Unironically, what happened?

>>149526383 (OP)
They are legit terrible. Leagues below the top euro teams.

they aren't good

>>149526383 (OP)
Lamine yamal baloon d or is looking more shit by the day, look at this inter

>>149526383 (OP)
corruption and lack of talent

must be the coaching, literally not one fucking flair player that's italian that I can think of that you can put in a category of 'exciting'

something's gone to shit at the youth coaching level

>inter
New inexperienced manager playing pep ball with players used to catenaccio
>juventus
Unironically finished club kept alive because it is a recognizable brand in europe

philosophically bankrupt

Reminder that an italian team hasn't won the CL for 15 years so they don't count in the uefa v conmebol battle!

>>149526491
look at this shit against krauts they played recently, it's just grim, not one interesting cunt between the lot

>>149526491
every single discussion about italian football i've seen comes down to the fact that no italian player dribbles or knows how to dribble past players. that, or they have no creativity.

>>149526383 (OP)
They pipocated

>>149526491
Europe genetic stock has produced like only 5 flair players in 200 years of football. Whites are too autistic to play with flair

>>149526383 (OP)
They robbed us of a great PSG Bayern/Barca final. I will never forgive.

>>149526745
modern football killed midfielders with full control, basically italy and brazil got hited hard, now its about pace

>>149526491
it's very well known in italy that every single youth coach only wants to win, they don't give a fuck about developing talent, starting from the grassroots/juniors levels, so they only choose the largest and strongest kids that can outrun and overpower the other kids and win immediately, and they scream at them and take them out of the game if they try any individual action like dribbling past an opponent, whereas they drill tactical systems into them to maximize the chances to win

anime

Europeands cannot defend and cannot face a good defense.

>>149526775
Italy alone produced atleast 10 the last 20 years. The defined the trequartista role.

>>149526745

they didn't care

>>149526383 (OP)
Something is wrong with inter
Maybe they peaked physically against barcelona amlnd then dropped hard

>>149526718
Yeah I noticed that vs Norway, the Norwegians actually had the better players overall. Italy is fielding absolutely mid forwards like Raspadori and Retegui, and not even their defenders or midfielders are world-class, save for maybe Di Marco and Donnaruma

they implemented a rule that clubs could only sign 1 non eu player from outside of the country per season. less south american players hurt their league and their national team

>>149526775
>monkey opinion on genetics
What's next, quantum mechanics?

>>149526718
>>149527033
delusional
midfield and defense are world class
it's forwards that are nowhere to be seen
the last time italy had good forwards was the 2012-2014 period with Balotelli and Cassano

>>149526383 (OP)
They sent the wrong Milano club

>>149526718
You do realize a team can win without being 'interesting' or 'flair' right, you dumb faggot?

gio scotti
mi amore

>>149526745
miss me yet?
i remember how much midwits criticized him
even while being a fat ass and after a heart surgery he would still be the best italian forward if he played today

>>149526491
fifa cucked their youth development method. they used to have co-ownership which nobody on here knows about because they're all zoomers. also, italy is quite old so less youth players i guess

Inter played well. They absolutely played like the UCL finalists that they are.

Fluminense just played better.

Inter didn't lose this game, Fluminense won it.

>>149527089
Which Italian player is world-class save for the two I've mentioned? The next best one is Barella and he'd struggle to fit in the top 25

>>149527276
top 25 in his position, that is

>>149527276
Barella and Bastoni for startings, literally the best players in activity in their roles
you can seethe about it but its true

>>149527315
Unless you consider their "roles" some very specific ones, Barella isn't first shelf. He'd be a good sidekick if you had some better midfielders, he would not embarass a top-tier team like so. But he can't make a team top-tier.

I'll give you Bastoni, probably top 15 or even 10 defenders. That's 3 world-class players. I've seen Senegal or Ivory Coast field that many in their heyday

You can't possibly be proud of that! I remember Italy had contenders for top 5 in many if not most positions, the best goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders and forwards. Now you have to count on your fingers

>>149527124
have I mentioned somewhere that they can't, you dumb cuntface? or are you going to bring up some other utter nonsense that somehow popped in that void area inside your fucking head and try to argue against it as well?

>>149526383 (OP)
romanian manager

I think it's very telling when this Boca reject becomes the most dominant striker in Serie A and Italy's number 9

>>149526383 (OP)
They wanted to cry in peace because they lost the CL. This tournament got in the way of that.

those are the players that came in the said match against germany too, not one good player between them

>>149527009
pafundi? More like refundi

>>149527070
>>149526997
Can you list any fun european player since 2000? Keep in mind zlatan is marginal as he is a balkanoid dunecoon. They also have to be ethnically european.

>>149526997
>trequartista
Reddit. Show me this flair lol

>>149527705
It's only Eden Hazard. Europoids shill shitters like Kroos as le intelligent.

>>149527070
>Polish being racist
Lol

>>149527501
I'm sorry that your only argument regarding pastatards decline was that they don't have flashy and "exciting" enough players

>>149527705
Europoids don't like fun in football. Don't you see how they chimp out when a play does anything remotely entertaining? Their meta now is 5-meter passing and wingers who can't dribble for shit. This is why they gaslight you into accepting shitters like Kroos are le Intelligent and mass produce black wingers who have had flair coached out of them. Goymerny for example consider Gotzee a flair player lmao.

>>149527799
there's more than one argument to what I said and you could see it if you weren't a retarded monkey yourself

I'd love to say that I look forward to hearing your diagnosis but I'd be lying as I don't give a flying fuck what an absolute inbred imbecile of your breed can spout so how about you just go and fuck yourself and take your worthless ideas back to the schizoland

>>149527749
>farming equipment trying to have opinions
Lol

>>149527315
>bastoni best CB in the world
kek sure buddy

>>149527929
>war fodder calling anyone equipment
Lol

>>149527705
cr7 that said he is 1/8 african

>>149527892
>there's more than one argument to what I said
Wowie let's see
Argument one:
>look at this shit against krauts they played recently, not one interesting cunt between the lot
Argument two:
>literally not one fucking flair player that's italian that I can think of that you can put in a category of 'exciting'
Such a wild variety of arguments anon, you're quite a football philosopher. You could become an analyst in Seychelles or Brazil with that insights of yours.
Seriously though, are you that subhuman english PSG supporter? Because the inbreeding accusation seems like an obvious projection. Wrap up your two braincells together.

>>149526383 (OP)
Corruption, laws and some big clubs not being owners of their stadiums. Corruption was probably the main factor, but as far as I know taxes and laws aren't as favorable for football compared to other top European countries, and the fact that clubs like Inter and Milan aren't owners of their stadium doesn't help either.

There's also the fact that the Italian style is really outdated and doesn't perform very well at the top.

I'm surprised with the weakness of them. Not even joking. I remember that they always had those crazy squads.
Buffon, Maldini, Nesta, Chiellini, Pirlo, Gattuso, De Rossi, Totti... And I'm sure I'm forgetting some names.

But then, not many teams are this stacked. Only England, Spain, Portugal and France.

the money ran out
people forget that serie a was the original soulless money league

>>149526383 (OP)
inter ya nan

>>149526383 (OP)
what do you mean? we won

>>149526718
>Alessandro Buongiorno
Imagine being called Alexander Good Morning.

>>149528630
All milan btw

>>149535722
ah yes, Buffon, Chiellini, De Rossi and Totti
famously milan players

>>149526718
>3—5—2
there is the issue

also
>>149526718
>not one interesting cunt
Barella is good

>>149527009
>le pacey midget
lel

>>149538256
That's the most popular formation in Serie A. It makes sense that Italy would use it.

>>149538113
Nesta too should be considered a Nazio player, he got scooped up by Milan just because they weren't struggling financially (yet)

>>149526383 (OP)
They have no money. It's that simple.
The EPL overall and the Arab state-sponsored clubs in particular have inflated the transfer market and salaries so much that they can't compete anymore. No one care other than the 3 other gigaclubs from Spain and Germany that have basically become global brands on par with the top EPL teams.
The Italian teams, even the mid table ones, are still globally recognizable thanks to their peak in the 90s, but their revenues have not kept up and newer generations outside of Italy are exposed to them less and less.

>>149526832
So they went full retard with catenaccio and win at all cost....wow.
Italians are really a miracle, stupid people blessed with such rich place and genetics.

All they need is let kids play and wait for the pirlos tottis baggios..but old stupid just wanna win, that explain so manny ngubus

>>149526383 (OP)
Didn't have the chance to watch the UCL final. Watched this one and now I understand why they ate 5 from PSG

>>149528042
>>149527501
Polands bros...

>>149538992
Having money is one thing

Not able to produce talent is another, catennaccio killed italian talent same as modern futbol killed brasilian skill

>>149526383 (OP)

1. demographics: italy is a retiree country
2. immigration policy: the largest source of talent for the italian team in the last two decades have been argentinian/brazilian immigrants with capacity to have dual citizenship with italy, and they decide its a good idea to stop that pathway

its very simple.

>>149526383 (OP)
When you play prioritizing defense, you will eventually fail, so you need a really good offense to compensate... Which isn't the case with Inter.

Lautaro is a complete fraud as proven by the many times he has disappeared in important moments.

>>149540061
why would inter prioritize defense when they are so shit at it

>>149540013
>Not able to produce talent is another
They'll probably produce more talent as their league transitions into a feeder league like the Portuguese and Dutch (and South American) leagues, since the clubs will need to develop and sell talent to survive.
Their demographics aren't the best but I'm pretty sure they can find people willing to play ball if they re-structure their clubs around prioritising that.

>>149540000
what did you even mean by wasting quads on this meaningless reply you literal nigger

>>149540013
>>149539967
>>149540061
is catenaccio in the room with us right now?
all italian teams have been playing the baldo's way for decades. the era of catenaccio on the other hand was the era where the likes of Zola and Baggio grew up.
you got it exactly backwards, dumb idiots. italian football died the day we stopped parking that fucking bus.

>>149541374
People stopped watching the Serie A and just assume Italian football is Mourinho's Inter, epic 1-0 slurpers and 5-4-1 vs 4-1-4-1. It's ridiculous how many people bravely share their opinions based off the assumption that Italian football is still played like it's the 1990 World Cup.

>>149541487
>just assume Italian football is Mourinho's Inter
>based off the assumption that Italian football is still played like it's the 1990 World Cup.
god i fucking wish

>>149526383 (OP)
same thing that's happening to our league, except they don't export as much as we

>>149540201
Because they have shit offense compared to their peers in the UCL

>>149541374
Binter was more defensive than anyone else in this UCL though

>>149526383 (OP)
Gave women the right to vote. It's been downhill ever since

>>149526775
The discussion is about Italians though

>>149527705

Hazard
Robben
Bale to some extent

That's probably it.

>>149527705
Berbatov

At least italian men are sill hot

>>149557461

>>149526491
Barella is pretty cool

>>149526775
Baggio and Pirlo had more flair than the entire African continent combined

>>149527705
Bendtner

>>149526383 (OP)
penis

>>149526383 (OP)
They are too focused on making cars and shitty pizzas with poor topping distribution to care about sawker.

Guys calm down, Italy isn't a soccer nation

They are a winter sports nation now.

>>149526383 (OP)
Soccer? We are more of a Tennis nation now

>>149526794
They gave us one of the greatest semifinals ever. It's all forgiven in my books.

>>149526775
>italians
>white

>>149585821
You're Indian

>>149585832
You're mexican.