>Red canonically loses to Ethan/Lyra, Nate/Rosa, and Elio/Selene
>Cynthia loses to Lucas/Dawn, Hilbert/Hilda, Nate/Rosa, and Elio/Selene
>they still get wanked as being the strongest ever
Literal genwunners and zoomers who started with gen 1/4 are ruining this fanbase