Thread 534052297

Operation August Storm Edition

Enlisted is the best squad-based World War II FPS currently, where you lead your squads of AI to their deaths, over and over. Sometimes, you come to /enlg/ to complain! Or on the forums if it's about muh Soviet bias.

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>Soviet vs Japan Event
https://forum.enlisted.net/en/t/even-fight-ussr-vs-japan/166375

>New Map Update "Forest Shadows"
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>Berlin open to all Battle Ratings
https://forum.enlisted.net/en/t/berlin-is-now-open-to-all-brs/166446

Ran out of tickets: >>532727375

>>533987141
>Thanks to whoever was the anon who mentioned you can call ammo crates while arty is being used by someone else.
Ammo crate drops are underutilized. If players actually utilized them you could have the map scattered with ammo crates. But rarely do I ever see more than one which is the one I call in.

Target Washington!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwC3lNN5YAY&list=RDlwC3lNN5YAY&start_radio=1

>>534053209
I started doing it to pass time while arty was being used and drop some ammo into contested zones, will also start using them with my APC squads since they can't have an engie

>>533980127
>>533981546
>>533982129
I typed up a 2000 character effort post to this that got black holed when the thread died and I am not going to bother to repeat it. Suffice it to say that Soviets get extremely competent options at every BR and even when they are outmatched it is against outrageously overperforming bullshit like the Panther and T2H

Soviets getting strong SMGs and AFVs is an absolute design decision and insisting otherwise is completely delusional

>"main" faction doesn't mean "most played"
Maybe lead you initial posts with the disclaimer that you are talking about some inane development narrative bullshit instead of what virtually everyone assumes main faction means
>As a result, people play them and stick with them for a while
You also imply you are talking about having "main" amount of players with statements like this that are also just not true

>>534065319
>moscow: T-34 and T-28 dominate
>stalingrad: KV-1 dominates
>berlin: T-34-85 dominates
>the legacy of this dynamic is still readily apparent in the BR system
not really controversial, germans had/have complementary stronger air & MG options. always been this way

>>534052297 (OP)
should we add "surprise manchuria addition" to the list of failed predictions?

>>534067034
Trust the plan

>>533965748
>game's community and the few YouTubers that exist are constantly, always talking about Soviet Bias or whatever
Every game developed by Eastern European devs is going to have those people that complain like that. I've come from other games and it was the same thing even over 10 years ago. You just learn to chuckle at them and ignore them. Those are the Wehraboos and Weeaboos, more so Wehraboos really, that just want to act out their epic power fantasies. They like playing games like Hearts of Iron and love imagining alternate history. But hey, at least they're passionate about the game and help draw interest and attention. Although it might not be the best kind for the game.

>>534072809
I dunno, I feel like the scott and M3 lee/grant are probably the best non-premium BR2 tanks

>>534072809
Shitting on the T70 for have "abyssmal gun handling" is funny when it is the only BR1 tank that doesn't have to make horrible tradeoffs for a good AT/AI cannon, MG, and protection and instead has all three. All BR1 tanks have poor gun handling anyway.
Soviet BR1 premium armor also consists of the best scout car in that BR and the longest range flamethrower in the game. The BT7 is functionally a BR1 puma that heavily rewards skilled players with map knowledge and this will be even more apparent as map boundaries continue to be reworked. The Soviets not having the terrible box armor layout nearly all German tanks suffer from is an innumerable advantage that permeates the entire tree.
>>534073968
Until very recently the only M3 was Soviet. Arguably the 3 MGs on the T-28 results in more effective firepower than having an extra 37mm slapped on a clunky 75 with few shells

>>534075012
I wouldn't really say very recently since the grant was added in tunisia

>>534075598
Whichever variant has the double MGs was only available to the Soviets until a few patches ago

>>534073968
The Scott is worse than the German short 75, Ho-I, and T-28. The exposed crew and ultra exposed commander do it no favors.

>>534066752
Man the P4J/3485 match up was so perverse. The 85 punched way above it's weight with the Panther too because many German players never figured out they had to shoot the turret ring and it felt like there was a constant stream of 85s to deal with

T-34 (1941) to BR2
KV-2 to BR3
Premium/Event T-34E when?

StG-45M and Luftfaust to BR3

>>534077759
bro what? the panther rapes the t-34-85. Its front armor cant be penned by its gun so you have a major fucking advantage. The panther was also unlocked at level 12 which is extremely early and german tanks later down the line rape the soviets harder with the Tiger I and II than the T-34 D5T vs panzer IV J ever did

>>534078698
Can BR2 touch the KV-2 at all?

Which one of you was this?!

>>534087384
The long 50s and Marder can kill the downtiered KV-1, can’t it?

>>534088160
Yeah that’s my picture, I’m thewildcard2

>>534089731
the BR3 KV-1 is the 1939 one with only 75mm of front armor and the L-11 gun that has only about 70ish armor pen. BR4 one is the 1941 upgraded one with the ZIS and improved armor.

>>534083442
The Panther had an advantage in 1v1 but the way Berlin was set up it would lose any 2 on 1 fight and the 34s armor is nearly as trolly outside of the aforementioned weak spot. The 85 easily one taps a sliver of an exposed side and could frontally confront both tigers until the H showed up and nothing even compares to the absolute rape the 85 dishes out on any P4, most of all the ever present J. I ground the entirety of both sides tanking in Berlin the Panther was not some doomsday weapon trading was both frequent and inevitable

>>534089731
>>534090176
oh also heres roughly the armor pen of german BR2

Puma: 100mm
PZ3 J1: 100mm
Marder: 150mm
GRB: 80mm

KV-1 front armor: 75mm
KV-1 ZIS front armor: 90mm
not sure what the KV-2s front armor is

>>534083124
>Soviet early war equipment artificially pushed back to to cater to wehroids
>Wehroids cope by demanding their desperate fantasy garbage gets brought to early war

>>534091110
woah a tank loses a fucking 2v1? I woulda never guessed also what kind of shit are you smoking? The 85 has the same hull armor as regular T-34s and its turret armor did not do as much as you claim. It also could not pen the king tigers front armor even the non H version and the Tiger 1 and 2 are better than the IS 1 and 2 so while germans did get shit out luck with the starter tank which could still 1 tap the 85 every tank after that was just better than the soviet one.

Berlin was pretty balanced tank wise outside of the IS-2 sucking dick and that was basically only cause of its reload speed so dont go saying the poor germans had a disadvantage when tanks were arguably in their favor

>>534091993
>I woulda never guessed
Literally a constant occurrence on the narrow streets with nothing to hide behind, an important dynamic in how armor fights played out
>The 85 has the same hull armor
The same notorious black hole UFP with the addition of even bouncier turret cheeks. It amazes me the amount of people who talk about armor values as just a static measurement and totally discount sloping calculations that are just as important for how protection actually behaves
>could not pen the king tigers front armor even the non H version
Pic related. You are just wrong
>did get shit out luck with the starter tank
You are talking about the campaign for the brief time of its endstate with all the big cats present instead of the years of tank gameplay since its release in which the 85 was a serious powerhouse. the tiger 1 is easily killed by anything with an 85
>Berlin was pretty balanced tank wise
This statement contradicts your point that German armor eclipsed everything always after the P4J (which was still spawned nearly every game for years)
>the poor germans had a disadvantage
They did with their starter tank which is all I have said other than both 85s being extremely competent tanks until nearly the end of the campaign system

>>534091396
KV-2 has the same frontal protection as the KV-1

>>534094525
there is no reason for it to be BR4 unless they un-cut its shells

>>534066752
Why is the D-5 BR2?

>>534096432
They only looked at the bomb loads and not which one was the late war model with x1000 20mm rounds

Is the M-3 Medium any good?

>>534065319
>>534066752
>Soviets getting strong SMGs and AFVs is an absolute design decision and insisting otherwise is completely delusional
You are thinking of the KV-1, sorry.

>BR I
Garbage options, easily the worst in the game. No, you getting fucked by the T-60 in Moscow 4 years ago doesn't mean it is good now.

>BR II
Totally mediocre. The T-28E is lesser than the Panzer IV E, the T-50 is maybe equal to (let's be real, lesser than) the Panzer III J1.

>BR III
The KV-I is overpowered, on paper, if it gets down-tiered into a team that doesn't have any HEAT slingers, or long 50s, or long 75 mm guns. In a practical sense, it can be blown up, in one shot, at any range by its most common BR III contemporaries. The T-34 basically goes unused nowadays.

>BR IV
The T-34 85s are overtly worse than the Panthers and the Tiger. The IS-1 is basically a Tiger that can't angle and has far worse gun depression. Nobody uses the KV-2 outside of memes.

>BR V
The IS-2 is a meme. That's it. It's shit. Anything you can do in the IS-2 can be one faster and with more effectiveness in, dare I say, ANY other BR V tank. Including the Tiger E.

People who insist Soviet tanks are good are just suffering PTSD from the campaign system.

>>534101231
the amount of 20mm is insane and shreds anything it can draw a bead on
>>534101342
yes, if only for the double coaxial + cupola MG. a large amount of the limited 75mm stowage is wasted on smoke shells though

>>534101342
It should be, the Grant is a fine BR II tank

>>534101585
>Shitting on the T70 for have "abyssmal gun handling" is funny when it is the only BR1 tank that doesn't have to make horrible tradeoffs for a good AT/AI cannon, MG, and protection and instead has all three
??????? The Panzer III J and Stuart have better gun handling, equal armour, and equal guns? At the same BR? (Well, not the Stuart, but let's be real, the main umbrage anybody takes is with German tanks versus Soviet ones, nobody gives a fuck about the Americans). Unless you are going to tell me a 50mm is somehow worse than a 45mm? And they also have far, far, far better traverse, and better magnification, and better suspension, and bigger crews? The T-70's gun flies around like fucking crazy when you come to a stop, and it has TWO CREW. Are we even thinking of the same tank in the same BR bracket? The sole thing the T-70 has going for it is the sloped front armour. That's not even taking into account how fucking short and squad the T-70 is, making it agonising to use with ANY rubble in its way.

>Soviet BR1 premium armor also consists of the best scout car in that BR and the longest range flamethrower in the game.
The BA-11 is shit. You know it's shit. Don't be disingenuous. Nobody buys it, nobody uses it, because it's shit in Enlisted and shit in War Thunder. It's slow and has no armour. The Soviet flamethrower tank is also notoriously shit compared to... wow, the German flamethrower tank, which is notoriously strong to the point where metafags use it at TOP TIER to RUSH POINTS.

>The BT7 is functionally a BR1 puma that heavily rewards skilled players with map knowledge and this will be even more apparent as map boundaries continue to be reworked
Wow, you can drive in a straight line, with no armour... REALLY FAST! That'll be useful if the enemy team has no tanks, or players with AT rifles, or anything, really, and just lets you drive around in circles shooting them.

This is absolutely insane, unbridled delusion.

why does the alecto made wheeled vehicle noises

>>534101585
>BR1
Best flanker tank in the BR with the BT-7, best general purpose tank with the T-70, only flame tank that can wipe 2nd story buildings with the flame T-26, only armored car with a large for its bracket cannon and a coaxial MG with the BA-11
>BR2
T-50 is indisputable the best brawler tank in the BR now that the P3N has been moved up. Highest firepower tanks with the multi MG T-28s and M3 Medium. Event BT-7 is by far and away the best glass cannon in the bracket.
>BR3
The KV-1 is the King Tiger of its BR. Talking about how overtuned infantry AT is does not negate just having outright superior performance to its adversaries. Back up spawn T-34 STZ that is nearly as strong. The clearly dominant armor in this bracket and no amount of coping with change that objective reality.
>BR4
The T-34-85 is a a supremely competent and lethal tank capable of one taping everything it sees, and like the other T-34s can be run in tandem in a line up. The IS-1 is a 34-85+ and would be comparable to the Panther if the latters mantle wasn't totally busted. The KV-2 is the only other tank that can frontally kill a T2H and therefore has demonstrable utility. The 76 Sherman they also get rounds out this BRs armor assortment as being extremely flexible.
>BR5
Two IS-2s in tandem is still a powerful combination and they are frequently seen at top tier exerting comparable influence to the tigers (greyzone camping). The exceptional performance of the T2H is just that, an exception. I wonder how you will cope when the IS-3 is inevitably added and the overall trend of Soviet armor strength is completed.

>>534102786
Every criticism in this post is just a skill issue and willful denial of the shortcomings of non-Soviet tanks. The 37mm is absolutely worse at killing infantry and tanks than the 45mm so I have no idea why you would even bring that up. Its hilarious to shit on the T-70s gun handling while lionizing the same on the suicide inducing slew rate on the P3J. The German tank is also a fat slow target far more generally vulnerable than the Soviet equivalent.
>This is absolutely insane, unbridled delusion.
That would be the blind refusal to acknowledge that powerful armor is literally baked into the balance of Soviet equipment as a clear design intention of the developers. You are just wrong about this. You'll have a point when the Germans inevitably receive their captured KVs

>>534093857
No less contradictory than your retarded statement of the panther is a good tank and better than thw T-34-85 except it sucks dick compared to the T-34-85 because it loses in 2v1s like germany cant spawn 2 tanks at once too.

Berlin was one of the few campaigns where basically every tank can get blown up in 1 shot by almost any tank aside from the starter tanks vs the very endgame tanks and it was almost entirely down to tanker skill. And your dumbass is unironically complaining that germany had weak tanks because the Panzer IV J is worse than the T-34-85 D5T (which has worse turret armor and a worse gun than the actual T-34-85) when the Panther is an upgrade to the T-34-85 with a better gun and a completely immune frontal plate not just sometimes black holing a shot in a specific area, the Tiger 1 is a better IS-1 and the Tiger 2 is better than the IS-2.

FYI you are an absolute retard who never played berlin because the panther was very commonly used and was at rank 12 making it unlocked before you even got sniper IIs or assaulter IIs.

>>534104169
>Best flanker tank in the BR with the BT-7
Imagine if Ensharted had maps where you could flank!

>best general purpose tank with the T-70
High-level delusion. It's worse in every way compared to the J besides having sloped front armour, and the J... can just angle slightly to achieve the same effect. It is worse in EVERY OTHER CAPACITY.

>only flame tank that can wipe 2nd story buildings with the flame T-26
Cool, nobody does this since most battles take place at ground level, the German flame tank is better and shits out more damage.

>only armored car with a large for its bracket cannon and a coaxial MG with the BA-11
"The only gay in the village".

>T-50 is indisputable the best brawler tank in the BR now that the P3N has been moved up
It can be one-shot through the front by the Panzer IV E at any range, without even changing ammo type.

>Highest firepower tanks with the multi MG T-28
I'd, uh, rather shit out an extremely powerful HEAT shell every 2 seconds and wipe the whole point, thanks.

>The KV-1 is the King Tiger of its BR
Nigger it has 75mm of armour.

>Back up spawn T-34 STZ that is nearly as strong
Which nobody has, and can be one-shot by the Panzer III N and IV J easily?

Dawg I don't know what crack you are smoking to believe ANY of this shit.

>>534104346
>Its hilarious to shit on the T-70s gun handling while lionizing the same on the suicide inducing slew rate on the P3J.
... wow, you uh... you are just not super bright.

Anon-san.

The Panzer III J slews at 2.5x the speed of the T-70. 14 degrees per second versus 6. That's... kind of huge.

I don't know if I can go on like this.

You clearly don't know... anything, really. I don't know if I should dignify this.

>The German tank is also a fat slow target far more generally vulnerable than the Soviet equivalent.
And it can also, you know, see over rubble, and the gun doesn't bounce like Michael J Fox on twenty Red Bulls, and it has actual backup crew, and... you know. Everything else.

>>534104845
I also want to mention that the III J has nearly identical power-to-weight as the T-70 and also has a way better suspension, top speed and reverse. "Fat slob" lmao.

>>534104536
So your retarded argument is that Germans outmatched the Soviets in Berlin but that the balance was still pretty good? Are you disabled? My contention that the 34-85 actually serves your position but you are too much of a quarrelsome retard to see that.
>absolute retard
That would be the one of us flat out making incorrect claims about the capability of the 85mm cannon.
Balance was good solely because the T-34-85 was so strong, anything else is coping.
>>534104845
The J is far less maneuverable than the T-70, a smaller target, and harder to kill having a dissimilar internal layout unlike every panzer that are all killable by hitting the same exact weak points
>nobody does this
Wiping 2nd stories is as useful now as it was in the heyday of Stalingrad
>"The only gay in the village".
Non-argument. Why are you seething so much about this.
>Panzer IV E
Extremely vulnerable, so much so that they had to give it HEAT to make it worth using
>rather shit out an extremely powerful HEAT shell
Cool, wasn't an option until very recently and 3x MG utility is undeniable, on top of having a comparable HE shell for point wiping
>75mm of armour
And yet it still exerts a similar effect on the battlefield, a statement only controversial to the mentally lame
>Which nobody has
Very common sight, I don't know why you seem to think the ability to be killed somehow invalidates strong relative performance.
The T-70 maneuvers better than the 3J, and is harder to kill with its sloped armor and again, low profile.
>I don't know if I should dignify this.
It's bizarre to me how emotional you are in this reply, How can you pretend to know anything about armor balance and not recognize the clear developer intentions with the Soviet faction. Nit pick all you want about BR1 edge cases but the trend is obviously there for all to see.

Does the soviet arisaka engineer squad get any more slots or is it only just 4 engineers?

>>534106226
>a smaller target
*which is a
>>534105032
The 3J sucks cock and isn't fun to use, and in my experience is less survivable and capable of trading shots than the Soviet equivalent. Feel free to be this butthurt about it I guess.
>>534106263
4 plus 1 AT

The shitty metal box armor layout on every panzer means they all get instadeleted by anything Soviet with enough penetration.

Meanwhile, Soviet armor has the most sloping of any faction giving the highest bounce % which results in far more survivability in tank vs. tank engagements in this game as much as it does in Warthunder. Incontrovertibly so.

>>534106389
The J has like ten advantages over the T-70, which ONLY has sloped front armour going for it. That's it. Nothing else. I would much rather use it over the T-70 unless, somehow, I know I have a hyper-competent team and know I can sit in a corner being a pillbox in the T-70.

>>534106931
Angle. Turn your hull like 15 degrees. Bam. Bounce chance. Not only that, the "le t-34 armour meme" hasn't been true in... Eight years? Ten, maybe?

Also, the IS-3 will be shit. The pike armour design is worthless against Panzerfausts, the reload is shit, the gun depression is shit, the shells will be "cutted". The only thing it will be good for is, in theory, killing Tiger IIs by shooting them in the turret every 22 seconds... But the Tiger II can also frontally pen the IS-3 through the driver's port, an equally small and obnoxious weak spot as the Tiger II's turret face.

>>534106263
Do not be fooled, it's the Arisaka Carbine and not the Rifle! Many men have made this mistake!

>>534103314
theres wheels in there somewhere

>>534101594
>>534101601
Okay I played a couple matches with it. It's an interesting tank to use, if not finicky.

Basically I just used the gunner with the 37mm+coax for anti-infantry purposes and then would pop to the other gunner to use the 75mm against tanks. Even though the SAPHEI the 37mm uses is trash against infantry. It only has 2.31 meter fragmentation radius. You have to aim at soldiers and hit soldiers directly to clear a couple of them that are together. I checked and the 37mm AP actually has decent penetration but has no explosive mass and does little damage so you still probably want to use the 75mm. The AP solid shot is tricky. It's not like APHE so you have to aim for the engine or ammo racks. You shouldn't expect to auto pop tanks with it. The two mgs from commander control is nice but the commander can't zoom in. So against tanks I find it better to go to the 75mm gunner's view to zoom in and get a better reticle than the more ambiguous circle reticle. I found it was too annoying to try to use the 75mm gunner for the better HE shells because first of all he doesn't have a coaxial mg and you have to micromanage to remember to leave him loaded on AP in case a tank appears later, if you want to switch to the commander or other gunner to use the mgs. You don't want to switch back to the 75mm gunner to see him loaded with HE. At least it reloads fast. Also cycling through the different ammo combinations to get to the combination you want is funny.

I like the default army green camo it comes with. Oh and it has a top reverse speed of only 5 Km/h lol. You have to be extra vigilant for incoming planes and flankers. The 7-man crew is nice since you can eat some shots and still have enough crew to man the tank.

>>534107469
OK man, you can prefer the P3J. That doesn't make the T-70 a bad tank.
> sit in a corner being a pillbox
Which is how most people use armor to the greatest effect in this game, making my point for me here.
>Angle
You don't get to cite "nobody having" certain equipment as an argument and then use angling as an argument, which effectively no one does. I think I may have encountered one German tanker intentionally angling his armor in years of playing this game. Angling also does nothing on tanks like the P4E which just suck in glancing shells. The drivers hatch on the T-34 still eats shells nowhere near it to this day. The rest of the armor is perfectly capable of bouncing shots that otherwise read as green in the stupid indicator.
>>534107469
>the IS-3 will be shit
Just as likely to result in an absolute typhoon of hysterical German wailing and gnashing of teeth as it is to succumb to any potential downsides you listed. It remains to be seen, but I doubt it will be weak and never used.

>>534106389
>4 plus 1 AT
Okay thanks, better than just the 4 engineers. It's nice the PTRS-41 was moved down to BR1.
>>534107469
The Arisaka Carbine isn't too much worse than the Rifle, is it?

>>534108551
There's a severe difference between people not having equipment which they can never access again, versus people not holding the A or D key for 2 seconds because they are stupid.

>>534108872
the carbine has a lower firerate than the normal 38 and is pretty meh, but if nothing else adds variety to a BR1 lineup. the real appeal is the engis getting vitality and enough mobility points for sprint and 1 increment of run speed

>>534108914
OK, sub in the STZ in the previous comment for the more armored T-34-57 then. Happy?

>>534109249
Not really, the 57 has a really pathetic HE and like 8mm more turret armour, doesn't it?

>>534109703
Double the hull armor. The 1941 isn't as good as the STZ either but is also an extremely viable tank. The normal T-34 should go to BR2 now that the Germans have 75mm HEAT so readily available. But Rossyia suffers.

>>534108324
make sure you bind switching shell types to different keys because the 37 gets 2 shells and the 75 gets 3 and it will quickly become impossible to switch to the right type on both cannons. you are better off learning to use everything the tank offers from the commander slot and only switching to the 75 gunner when you absolutely need to make a precise shot

>>534110764
I'm looking at the wiki page on War Thunder and it says it has 45mm of hull armour still?

>>534112993
STZ and Panzer III/IV stalingrads have extra bolted on armor so they technically have the same front armor but with extra plates that give them more armor. Samething with the Jumbo having plates and the pershing vs the super pershing with welded on plates

>>534112993
>Hull Armor (mm): Front, 99
From the in game tech tree statcard

>>534106226
Uh yeah? The balance was spot on because the differences in tanks were minor and almost any tank could get a kill on the other if you were skilled enough but german tanks and mgs were generally superior to the soviet ones which was made up for by the soviets having generally better aircraft and smgs, its called asymmetrical balance and every campaign had it, like normandy where german tanks were better than american ones but the USA had better aircraft.

Compare this to you saying the PZ4 J was absolute irredeemable dogshit that could never ever win a fight vs a D5T 85 and that the T-34-85 eternally raped everything in berlin with no counter thanks to its stalinium blackhole armor. Even though the Panther had a front plate that was immune to the 85mm cannon and was equipped with a stronger cannon and the Tiger 1 also again had a stronger gun than its equal the IS-1 and the King Tiger both variants were basically a whole step up above both IS-2s.

>>534102786
>>534104169
>>534104845
the BA11 is a lot better than the AB41 and the daimler. ive actually seen them a decent amount since the paypig packs were added, dont know if ppl are buying or just testing though. I think there was some newfag last thread that bought it and I use it in my BR1 lineup fwiw. its just the right height to hull down behind the ubiquitous pile of logs on moscow maps and is more than capable of shutting down an approach with its mg and cannon

>>534114603
You need to work on your reading comprehension. Every post you've made is internally contradictory.
>you saying the PZ4 J was absolute irredeemable dogshit that could never ever win a fight vs a D5T 85 and that the T-34-85 eternally raped everything in berlin with no counter
Never said either of those things lmao.
I said:
>the P4J/3485 match up was so perverse
>nothing even compares to the absolute rape the 85 dishes out on any P4
>the german starter tank was at a disadvantage
I'm not surprised you can't follow my arguments seeing as you can't even follow your own, in your own posts. You have totally misconstrued my qualified statements about the T-34-85 being a capable tank into some ridiculous strawman apparently living in your head.
The 85s viability against the broken Panther is a testament to what I am saying. Meanwhile you are STILL insisting in each post that the Panther and Tigers brutally outclassed everything Soviet while also insisting that gameplay was balanced because everything could kill each other. Do you see the contradiction?

>>534113280
I am almost certain that is wrong. The M5A1 card says it has 63mm or something.

>>534116248
anyone who thinks the D5T and IVJ were on equal footing absolutely never played the old berlin campaign lol. it was just lemming players acting as feeder for soviet guns. even worse when they would repeatedly spawn only to immediately die and make an obstacle course should you need to spawn something worthwhile. the bridge cap was hands down the worst for this

>>534117298
lying on the statcard isnt exactly unprecedented

I like the t3485

I am determined to git gud with the narwhal but it really struggles with the IS-2, even in a top attack.
am I missing something or is it just dogshit? ( I know its dogshit) it barely even sets engine fires

>>534119247
Being able to change ammo load on the fly before spawning is a necessity if that thing is ever going to become useful

>>534119727
but that may as well never happen! I dont need it to be good, just viable. I am wondering if there is a hard limitation on the AP shell vs the IS-2. wiki shows 50-60mm of pen at a 1 km with either of the AP shells, which should be able to do something against the 30mm of roof armor. I wonder if its bugged or I am just profoundly unlucky after repeatedly strafing two greyzone ISs for 30 min just now

>>534116248
Wanna know why I'm saying both that german tanks are better and that the campaign is well balanced? compare this shit to normandy and youll fucking see why I say its pretty balanced even just tank wise because a 76mm sherman going up against a fucking Tiger 1 is possibly the biggest joke this game has ever pulled and a much worse off matchup than the IS-1 fighting it especially given that the germans also outclassed the USA in like every catagory except planes unlike berlin where the soviets get some better infantry gear too in addition to the planes. So yeah the IS-1 and 2 are worse off but godamn is the IS-1 just only having a worse cannon than the Tiger 1 or the IS-2 having a slow load speed much better than that shit.

And you seem convinced that because 1 tank match up was favored against the soviets it made the entire campaign a soviet stomp even though technically the germans had the advantages in most tanks. You also literally said And what kind of stupid logic is that anyway? The T-34-85 is OP because it wasn't completely worthless vs the panther? The Panzer IV J could pen the IS-2s turret but that doesn't make it super OP and getting 1 shots against D5Ts was fucking easy with the J much easier than fight the Panther with the real 85, im convinced you just shoot at bad angles or some shit.

>>534120614
Dude I never said it was a Soviet stomp or that the T-34-85 was OP. What the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you inventing an argument? This whole thing started because you were reacting to me saying it could go toe to toe with the Panther.
The entire nexus of this conversation was that the often entirely discounted tank was actually good despite being overshadowed by the Panther. The 4J was outclassed because it actually had to aim using it's awful traverse to kill the 34 and this wasn't the case in the inverse. I never said it was undeadable and it is easily understood the J was at a huge disadvantage in this match up.

>>534117838
I think that's the effective armour, if it had 99mm of sloped armour, it would be stronger than the Panther. I am certain the T-34-57 has a normal hull.

>>534111282
>bind switching shell types to different keys because the 37 gets 2 shells and the 75 gets 3 and it will quickly become impossible to switch to the right type on both cannons
I didn't know you could do this. I'll look into it, thanks

Why do cut shells still persist. At least standardize the reload times

>>534134060
"""Balance""" I'm sure but I don't think they've ever been officially acknowledged, just sourced in data mines. The reloads are based on their IRL performance but who know how that works when there is an arbitrary % reduction perk. Either way the IS2 either had two piece ammo or just a long shell in a tight space, I don't remember which, which is why the reload is so long.

>>534067731
>Trust the plan
Soviet Tech Tree Airacobra comes with Manchuquo

>>534126909
probably but no one knows for sure because no one has ever used it over the KV
>>534128362
set secondary cannon to MMB too

>tankcels arguing about the length of their guns and slope of their tracks
>infantryGODS simply chuck bombs on their roof
goes to show the most effective tactic armoroids can muster is sitting 300 meters away in the greyzone. Sad!

>>534135270
The reload times are all based on Ace Crew reload times in Warthunder, then we can get even faster with the perks

>>534140125
Good luck doing that to the KV.

It IS only 45mm. The stat card is wrong, I knew I wasn't crazy.

>>534148687
Also only vaguely related but did you know the M5A1 "Rhino" gets ammo that is slightly better than the regular M5A1? 8mm of better pen and slightly better angled pen across the board, and it's APHE, which makes the Rhino extremely strong at BR I.

>>534149480
Scratch that, it's not APHE, it just has an APHE icon.

>>534148687
>effective 73mm
So where does the 99 come from

>>534150198
The joining plate on the transmission housing is 93mm. Besides that, I have no clue.

>>534150516
In the WT viewer you can get 99 effective if you aim at the ufp from near ground level lol

>Finish all my daily tasks
>Realise the new BP is in 4 hours
I'm going to get some new tasks for the fresh BP right ? Right ?

>>534156915
Yeah.

>>534149480
Apparently the Jap Tiger has like 3% more pen than the regular one

>No event

Ded

What's the best BR IV tank for each faction?

>>534174154
IS-1
Tiger E/Panther G
Jumbo/M18
Can’t recall the Jap ones

>>534176669
>Tiger E
is BRV

>>534177037
The H1, I mean. I thought the H being later was the better one. Was it just late war cost cutting?

>>534182229
>Tiger H1 (Sd.Kfz. 181 – Panzerkampfwagen VI H1)
>"H" stood for Henschel, the company that manufactured the tank.
>Early production version of the Tiger I.
>Designation used in early 1942 as the tank was being tested and entering initial production.
>Featured things like the drum-type commander's cupola, rubber-rimmed road wheels, and early air filter systems.
t. chatgpt

>>534185508
Ah, I thought they were just alphabetized variants like the Pz. IVs

>>534193534
NTA but me too. what a mess of designations!

>>534195163
At least it's not the M1 I guess

Komet

I don't have enough spare troopers at BR3 for all the nip RMNs
And giving them to AT troopers feels like a huge waste with only half the ammo capacity
What to do

>>534209794
Buy more troops/reorganize squad configurations

>>534135737
Did the P39 have hard points for bombs like the P63?

>>534209875
I have lineups for every BR with the nips so not many spare squads to build out that arent sniper/artillery squads, not much space for them in the BR3 lineup either

Pulling gunners out of my APC/LMG squad feels dumb and ditto for the assaulter squad. Might just throw two in at BR5 replacing one auto hei guy in each trooper squad

Most of my AT guys at BR3 have hinos anyway so it might not be the worst with 6 rounds as a secondary instead of the usual 11

>>534210003
and rocket pods!

>>534210760
Two of my LMG squads are at BR3, so two of mine will go there. I guess I could just put an extra one with the Hino AT troopers. I'd happily stick two in an APC but my APCs are BR2 and 5.

>>534211651
With the Soviets I've got two RMNs in 3 and 1 in 4 and 5. I'll probably do 2 each at 3 and 5. Stuffing them all in one BR is pretty unnecessary unless you are a subhuman animal that plays dirty. Definitely staying away from mutt BR3 for the next few weeks regardless

>>534212828
My Soviets have 3 in 3 (2 on a flamethrower squad and 1 on a DPM squad) and I think the 4th is just unused. Though unlike the Panzerfaust I might be willing to give up some Jap AT for funny mortar lobbers

>>534210787
I thought Soviet doctrine with those planes was air suppression

The black-clad Soviet Marine premium squad wields PPSh-41s? But don't they carry 7.62mm bandoliers intended for the SVT rifles they used disproportionate amounts of in WW2?

booooo! where's my strike witches spaghetti plane

>>534217483
>SVT premium
Garbage

Maus

>>534217483
Obviously that's gonna be saved for a parkerized SVT naval infantry squad

The new Jap fighter is so good, it actually feels like the superior counter to jets than the Jap jet

>>534217673
its where your masculinity are self respect are
>gone

Schwerer Gustav

Just had someone wasting like 5 minutes trying to kill my detracted KV-1 with explosive packs until one of their teammates finally got me with a panzerfaust

>>534174154
T-34-85 for speed. IS-1 for armor but still speed. KV-2 for derping tanks and nuking infantry. Idk about the br4 KV-1

>>534261318
I'll admit I have not been lucky with EPs lately

>parafaggot and quadfaggot are the reason this game is full of fucking retards
you two need to stop making videos or go ruin another game. your opinions and advice are fucking retarded takes that are not based on reality. you both have gay fucking voices and are probably pedophiles.

>>534263119
The two of them genuinely don't know how the game works and misunderstand basic mechanics. I am genuinely shocked that Paradivision uses the PPS-43 with a backup PPS on his dual wielding Assaulters instead of an Uragan and a PPS for 2x the ammo.

>>534261708
You literally can’t kill KVs with explosive packs, best you can do is start an engine fire

>>534268846
Explosive packs have been overall feeling a bit funky lately from my experience. I wonder if they were stealth nerfed a few months back

>>534269823
This but for jet bombs
They ain't hitting like they used to

>>534269823
There are a few tanks who react funky to explosive packs.
It also happens if you cook them too much, and they blow up before hitting the ground right next to the tank

Shovel upgrades when?

I would love if we could build some small cover that could protect open top objectives from artillery strikes

Here's where I throw explosives on the KV, though in actual games with latency and movement it's pretty inconsistent.

>>534288885
KV's are really resistant against Explosive packs, I wonder if their hitbox is slightly different. All other tanks require nothing more than the pack landing in the middle of the tracks

>>534291669
Their ammo is located behind a fuel tank that will absorb the blast unless they drive directly on top of it. The turret ammo is easier to hit but it is the worst tank to fight without a panzerfaust.

why are like 80% of my games on defense, you lose 90% of the games because people refuse to play the point and you never get to do the BP capture objective task

>>534296168
because you are me and gaijin do this deliberately to trap you into playing longer

>>534296168
Always reroll capture strategic objective. BP tasks have two different categories, an easy task which is kill 8 people, play one game, play 12 minutes, etc. capture one objective is in this group but you can get cucked by getting defense, so the safe play is to always reroll it for guaranteed completions. One of your tasks will always be this way as well, so if you get down to 1 or 2 non-easy tasks, reroll one and it will become an easy task

Found out you can do this. I think it can work on friendly tanks as well if someone can test it.

>>534309129
Interesting

>>534303685
I'm going to start doing this. You can only complete the capture objective task in conquest, confrontation, assault and attacking side on invasion and destruction.

>Type 97 Rikuo Motorcycle doesn't have it's Type 11 Hopper Feed animated
Immersion ruined.

>set enemy plane on fire, clip its wing off, or force it into a tailspin
>"""friendly""" teammates stop everything they are doing to shoot at the flaming wreck and take my kill
>every single time without exception at least one person tries
I wish there were better ways to grief in this game, it doesnt really matter because im already awash in vehicle kills but it pisses me off when these retards try and take food out of my fucking mouth

>>534322807
Just ram your teammates' planes, happened to me yesterday and I didn't get any damage just spun a lot

the trajectory on the saka mortar is going to filter a lot of people

>>534332364
How heavy is the drop? Can you actually fire it like a mortar and arc over buildings?

>>534332906
Pretty big wave, I recognize 4 or 5 of them.

Komet

>>534334404
worse than the RMN and it seems slightly slower too, but not enough to use like an actual mortar

>>534343939
>actually has to chamber a new blank every round
This is hull machine guns all over again. When will these features make it back to the Soviets

>>534345992
the RMN is the same homie
rifle GLs used to too but they made them cartoon garbage because people complained they were useless

>>534343939
>Normal Knee Mortar round
>Using blank rounds to fire it

>>534348549
those are clearly not blanks

>>534349894
they should be, though
that's how all rifle-mounted grenade launchers are fired unless you want to explode yourself

>>534348549
Where does it say it's a normal mortar round

>>534353043
it's literally the type 89 mortar tied to an arisaka

>>534354054
I guarantee they weren't launching normal mortar rounds with an intact drop fuse out of a handheld rifle

>>534354278
Do you really think that would deter Japs?

>>534353043
I can see it's a fucking normal rounded mortar round.

>>534354546
Yes
>>534357127
No you can't the fuse is internal.

>>534348549
From Page 53 of "The Knee Mortars of Japan" by White and Strange:
"The Bougainville grenade discharger rifle"

In mid-1945 Australian troops captured seven improvised grenade launching rifles made by mating a Type 89 grenade launcher barrel and cut-off pedestal with a Type 38 6.5mm rifle with a shortened barrel. Humidity had affected the propellant charges in Type 89 shells, but the bursting charges and fuses were unaffected.

The shortened rifle barrel and shortened grenade discharger pedestal were welded together after a hole had been drilled into the cup of the discharger allowing the rifle barrel to protrude into the discharger barrel. T 89 shells with defective propellant charges had the defective charge removed and a hold drilled where the primer was normally. This allowed the end of the rifle barrel to protrude into the propellant cup. When the rifle was fired, with a blank or modified cartridge, the gases would force the copper band against the rifling imparting a gas tight seal much as the original propellant had done. The range of the weapon was reported as 30 yards to 300 yards."

Additional improvised launchers of varying design were found on New Guniea, New Britian, and in Burma. See the chapter on Improvised grenade launchers and rifles on p 199 in " Imperial Japanese Grenade rifles and launchers" by Babich and Keep.
>>534352553
maybe, but there are plenty of rifle grenade designs that allow live rounds, the french in particular prioritized that capability as early as WW1 with the VB. its not surprising devs havent bothered to model a blank though

>>534332906
>Merc still not banned yet

What will the ammo capacity on the German BP Fedorov be?

>>534387924
You mean total or mag size? It's apparently 15 round mags despite 20 and 25 also being potential options.

>>534388061
It looks like garbage, unfortunately. It can be saved by a 25 round mag, but it has super high recoil.

>>534391451
I'm not surprised it has super high recoil when every shot but the first is just direct blowback
which, I guess makes sense if you're trying to shoot at planes and you try to let the recoil lead the plane but maybe scotti was just retarded

>>534393132
It's weird that this gun in particular has high recoil when every other weapon in a similar calibre has no recoil. It also has a bad ROF apparently.

>>534393671
I mean, it makes sense, every other gun has some sort of gas system doing the work
this gun is just using the system pocket pistols use but for a fullsize rifle cartridge

>>534393671
The more I hear about it, the more I think it should just be BR4

I naively thought they learned from how unfun facing the RMN was that they would at least heavily limit more grenade launchers

>>534400406
> I naively thought they learned
lol

>>534332906
i knew timberwolf was a fucking cheat and good to see they got both accounts. skywang1 gone too good.
>>534376086
this

>>534393132
>you try to let the recoil lead the plane
more like it was meant to be fired from a mount and not free handed

Sniping with the Solothurn is such a good time. The 1887 and KoKo were basically redundant turds but the S1-100 is up there for BP rewards. Extremely powerful with a huge tradeoff.

>>534405434
They kill open topped vehicles, what more could you want? If they set engines on fire they'd be way too good at killing tanks with a lazy, low-effort drop.

>>534406023
The flames should linger longer on the ground, so that you can use it to cut off approaches.

I don't fly planes do to sucking at bombing. Does the drop tank do a anything to armour?

Is the crew forced out to extinguish the flames? If not, that would be a good trade-off

>Clicks one button
>Gets 30 kills and 1400 points
Git gud lmao.

>>534410826
The thing is that an engine burn is basically a guaranteed kill since the crew has to bail out to fix it, doubly so if the entire area around them is scorched. Napalm is "fine" now. Not GOOD, but "fine".

>>534412628
Also this. Luv me Solothurn.

>>534406023
>what more could you want?
I want 300 liters of burning fuel to choke the engine almost immediately and cook the crew alive if they don't exit after several seconds of being engulfed in burning accelerant. Dropping it on enclosed vehicles currently does nothing, which is both unrealistic and retarded.
>a lazy, low-effort drop.
Oh please, far more powerful payloads are widely available at BR3. Giving 2 (rare) planes a secondary munition that actually does something isn't going to break the game.

>>534410826
>Does the drop tank do a anything to armour?
No, which is why I'm bitching about it. It's very annoying to score a pinpoint hit on some camping faggots engine deck only for literally nothing to happen.

>>534412628
>Napalm is fine
It obviously isn't, so I'm certain you aren't actively trying to use it. No one is using these planes even after the minor buff. It's beyond parody that a 1 liter molotov is better at cooking a tank than a bullseye from a giant fire bomb

God forbid the uptiered zero with bomblets and the shit visibility no cannon hellcat with direct hit required munitions get an even slightly realistically performing payload instead of the afterthought it is now. Being opposed to this with 250 kgs being as common as they are now is just obstinance.

The G6 also needs it's 250 back, as it's just wasting away in BR4 for no reason as is

Manchuria Monday

Maus

>>534412628
I wish it was like War Thunder where planes can bomb artillery pieces

>>534412628
You would have time to drive out of the fire and then have the commander jump out to extinguish it the fire

Komet

I need some engineer class expansion, I am starving for more buildings, more guns, more useful stuff.

>>534446275
Building is fun but it's tedious because all constructables can be trivially destroyed. The way the landscape can be modified by shovels and craters is cool but I want stronger base building elements.

>we might get Manchuria or Kursk before the other side of Rhzev
Isn't it already half modeled? I don't see why darkflow doesn't take that path

Manchuria

I love my Kawaii Tiger

More like Kanker Tiger

is the panzerfaust better than the bazooka for soviets?

>>534466396
No

>>534466396
Yes

>>534466396
Yes. It’s not even close

>>534468363
Even at BR2?

>>534470496
The lowest Panzerfaust is BR3

I noticed that as soon as the mongols got the bazooka it suddenly became usable
that's odd

>>534477702
I always used it over the Panzerfaust 100

>>534466396
Has more than double the penetration of the bazooka so yes

>>534477702
Are you retarded? The bazooka was good before the Slavshits got it.

>>534504132
He was probably just dogshit and didn't know how to use it

>>534504132
He's talking about the Schreck

>>534470924
So the bazooka is better at BR2

>>534504629
Well if you use paras at BR2 and get uptiered to 3 you can get panzerfausts from the supply box.

what mutt br is currently playable they are not so hot at top tier rn

>>534504340
You literally just point and click. The sides of Germoid tanks are loaded with ammo. Dunno how someone could struggle with that.

>>534506778
Trying to shoot the front or engine repeatedly is a common noob behavior. There are definitely many who are shit with it

>>534510259
What was in it? Every pack is fucking garbage and full of stuff no reasonable person would buy, like the Arisaka carbine or EMP squad. Not to say the latter is a bad gun but the squad is terrible.

>>534511183
I wanted the M-3 Medium >>534101342

>>534511303
Not worth it for that price at all.

ONE MORE HAPPY CUSTOMER

>>534506237
BR3 is probably your best bet. But you’ll have a lot of inconsistent shit console teammates

>>534506237
>>534519203
Amerigroids are unplayable at every BR. Team skill goes Japanese > Germans > Americans > Soviets.

>>534521386
Soviet skill level is pretty high on Euro servers

>>534521386
>allies are unplayable
shitter detected

>>534521386
>>534522179
Soviets are pretty good at BR3 from my experience

>>534523421
>>534522179
>>534524064
I click Join Any and go with the flow, and my experience is that I lose most often as the Soviets and win 95% of the time as the Japanese and Germans. Soviet teams are basically only "good" at BR III, and that's because faggots stack there because the KV-1 and PPSh are so dominant. Even stacked Soviet teams can be like pulling fucking teeth.

Komet

>no event
it's over

>destroy someone in chat
>they want to add me as a friend after the battle
why? what makes them think i want to be their friend?

>"were going to make battle passes monthly so you'll get more!"
>make battle passes last longer than a month

>>534556854
>Complete BP in a week
Sigh...

>>534546241
there's a funny image

Need. event.

>>534580180
Manchuria Monday

>>534580180
Don't worry. On monday you'll get a new Thompson event

New special offer just dropped!
Iron Cross Legion, featuring:
>Orita M1941
>M/28 rifle
>Pz.III M
>Sniper Gewehr 41

>>534556854
Whiny faggot

>>534595704
Keofox...

>>534590848
You won't be earning an Iron Cross with any of those guns! Heh-heh!

>>534590848
I'm soo tempted bros. Orita is like the Retta++
And the G41 Sniper is also on my retard list.

>>534607021
>Orita is like the Retta++
What? It's an MP-40

>>534607021
>>And the G41 Sniper is also on my retard list.
Scoped semis are very strong

>>534616487
The G41 isn't

sex with SU-76M

>>534621305
The Soviets did nickname it "little bitch"

Damn, I just realized the Arisaka Mortar is going to be replacing my Hinos. I really like the Hino. I wish I had another riflemen squad I could put here.

Oh man aiming this mortar fucking sucks, it feels like the default zero setting needs to be moved up by several notches. Also a little disappointed it doesn't seem like it works on any tanks. I wasn't hoping for much, but I was kind of surprised I couldn't even damage the engine on an M2A4 with it. But maybe having to look 3 feet above the tank and not see where I'm hitting is contributing to that.

>>534626758
the rmn doesnt do anything to vehicles either
>default zero
huh? there isnt even a real sight picture to work with

>>534630697
Well I did kill a studebaker with it. And by zero I just mean when you page up or down to adjust the zero, I never do it so I don't know how many weapons have it, but it needs to be adjusted so it's partially angled by default.

>>534631201
theres nothing to angle with as it doesnt have a front sight. its an improvised hand held mortar the "zero" comes from trial and error not from anything adjustable on the weapon

>>534617662
Why not

>Wanna play Enlisted
>Have to do grocery shopping and meal prep
Fuck...

>>534616487
No they aren't retard lmao. Snipers are strongest at BR1 and yet are so bad youre actively hurting your team by using them. Semi snipers are especially awful with the premiums being among the absolute worst in the game. The only snipers that are viable outside of BR1 are the #4T and the three auto snipers. Everything else is trash making your team lose and you a faggot for using them

amazing there are /enlg/ posters that still labor under the illusion that snipers should be used at all

"Kills with special weapons" are some of my favourite tasks because they give me an excuse to bust out the event anti-tank rifles at BR I and use them as gigantic mega snipers.

>>534646396
>>534652569
And autosnipers are extremely situational, too, basically serving the same purpose as machine guns (holding a long angle) but with more precision but less total firepower. The scoped FG 42 II is great for this, but also means you are swapping out a valuable squad for a sniper squad, or a valuable squad member for a sniper.

>>534652680
>kill x airplanes
>break out solothurn in BR2
>murder low and slow flying shitboxes
tee hee x3

>>534653810
You can take it to BR I and pop Seagulls out of the air.

>>534653902
that's just unsportsmanlike behavior

>>534654348
It's also very funny.

>>534652680
I should do that next time, it's really easy against an enemy spamming tanks but I always end up cucked with matches that are entirely infantry while I have the challenge.

Holy fuck I hate Stalingrad so much. It's impressive that you can scale so much of the environment but fuck that also encourages people to just jerk off in random apartments.

if only this game had destructible environments

>>534679021
It already does. It's just the buildings can't be destroyed because that would be AIDS when trying to cap a point that turned into a wide open space.

>>534646396
>>534652569
Skill issue. If you have good aim and positioning, you can create strong map control and lock down an area with snipers.

>>534685095
Except one wooden building on one cap on Gavutu for some reason.

>>534694485
Pure fantasy while your team loses the point

>>534622484
What do you mean? Why would 2 grenade launchers completely supplant 2 rifles in your lineup?

>>534703083
Made a mistake, the guys that got arisakas had hinos. Still somewhat limiting because engineers don’t really have the right stats for Hinos

>>534703895
>engineers don’t really have the right stats for Hinos
Yes they do

>>534704932
I like horizontal on it, and that doesn’t leave any extra for turn or swap speed

>>534694485
Nigga you can do this 3x as well with an MG.

>>534721276
MGs you have to mount. Snipers you can hold sneaky angles and give narrow peeks.

>>534725013
The tradeoff isn't really worth it. An MG can wipe an entire squad in one second, a bolt-action sniper needs at least a full reload to wipe an average sized squad, and a semi-auto will need 2-3 shots per guy if you are unlucky. Snipers are just an annoyance. I have never played a match and thought "if only that sniper hadn't been there!", they tend to just make me roll my eyes and go "uh huh" when they pop 2 of my guys but I break into the point and wipe everybody on it.

Snipers are just an awful class and need to be reworked or unlocked later in the progression. The hyper-majority of players are not using them to their full extent (as limited as that may be) and are, in fact, making the game worse for themselves and others by using them. Kinda like mortar squads, which are tediously boring to play as and against, but at least they are absurdly meta on certain maps/caps.

Do you think Germany has the best potential BR I loadout of all the factions?

>Boys ATR is borderline unusable
>M50 has janky horizontal recoil and bad sights
>M3 Grease Gun is just bad with an awful TTK
>Sten has terrible accuracy and low damage
>Enfield P14 is redundant and also kind of bad
>American BR I tanks are mostly turds besides the M5A1, which has terrible SAPHEI but pretty good armour and mobility
>The Ithaca 37
>Truly terrible bombers/planes (the Hurricane is... fine?)
Pretty much all American BR I has going for it is that their starting rifle is arguably the best in class in terms of raw stats, and that's not saying much.

>>534726840
They have the most and best weapons, especially if you have the S18-100, plus competent tanks and planes. The Beretta M38 is kind of absurdly good for a BR I gun, despite its mag size, which is remedied by taking reload speed on an Ass IV.

>>534727037
The M1903A3 is a strong sniper and the M1903A1 USMC is good. Well, the latter is roughly equivalent to the Kar 98k and the former is 5% better than the Kar 98 Sniper with a scope that is extremely powerful on paper but, in-game, is barely noticeable, and bolt actions don't force wins the way SMGs do. American BR I teams are kind of carried by the M1903 reserve rifle being strong and widespread, kind of opposite to BR I Soviet teams being fucked by how truly abysmal the M1907 is.

>>534726840
Pretty sure Soviets win that with their decent all round lineup and body armor.
But Allies are my favorite with the SAS and Moroccans. Germany is fun too with the Volkssturm and Shitalian Marines.

>>534727037
Oh right I forgot that Japs have swords and the best BR1 rifle. Shame all my riflemen squads are tied up in BR5

>>534730130
Body armour is the cinching factor for the Soviets, because it REALLY fucks up the low BR German SMGs. The faster firing ones, the MP 28 and M38, have small mags that are very frustrating to use against enemies who take 3-4 shots to kill.

However, that being said, the PPD-34 is overrated (take a look at that damage! Who needs body armour when your enemy's gun deals 6.4 damage?) and Soviet bolt actions are, arguably, the worst in their class at BR I. Not by much, just a tiny bit. Their tanks are better than American tanks (the T-70 at least has a decent HE shell where the M5A1 doesn't, but the M5A1 is better in every other way), but are pretty badly lacking in a lot of ways, but like the Americans their CAS is pretty fucking bad compared to the Germans getting the Duck and the Bf 109 with 4x50kg bombs.

As with most BRs, the Soviets are massively carried by one strong power item and kinda let down by a lot of their other equipment.

>>534730358
The Type 38 rifle is borderline excessively strong since it has an ROF of 80 when perked with bolt action speed. The Type 100 (Early) is also extremely nice despite its low ROF since it has zero recoil and deals 7.2 damage per shot. The Type 97 AT rifle is also, for all intents and purposes, an oversized semi-auto you can use for that purpose.

>>534730358
Also, for Jap riflemen, you CAN just use the Type 99 (Long) squad. Instant 7 HP heals on guys with Vitality a la Moroccans and Italian Marines.

>>534726840
Easily

>>534727037
Allied gear is kind of rough until you hit the lee enfield no. 4

>>534758527
I dunno man, the grease gun and ross are pretty powerful

>>534762436
The Ross is extremely good but the Grease Gun is... Not amazing. It's very accurate and great against Vitality users, but basically redundant against 90% of your targets that won't be using Vitality at BR II. The real secret winner of BR II is the Vickers-Berthier.

>>534762932
it's a decent little gun for BR1
plus the lanchester is also really good

>>534764353
Oh, the regular M3 at BR I is "fine", the M3A1 is a bit sad. The Lanchester and M1A1 are both extremely strong, but behind a good bit of grind.

>>534725013
>you have to mount
Skill issue. You aren't helping anyone picking off a few guys and then instantly dying when pressed on the point, or more likely doing nothing, nowhere near it, in a stupid little nest you made for yourself. The outcome of countless games comes down to who is actually playing the objective and who isn't, and it's almost always the latter with retards who think they're playing sniper elite. It's a shit class played almost exclusively by shit players, of which there is no shortage of

>>534727037
>Boys ATR
Mutts should get the .60 T1E1 tray fed semi ATR as a BP weapon
https://weaponsman.com/the-american-cal-60-anti-tank-rifle-t1-t1e1/

>>534778453
The only problem is that it, in theory, has to be mounted on a massive tripod. I get that they massively fudge other AT rifles, but a tripod would be hard to fudge. They'd have to just come up with a fictional bipod which I guess they could do.

>>534783158
Sure, but inventing a bipod would be less of a fiction than them shrinking the entire type 97 model by 33% and making it shoulder fireable lol

GREAT news for any other anons stuck on xbox you can now download enlisted on the xbox pc app and it has all your console progress

>Need MG kills for task
>BR I
>Germgroids
>Build an MG 131 watching two enemy approaches at once on Fortified District (Conquest)
>Teammate takes my MG and racks up 30 kills in one life
>I rack up 30 kills once he is done with it
>I needed 40 for the task
OH WELL. I am glad a BR I had fun.

>>534785823
Hopefully this is bugged and causes a powersurge that starts fires in console players homes. (they will die because they are unable to work toward an objective)

>Jap Rifleman IIs armed with handheld mortars running into position at 9001 miles per hour and sharting mortars onto the point
Oh boy, this will be... interesting.

>>534788729
Consolefags unlocking the ancient and powerful W key will change EVERYTHING.

>>534789680
A lot of retards will be unable to use it effectively. I am very happy they made it harder to use than the RMN even if it should have been more limited

it's coming to Enlisted

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>>534798943
Hah, nice.

Looks like just a single bomb. Probably a BR4 plane.

>>534799101
Or maybe BR5 as it has two engines right? So should be very fast.

>>534799239
The 109Z is a massive piece of shit.

>>534798943
>>534799013
>>534799101
There is also a new Spitfire found in the fioles

>>534799239
This is in War Thunder. It's faster but maneuvers worse than the regular 109 from what I remember. Should be interesting to fly.

>>534799239
It's just a shittier p38. With the mk108s and a 250 it'll probably be 4
>>534802508
Isn't that the same BP skin that was posted

>>534762932
Oh yeah the Ross is good. Grease gun is decent for an smg at range. Doesn't have high DPS but is controllable.

It's ded

The Pz. III M is pretty strong. It has good pen and decent HE for the caliber. I was bouncing some shots. The pintle mg is nice but it doesn't have good elevation for shooting planes.

>>534590848
>Orita M1941
Kind of like an MP 38. Poor fire rate but very controllable and top tier dispersion.
>M/28 rifle
Just your regular br1 bolt action engineer squad
>Pz.III M
Solid little tank
>Sniper Gewehr 41
Very good with a sick outfit

The only thing the G41 squad was good for was using Scoped MKbs with max recoil reduction perks back when Scoped MKbs were the only meta setup for Moscow Germany

>>534852008
just because you wasted money to do that doesnt mean it was a good idea mbp

>>534854535
It worked pretty well in the Scoped MKb heyday

>don't even play japan above br2
why did I grind that tiger again

>>534856723
It's Kawaii

putting type 44s on my tiger to remind the masses what they do not have

>>534858169
help

>>534849438
>scope mount clearly allows use of ironsights
>can't use ironsights
Imagine paying money for this trash

>>534590848
Out of curiosity, what extra soldiers do old premium squads get access to, since they are obviously all engineers already. Is it just an AT soldier, or do they get access to a radioman? Those old ones were 4 man so they should get two extra soldiers, normally it's either Engineer + Engineer or Engineer + AT, but are the old engineer ones different?

>>534864817
Medic, Sniper, artillery squads get nothing extra

>>534864817
engis get one AT trooper

>>534849438
awhile ago I spent like a dozen games trying to make the scoped g41 work and it just isnt viable
if you dont get killed getting one tapped by a bolt youll get killed up close or while reloading
the only thing that could rescue it is a damage buff and even then it would still just be an oddity never actually good or even just fun to use

>>534866062
As I recall it also really sucked for more rapid fire, if your follow up shot was too quick it would just go like a foot wide

>>534866254
yeah, it has to be paced out which just makes it extra shit. even the soviet equivalent premium is OK up close at least
it really is a remarkably bad squad

>Artillery Luger and Schnellfeuer are the only pistols with viable hipfire spread due to their stocks, and the low weight of the Schnellfeuer can be felt in its recoil
Very soulfully programmed

>>534867737
I remember when the schnellfeuer was nearly unusable because it shot in some fucked up heart-shaped spread

Schnellfeuer, my beloved

>>534875468
The Smartfella was better when it had retard recoil, it was funnier.

>>534875665
It wasn't that bad

>>534799101
>>534799239
In the absolute best circumstances, played ideally, the 190 Z is mediocre. In Enlisted, it will be abysmal because it is not a low alt fighter.

>>534876002
take your bets
p2lose or event plane

>>534876190
I'd vastly prefer a Pay2Lose plane than an event plane, because I'd like an event plane to be something fun and not as great as the tree stuff but usable. The event P-47 is significantly worse than the tree P-47 but is still nice to have.

>>534876002
Nta 260 rds across 4 30mm AND a 250 kg means it will be great at ground pounding and nothing else. Hoping it's an event reward because germs need an actually good fighter premium at BR3

>>534876524
They have one of the best fighters at BR3 as is with the 190 A-8

>>534876190
It's going to get a flam C and be the German event counterpart to the jungle fire event planes

>>534876524
The sole use it will have will be flying very hard and fast in a straight line, holding LMB, hitting space, then flying as fast as you can in a straight line while hoping the enemy doesn't have any AA or planes. It will probably be BR IV or V because of its armament, since having 4x30mm is excessive for BR III, so it will likely be useless regardless.

>>534876823
Please no

>>534876867
I suppose on paper the armament is similar to the K4, despite it being much shittier for several reasons.

>>534876648
Yeah and everyone else has excellent planes at the BR as well (the prem yak, zero, 4hvar are all good). Getting something that can turn and not have a borked FM would be nice as a backup/grinder, as the germs don't have a lot of fighter variety there

>>534876867
>excessive for BR III
People said the same about the grizzly but the Z is almost as large of a target, more fragile, with no defensive armament, and an arguably worse payload. The 110 was only moved to 4 because of its rockets getting buffed and was packing more firepower at 3 since the merge. It's just as likely to be 3 as 4 IMO. It won't be 5

>>534877467
The Grizzly is kind of absurd for BR III and remains absurd at BR III.

>>534876524
4 widely spaced 30mm I might add. You will be able to saturate an entire area with a small burst

>>534799239
>So should be very fast.
about the same speed as the BR2 mustang
>>534802462
in warthunder yeah
it might be good here because the mk108 is the best strafing weapon in the game

>>534877093
the f4 trop sucks ass

>>534878882
It's a good thing you have the A-8 and 110s if you are too bad at the game to point your nose up in the F-4.

>>534877594
The cannon legitimately takes skill to use and the bombs take a lot of practice to aim well. Most people just spawn and lawndart nuke a position. It is one of the few planes with actually scary turrets which pretty heavily counteracts it flying like a bus, but it doesn't really break any gameplay at BR3 that wouldn't be broken anyway (spammed in a stack or similar)

>>534879893
Even if it had no cannon at all I would say it should be at BR4

>>534879684
>no payload
its garbage retard

>>534880257
That's because it's an air superiority fighter, which it is exceedingly good at.

>>534880257
>>534880941
The 190 F-4 is meant to be equivalent to the Yak-3 and P-38E. If you want to bomb things, you are meant to, in theory, use the Bf 110s (which are also fairly competent fighters, by the way) or the Fw 190 A-8. After M8 rockets got nerfed repeatedly, saying that any plane equipped with them is "good" at CAS is kind of disingenuous since they are only really great for popping APCs or open tops, which can be done with a 20mm.

>>534881645
You can still pop Pz. IVs with M8s, it's just a little less consistent.

>>534880234
Considering it's better than the A20s and how it would be if mutt teams weren't generally awful yeah, but it's fine where it is right now

>>534881891
Consistency is pretty important when you have to return to spawn to rearm. For most players, having two wing mounted 50kg bombs on their planes is also more of a detriment than a positive, since aiming them is hard and 99% of players have no idea how to bomb, let alone dive bomb. A lot of people here, and on the forums, forget that Enlisted is balanced heavily around a schizophrenic mixture of the lowest common denominator and the highest skilled players. The average Enlisted player is a 12-18 year old console player who is used to aim assist in the new CoD games and Fortnite literally playing the game for them, not a clanfag who understands damage thresholds and their importance or how to perfectly lob RMN-50s into windows from 200 meters away.

>>534880941
>air superiority fighter
>in an infantry focused combined arms game
yeah I already told you its garbage

>>534882326
Then use your heavy fighters that have 2x250kg bombs, 2x20mm cannons and 4x7.92 machine guns on the nose.

Customizable payloads like War Thunder when?

>>534882969
>90% HE/HEAT loads
how horrifying

>>534882453
I do, none of that makes the f4 not garbage
>one of the 3 formerly 2 air options germans have at BR3 is not worth using in any circumstance
some variety would indeed be nice

>>534881645
who is talking about M8 rockets?

>>534883279
planes only

>>534883618
I was preempting the "BUT THE AMERICANS GET AIR SUPERIORITY FIGHTERS WITH M8s!" comments, which people always make.

>>534883283
Having 4 planes in your lineup makes you severely mentally ill and means people should generally ignore your opinions on anything.

>>534884309
have you considered crying about it? this game would be endlessly boring with a static line up and you get 10 presets for a reason. nice try with the well akshually about the f4 though lmao, its still garbage that isnt worth using like the vast majority of planes in this game

>>534885090
The F-4 is fine at what it does, and what its intended use is. Planes being kind of terrible is by design, and is arguably good design because anybody who played BF2 back in the day knows what it's like to endure a game where planes are dominant.

The real issue is that planes have bled into each other, without a clear delineation between fighters and bombers anymore. Fighters should exist to counter bombers, and really shouldn't have any other function. In an ideal world, planes would be a temporary reward you can use after performing enough ground objectives, since their presence detracts massively from the game outside of occasionally bombing a grey zone tank. Sniper squads of the sky.

>Erm but here's a clip of me listening to a lowfi nightcore remix of In The End (reverb) while getting 50 kills???
Cool, there are clips of people wiping entire points with mortars or garbage tanks like the AB 41, the exception proves the rule.

>>534885090
That is dedication to the memes right there

>>534883845
well the P38 is notoriously strong though, and the M8s are still plenty capable of killing most armor when spammed, so they kind of have a point, its a uniquely allied strength
>>534885931
>Planes being kind of terrible is by design
that there are so many worthless planes without any suspended armament is more an artifact of the campaign progression series than an intentional balance decision in the current BR system. having so many vehicles that take up actual slots yet are a complete non-presence on the battlefield is bad game design. no other way to slice that.
>and really shouldn't have any other function
the muddying of the categories reflects the real world use of the equipment, and fighter bombers are some of the most fun this game has to offer, you sound like you just play the same squads over and over without any joy or entertainment outside of forcing a win
>Sniper squads of the sky
you are literally advocating for that to be the case, instead of giving all planes even the most meager ability to influence the battlefield. even a mere buff to strafing would make nearly half the vehicles in this game worth using in a single change, but bomblets at the very least should be the norm
>the exception proves the rule
im not even a stellar pilot but I have done and have seen others carry games from the air. a decent pilot can make as much an impact on the outcome of a game as the T2H, especially in otherwise close games that come down to ticket bleed. to pretend otherwise is just performatively posting out of spite
>>534887218
sometimes I just feel like flying

Is the Kikka more maneuverable than the Jabo? I don’t know what it is but I feel like I absolutely decimate allied planes with the Kikka but not nearly as well with the Jabo. Maybe it’s a necessity thing where the Kikka has so little ammo that I absolutely can’t miss.

yes because it pulls energy out of its ass with it having the best climb rate in the game, and it also turns slightly better, but its less stable than the 262. either way you should be climbing to dive on allied planes
my credit card for a BR5 nip attacker

>>534889735
>>534890269
oops

>>534885931
Mortars are good at BR1

is the KT the only tank immune from heavy mortars?

>>534895251
I don't think it's immune to heavy mortars

scout plane mechanic when?

Will Japan ever get a better BR3 tank?

>>534895251
It's not, you can trust me on that.

>>534902871
They should add in that post-war MBT at BR4 and move all their BR4 tanks down to 3.

>>534897287
I really want to fight on an airfield full of wunderwaffe shit
cmon darkflow
go all in

>>534903762
The Chi-To has similar protection to the M4A2

I hate the map rating system for giving me hope that I would see less gavutu

>>534904843
>>534903762
The Chi-To is basically a KV-1 with a significantly better gun for anti-tank, but significantly worse for anti-infantry. It could easily be BR III.

>Point is completely clear
>I am on it alone with my three remaining troops
>Wonder where everyone is
>Check minimap
>Like 5 squads all bunched up on the same hill, completely kept in place by one tank
>Not even a good tank

>>534897287
>scout plane mechanic when?
You can already mark tanks and APCs from the air while pointing nowhere near their actual position

>>534914016
>>534897287
Sniper squads should get scout planes they can call in, that's all that matters. Even if they were only used sometimes, they would make a HUGE fucking difference to how worthless Sniper squads are.

>>534914105
Combination with an Artillery squad, allowing precision strikes on vehicles would be nice.

Enlisted is a game of averages.
You can be significantly better than the enemy team's best player, who has better gear than you and is down-tiered.
But ultimately, the team with the better spread of average skill and higher BR average generally wins.
Not having half your team quit helps, too. I guess it was disheartening for the newfags on my team to be put against Grants and Crusaders that they really couldn't do much against. The sheer volume of rallies I mined and destroyed felt obscene. I destroyed three separate APCs as well.
Got my dailies done at least.

I am going to autistically spectate CollateralToast to see how he plays and if he's grouped up. Grouping up at BR I-II seems unnecessarily cruel and unusual to me.

Captcha: OWNDK. It knows.

>>534920470
>Watch one of CollateralToast's matches
>Bae_Suzyy is in it
>"Huh, that name is familiar..."
>He goes 106/0 by spending the whole match building AT guns and spamming them
Oh yes, him. I remember now.

NEW EVENT!!!

>Reinforcements received: Aviation

>From August 12th (13:00 UTC) to September 5th (13:00 UTC), get battle score in battles and move up the rewards ladder! You have two days to complete each task!

https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/946-reinforcements-received-aviation-en/#!/

>Bf 109 Z-1 (Germany, BR V)

>An experimental twin-fuselage fighter, combining two Bf 109 F airframes with a new center wing section and a single tailplane.

>It is armed with four 30 mm MK 108 cannons and a 250 kg SC250JA bomb, which can be useful for destroying enemy formations, ground vehicles and fortifications.

>The aircraft comes without a squad and is available for the II./JG3 (Fighter Pilot III).

>>534799101
>>534821742
>>534877467
It's BR V

>>534934392
Is the Lahti any good ?

>>534934936
It must be actually decent at killing planes despite the dispersion and MV solely because of the lead indicator for devs to place it at top tier. I think I remember it being somewhat viable in WT AAB for the same reason. Still surprising as at 4.7 it is 1-3 ranks lower than nearly every other BRV plane. Germany truly suffers

>>534937781
It's a BR2 BAR

>shitfire is outrageously strong at BR2 but with no bombs
>Z overlaps with jet squad at top tier
>no space for a 5th lahti anywhere
Never going to use any of this, may aa well ignore this event entirely
At least the Z is not a premium

>>534867737
I bet the Schwartz has manageable hipfire too. I'm very impressed with the tech of the Schwartz; muzzle brake, extended mag, foregrip, and stock. You probably can't get it more right with a machine pistol. And this was made before the '40s?

today I will remind them

>>534939423
Did the Spitfire never carry bombs irl? At least one model should've. I'd use it even if it only had one (1) bomb

All event items ending up in the same three squads is over time going to be devastating for preset variety. Plus the third squad is always reserved for meta end game vehicles anyway

>>534956160
I missed out on legacy squads. Having those extra legacy squads means you can bring the standard planes plus use the tech tree squads for event planes. Add legacy squads to loot crates please!

>>534960064
Yeah but as they keep putting event squads in the same three progression squads you’re going to have to start making choices. Plus the top tier progression squad is where the meta vehicles are so they are off the table immediately

>>534934936
>>534934392
>It's BR V
My psychic powers... once again...

>Play any BR
>Every single match, regardless of tier, has some queers in a premade just instastomping with absolutely zero shame or remorse
>Even BR I-II
This game's community is full of shameless retarded psychopaths.

>>534934392
>Spitfire Mk 9 at BR2
>Bf109 Z at BR 5
How can an event have both the most Overpowered and the most Underpowered vehicles at the same time.

>>534975080
The Spitfire will be used exclusively for bullying other planes, since it doesn't get a 500lb bomb.

An insanely dominant low BR fighter sounds like a lot of fun with how often low BR players fall back on spamming planes when they’re losing. But I think my BR2 allies is already pretty packed, plus they’ve got the P38

>>534951958
This model definitely had hard points but it would be the best fighter bomber in the game if it got the 250 it could carry. Very boring with how shit the 20s are at strafing
>>534965731
Forum animals are already baying for it to be lowered
>>534981952
The spitfire we have already is already that

>>534985326
The 109 Zigger being BR V is kind of obscene, it should probably be IV. Get rid of the bomb and make it a pure interceptor and it can be III because it flies like absolute ass.

>>534987194
>because it flies like absolute ass
Well, we don't know that yet

>>534987657
It flies badly in War Thunder. Under ideal conditions, played by the best players in the game, it is "serviceable". It turns like shit and climbs like shit at low altitudes, all it does is go fast in a straight line at high altitude (like 5km, which nobody does in Enlisted). It's BR 4.7 in War Thunder for a reason: because it's shit.

How did the Italians lose when they had aircraft like the Fiat G.55

>>534332906
Its astounding how many cheaters are in this game to the point where its actually unplayable. I see someone, think "hey theyre cheating but im probably just paranoid" and take down their name only to see every single one of the of the names in my list in the ban wave. Its fucking unreal how bad the cheating is in this game and its embarrassingly obvious. Bros whats the point in even playing if my teammates are retarded and the enemy team has faggots que'd with cheaters on their 400th account?

>>534993597
because they had almost japan-tier manufacturing capabilities

>>534987657
It's very stiff and non responsive which you would expect from stapling two separate sets of control surfaces together

Russian event plane never ever

>>534987194
It competing for a slot with the schwalbe is a match up it will never win out in

>>534988494
Is there any other 4.7 plane at BR4 or 5?

>>534998778
what even would it be? something like a p-39 or p-63 seems like it'd be pretty broken for an event only plane

>>535001540
The P63 is in game already and ultra mid

>>535002795
huh
so it is
wild

>>535001540
any of the other yak 3/9s or su 6s, p47, spitfire, i301, tis ma, ITP, IL4, pe 8, yak 2, yak 4, just looking at the WT tree. the p39 should be TT

>>535001540
Gib Bereznyak-Isayev BI-1 rocket plane
Can bundle it in an event with the Komet

>>535004698
no
double no
fuk u

>>535002795
Paradivision said it is OP Rossiyan bias because it gets a 37mm though ;(

>>535008536
you know, back when war thunder had 20 levels of progress rather than any of the BR nonsense, 9 times out of 10 you were dead once a P-39 got behind you

Low br Berlin is king I’m glad they added it. I hope they never restrict maps to only high br again

>>535002795
>ultra mid
It seems too sluggish. If it gets pulled into a turn fight it stays floaty for too long and makes it vulnerable.

>>535015412
The P-63s have terrible engine power and maneuverability at low altitude and speed.

>>534865581
That's a shame, at BR1 the AT trooper is going to be near useless.

>>535019716
German BR I AT is insane. You do have the Solothurn AT... Right?

>>535021289
imagine being the fool here who willingly skipped out one on the best BP rewards in the game lmao

>>535022642
It's so stupidly strong, it feels like bullying to use it sometimes.

>>535023461
but you have to mount it! IT'S TRASH

>>535021289
I guess I could replace this meme squad with them, but I love their uniforms so much, even if they only get to wear them in one campaign I never see.

what happened to japanese teams these are some of the biggest shitters in the game

>>535023870
Just go prone bro. Just go prone and spam hip shots.

>>535025268
Oh yeah, they have fallen off HARD and FAST. Still better than most teams but they are not the slaughtergods they were.

>>535016678
Not sure why that would be but I definitely feel it or the lack thereof. Shame because the mid engine design is interesting.

>>535021289
I thought I'd get solothurn for my 50 gold orders only to log in and find out they're all been long gone

>>535032990
The Solothurn was long after the rework of the GO system, Anon-san.

Did this update fuck something up or do I need to replace my ram?

>>535033601
I have had two enormous semi-crashes, so I think it's the update.

>first 262 shoot down was by a mark 9 spitfire
>br2
Lol

>>535025268
Queue any completely ruined Japanese teams.

>>535001540
Soviet Spitfire.

>>534934392
>fuck
i was enjoying only having to play 1-2 games a day. was getting into 7 days to die

>Enlisted is now available on Game Pass
https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/947--en/#!/

>Type 100 SMG (early): increased base rate of fire from 450 to 700, increased weight from 3.8 to 4.2 kg
>Type 100 Paratrooper SMG: increased base rate of fire from 450 to 700, increased weight from 3.8 to 4.3 kg
Huh!?

>>535054730
>Absurd Jap buffs
Okay... why? The Type 100 (Early) is insane now. Easily the single strongest SMG in the game.

>>535055110
>>535054730
Holy fuck the Type 2A is insane.

>kept it at br1
did someone hack gaijin again

>Type 100 LMG fires at 1100 RPM
Jesus FUCK WHAT.

YUGE patch

>Making Enlisted a Better Place №71

>This new issue of the "Making Enlisted a Better Place" series focuses on the buffs to Japanese weapons, the addition of bombers to Practice mode, tweaks to locations and missions, bug fixes and also smaller improvements.

https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/948-making-enlisted-a-better-place-71-en/#!/

Buffs to Japan were decided upon after analyzing data from the USSR vs Japan event.

>>535060259
>From now on, bombers will appear every two minutes as additional targets in Practice mode. We hope that this will help you hone your skills in taking down enemy planes and prepare you for battles against other players.
Very nice

>>535055732
1100x2

>Type 1 SMG: increased base rate of fire from 500 to 620
Type 1 is good now for a BRII smg ?

>>535068762
Not feeling that much of an improvement.

>>535060259
>fixed stick ppsh dispersion
End of an era

>>535040730
I've exclusively played queue all since they added it and this Japan situation only became the norm after the recent fair fight event
>>535055110
It stringing fliers combined with its firerate made it bad at crowd control which is the #1 thing an SMG needs to do at BR1. The premium was pretty mid too. I can see why they buffed it as BR1 Japan was losing a lot even before the manchuria event
>>535060259
Bro the type ko is still absolute dogshit +0.5 means nothing and making the 97 LMG slower to lug around is strange as it's already like molasses
>gorov buff
+0.7 damage let's fucking go I'm not sure how much that's going to make a difference honestly
>Objects no longer flicker in the sights of the Type Hei Automatic rifle and Type Hei LMG while firing
Unquestionably the largest buff in these notes

How in the fuck

>>535083697
The damage should be 6.2 honestly

>no word on changing the event plane BRs
>going to be eclipsed by whining about japan
bleak

>>535084665
The BR doesn't even matter, simply sharing a squad with the Jabo means I'll use it once to feel how it flies then change it back and never use it again.

>>535084860
>can't use jabo at BR3 or 4
>take 1 second to swap it out

>>535081429
with upgrades the ko is 14 and the gorov is 15.3

>>535085654
>take 1 second to swap it out

>>535089696
Still worse than using a progression engineer squad with better composition and the 14.9 damaage Type 4. Gorov changes are appreciated but I'd rather see it dropped in BR and either get nerfed or moved to another slot like machine gun

Definitely going to get the Medics, Bike, and if it comes back the Chi-Ha for Christmas.

>>535099358
The 100 early will either be nerfed or moved up by then

FUCKING REMOVE GAVUTU DEMOLITION
EVERYONE HATES IT

>ONE OF US IS DEAD
REMOVE THIS CORNY ASS LINE

rate

>>535109931
I’d swap the 105 for the regular M4A2
And spend your perk points

>>535110563
hmmm i may try that
those green arrows are because i don't have binos

>>535109931
Oh and even if you want to snipe, you’re much better off using a radio squad with a sniper in it, with the other squaddies picking up the rifle if the sniper dies. Enables you to spam arty while sniping

>>535111065
hmmm interesting

yeah, the lee-enfield sniper is literally my favourite gun in the game

>>535109931
Bretty gud

>>535060259
The PPSh nerf leaves BR III Soviets extremely weak. All they have is the KV now.

>>535116308
Nah bro the KV is actually bad
DAE panzerfaust???

buff rifle grenades

>>535117291
fuck off shitter

>>535117720
it takes just as much skill to use rifle grenades as it does to use full auto weapons

>>535117820
so none at all? great point moron

>>535118156
kill yourself

>>535118264
with perks this game has lower recoil lower skill weapons than any COD or BF title
eat shit and die rock bottom quintile mouth breathing idiot

>>535118510
simple fact of the matter is that a grenade that explodes within 5m of a body should kill them

>>535118652
even totally disregarding the gameplay experience a 15 foot absolute kill radius wasn't even plausible for all of the 60-100 grams of filler in the various infantry HE munitions of WW2
you have no idea what you are talking about, no idea about the difference between concussion and frag, or any of the idiosyncracies of any of these munitions, and you are appealing to realism so that you can have even more shitter crutch bullshit that ruins the fucking game for everyone else

all the animations for rifle grenades have to be slowed down, the (manual) bolt cycling animation reintroduced, and some kind of limitation on the amount carried must be added before there is any discussion of making this shitter cheese class of weapons more lethal. we just got another bullshit GL, and even the minor amount of skill required for the saka mortar doesn't prevent it from being as notoriously effective as the RMN in the right hands, and the same goes for all the GL spamming losers that infect BR3. thank god they are not as strong as they used to be

>>535121563
Lol no one but console noobs use grenade launchers because they comparatively suck

>>535121563
There are still plenty of faggots trying to force wins at top tier with rifle grenades too

>>535060521
huh, I was actually trying out a plane a couple days ago and that happened
I thought it was just a thing and I had never noticed before
I guess they had updated the server side code for that early

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SltWg4WTKcs

These buffs are insane

>>535131429
fuck off

>>535131429
ywnbaw

>>535131429
>These buffs are ins-ACK!

>>535131571
Who is that that's not me

>>535135958
read the filename you dumb nigger it's oswald mosley

>>535131571
>>535136267

>>535131429
What are the justifications for those changes?

>>535143592
Soviets

>>535143592
Japan needs to be literally unbeatable.

The people who play this game are so fucking delusional. There are forum animals saying that the PPD and Reising are comparable to the new Type 100.

>gavutu demolition with a retard team
>get pushed back to the final hangar obj with 800 mutt tickets left
>just cycle through my 3 arisaka mortar squads running up the stairs and shooting through the holes in the roof at clusters of them as they desperately try to plant for 10 minutes straight
>win
lol

>>535145247
being a bot shooter means otherwise mid players get huge egos and think they really understand the game. this dynamic explains the psychology of many of this games most vocal players

Shovel improvements when

>>535160412
No need

So Manchuria for Christmas, then?

>>535143592
BR changes soon.

>>535160495
Anon, I need shovels with sprint speed modifiers.

Also animation improvements

>>535150581
I'm not amazing at the game but even I understand balance theory and such. There are SO many people on the forums who say the Soviets are unbeatably overpowered and that the Japanese are terrible, but my experience has been the exact opposite. It's like they see one obviously good thing (powerful SMGs) and totally discount everything else.

>Japan starts as trash
>Stacked anyway
>Get buffed
>Japan stays OP
>RNG even happens
>Get buffed
By the time we reach Manchuria Japan will be able to kill IS-3s with the Type 14 Nambu.

>>535164063
They probably buffed Japan because of data from the event, or to get people playing them before Manchuria.

>>535164063
I need more Hino Rifles, these things are a blast

>Fixed an issue where the adjustments (scale, rotation, condition) to the default camouflage of bikes, APCs, Battle Pass, Event and Twitch Drop tanks were not reflected on the vehicles in battles.
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>535150054
Did you build ammo crates to resupply the mortars lol

>>535165939
That's a good point. If there aren't enough players as it is that play Japan against USA, then there definitely won't be enough if a new front opens up for Japan with the USSR. There was probably hope that the incentives for randomized nation setting would help balance matchmaking. But we don't have that kind of data including nation pops. War Thunder gives a rough breakdown by nation and tier when queuing.

>>535180063
They should probably add rewards for playing a different nation like if there is a need for Japs you could get a token for a Planinim Glugger.

>>535193291
I like that idea. Like Planetside 2 if a faction was underpopulated there would be rewards to joining that faction and helping the effort to promote balance. I'm not a faction main so I just let the matchmaker fill me in. Unfortunately it means I don't get many Soviet matches but it is what it is.

>>535180063
>>535193291
Run an event for Japan just handing out spare squads
Would love an extra gunner and assaulter squad to fill out all my lineups
Japan has needed more squads for years now

Still seething I didn’t get the now BR2 Suomis

too bad BR2 sucks now

>>535225494
>too bad BR2 sucks now
Why?

>>535235853
Not him, but probably because it always gets up-tiered into BR III these days. Also, on the subject of BR III: man, the PPSh-41 feels awful compared to how it used to. Like, it's still fine, still the best in its class, but it doesn't have the ability to completely carry your team/lineup anymore, which leaves Soviets a bit high and dry. The Germans have a straight-up better version of it.

>>535060259
All of these buffs to Japan, and their low BR AT emplacement still shoots hot potatoes.

They also seem to have adjusted AT squad xp requirements. I had some extra levels on squads I haven't been using in ages

>>535240118
Japan's low tier AT gun is better than the Slavshit 45mm, but both are shit. The German 50mm is by far the best.

>>535240486
I never had a problem with the Soviet one. With the Japanese one I often feel like I am shooting fireworks at tanks, and infantry.

Maybe it's the angle when facing tanks, but its HE has to be on the mark

>>535240486
The 57 is better at HE spam

>>535239769
Premium T34E when?

>>535241173
>>535244707
The Japanese 57mm HE is slightly worse, but the APHE has slightly better penetration. The post-pen is also SLIGHTLY worse. They are pretty even.

>>535247772
Sorry, I meant 47mm.

>>535235853
too much cool gear I want to use with too many uptiers shackled to deadweight teams. not fun
the contrast with how it used to be before the MM rules changed compared to how it is now means I left for greener pastures

I would not be able to queue all at toptier without the tempest-meteor-p80 stack
allies teams are just such dogshit

I will stop using ppsh-41 box as primary as it's way too inaccurate now. Welcome back PPS-42 and box will be a secondary in case of needing something in cqc.

>>535258752
The 43 is more accurate in terms of raw dispersion.

>>535116308
>extremely weak
SVT-38
Sniper SVT-38
RMN-50
DP-27
KV-1
T-34 STZ/-57
PPS-42 is still there and superior to German smgs
IL-2M
Pe-2-31
Yak-9K
IL-2
Su-2 if you need even more bombs
Paratroopers x2

>>535259256
weak

>>535259115
Doesn't matter if it's actual recoil is horrible. Just burst fire and dispersion won't be an issue.

>>535259256
>Snipers
Lol.

>Extremely rare GO item
Lol?

>DP
Worse than the KE, MG 34 and BAR

>Tanks, a T-34 that is no longer available
Genuinely overrated.

>Planes
Non-factor.

>Event and premium paras and guerillas
Lol.

So they have the SVT and KV-1.

>>535259256
>not even naming the La-5

>>535249530
What greener pastures? BR3?

>>535261957
No 9T either.

>>535220431
Wouldn’t a Lahti on the MG be more appropriate

there is nothing in any other game like the dread of popping a booster, loading into a match and seeing only console players on your team

>>535262285
in general: 1, 3, 5 are all more playable than 2
>>535262438
you are right

>>535260680
how do they fix it? hopefully by not adding papershit to BR3

>>535264726
To be honest I was overreacting. It's still a strong lineup, it's just a bit boring and losing the PPSh's insane accuracy makes it harder to force wins.

>>535266310
nah soviet BR3 is exceptionally boring and now the only thing they have over the germans is not having panzer 4s

>>535267057
The SVT is good, and I would personally take the Garand or Type 4 for the extra damage, but it is still better than the G41 (which should probably have a small damage buff to make up for the horrible reload. The Pavesi SVT is very fun to use with a worse reload but more damage). The Panzer III N with its new shells is also extremely strong at everything and has 80mm of hull armour to top that off.

The Yak-9K is extremely strong, but also a premium, and I think I have seen two of them in my hundreds of BR III matches. It's kind of hard to justify playing as BR III Soviets when they have such little variety, they get tedious very fast.

>>535267653
The pavesi is better and quite common

>>535264726
PPD1929 and PPD34/38 to BR3

>>535269348
The Pavesi also has a 5.2 second reload.

>>535270538
Which would matter considerably more in a game where you can't just swap to the soldier next to him with a full mag
OHK is more important than a fast reload besides

the SVT38 (and all semis, but at least BR3 ones) should be reloaded with clips

>>535273513
True, but 5.4 seconds is a long time.

My biggest pet peeve in this game is when some fucking asshole leaves the cap to come kill my safe bullshit rally point off yonder. That's why I bring a free, event, and premium guerilla squads with sprint+run speed and paratroopers so I can just spend the rest of the match playing the "let's be an asshole" game and camp their spawns. Don't care about the win at that point and instead just make it a point to hunt and AP their rallies and APCs so they spawn at the defaults miles away and don't get a chance to play the game. Thank goodness for the guerilla update.

>>535274695
idk about the insane vindictive part but partisans are easily the most fun thing theyve ever put in the game
before the greyzone nerf diving on camping tanks was sublime gameplay

>>535273826
The Fedorov Avtomat should be a BR III machine gun like the BAR with more recoil.

>>535269827
this
soulviets need this

>Rush into position with cool, fair, balanced Arisaka Mortar
>Get like 20 kills with one guy before the enemy team notices what is going on
>Make at least one guy quit, possibly two
Lol. Cool stuff.

What compels someone to get upset when you tell your team to stop being retarded and build rallies?
Like 90% of the time if someone responds it ends with them getting mad you point out them having 20 kills and they sit and waste their own time for 10 minutes moving around enough to not get kicked while still taking up a slot and crying in chat. Why wouldn't you just leave?
I hope all the passive reports I make do something

>>535284027
Passive reports have never done anything, they are there as a steam release valve.

>BP done
>Still 26 days until the next one

>>535284027
I just want fuckers to defend my rally points at the least and not let enemies just waltz right on up to them

What was that small update?

So with the new buffs, is the Type 2a better than the Thomp’san? Thompson still has better RoF but fuddy five and a 20 round mag is making me question whether they are worth keeping around. Which is obviously a shame because they’re hilarious

>>535294397
it's over.

>>535294536
The Type 2a and Type 2 are obscene now, arguably better than the Thompson for regular use. The Thompson's advantage is having guaranteed downs against Vit users.

>>535294536
>>535295350
Also the Type 2s have very high hipfire accuracy. You should be using a mixture of Type 2a and Type 100 (Early) at BR II, since the Type 100 arguably does the Thompson's job just as well at point blank.

>>535294536
>is the Type 2a better than the Thomp’san?
It is lol. That's how ridiculous those buffs were.

>Enemy team has 6 guys building rallies
>Only one other guy on my team has engineer points besides me
>He spends the entire fucking game in a fucking plane
>We lose
Cool. I love this playerbase.

>type 1 was kinda shitty at BR3 because of its rof
>gets dropped to BR2
>it's actually pretty good because its slow rof and relatively low damage balances its 50 round mag
>gets an rof upgrade to 710

this is uh
very clubby now

>>535299779
they didn't buff the BP type 1 though lmaoe

>>535299779
>>535299954
This patch has done irreparable damage to the game. Playing as BR I-II Americans is basically impossible because the Japanese are SO overpowered. You just cannot compete. The Type 100 and Type 2a are so blisteringly OP. Easily BR IV guns in performance.

>mow down krauts with my pps43
>mow down mutts with my type 2
>collect roundeye tears in my flask
it's a good day to be the asiatic horde

>>535307307
Russian teams get buttfucked pretty regularly, it's fundamentally impossible to lose as the Japanese.

>>535308067
>have to fight against a better SMG
>impossible
I love when gaijin steps on the fat sausage toes of mutts and wehroids, they always squeal the loudest

>>535308745
Dawg I just played a match where, even half-assing it, I went 95/3 as the Japanese. The Type 100 is batshit. The Japanese get the best BR I bolt action, swords on every troop, and a BR IV SMG at BR I. This is coupled with the fact that Americans are generally fucking terrible players. The Japanese BR II, III and V are also ridiculous. They are exclusively let down by their tanks, but they have the strongest infantry weapons in the game.

>>535309296
Oh yeah, the Japanese also get the best BR I AT as well.

>>535309296
>I can seal club retards at br1 the game is irreparably damaged
truly

>>535309916
This has become a shotgun blast to the skull of player retention. Newfags pick the US, a lot (they are the most popular faction at BR I, arguably). A bunch of oldfags are swarming BR I Japs to exploit the Type 100, and a lot are playing BR II to exploit the Type 2a. Thousands of people who are giving the game a go as the US are logging in just to be absolutely obliterated by what can only be called the most overpowered gear in the game. The Type 100 and Type 2a just fucking evaporate people.

The longer this goes on, the worse it gets.

>>535310460
>people use the good gun
>this is it we're finished it's over
it's cool how you've switched from crying about the pps43 and body armour but you're still just as embarrassing

>>535311172
I am sure that thousands of new players being bullied out of the game by the single worst balance patch in the game's history will have no lasting ramifications. Also, I never really bitched about the PPS or body armour, and comparing them is disingenuous. The Type 100 is arguably better than the Kiraly in performance. It's not just "good, it's a zero recoil laser beam being exploited en masse by veteran players at the lowest possible BR. It out-competes everything the Americans get until... Fuck, I dunno, the Hyde 1944?

>>535311678
I take it back germgroids will autistically pull out spreadsheets and statistics to complain about shit no one cares about but mutt mains insisting the game is dead if they can't stomp the yellow cavemen at low tier are more annoying

>>535310460
>>535311678
>thousands of new players being bullied out of the game by the single worst balance patch in the game's history will have no lasting ramifications
It's truly baffling

>>535312396
Americans have always been assblasted at low tier by Japan because American teams are just garbage and filled with the most braindead of newfags. This will have lasting consequences on player retention that will only get worse the longer this goes on.

>>535313796
american players don't have the brainpower to comprehend why they get demolished. they'll get wiped by an SMG and just cycle the next squad of snipers and forget about it

>>535301180
>This patch has done irreparable damage to the game
Do you think it'll get reverted

>>535308067
Retarded statement

>>535313796
You literally never played japan BR1 before this. Being the only slant on the point completely unable to put out enough DPS to stem the tide of US players pouring onto the point is a common experience

>a change happens/something new gets added
>dipshit gamers start doom posting during the initial wave of interest thinking this new influx is permanent
>a week later it's back to normal
This exact thing just happened with the nip tiger, it happened with jets, guerillas, paratroopers, the stg et al, every seemingly blisteringly OP, tech tree or event or premium item added over the past few years

>>535311678
>thousands of new players being bullied out of the game
We can only hope. Too many dogshit players as is

>Forum groids complained that a tech tree PPSh-41 with a bramit device slapped on was just too much
>But Japs getting BR4 smgs in BR1 is fine

>>535311678
>The Type 100 is arguably better than the Kiraly in performance
Okay so you're just retarded

>>535328680
This wasn't a brand new addition but a patch though

>>535280856
There is already a Fedorov machine gun and it's BR IV

need to wash the battlefield 6 slop out of my mouth

is this game actually good? I played once when it was revealed and open but never touched it again

>>535343830
Can you read?

>>535355606
I enjoy it

>>535358134
oh god I booted it up again and remembered why I quit. A billion fucking soldiers I have to micro manage and outfit and research and individually level up and gear up and customize oh my god why

>it's an allies are worthless garbage that don't push the points and don't put down rallies episode
back to maining germans

>>535361508
Yeah, you have to be able to appreciate and embrace the autism

>>535361508
Understandable

>>535335508
The Type 100 has almost no recoil while firing at 810 and dealing two shot kill damage.

>>535366141
The Kiraly has nerfed recoil, a higher RoF, more damage, and more ammo.
There is no way you can argue that the Type 100 is better.

>>535366774
The Kiraly has nearly 3x as much recoil. I don't think you realise just how little recoil the Type 100 has. It has no horizontal drift, at all. It basically just shits out bullets in a perfectly straight line with better accuracy than the Kiraly and a slightly lower ROF. If you take even just 3 points of vertical reduction, the Type 100 has like... 3/2 recoil.

>>535367352
The Kiraly doesn't have much recoil either after they lowered it.

>>535328680
>Jap tiger
I said it would be a nothingburger, and it was.

>Jets
I said they would be a nothingburger, and they were, besides the Meteor and P-80 being retarded.

>Guerillas
I said they would be a nothingburger outside of bullying people, and they were.

>StG
This made Normandy insanely unfun in the campaign system.

Paras DID break the game and did insane damage to the playerbase when they first released.

>>535367642
NTA but I find the Kiraly so hard to use at long range that I stick with the 40-round Beretta @ Germany's BR4

>>535367642
>>535370152
Even with its reduced recoil, the Kiraly still pulls around in a circle a lot more than the Type 100, which basically sits in one spot. Both variants are like that. Also, on a related note, Japanese paras get the Type 2a at BR I from their box, and it's ridiculous.

>>535370748
>Japanese paras get the Type 2a at BR I from their box, and it's ridiculous.
Yeah I noticed that, it's hilarious.

>>535371067
One of the more underappreciated aspects of Japanese SMGs is how accurate some of them are. The Tokyo Arsenal, Type 2s and S1-100 are significantly more accurate from the hip, even the Type 100s are more accurate than average. Nobody is using it, but the Type 2 with the 50 round mag and bayonet is really fucking fun. It's also worth noting that Japanese SMGs almost universally have nearly no visual recoil, so the sights stay basically static while you fire.

>>535371451
And if the majority of their maps weren't out in the open it might be a problem

what a curious addition to the map

what uh
what causes this

>>535372134
Gavutu and Myansera have close range caps thoughever, and Myansera has a lot of street fighting.

>>535372392
American teams are universally terrible because they are the default faction for dumb children.

>>535372392
Average American team

>>535372586
>thoughever

>>535372993
>>535372817
oh well, I just wanted to spam chaffee-scott-random mook squad so I can get through this event
I don't even want the plane!

>>535373201
When playing as the Americans or Soviets, you should expect to lose at least 20% of the time no matter how well you play. That's my winrate as them without quitting.

I wish I had one more Ass squad for the Japanese, fuck.

>>535376684
Ya got medics, don't ya?

>>535376937
It's not enough or the same.

>>535368173
>I
>I
>I
No one cares about your ego self service on an anonymous image board dude
>Paras DID break the game and did insane damage to the playerbase
Do you have anything to back this up?

>>535385692
Nigga were you playing Normandy when the paras first came out? They dropped instantly onto the point and wiped it in seconds en masse every single match so badly that they had to be hard nerfed. The absolutely fucked balance for a while and I know at least a few people who quit and never came back. There is zero doubt in my mind that countless new players hopped into Shitmandy, the most popular campaign, and instantly got obliterated and quit on the spot.

It takes a lot of mental wherewithal to start a match and be instantly killed by dozens of troops falling from the sky and go "hm I will keep trying this game".

>No one cares about your ego self service on an anonymous image board dude
I care, and that's enough.

Playing as the Japanese at every BR is HORRIBLE. Not because they are weak, but because Enlisted has become a bizarre alt-history game where the Japanese are an aggressive, numerically and technologically superior force that is hunting island-hopping Americans who hide in treelines and trenches for weeks at a time, waiting for a moment to fire a single bullet then run away, or to suicide bomb their targets. Matches just become mad rushes onto the point when you play as the Attackers, hoping your squad doesn't get ripped apart by the tanks, snipers or machine gunners hiding in the hills/trees 200 meters away. American teams largely abandon the point as soon as possible, then fall back to comfortable sniping positions, or get into planes. When you play as Defenders, the Americans don't DO anything. They just snipe, and you kinda hop around waiting for them! It's not a good time.

>>535388109
>There is zero doubt in my mind
So nothing to back it up then. The game has grown inexorably since then, and whatever tiny amount of players that maybe got filtered at the apex of the para event have been more than offset by para premium sales too. Insane damage my ass
>broke the game when they first came out
>a week later it's back to normal

>I care
Cool, you being epicly correct in every prediction you make does not mean there isn't a cacophony of doom posting accompanying every seemingly powerful thing that gets added, buffed, or brought back. Good to know we have a perfectly clairvoyant Enlistradamus ITT though, sucks that he's predicting the type 100 will kill this game entirely

>>535401785
>sucks that he's predicting the type 100 will kill this game entirely
Doing irreparable, massive damage to player retention and the experiences of vast waves of new players isn't "killing the game entirely". It's just a gigantic clusterfuck. If tomorrow, say, the PPSh-41, in its prior state with 0.21 spread, were moved to BR I, that would ALSO cause a gigantic influx of people to spam BR I and absolutely ruin the first match experiences of vast, vast swathes of players.

For thousands of people, the longer this goes on, their first experience of Ensharted will be spawning in and being raped repeatedly while unable to fight back against what is, undeniably, the single strongest gun in the game, tier for tier. It's not even a premium, either, so EVERYBODY has it!

>So nothing to back it up then. The game has grown inexorably since then, and whatever tiny amount of players that maybe got filtered at the apex of the para event have been more than offset by para premium sales too
Enlisted has been on the verge of death, repeatedly, thanks to blunders like this and the Para patch. Entire campaigns abandoned due to poor balance and poor new player experiences prior to the merge. You can plug your ears, but player retention and turnover matter a LOT to free to play games, and Enlisted already has an awful, overwhelming new player experience, which is being made horrifically worse by the Type 100 Death Blaster.