When will the WNBA meme finally end?

>>149378501 (OP)
It won't. Americans have brainwashed into either taking it seriously or simping

>>149378501 (OP)
are you a shareholder?

>>149378501 (OP)
Women sports are aimed at a female audience, but women don't watch sports

>>149378501 (OP)
Literally never. They added a team this year and plan to add two more in 2026 and beyond.

>>149378501 (OP)
The US economy has been shaped in a way for these kind of things to never fail. Jews invest in shit like this that won't go anywhere but through speculation can print money out of thin air and keep trying to make it work.

Has it ever produced a profit?

>>149378501 (OP)
They need teams in Portland and Boston, they could use a team in Philadelphia.
They have a league where their most popular player is in fucking Indiana, probably their smallest market.
Women's basketball doesn't know and has never known how to advertise itself. It tries to do "we're real basketball" and "we're tough too" but occasionally it has also done shaming, I remember a Liberty shirt from a few years ago I saw in a vintage store that had a scornful Statue of Liberty with the line "SHOW UP!" underneath.
So none of the advertising has really clicked for key demographics (I live close enough to Barclay's Center that I see their crowds often enough)
The people who watch these games are Middle-Aged women disproportionately Slavic and black racially but not by much a lot of Lesbians, the type who like a good Irish Bar, pretty much every Irish Bar in Park Slope and the north end of Fort Greene flies a Liberty Flag and becomes a Lesbian bar.
The big one though is girl-dominated families of 4-6. And frankly their advertising is terrible for that group. Russian girls and Middle Class black girls will put up to an extent with the SHOW UP and "We're tough af" ads, but when you're a dad and mom with 3 girls between 6-12 and you want to take them to a basketball game, you don't want it to sound like it's gonna be a violent lesbian roadhouse.

>>149380162
wat

>>149379638
It's always men who go crazy for these "exceptional" female athletes. The media hypes them up and they fall for it every time. Ronda Rousy, Danica Patrick, and now this chick. Then eventually the spell wears off and they go back to not caring.

>>149381080
Nope. The last time they talked financials they said they'd lost about 250 million in total.

>>149381299
No one wants to watch women's basketball. It's not entertaining, the only reason people are paying attention now is because of the catfights.

Even male nba is just 90% gossip, if they push the reality tv angle even more I'm sure they can attract more female viewers.

>>149381299
>They have a league where their most popular player is in fucking Indiana, probably their smallest market.
Is that a problem? NFL's biggest star plays in Kansas City, it's actually a flex that WNBA is this popular while their star player plays for Indiana

>>149378501 (OP)
NBA could be an integrated sport

>>149382073
>Ronda Rousy
Haven't heard this name in years. Remember when they were trying to argue she could whip an MMA man's ass. Then got the shit kicked out of her by another woman and disappeared.

>>149388380
She went over to WWE and was doing ok for the first few matches she had but then stunk up a WM main event(like an actual final match of WM. It ended in a botch), phoned it in after, then left.

>>149388380
>Remember when they were trying to argue she could whip an MMA man's ass
Rogan said she could beat half the men in her weight class.

>>149392248
And much like her MMA career made sure everyone hated her as she left the company.

>>149379638
Women's sports are aimed at a male audience. They'd be way more successful if they actually aimed it at women. For example, Boston got a new NWSL team, and the entire marketing was centered around men's sports. Memes about men's sports, official launch was talking about Boston men's sports, male sports, male celebrities. It was unreal. It's like they don't know the only people watching the NWSL are women. I went to a Gotham game and the audience was 80+% women. It was Taylor Swift concert levels. But they keep ignoring their female audience so women don't feel like sports are for them.

>>149393417
>aimed it at women
How do you market sports to women?
>I went to a Gotham game and the audience was 80+% women
What was the total number?

>>149378501 (OP)
Hopefully soon. Any local highschool boys JV team could beat these "pros".

>>149393426
It was a friendly scrimmage, not a league game. I'd guess about 15,000.
You can start marketing a new women's soccer team to women by not exclusively talking about Tom Brady, men's American football, and men in sports the entire launch. Unrivaled was a great example of marketing at women.

>>149393457
Men's professional teams lose to teenage boys in practice regularly.

>>149378501 (OP)
you know Trump is ruining our economy when shit like "US$.." is listed to clarify our broke ass useless currency

>>149393460
Google is telling me that average attendance is less than 9k.
Also I just don't believe 80% were women out of a 15k crowd. Women almost always go to sports events with their partners, not due to the love they have for the game/competition.
>You can start marketing a new women's soccer team to women by not
Ok, but how do you actually market towards women? Be specific.

>>149393534
I just said this was not a league game.
If you have an interest in marketing women's sports, you can sign up.

>>149393544
I find it hard to believe they get almost twice the average attendance for a friendly.
>f you have an interest in marketing women's sports
Why are you dodging the question?

>>149393552
It was an international friendly. Why would it not have more than average? I didn't travel 1000 miles for a simple league game.
Why the fuck are you asking me how to market women's sports? If you were actually interested in the discussion I'd like to talk about it, but it seems like you have zero interest in women's sports other than to spend your time downplaying them. Why are you asking?

>>149393591
Cause your initial argument was:
>They'd be way more successful if they actually aimed it at women
So I asked a very simple follow-up question. How do you aim women's sports at women?

>>149393598
I already gave examples though. It seems like you're just trying to argue. I said stop talking about men's sports in your promos. Stop posting memes centered around men. Stop bringing on male athletes/celebrities to discuss the team. Do this with women instead.

>>149393646
You didn't. You said what not to do, not what to do.
I'm assuming they're bringing in male athletes because they're more famous than some random female players.

>>149379638
Pretty much. Every person I've ever met who has opined that WNBA players need to be paid more doesn't watch women's sports, including people who have competitive women's sports teams right in their own back yard. Everyone I know who follows any women's sports at all is a guy.

>>149393657
You're getting off topic. We weren't talking about who is famous. They can bring in all the male athletes they want. This further pushes aside women and forces the idea that even women's sports are for a male audience.
>You said what not to do, not what to do.
If they simply stopped centering men and went neutral, it would be 100x better. There are ways to appeal more to women like showing players' personalities and changing your language on social media to make it more peppy. But the fact they won't even go neutral, and they specifically go out of their way to make it about men and men's sports, is the major problem. It's more about what they should stop doing.

>>149393709
It's not off-topic, the topic is how to market women's sports to women. Women are generally not interested in the stats or the competitive side of sports, so IMO the only way to do it is to bring in tons of drama or increase the social aspects of coming to the stadium eg. having various social events, meetups etc.

I highly doubt bringing in some random female player to talk about how Kayla Berbrynsky from United Inter City FC had the highest pass rating in the league will result in an increased interest from women.

>>149393727
Bringing in male athletes is not going to help women see that this is for women no matter how famous he is. It has the opposite effect. Bring in a female celebrity then. And promote it more. Angel City brought in Renee Rapp last year and they had one post and maybe an instagram story about it. It would have helped if they actually made a big deal out of it but the social media team sucks.

>>149393767
Did you even read the post you replied to?

>>149393788
Yes that's why I responded.

>>149393477
SportsPro has always used "US$.." since its launch in 2008. They are based in the UK.

>>149393799
You didn't acknowledge anything I said. Your reply is completely parallel to my post.

>>149393809
We were talking about bringing famous men to talk about women's sports. Then you talked about random female players being ineffective, so I related the topic to both of those by saying they should bring in female celebrities instead.

>>149393819
To talk about what? Women don't care about the competitiveness of the sport or any of the stats.
There are women that watch KC because of Taylor Swift, but that will only last as long as she is fucking one of the players.

>>149393825
Women don't care about men's sports. They watch them for their boyfriend or Taylor or whatever. Women do care about women's sports for the actual sport because it's women playing.

>>149393830
0 stats to back this up.

>>149393833
>Women don't care about the competitiveness of the sport
0 stats to back this up.

>>149393830
I knew a single woman who liked basketball and she told me she didn't like the women's because they're "not good"

>>149393852
France doesn't even have basketball.

>>149393848
I base that on the fact that women rarely go to the matches and even more rarely do they actually play the sports as a hobby.

I've never seen two girls passing a ball around for fun in public whereas I've seen hundreds if not thousands of boys doing that.

>>149393854
If not for KD's magical run they would have won gold in Olympics anonkun.

>>149393855
I know zero girls who have never played a sport. And very few girls who are not currently playing a sport (or at least dance). Almost every girl in America plays one or mutilple sports.

>>149393867
>Almost every girl in America plays one or mutilple sports.
huwhat

>>149393862
Who? What?

>>149393870
Do you know any Americans? Almost every American child under 18, girl or boy, plays sports. You'd be hard pressed to find a girl who doesn't play sports. I'd say it's more common to find boys who hate sports and only play video games. Almost every American adult, woman or man, does not play sports because adult leagues suck and aren't as common.

>>149393854
She was portuguese

>>149393889
Basketball isn't a thing in Europe.

>>149393885
You don't have to play professionally to play a game. How many of those girls play sports outside of PE class or other school-related activities?

>>149393854
She was portuguese but we were both working in the US at the time*

>>149393891
You're an idiot

>>149393892
Every single one of them. I wasn't talking about school sports.

>>149393891
Explain Giannis, Dirk Nowitski, Joker, Donçiç, Gobert, Porzingis, Hakeem Olajuwon|though not European I just like him. Far from just them though

>>149393943
WHO?

>>149378501 (OP)
Just retarded are you "people", to think this is real and not made to look like that by design, just like Hollywood?

>>149393471
Bullshit. And certainly never to women's HS teams.

>>149393854
I remember in college I had a journalism class with two of our school's star women basketball players and even they said this when the professor brought it up.

>>149393926
Cheerleading and Pom squad aren't sports. Most girls would rather be influencers and fitness models than competitive athletes.

WNBA is social engineering, first and foremost. It's easily the most "woke" institution in modern America and continues to push it hard. That's why the league hates Caitlin Clark, she's White, pretty, heterosexual, and feminine. Everything the league hates.

The losses are a small price to pay for Jews like Adam Silver and 2/3rd of the owners.

>>149381299
Kek

>>149381299
Is that lesbian bar on 5th Avenue still around? I remember reading a few years ago that most dyke bars in the USA are long gone but that one is still kicking.

>>149379638
women watch men's sports with their bfs

>>149381694
money isn't real faggot
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional-reserve_banking

>>149378501 (OP)
When the NBA starts losing money or stops making enough money.

>>149379638
Let me know when they play in bikini

>>149378501 (OP)
Whenever their espn deal ends, like in the early 2000s it'll go away for 10-15 years and we'll try again

>>149381080
Never. Don't quote me on this but WNBA costs like $10M per NBA team or something in that ballpark. That's with most costs being subsidized as teams wouldn't be able to keep the lights on if they had to rely on their own revenue. This is why all these talk about salary gap is ridiculous. NBA players who make the literal league minimum actually earn their money while the top paid WNBA stars with their $200-250k salary are still net negative in almost all cases. (If it wasn't for Caitlin Clark I could have safely excluded he "almost" part.) As with many, many such cases the product is a major failure from business POV that they want to meme into reality as virtue signalling is a national sport around those parts.

I'm not against the existence of WNBA as a legit career option for female ballers but the dishonesty and pretense shrouding it is sickening. It is what it is at this point (see pic rel - you won't have trouble figuring out who's who in the scenario), if it wasn't for NBA's great financial success or the social (over)sensitivity of the question the owners would have plugged the plug 10 years ago at least. Fuck, I'm even okay with the League keeping them afloat in a cost-controlled way. Just always remember whatever you're getting is basically charity from those who actually earn that money. You want to make more? Seek out better options internationally or make your own league. You're still an entertainment product and not entitled to shit.

>>149381299
>The people who watch these games are Middle-Aged women disproportionately Slavic and black racially but not by much a lot of Lesbians
Adam Silver said the main audience was "older men", aka perverts.

>>149379638
I could be wrong, but I think volleyball has somewhat decent percentage of female audience.

>>149397923
henlo fellow hungarian

You don't take into calculation that the costs aren't real. All "charity" is written off from taxes, and all venues, venue staff, broadcasting, and logistics are already paid for, and otherwise would be idle, basicly renting their own venue and services back with the "charity" money as a form of tax evasion. Giving away x amount as charity, means x less tax needed to be paid, they use that x to rent things from themself, via trickery, and they get back x with only fraction of it taxed, with some new revenue generated. Add to this rigging games, to do gambling fraud, that they can get away with via registering the league as "sports entertainment".

>>149378501 (OP)
as soon as you stop making threads about

if nobody watches a wnba game, did it even happen?