>>149100098 (OP)Because it sucks and is a dumb idea
I am positively surprised that people seem to be aware of that
i literally have no idea where its being held
england?
shit teams
shit stadiums
shit meme mickey mouse cup
>nooooo let's not have the current English, Italian, and Spanish champions participate ok?!?!?!
fuck Ceferin and fuck Infantino
The only matches with decent prices are meme ones like Ulsan HD vs Mamelodi Sundowns, but who wants to watch that in the USA?
>>149100098 (OP)dude CL but with more steps
good.
while it's not surprising that all the teams are happy to take millions of blood money, the fans have no such incentive.
>>149100098 (OP)Its literally the most important international sporting event for sudacas right now. Its only you europeans who are soulless.
>>149100846The season has ended, players just want to be home with their families. WC and Euro are the only summer tournaments that matter.
>>149100859>boo hoo what about the poor multi-millionairesnobody cares. perhaps a regular office job would be less demanding for them?
Intercontinental cup had more soul than this, just bring that back
>>149100859Are you a player? What the fuck do I care how tired they are, lmaooo
>>149100889It still exists and will still happen every year. The Club World Cup is just a different tournament.
>>149100098 (OP)Spunds like thr ronaldo press machine is at work again
the whole thing has been financed by saudi because europeans don't care and south americans are too poor so maybe saudi can fund the ticket sales and let everyone in for free
>>149100157or the Portuguese champions, or the Austrian Champions, or the Australian champions, or the MLS champions, or the Japanese champions
probably missing others too but I don't follow camel leagues
Too many teams in it also
this
>>149100961
>>149100098 (OP)I thought messi would always sell out the stadium?
>>149100955Jews should fund it. Tkd if they don't.
>qualification based on "coefficient"
yeah i wonder why no one cares
>>149100098 (OP)Because the huge retards decided to host the tournament in the US.
If there's already little interest in the CWC, and little interest in soccer int he US, imagine combining the two.
Not even Europeans know half of the clubs that are taking part in this shit, imagine Americans.
>>149100846Yes, but the FIFA idiots didn't host this in South America.
>>149100098 (OP)Because it's in America.
>Citizens don't give a shit about soccer.>Foreigners won't come because they'll get deported>We're in the middle of a civil war in our most populated state
>>149101606Damn lol, I follow soccer every week (Liverpool) for eleven years and this is the first I hear of this shitty ass tournament being in my country. Still remember the highlights of Liverpool winning it over Flamingo or something years ago, but that was in Brazil I think.
and fuckin trump already scaring off all the foreign pussy that's supposed to come here next summer, spent all this time getting in shape for nothing
>>149101659The old CWC/Intercontinental cup was a short supercup between the champions of each continent, and that tournament makes enough sense to keep around under its old name.
The current big tournament the CWC name refers to from now on is retarded (for reasons I mentioned before), corrupt (for the way it chose some clubs at last minute) and shite (for plenty of other reasons).
>>149101748>spent all this time getting in shape for nothingIt's never bad to get in shape.
>>149100846God you're a fucking retard
Where can I even watch it in the UK? If it's not on free to air TV or free on youtube I'm not bothering
>>149100098 (OP)euros don't care, sudacas aren't retarded to visit USA during this time and the rest simple don't care about football. Again, hosting a football even in a nation who doesn't enjoy football is fucking retarded
This glorified summer camp tournament is being held on a country that
>has 0 football/soccer interest
>is a bitch to enter unless you're European or Chilean
I don't have any doubts the World Cup will end the same way
>>149100098 (OP)No one in my country knows this shit is happening kek
>>149101800He's right, what's he supposed to be coping about?
>>149100098 (OP)Arent most people banned from entering usa?? Like from the coutries's team
>>149100098 (OP)Anyone interested in this event is too scared to go outside for an extended period of time, now that I think about it this might as well be one big ICE honeypot
>>149100098 (OP)Two thirds of the teams are garbage
Games are played in the US, where the only ones who watch "soccer" are currently getting deported by ICE
>>149100098 (OP)Do an off-season tournament in the most tourist dangerous country in the world
>>149100098 (OP)$700 for the flight (6 months ago when I wanted to plan they actually wanted 1200 for Economy to any larger airport) + $200-300 per positioning flight to see matches, Hotel/Motels of the utter shit category start at $120 (6 month ago even a gutter Motel in KC wanted $390 per night) $350 for cheapest tickets to a random group stage game to watch Fluminense - Dortmund and for a half final or final ticket the greedy niggers charged $950 for a shit ticket.
I looked at a $20k trip just to watch shitty footy and said no fucking way.
>>149102224Who were you planning to support if you went there?
I will always despise Sao Paulo FC
>>149102237Bayern, I was born in Munich so there's that but would be open to watch any match I can get too if the prices weren't that insane.
>>149102040>>149102045>>149102086ICE raid at the stadium be like
>b-b-b-but muh Vardrid has 15 Champions!! Nooooooo!!!
>>149100098 (OP)>Fans have enjoyed a complete season of different leagues and are exhausted>Fans have enjoyed the peak of football in this season aka UEFA Champions League Final>Most of them are used to attend some friendlies on July and unironically (because americans) a lot of the people who bought tickets might have thought itโs the actual World Cup. >ICE raids>Free streaming on DAZN
Everyone except the retards in charge knew this was a bad idea. The old club world cup got shit done fast, in a way that many clubs preferred. It was a meme cup, but it didn't bother much in december. Killing the confederations cup for this was always retarded.
As much as the confetti cup was also a meme, it was at least a nice way to test the host country
>>149100098 (OP)Year round football is bad, it's only gonna create fatigue and kill the sport in the long run. Football needs a break otherwise people will get tired of it. (maybe that's the plan so more people can get into american sports and Infantino is an american plant)
>>149102247Oh ok. I was surprised since no Swiss teams are going and I couldn't imagine even considering going there to support a non-local team, even before thinking about budgets.
Your post is the perfect example of how nothing about this tournament works. Europeans have little incentive to care, let alone go, to watch/support their club play against lesser known clubs when you already get to see that every season multiple times a week, locally, at better prices.
South Americans, Asians, Africans, etc. might be more interested to see their local team get smashed by Bayern, but the vast majority will be priced out and/or unable to enter the US.
And Americans obviously don't care.
>>149102278>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3T1g4UIgfs>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYnlJi4t8goFlorentino won
lol even the nosebleeds are $150 nobody is paying that for Al Ahly
>>149102286Yeah for anyone that doesn't follow one of the teams or is just a footy fan it's not worth it then you look at the prices and say hell no.
Even with the cut ticket and travel prices it's still a $5k trip I can't commit to anymore.
Oh well I hope they learn their lesson from it, the format has potential but not like that.
>>149102337they slashed it to $70 which is still $65 too expensive
how arrogant do you have to be to think you could magic up interest for a tournament from nothing within a year or two.
>b.b..b..b.but it's big teams playing
yeh, they play each other in the summer every year. they're called "pre-season bullshit friendly tournaments". we'll treat them as such. there's only so much "relevance" to go around; the nations league pushed its luck. this is a step beyond even the most autistic of people
The Madrid - AL Hilal upper deck has prices of $400 dooping mental
>>149102376>yeh, they play each other in the summer every year. they're called "pre-season bullshit friendly tournaments". Exactly. Remember this shit?
Lets be honest I think Infantino knew this was going to fail:
>Too many teams
>CWC has never been a tournament with good fan attendance. The Arab World Cup has more fans than the last CWC
>Not every fan wants to pay $350 to watch their team play some minnows.
What ever happened to the Confederations Cup. That cup made sense because it was a prelude to the World Cup the year following. Fan interest was always popular there
nobody cares about the groups but the knockout rounds will be like a mini champions league, i think people will watch. boring summer and nothing going on and all
i work in bank transactions, and DAZN unironically requested all banks in the country to not make any system changes during the CWC to prevent disruptions, because they expect a high load due to the โpopularityโ. every single bank told DAZN to fuck off kek.
>>149102468What kind of system changes are you talking about?
>>149102545the infrastructure, front and backend. they requested no changes for the entire month.
>>149102545Basically no maintenance and shit lest they stop some sheckels from flowing their way by accident.
Iโm not paying more than 40$ for a stadium seat, big man.
>>149100098 (OP)1. It's being held in the USA so nobody cares.
2. Nobody cares about the teams beyond the european and sudaca ones
>>149102581(frontend) It's like someone had in mind to use selenium to create a successful user increase.
Can we just admit there's too much football going on. I didn't sign up for another tournament right after the CL final, as a national team tournament is going on, nay two national team tournaments at the same time. And 80% of players and managers playing for another side next year. Clubs are meaningless in this system. And young fans get it and just support one of the top 10 players, no matter which club they play for.
>>149102632Please watch our league.
>>149102842I do! You let me watch all the matches for free on YT so thanks for that.
>>149103975wait really?
what's the channel?
>>149101659>but that was in Brazil I think.it was in qatar
>>149100098 (OP)If it was in Brazil even Mamalodi Sundowns vs Pyramid FC would be sold out
>>149100098 (OP)nobody's paying NFL ticket prices for WNBA levels of entertainment
>>149102842QRD on J-League?
Who are the good and bad guys?
Who copes and who seethes?
>>149100098 (OP)The only thing that matters is getting more sponsors betting money (aka TV rights) and create more betting events (games).
Empty stadium seats are meaningless
People are burned out after a full and long season. The few weeks of no footie are a bliss. Canโt imagine the players and staff are excited for this.
>>149100846Its important for you because euro teams are in it
Its unimportant for euro teams because its littered with non-euro shitters
its only unimportant for the top 8 euro clubs, thats it. Even Benfica and Porto seem to like it. The world doesn't revolve around the top 10 most powerful UEFA clubs.
>>149100098 (OP)I genuinely hope it completely flops
>>149102842I miss the start every year
>>149100111this is it
and it's because it's globalist. they had to expand because of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall but it meant trying to branch out into a market so wide that it can't possible appeal any individual. there are things the burgeoning middle classes of shanghai lagos and kuala lumpur have in common but those things are exceedingly superficial . it works in dubai. it works in first class airport lounges and bulgari stores. you won't find it in sport. Even the american sports are discovering that and they've been appealing the single largest market on the planet for decades now. viewership is down. and the only bringing it all together is gambling. money is like salt water. it corrodes culture until there's nothing left but money and you will drown in it
>>149101795channel 5 would you believe
>>149100098 (OP)Why would people travel from South America or Europe go to USA for this? Should have been held either in Brazil/Argentina or an European country.
Because in Europe a good number of people don't even have a team in this tournament, and the ones thst do don't want to spend money to apply for a USA visa and get accomodation and expensive tickets just to watch their club play against some Mexcrements snd Argensimians no one has ever heard of
>>149103975Pass the link, bro.
>>149100846It's soulless not to care about FIFAs brand new money grab?
>>149100846My team is not in it, why the fuck should I care about it retard ?
>>149107049This. Won't get out of bed unless its dem blades.
>>149100098 (OP)>missing 3 of the best teams of the season>next edition is in 4 yearslmao the competition was born dead
>>149104675Urawa Red Diamonds is the most popular club. Located in Saitama, it's the most successful club internationally and in domestic cups, but falls behind on league titles. It's also the only Japanese club present in this year's CWC.
Kashima Antlers is the second most popular club. Located in Ibaraki, it's jointly with Hiroshima Sanfrecce the most successful club in league titles, and also has one AFC CL title. Together with Yokohama F. Marinos, they're the only 2 clubs to have never been relegated to J2.
Kawasaki Frontale is the third most popular club in the country, but had never won anything and had developed a reputation as huge chokers. However, they finally lost their league virginity in 2017 and have become decently successful since.
Yokohama F. Marinos as mentioned is one of the last two clubs to have never been relegated, but it seems this is coming to an end this season, as they're dead last halfway through. They're the second most successful club in the Emperor's cup, after Urawa.
Tokyo Verdy used to go by Verdy Kawasaki and was perhaps the most successful club in the greater Tokyo area, but it struggled with lack of support as the Kawasaki population mostly supports Frontale instead, so they moved to the suburbs within Tokyo proper and renamed. Moreover its owner (Yomiuri newspaper) faced financial struggles and pulled funding, so it entered a period of crisis and relegation. It came back to J1 recently and is currently a mid-table team.
Sanfrecce Hiroshima is tied in league titles with Kashima Antlers as mentioned. They also have a reputation of being really clumsy. They broke the original J league trophy (which was made of glass), and in one occasion they forgot the team's t-shirts, so they had to literally borrow replica t-shirts from fans to play lmao.
Gamba Osaka is the biggest club in Kansai. They will forever remind you of the time the scored 3 goals against peak ManUtd in '08 (Ronaldo was playing). They lost that match by the way.
This kind of format is probably only possible with the World Cup, i think even in countries that football is realy popular a lot of those games would be low in attendance.
Hopefuly sp embraces the CWC so i can at least spend my days reading your shitposts about it
Nobody cares about it, this is just FIFA jealous of how much money the CL brings into UEFA and they want a slice of the pie
>>149102842For me, it's FAGiano
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>>149102842who's the bokita of japan?
>>149106869>money is like salt water. it corrodes culture until there's nothing left but money and you will drown in itThis is beautifully profound. You must be broke as shit lmao
The way they set up the tournament was the dumbest shit ever. It should be current champions instead of a 4 year period type of shit.
>>149108574Based, seems rural country clubs are more successful than big city ones
>>149100098 (OP)murrikan prices are fucking insane, like 10X more than actual CL prices
>>149110710Rural is relative, the most successful clubs are within what's still considered the suburbs of the greater Tokyo area at its broadest definition (which is huge). But yes, there's no successful team located in downtown Tokyo.
wasn't this shit like 8 teams. why the fuck would anybody want more than that.
>>149100098 (OP)but I want to see boca get gaped by fucking auckland, I can't imagine what will happen with against the other two teams
>>149100098 (OP)I'm not flying to New York to watch two games at Jersey (one of which is against a Korean club) and then flying to Miami to watch the final group stage match against Mamelodi Sundowns from South Africa.
>>149100098 (OP)also
>why does no one want to see the club world cup?because it's in the fucking goy states of israel and you can't pay me to put a foot there
What part of we donโt give a fuck about soccer do you euros refuse to understand?
>>149100846I could care less nigga
Well, >we arent playing so nvm flying to USA, why would I bother watching it on stream?
If Cuckmund or Buyern concede a funny goal I might tune it in tho, teehee
>>149100098 (OP)Just go to KO stage matches where mexican'ts will be priced out.
>>149100098 (OP)because no sane person will travel to the US as it is now. much less to watch footy. the world cup is gonna be worse
>>149100846Dont include us in your fantasy
>>149100846bro my club just lost a final and desvirgsted the smallest club in my neihborhood
I am not precisely in the mood to watch gagani miss open goals against part time australian bartenders
>>149100098 (OP)If there's a next edition I can guarantee you it will be 80% european clubs with 4 spots going to england alone
>>149100098 (OP)>plan ahead and bend your own rules to make sure the teeny tiny artentinian magician is in so you can have your EPIC Messi vs Ronaldo showdown>Ronaldo doesn't make the tournament>and just like that, the whole third world doesn't care>euros don't care because they've just finished the UCL>the asians who want to care have to deal with a lot of coefficient-based qualifying nonsense>sudacas will always care about Libertadores more than they care about life itself anyway>small clubbers the world over have absolutely no reason to care since /theirguys/ will categorically never ever make it>tournament is in the USA, the most expensive place to host a tournamentAnd all of that because FIFA was jelly of the UEFA CL revenue.
>>149117084>the asians who want to care have to deal with a lot of coefficient-based qualifying nonsenseNonsense. The AFC, CAF and Concacaf each got 4 slots, and neither of our continental "Champion's League"s had repeat winners, so none of the teams got in through coefficients.
Coefficient DEI was only used with Conmebol teams (Boca and River to be precise) and UEFA (for every team other than RM, ManCity and Chelsea).
>>149100098 (OP)It's yet another in a long line of mickey mouse cups played after full seasons in the few years specifically designed to line the pockets of a select few. It is literally the definition of soulless corporate trash.
>>149100185Hurry on sundoooooown
see what tomorroooooow briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiings
Infantino doing a fine job of carrying on the legacy of that fat kike Sepp Blatter, in that he's solely interested in how much money he can line his pockets with. Should be a coup to remove the cunt, and remove all beady eyed foreigners from FIFA in general, simple as.
we want the confederations back every 3 years.
>being held at the same time as the CONCACAF Gold Cup
It's just an abomination isn't it
>>149118103>every 3 yearsWhat? That wouldn't work and that's not how it was played.
Canโt wait for Infagtino to call it a huge success and the best thing since sliced bread regardless of nobody having tuned in
Just like he already called 2018 โthe best World Cup everโ a 1000 times before doing the same with 2022, 2026, 2030 and now already with 2034
>>149118174well, in june-july you're always up against the euro, gold cup, copa and/or sometimes the african cup.
being a 4-week club competition, you can only do it in the summer off-season anyway.
and fifa hates the continental federations anyway, so it's par for the course.
>>149118232in the same country at the same time is just baffling though
The more those top tier "elite" football matches are scheduled the less I actually watch them
Can't even bother with the UCL until the 2nd leg of the QF
>>149118266was never hosted elsewhere:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONCACAF_Gold_Cup#Results
it's not like there's a lack of venues in the US
How do you say "it's over" when you're detained by ICE for going to see a match?
>>149119637wow that's so welcoming to foreign tourists
keep being fascists, it's clearly working /s
>>149101527It's not based on the coefficient you utter fucking retard.
>>149119637It's all so fake. Got diverted walking down the street last night because these fucking protesters and the army of cops surrounding them.
Pissed me off. Got a beer and occupied Wall Street. The great irony, sitting between the NYSE and 40 Wall Street (renamed The Trump Building) drinking a Tall Boy, not a cop in sight, not a security guard in sight.
They raided a Home Depot parking lot in the mid-afternoon in one of those pocket communities within LA that has a small city government but is technically close to a lot of LA. Republican donors all want immigrant labor, even Elon Musk at his peak crazy is like "But don't take my Indian Programmers" you think the food industry and all those famers with swaths of land want to figure out how to get drunks and college kids to move out to nowhere and pick crops? Or do you think they lean on La Migra to keep their farms harvesting.
>>149100098 (OP)>Be soulless artificial money-grubbing 'contest' no-one gaf about>Be held in soulless artificial money-grubbing land in which no-one gaf about the Sport in general eitherGee, why isn't FIFAs new cash wheeze a Gret Success, spee?
>>149119698>No FranceI get into Manhattan and it's the Lingua Franca right now.
This is more just "Central Europe is hitting the upcoming recession harder than the UK and Sweden", "Spain saw a general tourism backlash last year" people aren't making 2 week vacation judgements based off of who the president is, especially in countries that have the same political bullshit as the United States.
Donald Trump isn't going to eat you if you go to New York. Ron Desantis isn't gonna have cops outside Disney punching European Homosexuals. Riot Police aren't gonna hit the Sunset Strip and Rodeo Drive.
The Club World Cup fails everywhere it goes. It's an offseason tournament featuring European C Teams, Sudaca B Teams and African, Asian and American Teams stripped of international stars and expensive players.
It's even less relevant as an offseason tournament.
>>149100098 (OP)It feels like a longer Audi cup. Somehow in ny we ended up with porto, fluminense, al ahly and dortmund games. Tickets are 30 bucks so I might just go for the hell of it but these games are gonna be empty
>>149121335Nobody wants to come here, and even when they do they have zero interest in going anywhere outside a major city that hates Trump.
>>149121966>be in the same country, at the same time, as Wydad v Al-Ain.>not goinganon, FIFA is disappoint.
>>149100098 (OP)FlamengoBros. We move
>>149121966>>149121978You'll be able to park right beside the entrance with only 15,000 rattling around that.
>>149100111USA
Mainly on the east coast but there's some games in Seattle and Pasadena
lol none of the big tv companies bought the rights in Sweden so some foreign streaming service will show it for free
>>149122534they would have streamed it anyway, as DAZN bought the global rights for it.
they are sublicensing in several countries, i.e. bayern and dortmund-games in germany (and maybe some games from the knock-out stage, no idea)
>>149100111FIFA wants the USAians to consom football.
This is just yet another attempt to introduce them to it.
I won't really work because I doubt many if any Europeans will be traveling there to watch it.
And if we aren't traveling there, you just know the atmosphere will be shitty.
It will be a mess, and most games will have empty stands.
>>149123873football will never have mainstream appeal in the US and Canada
FIFA just needs to strengthen their position in conquerable markets (i.e. africa and the middle east)
>>149123914I think it can be done in some Asian countries aswell.
>>149123923I agree
maybe not China but the rest of southeast asia can imho
This shit is expensive. I'm not paying $200 bucks for fucking tickets
>>149102842I root for all Hiroshima teams! Go fighting Carps!
>>149102842I played Yokohama FC Career Mode on FIFA once, soulful kit.
>>149121112The externalities of having foreign cheap work while being a democracy are bigger than the benefits. If you want mexicans to remain there just allow yanks to formally enslave them.
>>149123873also, it's every 4 years, it won't have any lasting effect of amerifat audiences
>>149123914you just posted dumb shit, first everybody in africa and the middle east that is able already watches footy, second 4 yanks watching 10 minutes of a match generates more money than all of those useless shitholes combined
>>149102842>Marinos (Sailors)>Cerezo (Cherry Tree)>Avispa (Wasp)Spics on Japan?
>>149100098 (OP)It's a meme tournament, only thirdies give a shit about it. Utterly meritless 'competition' that just extends the season so a bunch of faggots can get their kickbacks.
>>149100098 (OP)because it hosted in a shithole called america
>>149100846who? i didn't even know this shit was a thing a week ago
looking forward to Wydad AC v Al Ain lads?
I just realised the Gold Cup and CWC will be played at the same time lmao
>>149100098 (OP)All Madrid group stage games are sold out though?
It's just that nobody wants to see shit clubs like Inter Miami
>>149100098 (OP)us$350 to see Inter Miami - Al-Ahly, FIFA is retarded
>>149106764>Porto seems to like itNo wonder, our high performance during the previous presidency came at a cost, and the current one is now trying to fix the gigantic financial black hole they were hiding this whole time. With the prize amounts that are in play, any income is good income.
But in any case, the current Porto squad is the worst in the last 40 years, if Palmeiras doesn't top our group it might as well just be a humiliation to them. I think we might still grab second place though, I don't see Al Ahly making much of a dent, and even less Inter Miami.
>>149130174If only you knew how bad it is. They're now only selling seats in view of the TV cameras, general public ticket prices are now going for as low as $50, and last I heard they're trying to offer Miami-Dade students a deal of $20 for a 5-ticket pack.
>>149106869>money is like salt water. it corrodes culture until there's nothing left but money and you will drown in itWell said, USA is the biggest example too
>>149134590Wait a minute, I knew they were offering students of some college in the county tickets but MIAMI-DADE?! Holy shit FIFA is fucking COOKED if itโs at that point. Dade is a college your high school teacher warns you about when youโre slacking off in class, that place is for retards. If they werenโt as desperate, theyโd be going for Florida International or the University of Miami.
>>149136455No idea on that. Is Miami-Dade the closest to the stadium? That could be a deciding factor.
>>149136799Dade north is
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>>149136799FIFA has partnered with Miami Dade College to offer students discounted tickets for the FIFA Club World Cup, including the opening match featuring Lionel Messi's Inter Miami. Students can purchase one ticket for $20, with the option to receive up to four additional tickets for free, effectively reducing the cost to $4 per ticket. This initiative aims to boost attendance for the event, which has seen lower-than-expected interest. The promotion is available to students who can verify their enrollment at the college.
TOP FUCKING KEK
Miami-Dade College: Functioning retards and working adults
Florida International: commuter public state university
University of Miami: rich private chad and stacey school
t. FIU Panther
>>149137268>Students can purchase one ticket for $20, with the option to receive up to four additional tickets for free, effectively reducing the cost to $4 per ticket.why even charge anything at that point
>>149137332Just spitballing a theory here, but maybe because then they'd be classed as "gifts" or "benefits", and since it involves a large education institution, anti-corruption agencies would have a field day going over any potential conflict of interests with a fine comb, which would be ironic anyway since this is fucking corruption central FIFA we're talking about
>>149137450This is Florida, the governor is already waging war on education institutions and his own corruption scandal