He has a point.

True, Yuro Zoomers are being exposed to reality

>>149363293
>tf
>the league

>pre season games
>group stage

if botafogo or whatever sudaca team you like wins it we'll talk

turns out the last 20 years of sudacas teams losing to europe in the CWC doesn't count because brazil won some games that in a pre season friendly tournament

>>149363347
you forgot to say that you don't care

European tears are delicious, also the ones from Chikaner too

>>149363335
first 3 brazil world cup winning squads were all playing here

>>149363347
They lost against the best European team, the Champions League winners. Now your teams that are below that level are being exposed.

>>149363347
Last ten years.*

does sudacas actually care? how are they not embarrassed

>>149363436
When is your team playing?

>>149363347
>uefa club with 25gp wins against sudaca club with 80gp on December
This ones count, we won fair and square.
>uefa club with 60gp loses to sudaca club with 30gp on June
We're being genocided. This doesn't count.

>>149363347
Games between Brazilians and Europeans in the Intercontinental Cup in the last 20 years:
Sao Paulo 1-0 Liverpool (2005)
Internacional 1-0 Barcelona (2006)
Barcelona 4-0 Santos (2011)
Corinthians 1-0 Santos (2012)
Real Madrid 1-0 Gremio (2017)
Liverpool 0-0 Flamengo (2019)
Chelsea 1-1 Palmeiras (2021)
Man City 4-0 Fluminense (2023)

That's 3W, 2D, 3L.

And that's not even counting the dominant 1960-2005 period, when South Americans won 20 out of 32 disputes.

>>149363422
>They lost against the best European team, the Champions League winners
and this year they beat them, which tells you this tournament is a weaker level. thanks for playing

>>149363458
my team is playing 1st division, they're are not part of the cwc. Yet i can still watch the games and be part of the discussions.
and so far i've learned how much it means to south americans to tie with european club in group matches, kinda sad desu

>>149363489
Corinthians 1-0 Chelsea (2012)*

>>149363493
>Europeans are losing therefore the tournament is weaker

>>149363347
trvke, holy seething at this post

>>149363489
that's 5 losses and proves how shit the brazilian league is that they've only made the CWC final less than 50% of the time. of course they won't lose to european teams when mexican and japanese teams are knocking them out

>>149363347
Turns out that in the last 20 years, European clubs have regularly hired the best South American talents when they're young

The CWC is Literally Life or Death for latinx leagues. Domestic soccer is dying rapidly there as all zoomers watch and worship europe.
>>149362253

>>149363583
>we're poor and get cucked by europeans
sounds like a you problem lol

>>149363208 (OP)
His hat hides it well

>>149363597
Based Brasileirao watchers.

>>149363347
Yes, you nailed it.

>>149363579
3W-2D-3L normal time during their post-season. Now they are 2W-2D-0L during your post-season. Just admit UEFA is a fraud.

>south americans won their "disputes" but europeans winning in extra time didn't win their disputes
>flip flaps between brazilian and south american when it suits him

when you have to bend the rules this it's because you know you don't have an argument

>>149363971
What disputes? I'm only counting normal time since group games wouldn't have extra time to decide them.

>>149363597
>this tiktok screenshot proves my point
retarded chikaner

>>149363208 (OP)

>>149363208 (OP)
sometimes I get his youtube shorts in my feed

>>149363347
Just like Europeans winning the WC 20 years in a row, usually with an all European final and and a European team in 3rd place also didn't mean anything and Europe was immediately finished again once Argentina won. This also meant Mbappes comment had been ill-informed to begin with.

>>149363347
kek this one got them oinkin

>>149363208 (OP)
>HSVer head kino about top leagues
never gets old. eight years in the nether real broke them

>>149363347
Look at them (you)'s

>>149363347
huehue clubs are also in the middle of their seasons why euros are tired. Do retards really think a fucking south african club would be scoring 3 on Dortmund in a champions league or league game?

>>149365621
brazilian clubs had more games in the 12 months than anyone else
you know we have more games here than in europe right? also yuros had way more time to rest for this tourney because their season already ended so your argument doesn't make any sense

this dogshit tournament has been more than worth it just for all the seethe it's creating on both sides

GOAT IGOR JESUS IGOR JESUS IGOR JESUS GOAT

>>149363208 (OP)
turn offsides off in a fifa player career. you'll see why people criticised pele. He's still a top 5 player, but remove that big chunk of goals and he isn't goat contention anymore

>>149375679
3 world cups 5 consecutive brazilian championships (no team has ever won more than 3 again) when it was arguibly the hardest one in the world
the only good argument for him to not being considered the goat is that the game involved but pele was far ahead of his time than anyone else

>>149363208 (OP)
Pelé was playing against plumbers and construction workers

>>149376317
same for babe ruth but most people still consider him the goat

>>149375679
Wtf you are talking about? You think offside rules didn't exist in Pelé's time? It was even more stricter than now Nigel. Also, there was no yellow or red cards, games favored defenders a lot lmao.

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>>149375642
Chikanix spamming as a br flag
Heartwarming

>>149363208 (OP)
>1 Brazil team beats 1 European team
>the best player in the world 60 years ago was Brazilian, and this match 60 years later proved that

pele won 3 world cups
hes the goat, simple as

>>149375679
>The offside rule in football was first introduced in 1863 by the newly formed Football Association (FA).

everything before colour tv doesn't matter

>>149376810
>>149379346
did the research and realised I've been misled for decades about that fact. maradona punched a goal in the net past england though. so he's still the goat, cope and seethe pele xisters

>>149363500
*Middelfarts at you*

>>149379414
It's ok, we are all retards sometimes

>>149365881
Is there a minutes played chart? Don't the Brazilians have bigger squad and can therefore rotate more?

>>149363347
lil' Timinho went real silent after this one

>>149363208 (OP)
Never heard anyone say this. He's a "fraud" because he played during the stone age, not because he played in Brazil.

>>149379481
Shhhhh, they don’t want to you to point that out. They need to be the victims always and forever
>>149379577
I have seen some retards pretend this on here. Some people are incapable of recognizing historical league strength, they only project current conditions onto everything
The Stone Age argument is also a bit disingenuous. Sure, football wasn’t as developed back then. But that’s not Pelé‘s fault - it being as developed as it is today however is partially due to his achievements. With modern training, nutrition and gear, a reborn Pelé would probably be a huge name today. Players today aren’t more talented. It is best to view players in the context of their time, this GOAT debate is nonsense anyway

>>149379577
anyone of these stone age players would dominate the modern game, with access to modern training and nutrition they'd be even better. football is soft as shit these days

>>149363208 (OP)
It was a different tougher game in Pele’s day. Then you had to be great to be good.

globohomos are getting exposed

Pre VAR soccer is meaningless

>>149379781
plus if you had any talent back then everyone tried to break your leg
nowadays you are allowed to dive, and any tackle is a card

>>149382714
Nobody plays real football anymore. It a joke at times watching players going through the motions of playing football who can’t kick a football.

>>149363347
Yes.

>>149363208 (OP)
The problem wasn’t him in the Brazilian league but counting exhibition matches and beach matches

>>149383427
The exhibition games are tricky. It’s not like Santos and the European teams dawdled around

>>149379603
based germanposter

>>149383427
Most of the friendlies and exhibitions were against European teams in world tours that paid more than any championship in Brazil. Santos only really competed in the Libertadores in 2 editions, for instance, preferring to travel around instead.