Thread 149727921

We are back
And next year we will be back in Champions League, too

>>149727921 (OP)
NUR

HIV attention whore already proving he doesn't deserve the promotion

>>149727921 (OP)
You might be some sort of falseflagger. Either way, please shut the fuck up. 15th place and better would be glorious already, miss me with reaching the CL bigwig wankfest right away only for Bayern or even Dortmund to steal all our interesting players
Slow and steady is the way to go

>>149728820
Nah, we are back and we deserve to be cocky
Sound transfers? Check
Goated manager? Check
Vibes carrying over from promotion? Check!
If Heidenheim can reach Conference, Champions should be absolutely doable for us!

>>149728880
Bro, seriously

>>149728923
We will take revenge this year by sending them back to zwundes where they belong

>>149728948
What? Whos gonna stop us? Kackbach? Cuckmund? Kek

>>149728983
Ok but this goal set you back 6 years

>>149729048
Which is why revenge will only taste sweeter.

WE'RE WINNING THE SCHALE AND THE POKAL

>>149728948
kys cuck

>>149729048
Different anon, but I am somewhat happy with where we are now. These seven years sucked, but I kind of think they were necessary. We've got a new and more humble club philosophy, finances are fine again. I am under the impression that this penance led to positive change that wouldn't have come otherwise. Of course, the rest of the Bundesliga has moved away from us in the mean time, and establishing the club there anew will be tough. But the momentum and the necessary basic structures are there. Now we "only" need a functioning squad for that crucial first two years while developing the youth academy some more.
I don't like saying it, but we deserved to go down in 2018. Now we must do better, and we actually have the chance do better

>>149729091
Holy based.

>>149728923
That game isn't even in the most top 10 of hurtful defeats since 2018
They were somewhat deserved. Nobody is mad at Heidenheim for that, and nobody gloats about having trounced them 5:0 some years after that.
We only got scammed in 22/23, with them being the main profiteers

>>149727921 (OP)
wishing you all the best from a rangers fan

>>149729331
Thx

>>149729341
You were the one pretending this game is a big deal, silly

I miss Kaiserslautern

>>149729413
They aren’t that far away from getting promoted, but I wouldn’t count on them this season. There are lots of cool clubs in 2nd Bundes, we are pretty unlikely to get a super boring new Bundes member anytime soon

>>149727921 (OP)
give more players to Tottenham

>>149730778
Daffeh for Sonaldo swap deal?

>>149727921 (OP)
how big is the rivalry with sankt pauli?

>>149731401
They are faggots that can rot in hell and its annoying that they have good sporting management now
Seeing them dominate the 2. Buli in their promotion year felt humiliating and I want us to beat them twice this season

>>149731401
It's one of the most fierce in Germany, but Hamburg's main rival is Bremen. Both clubs have been historic rivals fighting for supremacy in northern Germany since before WW2, the rivalry between the cities goes back to the Middle Ages.
St. Pauli is what it is now since about the early 80s, that's when the rivalry with HSV we know truly started. Not like they loved each other before that since they were city rivals, but especially between the first Bundesliga season and like 1985, both clubs had little to do with another: HSV was one of the biggest clubs in the country and never played St. Pauli. I've been told that a quite a few people even supported both clubs. With their new anarcho-leftie image change, St. Pauli began sharpening the rivalry with HSV, who had a few openly right-wing hool groups back then.
Things really kicked off in 2018, when HSV finally got relegated for the first time. Now both were in the same league. St. Pauli had closed the gap significantly. That's when HSV's attention had to shift a bit, less focused on Bremen and more focused on St. Pauli. Today, that rivalry is bigger and more emotional than ever. It's always been big for political reasons (HSV isn't right-wing by any means, but compared to and in the eyes of St. Pauli, everything is), but now it has become a somewhat regular sight with actual city supremacy on the line, even though HSV remains much bigger in most aspects. They've squandered their lead, so to say

>>149731401
Sportive value has been low for ages, but now it's pretty big since HSV decided to take a 15 year vacation and turn retarded
The emotional value has always been high

It depends on how you see it. Both clubs take this really seriously. Pauli fans are obsessed with being seen as "the actual club of Hamburg" while HSV fans have really become paranoid and mindbroken by their consistent failures in recent years. That's why they kinda fear derbies with Pauli, it's theirs to lose and they've gotten a taste of it after having been way above Pauli's level for >100 years.
HSV can basically only lose these games because of the historic divide between the clubs: if Pauli wins, HSV gets clowned HARD. If HSV wins, they've only repeated what has always been the case. In case of a tie, HSV has still failed
That's why the chimpout and autism power of this derby is high, it's very cinematic, and fights for a single city are usually more intense in general. But it's not really a defining sports duel with a big history on its own

>>149731401
We dicked HSV hard in recent years, kek
Looking forward to see it continue next season

>>149732744
>we

>>149727921 (OP)
Rooting for you

>>149733445
Thanks, bro
Are you a Kopenhagen fan? Either way, nice of you. It will be a tough season ...

>>149732647
>>149732458
>>149731565
thanks anons, very insightful

>>149732744
considering how pregnant left-wing politics are in sankt pauli's identity, are all fans ideologically aligned, or is there a portion that don't care about those things?

>HIVs think they will made CL
forever delusional

>>149740875
>or is there a portion that don't care about those things?
You can't define St. Pauli without the politics. Everyone who supports St. Pauli either actively supports the left wing causes or is silently okay with it.

>>149727921 (OP)
Nottingham Forest's bitches.

>>149740875
Good question. As an outsider, it seems like people must be really gullible to not care about St. Pauli's political identity at all. As you've said, it is everywhere. That's what the club is known for. There must be a few people who aren't inherently political, but compared to other football clubs, that share must be hilariously low.
As has already been said, St. Pauli wasn't always like this. They started this movement in the late 70s and had taken over by the mid-80s. Surely there are a few families/people left who were fans of the club before said change already and therefore don't really care, but many of these people could have abandoned the club since - quite frankly - it wasn't "theirs" anymore
There was a a bit of a shift: people pissed off by the right-wing hool groups in HSV's vicinity (they were never a majority, but the club didn't specifically combat them) became the "new Pauli" fans, that might have pushed a few people from "old Pauli" to HSV ... at least eventually. Nowadays, you obviously can't just switch between the clubs since you'd be immediately outed as a super plastic faggot

What about schalke

HIV bro is it true that your stadium is shit? i remember some german anon say it was old and in desperate need of renewal

>>149741170
>who were fans of the club before
those people were almost certain already left leaning because the only fans they had were from the anarchist St. Pauli district anyway.

>>149741181
>schalke

>>149741194
it needs to be burned to the ground, preferably with the people still in it

>>149741194
It's not shit, it's doing fine. But it required a big overhaul for the Euros. It will be shit in 20 years. For now, it's fine. Unfortunately, 90s stadium projects were often built somewhat lazily, and the stadium still stands on top of structures from 1950. These are old
As of now, the stadium is fine. But prior to the renovation, you could see it was getting a bit old. Without the 30 million the renovation cost, there wouldn't have been Euro games in Germany's second-biggest city. Now take that 20 years into the future and you can see why HSV is happy with a new stadium being on the horizon
Currently, the main issue HSV has with the stadium as it is is that it's too small. But not way too small
>>149741181
They are stuck in 2nd Bundes and not close to getting promoted. They will need to get their shit together soon. You can't realistically expect them to get promoted this season, they were lucky to not get relegated last time. Finances are still pretty dire and the club is as chaotic as ever. Their youth development has also gotten worse, it seems. If everything goes realistically well, they can be promotion material in 2 to 3 years. Staying in Bundes will be a different beast, they don't have the money for that as of now

>>149741251
holy mother of seethe

>>149741252
how many socios do HSV have?

>>149741236
I doubt everyone there always was this gay and retarded (not to mention hypocritical), but it is indeed evident that some people there were

>>149741302
People paying for membership? About 125,000. Currently rising relatively quickly. Or what do you mean?

>>149727921 (OP)
I think if everything goes perfectly well, >we can finish 12th. But everything above 16th would be mission accomplished, and that will be challenging enough
I like the transfers so far, but we still need at least one good CB and at least one good OM. Probably a good RB as well. I am also not sure about Poulsen allegedly coming here. A good striker is needed, but Poulsen hasn’t been fully fit in ages

>>149741311
>HURR DURR U GAY
this is exactly why we keep fighting and keep making you seethe

>>149741475
I only see (You) seething here, bud
Everyone knows Faulis only exist to think about HSV 24/7 because you live in this fantasy world where you are the true representatives of Hamburg … and also not annoying
I do respect the hustle though, nobody can deny that the last years were used wisely

HSVbros...did we get too cocky?

>>149727921 (OP)
Hamburg is where The Beatles got their first STDs

>>149728065
We already had one thread about this but good luck to the original hamburgers

>Losing to Copenhagen
Hamburger Seethe Very

>>149741760
TRVST THV PLVN
Kopenhagen is a few weeks ahead in their season prep, their season starts next week while the Bundesliga doesn’t start till the end of August. It’s not surprising at all so far. Also, the squad still isn’t finished either and the tactics are still being adjusted (from a possession-based dominant team in 2nd Bundes to a more aggressive counter team capable of defending better in Bundes)
We only want to stay in the league, nothing so far has given the impression that this isn’t possible

>>149741818
We are frens, there is no need to seethe about a test game against a club we are friends with
Especially not when they are six weeks ahead in preparation

>>149741818
Copingfagen

>>149741836
Hamburg will always be my favourite German club as the 80s supporters all named their kids after Kevin Keegan. They bought a dud though, should've gone for Trevor Francis.

>>149741900
When should they have bought him? 1979? Could have been interesting for sure, though …
Did you know Keegan is mentioned in one of HSV‘s anthems, „Wir sind schlau, wir sind Fans vom HSV“? In the same breath as Beckenbauer and right after Uwe Seeler and Charly Dörfel. That’s obviously to be expected, he’s a real legend after all

Decent first half. Still a lot of work ahead of course, but given where the team currently stands leading to the season, this was fine. New transfers are still needed (Mikelbrencis is still too rough around the edges to count on him, the offensive power is still not quite there either), the tactics still have to be fully implemented … but it wasn’t bad
Second half will be more of a meme, I think. A few players there have no real place in the final squad

Without knowing anything about Kopenhagen‘s squad depth, this second half should see them pull away. Suhonen and Ramos will likely be sold, Schonlau is still a bit questionable, Jatta has been injured for ages

>>149742057
>when
Probably before he went to forest. He's from Birmingham, looks like keegan to a foreigner, better player but even more boring, which is al.ost intolerable...but that's bc he's from Birmingham, so it's a bit like when we excuse the Dutch for being rude...you get me?
>anthem
Didn't realise but good to know

GG, Danebros
We still have to improve, but this wasn’t bad

I take from this match that
>Philippe might be better off as a central striker than on the right wing after all
>we definitely need more quality on the striker position and a good offensive midfielder
>Soumahoro is very promising
>Sahiti was better than expected on the right wing
>Hefti might be good enough for the RB position after all, but it's still up to debate. Mikelbrencis is still too inexperienced, he'd get eaten alive
>Ramos kind of was a bum in 2nd Bundes, but this was so good that keeping him is actually an option now
Remberg was good, Elfadli didn't have his best day. Glatzel and Jatta will struggle at this rate
We're still like five new players away from a really good squad

>>149727921 (OP)
Bundes