>>64153988
Yeah they're kinda dumb. At the end of the day you're just buying an expensive 9mm pea shooter and putting a bunch of "force multipliers" on it to cope. Short barreled ARs are cheaper and more accessible than ever, and you can get a 7.62x39 AK with a 10" barrel and the same OAL as an MP5 for about $1k. The only reasons to bother with 9mm are weight and cost savings. Using something with an FRT as your CCW is just asking to get raped in court anyway. The only reason cops still like using 9mm subguns is because 9mm is cheap, easy to shoot, and politically correct.