>>534091993
>I woulda never guessed
Literally a constant occurrence on the narrow streets with nothing to hide behind, an important dynamic in how armor fights played out
>The 85 has the same hull armor
The same notorious black hole UFP with the addition of even bouncier turret cheeks. It amazes me the amount of people who talk about armor values as just a static measurement and totally discount sloping calculations that are just as important for how protection actually behaves
>could not pen the king tigers front armor even the non H version
Pic related. You are just wrong
>did get shit out luck with the starter tank
You are talking about the campaign for the brief time of its endstate with all the big cats present instead of the years of tank gameplay since its release in which the 85 was a serious powerhouse. the tiger 1 is easily killed by anything with an 85
>Berlin was pretty balanced tank wise
This statement contradicts your point that German armor eclipsed everything always after the P4J (which was still spawned nearly every game for years)
>the poor germans had a disadvantage
They did with their starter tank which is all I have said other than both 85s being extremely competent tanks until nearly the end of the campaign system