This soulless 5-2 or PSG's 4-0 win over Atlético reminds me of a discussion I had the other day, about how European football has become too dispassionate and sterile. You get attractive results at first glance, like Inter's tie with Barcelona, but they're dead in the ultimately, where there's no defense and they don't seem to care.
I blame two matches that had a showcase that was too conspicuous for the rest of the world: Barcelona's 5-0 win over Mourinho in 2010 and Spain's 4-0 win over Italy in 2012. From then on, catenaccio and all the schools that derived from it died in Italy, and the Italians became mere imitators of the rest of Europe's ideas.

There was a perfect balance between tactical, physical, and soulful football in Italy in the 1990s and 2000s. You'll never see anything like that again. Without corruption, it might have lasted another decade. The rest are just schools of political correctness and moral superiority. Capello said the same thing, criticizing the current state of Italy, and with Gattuso, they're trying to return to the foundations of the balance of 13 years ago.

Guardiola did a lot of damage to football. The 2006 and 2010 World Cups, criticized at the time, especially the first one, for the lack of goals and "attractive" results, now taste like glory. And now here's the "product" they wanted so much. Europan football is dead.

>>149438004 (OP)
I thought general consensus was that 2006 was a good WC though

>>149438079
in hindsight, sure
a lot of people hated it at the time

>>149438295
Same with sudafrica because of the vuvuzelas

>>149438004 (OP)
You need to be qualified to the world cup to be allowed to talk about football

>>149438004 (OP)
Nah 2008-12 Spain was soul and high IQ. Ngubus ruined the sport, not Guardiola.

>>149438346
It sucked because of the stupid ball too

>>149439090
There's a clear continuity between Guardiola's emergence at the end of the first decade of the century and the dreadful tie between Inter and Barcelona, where they couldn't defend and didn't care. A football for neophytes, lacking soul and meaningful moments.
It's a continuum, like that from Hegel to Marx or from Martin Luther to the Holocaust.

Enjoy the "product".

Italian football died because the money dried up. That's all there is to it. They were the original oilers even. It's all nostalgia.

>>149439823
I was there anon, I experienced it in the '90s and '00s. It's not just something in Italian football; it's football in general, where the soul of the game has been destroyed, and we have a substitute Guardiolist product that isn't the soulful football we knew before the arrival of the bald Catalan.

And I'm speaking to you as a South American: luckily in Argentina, and to a much lesser extent in Brazil, some of the essence of those years is still preserved because here they act like a time machine that keeps football as something truly important, the most important of the least important things. It's still bloody, violent, alive, organic, intense, passionate. As this sport should never have ceased to be. Not the sterile product with moral superiority that Guardiola sold you.

>>149439044
Damnit

>>149439090
>aMerifart invites himself to European banquet
GET THE FUCK OUT golem !

>>149439044
hello i think the Spanish NT is a big poo poo
signed
a country qualified for the nt

>>149439240
Yeah Ranieri said the same thing.
Also I think we could've saved and rebuilt the beautiful game but the new players come from either:
-degenerated societies (they're pussies)
-africa ('ggers)
-fucking asia lmfao
>as well as a bit on the nose with the american and israel citizens pumping money in Football and killing it.
FOOTBALL IS DEAD
Let's cherish what was once great, and switch to beach football instead.
(Neymar's 5v5?)

>>149440069
Don't forget Josep "pep" Guardiola is a closeted homosexual.

You can thank Eufemiano Fuentes and the Spanish doping state program for derailing the football timeline

>>149440454
Who took cocaine out of football Gianni ?

>>149440381

It's dead in Europe, but luckily we still have South America and the Argentine league with its passion and displays of charisma, taking football seriously and as it should be: a religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4OoVrBL5UA

This used to be the Bernabeu in the 90s when it was alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdZZ4NVtwws

>>149438004 (OP)
I domt know 1990 was a shitshow because of too much defense

the retards over here have confused tactics you apply to clubs and the ones you apply to national teams, you cant put a manager that plays fluid 4-3-3 football on a team that can barely string two passes, barely has strikers, no wingers... etc. etc.
why do you think we suck? because in clubs you can change your team's identity in a 5 year timespan, it takes two generations for a national team to change identities, thats why we suck, italy refuses to embrace its football identity.

instead of looking up at people who won a champions league with Porto, a Premier League with Leicester
we have all been mesmerized by massive frauds, those that need billions to win trophies with their systems, those who take 91 points second place as victories, those who say "we played well but lost"...

but dont worry, when they make the game fully mechanical, the only way to break deadlocks will be relying on creative number 10s again...

>>149440674
1990, not the whole '90s and the '00s when there was an equilibrium.

>>149440730
>the only way to break deadlocks will be relying on creative number 10s again
Based.

And please, bring us the classic trequartista.
Not only Italy, but all countries other than Spain need to return to the original sources and to the classics for a Renaissance to occur, but at the football level. For that, Guardiola and his disciples must first be defeated in all areas; it is a paradigm that must be destroyed. But most likely none of us will be able to witness that moment of rebirth in our lifetimes. It will mean preserving the flame of what this sport once was and passing the legacy on to future generations. For that, Argentina and, in part, Brazil must survive the influence from Europe, so that people can see the contrast between the "Guardiola product and modern football" and what football historically was.

>>149438004 (OP)
>Europan football is dead
Europe has a median age of 45. More is dead there than just football my dude.

As for football, commercialization is geared towards casuals. Casuals want to see goals. Football rules got adjusted to favor this outcome. The backpass, the tackles, etc. There was also evolution to the more (((efficient))) coach philosophy model. Players are now subject to play constrained in the coaches ideas. So when one coach outwits the system of another you get that perception that the other team is not trying coz they won't try to adjust in the game.

nigga you just saw some ronaldo and zidane clips on youtube pipe down

>>149438004 (OP)
Don't care. Didn't read.

>>149438004 (OP)
More scores = more viewers according to the usa-alligned ideas of what makes a sport "fun"
Hence why all the new rules of the last decades were geared to activelly discourage catenaccio and other defensive tactics (last one being the CWC rule punishing goalkeepers who keep the ball too much)

>you must know my opinions about europe o algo

>>149442628
>most illiterate paki

>>149438295
every asshole cynic hates everything at the time then looks back on it fondly because they're mentally ill