>>149143535 (OP)All this sweet, sweet delicious seething and coping about us
We won in 1954, and it was fair
We won in 1974, and it was fair
We won in 1990, and it was fair
We won in 2014, and it was fair
People pretend 1954 was some meme miracle story because Germany hadn't been on the international stage for 16 years. Fritz Walter for example could hang with Puskas and Kocsis (both ethnic Germans btw), but how could anybody on the world stage have known him before 1954? Pretending that Germany was definitely doped while Hungary was definitely clean is ridiculous. And even if, FIFA didn't come up with anti-doping guidelines and controls until 1966
1974 is similar. Casuals dickride the (undoubtedly great) Dutch team, but forget that Germany had a ridiculously stacked squad themselves. There's also cope about the equalizing penalty being soft, but likewise, you could point out that Müller scored a third goal that was wrongly disallowed for offside. Germany had absolutely dominated the 1972 Euros, but the Netherlands did have the more revolutionary tactic and could have won if they hadn't been too cocky
1990 is always coped about because it was a shit final in total, but it's not the German team's fault that no one could beat them. The penalty was soft, but there were one or two other debatable situations that also could have been called. Germany clearly proved superior to Argentina on that day
2014 was clean from the start, and Argies complaining about murderball is hilariously ironic as they spent all the game crippling Schweinsteiger and Kramer. Neuer on Higuain was clean - what chance did Higuain have to reach the ball? None. Neuer struck it first, it was a clear situation of necessity, Higuain must have heard him coming. Neuer's position is standard goalkeeper procedure for protection, everyone with goalkeeping experience knows that
You must be a massive retard to seriously believe Germany got any sympathies and structural advantages handed to them after WW2