For those of you who still don't consider him GOAT, what exactly do you consider is missing in his career to be crowned GOAT?
>passes eye test
>insane highligt reels
>bunch of league and cup titles
>bunch of CLs
>bunch of top scorer awards
>most ballon d'ors
>copa america
>WC
>finalissima
I cant tell anything thats missing. How is he not the GOAT?

>>149838274 (OP)
EURO with Portugal > 5 pen WC with Argentina
And in UCL he gets destroyed by Ronaldo
simple as

>>149838351
Ronaldo is not even top 5 OAT

He gets invited to Yamal birthday parties as the midget

I just don't like midgets

>>149838351
>5 pen WC
It's worse than that... He was awarded 6 & missed one. It really was that epic of a rig.

>>149838274 (OP)
He choked so hard in his prime
Could have won +2 WC +5 CL +2 copamacaco but he didnt because he fell for the statpad meme to compete with Cristiano and only allowed Barcelona to hire his mate Suarez as #9.

Absolute financial cancer for both Barca and PSG

Anyone could tell you that if you put Cristiano in that Barca squad he would have scored 1500 goals and win 10 CL in a row and solved the goat debate in

Basically this is why messi fans hate cristiano: he made messi look like a lazy carried spic with zero ambition.

>>149838274 (OP)
I don't know why you're expecting logic from a bunch of 'bobs & vagene' people. Here's a quick photo of who you're trying to talk to here. You can't have a civil discussion with uncivilized people. Just let it go, dude.

>>149838274 (OP)
>what exactly do you consider is missing in his career to be crowned GOAT
the clutch gene
hes completely invisible if the game isnt already dominated by his team

>>149838371
lol

>>149838274 (OP)

Oh look another Missi Riggitini thread, now you have to make Misstiano Penaldo thread too or Chikaner will go nuts again.

>hgh babby
>barça pr fraud
>had to retire once from the argie nt because chile kept buckbreaking him
>had to retire in ligue1 to prepare for the towelhead wc
>needed SIX penalties to bag it
>had to wait for conmebol to organize a copa america every six months to have a shot at winning (carried by di maria)
>currently completing futbol in the mlels against part-time corn syrup stirrers
enough

>>149838442
>but he didnt because he fell for the statpad meme to compete with Cristiano and only allowed Barcelona to hire his mate Suarez as #9.
Absolutely schizo take, even for your standards

>>149838673
Sums it up pretty well, you just forgot the numerous Champion's League rigs and the null and void Negreira sphere league titles

Anyone with a brain has acknowledged Messi as the GOAT for 10-15 years. The people who you're referring to will never consider him the GOAT because they're Penaldo fanboys, even if he also wins the 2026 WC and somehow goes to the 2030 WC and wins that too it won't matter, they will just scream rigged and continue to hype up Ronaldo's mickey mouse nations league trophies.

>>149838351
>EURO with Portugal

And yet he has *never* won an Euro final

from the ages of 24-38 he won one CL

>>149838351
>play 25 minutes
>get subbed because of injury
>team barely wins in ot
not to mention how they scraped by to even get to the finals with ronaldo getting a single goal in the knockout stages
ronaldo simply didnt win the euro

>>149839331
>>149839484
O ALFONSO

>muh CLs
Then fucking vinicius or whatever is better than Messi. You people are fucking retards no offense
People who hate on Messi are usually third worlders or complete retards. Easily the most talented player to play the game

>>149839484
>he only scored the winner in the semi and finished as the team's top scorer so it doesn't count

i always wonder if you peabrains think you're making good arguments when you post things like this

>>149839581
>the winner
>second goal in a 2:0

>He took drugs
>He clearly regressed once his drug regimen was changed, see physique and stats post 2012
>He was exposed as a xavi/iniesta/nerman baby once they left barca
>exposed as a Di Maria baby in every international tournament
>the unbelievable levels of manipulation by CON-ME-bol to get him a trophy
>the unbelievable levels of rigging by FIFA to get him a trophy
>if any other player was given 5 penalties they also could win the World Cup
>Neymar had to teach him how to take penalties at the age of 35
>still only won those trophies because of di Maria
>He took drugs for YEARS
Even with all this he's still the best player I have ever seen, but I prefer the 3 Ronaldos and Nerman
>if he didn't take drugs he would be 4'7" dribbling for change on a Rosario street corner

>>149838421
>>149838351
We made 15 goals in the WC and we got awarded 5 penalties and Messi missed one againts Poland

His whole career is a sham, from the begining where he took performance enhancing drugs for years, to the obviously rigged World Cup in favor of Qatar-PSG-Argentina-Messi, and everything in beetwen where the 2009, 2011 and 2015 Champions Leagues wins were rigged for UEFAlona also. Ronaldo has a much cleaner record, if anything, every odds was against him and he still defeated all the shenanigans. The World Cup he probably will never win because Portugal doesn't have enough influence to rigg a World Cup, which is very important to win, see all the examples in history, Argentina 78, France 98, England 66 and many others, and also lets face it Portugal chokes a lot.

But yeah there is no way Messi is number 1, he's not even top 3, he's a fraud.

>>149838274 (OP)
>Growth drugs
>Negreira
>Argentina's got reffballed af in the WC
>His performances in CL were good but not goat worthy
Those are some that come to mind.

>>149838351
>in UCL he gets destroyed by Ronaldo

Ok retard

it's a demolition

>>149838274 (OP)
eibar

>>149838475
This is why I don't waste time arguing with Penaldo fans k.

>>149838274 (OP)
not brown enough

>>149838274 (OP)
who's that

>>149839973
>His performances in CL were good

>>149839963
>to the obviously rigged World Cup
France getting 2 penalties and Muani missing a 1v1 were rigged? Amazing...I always ask how FIFA managed to rig someone missing a clear chance to win the game for his national team.

>>149838274 (OP)
Non rigged trophies

>>149839963
>everything Messi ever did was rigged
Sweet cope, go on.

>>149838351
>>149838529
>>149839605
>Rigged
So like most CL won by Ronaldo and Real Madrid where a lot of goals are offside,gifted Penalties?
So your goat is Ronaldo that has been embarasing in most world cup and will most likely end not winning it but no even getting a goal contribution? Thats your goat?

His results with Argentina before Qatar
His results with Barca without Inesta
His results with PSG
His results in Miami

>>149838274 (OP)
Are you the same Swede who sucks off Ohtani in /mlb/?? I bet you are.

>>149838442
Never stop tweining pls

>>149839296
This applies to the average Penaldo thirdworlder fanboi. Then there is this: >>149838442

>>149838351
>>149838442
Messi’s been to two World Cup finals (2014 and 2022), while CR7’s never sniffed one. That alone puts Leo light-years ahead.
Messi’s career goal ratio (0.78 goals per game, 827 in 1059 matches) edges out Ronaldo’s ,899 in 1186, but the real gap is assists—Messi’s got 401, nearly double Ronaldo’s 252. Messi is creating and dribbling while CR7’s is padding stats with tap-ins and penalties. , Ronaldo’s got 165 career PK goals—way more than Messi’s 110—yet Leo’s still got a better non-penalty goal rate in less matches
Ronaldo’s Euro 2016? Carried by Eder’s fluke goal and Portugal’s parking the bus
zero goals in all World Cup knockouts, bounced early in most Euros
Ronaldo’s juiced-up physique screams more chemistry than a lab
And in most Real madrid UCL matches they were awarded either soft penalties or offside goals.
He will get embarassed at WC 2026 again btw and he wish he had the Career Messi has.

kek at argieseether
reminder that after ronaldo went to real he destroyed pissis gpg

>>149838274 (OP)
>charisma, presence, character, flaws, tough background, overcoming adversity
he has none of those, he's boring as fuck

>>149840925
why did you quote me, weirdo

Messi isn't him. It's that simple.

He's a retarded pisser manlet. I FUCK ANTONELLAS BUTTHOLE and then I punch Missoy until he cries.

>>149841143
Why are you such a pussy? Reply to him directly or ignore it if you truly don't care.

>>149840925
Never said my goat is Ronaldo, Messi is THE goat, Neymar is MY personal goat. Ronaldo.used to be my personal goat, but I'm not talking about Cristiano. Take a chill pill Kun, your son is a dl fag, Diego would be disappointed.

The real GOAT is Michael Laudrup, the best playmaker and passer ever. He's the blueprint of all the Messi and iniesta types that came later. Many goat type players acknowledge him as one of the very best but he completely flies under the plebs radar. He won 5 La Lifas in a row with Barca went to Madrid and won 5 more in a row KEK. He was simply better than Messi who needed mega rigging and giga stacked teams for most of his titles and hgh (still the 2nd best player ever probably). And he was way better than Ronaldo who is barely top 10. When he transformed into a poacher he simply lost the ability to will his teams to victory when they weren't playing good. He simply couldn't influence the games as much because he was always upfront and didn't do much playmaking. He became easy to shut down in the most important matches against world class teams in world cups because of that.

>>149841516
Hard Carried by Garrincha

>>149838274 (OP)
short and HGH
the GOAT of a sport cannot be roided

>>149841907
Laudrup is 89 rated on FIFA. Maradona is 95 rated and Zidane is 94 rated.

>>149842131
Very dumb since he's better than both

>>149841907
>Ronaldo not even top 10

cmon bro ,

He aint Dinho. Simple as.

He is the goat because of his prime but his career is completely without value past 2015. He never achieved his full potential. If he wasn't gifted his WC he'd have nothing

>>149842362
His overall career is definitely top 5
His talent is top 10
His work ethic is top 1
But his choice to become a poacher made it possible to shut him down in important matches. It's sad because he was a very capable playmaker even genius at times. I wish he would have focused on that more than one goals he could have really rivaled pissi then.

>>149838274 (OP)
Needs to prove himself in a better league like the prem

>>149842458
yeah i get ur point, however he was made to be a killer, to be a complete player

>>149838274 (OP)
>what exactly do you consider is missing in his career to be crowned GOAT?
He's not better than Maradona.

Simple as.

>>149838274 (OP)
hes failed too many times at the biggest stage
how many times did he lose to chile (how many times did he "retire" from the nt)
what happened in 2014 against germany

>>149842940
Maradona spent his whole career carrying average teams to trophies. Pele played with Brazil's golden generation, Messi played with peak Barca, all the other greats played for good teams but Maradona didn't and still won trophies with them. The real GOAT

>>149838274 (OP)
It's not his career, his career is great, it's just that he can't score with right foot and score headers and far from the box.

Ronaldo is a more "complete" athlete than him.

>>149843919
Some of his most iconic goals were scored with his right foot. He also has more outside the box goals than Ronaldo.

>>149843672
trvke
pissi would never lead a team like napoli to 2 serie a and the UEFA cup

>>149844475
>Some of his most iconic goals were scored with his right foot.

First: all of his (Messi) goals look the same
Second: despite Ronaldo being right footed, he is in top 10 scorers with left foot.

>>149844555
pessi cant even carry his team consisting of suarez, busquets and alba against monterrey lmoa
history will not be kind to him

>>149838274 (OP)
Three World Cups.

>>149840925
I would have loved to play against Portugal and ass rape them so this "debate" would be over, but they always falls short and get sent back before facing us.

>>149847726
>>149838274 (OP)
If a playing career in Europe surpasses a playing career in South America, then, Messi just needs two more World Cups to surpass Pelé, as the GOAT. But Pelé is still the current GOAT.

>>149838274 (OP)
zidane is/was better.

>>149847789
the closest we've got to that happening was in 2014 but Portugal ended up getting knocked out in the group stage

>>149847789
it took the reffies to save you last WC, you chicanos are no better than ingerlund, lol

>>149849501
Name a clean tournament winner.