>>528688138
>they don't even do high enough DPS to justify using them
These aren't Elden Ring daggers. They're nightreign daggers.

If you're using that relic they do good dps
Black knife does more damage per stamina spent over it's string (factoring in restage relic) than a buffed up Sword of Night and Flame.
>but it's hard to land finishers
The better you get at dodging, the easier that becomes.


On Wing of Astel, you don't even need to factor restage. They flat out does less dps period. It's slower, has substantially more animation commitment, and uses more stamina per swing.
I love Wing of Astel. For the weapon art.
I love SoNF. For the weapon art.
If you're R1ing with those weapons you're doing so at a substantial DPS loss.

There's only a handful of enemies where daggers reach is an actual problem; Ancestral Spirit, Demi-Human Queen (lmao), Erdtree avatar (from the front), and 3dog (from the front). Of those, only Ancestral spirit isn't instantly solved by two-handing your dagger and/OR dropping lock and looking slightly up.

>>528001052
>dagger damage
People are either vastly overestimate the damage their stars of ruin is doing or vastly underestimate the damage dagger with it's relics are doing.

>Just use Sword of Night and flame, astel, troll knight greatsword, etc etc
Unless that shit is a twinblade or starcourge greatswords no R1 in your arsenal is outdpsing your dagger solo. Those better weapons are there for their weapon arts and the 4 spells that do more damage with setup.

And if you're in a group and the other people are even halfway decent, no amount of damage you can do solo will surpass the damage you can contribute by restaging on ender.
Unless you invest heavily into a single magic school via relics. In which case yeah go right ahead and cast to your hearts content.

>>527781184
"something something why is duchess only using the legendary weapon for it's weapon art and swapping back to the grease buffed dagger"
~3.1 to 3.1 if you were wondering about time taken
Nebula does less damage too

IF you can dodge offset to land that final attack, you should be using your dagger.
If you can't then yeah use some other weapon I guess.

tfw the webm converter is literally for retards and I'm still too retarded to use it properly