Will there be a second edition of the fifa cwc?

>>149647191 (OP)
FIFA will definitely try, this new event was supposed to be the hottest thing ever after all, and giving up right away would make them look like dorks. Even FIFA bigwigs with their huge egos and all these delusions know that
There still are ways for some people to make profit with this event, so it will probably stick around for one or two more iterations in hopes of it eventually blowing up
But replacing or repeating that 1 billion Saudi broadcasting deal might make or break that entire endeavor
Fact is: a four-year-cycle for clubs is retarded, the assembled clubs are neither at their peak nor the very elite, and interest so far was mediocre. They need to change a few things if they want it to be a success, but even then, it remains risky

it's pathetic how thirdies count CWCs for their team records and euros don't despite winning what, the last 15 years straight? lmao

>>149647191 (OP)
It's a much better format than the usual tournament held at the end of the year with 6 teams, hopefully by 2029 they'll find a way to make yuros realize that they don't get a free pass to the finals in this one so they'll hopefully start caring.

Probably. Barcelona and Liverpool were frustrated they were left out, and FIFA has brought up the possibility of increasing the number of participants to 48. The competition has been a viewership success in Latin America, and you also saw enthusiasm in other non-European countries with participants (Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Japan et cetera).
I don't believe in a UEFA boycott like some other people do. But they definitely need to sort things out to make future editions viable. The competition works partly because of the massive prizes conceded to the participants, which are in turn funded by Saudi money that will hardly be available forever (in fact, it's likely that they only did it this time to secure the 2034 bid). The competition will need better scheduling, better marketing strategies towards European fans, and some way to solve the attendance disaster (perhaps hosting it in a more fitting country?).

>>149647337
>>149647337
Qualification remains the biggest challenge, I think. Ditching the four-year cycle would mean that either you'd need:
A) A separate qualifying tournament like in international football, which I think would be ridiculous and would load the calendar even further.
B) Setting qualification based on the performance of the immediate previous season or the previous two seasons before the CWC. Which would be underwhelming especially in continents like South America (where the interest in the tournament is much higher). I can imagine the disappointment if fans and clubs learnt that 3/4 of Libertadores cups played wouldn't grant you a spot in the CWC, and only one of them would be "the real deal". All I can think of is trying to tweak the ranking system to avoid things like the less than qualified Portuguese duo (both of which are weaker than Sporting) representing UEFA. But then also, I think the cup would feel stale if we just had Prem+Barçadrid+PSG+Bayern for Europe and the Brasileirão for South America. As much as Bover might be shit right now, the competition would feel much less like a Club World Cup if we had no Argentinians whatsoever and instead brought along Atlético-MG and Cruzeiro. FIFA executives have to find a balance between keeping the tournament diverse enough to be exciting (and to win multiple markets) without giving away the quality of the teams. But if it was just about "the best", it'd just be a UCL recreation with less soul and 6 or 8 international guests.

>>149647191 (OP)
Yeah in 29

>>149648661
It's a pricing not interest issue. People won't pay $300 for the worst seat in the stadium and >$1500 for a main tribune ticket for Botafogo vs Al Hilala and fans won't travel facing a $20k trip to see glorified friendlies in the post season.
Price it like Wyman Euro and I guarantee full stadiums and a good vibe.

>>149648734
i doubt the cwc would be less interesting if we had barca, liverpool and arsenal instead of porto, benfica and salzburg

i'd get rid of the 2 country cap for europe and have the last 4 cl winners qualify i.e. 2026,2027,2028 and 2029. also, i'd give like 9 spots to south america this time. you gotta get the kickoff times and prices correct too

do you think under this format we'd have all games sold out if the tournament was in brazil

>>149647337
>a four-year-cycle for clubs is retarded
idk, man. a smaller cycle could be just as retarded. imagine a top pl club doesn't qualify for the cl one year. with a small cycle that could hurt them really badly. if the cycle is one year, it mitigates that blip and then engclubs can btfo you like we usually do in the cl

>>149647666
The old format is superior, except for the host. An annual tournament featuring the continental champions. No questions needed about who should be there, the rhythm, the strain regarding the schedule
It’s not the big hype event FIFA wants, but is the better event. And I regret that UEFA doesn’t really care about it, even though it is only appropriate to admit that no intercontinental event will ever truly rival the CL

>>149649033
that's just a glorified friendly though, much like community shield or european super cup. it should be a proper tournament or not exist at all

>>149648859
But then they'd only make $500 million instead of a billion

>>149649123
Implying this garbage is a proper tournament
Intercontinental competition is needed. But is is supposed to answer the question of which club has the best team. This new TikTok festival doesn’t answer that question, the four year cycle is flawed since it lets clubs enter with completely different teams than those who put out the „qualifying“ performance. 2020 Bayern would have been the favorites for a 2020 new CWC, but 2023 Bayern already weren’t. It depends on when it takes place. The value of such a tournament is low. I recognize that the new approach is more hype, and that’s what FIFA wants since it means more cash. But that doesn’t make it a proper tournament, far from it. It answers nothing. It is worthless as far as sports are concerned. An annual event with the continental champions is as fair as it gets, it should be possible to elevate that

>>149649357
>Implying this garbage is a proper tournament
you were implying the other tournament was proper, cuck. this is much better than the other tournament

>Intercontinental competition is needed
not really

>This new TikTok festival doesn’t answer that question, the four year cycle is flawed since it lets clubs enter with completely different teams than those who put out the „qualifying“ performance
how good are you really if you can't perform over 4 years?

>>149649423
Chelsea turned shit in that period and then got decent again, City just got embarrassed by Al-Hilal … hmmmmmm
The new format is for FIFA dickriders and brown zoomers with five seconds attention span. Congratulations, you are at least one of these! Now kys, please

>>149649490
>Chelsea turned shit in that period and then got decent again, City just got embarrassed by Al-Hilal … hmmmmmm
yeah exactly they're cucks just like your entire nation and the Brazilians

>The new format is for FIFA dickriders and brown zoomers with five seconds attention span. Congratulations, you are at least one of these! Now kys, please
congratulations you just talked about the new competition way more than you ever talked about the old one. you played yourself, cuck

>>149649531
Holy shit are you dumb, it is legit unbelievable
Final (You), enjoy

>>149648859
When I talk about interest I also mean viewership on TV/streaming. Some of the most popular matches in Brazil had over 20mi viewers in a single YouTube channel. And that still leaves out the free broadcast on TV and the psychopaths who are watching it on DAZN. Compare it to the UK where you get at best around 1.5mi for a Chelsea game. If the tournament is to be profitable and viable, they need to find a way to make Euros care.
>>149648921
>do you think under this format we'd have all games sold out if the tournament was in brazil
Definitely not. Games from local clubs would probably sell out, counting Argentinians as locals too. Big games like, say, Liverpool v Chelsea or Real Madrid v Dortmund would also definitely sell out. But like the real World Cup, the format has the inherent problem of needing to bring clubs nobody cares about and whose fans probably won't travel around the planet for. You wouldn't find 75k people in Rio willing to watch Ulsan High Definition v Mamelodi Sundowns.
FIFA would also have to change the scheduling one way or another. Even here the WC would flop if games were played at 1PM on weekdays like it happened in America.

>>149649610
this cuck got trolled to death and now he can't even (You) me again without contradicting himself. England wins again

>>149649033
>An annual tournament featuring the continental champions.
Sure it sounds good on paper, but then a few teams have to play 3 games, another bunch arrives 2 days before playing because of their country's tight calendar, and the CL winner gets a free pass to the finals. It's no wonder not a single European team cares about it.

>>149649615
>You wouldn't find 75k people in Rio willing to watch Ulsan High Definition v Mamelodi Sundowns
you could play games like this on those continents

>>149649805
The schedule issue is much worse with the new format. Fitting a shorter tournament into the calendar is easier, it just depends on when exactly it takes place
And the CL winner obviously shouldn’t be given a wave to the final. I am open to whatever change of the format as long as the only participants are the continental champions and the overall number of games per team is lower than the amount of participants. I know that is unrealistic since FIFA want their huge hype event, but I only want a short and sweet tournament that isn’t too much of a schedule burden

>>149649829
But then either you'd end up having clubs playing some kind of continental playoffs before the main event (which would be redundant since we all already have continental cups) or you'd have insane travel logistics. I think a few group stage slurpers with low attendance are manageable as long as they stay contained to just that.

>>149649615
Trying to fill a stadium of that size for such a game is insanity from the start. Ghana and Peru usually don’t face off at the biggest World Cup stadium either. A 30,000 seater would do just fine for such an underdog game with low interest. The tickets must be cheap. Maybe it won’t be sold out, but damage can be mitigated

>>149649992
Two groups of three, CL and Libertadores champs as group heads, two games, top two go to the HF over cross and a final. Then send it to places that actually care about football and 2 max 3 venues that are pretty close to each other and it will be a hit that will attract actual fans to travel and watch it.
Just imagine that thing in the US play the group stages in the MLS Stadiums, Subaru Park Philly and Red Bull arena NJ and the HF/Final in the Met. It would be a great tournament and I would go there for it.

>>149647373
There hasn't been a tournament like this ever. The previous Intercontinental was pretty much head o to head in amount of titles. Plus you gotta remember Conmebol created their continental championshio as an answer to the creation of the CL, to be able to challenge the European champion, so that's literally in their blood.

>>149647191 (OP)
Fifa dont usually lose

>>149647191 (OP)
Definitely. With this being the first edition, FIFA will excuse any potential misses or failures as "natural" and will promise to iron them out for the next one; then just try to get this to stick through force of habit like they do everything else (think of any game rule or competition format people complain about; many of us are STILL bitching about VAR and we'll continue to do so until the day we die, but the thing's obviously not going anywhere).

We'll only know if this thing stays after its second or third edition. Either the euros Care™ (and it's expanded into 48 teams to add even more euros, ofc), or Europe successfully gives them the cold shoulder for long enough that FIFA gets tired of throwing money into the pit and silently kill it off without ever giving an official reason as to why (admitting defeat would be the death of them).

>>149647191 (OP)

Let's get down let's get down to business give you one more night one more night to get this we've had a million million nights just like this so let's get down let's get down to business mama please don't worry 'bout me cause I'm about to let my heart speak my friends keep telling me to leave this so let's get down let's get down to business

>>149664658
the WC final should be here. not that dogshit stadium.

>>149668549
sovl
>>149664658
soulless

>>149664658
Meti laifi

I heard clubs want to do it every other year. To them it's free money.

can’t beilieve this shit still isn’t over