Terutsuyoshi Edition
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>>149934887 (OP)When will someone step up and become the big salt thrower again?
1st for an absolute clown Basho.
>>149934927funny that nobody stepped up yet. NSK should force Ura to do it, since he's throwing the least amount
Onosato is going into his 11th match against maegashitters, Hakuho often faced as few as 5 or 6 in a basho and there were occasions when he dropped two of those matches. So all the screeching about Onosato is extremely misinformed.
Hosh faced 3 and lost all of them, thats bad.
>>149934927Akua was doing it for a while before he dropped to Makushita.
I really miss that little fucker.
>>149935110Akua's bow twirling is pretty mediocre, he stomps are good, but the rest of it is trash. Glad they decided to go with a new guy
It's Terutsuyoshi edition because this basho has brought about extreme amounts of salt
Abi lite got robbed. Don't know why Onosato insists on pulling back.
>>149935563>Don't know why Onosato insists on pulling back.same reason why Abi needs to henka, keeping the other guy confused about what you're going to do next is important. if you don't to it then the other guy can over commit against you worry free.
Onosato just sucks at pulling & slapdowns, its not that he does them at all thats bad, other guys are just fine using those techniques to win, Onosato is bad at using them.
Onosato is a dai yokozuna when he is moving forward and M12w moving backwards
I don't mind if he loses the yusho. Getting two digits on his debut is already enough to prove he has what it takes to be a 'zuna.
>>149936289>gives away 3 kinbosh>destroys sanyaku utterlyhelp me understand
>Ichiyamamoto tomorrow
>Kusano on saturday
>Kotoshoho on sunday
Aonishiki schedule
>>149935088We've gone over this. Numeru-san showed us the stats. Both of our current yokozuna have had historically bad debuts by the metric of kinboshi not dispensed divided by kinboshi eligible matches. You are the one who is misinformed. Whatever the new era might be, it hasn't started yet. We're still in the crater left by Hakuho.
>>149936532Kinboshi system is a little broken if you ask me. Sumo itself already has no weight divisions, so everyone has a chance by default. The kinboshi system ignores the fact that there are rising stars climbing to the top at full speed (like Onosato himself and I guess Kusano now) and ex sanyaku wrestlers who got demoted. Of course they'll eventually face sanyaku wrestlers, which means they'll fight someone on their skill level. Not really saying this is an excuse to lose to jobbers, but this isn't a proper way to measure his performance.
>>149936532he stopped going forward, it's that simple
>>149936844Whether someone is a rising star or a worn out veteran makes no difference. They are ranked where they are for a reason, according to their recent performance. Yokozuna losing to a lower ranked opponent should be rare.
Wakamotoharu reached Makuuchi at 28, Tamashoho did it at 31. Tamawashi has been competing for 21 years. Should they be denied kinboshi just for that? Or should one's kinboshi be retroactively erased once they reach sanyaku?
Is it the end-all be-all of performance measurment? No. Does it measure something meaningful? Yes.
If they didn't suck so hard at that particular metric, we would just be discussing their overall records.
>>149936912https://youtu.be/7jxEe-XdfR8?feature=shared
He did it successfully in the Ichiyamamoto and Takerufuji matches, in the wakamotoharu and Oho matches he was overpowered, Takayasu stopped his charge in the first match, Takayasu in the playoff and Wakatakakage almost threw him at the edge.
He can't 100% rely on pushing.
Yokozuna Aonishiki will have a much better Kinboshi rate.
>>149937342Those wins weren't at yokozuna, so you can't extrapolate them that way sweaty.
In 12 hours Aonishiki will be the outright leader and the 10-3 group will be Onosato & Kotoshoho. In 36 hours Onosato will be the sole chaser. In 60 hours Aonishiki will try to eat the giant macaroon because nobody told him it's just a prop yet and he will probably be hungry after winning and then collecting trophies.
>>149937468Damn, so he's even better than the goat.
>another day another kinbos-Wait! SCRUBnosato got saved by a torinaoshi, lmao.
Also, shout out to my guy, Rikishi Formerly Known As Kiribayama - the more time passes, the more sure I am he ain't have what it takes.
>>149936844>like Onosato himselfHow many kinboshi does he have?
>>149938247>How many kinboshi does he have?Dan & Onosato both has their makuuchi debut at M15 followed by consecutive 11-4s and Onosato landed a komusubi west for his 3rd makuuchi basho and ppl were complaining that Dan only got M1e, however they both got their first wins against yokozuna in their 3rd basho and only Dan got a kinboshi so maybe it was Onosato who got the short end of the stick
>>149937611>Aonishiki wins the basho>They give him the trophies>He tries to bite the damn macaron>He goes back to the locker room to take the commemorative photo, etc.>Shishi is waiting for him there>"I've trained you well..."
If Aonishki wins the basho, who will ride with him in the parade?
>>149938887If Aonishiki finishes 13-2 (not losing a single bout until the end of the basho), I hope he gives the honor to Takayasu, the only one who defeated him without being King Kong.
Besides, Takayasu has a lot of experience holding the damn flag.
Atami vs Zak, who do you've got? We've got two hobbled fighters trying to recover their momentum.
>>149938887It would have to be a makuuchi wrestler from Isegahama unless he decides to break from tradition to pick someone outside his ichimon. Maybe Hakuoho?
>>149939061my heart says zak but I fully expect tommy to win tonight
>>149938608Shishi really is the missing link between monkeys (like Niggerzuchido) and man.
Kisenosato praising Dan's ability and saying that he expects Dan to win the championship
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/07/25/kiji/20250725s00005000070000c.html
>>149939543Sheeiiiiiiitttuchido is in Shishi's stable.
So you can imagine the burden that is on Shishi and explains a lot of his questionable performance. He can't sleep well because of the rap music blasting all night and the groid is probably always smoking weed and demanding gibes from Shishi since he is the only guy in the stable with no salary.
>gibes me sum yens muffugguh>don't be raysis, gibes me dat yens nigga
>>149940208You're retarded and gay.
>>149940208Fake news: The Phantom Hominids (Africans) are afraid of Homo Erectus (Shishi). In that damn stable, they're collecting all the pieces of human evolution to find out which one is best suited for sumo. It's fascinating...
>>149940160>Onosato has donkey brains and will personally insert the bottle if he ever moves backwards againwow that's a bit harsh from Nishonoseki
Today, they're wrapping up the non-salaried divisions. They paired up the remaining 6-0s in each division. There will be playoffs in jonokuchi and jonidan if Kaki loses against Gonowaka. Yago vs Asahakuryu should be a good match.
Is it OK I don't like Hiradoumi because I think he has a fish face?
>>149940620Gonowaka won, so all of the 6-1s in jonokuchi have a chance of securing the yusho by playoffs.
>>149940208You are based and straight
>>149940925futaGOYama goys, we are in the yusho playoff
>>149940208all true, I'm Shishi
Tamawashi might have a financial incentive to lose tonight, especially if Abi wins. Those two will be the ones vying for the valuable open sanyaku slot for Aki, however if Takayasu does well enough to open up the S2 slot for himself then both komusubi ranks will be open and Tamawashi is pretty much guaranteed one of them. Since Abi is two ranks ahead of Tom and only one win behind him, Tom getting to komusubi with only one slot open seems somewhat far fetched
>>149941138You need 20 kinboshi to equal the salary increase for even a single tournament at lower sanyaku.
Ikazuchido: bruh, u see dat vidya game an sheeiiitt? we wuz kangz back in sengoku days dawg, we wuz nobunagas muffugguh
Shishi: its 3 in the morning, will you shut the fuck up and let me sleep? we have practice in a few hours
Ikazuchido: u racis yt bitch u owez me da reparation
>>149941203Thankfully Nigerians aren't the same as American blacks, especially Nigerians born and raised in Japan.
>>149941203this isn't a realistic conversation because Shishi cannot speak Japanese
>>149941412Ikazuchimp: OOGA BOOGA BOO
Shishi: ะaัะบะฝะธcั ะฝaั
yะน ะธ ะดaะน ะผะฝe ะฟocะฟaัั, ะฑะปััั
Ikazuchimp: OOK OOK EEK EEK
>>149941482This actually happened
why there aren't women sumo fighters?
>>149941589Because women are stupid
>>149941589Historically men and womens sumo were run by separate organizations. When the Meiji government considered banning sumo as a whole as being outdated and barbaric, mens sumo was permitted to continue because they had influential allies in government. The idea of women being impure because of menstrual blood was invented around this time to give a religious justification, as the Meiji government was also pushing state Shinto as a singular established religion instead of a hodgepodge of regional beliefs syncretized with Buddhism and other imported foreign mythologies.
>>149941589Not allowed + no woman could possibly compete at a high level against males.
https://hochi.news/articles/20250725-OHT1T51067.html?page=1
https://hochi.news/articles/20250725-OHT1T51076.html?page=1
Tobizaru and Takerufuji kyujo
>>149935563>Abi lite got robbed.Torinaoshi was the correct call.
Who touched first? Ichi.
But Onosato was dead body.
Honestly Onosato should have won without the Torinaoshi, but Torinaoshi was the correct call so there could be no doub.t
>>149941643>Not allowed + no woman could possibly compete at a high level against malesHigh level?
They wouldn't do shit at the lowest of the low levels
have britbongs really been blocked? nigel say something retarded so we know it's you
>>149941729not on the official website yet so I don't believe you
>>149941749well yeah but some of the guys in the lower divisions are serious jobbers with zero physicality
>>149941748100% the right call
Now the official site is updated, but it only says Tobizaru is out
>>149941589I want to watch bull elk fight, not trample flowers.
>>149942087Hey I thought you guys all disappeared
>>149942182hackers on steroids on something
>>149941605Its not an invented concept. It appears in religions the world over, including in native american ones in America. Kike.
>>149941729>>149941786they're both kyujo yes, was shown on NHK
looking forward to seeing the taker later on
ayyYYYUUUUUUSSSSHHHHOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMw2it8dQY
>>149942549can any higher level weebs please tell me the instruments used for these sounds? I would appreciate it deeply.
>>149942560https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hy%C5%8Dshigi
These?
All the pressure is on Charlie Chan to keep pace now
well done Mita, oyataka must have been pleased
>>149942578I more meant the drum noises, I hear them in loads of kabuki stuff. But thank you I didn't know the right name for the clackers either
>>149942636the drum noises are made by drums
>>149942636>>149942560https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuzumi
>>149942578>>149942660based obscure instruments knower
jjangkkae keeps pace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jZCSC5LU-I
>>149942785based, uh, stroke haver
>>149942805And an Altan-Ochir to you, sir!
>>149942660Fuck yeah, thank you
Imagine being Nabatame
>You ignore your obvious injury
>You refuse to have surgery so as not to fall on the banzuke
>You're the only other sekitori in your stable, aside from Roga
>One day, one of your best friends, and one of your high school sumo rivals, joins your stable
>Mita sweeps his sumo debut and quickly rises
>Mita becomes a sekitori
>Even with your injury, you're still "ahead" of Mita
>Your injury worsens, your oyakata has "the talk" with you: surgery now or tears later
>You agree to have the surgery; juryo is very tough, and Mita won't advance much
>You can get your spot back after the surgery...
>First basho where you're absent
>Mita is going to win the juryo basho
>In no time, you'll be the one personally serving him rice...
>Everything will be recorded for posterity in the stable vlogs
Babutamebros...
>>149942874life is hard when you've got tranny cock on the mind 24/7
>>149942919Keep saying it and eventually it'll be funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2N-_p8wOdw
>Hokuseiho vs Midorifuji
>Kataonami has just 4 rikishi
>2 are sekitori
>Thus the other 2 are by default their attendants
What would happen if Kataonami got another sekitori?
>>149943041They borrow attendants from within the ichimon.
>>149943041They will have no choice but to go and invade another stable to claim some rikishi as servants and attendants.
>>149943041They run a train on the last attendant
Great fight from both men.
>>149943041Davy Back Fight to get more or die trying
Is it known when Kayo will give birth to his quintuplets at 8 months of gestation?
>>149943091One Piece fucking sucks please don't bring it up.
>t. has been following it since 2003
how did this butterball escape juryo
>>149943100Yokozuna Kurohige
>>149943108Imagine how happy he was on promotion. Imagine him putting on that new bright yellow mawashi for the first time, like a child on Christmas.
>>149943100b-but Davy Back Fights are relevant again!
Roga just can't win without Koga's special chanko.
>>149943133Shut up, Oda is just sprinkling pointless member berries into the manga so readers can think they're smart for remembering things.
>>149943108Nakamura's Fiesty Training Transformation.
>>149943133>filler is now plotA new low
Quiet thread for the number of dreams made or crushed tonight. Even the viewers kyujo.
what a fucking play by abi
Abi finally KK again. It's been too long with him outside the sanyaku
the aonishiki meme dies today
Abi heel dropped his opponent's spine to cripple him after winning and nobody said a word to stop him
>>149943325Well, nobody said anything when Nomi no Sukune did it
>>149943325It's impossible to tell Abi something ge doesn't want to hear. His nodawa hits all targets in a 500m radius.
if koto loses vs onosato, it's done
76th Yokozuna Aonishiki
>The Ghost of Kiev>The Last Soldier of the Azov Battalion>The Tsar of the Mawashi>The Destroyer of Knees>Diamond Back>Dan the Terrible>Taiho Reincarnated>The True Great White Phoenix>>149943324>SAY!>HIS!>NAME!
cant slap him down, cant slap him out
unbreakable
he's gaining swag with every bout
>>149943405Don't worry, they can still give him, uhhhh
unsurprisingly M8 Ichi didn't have any answers for the Aonishiki question
just give him the rope already.
>>149943425i guess they gave him ichiyamamoto because he had 9 wins. So the next possible opponents are Kotoshoho obviously + 1 - atamifuji or kusano?
>>149943463Yeah they had to because of how silly the yusho race was 2 days ago. They still want some sanyaku to fight each other at the end
>>149943463yeah as much as anything he has to be the roadblock for the other maegashira in the hunt
>>149943457Tamawashi's road to Komusubi is still open. Trust the process.
>murray old man rambling about ticket prices between bouts that dont matter anymore
>>149943497For me it was the Onosato jab
>well if he loses today he's going to join a very exclusive club, being a shin-yokozuna who gave out 4 kinboshi
Do we really need to focus on Kotoshoho drinking some water? Focus on the dohyo, Abema!
goddam that was well fought
Uhhh, Kirishitmasisters. Our response?
Congrats on the Kanto-sho.
>>149943497New batch is getting sold today. Probably shit seats though and undoubtedly still overpriced.
mfw
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>Zak 7-1 Atami
Oh no, not this score...
I urge everyone, in what may be my final days of posting on this site - DO NOT GO TO LONDON. It is a cesspit of despair.
How the fuck.
Atami was never supposed to be this good.
ACK'd again
>>149943620lmao
What's Teru putting on his water?
Love the tomato, hope he can keep it up
>call your deshi retarded and unteachable
>he starts improving
It's as simple as that.
>>149943629Worry not. I did the maths for where I live and it's actually cheaper to go to watch one day of a proper honbasho in Japan than this fraud in London. I would assume it's the same situation for most of Europe. It's really only the Londoners for whom it may make sense and they are suffering enough just being Londoners so may sumo bring them little joy in their miserable lives.
>>149943654Classified information.
4th KINBOSHI lmaooooooo
so aonishiki vs kotoshoho
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
SHAMEFUR
DISPRAY
>>149943648atami is only 22 and already has two JY under his belt, he'll probably be a longtime sanyaku before his career is done
>OUT GOES THE YOKOZUNA, HELLO HELLO
I wish this cunt would commentate every day on NHK
pull out you fucking retard
FREE KINBOSHI!!!
KINBOSHI!!!
FREE KINBOSHI!!!
I've missed the last 6 bouts as I went for a job interview, is Ura injured again? I managed to see him walk off the dohyo before I got called in.
Holy dispenser, I apologize to hosh
hoshoryu please come back
>>149943725He said he was fine briefly to an nhk reporter after, but we'll see
where's the hosh apology form, I uh need it for a friend
>completely decimates sanyaku
>keeps losing to maegashira
How?
Why?
TYD Maegashira owns this basho
>the first shin-zuna to print 4 kinboshi in his debut since 1958
>>149943729>>149943735hosh who is missing because he got shamed the same way and then left claiming he had toe ouchies? That hosh?
Still have 2 more days, I will try to do what I have to and concentrate on my own style of sumo
>>149943746the man who heroically took a hammer to his toe just to prevent the JSA from going bankrupt
Will they face Aonishiki against Kusano tomorrow, and Kotoshoho against some other sanyaku, and on the last day Aonishiki against Kotoshoho?
>>149943746I respect Onosato more just for not withdrawing, desu.
Take the kyujo pill next time my friend.
Post tomorrow's bouts already!!! I'm edging
shitposting aside, if there's any querygods around what's the lowest maegashira rank to earn a kinboshi
can't imagine there's that many times a M15 or worse takes on a 'zuna and wins
good guys ohnosato and hosh providing some pocket money to meageshitters
>>149943778>>149943798he has no injuries, there's no excuse for him to kyujo
>>149943799I think Murray mentioned the previous record was M12
>>149943799>shitposting aside, if there's any querygods around what's the lowest maegashira rank to earn a kinboshiThe lowest rank to secure a kinboshi before was M14w in 1941.
>>149943819jesus christ that's grim
>>149943817toe ouchies count as an injury? almost all of maegashira is running around with taped up toes and that's the reason hosh gave
>>149943821>it's still a new recordthanks leafbro
>>149943821I stand corrected
>>149943799>>149943819>>149943821so basically kotosho is the lowest, although he used to be higher
>>149943805The martyrs of sumo
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>>149943799>what's the lowest maegashira rank to earn a kinboshiM15, as of 30 minutes ago.
It's rare for zunas to ever fight this low, and when they do they only lost twice now
>>149943828i'm not going to argue how bad or easy the injury was, but it was reported before basho he injured his toe... are you a fucking doctor? did you see his injury? it can be whatever.
Embarrassing. Is Kisenosato teaching him the forbidden tech of "How to intai after being promoted to Yokozuna"?
>>149943866This is the perfect image for this situation.
>>149943866>Kisenosato's greatest enemy and rival was Hakuho Sho.>His only weakness was Hakuho>Onosato is Kisenosato's greatest disciple.>Onosato loses to Oho (has Hakuho's "O-" character in his name).>Onosato loses to Hakuoho (literally Hakuho's disciple).>Onosato loses to Tamawashi (has Hakuho's mongolian genetics).>Onosato loses to Kotoshoho (has Hakuho's Sho).Onosato is literally cursed. Hakuho defeated Kisenosato so hard that a curse was placed on him. Onosato is doomed...
>>149943922I will undo the curse. I am going to need a lot of salt.
Day 14
>Aonishiki vs Kusano
>Onosato vs Wakatakakage
>Kirishima vs Kotoshoho
>>149944215imagine atamin and kusano winning tomorrow, while aonishiki and kotosho losing, that would be pretty nice senshuraku
You know, would be pretty funny if Aonishiki kept going 11-4 for the rest of his career
Please have a 4 way tie going into day 15 of Aonishiki, Ataimfuji, Kusano, and Kotoshoho
Some of the guys doing this just seems like big fat guys, while others have actual techniques and skill.
>Kotoshoho wins
>barely any applause from the audience
that was sad, give the guy some credit. But I guess people are just tired of seeing Onosharto lose to Maegashiras this basho.
After watching the Day 12 Highlights I have spent 3 hours in MS Paint to bring you the following.
>>149944364Barely any zabutons were thrown too, I was annoyed because when I was at the basho in May everyone went fucking wild on day 12 when Kirishitma beat Hosh. It seems Yokozunas losing is just a common occurance now, it's expected so it's not exciting
>>149944371Very detailed and accurate, thank you anon
>>149937574Ura's footwork and ring-sense really is unparallelled.
>>149944452It looked like the most zabutons for either yokozuna's losses yet imo. I saw Hosh lose his first zuna bout to Abi and no exaggeration it was less than 10 in the entire arena
>>149944497Maybe I'm remembering sitting in the nosebleeds it was a better view of it all going down.
>Mita v Big China DaiseizanTomorrow looks good. We're eating well tomorrow and hopefully on Sunday too
>>149943848It is telling that he has had 1 injury at ozeki and now already has 2 at yokozuna. Him announcing the toe as a potential injury comes off as a way out if he fucks up, which is exactly what happened. I can understand him fucking up the elbow and not wanting to miss his first tournament at the rank, but it's getting a bit ridiculous at this point.
>>149944215I was wondering if they were gonn send him some more maegashira. Guess not lol.
>>149944452Yea, they threw them the first couple of times, moreso for Onosato than for Hoshoryu, but they just gave up halfway through the tournament in both cases. Just too common of an occurance.
>>149944371Kek.
>>149944794i dont like it either, and neph probably didn't like it as well, he was told it's better to not fight any further by oyakata.. so what would you do
Right now Iโd put the odds at
-200 Aonishiki
+250 kotoshobo
+500 kusano
Iโd say this is a lock for Aonishiki
>>149945820Actually imma bump up the lines to -300 Aonishiki and +300 kotoshoho
kotoshoho will win, the ozeki run into inevitable rope run starts here
There exists a .01% chance bizzaro world where Kusano beats Aonishi tonight, they
both lose tomorrow, Kotosho loses today and tomorrow while avoiding Aonishiki, and some of the 9 wins crowd win the next 2 days leading to a 5 man 11 win yusho playoff. I will always route for the 5 man yusho playoff because man would it be funny.
Onosharto bros whatโs going on. It wasnโt supposed to be like this. Someone is got a sake bottle to the backside when he got back to the stable.
>>149946104I always wonder what this guy in the back would immediately think if he turned around and saw whatever the fuck was going on.
>>149941589There are but its a joke, like anything involving women.
Clown gender
>>149942874>gets deranked to Sandame>has to sit and eat with Keiga, Soma, Kuwae, Soga, and 'yama
>>149946488The terrible thing would be if Nabatame continued eating as he has been (like a pig in a pigsty, even Roga mentions this in a video) without exercising at all because of the surgery and the post-surgery period. He could gain a lot of weight.
Dan would be the third European tournament champion, right?
>>149946583Maybe he'll be the new Kyoda and just cook for the next 8 months
>>149946776of the top of my head there's Kotooshu, Baruto and Tochinoshin already but I guess Georgia is kind of a weird spot geographically
>>149945953He was better than Zak for a little bit when Zakโs knee was messed up but he himself got injured I wished he wouldโve taken time off and heal and fight his way back when he was younger.
>Onosatos raw power
>Ura's ring-sense
>Aonishki's balance
>Kotozakura's tits
You now have the perfect rikishi.
>>149948010>Terunofujis knees>Takerufujis ankles>Takakeishos neck>Ichinojos back>Abis elbows>Asanoyamas dick
anime
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>>149944290Consequent 11-4 with some of them being jun-yusho would probably qualify him for Yokozuna
>>149943629seconding this. even i am not considering it. the dohyo is likely to be sculpted out of the filth the unhousebroken jeets and packs create. london is a turd world dump.
>>149948010>Kotozakura's titsI rather have Dan's tits
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>>149949071Yokozuna dreams cancelled.
>>149946776Its tough to say exactly since the Hawaiians were all mixed blood, Musashimaru is more White than he is Samoan.
I only started watching this year. Has there ever been a period of such bad zunas, when there have actually been any?
>>149949323It's not like he's a stranger to pulling statistics that weren't done before already. Two more wins and he sets another one
>>149949374Also will be the 1st m1e to yusho in the 15 bout era
Unbelievably hyped for Ura versus Manlet tomorrow, even if the outcome seems given.
Will Kotozakura get his ozeki 8-7 curse again?
Anyone know what's up with Zak? Is he just jobbing or is he injured?
>>149949489If Ura goes 10-5 this basho I will be so fucking thrilled
>>149949557Injured, I suspect. He really should have won some of these.
Whoever posted the gyoji in the motosports thread on that webm of the nascar drivers hugging it out, I love you.
>>149943648Teru has been increasing the rate and intensity of his disappointed glares. Atami seems to be responding to the training well.
>>149948010>>149948427>>149948466>>149949279>Aoiyama's tits, but four of them like Kotozakura>Akiseyama's belly>Moriurara's hairline
>>149943648sanyaku was never supposed to be this bad.
>>149944371Why don't you just watch Natto if you can't catch it live? He puts the top 3 divisions up around half an hour after they finish.
>>149948427>Hokutofuji's headache
>>149949906The Sanyaku aren't doing TERRIBLE really. It just feels bad after they threw the joi into a woodchipper last basho. Pretend Oshoma isn't Komusubi and they're just about pulling their weight. Hakkaku must be fawning over a photograph of Daieisho right about now.
>>149949993The ones that are here are doing ok, but not great besides Oshoma obviously. The thing is two of them are kyujo and an 8 man sanyaku isn't that big to start with, so there's not enough consistently strong guys to throw at the up and comers. We thought we were heading into a stronger era after the last basho but we went right back to near shambles.
>>149950049Should be fine for next basho though right?
>Y1e Onosato, Y1w Hoshoryu>O1e Kotozakura>S1e Kirishima, S1w Wakatakakage>K1e Takayasu, K1w Aonishiki
>>149950073If Aonishiki wins out, we will see him at S2w. If he gets 12 wins, they could give him sekiwake as well. Historically they have not opened up an extra sekiwake slot for 11 wins at m1 as much recently. So I think it'll be three sekiwake, K1e Takayasu and K1w would be Abi or Tamawashi.
>>149950160I suppose if you're gonna do it for anyone you should do it for a guy who's been as incredible as Dan thus far. We're actually watching the start of a three basho Ozeki run in real time.
>>149950073>>149950160Takayasu back in Nov 2022 is precedent for 12 wins being enough for a M1e to force a sekiwake overhang. However, he was the first maegashira to force an overhang since 2004.
>>149950226So S2w Aonishiki, K1e Takayasu, K1w probably Abi? Unless Tamawashi leapfrogs him.
>>149950245I think the only scenario where it's likely they'll give it to Tom is if he has 10 or 11 wins and Abi still has 8. If Abi gets his 9th, it probably goes to him no matter what Tom does from here.
>>149950245>>149950364Komusubi is looser than sekiwake. No reason they can't give it to both if Abi has 9+
Am I a fucking idiot or is there typically not supposed to be over 2 Komusubi?
From what I've been looking at historically, there seems to be a larger amount of S2's occuring over K2's; is there a reason why this is the case?
>>149950462might be inflated from ozeki demotions
>>149950409That happening would depend heavily on who makes KK from here to fill M1 and M2 I think. If there's not enough good bodies to fill those spots they wouldn't make another komusubi slot for Tom if Abi can take K1w
>>149950462Komusubi being the bottom of the sanyaku, the good ones become sekiwake and the bad ones get tumbled back down to maegashira. There's a lot more turnover there.
Hot take:
If for some reason Aonishiki had entered this tournament ranked at Yokozuna, as in straight up M9->Y, he wouldn't be doing this well. He got to completely surprise the entire Sanyaku with his style of going for the legs. If he'd been Yokozuna this basho the Sanyaku would've had more time to watch him fight and see how to counteract him before they faced him. On no planet would Hoshoryu have given up his belt so easily if he knew what Dan was capable of beforehand.
>>149950495Hakuho prepped for every single opponent by scouting video tape and getting one of his stable's lower rankers to emulate their fighting style so he could practice against it. Doing this should be the bare minimum for every yokozuna, and every ozeki with serious aspirations for yokozuna.
Hakkaku weighed in on the current state of affairs of this basho.
>"Onosato's sumo is a disaster. He might be tired, but it was a terrible showing. Aonishiki is showing great strength, never letting himself be intimidated by his opponent. Kusano is having a fantastic tournament. I'm sure the Banzuke will be completely different in a year."
>>149950622>Onosato did his own style of sumo and took it one day at a time. Meanwhile, every other rikishi did the same thing. I predict the banzuke will change.Prophetic.
>>149950627Will Aonishiki tell when he wins the yusho he didn't think about it and just took it one day at a time and focused on doing his style of sumo?
>>149950710What if they've been telling the truth all this time and they really were just taking it one day at a time? Meanwhile we've been mocking them...
imagine the anti-Dan sissies gooning to their false hope du jour, Kotoshoho, presently
>omg Kotoshoho plz save me!!!
>Kotoshoho is so awesome!!
>look at all the great wrestlers he beat to get to 11-2:
>Kayo!!! Shishi!!!
>OMG he took on Hidenoumi and won!!! What a stud!!!
>Even 50 year old injured old man Sadanoumi couldn't stop Kotoshoho!!!
and thats after they just got done beating it to Ichiyamamoto yesterday, what a bunch of gay faggot retards lol
what are your sansho predictions ?
my guess is:
Dan - technique + outstanding if he gets the yusho
Tamawashi - fighting spirit
Kusano - fighting spirit
Kotoshoho - fighting + outstanding if he gets the yusho
Ichi - fighting spirit if he gets 10 wins
>>149950495Room temperature take
there are no anti-Dan sissies, quit trying to instigate a flame war
>>149950721I think you're sleeping on Kotoshoho too much. IIRC he was on the same three man college/university sumo team as Onosato. He's been suffering from random injuries for the last better part of a year, going kyujo twice at some point. This basho he's looked powerful as fuck. He made Onosato look about as bad as Dan made Hoshoryu look.
God I can't wait to see Zak holding the flag for him in the yusho car just to complete the humiliation ritual his life has turned into.
>>149950721Holy fucking projection. Can't get enough (you)s hyping up Aonishiki anymore, huh? Now you need to accuse people of what your fap sessions look like, except in reverse.
>Oh Dan, get in real low and uchimuso my ass!Fuck off fag
>>149950710His history in freestyle wrestling no doubt helped him a lot because in freestyle one fall doesn't end a match. In sumo doing 10 practice bouts in a day is a big deal, but in freestyle you might fight through that many takedowns in just a few practice matches so overall you experience the situation of the what would be winning/losing move in sumo a lot more often than you see it in sumo practice.
>>149950741I've changed my predictions since I last posted them.
>Outstanding PerformanceAonishiki (w/ yusho)
Kotoshoho (w/ yusho)
Kusano (w/ yusho)
>TechniqueAonishiki
>Fighting SpiritIchiyamamoto (w/ 11 wins)
Tamawashi (w/ 11 wins)
Fujinokawa (w/ 10 wins)
Kusano (already guaranteed)
Aonishiki
>>149950741Dan sansho sweep
>>149950791Kotoshoho also gets a Kanto-sho because why not
>>149950804He must eat pussy like a starving Ethiopian with lips like that.
>>149950791Surely Kusano gets that award on a JY considering this is his debut.
Kind of interesting that poeople arent shitting on Onosato as much as they were for Hosh even though he's shitting the bed even worse right now.
>>149950882It's like the Gordon Ramsey meme.
>Onosato gives up a kinboshiOh dear, oh dear. Gorgeous.
>Hoshoryu gives up a kinboshiYOU FUCKING DONKEY
>>149950791>No Atamifuji, and no belief in Ura going 10-5Gay list, fix it now
>>149950882I tend to ignore most of that these days.
It's clear that there are a number of people who can only enjoy sports when they can jump on a hate bandwagon.
It's weirder in sumo when there are no clear teams so we get dedicated schizos for and against certain rikishi.
I'm just here for some good sumo man.
>We will never see Onosato V Ichinojo
>>149950882Onosato: double digit wins, undefeated vs sanyaku, pretty much an ozeki level performance at the yokozuna rank, just slightly disappointing
Hosh: losing record, a genuinely terrible performance
the heat is only on Onosato now because Hosh fled the scene of his spaghetti spill so long ago that his embarrassment is now a distant memory while Onosato actually managed to complete the basho without running away in tears
>>149950721Danbros on the other hand have been backing the winner since before day one. Stalwart, confident and faithfully.
>>149951159>It's clear that there are a number of people who can only enjoy sports when they can jump on a hate bandwagon.Anti-Danners summed up
>Oshoma
Does anyone care for him?
>>149951298Conveniently ignored the
>dedicated schizos FORThese posters can be just as bad, I will never forget the kotosexual who quit following sumo when kotozakura bumbled yokozuna.
>>149950882What do you expect? Onosato has been on a 2 year streak of good performances, 4 yushos, strong swift victories and earned his promotion with back to back tournaments, not enough reasons to shit on him so hard. Meanwhile Hoshoryu in the same time has had some mixed performances and a promotion that was debated the moment it was announced, a lot of people think it was undeserved and rushed and so far he has done nothing to prove otherwise. Hoshoryu is a fucking jobber, simple as.
>>149951322>Hoshoryu is a fucking jobber, simple asIt's statements like this that invalidate anything else you posted.
>>149951303His stablemates certainly fucking don't.
>>149951339Onosato yushoes 3 times a year, he is prime yokozuna material, Horseryu gets one every other year, he isn't yokozuna worthy
>>149949374>>149949071A yokozuna run is only considered when starting from ozeki. So: no.
If you're horny for theoreticals, this basho could be the start of his ozeki run.
The absolute soonest he could make/debut at yokozuna is May 2026
>>149951472>Onosato yushoes 3 times a yearthats actually a higher rate of winning than what hakuho put up, hakuho won about 3 of every 8 throughout his career
Dan is already on course for Ozeki. You need an average of 11 per basho and he's already at 11 with two days to go. The kid's fighting spirit and fighting intelligence are fucking insane, Aminishiki struck gold with him.
>>149951745It's a tad disingenuous to take the man's entire career when he clearly dropped off towards the end and won none for the longest time. Hakuho won 20 cups in the space of 28, and that's not even the record which is Asashoryu who pulled 20 in 26. Onosato's numbers aren't close to that rate right now.
>>149951759>comparing Onosato at the start of his career to Hakuho at the peak of his primedisingenuous af
>>149951637I wasn't talking about this basho setting him on the rope watch, I meant that he could return to the comfort of his 11-4 after this one and just eternally coast at ozeki
>>149951793Now thats the good shit
>>149951793Fucking Oddjob in the crowd.
>>149951298>Anti-Danners summed upThe Dan haters all fled from this thread, disappeared, probably went back to Redd*t or Gr*ndr or something. You don't hear a peep from them anymore. They sure were vocal at the beginning of the basho and now they're just gone. Dan's unstoppable power and unparalleled skill utterly vanquished the anti-Dan chuds.
>>149952129People stopped hating Dan because he proved he could beat the Sanyaku. Stop posting you actual piece of shit.
>>149952189https://www.nikkansports.com/m/battle/sumo/news/202507250001328_m.html
>>149952248that seems weird for the chairman to say, but alright, damn.
>>149952329Hakkaku beya's highest ranked wrestler is Kitanowaka and thats despite having a yokozuna and 4 other coaches on the staff. Nihonoseki has a yokozuna and Hakkaku is jelly af and he is due to be retired pretty soon so he can shoot his mouth off as much as he wants without fearing much in the way of repercussions.
>>149952129>Dan's unstoppable power and unparalleled skillHis unparalleled skill is readily apparent, but whats not quite as obvious is that his is also the strongest man in makuuchi. In the most recent Oyakata test of strength video Dan outscored everyone else by a lot. The guy is the total package, an all around superior specimen.
>>149952524He just is nerfed by being 182cm tall. That's smaller than the average makuuchi sekitori.
>>149952524He has still yet to show any way to beat someone like Onosato (on a day he remembered he's a yokozuna). Now luckily for him there aren't many of those rolling around, but still
>>149949913how do i access natto
>>149952458K*senosato was gifted a free Yokozuna. Without Onosato, his highest rikishi would be Shirokuma who's about to crash out of Juryo. Guys like Asahifuji, Kise-oyakata, Oitekaze-oyakata, and Sadogatake-oyakata are the real guys propping up Makuuchi.
https://theforevercove.com/
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>>149950495I would be genuinely surprised if someone in makuuchi didn't do this. Hell, I would be a bit surprised if someone in juryo didn't.
>>149952895You jest, but as far as I remember this guy made his brand by being "smaller" and weaker than other strongmen in static challenges but having great mobility and dynamic strength
>>149952967Too many sekitori are one-dimensional, so even if they did they wouldn't be able to properly deal with an opponent who countered their preferred style.
>>149952967Most Makuuchi oyakata are convinced that fatslapping over and over is the way to victory. In reality you'll never rise above the pack unless you find a different angle.
>>149952524https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8yhKti5xfw
Hoshoryu beats Dan here.
>>149953028I don't get why more rikishi aren't belt fighters. All of the last 8 yokozuna were primarily belt fighters (including Kisenosato and Onosato, they might not have gone for throws but they focused on yorikiri by way of the mawashi) so you'd think people would wise up and think "hmm maybe having belt skills is important"
>>149953028>>149953074The meta changes with the years, the more push focused sumo nowadays is from a variety of factors.
Easier to teach and learn
Basic techniques are most effective
Less prone to injury compared to grappling/throws
Increased average weight of sekitori after the hawaians set a precedent as well.
>>149953149>The meta-Stopped reading there because you're just some dumb /v/ faggot.
>>149953154dont be mean mr bong being mean is bad for you
>>149953036>Hoshoryu beats Dan here.on his 5th try, which means that dan beat him the other 4 times
>>149953161The world needs better discipline. You're a retard who needs putting in their place.
>>149953154Woah, game theory and statistics uses the same vocabulary.
Stop finding something to be mad at every second of your life.
>>149953167im not the guy you responded to i just dont want you to be mean it is not good
>>149953168People who unironically use the word "meta" are mindless golems who understand nothing about what makes someone fundamentally good at anything.
>>149953221Every day I come closer to filtering the british because of rage baiters like that fucker.
>>149953234You think I'm baiting, when in reality you're just young and I understand more than you.
mr bong i will pray for you to not be mean anymore
I'll be honest: all anti-dans, the damned Bolsheviks who oppose the Tsar of the Mawashi, must surrender their weapons within the next few hours and present themselves to the Aonishikist authorities.
Anti-dan attitudes will never again be tolerated in /sumo/.
You have until the makuuchi bouts begin to surrender to the authorities and await trial; those who do not do so after this deadline will be hunted down, arrested, and forced to live out the rest of their days in the Ikazuchi sumo stable/labor camp, preparing chanko and serving as an attendant to Shishi.
May the gods of sumo bless the 76th Yokozuna Aonishiki "The Ghost of Kiev"
- Ajigawa Beya Fan Club Headquarters
>>149953253I've never at any point been mean.
>>149953255The a*nishiki meme dies today
>>149953278You will say his name...
>>149953362I don't even care who wins at this point. The fact that men like Kotoshoho and Kusano are in the yusho race while both yokozunas shit the bed and the san'yaku don't exist makes this one of the clownest clown bashos of the current clown era.
>>149953768>Yokozuna 4 bashos away
>>149953659Dan should have been Komusubi so if he wins its not a clown basho.
>>149953768>You'll be hearing from my lawyers about that torinaoshi!!!
Has Kotoshoho been permainjured and it suddenly got better? I don't fully understand how he's putting on such a performance. He's basically been grabbing people and walking them out except for 'sato who swung a little bit then pushed out. He's not doing anything crazy or technical, mostly just overpowering them or pushing from a good angle.
What the hell will happen if Onosato finishes 9-6 in his debut? Tomorrow he'll fight Wakatakakage, who's one of the rikishi who gives him the most fight. What if Onosato loses?
Even with that loss, I see it as impossible for Onosato to lose to Kotozakura, especially considering the terrible performance he's been doing as an ozeki. But what if Onosato does something stupid like "advancing backward," as he's done in several bouts this basho?
Is 9-6 too bad for a yokozuna? And in his debut?
>>149953823It's a total clown basho and you know it. In a sane world the cream of sumo's crop wouldn't be acting like a deer in the headlights when confronted with basic freestyle wrestling techniques. Aonishiki is a good enough fighter but he's undersized and green, and has no business running roughshod over the banzuke in the way that he's been doing. It makes the entire sport look like a joke - put the useless fat cunts on a diet and retrain them for judo. Clown basho.
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>>149953931>Has Kotoshoho been permainjured and it suddenly got better?thats pretty much it, he is a mid-maegashira guy who got injured and sagged down to the bottom of the division then got healthy and had an easy time cleaning up fighting the midgets down there. he did the same thing a couple years ago and got a JY at m13
>>149953952It wouldn't change much, people will chalk it up to the post-milestone slump he's had his whole career. It would take a minor miracle for Onosato to not get at least 10 here anyway (or severe retardation).
>>149953979>he's undersized strongest man in the division and his height isn't too far below average
>and greenhas been winning consistently in competitive wrestling for nearly a decade, if he'd have been born japanese he would've been a tsukedashi case on par with onosato or endo
>>149952929Nice try Abema...
>>149953074>I don't get why more rikishi aren't belt fighters.Who are the oshi guys in the top ranks? Abi, Ichy, Tamawashi, and? Most of them are belt fighters.
>>149953154Yes grandpa I know video games make you dumb.
>>149953659>>149953979Ok we can agree on this at least.
>>149953234>filtering the britishLike the leaf posters, I see the bong flag, I skip it. They're pure cancer.
Odds for today's action. Abi & Takayasu look like the smart money bets
>>149953952>Is 9-6 too bad for a yokozuna? And in his debut?while 10-5 is the unwritten standard "yokozuna KK", he'll get cut some slack for his first basho. IF, however, this level of performance becomes the norm, then he'll start getting pressure to retire.
>>149955081I don't know, I think Hakuoho is at least even with Abi here and might be favored. Despite 8 wins, Abi hasn't been in great form and Hakuoho is pretty good at sticking at people like glue.
>>149954990Daieisho, Oshoma, Oho, Gonoyama. You could debatably add Aonishiki as he's been shifting towards using oshi-zumo more frequently ever since he became a sekitori, which is reflected through more of his recent wins coming from oshidashi.
>>149955157To me oshi sumo is more guys like Daieisho, Gonoyama, and Takakeisho. Once these guys fail to push you out its over for them and they don't work the belt at all.
>>149955876Takakeisho has some of the craziest belt throws you'll ever see: with his ridiculously small arm compared to his body, pivoting his opponent; his body practically served as an anchor for the throws, but again, his arms were too small, and to do something like that he needed to have the opponent very close, reach his mawashi, not have his opponent break his grip, and not have his opponent in a better position. In other words, the exact opposite of his sumo style, but when the miraculous opportunity arose, Takakeisho opted for the mawashi.
i would beat the shit out of a faggot sumo..dumb fat retards wouldn't know what hit them
>>149955952Be careful when you go to sleep tonight, you might feel a powerful claw on your neck: it will be Abi doing a nodowa on you and his demonic, furious face in the darkness will be the last thing you see...
https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202507260000313.html
Ura kyujo
>>149955876>Once these guys fail to push you out its over for them and they don't work the belt at all.Fair enough. That really only limits it to Abi, Gonoyama, and Daieisho right now; a lot of the other pusher-thrusters can semi-competently fight on the belt which is reflected by a sizable number of yorikiri wins.
>>149956227I thought he might have been hurt after that fall with the way he got up. I watched the natto highlights so I didn't see if he hobbled back onto the dohyo or not.
>>149956227>Ura kyujoNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
its urover, if those knee braces were any bigger they'd be stilts, if those monstrous contraptions can't hold the guy together then nothing can
>bushozan 4-3 with a fusen win at Sd2
Not exactly a stunning return for the meatball manlet.
I can hear them panting in this fight.
MK for Ikazuchigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQeezCdF4mk
>>149951865My apologies. You're Polish, so I just assumed that you're retarded.
>>149951435What's the story on that? I missed it
Why even bother with such a risky move at the tawara? Now he needs to win his next match or he will get relegated to makushita.
>>149957933let's celebrate back to juryou promotion with a few whores
>>149957933It's not even 7am and I feel like celebrating with some tasty umeshu
what's the strategy at the start of the match with some rikishi waiting, others putting fists down first, or one on one off?
It seems like a lot of guys start without bringing that last hand down all the way am I just seeing things or is there some leeway?
>>149957969i personally hate those guys, like dude is 1-5 but keeps breathing and meditating or whateverthefuck before he actually puts his hands down. I like Mita so much because he doesnt fuck around, puts both his hands down immediately.
>>149953979Aonishiki is almost exactly the same height and weight Asashoryu was in his prime.
You know nothing about sumo, you ignorant tea nigger.
>>149957969mind games, both wrestlers are supposed to get both of their hands down prior to the charge but as long as they're synced up properly the gyoji will generally let it go (the both hands down thing is relatively recent, if you watch bouts from back in the day it was mainly a sync thing)
https://1xlite-640064.top/ko?tag=d_3287815m_1236c_
>>149958023I'm not opening that link, Kasugao.
uuuuh daiseizan sisters?????
Mita? I don't know any Mita, I only know MIYABIYAMA II
so what exactly is the difference between what Mita did and a henka? where's the line? not meeting at the tachiai?
>>149958069When you know you'll know, until you figure it out you'll ask questions.
>>149953768its funny because its true
>>149958069>If you do henka and look like a useless coward>Then it's henka>If you do henka and look like you have an IQ of 500>Then it's NOT henka
>>149958069It's literally just based off of vibes
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On my way to intai
I am going to sleep and when I wake up Kotoshoho better have lost and Aonishiki better have won
>>149958211The first thing you will say when you wake up will be his name, because he is the way, the door and the verb.
>>149958211Ok I will give you another (you) when Kotoshoho inevitably wins
>>149956009They really need to dim the audience lights and bring back sideburns.
>>149958195why do they look like white women
I wish onosato could've won.
>ura injured
fuck this gay earth
week 2 mitakeumi sure is something
>Shishi bout
It's time for KINO
>>149958596Two more weeks
>>149958596aborted - accidental victory achieved
The manlet will remain safe
tfw every bout so far except Shishi's went the way of the shorter man according to official heights (with Shodai/Roga tied)
Ichiyamamoto is out of gas
is tamawashi back to komusubi after 10 years, at 40? holy hell
>>149958703It's now time to hype up the Tamawashi ozeki run.
Where can I find footage of this?
>kusano's autismal fidgeting
KUSANOOOOOOOOOOO holy hell
Aonishiki yusho, whatever happened there...
OH MY FUCK! Kusano only know one thing, and that's yushos!
Aonishiki "11 and 4 is what I'm going for" Arata
THE YUSHO RACE? DERAILED WITH NO SURVIVORS.
the aonishiki meme is DEAD
Aonishikibros, emergency meeting on discord!
WTF IS THIS?!
Spainanon is suddenly very quiet
>>149958841Just keeping the Basho entertaining. 4 way tie going into tomorrow after Atami wins and Kotoshoho loses
>>149958783search for hatsu 2024 makushita day 11, there is a full 1080p video on dailymotion
>>149958841oh no no no, the mod of the Dancord locked everyone out and is threatening suicide in DMs...
Damnit Aonishki you were so close!
Interesting Aonishiki looks like he deviated from his usual style
>>149958864Gotta stick to your own brand of sumo
NOW DO YOUR FUCKING JOB, YOU FATFUCK!
>>14995883311-4, fighting spirit prize, every basho, forever, for the rest of your life
Kusano...the destroyer of aonishiki...
>>149958873KEK. No gay greentext today
What the fuck even is this basho
>>149946000Uhhh guys? Should I be getting excited?
They haven't done anything layout wise to fix this new arena.