Thread 149266687

why can't we beat sudaka teams?
did we overestimate our strength and underestimate them?
I'm getting tired of these lame excuses, like the pitch is too dry, grass too short, weather too hot, you name it
it's not like we are sending our B-squads either, our best teams are not able to beat South American clubs
this is getting very embarrassing considering we have been buying their best players for decades

>>149266687 (OP)
>we
Sorry, we here at the Premier League™ actually won our game and do not associate with shitters from Germany, Italy and Portugal.

>>149266695
You didn't play sudaca teams yet thoughever

>>149266695
He's talking about clubs, not multi-billion American corporations

>>149266687 (OP)

brasileirao is as competitive as the championship in england, but with a higher budget, where the mid-tier have higher budgets than average la liga/bundes

I think only the prem has more budget per team on average

European footie leagues suck

>>149266728
So why couldn't Palmeiras beat Porto?

>>149266728
>I think only the prem has more budget per team on average
that can't be true..can it?

>>149266728
I think La Liga and Serie A have more money if you get the median as well. (the average may push even Ligue 1 and others above)
We forget because La Liga is less balanced, but teams like Sevilla tend to be very good. Barça, Real and generally Atleti are just way more expensive.

>>149266764
Honestly Palmeiras played a better game, could be better at finalizing, but Porto's goalie was fantastic that day and saved the team

>>149266824
Nobody here watches football bro

>>149266764
Porto parked the bus after a few minutes

>>149266781

average brasileirao revenue per club is 50-60million euros
la liga is 30million
you guys have extremely concentrated tournaments in two to three teams… so you end up having a bunch of farmer leagues

if brasileirao reduced the number of relegation spots from 4 to 2 it’d increase competitiveness even more (and allow for longer projects and less chaos)

the only advantage euro leagues have over sudaca is your organisation and oil money, they’d wipe the floor if they organised it better (dont even need the oil money, fan support would carry it)

>>149266824
I only watched the highlights. I saw Porto having quite a few chances as well and the statistics aren't disparate. Palmeiras had 10% more possession and they had 40% of their shots on target compared to Porto which had 30%.
Porto is really weak this season despite the memes, they were facing bankruptcy with only €8000 left in their account. The Porto goalkeeper was great, yes but it wasn't even Diogo Costa.
Palmeiras is supposed to be one of the best teams in SA but they couldn't score. The same thing happened with Fluminense against Dortmund which was actually way superior but they still couldn't score.

>>149266902

porto and palmeiras have on average the same budget so it isnt surprising
brasileirao is at the same level of 2nd tier of europe
only the oil money tier clubs are better
the difference is they probably have 8-10 clubs at this level in the same championship (see sao paulo and corinthians who have similar revenue to palmeiras/flamengo and are not in there, or cruzeiro/gremio/internacional/atletico mineiro)

>>149266902
I don't remember the exact moment, but maybe it was this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlYXeevh4uM
Not saying Palmeiras wasn't at fault for not making the goal.
Fluminense is not very good rn, it's 6th in the Serie A and nobody thinks they can win anything this year, I thought Dortmund would wipe the floor with them. They played a good game, even better than Palmeiras against Porto, but lacked offensively and it costed them the game.

>>149266964

not available here in australia, do you have another link or can post as webm anon?

I know, it's so embarrassing. We care so much and think so highly of us and yet it is revealed for the entire world on the biggest and most important stage in a sovlful tournament that they not only can compete with us but are actually superior. I want to get back into our comfy little echo chamber where we are not challenged and consider us superior.

>>149266695
Fpbp
Chelsea will batter these shitters on Friday and restore UEFA pride
No need for continentals to say thank you

>>149266902
I watched the game. It was pretty even t b h tho Palm had better chances
They were playing in front of a home crowd - are mid-season not coming off a layoff and transatlantic trip - it's also the worst Porto of this millenium and it was hot and their feet hurt

>>149266976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifCyIaeldQE
0:40

The huge was is still to be seen. Real madrid, man city, psg and bayern are the ones that will show the difference between elite clubs and the rest, but this already happens in Europe. The point is that except for the obvious top clubs, the rest of Europe is full of shitters

For me, this tournament just showed how fradulent Barca's UCL run was:
>faces Benfica in the round of 16 and defeats them 4-1 in aggregate
>Benfica draws 2-2 to Boca after being down 2 goals
>faces Dortmund in the quarters and defeats them 5-3 in aggregate while losing the second leg 3-1
>Dortmund draws 0-0 to Fluminense
>faces inter in the semis and losing 7-6 in aggregate, thus conceding 7 (SEVEN) goals to the italian side
>inter draws 1-1 with Monterrey, a fucking Liga MX team
complete frauds

I stand with my global south comrades in the football revolution

>>149267191
*but not argies obvs

Kek @ this thread

>>149267181
Barça living rent free on your head

>>149266687 (OP)
>why can't we beat sudaka teams?
Because they care about the Mickey Mouse Cup while european clubs just treat it as pre-season

They are just tougher. Naturally talented.

>>149267118

it was kinda insane how palmeiras interplay sliced through porto’s defense

>>149266728
Kek. Based Commonwealth bro exposing continental European farmers leagues logic.

>>149267577
Do Europeans have a fetish for leaving in denial?
>Putin is cool bro we'll trade with him
>Continental European Farmers Leagues are not shit bro we just treat it as pre-season playing our typical XI

>>149266801

no no, its a few teams with a fuckton of cash and a lot of slurpers
serie a is more balanced than la liga or ligue 1 for sure
none of them is as balanced as the brasileirao, mostly because team support in the brasileirao is spread out (in some ways its similar to the prem), so financials even out
the problem with brasileirao is flamengo being the media’s darling and sucking up tv deals. you really need to watch out and make a proper league to break these fuckers and save brazilian footie.

Your athletes aren't that good, apart from the oil money teams, the players are just overpayed

>>149267165
barcelona, arsenal and liverpool aren't at this tournament though. i think chelsea, inter, juve and dortmund should be better than south american clubs too, even if they have drawn

>>149266687 (OP)
Euros are mad at our banter, but they should be mad at (((agents))) who are selling and getting them overpaid and overexpensive players at the same level of our mid shitters, they are getting scammed and are mad at us for exposing it

>>149268380

chelsea will lose to flamengo, mark my words here
im not even a flamengo supporter, but check their pressing stats bro

>>149266894
>average brasileirao revenue per club is 50-60million euros
>la liga is 30million
where are you getting these numbers from? the brazilian tv is like 250m a season

>>149268417
Thirdies better hope so after the post 0-0 uppitiness
Losing to the worst Chelsea since the 80s would be a disaster

>>149268436

look at revenue stats
flamengo’s annual revenue is 220m… tv deals suck in brazil, but they sell tickets way more than europe

>>149268455
Ho does that work? La liga has higher average attendance than Serie A.

>>149268528

double the amount of matches

>>149268455
la liga revenue is 5bn euros, brasilerao is 1.4bn dollars

>>149268566
It's a 38 game season. Are you counting the state championships?

>>149268618

State + brasileirao + libertadores + sudamericana + copa do brasil

end of the day they keep attendance high for much longer as clubs

>>149268641
Teams aren't playing lib and sudamericana
They play more games but it isn't double and attendances are lower on average than la liga

>>149268663

well then, do you have a better explanation?

>>149268673
I think you're probably wrong when you say top flight Brazilian clubs have a higher average revenue than La Liga

>>149267538
he's right people thought barca ere good because they btfo'd a mindbroken real madrid who btw didn't manage to beat big teams last season. then raphinha scored a miraculous hattrick against bayern in the groupstage and then people thought barca were good.

>>149268528
La liga statistics are massively skewed by barça Real Madrid and atletli
Farmers league with 2 or 4”3 super teams, like most leagues in europe

>>149266687 (OP)
Dont worry, europoors. PSG will wipe the floor with my Botafogo.

>>149266894
Based aussie.

KEEP IN MIND

KEEP IN MIND

THAT

the sudaca football leagues start in march and end in december which means that the players right now are at their full athletic potential while the european teams have finished their seasons and the players are dead. also the weather is something sudacas are used to and the pitches in america right now are as dry as women when they see me.

important to note that because the sudacas played from march to december their NTs decades ago were fresh during world cups, once again giving them an unfair advantage. now that their best players play in europe they are tired during world cup and that's why they don't perform as well as they used to in world cup.

THEY WERE FRAUDS.

>>149269188
Any sudação team would finish second in League 1 THO. We have ligue 1 shitters (payet) bench warming in cannon fodder teams

>>149269208
>would
irrelevant argument

>>149269188
damn is this true? let me ask chatgpt

>>149269222
European leagues are overrated.
2 or 3 super teams and the rest being farmer tier. This CWC proves it. In the case of France is even more pathetic bc their only big club is only big bc of Qatari money laundering.

>>149269233
chatpgt cried about the term sudacas and called your post misogynistic

>>149269244
you're posting drivel, which proves I hurt you with facts.

>>149269253
grok agrees, he tries to damage control a bit and tries to weasel out of my facts but he can only "partially" agree.

>>149269264
Name one drivel on my post THO.
Apart from PSG, ligue 1 is literal part time imams and construction workers. Same for La Liga and the Bundesliga.
Tugao doesn’t even have a super club.
EPLL is obviously the exception.

>>149269188
>march
I wish. brazilian teams start in January. That bitch Porto president was crying about end of season, but Palmeiras has already played 35 matches this year alone while Porto played 57 matches in the 24-25 season.
Botafogo last year played like 80 matches. If you look at the numbers Botafogo and Flamengo played more games in the last 12 months than all of the UEFA clubs in the CWC.
Its insane and a bad excuse for you europoors.

>>149269188
Keep in mind that “France’s” world cups were won by Africans.
And their only big teams is run by Qatari dictatorship

>>149269279
>>149269285
you're hurt.

>>149269285
OOF
HOW CAN AHMED BAGUETTE RECOVER FROM THIS?

>>149269288
Is this your argument?
Lol

>>149269293
"He" argues like a female.

>>149269293
there is no debate or argument, I posted my factual exposé. you trying to downplay other leagues just shows you can only agree with my facts. I won't even say that I "won" because I didn't win, the truth won.

>>149269271
DeepSeek disagrees with you chudlet

>>149269336
Have fun with your Qatar owned farmers league, bet you're a plastic PSG customer.

>>149269188

> le argument about full season vs half season
you their half season has almost as many matches as your full season right?
palmeiras and flamengo are well over 35+ matches

>>149269336
I posted some factual expose too.
The part where I said France wx’s were won by Africans and their only good team is owned by Qatar are all cold and hard FACTS.

>>149269364
so they're at full athletic capcacities, thanks for confirming that, european teams have played over 50 games

>>149269366
so you agreed with what I said, noted.

They're like this after a few draws. Imagine if they actually win a game? Cripes.

>>149269392

damn their physio must be really good then unlike european physios then

>>149269429
you can't read?

>>149269364
of the 10 players who played the most minutes in 2023, 8 of them play in europe. sudacas rotate more and the football is less intense

One league to rule them all
One league to charm them
One league to lead them all
And in the darkness farm them

>>149269450
And no world cup wins for the last 80 years

>>149269457
national team casuals can post next summer

>>149266687 (OP)
Based Brazilian with a German VPN

>>149266687 (OP)
False flag, heh.

>>149266687 (OP)
Lolz

>>149266687 (OP)
Lol

latinx teams keep losing lmao

I'm rooting for any team against the UEFA teams.

>>149266687 (OP)
>this is getting very embarrassing considering we have been buying their best players for decades

sad but funny

>>149266715
>what is Barcelona owned by american investors and with a stadium unironically named spotify.
Holy SEETHE.

is it true latinx teams only play the conquistadores cup for the tiny chance of being able to compete against euro teams in the mickey mouse cups?

FUCK UEFA

Top after round 1 but only on goal average :(

>>149285521
Botafogo v PSG for the tie breaker then

>>149266687 (OP)
>Botafogo against UEFA teams
>164 games, 82 wins, 38 draws, 44 defeats
>Flamengo against UEFA teams
>218 games, 108 wins, 46 draws, 64 defeats
>Fluminense against UEFA teams
>143 games, 84 wins, 30 draws, 29 defeats
>Palmeiras against UEFA teams
>103 games, 56 victories, 25 draws, 22 defeats

lmao

>>149269473
>nooooo that point is not valid because nooooooo
you can't win even importing a bunch of ngubus like france did, trully pathetic
it's never "coming home"

>>149266902
Same thing I noticed. Up until minute 70-75 it was pretty even with maybe a slight edge to Palmeiras, it's from there onward that fatigue from playing nonstop since August settled it and Palmeiras took over the game. But even more than that, what I noticed the most is how similarly Palmeiras plays compared to us, even down to the same flaws of slow, predictable plays, zero pressing from the midfield, and a lot of failed passes. 11 shot attempts at the end of the 90 minutes is a pretty good result for us all things considered. We had several league games this season with mid-tier and even low-tier teams completely shut us down not giving us an inch to move ahead, and in many of those we ended with shot attempts in the single digits, and even several entire halves with zero attempts altogether. All in all it was an improvement from our current form, not because we played any better by any means, but because Palmeiras gave us a lot more space to move around than I'm used to seeing from our league teams do to us.

>>149266902
>Fluminense
>of the best teams in SA
they were literally 5 points away from relegation last season

>>149285583
>Botafogo
Turns out UEFA SISSIES couldn't do shit against CONMEBOL CHADS before they started taking our young talents away, importing ngubus to change their demographics just to win a couple world cups and becoming a bunch of plastic clubs with unlimited oil money from their new arabic overlords.
Before that, when it was real europeans playing for the european teams, our teams would fuck them up and use the window shades as a cum rag.