/nfl/ General In 3-4 years, the Saints will be good again and all of you plebs will be fucking seething so laugh it up, you fucking retards, fuck all of you

NFL suspends Justin Tucker for first 10 games of 2025 season for violation of personal conduct policy

Gerry Philbin, Jets Ring of Honor member and Super Bowl champion, dies at 83

NFL news roundup: Browns release DE Ogbo Okoronkwo after two seasons

Jaguars' Brian Thomas Jr. 'not resting' after stellar rookie season; WR helping guide Travis Hunter

Ravens WR Devontez Walker looking to 'play full speed' in 2025 after limited rookie campaign

Buccaneers sign coach Todd Bowles, GM Jason Licht to multiyear contract extensions

My Steelers :)

Who let this nigga do this?

Mahomes isn't that impressive according to ANYA and CPOE which are real things to be taken seriously

>>149437235 (OP)
My Rammies :)

>>149437478
Most yards per game.
Most TDs per game.
Highest win rate among QBs in the modern era.
2nd most playoff wins of all time before turning 30.
2nd most superbowl MVPs of all time before turning 30.

He's 1st place in everything worth mentioning. He could take 2 years off and still have more total TDs than Brady did.

>>149437235 (OP)
Where do we go to copy/paste the news now that Theredzone is dead?

>>149437733
I use ESPN, but hey to each their own.

>>149437576
Only because the rules are easier now. If Peyton Manning played 2018 onwards he'd have 70 TDs a season

Kiwi once again proving he doesn't know ball

>>149437850
Erm, ackshully the rules and team's schemes literally never changed since (some arbitrary point that benefits maholmes but hurts Brady)
Here, let me post a dozen Stathead screenshots in a row!

anyway 4 > 3

Reminder that Jalen Hurts is an elite pocket passer

>>149437976
as expected from one of the whitest QBs in the league

What is a pocket passer

>>149437976
>Gayleb 70% clean pocket
wtf, bears bros told me it was his o-line's fault! How is his performance worse in the pocket than such elite QBs like: Derek Carr, Drake Maye, Tyler Huntley, Justin Fields, and Daniel Jones?

>>149438034
You're not wrong but why are you posting a webm that shows him with two free rushers in his face in under a second

>>149438064
I don't have a huge collection of Caleb fails just yet. Just wanted something real quick to show off his incompetence.
Pic related, how a real(white) QB would've handled the situation.

brees was a whiney bitch and a faggot. they literally STOPPED a game to celebrate and let the talking heads felate him audibly. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME. because he broke some faggoty record that was broken again 10 times afterwards by much better players.

>>149438147
lmao
Why do QBs suck at fighting?

>>149438209
what is that reffie doing? Throw your little yellow handkerchief...surely that will stop these egotistical roided up dudes from having a testosterone battle.

Joshyboy's always been a little bitch

>>149438285
>>149438309
>Helmet to helmet
Surprised they didn't make him sit out the rest of the game in case he got a concussion.

>>149438285
maybe he doesn't appreciate other dudes touching his ass.

>>149438321
He's not the mutt.

ooopsies....

>>149438438
bros are the rumors true?

>>149438575
Yeah, she fucks dogs.

>well past his prime
>mass rapist
>active suspension
It all checks out, so uhhh, why aren't the Browns offering Tucker 15 years 700 mil (all guaranteed)? Are they racist?

>>149437478
Is this a defense of Mahomes or a defense of ANYA and CPOE

I just want to thank you guys this off-season for not riding Mahomes dick and the incessant Brady vs mahomes like last year

>>149438684
I miss those days though. What am I gonna do with all of these webms now?

Jags should unironically break these out for their 30th anniversary season

Is it true Temujin is one of the women Tucker raped?

>>149437792
my reffies :)

>>149438877
'fraid so.

>>149438898
would be funny if he jammed his finger on the ball doing that for no reason. it's funny when reffies get hurt.

>>149438943
check out the Jets absolutely crushing this reffie

>>149438438
Why does her face look like it's melting?

>>149438994
My boy Big Ben is throwing picks and raping chicks

This is my favorite webm in my 12GB collection

>>149438147
anyone have the gif/webm of him getting rubberneck'd?

>>149438898
REFFIE WITH THE HUGE BLOCK

>>149439133
DOWN GOES HUNTER!

What's with all the Anti-Reffie propaganda

>>149439147
teams need to utilize the refs in pick plays more often

I miss the yearly Drip Bayless Prescott jersey trash canning.

I used to have it but lost it, the player's reacting It was that tatted up MLB Cassius something that played for seattle and the reffie backed into him and threw a penalty flag on him. He had the best reaction face in NFL history.

>>149439260
His brother is the superior Bayless.

How long until he ask Tom Brady for some money?

Trevor Lawrence will appear in a super bowl one day

49ers downfall

>>149439314
>$100M dollars career earning
>where did it all go?

>>149439336
is he the modern day rothlesburger?

>>149438943

>>149439314
>Heartbreaking

>>149439395
>simping this hard for the reffie so that he won't ignore the next roughing the passer penalty on your ass

>>149439378
Nah he's basically David Carr at this point. When a QB starts pressing in the pocket to get rid of the ball like he does it's pretty much over
Blame the Jags coaching staff

Ramdgers on the quest for 3,000 strikeouts

>>149437850
>>149437928
>Only because the rules are easier now
Okay so if the league is so easy why is he the only guy who is doing all these amazing things. He had the 2nd most playoff wins of all time before his 30th birthday. Josh Allen doesn't. He has 3 superbowl mvps. His peers have 1 superbowl mvp in total. And Jalen only got this because he was on a super team.

>>149439314
The 100M in career earnings is a lie. The majority of that goes towards taxes. Another huge chunk goes towards the mansion he bought. The rest then gets cut between friends, family, gold diggers, and lawsuits. It's understandable they go broke.

Mahomes only got his because he was drafted by a super team.

Matt Nagy is a terrorist

Oy Vey!

>A performer at Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl LIX halftime show in February has been arrested after holding up a Sudanese flag with the message "Sudan and Free Gaza."

>The performer, Zul-Qarnain Kwame Nantambu, 41, surrendered to authorities after an arrest warrant was obtained.

>Nantambu was booked into the Orleans Parish Justice Center on charges of resisting an officer and disturbing the peace by interruption of a lawful assembly.

>Louisiana State Police say troopers began investigating shortly after the Super Bowl and found that Nantambu "deviated from his assigned role" and disrupted the halftime show by running across the field with the flag.

>Security and law enforcement personnel ran after him, and he refused to comply with their commands to stop.

>The NFL issued the following statement regarding the arrest:

>"We take any attempt to disrupt any part of an NFL game, including the halftime show, very seriously and are pleased this individual will be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. In addition to the ongoing criminal case, the NFL banned the individual from attending any NFL games or events."

>>149439336
As a backup QB, no doubt!

>>149439476
i hope this dumb bitch got cancer and died before this past owl. God only knows how much "ball" she'd be going on about right now.

>>149439336
Burrow-esque

>>149439590
What if it was a Sri Lankan flag?

>>149439590
>Free Gaza.
>Free
Where does it say "Free" on that flag?

>>149439564
How much money did he lose for repeatedly farting in that doctor's face?

>>149439573
>Mahomes only got his because he was drafted by a super team.
Chiefs had 1 playoff win in the last 14 years before Machoes got there. To put that into context the Patriots went to two superbowls in a similar timespan before Brady got there.

>>149439577
>all the refball made the chiefs look like shit

Funny!!

>nononono the team that had four All-Pros, three future hall of famers, a hall of fame head coach and one of the best GMs in the league wasn't a super team! it was all the mahomie!
yeh man and im fucking ella purnell

Alex Smith was a pro bowler the year Mahomo got drafted btw.

>>149439577
>>149439689
Matt Nagy destroyed the Chief's offense but since they went to 3 straight superbowls and won 2 of them it's hard to fire him. I think they won in spite of him and not because of him. The 2022 and 2023 roster was identical except swap JuJu for Rice who had identical yards, yet compare Mahomes stats in those two seasons. It's night and day.

>>149439714
>You're right Mahomes had nothing to do with it hence the reason Alex Smith went to 5 of the last 6 superbowls and has the most TDs per game in NFL history, oh wait.....

>>149439782
He had just as much to do with it as Jalen Hurts did in his

Rasm

>>149439806
Mahomes has won with bad defenses and bad offenses. Jalen has only won with a stacked team on offense and defense. Brady has never won with a non-top 10 defense. There are levels to this.

sukc lol

>>149438943

>brings up brady out of nowhere
mindbroken

>>149439211

>>149439882
lol. heres a cleaner version if you want it

>>149439737
>Alex Smith was a pro bowler
I'm not a Chiefs fan so explain this to me. So Alex Smith is a pro-bowl level talent? Had prime Kelce and Tyreek? Why didn't they win superbowls?

>>149437465
god bless mike ditka

>>149439749
>stats
bruuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh stats brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

>>149439935
Alex Smith was a pro-bowler because simpletons like you see wins and think the QB is entirely responsible.

>>149437245
Remember when your Steelers went against my Chiefs. Tell me again what happened.

>my
>your
>our
>we
>us
kwab

>>149440165
Mahomes had more playoff wins than Montana by his 30th birthday.

>>149439931
as a matter of fact I do

>>149439601
L take my nigga

>>149438297
Hot damn

>>149439737
Tells you a lot that they traded him away not long after Mahomes got there. Mahomes honestly could have started his rookie season and the Chiefs would have done just as well.

>>149440178
Wow! Very impressive! Surely he has more rings then?

>>149440165
Mahomes is a backyard QB with elite physical traits who likes to sling it, you take the interceptions because you know that he's going to make a lot more amazing plays that win you games. Joe Montana is a system bitch.

>>149440165
>Pre-salary cap era rings
ISHYGDDT

>>149440326
There's a certain other QB you could bring up from the salary cap era but I wouldn't. That would be absurd seeing as Mahomes hasn't even surpassed Montana yet.

>>149440326
Montana never faced a team in the Super Bowl the caliber of the 2020 Bucs and especially not the 2024 Eagles. The AFC was a joke.

>Mahomes lost to the only good teams he's played against
really is something

>>149440355
>>149440165
Mahomes at this age has been to more superbowls than Montana and Brady combined. At this age he's #1 in playoff wins, superbowl rings, TDs, and MVPs. He's just better than Brady and Montana.

Why do you just assume that Mahomes will maintain this level of production when he's already begun to fall off? Not everyone can be elite well into their 30s and 40s like Brady was.
If we're in the business of using gay statistics that don't provide the full picture, Aaron Rodgers actually had a statistically superior regular season than Mahomes. Would Aaron Rodgers have beaten the 2024-2025 Eagles in Mahomes's stead? It's quite possible.

Statsfags lack the ability to think critically and automatically assume an elite player will maintain their elite level of production many years down the road and never consider the possibilities of severe, career altering injuries and general decline simply caused by aging. Players aren't robots.

>>149440503
Mahomes has went to 3 straight superbowls at this age and never once missed a championship round in his 20s.

Brady by contrast was struggling to consistently make it to conference championship games. Only thing Brady was doing better at this age was stat padding, but seeing how Mahomes is #1 in virtually ever stat category he feels no need to stat pad.

He has the most TDs per game in NFL history and could a season off and still have more TDs, MVPs, and rings than the next best at this age.

Brady never statpadded in garbage time in a Super Bowl. I think he wins.

>>149439446
>Kershit

>>149440552
>>149440503
Compare what Mahomes and Brady was doing at this age. Let's ignore stats.

Mahomes Won Superbowl
Mahomes Won Superbowl
Mahomes Lost Superbowl
Brady Early playoff exit
Brady Playoff exit
Brady Lost Superbowl

It's not just stats that Mahomes mogs Brady in. He mogs them in MVPs, rings, playoff wins, etc.... It's a one-sided beatdown the likes of which hasn't been seen since prime Jordan or Gretzky.

Brody was humiliated by Eli "AIEEEEEEEEEEE" Manning not once but twice
he's forever a meme
Mahomo is a manufactured gambling scriptbabby, the lowest scum of professional sports

>>149439476

anyway 4 > 3

>>149440639
Fascinating.
Now, can you explain to me why Mahomes cannot show up in the playoffs when Brady is at the stadium?
In 2018, he lost to Brady in the AFCCG.
In 2020, he lost to Brady in the Super Bowl
In 2025, he lost when Brady was commentating the Super Bowl.
For all this bluster, Mahomes is 0-2 against the "inferior" Brady in the playoffs, and 0-2 in Super Bowls that Brady participated in.
This is also old man Brady we're discussing. Prime Mahomes couldn't beat Old Man Brady!
I don't understand this rhetoric, you can't be satisfied that Mahomes is already one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, he must be THE greatest, evidence be damned. This just makes you look like an arrogant fool, your harebrained obsession with instant gratification belies a shallow, robotic mind.
7>3
2>0
3>0

>>149440823
>In 2018, he lost to Brady in the AFCCG.
Brady won a coin flip in overtime, Mahomes never touched the ball again.
>In 2020, he lost to Brady in the Super Bowl
4 starters on the oline got injured, we saw how important just one starter missing on the OL is in the last superbowl.
>In 2025, he lost when Brady was commentating the Super Bowl.
Chiefs went through 5 different starters at the left tackle position. It was so bad then ended up starting a guard at the left tackle. Belichick himself said this is more or less why they lost the superbowl.

Mahomes doesn't need an elite OL. He just needs an OL. He didn't have one in those owls.

>noooo bro please an All-Pro future Hall of Famer and a Pro Bowler on the OL isn't enough bro please he just needs more help!

>>149440823
This
Bro can't be satisfied with what most non-contrarians would put as number 2 (as a contrarian, I have him at 4, behind Montana and Rice) and brush it off with a simple "he'll get there". Dude NEEDS to have a melty every time like a toddler being told he needs to wait until him and mommy get home before they can eat the ice cream from the grocery store.

>>149440917
upon further research he had two All-Pros and another Pro Bowler. and this dumb fuck is complaining that the maGOATie didn't have an OL

>>149440920
Mahomes has never missed a championship round in his 20s unlike Brady and Montana who missed the playoffs. He's been to more superbowls than both of them combined. He's #1 in every stat at this age be it playoff wins, TDs per game, yards per game, total MVPs, etc.... Brady didn't win his 4th ring until age 36 so Mahomes has 6 years to dick around to keep his lead over Brady.
>Bro can't be satisfied with what most non-contrarians would put as number 2
The only real case you can make is that Mahomes won't maintain his lead over Brady and Montana. The dude was a coinflip in overtime away from starting in 6 of the last 7 superbowls. Mahomes is built different.

>>149441002
Montana never lost an owl like Brady or Montana

>>149440914

>>149440914
R.i.p. Demariyus

>>149441002
I do not entertain "on pace" as legitimate

>>149441042
F

Montana >>>>>>>>> Bradshaw >>>>>>>> Eli >>> Brady >>>>>>>>>> Mahomes

>>149441017
>Montana never lost an owl like Brady or Montana
Montana missed the playoffs and had early playoff exits in his 20s. Would much rather make it to the big game and lose rather than lose in the regular season and miss the playoffs.

>>149441090
Don't reply, I typo'd

a wildcard loss and a super bowl loss are the same result.

>>149440134
I actually work for the Jacksonville Jaguars so I can say >we

People are saying that Noah Knigga might enter the 2028 NFL Draft if he so desires, which team could you imagine him playing for?

>>149441111
Isn't it the difference of like 2 games won, 2 postseason games?

>>149441111
checked

>>149440917
>>149440974
Jalen Hurts made history when he became the first QB to win a superbowl against a team that didn't have a starting Left Tackle. Chiefs had a GUARD playing the LT position. The LT is arguably the 2nd most important position in the NFL since they keep your QB upright and healthy.

they made the super bowl with a guard playing LT so clearly it didn't matter all that much.

Patrick Mahomes is the FIRST Quarterback in NFL history to have key teammates miss important games due to injuries or illness.

Eli would shit on mahomes and himself

>>149441177
giwtwm

>>149441120
San Diego Chargers

>>149441161
>>149441164
>they made the super bowl with a guard playing LT so clearly it didn't matter all that much.
As Belichick said, you can get away with that against the bad teams, but not the best teams. Read picrel.

>he admits mahomes only beats bad teams in the playoffs
sad. brady would never

>>149441219
Stupid and gay whataboutism and deflection aside, even a healthy Chiefs team would have lost to the Eagles. Nobody was beating that team.

>>149440914
I remember this entire season listening to Slip Bayless' delusional Tebow takes and him being right every fucking week. He even told Terrell Suggs that he was better than Joe Flacco.

>>149441248
In the two Superbowls Mahomes lost he had critical issues on the OL. 4 starters on the OL were injured in the Tampa superbowl. In the Eagles superbowl a guard was starting at left tackle.
>sad. brady would never
If you can name one Superbowl Brady won with a guard starting at the left tackle position I will admit I was wrong about everything and that Brady is the GOAT.

>>149441177
True.

>>149441260
>Stupid and gay whataboutism and deflection aside, even a healthy Chiefs team would have lost to the Eagles. Nobody was beating that team.
First of all. We already saw the Chiefs beat the Eagles in 2022 despite them having a vastly superior roster. Secondly, we already saw the eagles lose in the regular season so people did beat them. Half the Lions defensive players were injured and half the Chiefs offensive players were injured. There should be an asterisk next to the Eagles win but I won't be unfair.

Should there be an asterisk next to the 2024 Super Bowl victory against the 49ers because of the muffed punt?

>>149441342
>because of the muffed punt?
I don't remember this.

>>149441326
Teams have injuries every year. You might as well put an asterisk on every owl, if that's your thought process.

If the NFL's massive investigative process only concluded in a 10 game suspension for Justin Tucker, there was not much of anything there. Whatever there is, is heresy or circumstantial. The problem for Tucker is he went to shit before this scandal, so I'm not sure if he's good enough to be worth the pub. But if last year was an anomaly and he is able to regain his form, a team in need of a kicker should absolutely sign him. My read on this 10 game suspension is there's nothing there.

>>149441342
Bro what timeline did you just slide in from?

>>149441353
Of course you don't, you don't actually watch football and just regurgitate box scores and PFF statistics.
>>149441366
This timeline.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC6VmXIqnN8

The Falcons kicker's name is Younghoe...

>>149441342
Every Superb Owl this decade is illegitimate.

>>149441416
Every superb owl under goodell and some under tagliabue

>>149441260
>even a healthy Chiefs team would have lost to the Eagles. Nobody was beating that team.
The Chiefs run game vanished once they were forced to move their elite guard to the tackle position. This made the Chiefs' offense 1-dimensional. One thing I will agree with you, even if they had a real LT that's not guaranteed they would have won but it definitely wouldn't have been a blow out.
>>149441356
There's a huge difference between injuries and freak of nature injuries. Chiefs season was a shitshow. Lost their WR1, WR2, WR3, RB1, RB2, lost nearly all their TEs, and the replacements they put in there got injured. The entire season was fluky and they were never able to establish chemistry. Not to mention the musical chairs they played with the left tackle position.

>>149437410
>>149438297
>>149439827
>>149440224
Handcrafted for BBC
(Big Bronco Cock)

>>149441441
Good morning saar!

There should be an asterisk next to every Chiefs loss since 2018 because Mahomes is the greatest qb of all time and there's no way the greatest qb of all time could lose a game to an inferior qb.

>mahomes
>greatest anything
kek
lel

>>149441386
>>149441342
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC6VmXIqnN8
>because of the muffed punt?
This is a silly argument. Players making mistakes on the field is a part of the game. Injuries by contrast are random. If your QB breaks his knee and you lose the superbowl it's perfectly fair to say "my team would have won if not for that injury".

>>149441476
That anon was clearly joking but since you know so much. Can you name a QB at age 30 with more
>Rings
>TDs per game
>Yards per game
>Playoff wins
>Superbowl MVPs
>Superbowl appearances
>Conference championship appearances
than Mahomes? Oh, you can't. Sorry to hear that. I guess he unironically is the best we've seen up until this point.

>>149441513
Maybe Mahomes should have adopted T-Law's mentality, he should have shaken off the past and won that shit. I love how sports can extend to life bussy lessons.

>>149441387
Bro nails them young hoes.

>>149441559
>at his age
>at his age
>at age 30
>at his age
this is the biggest cope ever
he can shatter his legs beyond repair week 1 this season and suddenly "before age 30" means nothing because that was his whole career

>>149441513
>my team would have won if not for that injury
This is a silly argument. Players getting injured on the field is a part of the game. Fumbles by contrast are random. If your QB muffs the snap and you lose the superbowl it's perfectly fair to say "my team would have won if not for that fumble."

>>149441111
Checked and kek'd

>>149441589
If Mahomes never played another game he retires with
2nd most Superbowl MVPs of all time
2nd most playoff wins of all time
Most TDs/yards per game in NFL history
Highest win rate in modern era
Only player to never miss a championship round

He's already a top 3 player of all time.

>muff the snap on this bussy

>>149441600
>Fumbles by contrast are random
lol

>>149438684
>I just want to thank you guys this off-season for not riding Mahomes dick and the incessant Brady vs mahomes like last year
Statistically speaking teams do not do good after losing a superbowl. I already know my Chiefs aren't going to have a good season thus I won't bother posting here this season. Next season is our season.

>>149441711
>I already know my Chiefs aren't going to have a good season thus I'm going to be a little pussy bitch and duck out of the thread and only come back to be unbearable if they start winning again
cool thanks for the pre-cope

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/protestor-arrest-superbowl-new-orleans/article_364a205d-40f4-43c8-b2db-4fc4bfeaabca.html
Jun 26, 2025

"Last month, Nantambu claimed he was the man whom former NFL wide receiver Antonio Brown shot at following a fistfight at a Miami boxing event, according to a TMZ report. Brown is currently wanted on an attempted murder count stemming from the shooting.

Former NFL player Antonio Brown is facing an attempted murder charge after authorities say he grabbed a handgun from a security worker at the boxing event and fired two shots at Nantambu. Nantambu told investigators that one of the bullets grazed his neck."

So a random dancer, who apparently runs in NFL circles, protests at the Super Bowl, is also the murder target of Antonio Brown in a completely different city?

>>149441745
I'm not a punching bag like Temujin who gets off from humiliation rituals. When your team has won this many owls you have standards. I will not subject myself to humiliation. Best case scenario:
>Mahomes gets a minor injury early.
>Team shuts it down and tanks
>Chiefs come back next season with a great draft pick

>>149441745
>and only come back to be unbearable if they start winning again
>if they start winning again
>if
Reading this made me laugh. Not a single one of us can imagine the Chiefs playing bad seeing how they've ruled the league with an iron fist. My Chiefs are still going to kick everyone's ass, they just won't win a ring. Hope that cleared things up for you.

>>149440859

After Caleb Williams was drafted, he bought a Corvette. After 25 year old Bo Nix was drafted, be bought a hot meal.

Temujin is a 6 foot 215lb autistic Latina living in California and my wife!

How did we end up in the universe where the black running QB is the "ball-knowers" pick who is actually the best player in football, and the goofy loveable white guy is the shoehorned overrated face pedestalled for marketing? I feel like this shit flipped. What happened to the timeline?

>>149441865
Allen is the only running black QB in your pic. He is trending to have the most rush TDs of all time. Take away his rush TDs and he's mediocre.

As for Lamar. Unlike Burrow, Allen, and Mahomes he's never had an elite WR1 on par with Chase, Diggs, or Tyreek. In the 3 seasons where neither Lamar or Allen had an elite WR Lamar has more TDs, yards, and a higher passer rating.

If you take away the choking in playoffs, Lamar would be a monster.

>>149439855
>womyn refs

She literally _moves into his path_ and of course gets run over. Imagine if Hurts had blown his knee out or something because Shaniquea was a DEI hire.

>>149439782

There's no "I" in "TEAM".

>>149441935
But there is an "I" in win.
-Michael Jordan

>>149441908
Lamar has obviously been the best offensive player in the NFL since 2019, and was the best player overall last season by a pretty huge power gap. You're right though, he can't stop fucking it up big in the playoffs. Eliminate just one of the two interceptions against the Bills and the game isn't even loseable for the Ravens. He's obviously obsessive and gets into his own head about playing perfectly.

Also, forced meme aside, don't even take away Allen's rushing TDs just take away the scores from within a yard and Allen is mid-table starter. Allen is possibly the most overrated player of the last ten years. His MVP win was a joke.

>>149441865
Will either of these two finally get to a fucking Super Bowl? Don't even have to win it, I just want to see someone besides Mahomes get there. Burrow was almost 4 years ago.

>>149441971
lolno
May as well be McNabb and Dalton for how well they do in the 'offs

Who will be the next team to win their 1st Super Bowl? Submit your answers by 12:00 AM eastern standard time.

>>149438797

That looks cool.

>>149441985
Rodgers wins it all with the Steelers this season.

>>149441962
>Lamar has obviously been the best offensive player in the NFL since 2019
That title belongs to Mahomes. Now if you just said regular season then you could make the case for Lamar or Burrow. In that time span Mahomes has 35 more pass TDs and 8,000 more pass yards. And that's not even including the playoff stats which would probably double those numbers.

>>149441962
>was the best player overall last season

>>149441985
Bills are the closest, followed by the Lions.

>>149441985
Bengals. They're the best team currently that I don't consider massive choke artist (Lions, Bills, Vikings). If not the Bengals, then it'll be some Manchurian candidate like the Texans

>>149441985
Wildcard pick:

Texans will give up on Stroud in a contract year and sign/trade for an old man that manages to get them over the hump like Stafford to the Rams.
>Cards
They're the oldest team in league history, if they haven't done it yet then it's not happening.
>Falcons
Penis will be good enough to keep them out of contention for team-changing draft picks and not good enough to win anything.
>Bills
Allen actually winning an AFCCG? LMAO, dude turns into a statue in the cold despite playing in Buffalo.
>Panthers
Poverty franchise.
>Bengals
Retard franchise.
>Browns
lol
>Loins
Cursed franchise.
>Jags
Poverty franchise.
>Chargers
Cursed franchise.
>Vikings
Cursed franchise.
>Tits
lol

Will Allen win a ring? Surely he can't go his entire career jobbing to the Chiefs, right?....right?

>>149441985

Lions are 4-5 in NFL Championship games.

>>149441985
Texans win one with CJ Stroud

>That title belongs to Mahomes

>>149440355
>He still r8s pre-salary cap era rings
ngmi

>>149442028
Who knows? Fucking wait and find out, fag.

>>149442025
> that I don't consider massive choke artist (Lions, Bills, Vikings)
The Bills don't have a reputation of being choke artist what are you talking about? They play great in the playoffs and just happen to be in the same conference as the Chiefs.

>>149442004
Sure, Mahomes will always have the "muh rings" and the volume stats. I will always stand by the fact that Mahomes spent most of his career so far on the best offensive roster in football. With the most experienced head coach in the league who is a specialist in coaching QBs. While Mahomes has already finished a first-ballot career, my purely speculative argument is that Mahomes would have been an average to below-average starter in every other scenario that other top QBs are in.
Unfortunately, my argument is baseless and purely speculative. That won't stop me from posting it though.

>>149442014
pic related

>>149442048
>The Bills don't have a reputation of being choke artist(s) what are you talking about
Zoom Zoom

>>149442028
Allen wins his first ring the year his contract expires and he moves to another team

>>149442048
>The Bills don't have a reputation of being choke artist what are you talking about?

>>149442053
>pic related
>Daniels was able to stay competitive with the Ravens despite being on a bad team

>>149441559
Montana, next

>>149442084
>Daniels got a garbage time TD against the third stringers and made the game look closer than it was.
fify

>>149442062
We're talking about the current rosters, not the 90s Bills.

>>149442027
>Allen actually winning an AFCCG? LMAO, dude turns into a statue in the cold despite playing in Buffalo.
This is just false. Allen puts up absurdly good stats in the playoffs. He just happens to be going up against Mahomes who is #1 in all stats in the playoffs.
>>149442073
Choking in the playoffs is when you underperform. Like what the Vikings and Lions did. The Bills play great, they just lose against someone greater. Mahomes is #1 in ever stat in the playoffs. He would push everyone's shit in. Mahomes only plays bad in superbowls.

>Allen puts up absurdly good stats in the playoffs

>>149442098
>This is just false. Allen puts up absurdly good stats in the playoffs. He just happens to be going up against Mahomes who is #1 in all stats in the playoffs.
This isn't even true though. Take away high volume Wildcard games and Allen spends the majority of the playoffs handing off the ball and trying not to throw interceptions. He has one high-volume game against the Chiefs in his career. His playoff performance is possibly more overrated than Jackson's is hated.

>>149442096
>Daniels carried a team objectively worse than the Ravens to a CCG while Lamar choked again

>>149442111
I don't think you know what volume means

>>149442098
>Choking in the playoffs is when you underperform
Which the Bills have. 0-4 is a big enough sample size that it's choking. The fact is that, on paper, the Bills have been just as good if not better than KC every time. If Buffalo had won even one of those games, I'd say the rest is the random variance of football. But the fact that they lost 4 straight times in the playoffs (while beating KC in the regular season) is the definition of choking. Buffalo routinely gets the lead against KC, they can simply never hold it

>>149442087
Okay let's compare Montana and Mahomes at age 30
>Rings
Mahomes 3
Montana 2
>TDs/yards per game
Mahomes is currently the best of all time
>Playoff wins
Mahomes has 17 playoff wins which is more than Montana had during his ENTIRE career.
>Superbowl MVPs
Mahomes 3
Montana 2
>Superbowl appearances
Mahomes 5
Montana 2

>>149442122
I don't think you know what anything you're posting about means. Allen's overrated as fuck, it is what it is.

If Allen is a championship contender why doesn't he contend for championships?

>>149442134
Now do super bowl losses

>>149442118
The Chiefs, Ravens, and Bills all would have EASILY beaten the Commies for a spot in the NFCCG. Soft conference.

>>149442131
>>149442111
You're redefining what choking means. Choking is what Goff did. Where in the regular season he looks like an MVP, but in the playoffs he's throwing interceptions. Allen has some of the best playoff stats of all time. They might be statpadded but it is what it is.
>Passer rating 101
>25 TDs 4 INTs

>>149442053
>I will always stand by the fact that Mahomes spent most of his career so far on the best offensive roster in football.
That would be Joe Burrow who will play his entire career with two young WR1s Chase and Higgins. Mahomes got Kelce at a late age and they traded Tyreek. Mahomes roster in the last 3 seasons isn't even a top 10 offense. Rashee, Worthy, Toney, and Juju wouldn't be starters on the Eagles, Lions, 49ers, or Ravens roster. I don't even know if they would be WR2s on those teams.

Allen playoff stats are fugazi. He feasts on shitter 7 seeds every year cause he's never gotten a 1 seed. Lamar and Mahomes don't get to do that on a bye

>>149442164
>Allen has some of the best playoff stats of all time.
Stop saying this. It's all statpadding. He only has one good playoff game against an actual contender.

>undefeated super bowl QBs
Montana
Bradshaw
Eli (yes, really)
Nick Foles
Joe Flacco
Phil Simms / Hostetler
Brad Johnson
Trent Dilfer
Jim Plunkett
Ken Stabler
Steve Young
Doug Williams
I think mark rypien was undefeated too
Aikman unfortunately
Jim McMahon
Brett Favre
Drew Brees

And I don't I feel like looking up the rest, those were of the top of my head

Fine, I'll make one.

Players are in order within their tiers. Added a couple silly guys so it's not 100% starters.

>>149442207
Carr retired anon

>>149442215
>Added a couple silly guys so it's not 100% starters.

>>149442207
>Hurts
>Top 5
No. The Eagles have the best GM. Even Purdy would have won with that roster. I'm not saying Jalen is bad, I'm just saying you can't take that ring seriously.

>>149442220
More like you posted before you double checked ya bastard

>>149442225
Allen wouldn't have won a ring on the Eagles last year.

>>149442230
I mean I can't go back and edit in that I put extra dudes in for fun.

>>149442201
Being undefeated in championship games is a useless talking point made by fatheads on ESPN. I expect better from you anon. Would you rather be Mahomes or Montana in your 20s? Mahomes never missed a championship around in went to 5 superbowls. Meanwhile Montana missed the playoffs and was losing to randos.

Posted for review and rebuttal

>>149442242
Montana easily, what kinda question is that

>>149442207
Maye and Williams should be on the same row

Montana has that dawg in him, simple as.

>>149442247
@KC 2022 is his only legitimately great playoff performance. Everything else was either game manager behavior or actually dogshit.

>>149442201
Technically

>>149442255
You realize the more playoff wins you have the better it is for your legacy right? Not to mention all the stats you get on your resume during the playoff games. Mahomes is already is 2nd place in playoff wins and at age 30 already has the 2nd most pass TDs in NFL history. You also win titles and trophes for winning conference championships.

You also get more fame, commercials, and endorsements from attending superbowls. But after hearing all this, you'd rather get your shit pushed in against a rando in the regular season and miss the playoffs.

>>149442141
Nobody thought we'd beat the Lions either

>>149442279
Yeah, coin flips are a funny thing.

speaking of undefeated Quarterbacks, i'd like to tell you about one

>Spent 3 years in SD/NYJ
>signed with the oakland raiders in his 4th year
>goes from 3 seasons without more than 25 touchdowns to 42 touchdowns and only 14 interceptions
>set a record for touchdowns scored in his lone superbowl appearance with 7
>finished his super bowl season with a 82% completion percentage
>rebounded from bust to champion
>saved his HC from being fired
>saved his WR from being labelled a bust, (121 receptions, 1,108 yards, 13 touchdowns
>successfully memed the LoB seahawks out of a 14-2/17-2 finish
>destroyed the USC QB meme
>told the NFL to fuck off and retired at 31 with a ring, mvp, best QB award and 3 pro bowls (2 in Oakland, 1 in SD)
>madden 16 cover athlete

Billy Morales, QB, USC, the greatest ever

>>149442118
>>149442303
Stroud and Purdy also looked great on their first season. But then they got tape'd and teams were able to shut them down. The same will happen to the commies.

>>149442303
well you plays the chiefs this season so you can see if for yourself if they could have won the owl or handed the chiefs their threepeat

>>149442308
>Yeah, coin flips are a funny thing.
true
https://youtu.be/vAgG9XcrDFY

>>149442303
>Nobody thought we'd beat the Lions either

You didn't, Ben "Arch Traitor" Johnson handed you the game so he could hurry up and run off to Chicago to be HC.

>>149442303
GOOF is a hell of a drug

>>149442303
Well they didn't beat the Lions, they beat the practice squad.

>>149442316
aw shit I thought this was real, still a nice read

I once made Chris Leak a 3 time madden super bowl champion before my save got fucked

fuck the iggles

fuck this bussy

>>149442303
That was more Lions beating themselves with the fact they used too much Goof and not enough Gibbs. Seriously Gibbs lit up Washington that game.

>>149442385
I used to always make Seneca Wallace a league MVP/Super Bowl champ. Used to be so much funner back then, when you could change your team name and customize everything.

Didn't the lions lose their coordinators? The HC is a hype man, he's not the one who was making schemes. Their QB is a known choke artist. The Lions dynasty ended before it began.

>Retired LT Terron Armstead: I'm cool never having to face 'different' Jared Verse again
Certified maniac

>>149442512
>QB is already down
That defender has no valid reason to be airborne.

>>149442512
But would he have been cool with facing the same Jared Verse?

>>149437460
>literally a sanctuary city conquered by Venezuelan gangs
>arayan chad

>>149442539
I'm guessing no, but they'll have to ask a follow up.

>>149442247
My Chiefs would have booty blasted any team that had the misfortune of being in the same conference, so you can't blame Allen for those L's.

>torches the blitz every time
>drops 45 points
>0 turnovers
>converts every 4th down except 1
>everyone says the Lions beat themselves
He's unironically still underrated

>>149442562
Booty blast this bussy buddy

>>149442207
Stroud, Love, Lawrence and Cousins are too high. Carr, retired but since you included him, is too low and probably so is Rodgers. Your top five is pretty good, can't really argue against those guys too much.

>>149442585
Every QB does that in their first or second season since teams don't have enough tape on them. Only the special QBs can maintain that.

Why is beer bad for you?
It doesn’t feel like it is

>>149442684
Ask me how I know this is a Raiders fan.

>>149442680
>every QB does that
Every QB upsets the 1 seed in the playoffs?

>>149442689
Jets fan actually
>t. Saw a game where Chad Pennington was owning Tim Bradley

>>149442696
>upsets the 1 seed
This would actually be impressive if the team they upset didn't have a QB who is known for choking.

>>149442723
Sure man, whatever you say

I mean seriously

If Chad Pennington didn’t get injured no one would be talking about Tom Brady today

>>149442585
What was his average starting field position in that game?

Bros I love ChatGPT

>>149442761
>>149442767
Fuck off

>>149442723
Nah, it's definitely still impressive.

>>149442777
Chill out zoomer

>>149442761
Also who knows how good Pennington could've been if he wasn't saddled with that noodle arm.

>>149442585
The defense he was facing was missing half their depth chart.

>>149442789
So how come 15 other teams couldn't beat them?

>>149442761
>>149442767
Chatgpt is a fun tool to goof around with

>>149442801
To WHAT around with?

>>149442795
Because I'm gay

I miss when Goff would have meltdown games where threw multiple interceptions and fumbled nonstop as he single-handedly dragged his team into the abyss.

As we can see the Eagles and Ravens have inarguably the best QB rooms in the NFL. Every other team is essentially done if their QB gets their spine HEEM'd

>>149442947
As far as backup QBs go, I'm pretty comfortable with Aidan O'Connell starting if Geno goes down.

>>149442947
Always love seeing Danny boy topping lists

Herbert will get a ring, but it won't be on the Chargers.

>>149442994
>Herbert
>Allen
What other QBs will win their first ring on another team?

>>149440222
fuck your faggot ass face, faggot.

>>149442634
>>149442550
>>149442547
>>149442443
>>149442328
>>149442179
>>149442022
built for BBC
(Big Bronco Cock)

>>149443052
>one saar strikes fear into the hearts and minds of every Chiefs fan

How does he do it?

When that n word suffers his sophomore slump, the cuck in these threads WILL suffer a heart attack

>>149443057
by being aryan, deshita. he makes the chicanos, jeets, and negroids quiver in their boots

>>149443059
Bo Nix make ya ______?

>>149443002
Dillon Gabriel

>>149443002
Herbert ain't winning shit and I doubt Allen ever leaves Buffalo. Baker Mayfield and Jared Goff are the two best poised to do it in the next 3 years. Bucs secondary is still questionable but man they have a truly elite roster top to bottom rn

>>149443070
he makes non-whites SEETHE teebeeaych.

>>149443114
>Jared Goff

>>149443137
Actually you're right. Goff already won a ring that's my mistake. Baker Mayfield was the correct answer

>>149443149
Lions would've been SB champs with anyone else at QB

>>149443149
>Goff already won a ring
A cuck ring?

>>149443173
Even Jalen Hurts?

>>149443202
Conference championship rings are a legitimate accomplishment. Wes Welker has 4 of them which is why he struggles to turn door handles when he wears his bling

>>149443231
Yeah

>>149443235
Nice save.

>>149443235
>[coming in second place is] a legitimate accomplishment
I'd feel the same too if I was a Ravens fan

>>149443295
Ravens have never lost a Superbowl therefore no Ravens player, coach or executive has ever received a conference championship ring with the team

>>149443235
Like I said, a cuck ring.

>Don't tell me you were happy when she was dating Jamal Ginsberg, the Hasidic Homeboy

If Chase is so good that he carries Burrow why did his production drop off a cliff when Burrow got injured?

>>149444627
Do people really say he carries Burrow?

>>149444955
No just that idiot you responded to did.

>>149442801
Cringe

>>149444627
The fact that Burrow is significantly better than his backup doesn't mean he isn't being carried. There are maybe 20 QBs in the league good enough to play in the NFL, the backups aren't even close to competent.

>>149444627
There is only one WR in the league whose production doesn't fall off a cliff with backups and it's Justin Jefferson

>>149445323
Justin Jefferson is no higher than the 5th best WR in the league.

>>149445463
post your top 4 so we can laugh at it

oh that good player? he's actually a BAD player

>>149445631
kelce

Oh that good player? He's actually a QUEER FAGGOT

>>149445606
Brown, Chase, Nacua, Collins

>>149445641
but enough about you

Travis Hunter is going to be the best NFL player of all time when his career is over. The jags will win a super bowl within 3 years.

>>149445641
I never considered Jeff Garcia to be that good

>>149445643
Lol no Chase and Tyreek Hill are the only two even arguable over Jefferson. Brown, Nacua and Collins are not unguardabe like those top 3

>>149445643
justin jefferson's average season equals poopa nacaca's career touchdown count. nico collins is made of paper

>>149445726
>Brown, Nacua and Collins are not unguardabe like those top 3
You're wrong, they are. All three are better against man coverage than Jefferson, and Nacua and Collins are better against zone (though Brown isn't far behind).
>>149445741
Well it turns out there are more factors that go into evaluating WRs than # of TDs.

>>149445780
>You're wrong
No I'm not. Tyreek Hill is still one of the most dangerous WRs on and off the field he just has half a retard throwing him the ball

>>149445796
what's so dangerous about him off the field and why should I take that into account at all?

>>149445780
>Well it turns out there are more factors that go into evaluating WRs than # of TDs.
yes and jefferson is better than poopa in all of them as well. i was just driving the point home.

I don't care what any leaf "thinks" about anything. Take that into account next time you feel like @ing me

Joe Bussy

>>149445863
sounds like you said something stupid and can't mental gymnastic your way out of it and instead resorted to using "meme brain"

>>149446740
Sounds like JFFM got ya in a melty kek

>melty
>jffm
legit meme brain tard hours

>>149446776
Melty alert!

The leaf is in a melty kek!!!

>>149445863
what time does the warehouse shift start, m8?

Frankie Luvu's gotta be up there among the most overrated players in the league right now

>>149445643
I like Puka but he ain't top 3

Josh Allen wouldn't make the playoffs in the AFCN AFCW NFCN or NFCE

>>149439270
/ck/ on top

>>149447148
the dolphins and patriots could take the number one seed this year if the Bills defense continues its slide

>>149447019
He is if you count run blocking.

>>149447148
Is Allen the most overrated player in modern NFL history? The only other guys that had their play as exaggerated is Russel Wilson and TJ Watt and they at least have either a ring or real records to stand on.

>>149447245
dangerruss has performed above spec his whole career, remember he was a 3rd round pick and still is a manlet

>>149447245
yes, and his run is about to end. he's being asked to do more and more and his physical condition will not last. you add in how trash that defense was last year and how they basically did nothing for it this year but add Bosa (who is washed) and the Bills will legit slide

>>149447245
The most overrated player currently in the NFL is Micah Parsons

>>149447312
hes not even the most overrated player on the cowboys

>>149447312
I don't necessarily think so, since he does a lot on an undertalented Cowboys defense. He isn't in the top of the top tier with guys like Garrett though, despite the media insisting that he is. He's a liability if he isn't able to make splash plays like Watt.

>>149447327
No one rates Diggs anymore

>>149442225
Purdy's not doing this

>>149447647
you don't remember purdy running against the lions?

>>149447703
no i dont remember purdy breaking multiple tackles on a 44yd touchdown

>>149448074
if mr irrelevant can dab yardage gains like that, imagine with the eagle ol

Lifelong Chiefs fan of 5 years or something

>>149441575
Life imitates art.
>>149448289

>>149440040
Ricky Williams wasn't even the first runningback taken btw

>>149447647
How many more years until the Eagles decline?

>>149445780
>You're wrong, they are. All three are better against man coverage than Jefferson
Retarded delusion
Jefferson sees more double teams than any other receiver in the nfl for a reason

>>149448350
3-4

double team this bussy

>>149448333
infamous draft year
NOLA kwab again

>>149448350
They're going to be elite until Stout retires

draft this bussy

Rams grow stronger every day

this bussy grows stronger

>>149448175
According to /nfl/, every team is going 12-5 this year.

>>149448906
No one has the saints going 12-5

>>149448906
Lol no. Plenty of teams will be firmly under 10 wins
>Titans
>Browns
>Cardinals
>Saints
>Giants
>Patriots
>Jets
>Colts
>Bears
>Falcons
>Raiders
That's just the easy ones

>>149448945
I do

>>149448951
you are so fucking mad right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VucJeNMX8hE

is this gen for fags only? i mean with all the dudes asking to get their ass pounded
i can't tell

>>149442225
This desu.

>>149449045
have you ever watched football? most homosexual sport by far

my raiders are going 17-0 you dumb kiwi bitch

Raider fans don't watch football

>>149449074
you mean soccer

>>149449078
Free money hitting that over 6.5 then. Feel free my nigger

Why does truth make bears fans upset?

>>149449134
>ceiling joe burrow
>floor sam darnold
fucking kek, PFF is dogshit

>>149449134
I'm pretty sure this is racist I just don't know why yet

>>149449045
It's pride month. Stop being a bigot!

>>149449162
Yea JJ ceiling is Elway and his floor is Alex Smith, poor comparison by PFF

>>149449190
explains why the Kiwi is here never forget that zesty fuck posted his literal bare ass here to entice a meet up.

entice this bussy

>>149449134
Redskins better hope Daniels is a better winner than Lamar lol dude chokes in the playoffs bad

>>149449279
yeah I think that was the point

think about this bussy

>>149449134
How do they know JJ can at minimum have a career as long as Darnold? He hasn’t played a snap.

W O W !

what will the vikucks cope be when JJ sucks shit and they could have kept darnold on the roster for cheap

>>149449281
Didn't Daniels win as many playoff games as Lamar career wise just last year?

>>149449411
one fewer

>>149449411
lachoke is 3-5

joe brrrr shiesty hasn't lost a playoff game in years

>>149449134
Daniels has ice in his veins unlike Labum. Only one turnover the whole postseason and that was a tipped catch in the endzone down several scores in the 4th

>>149449392
Why imagine things that won't happen?

Matt Stafford didn't win a single playoff game for 12 years yet retards here try to rip on Lamar and say he will never win an owl kek
>b-but he was stuck on the Lions!!!!
Friendly reminder Baker Mayfield was drafted to an 0-16 Browns team, took them to the playoffs and won a road playoff game without his head coach+play caller in just his 3rd season

>>149449527
>Friendly reminder Baker Mayfield was drafted to an 0-16 Browns team
Take a quick look at what the Lions record was in 08 right before they drafted Stafford lmfao

>>149449527
That should just show you the depths of the Lions incompetence.

Lamar Jackson is STILL 3-5 in the playoffs

>black qbs

>>149449527
Stafford overachieved on a shit team while Lamar has been underachieving on a stacked team. Plus Lamar's playstyle does not seem like it will age as well as traditional passers. how many more years can he maintain his foot speed?

>>149449458
its fun

>>149449556
>making my point for me
Fucking retard lmfao

>>149449566
The Lions had some good rosters in the mid 2010s those 4 years they had Jim Caldwell. Stafford choked like a bitch in the Cowboys 2014 playoff game and got ass raped by the Seahawks in the 2016 playoffs. He only got excuses made for him because muh stats

>>149449579
Stafford did not overachieve with the Lions. He took them to the playoffs 3 times in 12 years and got soundly beaten each time

>>149449579
Stafford had one of the best receivers in Megatron.

>Jackson is regarded as one of the best quarterbacks of his generation, and the greatest dual-threat quarterback of all time.

>Lionsfaggots still refuse to admit that they wasted their 1st round pick
Lol. Lmao even. Man's wasnt even good enough to be a rotational dimeback.

>>149449878
The flags were kino though

>>149449878
MOGGED

>>149445643
Sounds like you just listed some random popular names to be a contrarian.

Reminder than Daniel Jones won more playoff games for the Giants than Stafford won for the Lions.

>>149449134
Some of these make no sense, especially McCarthy.

>>149449878
Wasn't even the best corner available from his school lmao.
Fumble of the century.

>>149449577
>win super bowls

>>149449741
Lamar has the 3rd best passer rating and is trending towards overtaking both Rodgers and Mahomes. He's only 28 yet recently passed Michael Vick to have the most rushing yards of all time. If he didn't shit himself in the playoffs he could be an all time great.

Bald people are evil. I'm sure glad my team's head coach isn't bald.

>>149449957
Oh hey, it's the black Trent Dilfer!

>>149449977
He's improving in the playoffs though and I think we all know deep down he'll get a ring in Baltimore.

>>149450018
Trent Differ wishes he was black

>>149450034
No he doesn't.

>>149450018
Hurts had more touchdowns against the Commies than Dilfer had in his entire super bowl run

>>149450030
>I think we all know deep down he'll get a ring in Baltimore.

>>149450034
So does his wife

>>149450030
Every year he doesn't get it done it only builds up more pressure which in turn makes him choke harder. It's like a pressure valve that hasn't been turned.

>Of Jalen Hurts' 55 career rushing touchdowns as of April 28, 2025, 33 were from one yard out.
lmao

Me here >>149450030 I meant to say *Josh Allen*.

>>149450093
how did they get to the 1 yard line

>>149450104
Probably spammed slants to AJ Brown and force fed the ball to Barkley.

>>149450114
sounds like baseless seethe to me

>giving Hurts all the credit for the offense

>>149449134
>posting clickbait with no sauce
You should be ashamed.
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ceilings-floors-second-year-nfl-quarterbacks-2025-season

>>149449162
>>149449949
It makes more sense if you read the article, the ceilings/floors seems like more of an attention grabbing thing than anything.

>>149450093
Most of those rush TDs are from that tush push bullshit which is the epitome of a team stat. I'll never give a QB credit for anything related to a tush push.
>Several huge men are pushing against my ass and I go over the line
Get the fuck out of here. That just shows your olinemen shot more steroid needles up their ass. NFL should be about skill not steroids.

>>149450125
Eagles fans don't know ball, sadly.

>>149450093
Just shows you 33 of those td were from teams who just couldn't "git good"

>giving Hurts none of the credit for the offense

>>149450125
You'll never convince these tards (especially the kiwinigger). They all belong in /nba/.

>>149449978
Rude

Average Tom Brady path to a ring
>MVP Rodgers
>Loaded Saints
>Loaded Chiefs and Prime Mahomes

Average Hershey Squirts path to a ring
>Green Gay Practice squad
>Old Man Stafford in the snow
>A LITERAL FUCKING ROOKIE
>Team with negative point differential

Nigga should start gambling with this level of luck.

>>149450093
>>149450125
>>149450145
Tush push is a team stat. Put him on another team with weaker olinemen and all those tush pushes go away. They need to ban the tush push, the sport should be about skill not brute force. Keep that shit in rugby.

Tush Push is reddit lexicon, here on 4chan we call it the bussy bump.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

retards will tell you Hurts is actually a bad QB while simultaneously talking about how well run the team is and how every position is stacked except the quarterback and howie got it wrong. shit makes no sense

>>149450178
>>Old Man Stafford in the snow
>the only semi-serious team the Eagles faced
>needed snowball to win
>the media wants YOU to believe this is a superteam

Caleb Williams unironically had a better season than CJ Stroud.
It's okay if you disagree, because you're wrong.

>>149450221
Niggas ain't got a babby schedule this year either. 10-7 at best. Cowfags or Commies taking that division.

>>149450241
Reminder that the Eagles barely beat the fucking Panthers.

>>149450218
>retards will tell you Hurts is actually a bad QB
No one is saying this, you just keep making this up in your mind

didn't the Rams and Easgles face off during the regular season, when it WASN'T snowing?
How did that game go? I remember it was a pretty commanding victory for the Easgles, but I'm just an illiterate fentadelphia fan tranq addict who can't spell the name of my own team, so I would appreciate your opinion.

>>149450218
Hurts is an elite game manager similar to Purdy. If you put a great roster around him he's going to take you to a superbowl. Put Allen, Mahomes, or Burrow on that roster and the Eagles would be sitting on 8 rings.

>>149450258
If you're comparing him to Trent Dilfer, you're saying he's a bad QB.

>>149450218
>retards will tell you Hurts is actually a bad QB
Nobody is even saying this. He's just not elite.

>>149450280
I am saying that. Hurts sucks.

>>149450291
Based

>wake up
>open /nfl/
>Eaglesfags getting BTFO

>>149449878
Seriously, we need to talk about this more. This is almost as big a blunder as Howie passing on JJ for Jalen Raegor.

>Mickey Hurts when he isn't surrounded by all-pros for a second

>>149450273
1. Dilfer wasn't a bad QB, zoomers don't know how football was played in the 90s and 2000s.
2. He is basically a modern Trent Dilfer. I call guys like him "mobile game managers". It's not a bad thing. You CAN win Super Bowls with guys that are mobile and keep the mistakes to a minimum.
3. Stop pretending that the rest of the Eagles roster isn't really good. Top 5 OL, Top 3 RB, Top 5 WR duo, Top 5 DL, Top 10 secondary, etc.

>>149450369
If the QB wins a super bowl and is immediately replaced, he was a bad QB.
>Stop pretending that the rest of the Eagles roster isn't really good. Top 5 OL, Top 3 RB, Top 5 WR duo, Top 5 DL, Top 10 secondary, etc.
never have I even implied the eagles roster isn't really good. It's a historically great roster. The QB is a part of that greatness, he's not just riding along.

>>149450251
A lot of good teams barely beat the Panthers. They were a competent squad late in the season and gave the Chiefs, Eagles, and Bucs all they could handle.

>>149450369
>3. Stop pretending that the rest of the Eagles roster isn't really good.
Igglesfags are what Cheifsfags were 6 months ago. Claiming the QB is everything and the rest of the team is lucky to be graced by his presence.

>>149450421
>If the QB wins a super bowl and is immediately replaced, he was a bad QB.
You just outed yourself as a zoomer, grats
>never have I even implied the eagles roster isn't really good
>The QB is a part of that greatness, he's not just riding along
Uh huh

>>149450431
This hasn't nothing to do with the Chiefs. Chiefs roster has been spotty on offense and defense yet they kept going to Superbowls due to Mahomes. The Eagles roster has been stacked for most of Jalen's career yet his superbowl appearances are spotty. They aren't the same.

What QB playing today should bring back the Culpepper roll?

>>149450457
He's been in 2 of the last 3 super bowls you stupid shit

Yeah bro the quarterback that was replaced by the elite Elvis Grbac was actually really good and went on to have an exceptional career

Hurts haters are the lowest IQ mutt goblins on /nfl/ even lower than bitchknees. You don't know ball

>>149449978
kek based and 100% accurate. Bald """people""" are genetic freaks much akin to albino

know this bussy

>>149450499
>He's been in 2 of the last 3 super bowls
Cute, Mahomes was a coin flip in overtime from going to 6 of the last 7 Superbowls.

>>149450077
I'd wanna punch someone so bad if they looked at me like that.

>>149450668
That jeep is literally filled with trained killers. He could pull up and look at you like that for an hour and you wouldn't do shit.

>>149449978
From my point of view it’s the fat coaches who are evil.

>>149450156
He hasn't committed sexual assault number three yet ever since he got lasik surgery either.

>>149450681
no those are actors and i could beat the fuck out of all of them

>>149450369
You are ridiculous. Dilfer was trash. The ultimate carried QB.

>>149450629
>Mahomes lost to a coin

KWAB

Mahomes probably should have won the game before letting it go to overtime. That's what I would have done personally.

>>149449878
>loins drafted a bust flag machine
>iggles got two (2) elite CBs

I think when they make a movie about Josh Allen, his gf should play herself and William Sadler should play McDermott.

>>149450725
>>149450725
>>149450725
>Mahomes probably should have won the game before letting it go to overtime.
Mahomes DID win. He beat the fuck out of Brady as you can see in the pic. Brady threw a 3rd gaming ending interception but it was overturned by refball.

No Chiefs fans complained since we knew the Patriots dynasty got special treatment, but now that we're benefiting from the dynasty treatment people are complaining.

Look at Brady's face even he knew he fucked up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPJv9YzozoQ

>Mahomes DID Win
but then why did he lose though

>>149450225
>2nd most sacks for a rookie in nfl history, with the highest rate of sacks caused by the QB in the nfl

it's up
>>149450827
>>149450827
>>149450827

>>149450815
Watching that final drive was like watching someone slowly get fed into a wood chipper foot first. It was hilarious.

>>149439260
Why is his kitchen all Steelers colors though?

>>149450179
Green Gay refused to git good per usual.

>>149450072
I believe every word of that

>>149449652
>Stafford did not overachieve with the Lions. He took them to the playoffs 3 times in 12 years and got soundly beaten each time
Did you ever see what the rest of those Lions rosters looked like? 3 playoffs trips in 12 years for the lions IS overachieving.

>>149450251
The panthers needed several miracles just to make the game seem like it was close when in reality it was never in doubt.

>>149450431
There are no actual Eagles fans hyping up Jalen that much, he just has so many haters that now contrarians have started dumping praise on him to illicit a reaction.