Can they be stopped?

My Steelers :)

Niggers tongue my anus

• fewer playoff wins than Tom Brady

• fewer Superbowl MVPs than Tom Brady

• fewer TDs per Super Bowl than Tom Brady

• More INTs per Super Bowl than Tom Brady

• Lowest win rate of all time against Tom Brady in the playoffs (technically tied for last since you can't go lower than ZERO, lol)

• Has fewer AFCCG appearances in a row than Tom Brady

• Only QB to lose to Tom Brady in both the AFCCG and the Super Bowl

• More playoff losses by age 29 than Tom Brady

• Only quarterback in NFL history to ever lose his WR1, WR2, RB1, RB2 and LT

• 2nd most playoff wins of all time

• 2nd most Superbowl MVPs of all time

• Most TDs per game in NFL history

• Most Yards per game in NFL history

• Highest win rate of all time

• More division titles (7) than division loses (5).

• Never missed championship round in 20s

• Only QB to throw for 5k yards in pros/college

• Only player to have 3 Superbowl MVPs in 20s

• 2nd most pass TDs of all time in playoffs

• Most rush yards in Super Bowls among QBs

>>149755886
You MF.

More TDs
More Wins
More Yards
More MVPs
More Accuracy
More Superbowls
More Passer Rating

>>149755887

Pic related is the best player in football right now

>>149755877
Bo Nix....you don't have to share that with us.

>Did she know he was trouble when he walked in?

>Taylor Swift’s fans are expressing concern after the singer partied with Jackson Mahomes while supporting her beau, Travis Kelce, at the Kansas City Chiefs game.

>Patrick Mahomes’ younger brother, who was charged with three felony counts of aggravated sexual battery in May and has a hearing scheduled for Tuesday, could be seen behind Swift in many clips from Sunday’s face-off against the Los Angeles Chargers.

>Jackson, 23, was even included in Swift’s special handshake with Patrick’s wife, Brittany Mahomes, as the songwriter, 33, high-fived him.

>Many “scared” social media users begged Swift’s team to “keep him away” from her at future matches, saying the footage made them “want to puke.”

KWAB lil bro Mahomes gives off massive ick vibes to the swifties

>>149755909
>supporting her beau
her beau?
tf does that mean?

News:
Five-time Pro Bowl DT Ndamukong Suh officially announces retirement after 13 seasons
Dolphins' Jaylen Waddle looks to move past 2024 struggles: 'Definitely the year that I didn't want as an individual'
General manager Ryan Poles, Bears agree to extension through 2029 season
Niners' Kyle Juszczyk expects RB Christian McCaffrey to return to form in 2025: 'He looks incredible'
Lions pass rusher Aidan Hutchinson (leg) 'exactly where I need to be' ahead of training camp
Cowboys rookie guard Tyler Booker aims to bring 'passion and desire' to Dallas

>>149755909
>KWAB lil bro Mahomes gives off massive ick vibes to the swifties
So does half the NFL rosters all of which have domestic violence charges. Who cares what they think.

>>149755903
ngl lamar is the black qb that everyone has been fearing for decades
they found one of those inner city kids that can actually throw the football
it's fucking over
less than a decade later and shroud and daniels are already top 10 qbs

>>149755917
>Five-time Pro Bowl DT Ndamukong Suh officially announces retirement after 13 seasons

Big F for Donkey Kong Suh. *huff* posting during the Bucs Superbowl run was so fun. I actually made this copypasta myself more than a week before the owl. Good times. He will likely make HOF but not 1st ballot

>>149755897
>he doesn't know about early 2000s defenses

>>149756013
There isn't a player in today's NFL that would justify this kind of thing.

>>149756013
He stat mogs everyone from all eras (including the seasons he overlaps with Brady) so it's kind of a silly point you're making.

Brady's stats weren't special back then, he only averaged 3,500 yards whereas Peyton averaged 4k yards in his 20s.

Mahomes isn't competing against Brady, he's competing against Peyton and Rodgers who actually had good stats in their 20s.

What's this dude's obsession with Brady?
Little brother ahhh syndrome

>>149756013
He stat mogs everyone from all eras (including the seasons he overlaps with Brady) so it's kind of a silly point you're making.

Brady's stats weren't special back then, he only averaged 3,500 yards whereas Peyton averaged 4k yards in his 20s.

Mahomes isn't competing against Brady, he's competing against Peyton and Rodgers who actually had good stats in their 20s.

>>149756279
Why don't you ask this anon why he keeps doing goat debates >>149755886 I'm just responding to him

6-11

>>149756271
Refresh the page. You got played.

>>149756305
Ooof

>>149756288
Yeah but you spend every waking hour spamming and the moment someone disagrees with you, you go haywire. What's the cause of this?

>>149756300
The league is sabotaging the Chiefs

>Week 1
You get to play the #1 ranked defense from 2024! Oh, and you have to take an 18 hour plane ride to Brazil!

>Week 2
Hope you enjoyed your 2 day flight. Now you get to play the 2nd ranked defense from 2024 AND the defending Superbowl champs! Good luck.

>>149756339
I come to this chinese imageboard to talk about my team unlike some of you guys who come here to troll about other people's teams. I like winning debates and Mahomes makes it easy mode.

I don't start the goat debates, I just finish them. They are inherently stupid since we have no clue how Mahomes career will turn out. Brady is the goat.

I'm just stating a fact that Mahomes objectively has the best start to a career at this age. Not sure why that bothers the Brady bots so much.

>>149756300
The league is sabotaging the Chiefs

>Week 1
You get to play the #1 ranked defense from 2024! Oh, and you have to take an 18 hour plane ride to Brazil!

>Week 2
Hope you enjoyed your 2 day flight. Now you get to play the 2nd ranked defense from 2024 AND the defending Superbowl champs! Good luck.

This is padding

>>149756300
The league is sabotaging the Chiefs

>Week 1
You get to play the #1 ranked defense from 2024! Oh, and you have to take an 18 hour plane ride to Brazil!

>Week 2
Hope you enjoyed your 2 day flight. Now you get to play the 2nd ranked defense from 2024 AND the defending Superbowl champs! Good luck.

u mad lol?

>Anon hurriedly mashes the delete button, hoping nobody sees the shame of him being pwned for the third time in a row

Baker Mayfield > pattie cuckatini

Allen>Lamar>Baker>Burrow>Daniels>Stroud>Hurts>Mahomes

>>149756431
The record is now 1-1 since i won last time.

>>149756455

>>149756481
>The record is now 1-1 since i won last time.
Individual skirmishes count. I'm 6-2

Not sure why the player's union agreed to international games. That's a long plane ride.

>>149756481
If Mahomes had half the bums Allen has on receivers/defense, he'd never make it past the divisional

>>149756560
>Allen hasn't had a top 6 defense for most of his career
>Allen never had a top 3 WR in Stephon Diggs
Are we rewriting history now.

>>149756586
Who are you quoting?

>>149756586
>>Allen never had a top 3 WR in Stephon Diggs
>one (1) good WR
Thanks for proving my point. Allen has had plumbers to throw too his whole career

I've been online clicking and pointing on men all day.
First person shooter games of course.
What did you think I meant.

#freejudkins

>>149756455
Funny that the last two guys won superbowls and the others beside Burrow never even appeared in one. But seriously someone needs to get Burrow the fuck out of Cincy while he's still young.

>>149756825
>Funny that the last two guys won superbowls and the others beside Burrow never even appeared in one
Turns out that football is still a team sport

>>149756455
>>149756619
https://youtu.be/M2Dd92qa9vg?t=718

Rodgers never overcame the hat man

>>149756903
So did Nick Wright completely brainwash you or something? You realise it's possible for other people to have other opinions don't you?

>ded thread
>ded jennyroll
>ded sport

>>149756859
And turns out both won a super bowl mvp.

fuck reffies
all my homies hate reffies

>>149756455
>>149757022
>You realise it's possible for other people to have other opinions don't you?
There is no other argument. He stat mogs them, has more rings/MVPs, and dominates them in the playoffs.

This is the most one-sided beatdown since Michael Jordan. At least Peyton had more MVPs and better per game stats than Brady, these guys have nothing over Mahomes.

>>149756433
To make it a fair fight I did 7 seasons of Baker vs 4 seasons of Mahomes.
https://youtu.be/lZUJzymBpOo?t=28

Now i see why that anon keeps doing Brady-Mahomes goat debates, comparing him to his peers is unfair.

>>149757096
I have no clue what the context of that flag is. Could be Goff throwing into double coverage or Sam Darnold missing a throw.

>>149756560
why did Allen make it to the playoffs and not Burrow?

>I just scrolled up and read the thread. Nobody is talking about their teams. Why does /nfl/ even exists?

>>149757271
Why didn't you include playoff QBR? Lol

>Ranking best playmaking group:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45679684/ranking-nfl-teams-wr-te-rb-groups-2025-season-best-players-playmakers-offense

1. Eagles
2. Lions
3. Bengals
4. 49ers
5. Rams
6. Vikings
7. Buccaneers
8. Ravens
9. Falcons
10. Dolphins
11. Cowboys
12. Chiefs
13. Commanders
14. Texans
15. Cardinals
16. Colts
17. Packers
18. Jaguars
19. Seahawks
20. Raiders
21. Steelers
22. Chargers
23. Broncos
24. Saints
25. Bears
26. Giants
27. Jets
28. Bills
29. Browns
30. Patriots
31. Panthers
32. Titans

>>149756417
you know who else had to play week 1 in Brazil last season? the fucking super bowl champs.

>>149747080
>Mind you, Mahomes had such a huge gap between himself and his peers that this decline only made him on par with his peers such as Lamar and Allen.
Uh huh, real equals with Allen, Lamar, and Burrow.

>>149758767

>>149758773

>>149756288
>Mahomes isn't competing against Brady, he's competing against Peyton and Rodgers who actually had good stats in their 20s.
Really? That's crazy bro. Mahouses must really suck then because Brady has a higher era-adjusted TD%, lower INT%, higher era-adjusted passer rating through their first 7 years.
NFL league averages
>2001-2007
TD/INT ratio: 1.28
Passer rating: 80.5
>2018-2024
TD/INT ratio: 1.96
Passer rating: 91.2

My brownies are fucking cursed man

>>149759572
Andrew Berry lol what does that nigger even do?

>>149759572
how much worse can it get?

Browns RB Quinshon Judkins has been arrested for domestic violence in Florida. Cleveland selected him in the 2nd round of the 2025 NFL draft. He was reported saying “I didn’t do nothing, I’m innocent.

>>149759853
They can't help themselves. The 10-20% European admixture was not enough in his case
https://x.com/ThickShelledEgg/status/1943236120243777537
https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1943235417429389599

>Quitshon Bustkins

>>149759715
the Browns can find a way

>>149755877
>>>/lgbt/

>>149759853
>i dindu nuffin
stereotypes exist for a reason

>>149760681
For me, it's the Quarterback on the right

>>149760730
any sane individual would pick the QB on the right

>>149760805
I disagree. I would pick the QB on the left.

>>149760847
vaffanculo mangiamerda

>>149760847
I have some bad news for you then..

>>149761029
Sei una testa di cazzo, figlio di puttana. vaffanculo

The Iggles would have legit gone undefeated if they had Mahomes kek you Squirtstans are delusional

>>149756586
>Allen hasn't had a top 6 defense for most of his career
>giving up 20+ points to any half decent offense
lol. Mahomes has a two time winning SB DC and a highly accomplished offensive-minded coach. he is the biggest system baby there is. mind you, allen still keeps it within 3 points despite being on a worse team, imagine if they were switched. mahomes would be a fucking bum. even bigger system baby than brady.

>>149755866 (OP)
>Can they be stopped?
Can the Vikings be stopped? I think their record in Super Bowls speaks for itself.

>>149761319
Depends, do the reffies come with him?

>>149757123
>He stat mogs them
Because he's always had studs to throw too

>>149756027
What does that say?

>>149762309
his number is higher, that's all that matters. unless it isn't then he'll tell you why it doesn't matter

>>149755917
>Five-time Pro Bowl DT Ndamukong Suh officially announces retirement after 13 seasons

He was great with the Lions but he never wanted to be here, as he was always all about the money and Florida has no state income tax.

>General manager Ryan Poles, Bears agree to extension through 2029 season

lol, Ben Johnson is fucked.

>Lions pass rusher Aidan Hutchinson (leg) 'exactly where I need to be' ahead of training camp

He was a shoe-in for DPOTY last season and I'm hoping it does it this season and surpasses former Lions Al Bubba Baker's record of 23 single season sacks.

>>149756417
> 2024 Lions defense devastated by injuries
> 2024 Lions defense still ranked 7th in the league

Lions opponents are so fucked this season.

>>149757096
>>149757323
>I have no clue what the context of that flag is.

Lions once again getting fucked by the refs.

>>149762640
>Ben Johnson is fucked.
How? He has more power than Ryan Poles

>>149762907
>He... has more power than Ryan Poles!

Sure thing, Bearsbros.

>>149759708
Much more than you

Mahomes Schizo absolutely mindbroken

LOL

>>149756300
you're going to upset the jeets with this one, deshita.

My Rammies :)

>>149756527
Why did she already look old? Was she molested by her uncle?

>>149763020
You're retarded if you think he doesn't.

>>149759853
You're telling me, someone who is named Quinshon, would be a violent criminal? I am absolutely shocked. This is definitely just police racism and economic factors. There's no other explanation for why it would happen otherwise, it's absolutely not genetics or racial.

Enough of the anime posts for the love of God

>>149764351

>have completely disconnected from football since February
>fantasy draft is next month
>still gonna win the fantasy league because you know which players are dogs are which ones ain’t
Any one else can relate?

>hall of fame receiver

>>149758867
>era-adjusted
LOL.

>>149758767
https://youtu.be/M2Dd92qa9vg?t=718

I goon to Bulma.

>>149764853
Based if true

>>149764897
Thought I posted this in /dbs/ kek

>>149764853
yamcha...

For me it's ChiChi
Pre-timeskip
I'm a Raiders fan btw.

>>149764928
now i know why the autism in this jenny is so high

>>149765014
temujin bros...

>>149764764
I do think Mahomes is still the best QB in the league. However if Mahomes continues to decline in the regular season, and any of Allen, Lamar, Burrow have another AP-caliber season and win the Owl or at least get there, I think they will have a more than fair claim to being the best QB.

>>149764928
The /dbs/ general will be studied in a lab someday. Those guys don't talk or act like anyone else on /a/.

>>149765167
chadgod CHADS do not associate with the bitches of /a/

>>149765143
Allen, Lamar, or Burrow could all win superbowls in the next 3 seasons. Combined they would tie Mahomes.

Or Allen could 3peat and guess what, he'd still have one less MVP than Mahomes. The gap is so big they will never catch up.

Only Purdy or Jalen stand a chance of passing him since their GM knows how to build super teams. But even if they do nobody will take those two roster babies seriously.

Reminder that any dragon ball after Z (including GT) is absolutely trash and should not be associated with the manga
Thanks

>>149765305
Trvke

Reminder that any dragon ball before CHADPER (including Z) is absolute trash and is optional filler content
Thanks

>>149758773
>>149757123

>>149765411
Gold
>>149765305
Mold

Out /dbs/pics, /nfl/ is One Piece territory.
We love Carrot here.

>he unironically posted shitrot in a hxh affiliated general

>>149765516
Facts

This is an Evangelion general

>>149765590
no games for another 2.5 weeks and players getting arrested is boring now since it happens every day

>>149765673
and there it is

>>149765262
They would not have passed him in career accomplishments or all time great ranking, but just like in 2022 it was fair to say Mahomes was better than Brady, so too it may be fair to call one of them better than Mahomes if Mahomes does not get over this slump and they continue all-world production AND combine that with winning.

>>149764928
don't think i dont know who you are

>how empty will the rams stadium be this season, because of ice?

>>149765771
>how empty will the raiders stadium be
Ftfy

/nfl/ and /sp/ is a Bookworm board. Get the fuck out of here with your one piece, evangelion, dbz, naruto slop.
We love Myne here.

Rams tbqhf

>>149765702
>if Mahomes does not get over this slump
If going to 3 straight Superbowls and winning 2 of them is what a "slump" looks like Chiefs can only hope this continues. The guy was a coinflip in overtime from playing in 6 of the last 7 Superbowls, he's never had a bad season by any other QB's standards.

In 2024 he was on an 18 game win streak and just got done winning back to back rings and people were complaining he wasn't blowing teams out. Only Mahomes is held to these absurd standards.

>>149765143
>and any of Allen, Lamar, Burrow have another AP-caliber season and win the Owl or at least get there
One good season just means you're the MVP. Mahomes has had more good seasons than them. He passed Brady as the best player because he was statmogging him, winning MVPs, and rings. You don't get the title of best by just having good stats for one season.

>>149765702
>slump

>>149766220
>>149766267
I qualified my statements with lots and lots of ifs.
Suppose the following happens:
>KC goes 12-5
>Mahomes puts similar stats as the past 2 years, i.e. average to below average in box score,
>KC loses in the divisional. Kelce retires
>[Burrow] wins MVP and Allen was the runner-up. One of them goes to the superb owl and wins it.
Given all of this, would it be stupid to say that in the year 2025 and 2026, a full 7-8 years after Mahomes' explosive prime, one of them could be ranked as the #1 QB in the game?

Damn it's almost like certain running backs are better than others and cheaping out on paying an All-Pro running back so you can use a platoon of cheap scab backs instead has actual on-field consequences. Common knowledge to ball knowers but somehow this eludes the Moneyball analytics-obsessed cretins who have taken over the League.

>>149766633
Good for RBs to get their bussy respect back

>>149766564
Only one problem, he's still putting up the best postseason stats. He only trails Brady in total pass TDs, playoff wins, and Superbowl MVPs. His post season passer rating in the last 2 seasons is 101, which is absurdly high. To put that into context Brady played 23 seasons and only had a passer rating of 100+ four times in the playoffs (Mahomes did it 5 times).

Maybe if Lamar wins a 3rd MVP you could call him the best. Allen is 0-4 against him in the playoffs so it would be hard to rank him above Mahomes. Burrow needs to worry about making the playoffs.

Isn't passer rating one of those meme stats that's been getting higher across the board over time and yet I'm meant to believe it's an indicator of talent/skill and not the rules and game systems being better for QBs?

>>149767124
why don't you people just make a fucking mahomes general already. you guys flood the fucking threads every single time with mahomes this, mahomes that you fucking cocksucker

Lol so true

>>149767266
We're discussing football in a football thread. If you don't like it, then just go somewhere else.

>>149767266
Scroll up to the top and then read the thread. Nobody is talking about their team. If you do not want it to be about the Chiefs, for fucks sakes talk about your team.

I'm tired of people talking trash about my Chiefs, I hoped you guys got that out of your system during the offseason.

Patrick Mahomes diddles kids

>>149767444
>I'm tired of people talking trash about my Chiefs
then you shouldn't have drafted a fucking theatre actor as a quarterback. the dude hobbles around between plays like he's constantly hurt, and flops around like a soccer player if he's so much as touched by a defender to try and get calls from the refs. he makes a mockery of the sport and yeah in the one game where it was fair game in the Superbowl he got his ass whooped by guess who Tom fucking Brady. that's the end of the discussion

>>149756417
The chargers defense is fraudulent BUT Harbaugh is a giant fucking nerd and will pull out every retarded technicality and edge like hes belicheck and will meme on them for a dominant win. Thats also the chargers home game for the chiefs so yes they get the W. You can bet your house on the chargers that game, hence the suspect line to get people betting heavy on chiefs.

>its possible to have an la vs la superbowl
Oh shid its habbening this year

>>149767738
/nfl/ media would be in a seething frenzy

>>149767738
>Played in San Francisco
Oops all Cali Owl

>>149767738
>thinking Herbert the Pervert can string 3 post season wins

>>149767763
>bowl in san fran
>colors are blue yellow and then a little green surrounded by red like the LA fires
>Staffords last season
>superbowl winner won the Brazil game last season

Ids habbeninggggg

>>149767682
>flops around like a soccer player
I thin you're confusing him with Allen. The best decision I made was fleeing this place after the Superbowl. I knew it would be overrun with haters from all the poverty franchises we bullied.

>>149767221
Even without that it's a shit stat.
>>149767124
In the example I gave he would have shat the bed in the divisional. If that was the case (if if if if if -- remember I do think Mahomes is the best), it would be fair to say what I said. But at the same time they would be nowhere close to Mahomes in all-time ranking yet

>>149767685
>Eagles, Ravens, Lions, Commanders, Bills
It's as if the league is trying to setup the Chiefs.

>>149765627
>my Commies

>>149766267
>Reid baby

>>149768421
Shit, my bad. Meant to post this

>>149768318
The Internationale shall be the whole NFL!

>>149768000
https://youtu.be/5u3GntHOxPU

Somebody says the name Taylor?
>(You)
Think of hag swift
>Me (based)
Think of /ourguy/ Heinicke

>>149767221
>>149768041
>Isn't passer rating one of those meme stats that's been getting higher across the board over time
Athletes get better with time. With the NBA only a few athletes could dunk in the 80s like Jordan and nobody could shoot 3s. Nowadays there's 3 dudes on each team who can dunk like Jordan and you don't make the practice squad if you can't shoot 3s.

The QBs of the 70s handed the ball off to running backs half the time and didn't throw as much in college. They aren't as talented as the modern QB. Modern players have more lean muscle mass and break combine records each season. Even the range of kickers has increased where 60+ yard kicks are now common.

Put Baker or Allen in the 80s and they dog walk everyone. Simple as. Ask a real ball knower like the kiwi and he'd agree.

Modern players benefit from better nutritionists, facilities, access to film, pay structure, safety etc. it's hard to say a guy would dominate in an older era if he went back in time but didn't have access to those advantages

>>149768741
I saw with my own eyes a 43 and 44 year old Brady dad dick the league, win the SB and put up MVP numbers (should have won MVP in 2021).

>>149768741
>Athletes get better with time
>Put Baker or Allen in the 80s and they dog walk everyone.
Why do you think modern athletes are better? It's because they have access to more resources and more specialization than athletes of the past, not because they're magically higher quality. Send any current QB back in time 40 years and they wouldn't have their specialized help that puts them over the edge.

>>149769044
It's a mixed bag. Think of Puka breaking the all time rookie receiving record. He had 17 games in a passing era. On the other hand, the long standing record holder literally got the job off the street. The difficulty and complexity of the game was not close to the game today.

>>149769094
Brady ringpadded against newborn baby, rookie QBs, who didn't know how to read defenses.

No QB won more rings, MVPs, or had better stats than Mahomes since he became a starter in 2018. So even he came in 2nd place to baby Mahomes who didn't even know how to wipe his ass yet at that age.

>>149769044
>>149769304
I'm not arguing they are genetically superior. I'm just saying there's a reason their passer rating and combine stats keep improving. It has less to do with rule changes than people think, the modern QBs are simply more skilled than the dudes from the 70s-90s. If you ignore the all time greats like Peyton, Brady, Farve, Montana, Rodgers, etc.... the average QB back then wouldn't qualify for a backup role in today's game.

>>149769947
>the modern QBs are simply more skilled
No they're not. They're just better trained and coached, have better routines, etc. They have it because specialization increases over time. They're not just magically better via evolution or something

>>149770048
>They're just better trained and coached, have better routines, etc. They have it because specialization increases over time. They're not just magically better via evolution or something
That's literally everything I just said.

The requirements for being a QB increased. If you go back to the 70s they would ask "can he consistently hand off the ball to our RB" and gave zero fucks if they knew how to throw pass 40 yards.

>>149756527

>>149769423
>2018
Mahomes has the best WR, TE, and coach in the league. Is outplayed and loses to Brady in the AFCCG anyway.
>2019
Mahomes has the best WR, TE, and coach in the league. Brady has one of the worst offensive supporting casts in the league.
>2020
LOL
>2021
LOL
>2022
45 year old Brady finally declines.
Also see>>149760681
Hurts is better then :)

>>149770563
>Is outplayed and loses to Brady in the AFCCG anyway.
You mean this game where Brady threw a 3rd game ending INT? Look at Brady's face he knew it was over since there was only a minute left in the 4th quarter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPJv9YzozoQ

>>149770794
>0 points scored in the first half with the aforementioned supporting cast and against the 14th ranked DVOA defense
hahahahaha

>>149768421
That's hot until you realize it's LA and >she is most likely packing heat down there.
>>149770563
>Mahomes has the best WR, TE, and coach in the league.
So why didn't Alex Smith lead the league in yards/TDs?

>>149770113
>That's literally everything I just said.
>>149769947
>he modern QBs are simply more skilled

>>149765953
my Rozemyne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpLS1LRsF9w

>>149770539
he cute

>>149771237
Because Mahomes is better than Alex Smith. And bringing up Alex Smith is not the best idea going by the stat you worship

>>149771263
It's not mutually exclusive.

All I said was they are more skilled. I never went into detail of why that is the case. And I agree with you and the kiwi that it's probably due to them having better training/nutrition/specialization.

My Chargers are winning the division btw

>>149770563
>2020
>LOL
You forgot to mention Brady joined the Bucs. The same Bucs that made a >black backup QB Winston lead the league in yards (5,200). The same team that currently has Baker leading the league in TDs (last 2 seasons combined). The same team that made Brady lead the league in yards/tds in his 40s. It's as if the Bucs artificially boost a QB's stats. Brady was kicked off the Patriots and was on his way out of the league before the Bucs saved his career. He went from 20 TDs to 40 TDs.

>>149772276
Caleb is like the bussy posting anon on /nfl/. It's so obvious he's struggling to contain his homosexuality.

>>149771636
>they are *simply* more skilled
>okay they aren't just more skilled it's actually all of these other things too

>>149772254
Ah yes, I forgot to mention Brady switched teams, a team that hadn't gone to the playoffs in 12 years (the same year the Pats missed the playoffs in 2008 because Brady tore his ACL), and a 5-11, 5-11, 7-9 record the 3 years prior, and the 28th ranked PPG defense (you like PPG, right?), then immediately won the super bowl by going through Brees, Rodgers, and Mahomes,while throwing for the most TDs in a super bowl winning season ever (50). Then followed that up with an MVP-caliber season. My mistake.

>>149772928
Oh, and did so while outplaying all of them.

Training camp starts next week!!!

>>149772958
>ESPN QBR
LOL. This was the moment I realized Miguel was baiting.

>>149773056
>Miguel
Oh that's an italian flag. *Mario then.

>>149772965
*rips your face off*
*wears it as a mask *
Now IM the janny

>>149773056
Here's EPA/play if you prefer. (QBR is EPA/play with some proprietary tweaks allegedly including accounting for stuff like dropped ints, dropped passes etc.)

>>149773200
Here's YOUR profile pic on 4chan forumworld

>>149773200
QBR isn't a real stat, but if we're posting QBR.

>>149773386
>8 and 8 the past two years
mahomo bros...has our boy fallen off?

>>149755866 (OP)
What makes living in somalisota make people chimp so much?

>>149773386
That #1 in 2008 is the highest single season by QBR ever by the way.

>>149772928
We saw their eras overlap, Mahomes won more rings, MVPs, and put up significantly better stats. He's not on Mahomes level. Brady won a coinflip in overtime, big deal.

>>149773704

>>149773704
lol, whatever you say bud
also
>Mahomes won more rings
KEK. I know counting isn't your strong point but jfc.

>We saw their eras overlap, Mahomes won more rings, MVPs, and put up significantly better stats. He's not on Mahomes level. Brady won a coinflip in overtime, big deal.

>>149773796
>Adjusted-era stats
LOL

5 seasons of Mahomes
vs
7 seasons of Brady


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>>149773973
>20 year gap
May as well be comparing Brady to Namath. No shit his stats are going to be higher.

>5 seasons of Mahomes
>vs
>7 seasons of Brady
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>>149774126
But he stat mogs him in the era they overlap see picrel >>149769423

>>149774236
My conclusion from this image is that Josh Allen is overrated.

>>149774236
See>>149758867
>>149774463
I think passing stats alone massively underrate Josh Allen. But it's also true he's not close to Peyton Manning.

>>149773796
>>149774463
>>149774519
>KEK. I know counting isn't your strong point but jfc.
There's several metrics you can use to measure who won an era.
>Rings, MVPs, stats, all-pros, and wins
Since Mahomes became a starter in 2018 no QB has surpassed him in any of these, at best they've only tied him.

Brady tied him in rings but has less total MVPs. Lamar tied him in league MVPs, but has less rings and playoff wins. Maybe if you combined Lamar, Brady, and Burrow you might TIE Mahomes.

We haven't seen dominance like this since Michael Jordan.

>>149764351
The fridge guarding the snacks

>>149774519
>I think passing stats alone massively underrate Josh Allen
That's politically correct way of saying he's shit without his rushing TDs. Funny how nobody mentions his 50 fumbles or him leading the league in turnovers in the last 6 seasons. You guys are racist and only complain when >black QBs rely on rush stats.

>>149774599
Brady had more rings up than Mahomes since Mahomes entered the league up to the point he retired. Brady owned Mahomes both times they met in the playoffs, on different teams, on different conferences, outplaying him severely both times. And this was a 41 and 43 year old Brady lmao. It's as if 40 year old MJ had beaten LeBron in the finals while outplaying him, twice. That's actually happened btw>>149755899

>>149774823
mahomes was missing his WR1, WR2, WR3, LT, RB1, RB2, and DPR (diaper) both of those games, so it doesn't count

>>149774823
>Brady had more rings up than Mahomes since Mahomes entered the league up to the point he retired
What Brady did before Mahomes got into the league is irrelevant to the topic of what happened when their eras overlapped.

From 2018 to 2022 no QB had more TDs, yards, rings, playoff wins, or total MVPs than Mahomes. It's a one sided beatdown the likes of which we haven't seen since prime Jordan or Gretzky
>outplaying him severely both times
Winning a coinflip in overtime isn't outplaying.

>>149774823
Mahomes won the era their careers overlap 2018-2022

>MVPs
Brady 1
Mahomes 2

>Rings
Brady 2
Mahomes 2

>Superbowl MVPs
Brady: 1
Mahomes: 2

>Yards
Brady 23,055
Mahomes 23,957

>TDs
Brady 161
Mahomes 192

>INTs
Brady 52
Mahomes 48

>Passer rating
Brady 96
Mahomes 106

>>149775041
Mahomes entered the league in 2017. Became a starter in 2018. In 2018 Brady won the Superbowl. In 2019 Mahomes won the owl. In 2020 Brady won the super bowl (new team). In 2021, the LAR won the super bowl. Brady retired in Feb 1st of 2023, before the conclusion of the 2022 season.
>>149775041
Already repeated this too many times. The fact is Mahomes' statistical prime is far behind Brady's statistical prime. The only QB on a level with Brady in this regard is Peyton. Irrespective of prime, Brady also has far more career accomplishments. Through their first 7 years, they have won the same # of SBs, and are almost identical in era-adjusted stats, with Brady having an all-time-all-time season (the only other two that can be mentioned in the same breadth are 2004 Peyton and 1984 Marino).
Here's the thing: Mahomes is right now 3/7. If he does not win again next year, he'll be 3/8 and already behind schedule. Mahomes is entering his age 30 season. In order to catch Brady he needs to win NOW. Because it's easy to guarantee Mahomes will not win multiple SBs in his 40s.
So as it stands now
>1 year peak
Brady (by far)
>3 year peak
Brady (by far)
>5 year peak
Brady (by far)
>7 year peak
Brady (by far)
>10 year peak
Brady
>longevity
Brady
>super bowls
Brady
And a few other tie-breakers In case they're ever needed:
>H2H
Brady
>won with multiple teams
Brady
Maybe if you'd stop comparing him to Brady I wouldn't have to do this. I don't do this for Allen-Brady comparisons because no one makes those. Compare Mahomes to Favre, Rodgers, Elway or Young or even maybe even Montana and Peyton. You keep trying to compare him to Tom and it's just going to be an embarrassing one-sided beat-down.

>>149775548
>Brady retired in Feb 1st of 2023, before the conclusion of the 2022 season.
Alright, I'll admit this made me laugh. This is the biggest cope I've seen in the offseason.

Jesus Christ I can't wait for real football. You guys are fucking insufferable.

>>149775548
>In order to catch Brady he needs to win NOW. Because it's easy to guarantee Mahomes will not win multiple
He had a 100% rate of making it to championship rounds in his 20s unlike Brady who missed the playoffs or was being blown out in the divisional rounds by bums like Jake Plummer. There's no reason to believe this trend wont' continue in his 30s.

>>149774818
Nah. I'm an advanced stat chad, and I understand shit stats like passer rating overvalue cmp%, which is part of why basic shit stats like that undervalue him.

>>149775803
Except the career trajectory of everyone not named Brady. And remembering Kelce is retiring next season, and that Reid is 67.

>>149775894
>Except the career trajectory of everyone not named Brady
He was a coinflip away from starting in 6 Superbowls for his first 7 seasons. There's no proof he's human. We knew Brady was human when he missed the playoffs in 2002.

>Maybe if you'd stop comparing him to Brady I wouldn't have to do this. I don't do this for Allen-Brady comparisons because no one makes those.
I've never brought up Brady. I said he's the GOAT. I just respond to the Brady bots who keep doing these childish GOAT debates. Speculating about the future is a waste of our time. Mahomes just has a better start to his career and that's all I've ever said.

Idk about you guys but I feel that if the NFL keeps on adding games to extend the season the superb owl will be a contest decided by the two teams of each conference who get less injuries

Diluting the product just produces less quality at the end

>>149776095
There's no proof he won't continue winning playoff games.

>MUH COINFLIP
Holy shit bro, move on.

>it's another episode of brady vs the mutt

>>149776102
nfl and nflpa don't care, since it will bring in more money
i would have thought 17 would have been fine, considering all of the international games, each team 8 home and away and 1 international game each
in 10 years, we'll have 20 games a season and no preseason

all of the greatest qb's are sexually dysfunctional, or romantically dysfunctional
brady and mahomes are cucks
rodgers really, really likes women
big rape
brett favre dick pics
rivers 50 kids
marino's affair
who knows what aikman got up to in those cowboys parties
is it a coincidence, that allen wins the MVP, then gets cucked?

>>149776206
There's always going to be an asterisk on Brady's resume since he won a ring with a coinflip. Imagine your son comes home with a trophy and you ask him how he won it and he says "I won a coinflip". I would grab the trophy and throw it in the trash and tell him we don't accept participation trophies in this house. Trophies have to be won from merit, not luck.

>>149775717
This is the worst era to discuss football. Mahomes has won so much he can no longer be compared to his peers. At least Peyton had better stats and more rings than Brady so there was a debate.

>>149776213
I think it keeps happening since they're embarrassed to mention their QB in the same sentence as Mahomes. So they LARP as Brady fans. Brady stole valor from their franchise with his spy/deflate gates. They should be lockstep with me in denouncing that cheater.

>>149776698
>At least Peyton had better stats and more *MVPs* than Brady so there was a debate.

>>149776213
>>it's another episode of brady vs the mutt

>>149759572
>>149759853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_WNF0LdlL0&list=RDn_WNF0LdlL0&start_radio=1

>>149776897
fucking jewtube i swear to god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_WNF0LdlL0

>>149755921
>>149761625
>>149762409
>>149763050
>>149763497
>>149764171
>>149765378
>>149765763
>>149767374
Built for BBC (Big Bronco Cock)

>>149767685
>>149756300
The league is tired of the Chiefs. Them firing those Chief friendly refs was their way of saying anyone who helps the Chiefs will suffer the same fate.

The Chiefs' 2025 schedule is the closet thing to a Montreal Screwjob I've ever seen. They play the #1 ranked Chargers defense in Brazil, then have to fly 18 hours back home to play the Eagles who had the #2 ranked defense. Followed by the Bills, Ravens, AND Lions.

If all of this fails to stop Mahomes they'll use the nuclear option and bust him for steroids even though they're aware all QBs are on the sauce. The casinos are fine with you getting lucky, but if you win too much they send their goons on you. They won't let him go to 6 superbowls.

>>149777043
>The league is [headcanon]

Temujin is a 6 foot 215lb autistic Latina living in California and my wife!

He's never coming back.and there's no replacing him. I miss him so God damn much. The NFL just ain't the same without him.

>>149777343
Pic very strongly related.

Screenshot this prediction. 7/13/2025

Mahomes was the babyface going against the Patriots dynasty heels.

In 2024 they made him turn heel so Allen could become the babyface.

In the playoffs there will be a Montreal screwjob against the Chiefs where the refs will make the the Bills win with the most bullshit roughing the passer call in the history of the league. Allen will turn heel and Mahomes will return to the role of babyface in 2026.

https://youtu.be/ck22e9fyAlQ?t=7

mandrama tard above me

Screenshot this prediction. 7/13/2025

Mahomes was the babyface going against the Patriots dynasty heels.

In 2024 they made him turn heel so Allen could become the babyface.

In the playoffs there will be a Montreal screwjob against the Chiefs where the refs will make the the Bills win with the most bullshit roughing the passer call in the history of the league. Allen will turn heel and Mahomes will return to the role of babyface in 2026.

https://youtu.be/ck22e9fyAlQ?t=7

>>149777549
The Patriots dynasty were actually heroes when you get by all the unfair media coverage they were subjected to.

He's never coming back.and there's no replacing him. I miss him so God damn much. The NFL just ain't the same without him.

>>149777622
>The Patriots dynasty were actually heroes
Tell me you're a zoomer without telling me you're a zoomer. They were hated from their spy and deflate gates. Belichick was hostile towards fans and the media and the Patriots culture felt robotic and cruel.

Brady was considered a roster baby for most of his career until he got Moss. Brady only achieved legend status after the Falcons comeback game. Prior to that he was only worshiped in New England.

Brady smashed his phone when the league came knocking to investigate their scandals.

He's lucky Robert Kraft donated to the local judges and politicians. The same judges who would help him hide the surveillance tapes of him Epsteining those chinese girls at the massage parlor.

>Tom Brady is 3-0 in overtime playoff games

Based coinflip GOD

>>149777713
>They were hated from their spy and deflate gates

Both thoroughly debunked

>Belichick was hostile towards fans and the media and the Patriots culture felt robotic and cruel.

You mean Belichick developed a winning culture at New England without playing up to the media, which is always unnecessarily hostile to teams? You're right, which is why they would never forgive him for it.

>Brady was considered a roster baby for most of his career until he got Moss.

Randy "Zero rings" Moss?

>>149777713
>Brady only achieved legend status after the Falcons comeback game. Prior to that he was only worshiped in New England.

Complete horse shit. He was Cristiano Ronaldo and Peyton was Messi, in so far as the entire media hates Ronaldo and really wanted to position Messi as being superior to him.

Of course Peyton and Brady are no longer Ronaldo and Messi because Peyton isn't even in the conversation anymore. Brady has moved so far ahead of everybody else in any discussion of greatest QB of all time that it is no longer even a discussion.

They literally had a 60 minutes segment with him back in 2005 because he had achieved so much so early.

>"You've got 3 Superbowl rings. You've been voted MVP in 2 of those Superbowls. You're probably the most glamorous player in the NFL."

https://youtu.be/ypELsuR1MRM

>>149778071
>They literally had a 60 minutes segment with him back in 2005 because he had achieved so much so early.
He was still considered a defense baby back then. How many league MVPs did he win in his 20s again? Let me count, oh wait. Zero of them.

They even made a list of all time great QBs in 2010 and they had guys like Peyton and Farve above him despite him having more rings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Top_100:_NFL%27s_Greatest_Players

>>149778056
Ever notice how dynasties always win coinflips? Wake the fuck up you sheeple. Chiefs lost coinflip to the Patriots dynasty. Then once the Chiefs become a dynasty they always win the coinflip. It's so staged yet you guys eat it up like flies to shit.

POV: you've just been traded away for a 5th round pick because you didn't rape anyone

>>149778354
kek got me

>>149778056
Real niggas clutch up

Ask any physics major if coinflips are "random." If the same initial velocity is applied you will get the same results. The refs are trained to help the current dynasty win.

Patriots before Brady started
>losing season Bill about to be fired
Chiefs before Mahomes started
>Playoff contender with Alex Smith at the helm

yeah, mahomes is the biggest system baby known to man, couple that with his biggest rival being lameme and josh the retard allen, zombie peyton would have put up MVP numbers on the chiefs.

>>149778552
Belichick joined in 1996 as an assistant coach and they went to the Superbowl, then he went to the Jets and took them to their first conference championship in decades, then he returned as HC of the Patriots and carried them to a ring. Brady had Superbowl caliber team mates.

Here's the playoffs stats 2 decades before Brady and Mahomes joined their teams

Patriots (1979-1999)
>Playoff wins: 6
>Playoff loses: 7
>AFCCG appearances: 2
>Superbowl appearances: 2

Chiefs (1996-2016)
>Playoff wins: 1
>Playoff loses: 7
>AFCCG appearances: 0
>Superbowl appearances: 0

>>149778629
>stats 2 decades before
now tell me the stats of the team before they started
oops that doesnt fit your narrative does it?

>>149778663
Did you not read. They went to the Superbowl a few years before Brady became the starter. Meanwhile, the Chiefs hadn't been to a conference championship.

>>149778629
Yeah man, Brady was SUCH a Belicheckbabby

>>149778678
>They went to the Superbowl a few years before Brady became the starter. Meanwhile, the Chiefs hadn't been to a conference championship.
PLEASE tell me the W/R record the year before they started. its a very simple question. nobody cares about old rings prior. christ your like a cowboys fan. the year before they started. go ahead. now tell me.

Will he redeem the AFC West this season?

>>149778689
Winning the AFC West was the equivalent of winning today's NFC South. It's like being the tallest hobbit in the Shire. You're still a hobbit.

Brady had 1 TD in total in the playoffs compared to Mahomes who had 10 TDs.

>>149778796
>still hasnt told me the W/R record a year before starting their respective team
lmao

>>149778747
He's going to put up a lot of points in the Payton system but never let that confuse you into thinking he's an elite QB. His ceiling is, if everything goes right you can win a ring with him similar to Jalen or Purdy. He has a noodle arm and isn't a game changer.

>He has a noodle arm

Who's gonna tell him?

>>149778916
can nix do this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZdpR93uggw

Not clicking that shit

Wise choice

>>149777622

>>149772276
He's sucked off a dude at least once in his life.

You just know that the manlet NEET kiwicuck is going to hide like a pussy when the niggerbirds and donkeys get exposed.

>h-hey guys.... ummm it'd be real swell if you c-c-could draft me 8th overall...... heh thanks

Brady to start his career
>drafted by a team that was 8-8 and went 5-11 with Brady on the bench
>defensive head coach
>WR1 was a 30 year old who had one season above 610 yards prior to Brady
>WR2 was a returner who was just released by the browns with 1000 yards and four TDs total in the 4 years prior to Brady
>RB1 was a free agent signing who had just lost his job to a rookie the year prior
>TE1 was a UDFA that had 200 total receiving yards prior to Brady

Mahomes to start his career
>drafted by a team that was 12-4 and went 10-6 with Mahomes on the bench
>offensive head coach
>WR1 was a 2x Pro Bowl, 1x All-Pro that just had a 1200 yard, 7 TD season
>WR2 was a 4th overall pick free agent with 3000 yards and 25 TDs total in the 4 years prior to Mahomes
>RB1 was entering year 2 after leading the league in yards with 1327 yards and 8 TDs as a rookie
>TE1 was a 3x Pro Bowl, 2x All-Pro with 3900 yards and 22 TDs total in the four years prior to Mahomes including two consecutive 1000 yard seasons (just the 8th TE in NFL history to do so)

7-3 > 3-2

>>149779213
uhm the patriots went to the SB like a decade prior so obviously brady landed on a stacked team

HOL UP
HOL UP
WE DEM BOYZ

>>149778747
HE WILL REDEEM THE AFCW

Congratulate Christian McCaffrey on his newborn baby.
Also, do you think he asked for the umbilical chord and the placenta so he could inject the stem cells in into his Achilles?

>>149779413
>Congratulate Christian McCaffrey on his newborn baby.
Why?

>>149779413
>>149779416
Forgot to add image

>>149779213
2 decades before Brady and Mahomes joined their teams

Patriots (1979-1999)
>Playoff wins: 6
>Playoff loses: 7
>AFCCG appearances: 2
>Superbowl appearances: 2

Chiefs (1996-2016)
>Playoff wins: 1
>Playoff loses: 7
>AFCCG appearances: 0
>Superbowl appearances: 0

>two decades
who the fuck cares

Does the situation of a team in, say, 2010 really matter to a player being drafted today?
5 years before, at most.

>>149779422
Imagine you're about to play in an NFL game, you walk in and see your Running Back doing this shit.
>I do this because my wife just had a baby. I'm all about family, you know?

Yeah I'm doing a 360 and requesting a trade.

This dude is already a surgeon.

>two decades
cowboys fan tier lmao

>>149779527
top kek

>>149779527
>I do this because my wife just had a baby. I'm all about family, you know?

Yeah this newborn is going to be a big distraction. He's washed!

>>149779422
Why is the baby black?

>>149779580
Just imagined a 3 minute long Cowherd rant about how having a child is selfish and irresponsible in regards to your team.

>>149779670
So Christian McCaffrey, best back in the league, MVP candidate, just had a baby, and look, that’s great for him, but let’s be honest, it’s a selfish move from a team perspective. This is the peak of his career, the Niners are in a Super Bowl window, and now he’s signing up for sleepless nights, emotional fatigue, and split priorities? You can’t be all-in on football when you’ve got a newborn at home. The NFL doesn’t care how good of a dad you are, it cares if you’re focused, rested, and obsessed with winning. Having a kid isn’t a team-first decision, it’s a distraction during the most critical stretch of his career.

>>149779213
>>149779480
>>149779481
Patriots went to Superbowl in 1996 and 2001. That gap is no different from the 49ers going to the owl in 2019 and 2023. Brady was the Purdy of his era. He joined a roster that already made it to the Superbowl.

>>149779741
Where Colin was RIGHT

>>149778552
>yeah, mahomes is the biggest system baby known to man, couple that with his biggest rival being lameme and josh the retard allen, zombie peyton would have put up MVP numbers on the chiefs.
Kurt Warner was LITERALLY a grocery store clerk who got off his couch and won the Superbowl and the league MVP around that time.

If a dude from the g-league is the best player in the league it speaks volumes about the competition back then.

>>149779741
>it’s a selfish move from a team perspective.
This but unironically. I'm always seething whenever Britney Mahomes gets knocked up. Mahomes plays awful in the months around his child birth.

The GOAT

>>149755866 (OP)
Why didn’t this dude get suspended for life for assaulting a ref???

>>149779958
Reffies simply cannot be stopped. It was merely a light tap to the ref, so he was merciful.

>>149776697
What’s wrong with rivers though

>>149779958
JJ has superstar privilages, if that was a different WR he'd be banned for life. The ref pretended he didn't hurt him.

>>149779747
false equivalence. 95% of the 96 patriots roster was gone by 2001. 49ers had a shitload of roster carryover from 19-23 AND they still had shanahan

>>149780019
> they still had shanahan
And Patriots still had Bill who was with them during the 1996 superbowl.

>>149780036
Bill was their DBs coach, not head coach. false equivalence again

This fucker is wasted on this shit franchise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apDtCouirC4

>>149779850
dont dare to compare todays zoomers who cant read blitzes or defenses to the GOAT Kurt.

>>149780074
as are many talented players
the high first round picks don't exactly go to the good teams

>>149776697
>Dan Marino Admits to Fathering Love Child with CBS Production Assistant
To think you used to be able to father bastard children back in the day with coworkers. Nowadays you can't even fuck a side piece without her telling everyone on social media or accusing you of rape. The MeeToo movement was a mistake.

>>149779413
he should've handed a ball to the baby as it came out so it could start life with positive yardage

>>149780188
but what if the baby fumbles the ball and becomes a failure on the most important day of his life similar to what his dad did in the superbowl

>>149780201
I forgot about that. Mahomes is so fucking good

>>149780201
bro, have you ever seen baby grip? they are like tiny monkeys

Was it intentional?

Ray Lewis killed a guy.

whatever you do DO NOT look at Elmo’s latest tweets

I got a little sugar in the tank

>>149780369
He's based

>>149780369

Holy fucking based

>>149780431
Goddamn it Bo.

>>149780450
LOL

>>149764020
>You're retarded if you think he doesn't.

No, you're retarded if you think a first year HC is given more control than the GM (even if he sucks) whose entire career was in scouting and player personnel.

Describe in two words Bears GM Ryan Poles ability to evaluate talent

>>149780618
cain't

can someone explain what I am. I only like women and think men are disgusting, yet occasionally once in a blue moon will fap to gay shit. but it's never to the men it's always just to the idea of doing the gay act. I'm not bi or gay. wtf am I? I think you guys are sleeping on my Broncos btw. we will have a top 5 defense and qb.

>>149780618
eh.. eh?

>>149780362
>Ray Lewis
The fact that they still have Ray Lewis on broadcast after he knifed a dude to death is the probably the strangest thing about the NFL.

>>149780618
We Wuz..

>>149780731
Apples

>>149780731
so we're just going to ignore those faggy zoomer emotes? was that written by a 13 year old girl

>>149780731
>trades away All Pro Roquan Smith for a 2nd round pick
>drafts a bunch of mediocre players
>drafts a Quarterback who went 1-5 in his final 6 college starts 1st overall
>Quarterback looks like dogshit
>somehow get a contract extension

I've never seen someone fail upwards more than this faggot. I can't even think of a case that's close. Maybe Hue Jackson?

>>149780792
You consider falling upward still working for the bears? Or just having a job?

>>149780792
>>149780731
Ryan Poles built the Chiefs dynasty but didn't get to eat the fruits of his labor. Brett Veach stole valor from him. Give the Bears more time and trust the process.

>>149780823
You must be a Tlaw fan too

>>149780823
John Dorsey built the Chiefs. Poles was a holdover from the Scott Pioli Chiefs regime. The reason John Dorsey and John Schneider were two of the most successful GMs of the 2010s is because they learned talent evaluation under Ron Wolf in Green Bay. They use eye test instead of relying on fucking stats nerds

>>149780823
I trust that my dick is the biggest in this thread

>>149780918
7.5 inches when erect though I'd trade inches for girth

I hate Kay Adams and her stupid shape shifting face.

She can look like a different person based on her current makeup, botox, or plastic surgery. She could have been the most attractive women in sports but bogged herself.

>>149780939
amateur hour over here, I just killed this woman tonight

>>149780968
She got nothing on Cynthia

>>149780968
She thinks if I don't recognize her she won't OWE me sex.

Mahomes with a stable OL is undefeated in Superbowls.

Josh Simmons' knee is going to determine the fate of all franchises for the next decade.

https://youtu.be/8KwKRIr9O9E?t=466

>>149781098
>Josh Simmons' knee is going to determine the fate of all franchises for the next decade.
Good thing it's solid and he hasn't had surgery on it

>general manager Brett Veach conversed with head coach Andy Reid, and a solution for the team’s biggest position of need — left tackle — hit him like a epiphany.
>“Just sucking for a year,” Veach said, “and picking in the top 10.”
I wish my Chiefs would tank in 2025.

>>149781125
That injury takes one year to recover from. Then another year or two trying to get back to where you were prior to the injury. Some athletes never recover from it. We'll see how it goes.

>>149781177
This reads like some government propaganda piece. These ppl have no idea what their doing

>>149780792
>Ben Johnson declined to go to Jacksonville because of Trent Baalke.
>Goes with Chicago under Poles
>Jacksonville fires Baalke immediately after.

What is he thinking rn?

>>149781278
He probably didn't realize how much of a cancer Baalke was until literally everyone refused to go there because of him. Another tank year for the Jags before they get a new HC next year

OH NO NO NO NO NO

Ladies and almost ladies, your Chicago Bears starting quarterback

>>149781346
>>149781351
Ok I can't defend him anymore after this. Bears are cooked

YEAHHHH HERE WE GO

>>149781346
>>149781351
I reckon, this boy right here, he done lookin' mighty ripe, just like a southern sugar plum.

>>149781346
>>149781351
Caleb would have been sucking WRs off at Diddy's parties if not for that raid.

>>149781371
trevor lawrence will win a playoff game this year and dak wont

Dem Boyz are the favorites to win da owl after the Texas floods.

>>149781346
>>149781351
Name a zestier player in any sport

Hardmode: no KAT

Absolutely zero consequences for going 3-14 and handing the Eagles a Super Bowl by the way

I got a new black kitten and named it "maxx pawsby", apparently he's the only solid black cat while his sisters and brother are all white and black or white, gray and black.

>>149781278
>What is he thinking rn?

Khan is a dumbass because the Jaguars were the perfect team to match up with Ben Johnson.

>>149781495
>maxx pawsby
cute, post him

>>149780886
>John Dorsey built the Chiefs.

Indeed, and he would have saved the Browns but they're congenitally retarded and fired him after one year. Thanks, by the way.

>>149781509
>>149781278
I'd rather try my luck with Caleb who can potentially be good rather than Lawrence who is one more bad season away from being a bust.

>>149781495
show me your pussy

>>149781521

And that's why the Bears will continue to suck. Caleb was shit from the start and is too dumb to absorb Ben Johnson's style of coaching.

I expect part of BJ's contract with the Bears stipulated he had to try and fix Caleb for this season but if it doesn't work out, (it won't) he gets a rookie QB of his choice in the next draft.

>>149781555
> but if it doesn't work out, (it won't) he gets a rookie QB
Caleb was the 1st pick of the draft. He could literally not know how to play football and everyone in the building would keep giving him chances to make it work out. There's no such thing as benching a 1st round pick. Heads would roll if you fuck up that badly.

>>149781516
The Giants need to unfuck themselves and hire Dorsey. Neither of George Young's acolytes (Reese/Gettleman) ended up being any good in the end but they overcorrected after Gettleman by hiring an analytics guy in Schoen who completely destroyed a playoff team in the name of "positional value"

The Chiefs need to unfuck themselves and rehire Dorsey.

>>149781662
>the timeline where Chicago picked Daniels

>>149781555
Our GM won't move off a 2nd round bust. There's no way they would move off of Caleb so quickly. Howie Roseman is probably the only GM in the league who could blow the 1st pick of the draft and not have people calling for his head on a spike.

They will keep stalling and telling the owners Caleb just needs more time. Long enough for them to find a new job before being fired.

>>149781782
Howie Roseman ignored his own scouts' advice to draft Justin Jefferson and took Jalen Reagor instead.

>>149781545
based for cucking joeybaumsworld and the bungles in the owl, not based for failing to knock off gaylen squirts and the niggles.

>>149781804
Brett Veach chose Mecole Hardman over DK Metcalf. Not as bad of a fuckup as Howie, but still pretty bad.

>>149781852
Mecole Hardman's a decent role player and caught the winning touchdown in a Super Bowl. Reagor is a huge bust and it's dumb luck that the Cowboys were willing to trade down with a division rival so Philly could take DeVonta Smith and that the Titans general manager committed professional suicide and traded AJ Brown for a bag of Doritos.

He is HIM

MUHFUGEN BIX NOOD

>>149781343
Dude he refused to go there because of Baalke and the Kahn's refused to go there. Then the same thing happened with Liam Coen. Then, they decided to fire him. Everyone knew Baalke was cancer.

>>149781521
Lawrence is way better than Caleb. Both are trash though

>>149781782

Ben Johnson probably fucked his career (at least for now) by holding firm with the Jags and insisting they fire Baalke, because that's a team that already has the pieces for him to turn it around and he probably could have gotten Baalke fired once he showed some success.

With the Bears extending Poles contract, it appears they have more faith in their GM (as incompetent as he is) than their new HC and the fact is that Caleb ain't no Trevor Lawrence, which means the Bears will continue to suck (though they'll do better this season) until Johnson and Poles are both shitcaned and Caleb is traded away by whoever comes in to rebuild the Bears (yet again).

It all starts with the owner and while Khan is a dumbass, he's not a meddler like the McCaskeys.

>>149781852
DK Metcalf is a horrible football player. He's a great specimen but that's it

I'm drunk and I know I'm not making any sense right now. I'm sorry

>>149780831
He's a Chiefs fan who believes everything that comes out of Nick Wright's mouth

Is Marshawn Lynch a HoFer?

>>149781804
Thought it was because Doug Pederson wanted Reagor more than Jefferson.

>>149781495
Cats are the only animal that I know that can get pregnant from different males in one pregnancy cycle. I know this because 20 years ago I had a litter of Kittens which all the kittens looked different with one being entirely grey, one entirely orange, and one being a white and tiger striped.

>>149782057
>led the league in rushing tds a couple times
>10k+ career yards
>probably the most famous rb of all time
>superbowl champ, wouldve won a second (and sb mvp) if he got handed the ball on the goal line
>made the 2010s all decade team
you can argue against him being first ballot, but hes definitely a hall of famer

>>149781346
Imagine taking your 98 Ford F-350 Super Duty Crew Cab, 7.3 Power Stroke to a mechanic and his fingernails look like that.
>Matches the sky I stare at when I forget what I was thinking about haha

Yeah, get me the FUCK out of here!

>>149782101
If Shaun Alexander isn't in Marshawn Lynch doesn't get in imo

>John Elway will not face charges related to the death of his longtime friend, business partner and former agent, Jeff Sperbeck, who died in April from injuries suffered when he fell off a golf cart being driven by the Hall of Fame quarterback.

>Riverside County (California) Sheriff Chad Bianco told Denver TV station 9NEWS that the investigation into Sperbeck's death has concluded.

>"It's over," Bianco told the TV station Friday. "We've talked to everyone involved and we found nothing new. There was nothing criminal, it was what we've been saying all along that this was a tragic accident."

What the fuck happened? Why am I just hearing about this now? Also: "it's over" ha

>>149782175
>>149782101
>Shaun Alexander isn't in Marshawn Lynch
Both of their stats fell off a cliff after age 28. Is the lifespan of RBs really that bad.

>>149781351
He's got dodecahydrogen undecarbon octoxide in the tank

>>149782195
Everyone's different but yea once the legs go they go. That's why what Derrick Henry did at 30 last year is insane. Hopefully we get two more good years out of him

Apologize

>>149782296

>>149782296
I remember when Mahomes started and I was telling everyone you got to watch this guy. This is the best QB I've ever seen. Every week he was making insane throws or having clutch comeback wins, but nobody would watch. Fast-forward to 2023-2024 and everyone is finally watching my team, and he turns into a boring Brady-like QB.

>>149782406
HELLO MAH HONEY
HELLO MAH BABY

I miss Gus Johnson+Aqib Talib booth combination like you wouldn't believe

>>149782414
HELLO MAH HOMEY
HELLO MAH BRADY

>>149756586
I feel bad for Matt Ryan and Derek Carr. Must have been frustrating.

>>149764351
Enough of the ugly posts for the love of God.

>>149781471
Can't.

>>149781982
You're wrong. He is a tremendous specimen and a good football player. Coasting off physical attributes is still a thing.

>>149782695
Sabrina Carpenter is fine as fuck. Had a bartender at my local who looked just like her but more pale. Something about UK chicks sends me

>>149780502
Coach primate

>>149781471
SGAy

>>149782665
Neither would have done anything with a good defense. Stafford and Brees on the other hand would have multiple rings if you gave him Allen's defense.

>>149782754
Fucking racist coward. Prime just needs more help

>>149782782
matt ryan was up 28-3 in the superbowl lol, a good defense wouldve made him a champion

>>149782865
The defence gave him a pick 6. If he had played a turnover free game or had told Kyle Shanahan to not be a fucking moron after they were in FG range he would have an owl ring and probably MVP. He didn't cos he's a pussy

>>149782101
I still consider myself lucky to have actually watched this game life. I missed so many great games/plays due to work but this one watching live was absolutely fucking incredible

>>149782745
For sure. I would be willing to have sex with her, I'll tell you that much right now.

>>149783053
She's a borderline midget

>>149783062
Well of course I'm not saying she's hot enough to satisfy the average 4-channer stud in real life, but she's still pretty hot.

>>149783053
Pussy is pussy. Some hot chicks have mid pussies. Gotta keep up the batting average to make sure you appreciate the right things and that's church bro keep it gully real one

>>149783083
I agree she's pretty hot irl but not hot enough to lust over internet, plenty of better looking ethots

>>149782782
>rings if you gave him Allen's defense.
same defense that gives up 30+ points to mahomes and reid? lol.

>>149783145
If I'm honest I'd admit a good portion of it is her (or whoever is dressing her) taste in lingerie, which is A+++.

I'm going to take the Patrick Plunge in Patrick Mahomes head July 19th at the power and light district!

>>149783732
> For a $15 donation, you can be one of 60 people who can take the, well, plunge
youd think the fee would be higher given how exclusive the ritual is

Sometimes I mix up Tee Higgins and George Pickens in my head

>BREAKING: 49ers WR Jauan Jennings wants a new deal or a trade out of San Francisco

>Jennings, who's entering the final year of his 2-year/$11.890M contract, is due $7.5M this season and would like an extension to elevate his pay.

>If the 49ers are unwilling to renegotiate his deal, Jennings wants to play elsewhere.

>Jennings, 28, is coming off a career-best 2024 season in which he caught 77 passes for 975 receiving yards and 6 TDs.

>>149785581
Probably fair, t.bh. He led the team in targets (2nd in receptions and yards behind Kittle) last season and always seems reliable. Plus he blocks.

>>149781895
>>149781931
Screen pass babby

>>149781862
>Cowboys were willing to trade down with a division rival
If the Eagles didn't take him the Giant would have (when Philly moved up the Giants panicked and ended up with Kadarius Toney kek). Might as well get something out of it (though all they got was Chauncey Golston).

>>149785333
That's understandable. They're both big boys and excellent WR2s. Jayden Higgins is gonna be another one.

>>149785837
There's so many Jayden/Jaden/Jaylen/Jalen players now, by the way.

What exactly is the endgame with Dak and the Cowboys?

How much longer are they going to drag this out? Will they wait until he's too old to play and retires rather than admit they were wrong?

>What exactly is the endgame with Dak and the Cowboys?
RANGZ BABY HOL UP HOL UP

>>149785980
>soon

i;m thinkgen bout thos boyz again

>>149785980
I think if you've got a top 10-ish QB it's best to stick with him and build around him and hope for the best.

>>149778186
In your own list Brady was considered a top 6 QB of all time by the end of the 2009 season by the people that wrote that. You can also easily find pieces calling him a top 3 QB of all time by 2007, with many ready to crown him the GOAT
https://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs07/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3209882
It's not unlike how Mahomes would already be considered the 2nd GOAT had he won last owl. It's just that that mountain Mahomes has to scale is much larger than the one Brady had to scale (i.e. matching Brady vs matching Montana)
Since you want to bring media opinions, let's point out Brady was all decade QB1 for the 2000s and 2010s. No one will ever surpass that.
>>149777713
Brady was considered by most the GOAT by 2014, though it was a neck and neck, first among equals thing with Montana. 2016 just ended the conversation. Add 3 more SB appearances, more MVPs, 2 more all pros, 2 more rings, including one with a new team, and the he's doubled the next closest.

>>149785917
Rams colors instead of Chargers for Herbie there

>>149786188
I will literally kill myself

>>149780661
you sound like a raiders fan, anon.

Eli Manning is the GOAT

>>149787631
Lol the right tackle with the hold

>>149787631
>throwing a pick six to a white CB
How does one recover?

Who will be the first head coach to blame a loss on the new headsets?

149787469
slow down little buddy not reading all that shit lol

>>149786188
Why would Vikings sign Dak as JJ's backup?

>>149787857
Cowsoi fans have deluded themselves into thinking any team is going to trade for black Kirk cousins

>>149785980
They’re stuck. No one is taking his contract off their hands. They can look at drafting his replacement when they come in last place in the nfce this year and then give the replacement the JLove treatment while they run out the clock on his monstrous guaranteed contract.

>>149782537
Kek

oh so in one of the deepest rb classes in recent memory >we of course had to choose derrius guice 2.0, cool cool cool
the cherry on top to make it a true certified browns moment would be chubb returning to his 2022 form in houston while judkins serves his suspension
in dylan sampson we trust i guess, good thing berry at least double dipped on the position

>>149787815
New headsets?
Qrd?

>>149787945
>when they come in last place in the nfce this year
Anon, they're in a division with THE New York Giants

i have 6 cats

>>149788128
Who will have a great defense imo and a much improved OL. I think they will both miss the playoffs and finish within a game of each other.

>>149788146
And none of them can catch an owl

post 462

What a beautiful and dignified woman

*farts*

>>149787192
This. People don't like to hear it but getting a QB as good as or better than Dak isn't easy so they're going to hang onto him for as long as they can.

I think Joe burrow is gay

>>149788191
Are the Cowboys really that bad? I don't keep up with them

>>149788247

>>149788281
I don’t see how they possibly plugged the hole on their greatest weakness last year, which was a complete lack of a run game. Without play action Dak will be very neutered in what he can do and doubly so coming off the injury. I think their defensive front while good is very undersized and gets worn down as the season goes on, which we’ve seen time and again in Micah’s numbers plummeting after the first half of the season.

>>149787469
>Brady was considered by most the GOAT by 2014, though it was a neck and neck, first among equals thing with Montana
Montana was perfect in the Superbowls and put up great stats. Brady needed 5 rings to pass him from my memory.

CERTIFIED

>>149788346
Montana was the original systembabby QB

>>149788358
absolute disaster after 4

>>149788358
Staffy still commanding respect.

>>149788358
Mayfield is unironically top 5

It's Russell Wilson Time!

Why do we say the last name for most players but some get their first name?
I get for like Peyton and Eli but like why do we usually say Baker instead of Mayfield?

>>149788402
cause he serves bitches fresh from the oven
next question

>>149788402
name another baker? yeah there's not another mayfield but baker is rather unique as a first name

>>149788358
how is goof ahead of hurts? why is herbert any higher than 10? who the fuck would put jayden in the top 5 after one fluke season

>>149788358
The only difference between that and other rankings is that the executives, coaches, and scouts aren't worried about clickbait and ratings, so they can say what they actually think.

>>149788314
I was fully expecting them to get Derick Henry. They had a good 23 season. They were the #2 seed. Then they lost horribly against the 7th seed and they just never recovered.

>>149788358
That's identical to my ranking except I would swap Baker with Goff.

>>149788358
>NFL execs finally agree with the Kiwi that Goff, Hurts and Baker are top 10 QBs
took them long enough
>they're still falling for the Herbie meme
ewww..... can't imagine still rating le social media QB

>>149788424
>how is goof ahead of hurts?
Goff is a superior thrower of the football. Goff just shits his pants under pressure unlike Hurts who gets better under pressure. Hurts also has an unstoppable tush push since he benches 600lbs. If you needed to win the regular season you'd take Goff, if you needed to win a Superbowl you'd take Hurts.

>>149756288
>stats
>nfl
lmao

>>149788468
how many times did goff lose 7 of 9 games to end a season?

>>149788490
I don't even know what you mean by that. Stats matter in sports.

>>149788508
How many superteams has Goff been on compared to Jalen?
Eagles GM is the best in the business. Jalen has had a top 5 roster for his entire career.

>>149788358
Goff and Herbert (and Stafford somewhat) ahead of Hurts is insane.

hurts is superior no matter how you look at it. both have elite OLs. both have elite WRs. both have elite RBs. both have good HCs and elite coordinators. only one of them has reached the big game, and he's done it twice.
>>149788508
one time, same as hurts. how many times has goff won a conference?

>>149788468
>Goff is a superior thrower of the football
That's not true though

>>149788559
It’s an aside, but Goff did reach the SB in 2018 with the Rams.

>>149788346
Sure. It wasn't unanimous in 2014.

>>149788402
Mayfield is an antisemitic last name

never put that faggot chiefs team on my TV ever again

>>149788513
stats are pretty much meaningless in football. too much garbage time and indifference. you only need to look to the most recent superbowl for proof. the mutt had a 95 passer rating and they got absolutely destroyed.
borrow had one of the best years of his career because his team sucked.

>>149788559
Eagles have far superior receivers
Lions benefited from having Ben Johnson

>>149788358
Top 4 are the only ones that matter. 5-12 ish are in constant flux.

>>149788584
true i forgot about that

>>149788537
thanks for making my point that goff on eagles would be a huge upgrade

New

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>>149788606

>>149788606

>>149788281
>>149788314
This roster is ass, pure ass.
>offense
Dak is bad, he looked like shit last year before he got hurt. The O-line has massive holes. As anon said, the run game doesn't exist. Lamb is pretty good but he's a slot babby (and again, he will be held back by weak QB/run game).
>defense
Parsons is great but overrated. Odighizuwa is good but overrated. The rest are shit. The d-line is awful, one of the worst in run defense last year and might be worse. Overshown looked good but his knee is mashed potatoes. The rest of the LBs are awful. And finally, the secondary is trash. Diggs is already ded and washed (though he was never good). Bland is bad. Like Diggs he's a gambler and can't cover, and he's also coming off a big injury. Next man up is Kaiir Elam.
I will say, though, Kavonte Turpin is really good at returning kicks.

>>149788424
>who the fuck would put jayden in the top 5after
He was the best QB in the league last year
>one fluke season
You cannot call it a fluke with a sample size of 1

>>149788418
>name another Baker
Budda Baker

ITS LIKE HE WAS SMASHING A ROCK ON HIS HEAD.

>>149755886
anybody think mahomes been injured?