>>96492622
You have no power here L Ruin! Begone Club-Shirt-Wearing-Tournament-Player! Back I say!

Like I said, both games are fine if you tune down the competitive side and just goofy off. I used to play Warmachine / Warmahordes in MK2 and MK3 and the game wasn't fun after a point due to how cutthroat it was. The terrain there was even worse! My group all has wives, I dont have kids yet so I'll host and have some friends over to game on my tables and shoot the shit. It's a lot of fun. I'm also becoming far more anti social since I'm not going to the FLGS or showing up at events.

Conventions are still great, I highly recommend. Just don't go to Adepticon only for the tournaments. Remember the hobby is mostly sitting in a room painting.