Is Brasileiro Série A a Top 5 League? - /sp/ (#149427165) [Archived: 779 hours ago]

Anonymous Egypt
6/26/2025, 7:08:35 AM No.149427165
serie a
serie a
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 7:13:26 AM No.149427206
no, it's PL, Liga, WSL, Bundes and NWSL
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Anonymous Ireland
6/26/2025, 7:18:33 AM No.149427245
Sturm Graz would destroy every one of those shitters
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 7:20:46 AM No.149427259
>>149427245
Sturm Graz wouldn't resist a hot and humid evening at Aracaju
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 8:47:11 AM No.149427717
>>149427259
But no team from Aracaju plays in Serie A

>>149427165 (OP)
Only the EPL is more competitive than the Brazilian Serie A.
In any case, the top teams in the other leagues tend to be better, or so it seemed before the World Cup.
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 8:55:24 AM No.149427740
>>149427717
>implying Sturm Graz would reach Série A
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 8:57:59 AM No.149427751
>>149427740
He would make it to Serie A of the Sergipano championship.
I guess
So you are right.
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 1:57:09 PM No.149429830
>>149427165 (OP)
It is the best *league* in the world, followed by EPL

best league =/= having the best teams
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 2:11:47 PM No.149429937
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>>149427165 (OP)
Any of those teams could either be fighting to win the league or against relegation depending on what happens from year to year.
Players still dribble and try blooters, overhead kicks etc. because they haven't been raped by data-autists who only want tap ins.
It's chaotic and soulful.
Basically an even more insane version of the EPL before it got Pep'd.

Watch this video and tell me it doesn't make you fall in love with football again: https://youtu.be/TmwVh6Fl_ic?feature=shared
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 2:14:39 PM No.149429966
>>149429937
>Watch this video and tell me it doesn't make you fall in love with football again
im too racist for that but ify on the more soulful feel of some of the south american games.
i say some as im talking about the big libertadores games and the biggest domestic derbys or league deciders, the rest is absolute fucking dross
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Anonymous Kenya
6/26/2025, 2:47:10 PM No.149430184
>>149429937
White people ruined football with their spread sheet autism. Coaches self insert with muh philosophy and footballers are supposed to memorize and religiously adhere to them. Consequence is that it inflates talentless hacks like Kroos who can only play robotic ball and of course suppresses creative players.
Anonymous Australia
6/26/2025, 2:53:20 PM No.149430234
>>149429966

there’s a reason why the puskas every now and then always come from south america
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 2:57:51 PM No.149430272
>>149429937
Baseado. Here is the original author's channel btw:

https://www.youtube.com/@FutebolNacional
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Anonymous Mexico
6/26/2025, 2:58:36 PM No.149430277
The top 10 is:
Premer League
La Liga
Serie A
Bundeslige
Ligue 1
Championship
Brasileirao
Moortuguese League
Eredivisie
Argenchina

So I guess it is, barely.
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 2:58:53 PM No.149430279
>>149429937
>>149430272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaY2Cpd8uMM

TOP 50 from 2024
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:01:40 PM No.149430300
>>149430277
>Championship
>Brasileirao
Come on
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:02:32 PM No.149430308
>>149427165 (OP)
Absolutely, in the last 10 editions we had 7 different champions, where else in the world does this happen?
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Anonymous Germany
6/26/2025, 3:03:31 PM No.149430318
>>149427165 (OP)
To be top five, they need to be better than Ligue 1. That sounds doable. Perhaps not at the peak, but the balance is a big advantage. Probably depends on perspective. I don't know any Opta stat autism data stuff comparing Brasileiro to the top Euro leagues, but they can't be far away from Ligue 1 all in all
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:04:28 PM No.149430325
>>149430308
>where else in the world does this happen?
MemeLS, but it's mostly due to its commie system and playoffs.

The real difference is the amount of teams competing for the title every year
Anonymous Mexico
6/26/2025, 3:06:23 PM No.149430342
>>149430308
J1 League, MLS, Liga MX just to name a few.
>>149430300
I'm serious. The championship is insane.
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Anonymous Denmark
6/26/2025, 3:07:02 PM No.149430349
1. EPL
2. La Liga
3. Serie A (Italy)
4. Serie A (Brazil)
5. Bundes
6. Ligue 1
7. Eresdive
8. MLS
9. Saudi League
10. Liga NOS
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:07:48 PM No.149430358
>>149430342
>The championship is insane.
It's the best 2nd tier in the world, sure, but you are severely overrating it kek
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:08:48 PM No.149430368
>>149430272
This guy loves long shots too much, he always "forgets" a ton of other goals
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 3:16:38 PM No.149430436
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>>149427206
>>149427717
>>149429830
>>149430277
>>149430349
>>149430358
All wrong.
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:17:55 PM No.149430439
>>149430436
>redditor pajeet ratings
*yawn*

Eye test and common sense is all you need
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Anonymous Denmark
6/26/2025, 3:18:05 PM No.149430441
>>149430436
>Danish superliga above Eresdive
Nice jeet analysis
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 3:22:04 PM No.149430468
>>149430439
Eye test and common sense both disprove you.
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:23:04 PM No.149430476
>>149430468
Only in an english mind would the eye test of an anglo be worth more than the eye test of a brapzilain when it come to footie lmao
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 3:23:04 PM No.149430477
>>149430441
The Dutch league has been a shambles for a long time now.
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:23:07 PM No.149430478
20-30 years ago it was, now its only top 5 in corruption and bad refs. And it turned into a 2 team league like most european ones.
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Anonymous Egypt
6/26/2025, 3:23:44 PM No.149430484
how can anyone watch an average lel liga game and think it's among the best leagues? you niggas blind or something smdh
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:25:42 PM No.149430500
>>149430484
The only good domestic league in Europe is EPL, every other league is a 1 or 2 club league. And even then, the average EPL match is miserable because the power gap between the top and the rest is disgusting
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 3:26:50 PM No.149430508
>>149430476
>muh historie
This is why everyone ridicules you clowns. You think you are gods gift to football but in reality Croatia have been a much more successful NT for nearly 3 decades.
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Anonymous Lithuania
6/26/2025, 3:27:36 PM No.149430515
>>149427717
>citywinslol
>competitive
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Anonymous Spain
6/26/2025, 3:29:19 PM No.149430520
>>149430500
>every other league is a 1 or 2 club league
Do you actually think any club other than City or Liverpool is going to win the league anytime soon?
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Anonymous Denmark
6/26/2025, 3:29:20 PM No.149430521
>>149430500
I think you’re confusing the EPL with serie a
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Anonymous Germany
6/26/2025, 3:29:26 PM No.149430523
>>149430477
Ajax, PSV, and Feyenoord should still beat Kopenhagen and Midtjylland. Utrecht also did a good job this season. I wouldn't disagree with someone saying that the midtable and bottom table teams in the Danish league are equal or maybe even slightly better than their Dutch counterparts, but it's hard to imagine them being so much better that they even out the top teams and go beyond
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:29:30 PM No.149430524
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>>149430478
ah yes, the 2 team league with 4 different champions in 5 years
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:29:49 PM No.149430527
>>149430508
>still produce the most talent by quantity and quality
>average citizen knows more about footie than some pros from other countries
>most trophies in literally anything football related
>best league in the world from a competitive standpoint
>have to hear from an anglo that my league is bad cause some autistic rating said so
kek

>You think you are gods gift to football but in reality Croatia have been a much more successful NT for nearly 3 decades.
Even you don't believe in that
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:30:05 PM No.149430530
>>149430441
Probably teams like Lyngby and Horsens would beat teams like Willem II and RKC easily
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:30:50 PM No.149430533
>>149430521
Serie A is the 2nd best league, yeah.

>>149430520
EPL cycles its top teams just like our league does, so it's not really just 2
Anonymous Portugal
6/26/2025, 3:31:00 PM No.149430536
>>149427165 (OP)
no.
but the average game in brazil is very good, but their top teams are simply not very good at all.

imo it's the most fun league to watch, would be better if flamengo didn't control every other ref.
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 3:45:37 PM No.149430635
>>149430527
>quantity and qualitys
You mean before they basically become european system babbies?
>most trophies in literally anything football related
Factually incorrect, it's Argentina.
>best league in the world from a competitive standpoint
Kek
>Even you don't believe in that
Errr nope, pretty sure I do.
>have to hear from an anglo that my league is bad cause some autistic rating said so
I'm not the one displaying autism here pal.
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 3:46:45 PM No.149430643
>>149430520
Will the bear ever reach the tree again?
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 3:48:30 PM No.149430652
>>149430523
That is exactly why they are ranked ahead. If the top 3 (mainly Ajax) hadn't been shitting the bed so consistently then it would be different.
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:51:36 PM No.149430677
>>149430635
>You mean before they basically become european system babbies?
Delusional
>Factually incorrect, it's Argentina.
Nice try, I was referring to the only important trophy in the sport and its variants however
>Kek
No arguments I see, all you can do is post meaningless numbers and cope
>more cope
Seethe
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:53:12 PM No.149430694
>>149430524
Dishonest monkey, you know the league is Mengo and Palmeiras. Atlético and Botafogo were just flukes who shitted out a ton of money and almost faced bankruptcy later. Atlético was fighting relegation last year for gods sake. And both Atlético and Botafogo are literally mid-table teams right now.
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:54:55 PM No.149430711
>>149430694
You seem to ignore every year 2 or 3 other teams fight for the title. Palmolengo are just the first teams to modernize, but they are part of a cycle like any other. Just like São Paulo 20 years ago and Cruzeiro 10 years ago
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 3:56:40 PM No.149430728
>>149430677
>Delusional
Okay so explain how Brazil has become a shadow of their former selves internationally despite your numbers then?
>Nice try, I was referring to the only important trophy in the sport and its variants however
No idea what you are talking about, the confed cup? Fucking LMAO
>Kek
>No arguments I see, all you can do is >post meaningless numbers and cope
>more cope
>Seethe
Okay. *shrug*
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 3:58:03 PM No.149430741
I would say that in the 90s-00s yeah our league was top 5 and we had a lot of good players and our teams went head to head with the europeans. Nowadays I don’t think so.
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 4:02:00 PM No.149430777
>>149430728
>Okay so explain how Brazil has become a shadow of their former selves internationally despite your numbers then?
The only problem we have is CBF. The amount of talent we produce hasn't changed at all. The quality has decreased, yes.
>anglel doesn't know what a world cup is
Makes sense
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 4:09:12 PM No.149430843
>>149430777
>anglel doesn't know what a world cup is
I'm referring to your 'variants' claim. You already basically stated the WC in that very same post. Please do try and keep up with your own argument.
>The quality has decreased, yes.
That's the same for everyone except possibly France, Spain and England. The key difference here is that Brazil (by your own admission) is still producing the exported numbers. So, I ask again, how is my statement ''Delusional''?.
Here is a better question, do you think Brazil would fare better with players that predominantly play in SA?
Anonymous Panama
6/26/2025, 4:09:41 PM No.149430850
>>149430436
This is like taking the Coca Cola rankings seriously
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 4:13:05 PM No.149430884
>>149430711
“Fight” for the title by being like 10 points behind the real contenders. Lmao at Cruzeiro tho they shitted out money to win just one brasileirão which lend them to a big debt and 3 years in série B later. And you think that shit compares to Palmeiras recent dominancy. São Paulo had a nice 3 championship run but that was it now they are back to shit.
Its easy to do a time cutoff to prove a point like you said “4 different champions in the last 5 years” but I can also say that in 9 years only 3 times the winner wasn't Palmeiras or Flamengo.
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Anonymous Australia
6/26/2025, 4:18:52 PM No.149430918
do epl clubs have sovlful songs like brazilian teams have?

https://youtu.be/Sx86-18V3m8
https://youtu.be/DiKvx0gRfaQ
https://youtu.be/n9eubiXerB8
https://youtu.be/S9Um3d8pRZE

for me its fluminense's anthem
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Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 4:20:57 PM No.149430944
>>149430850
This is like pure cope
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/26/2025, 4:59:00 PM No.149431371
>>149430515
city finished 3rd
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 7:39:46 PM No.149433231
>>149430918
All the cariocas anthems are beautiful. The paulistas ones I don't like tho. Outside of Rio I like the Gremio one.
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 8:24:55 PM No.149433821
>>149430884
>>149430694
>iT WAS A FLUKE!!!!! IT WAS A HECCKING FLUKERINO!!!!!!!!! IT DIDNT COUNT!!!!!! IT WILL CONTINUE BEING PALMOLENGO!!!!!!
valeu beleza esquizola
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 8:42:58 PM No.149434061
bostilerao
bostilerao
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>>149433821
Only 2 teams winning practically every edition for almost 10 years does not constitute a balanced championship.
tem que desenhar pro macaco entender.
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 9:14:37 PM No.149434589
>>149434061
Very curious limit you put in your image anon why not include the last 20 years instead? Probably because that would show that you are a retarded babuino that is getting BTFO for the last 3 years?
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 9:31:07 PM No.149434972
>>149434589
20 years ago the brasileirão was good, but TODAY it's a two-team league. Can't argue that. No other team has the same structure as Palmengo and the tendency is only to increase the disparity. I really hope I am wrong as I hate both teams. But can you tell me other examples of such long dynasties in the brasileiro? There aren't any.
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Anonymous United States
6/26/2025, 9:33:31 PM No.149435008
>>149430436
>MLS over Liga MX
One of our midtable teams (Cruz Azul) beat the current leaders of MLS (Vancouver) 5-0 lol
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 9:41:50 PM No.149435140
>>149434972
The cycle has been going for ages, you people were saying the same fucking shit about corinthians a decade ago and sao paulo 2 decades ago
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Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 9:54:36 PM No.149435360
>>149434972
Three-team league if counting Bahia
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 9:55:50 PM No.149435377
>>149435140
I never said anything about Corinthians and São Paulo. São Paulo was three-time champion in a row and that's it. Corinthians didn't even win consecutive championships. And the runners-up were different teams each year. Since Palmengo dominance began in 2016, Flamengo or Palmeiras have been champions or runners-up every year. In addition to the financial structure they have, being the richest clubs in Brazil (and by competing in the World Cup they will become even richer, increasing the disparity). There has never been such a long and simultaneous dominance by two clubs.
Anonymous Italy
6/26/2025, 9:59:05 PM No.149435436
>>149430349
agreed
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 9:59:18 PM No.149435442
>>149430918
i miss the Globo version during goals so much. take me back bros, i cant take it anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llhvxUsG0NU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juvuxbe8SE0
Anonymous Brazil
6/26/2025, 10:17:03 PM No.149435746
>>149430515
There's no doubt that tenth place in the EPL is closer to first than any other league on the planet, but I have my doubts about the Brazilian championship.
3 years ago Atletico Paranaense were making the final of the Libertadores and today they're in Serie B.
Fluminense won the Libertadores in 2023 and finished thirteenth in the 2024 championship and were almost relegated all year.
This kind of thing doesn't happen in Europe in practically any league.
Anonymous Brazil
6/27/2025, 4:08:41 AM No.149441023
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>>149427165 (OP)
Anonymous Brazil
6/27/2025, 4:32:55 AM No.149441333
>>149430918
Those anthems were all made by the same guy. Lamartine Babo.
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Anonymous Brazil
6/27/2025, 4:40:02 AM No.149441427
>>149441333
Only the cariocas.
The anthem of Sociedade Esportiva Palmeiras was composed in 1949 by Antonio Sergi, conductor and composer of the Italian-Brazilian orchestra. Born in Italy, the musician became a naturalized Brazilian citizen and became well known for his work on the main radio stations in São Paulo - “Totó”, as he was called, was artistic director at Rádio Cruzeiro do Sul and conductor of the orchestra at Rádio Educadora Paulista, which later became Rádio Gazeta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2VPDYPqNcc
Anonymous Brazil
6/27/2025, 4:49:21 AM No.149441552
Aço
Aço
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For me, it's original arrangement of Bahia's anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd54OJmHPG0