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>Italy in 1300 was NOT under the HRE,

Yes it was

> de facto chased out of Italy

de fact the Emperor had no real power to begin with that's why the HRE was so decentralized and hence soulful.

> The autonomy of Central and Northern Italian city states was achieved IN SPITE of the HRE

It was *because* of the HRE and the natural weakness of the state that smaller regions, cities, etc to flourish and this was enjoyed by all of the territories in the HRE not just northern Italy.