Thread 149292391

lmao even,so this is what the biggest club in Poortugal has to offer, huh.

The Portugese league is CONMEBOL/MLS/Mexican league tier

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>>149292391 (OP)
Not even the biggest club in Porto.

>>149292487
Only Porto Benfica and Sporting. The rest are BR Série B tier.

>>149292391 (OP)
Porto is the 3rd best team at the end of a horrible season. The manager in charge of this horrible porto is south american.

Anyways sporting would easily win this match

>>149292391 (OP)
you just don't get it, they finished the season or something

>>149293382
So the 3rd best portuguese side loses to mls

>>149293541
All this talk from Brazilians is just bait to make tugas mad right?
You don't actually believe a post-season glorified friendly tournament where every European team is tired while South American teams are at the peak of their seasons actually matters or is being taken seriously by European teams right?

>>149293603
>Miami
>South America

>>149293603
nigga you lost to an MLS team lmao stop the excuses

>>149293603
How exactly is Poorto tired? Because they played Village teams in Poortugal?

>>149293603
I'm pretty sure every team competing is taking it serious considering the price pool, else they wouldn't bother to show up or send their B Teams.
However it is true that some teams come into it buckbroken after a full season and in the middle of a non-competitive break.
Pretty dumb that some teams are in a break and others are in peak form, also pretty dumb that the timezone and weather is such a massive liability.

>>149293786
how do you explain PSG playing its best even tho they have played same amount of games and under the same weather? sounds like skill issue and cope to me, even RM president said he wanted the title and was taking this tourny serious

>>149293816
because they can coast in their league
porto is shit but evidently this is an absurd calendar, every south american team rested in january and had a pre-season since the start of the year while european teams been playing nonstop since august last year

>>149293816
Because PSG is build different, they unironically have the best team in the world right now, that whole squad is like an FM save where you get a bunch of hard working kids with 180-200 potential ability, they're at their peak.
Plus, there is no competition against PSG in Uber Eats, so they can rotate a lot, luxury a lot of clubs around the world doesn't have else they would lose points.

>>149293846
Euro teams play 2 games a month, stop fucking acting like they're totally drained

>>149293786
>Muh off season
This is another dumb European argument. The World Cup has long been held at timeframe most fitting for Europe and they even cried like babies about the December World Cup. Now they're telling us their players forget football two weeks after their leagues end. Lol. So why are the teams playing their A teams unlike typical preseason matches.
Europeans are just exposing themselves as ignorant blind coping retards.

>>149293816
You mean the team that is 100% African?

>>149293846
>playing nonstop since august
Hahahahaha. Anyone got that gymnast cope sketch?

>>149293816
>PSG playing its best
Did you fucking watch the game against Atlético? The rhythm of play from both teams was embarrassing compared to what you'd see in the Champions League.

>>149293846
bruh you lost to the 6th team in the freakin >>>MLS<<< cup who played with legit geriatric 40yos like suarez, stop the cope

>>149293878
>You don't understand bro. Those two games we play against Arouca Village are very tough. We also have to travel like 5km three countries away to play UEFA matches against mighty teams in Belgium and Germany

porco bros why are they all ganging up on us

>>149293950
People here call Inter Miami a "country club", that's what clubs made of retired players are called.

>>149293603
Yeah bro, chill. I supported you guys like mad in the Nations League, but this is too funny. Just banter la

>>149293878
no
>>149293905
it is what it is
>>149293950
yeah it's bad, just like botafogo lost 3-0 to pacucha last year.
mexican league > brasileirao ?

>>149293977
It's the losing to an mls team that did it

>>149293603
One part is bant.
Now, it's obvious that all 4 of the biggest teams in Portugal would be fighting for the top 6 in Brazil and would not be champions.
Flamengo's team is better overall than the 4 teams in Portugal today.

>>149294105
>Flamengo's team is better overall than the 4 teams in Portugal today.
Absolutely not. Unless they brought the refs with them.

>>149294118
Do you even know Flamengo's team today?

>>149294132
Through and through.

>>149293691
yes

>>149294143
If you know the Flamengo team and you're not absolutely sure that they're better than any team in Portugal today, you literally don't know anything about football or you're acting on emotion.

>>149294118
nigger, flamengo has 3 great players (gerson, bruno and pedro) and that's it. You guys simp for a uruguayan shitter, at least have some awareness.

>>149294169
You're just deluded then.

>>149294159
Yes, the great 2025 flamengo that barely qualified in their liberta group
>but but but filipe luis only lost 3 games

>>149294198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvRZxYuxaRw

>>149294169
I'm a Vascaino and I want Flamengo to fuck off.
But Flamengo literally loses the whole team on a FIFA date, Palmeiras the same thing.

>>149294019
So no?

>>149294228
That is not relevant.
if i could buy a player from rio teams it would 100% be rayan btw.

>>149294224
You know that the final of the Libertadores was on Sunday and this match was on Wednesday, right?
Literally playing a final on Sunday, travelling to the Middle East to play on Wednesday against a team that had been preparing for a month.

>>149294272
Yes, that's relevant.
Pepe wouldn't even walk through the doors of Palmeiras or Flamengo today.

>>149294276
This is somehow valid but saying European teams are tired after an entire season is not.

>>149294228
>But Flamengo literally loses the whole team on a FIFA date
what does this mean

>>149294298
You had an entire month resting since it

>>149294276
>the calendar is important
no shit sherlock

>>149294298
It would be ok it if our team didn't play ridiculously on Wednesdays and Sundays every week.

>>149294316
This means that half of Flamengo's squad are starters in the best South American teams, including Brazil.
Only a madman today would choose Di Maria over Plata, for example. At the moment Plata is the best player anywhere in the world except Rosario in Argentina.

o nanico real madrid seria rebaixado no poderoso sauditão kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
não passaria nem série b do brasiu kkkkkkkk

>>149294276
lucas why do you have such a bad memory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1-JFDQmNp8

>>149294276
another one lucas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY5E7wwGNO0
mexican teams are brasileirao father

>>149294400
We're getting the chance to see systematic matches between Brazilians and Europeans.
And from other regions.
Al Hilal is one of the richest teams in the world today, and any Portuguese team is worse than Al Hilal today, and they're probably better than Flamengo today too.

>>149294387
>At the moment Plata is the best player anywhere in the world except Rosario in Argentina.
ahahahahah
Plata couldn't even get play time at Sporting, that's how good he was.

>>149294387
The European teams who play continental competitions also play twice a week. The overall difference with South Americans is probably like 10 games a calendar year.

>>149294032
Liga MX was always considered equal to ours, nobody ever doubted or complained about it, in fact we are the biggest advocates for them coming back to libertadores as full members, is the rest of sudacas who don't like them, you are fighting the wrong guys lol

>>149294446
They count their shitty pre season games as official, that's really it.
>muh estaduais

>>149294446
Lmao.
Brazilian clubs play.
State championship
National championship
National cup
Continental championship.
Brs play much more matches than pt clubs

>>149294490
false, you count pre-season games as official, that's all there is to it.

>>149294490
>State championship
The ones where they field youth teams? lol

>>149294159
>He thinks Flamengo is better than Sporting
kek name 1 shitzilian league player better than Gyokeres

The Protuguese haven't realised that Europe's second tier and their league are on the same level as the rest of the world. And not the Brazilian league, which is much better than the rest of the planet and Europe.
Today, if Flamengo, Palmeiras, River or any team from Europe's second tier plays badly against any of the best teams in Mexico, the best teams in the USA or the best teams in Africa, they literally lose.

>>149293603
>tired
both conmebol and uefa teams come from 2-4 weeks of no play though

>>149294618
Memphis Depay
But I'd pick Arrascaeta 11 times out of 10 between Memphis and Arrascaeta.

>>149294561
Not at all.
State championships are official competitions, recognised by the state federations and CBF and FiFA.
Up until the 90’s they had huge value, maybe more than the Brasileirão.

>>149294782
Not to sound like the chicano, but this whole thing sounds like a serious inferioty complex, why do you care so much about their opinion? I understand laughing at the so.ibois who get "goosebumbs" hearing "le champions anthem" being exposed as not better than everyone else, but foreigners opinions?

>>149294810
PAHAHAHAHA This monkey really named a retired player

>>149293772
Kenya chad I kneel

>>149294836
Why the inferiority complex? Any real argument on this site is inferiority complex, this has become an argument kek
I just spoke the truth.
If any team today from the second tier of Europe doesn't have a good day, or makes a mistake tactically, they'll lose to any top team from the rest of the planet.

>>149294561
Flamengo played 73 matches last year.
Benéfica only played 56.
17 matches less.
Almost half a national championship less.

>>149294878
Retired players btfod the second biggest team in Portugals history today.

>>149294272
>rayan
awareness

>>149294613
Cope

>>149293662
lol good man

>>149294898
Its an inferiority complex because you had internalized yourself that this must be the truth that any european team was better than ours, hence the "shocking" results from the actual games, in fact I wonder if the players themselves didn't internalize this and that was the reason why we still haven't won while old seasoned messi and his retirees know from their own experience that is just a game like any other

>>149294958
Yes, I see the total matches. The state ones are still played by youth players.

>>149294942
So the best player in your league is Inter Miami tier?

>>149294618
I'll name one for (almost) every team:
Flamengo - Arrascaeta
Cruzeiro - Matheus Pereira
Bragantino - Jhon Jhon
Palmeiras - Estevão
Bahia - Everton Ribeiro
Fluminense - Arias
Atlético-MG - Hulk
Botafogo - Igor Jesus
Corinthians - Garro
Grêmio - Monsalve
Vasco - Coutinho
São Paulo - Lucas Moura
Santos - Neymar
Internacional - Alan Patrick

>>149294942
History has no effect on the current state of the club.

>>149295035
Wrong.
They might play some matches with their subs or mixed sub starter but never youth teams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVH9w_WpVc4&pp=ygUVZmluYWwgZG8gY2FyaW9jYSAyMDI1

>>149294969
You've created a theory about me without even knowing my opinion.
We didn't win by losing a goal, nobody thinks about that when they miss a shot on goal. What's happened so far only exposes what I've always known and what any retard knows: Europe's second tier is on the same level as the rest of the world.
The only difference is that there's no systematic exposure for me to be able to materially affirm it, even though I've always known it.
Juventus wanted to buy Felipe Anderson and that son of a bitch plays below average in the Brazilian league. He's a hero in an Italian team playing in jeans.
This happens all the time in our football. I could give you 50 examples of bad players who became heroes in Europe, and hero players who go to sleep in Europe and wake up playing very badly in Brazil.

>>149293603
so one glorified friendly is a real competition because cristiano won it, but the "other" glorified friendly competition is worthless because one of your teams lost to an >MLS< side
lmao pick a struggle

>>149295099
Yes, they naturally played the one against one of their biggest rivals with the main squad. Not surprising. The rest are still played with youth/subs/mixed/whatever term want to use to cope. The point is that the 20+ games a season compared to Euro teams is intellectually dishonest.

>>149295054
literal whos and two retired players. If Hulk and Neymar are better than gyokeres how come not a single club in Europe wants to buy them, monkey?

>>149295118
It wasn't a theory about it you anão, it was against this argument that "the europeans haven't acknologed us as equals yet" that has been running for days now, this whole things reeks of an inferiority complex that needs validation from supposed superior people, anyone who played football and understand that marketing exists knew the whole thing was bogus

>>149295171
They don’t field youth teams in state championships at all

>>149295130
I don't give a fuck about Ronaldo or the National Team. Try again.

>>149295175
But know that he's right. Apart from Hulk and Coutinho who are playing badly today.

>>149295198
It has nothing to do with inferiority complex, but with a lack of a sense of reality.

>>149295219
How is he right? Gyokeres is one of the best strikers in the world. Literal whos playing in the jungle cant compare

>>149295217
>ronaldo
there's only one ronaldo

>>149295269
He is only good against village club in pt farmers league

>>149295290
Still didn't convince me to care.

>>149295290
if tugao is shit then what ronaldo did is more impressive, stop being 0iq

>>149295334
he won a mickey mouse cup, very impressive indeed

>>149295316
>best scorer in the nations league
>multiple goals in the Champions league
Macaco just say you don't watch football

>>149295256
One thing built upon the other, we saw super oil teams beating us at the intercontinental all years, no other kind of play against uefa, our NT being eliminated by them in wc's, their marketing used it and made people believe even a mid league like portugal was better than us because "they are more organized, they have more market value" it built in most people this idea that our leagues were inherently inferior, just look at all social media predictions pre cwc that pointed euros winning all games and laughing when journos said we would win some

>>149295387
>goals scored against Andorra, san matino, panathinakos etc

>>149293603
this, WE Porto supporters don't care about CWC, we only care about UCL (which we have no chance at all of winning and barely make to the round of 16) and Portuguese League, where we can play against Casa Pio and BoaVista. Palmeiras? Al Ahly? Messi and Inter? No, bring me CASA PIO, São Joao FC and Bacalhal SC

>>149295484
The Libertadores champions are called bota fogo. You can't be Brazilian and make fun of other countries names lmao

>>149295512
exactly, Botafogo, the team from Garrincha? puff what a joke, BRING ME CASA PIO

>>149295512
for me it's cienciano

>>149295533
>Garrincha
The guy with lopsided legs who only ever did it in picanhão?

>>149295512
Botafogo

>>149295435
Why didn't you mention the champions league stuff? Or the other nations league games? Macaco is there something you need to hide?

Mongrel complex", or alternatively "mutt complex" (Portuguese: complexo de vira-lata, lit.'street dog complex, mutt complex, stray dog complex'), is a expression that refers to a feeling of "collective inferiority complex" reportedly felt by many Brazilians when comparing Brazil and its culture to other parts of the world.

Writing in the 1950s, the playwright Nelson Rodrigues saw his countrymen as afflicted with a sense of inferiority, and he coined a phrase that Brazilians now use to describe it: "the mongrel complex". Brazil has always aspired to be taken seriously as a world power by the heavyweights, and so it pains Brazilians that world leaders could confuse their country with Bolivia, as Ronald Reagan once did, or dismiss a nation so large – it has 180 million people – as "not a serious country", as Charles de Gaulle did.

The idea that the Brazilian people are inferior to others or "degenerate" is not novel and dates back to the 19th century, when French nobleman Arthur de Gobineau visited Rio de Janeiro in 1845 and described the city's residents as "unbelievably ugly monkeys

In 1903, Lobato reveals himself to be profoundly pessimistic about the potential of the Brazilian people, by him thus defined:
>Brazil, son of inferior parents – destitute of these strongest characters that imprint an unmistakable stamp in certain individuals, such as it happens to the German, the English, grew up sadly – resulting in a worthless kind, incapable of continuing to self develop without the vivifying assistance of the blood of some original race

Aside from the mixed origin, Brazilians supposedly would suffer from the fact they live in the tropics, where the "hot and humid climate would predispose inhabitants to sloth and lust" (another thesis that was held dear at the time, geographical determinism, alleged that the true civilizations can only develop in temperate climates).

>>149295558
And in world cups
Something your country never seen

>>149295512
Dont forget the team named after a tree and Chapecoense

>>149295582
Ucl new format got teams like fucking Bucharest fc in there
Stat padding against them doesn’t count

>>149295512
>São João Baptista ([ˈsɐ̃w̃ ˈʒwɐ̃w̃ baˈtiʃ.tɐ], English: Saint John the Baptist), nicknamed Botafogo ("Spitfire"), was a Portuguese galleon built in the 16th century, around 1530, considered one of the biggest and most powerful Portuguese warships.
that stupid name it's on you guys lmao

>>149295616
Did he score against them?

>>149295616
Benfica won 4-0 against Atlético, 0-2 against Juventus in Turin, scored 4 past Barcelona. Sporting won 4-1 against Man City.
All this year, all real teams in real competitions. Not South American shitters in glorified friendlies.

>>149294414
>palmeiras
>in a world tournament
lmao

>>149295681
And the right-back took a disconcerting dribble from a Chilean who had been dismissed from Vasco.

>>149295636
>naming a club after your colonizer's BIGGEST and MOST POWERFUL warship
Supremely cucked country lmao

>>149295740
It was name by Portuguese immigrants tho

>>149295636
Why do the tugas hate themselves?

>>149295740
the team is named after a neighborhood in Rio de Janeiro (former capital of the Portuguese Empire) which was named after that guy. You guys don't learn your own history? Are you even Portuguese?
>Botafogo was named after João Pereira de Sousa Botafogo (1540–1627), who was responsible for the galleon Botafogo's artillery. Because of that, he received the nickname "Botafogo" and included it in his family name. When he went to live in Brazil, the Portuguese Crown granted him the land known today as Botafogo.

A Port supporter talking shit about Putfire

>>149295751
Monkey can you answer my question? >>149295651

>>149295789
>I’m not Portuguese because I don’t know this specific historic detail of something that happened 500 years ago in the middle of nowhere in another continent

>>149295789
This tuga is from Angola or Mozambique possibly

>>149295797
I'm a Good Stay supporter, no need to insult me.

Pior Porto da historia + europeu nao se importa com essa competição + time cansado + viajou muito + estamos voltando de ferias + era madrugada na europa + tava muito calor + a bola ta muito colorida + o anuncio de tempestade assustou os gajos

>>149295789
No one knows who the fuck that is mate. The extent to which we study Brazil is "we went there and made that shit ours".

>>149295839
+ riau madri naum passaria no campeunato saudjita

>>149295484
Wooooooooo Ohohohoooooooo!
OOOoooooh Wooooooooo!
Give me freedom
Give me Casa Pia
Give me Moreirense
Take me to Estoril
See the Arouca
Take the farm fields now

>>149295871
We are more relevant than all your country existence now, so you should start learning, tuga.

>>149295871
Do you study the part where your royal court fled to Rio and made Rio the capital of Portugal?

O que faz eles são assim?

>>149295871
now you know.
>>149295908
kek

>O que faz eles são assim?

>>149295913
Yes.

>>149293603
You lost to an MLelSoy side, you should be slaughtering them with B team academy kids

>>149295951
Tive um leve espasmo de negrice na frase. A culpa é de Portugal, que trouxe negros para cá

>>149295951
>your own king fled leaving it’s ppl behind only to establish a new capital in Rio
Country of cowards

>>149295911
>one third the gdp per capita
>more relevant
You're literally third world BRICS boy.

>>149295980
Sissy country

>>149293603
>All this talk from Brazilians is just bait to make tugas mad right?
You don't actually believe a post-season glorified friendly tournament where every European team is tired while South American teams are at the peak of their seasons actually matters or is being taken seriously by European teams right?

I love watching this spastic Porto nigger getting butthurt about the clul world cup, i wish Porto could play brazillian teams every week so that I could eternally witness this level of cope from this faggot

>>149295980
yep and then we killed those cucks

>>149296024
How many World Cup goals does Mr Gdp Per Capta have?

>>149295908
What are you doing in Kenya?

>>149295964
Such is the state of porco and I can only hope it gets worse.

>>149295980
>kings aren't the bastion of caring about its people
Colour me shocked. Don't mistake me for a monarcuck. Anyway, it was Portuguese territory. No different from fleeing to a different part of the country.

>>149296059
8 digits in the bank, that's how much.

>>149296024
Yeah, let's see whose opinion is more important in world issues, switzerland, portugal or china, russia, lmao at those meme metrics

>>149293603
What was the last time Portugal won a champions league?
The only difference between you and Greece is Cristiano Ronaldo

For me it's kuruminha

>>149296069
KEK
Ultimate cope about futebol

We are here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewW-PYbCoJ8

>>149296094
Uma delícia

for me? its pastel de nata

>>149296042
>There was no pressure at all from club management to focus on this competition who could save our nearly bankrupt team this season just by winning 4 games against supposedly inferior teams after a month of resting
Ssssure bro, I would accept this if we were talking about actual rich clubs who ironically are trying hard lol

>>149296024
>Culturally dominant
>Higher GDP
>Picked up the Portuguese language for itself and is the most important country for its evolution
>More relevant country in the media, sport and geopolitics
>Portuguese people are already constantly complaining about Brazil's disproportionate influence on Portugal
>Portuguese teams historically dependent on players born in Brazil
>5 WC

>>149296024
Now compare median age

>>149296088
>we brazilians can't retain our best players because the europeans are so much richer and just take all of them away, this is unfair
>these clubs from this really small country totally don't go through the same and are expected to compete with extremely rich and/oil state backed clubs and win the biggest club competition in the world
The Brazilian mind. Make it make sense.

>>149296126
Brazilian Portuguese is extremely funny.

>>149296353
portuguese is a lovely language. I enjoy watching football with tuga broadcasting, i wish there was more ways to enjoy it

>>149296403
I can't watch Brazilian commentary for the same reason I can't watch Spanish, the prolonged GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL is really annoying. Shut the fuck up and let me listen to the crowd celebrate.

>>149296435
yea i hate it too, been watching BR football on mute for years now. Not sure about Spanish from Spain but Hispanic countries around here are usually very chil at broadcasting

>>149296158
you are poor favela monkey

>>149296081
Would you rather live in Shitzil or Switzerland?

>>149299209
You're a chink/pajeet/sandnigger