Thread 149864464

Without sounding black give me a reason why he isn't the greatest boxer of all time?

>>149864464 (OP)
He is a ukranian piece of shit. Hohols can't be number one at anything except dying for the jew

>>149864464 (OP)
I haven't seen enough of his fights to make judgement. I think a GOAT has to have 10+ title defences.

>>149864464 (OP)
because he lost the first Dubois fight! and no this isn't bait i am being 100% serious. his shorts were hella high

>>149864464 (OP)

because all the best American boxers play NFL

>>149864600
Russia moggs them at that.

>>149864704
Lost every round before that and after and quit after a jab

>>149864464 (OP)
usyk is the goat

>>149864464 (OP)
Muhammad Ali and Lennox Lewis have every advantage against him, including ring IQ, counters and slipping

>>149864895
Every boxing fight before the late 90's was fake

>>149864464 (OP)
Hw boxing is scripted, why do you think a Ukrainian suddenly came out of nowhere and beat everyone while the great war against the big bad Russia was happening.

>>149864895
Usky is bigger than Ali and faster, he would have killed him lol.
Mutts will always overrate their "golden generation" when no one else gave a fuck about boxing, we see currently with MMA what happens when the rest of the world catches up.

>>149864960
Usyk was beating everyone at CW aswell, also he went to HW during covid long before the war started.

>>149865135
>Usky is bigger than Ali and faster,

>>149864847
true but he still won from the shot

>>149865135
>when no one else gave a fuck about boxing
What a fucking retard. Do you not remember your own countryman Max Schmelling? You fucking retarded Turkroach don't ever tell people you watch boxing

>>149864960
He defeated Joshua for the title in 2021

>>149865250
an IF situation.
Usyk would got up and continue to fight if it was ruled out as bodyshot

>>149864960
How come they can fake boxing fights so well when pro wrestlers whose job is to literally fake fights, could never do it as convincingly?

>>149864919
>>149864960

>>149864895
Lennox Lewis is massively overrated and Muhammad Ali has ascended to an almost untouchable level in public opinion but he was far from a perfect fighter.

>>149865508
It's alis heart that made him special. Taking a beating to one of the heaviest hitters the world has ever seen just to tire him out is psychotic behaviour.

>>149864464 (OP)
Hes up there for sure, the US media has hyped their fighters as legendary and invincible so public opinion is harsh.
The average person probably doesn't even know Ali lost 5 times and probably should have lost against Cooper with the smelling salts.

>>149864464 (OP)
Tyson Fury didn't take him seriously

>>149865250
…which was a low blow.

>>149864704
A "belt line" is determined by the pelvic bones, not a boxer's trunks. Almost all boxers wear high trunks to give an impression of a higher belt line, but he was struck with a low blow in the first fight.

>>149864464 (OP)
Duran and Pacquiao have greater accolades.

>>149864600
you sound black to me.

>>149864464 (OP)
what's it like being a literal slav in ireland?

>>149869007
Better than a wetback beaner midget in the US.

>>149864895
The opposite is true. Usyk would dog walk either of those guys, hate it or love it.

>>149864464 (OP)
i cant...

>>149865272
>1 dude
no one cared you retarded mutt

>>149864464 (OP)
He's great, but he mostly defeated English plumbers at Heavyweight.

>>149864600
kys

>>149864625
This was his 11th title defence

Muhammed Ali got dropped by a 185 pound Henry Cooper
Usyk is slapping around 250+ pound black bulls on the regular

>>149864464 (OP)
This era’s Heavyweight division is literally dog shit.

The fact that something as simple as weight transfer while throwing shots, won him this fight should tell you everything you need to know about how garbage Dubois and the other Heavyweights are.

He’s the Tom Aspinall of boxing. Got in a good place when all the good fighters aged out and all the prospects were skyrocketed to the top because of how barren the last is.

>>149864600
Usyk's first language is Russian albeit

>>149864740
4PBP

>>149864704
If Usyks shorts were high then what were Dubois? Almost every opponent Usyk has faced at HW has worn their shorts higher than Usyk does.

>>149865243
Objectively True. Usyk is also bigger than Holyfield. Usyk is around the same size as Goerge foreman.

>>149864464 (OP)
Because he ran away from fighting Russia. Every single Russian soldier is a greater warrior than this cowardly entertainer.

>>149864464 (OP)
Fixed that for you
Replace black with a generic white and watch the seethe commence

>>149865243
They got the same height weight reach and even birthday
Seeing uysk being this good against giants means Ali does have a chance .
And golden era was more competitive
>>149884690
Is belal are our guy? Are we gonna make it bros ? I’m sure he secretly fucks high end escorts

>>149864464 (OP)
I think he could heem everyone except for Lennox and Tyson (i know that he's a fraud)

>>149864895
Ali's reputation is an insane thing that makes absolutely no sense except that he was an icon during civil rights or something. He his reputation beating second raters or guys past their prime, til the rigged Liston fights. After that he went 1-1-1 with a blind Frazier, lost to Spinks, lost to Norton. The Foreman fight cemented his reputation since Foreman was such a monster, but his resume is full of losses and close calls to guys Usyk would kill.

>>149865135
I wish you wouldn't agree with me about Ali, because you're so retarded that you make my opinion look retarded by association.

>>149864960
Sorry about the Fury fights, but it's time to move on.

>>149864960
>suddenly came out of nowhere
they even invented time travel to make it even more believeable!

>>149864464 (OP)
Prime BOOMMMMMM SKWAAAAAAA would heem him.
Not even saying he would be the better boxer, he would just throw a wild one, heem him and win.

>>149864960
You thick cunt lmao, embarrassing

>>149864464 (OP)
Bum era he isnt even a natural heavyweight but he's in my top 5

>>149864464 (OP)
it's ali because he was vocally against race mixing and Zionism

>>149864464 (OP)
He would beat every heavyweight that has ever existed.
he is just too good