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>>149942966 (OP)
>Percy Butler.
Who? I swear I don't recognize anyone on this team

>kiwicuck actually got mugged
kek what a bitch

ITS THE REAL NIGGAH HOURS

Mahomes > Brady

More TDs
More Wins
More Yards
More MVPs
More Accuracy
More Superbowls
More Passer Rating

I think 2009 is an extremely interesting case study for raw stats and raw EPA vs this improved defense adjusted EPA.
If you just look at numbers, Brady went from 50 TDs 8 INTs in 2007 with a 117 rating, to 28 TDs (7th), 13 INTs with a 96 rating (9th) in 2009. Boxscorecels would look at this and think Tom regressed or that he had merely an "okay" season.
Naked EPA, in contrast, thinks Brady had a great season, giving him the 4th highest behind Rivers, Peyton, and Brees.
However my adj EPA also takes into account the pass defenses he faced. Brady faced one of the strongest pass defense gauntlets in NFL history.
If we look at the defenses faced by EPA, Brady played the top 8 EPA pass defenses 8 times, including the 4 best 6 times, and the 2 best 4 times (Jets, Bills). Comparatively Peyton and Brees played the 8 best defenses a combined 8 times.
When this is taken into account, Brady's adj-EPA/play jumps to 1st in the league.

>>149942966 (OP)
>Andrew Berry calling someone not smart

Lol plonked

>>149943054
Here is the teams played that season. Blue = Brady, yellow = Brees, Orange = Peyton. Circles mean they played that team that year
Teams on the right have better pass defenses.

>>149942843
>>149943067

>>149943026
>filename
kek
very good, anon

>>149942966 (OP)
Dubs and the Seahawks will beat the Bills in Superb Owl 60.
Here's what will happen chat:
0. Get in playoffs as Wild Card
1. Seahawks over Eagles
2. Seahawks over Redskins
3. Seahawks over 49'ers in Santa Clara AKA site of Superb Owl 60 meaning,
4. Seahawks over Bills

>>149943026
None of that is true.

>>149943093
dubs and the seahawks finish bottom of the division lmao
>sam darnold

>>149943093
dubs and the Rams win the West

>>149943117
Seahawks will win the division after Sam Darnold the GEQBUS unveils his big beautiful passing attack. He has the best passing, many are saying. He has the best passing and he's really going to go all the way. Brock Purdy is fake news, Stafford we like to call him Sleepy Stafford, he's old. Kyler Murray, we like Kyler Murray, but he's no Sam Darnold.

>>149943093
Darnold isn't HIM it's that simple. Jalen Milroe will take over by November. That might be too late to save the season thoughbeit

>>149943076
Thank you anon.

>>149943149
Milroe needs a year in the tank

>>149943152
Actual advice would be start doing stuff.
Go to the gym. If you're too socially anxious to do that, work out at home. Start asap. Buy a pull up system. Start a regular calisthenics routine and get jacked. Strength and muscle building should eventually start to feel good, plus since you won't quit, it will eventually give you a nice physique with which will help with confidence. It also increases testosterone.
Basic shit like make your bed in the morning. Get good sleep. Eat well.
Get some skills and get a job. Maybe join a boxing or MMA gym.
All of this might be too much at once, so it's okay to start slow. Start by cutting the alcohol and starting regular exercises. But you have to start.

I could really go for a warm and gooey chocolate chip cookie right about now.

>>149943195
I simply don't believe that. He's incredibly intelligent and intelligent people learn quick. NFL level coaching to sort his lower body mechanics and help him identify pre snap blitzes+coverage. Those are the two areas he needs to work on. The rest of his game is polished enough to start in the league. I don't buy the developmental QB talk. He's high floor and unbelievably high ceiling

>dick pinkstink

Preseason starts in 6 days, on the last day of July

O-H-I-O

>>149943215
he needs to prove he won't turn over the rock

>>149943215
>He's incredibly intelligent
I'm very curious. How do you, who is the opposite of intelligent and a person who will never understand what being intelligent is like, determine that he is very intelligent? Some dude you think is smart told you so?

>>149943215
Milroe has upside but he is a fucking retard
t. bama watcher

>>149943215
He's a good kid but I wouldn't say he's football intelligent. And he's nowhere near ready to start regular season games.

>>149943223
The fumbles were an issue in 24 not really 23. I'm not concerned about the picks I don't think he's particularly prone to them. You see the level of throws he can make

>>149943247
I watch interviews and press conferences for each player I evaluate. I think it's an immensely underrated part of the process. You can tell by the language someone uses, how they enunciate and how confidently they carry themselves if they're intelligent or not. I don't want to use him as an example but listen to Jalen Milroe speak at his combine presser then go listen to Omarion Hampton at his combine presser. Tell me what you think is actually be interested to read what you observe without my take

>>149943261
>>149943278
If you say so. I'll still be here over the next few years and if I'm wrong I'll take the L same as if Bo Nix regresses or any other player I was high on

>>149943283
>I watch interviews and press conferences and I think he is extremely intelligent
Lol well that's embarrassing for you, but props to admitting that
But yeah, so would you also recommend that people watch interviews and press conferences of the candidates of elections they are voting in? Is that very intelligent to you?

>>149943283
>I watch interviews and press conferences for each player I evaluate. I think it's an immensely underrated part of the process. You can tell by the language someone uses, how they enunciate and how confidently they carry themselves if they're intelligent or not.
i don't have an opinion on milroe but this is very true, it's a big reason why i liked tyler smith so much while lots of retards derided that pick at the time

color coding the peak consecutive years by Adj-EPA/play

>>149943314
I haven't voted in the last two elections lol I don't give a fuck about my government after what they all did to the country during covid. Anyway comparing politicians to NFL players is false equivalence. Politicians will often recite statistics and talking points extensively before debates and steer questions asked towards those points regardless of the actual question asked. Players can't really do the same even with help preparing from agents because when you're getting questioned by a bunch of different reporters off the cuff no pre planned talking points are gonna save you if they don't relate to the question asked. You can tell when somebody is being disingenuous or trying to change the subject

>>149943317
Nice one. It's rare you'll see a truly bad interview/answer but when you hear someone like Nic Scourton (late riser for me in this draft class) talk about rush plans his demeanor completely shifts. Kid in a candy store type deal. I love that personally but again evaluation is never an exact science

>>149943364
I read your rambling but didn't see anything of value. With intelligence, one of the top QBs in last couple drafts scored way lower than everyone else on that new advanced intelligence test teams are using instead of the Wonderlific....the S2 cognitive test
>“The test itself involves quickly identifying shapes and patterns and at no point is anyone answering questions. It’s about vision, reaction time, and spatial awareness, and in that sense, is closer to a physical drill than a test.”

New test, highly recommended and praised, etc. So when he was the only top prospect to bomb it there was >doubt

Of course the press asked him about his poor test scores and his response was something along the lines of 'I'm not a test taker, I play football'

And it's true that people might be completely unintelligent in interviews, pressers, tests and everything else, but they are still good at what they are good at

You might have an auto mechanic, hair dresser, or whatever, look like a total retard in all their interviews, pressers, tests etc, but when it comes to fixing cars, or styling hair, etc, they are just good at, that kind of stuff happens all the time

As for Milroe, I don't even care if he's a good QB or not, Hawks drafted him because worse case you got a Taysom Hill, and the guy running the Seahawks offense is the guy that was running the Saints offense last year

>>149943518
Yea no shit Wonderlic and S2 cognition tests were always dumb. I literally pointed this out in 2022 when people were shitting on CJ Stroud saying he was retarded for scoring the lowest in the class. You're the one bringing up tests when all I've talked about is listening to them in interviews and pressers which is the definition of a strawman argument. Don't reply to me again spazz

>>149943555
Yes I brought up CJ Strouds test
Then you bring up CJ Strouds test
Then you say it's dumb to bring up tests
So you're calling yourself dumb, which is the first path to you seeing your first ray of intelligence

Congrats. This is a momental moment step in your development
>Don't blow it on getting all pissed bc you've been looked at as dumb by everyone your whole life

You dumb mutt I refuted your point about those tests I hadn't mentioned anything about Wonderlic or S2 cognition tests once before YOU did. You equated those tests with intelligence when all I had mentioned was interviews/press conferences. Autistic fuckwit

>>149943670
I know this is extremely difficult for you with the one cylinder your barely functioning brain is working on, but I also said:

You might have an auto mechanic, hair dresser, or whatever, look like a total retard in all their interviews and pressers but when it comes to fixing cars, or styling hair, etc, they are just good at, that kind of stuff happens all the time

Right? You think you're intelligent right? So how did you miss that? I mean all these people that have told you how dumb you are your whole life, they also expect that you can read at a fictional level right? You could probably thought you mastered that back when you were age 7?

You can't admit you're wrong and you can't admit you used a strawman fallacy. Keep coping spazz

>>149943766
>fictional
Functional
But this problem you have with reading, and picking out basic concepts (like he responded to what I was saying while also adding something new but I get confused and only can only see one because my brain can't handle two processes and now I'm upset)
..
This isn't stuff you see from people who reasonably show signs of intelligence, right?

you will forever be stuck in being dumb as fuck until you learn to realize you're dumb. You can't even begin the journey to dumb to intelligent if you can't see how dumb you are

As for why you can't see how dumb you are, why you refuse, why it angers you... This happens to people that get called dumb their whole lives

Because they've been called dumb their r whole life, it's painful for them to look at themselves as dumb, which is the only way to progress to intelligence, so they stay stuck forever dumb..that's your life. But it doesn't have to be. You can grow

Jalen Milroe is not a great quarterback.

>>149944016
YES HE IS!

>>149944016
and there it is

>>149944016
Milroebros, our response?

Is the NFL ready for two top QBs that are
Both Jalens from Houston
Both former Bama QBs under the legendary Saban Dynasty
Both black enough to be happily included in the most vicious of the black gangs
But just one playing on a superteam?

>>149944129
I'm not a college ball expert but isnt 16 TD to 11 interceptions really bad for a college QB? Especially for a guy in his 4th year.

>>149944242
its almost as good as anthony richardsons final year of 17-9

Those roofuckers in the AFL can't catch for shit.

I will bump this thread for you guys
Good morning America :)

>>149945801
>Maholmes behind Poo Pees
Uh oh, he's not gonna like this.

>>149945801
NOOOOOO MAHOMES IS NOT REGRESSING OVER TIME!! HE'S ONLY GOING TO GET BETTER!

>football is back
>Gundam Wing is back
GET HYPED!!!

>>149946172
Yeah you probably like Mariemaia.

>watches tranime when underage track season is over
lel

>>149946423
>>149946429
Do you imagine you're a 17 year old girl and I am looking for some physical activity?

>>149945801
This is what it looks like if we look at aEPA/game.
Note this underrates Peyton slightly because he had the habit of playing one or two drives in the final game or two of the season then sitting out, since his team had more often than not already locked a top seed. I think he would jump up one or two spots for some of those.

>>149944129
hurts is weathered and refined now, milroe is still a hot mess like dread era tide hurts

I miss the days when NFL players would post in these threads

>>149944129
Based Milroe head

>>149944242
>stats nigger
I don't care about stats but I spent 4 minutes or so making this just for (You) lil bro. Top is Milroe bottom is Josh Allen
>inb4 muh great Alabama team
Their skill position talent outside of Ryan Williams was dogshit and he played a far better opposition
>inb4 what about rushing stats
Milroe completely mogs him there in terms of total yards and TDs

>>149945801
>>149946752
If you're going to post meaningless arbitrary cherry picked data that looks like something a pants on head retard would come with, at least post a link so other people can do their own bullshit to add to your garbage

>>149946987
It's not really a link. I'm using NFL play-by-play data since 1999 that is published here
https://github.com/nflverse/nflverse-data/releases/tag/pbp
Then working with that data in jupyter using python, with Pandas, matplotlib, numpy.
There's something called nflfastR, which is a R library to do stuff with this data.
https://www.nflfastr.com/articles/field_descriptions.html
https://www.nflfastr.com/articles/nflfastR.html
I'm just using python because I'm more comfortable with it.
If there's something you'd like to see, e.g. a given QBs career, the rankings for a given season, a graph like pic rel, I can do that

>>149947105
Post a link to something not retarded is what i am asking. For example

Adj EPA/play
aEPA/game

What was that for last season alone?

Press F

>>149947105
based on that, Mahomes and Manning are the two that achieved greatness and heights unmatched by anyone

>>149942966 (OP)

>>149943026

Brady >>>>>>>>> The Mutt

Less TDs
Less Wins
Less Yards
Less MVPs
Less Accuracy
Less Superbowls
Less Passer Rating

>>149947189
Adj. EPA was what I was calling it, but some people might get that mixed up with the Adj. EPA/play here for QBs
https://rbsdm.com/stats/stats/
Which pretty much just removes fumbles on completed passes as a penalty to the QB.
So now I've been calling it aEPA.
Here is last season's

>>149943064
>trade franchise away
>get contract extension
how the fuck does he do it

>>149947267
Yeah, those are the highest aEPA/game seasons.
Here is the one for aEPA/play

>>149947346
>Love 5th
les gooooo

>>149947390
Where's your pre-preseason rankings?

>>149947346
>goof
doubt.jpg

>>149947353
You really have no idea what it was for last year? I'd feel like complete retard for not starting with that since that is the year most fresh and relevant in all of our heads

>>149947346
I'm going to stop doing QBs soon, and will look at total teams and team units. That will be cool.
>>149947416
The problem with any statistic is that what we really mean when we say "Goof had a aEPA/play of 0.338" is that "on dropbacks with Goof as the QB, the Lions produced 0.338 aEPA/play".
Also Goof is pretty good.

>>149947105
>>149947353
Brees sucked his last several seasons after his arm went out, so your data there is all backwards. Only thing even keeping the Saints alive with washed Brees was their D. So if your stats are rewarding D, then no shit it rewards Brady, as he's the biggest D baby in NFL history and that the NFL will ever see

>>149947349
My only guess is because he hired Stefanski (who I do think is a good coach) and they've made the playoffs twice in the last 5 years (after not making them in 15+ years) he's getting a mulligan on the Deshaun Watson deal. The Haslams have blown up the front office 4 times before hiring him they clearly want to make this current regime work

>>149947390
>Sneak is back
Very based ngl how you been nigger?

>>149947486
u were mugged?

>>149947425
It's right here man>>149947346
Here it is again, but with aEPA/game, and ordered by that

>>149947474
The stats don't include anything other than play on the field.

>>149947604
your stats are all backwards compared to how they played on the field, why dont you try using actual data instead of retard shit?

>>149947445
>Also Goof is pretty good.
Sure, he's top 10. But yeah, he was set up well to succeed in that offense.

>>149947637
This is actual data. It's EPA, but with me adding a defensive adjustment that takes into account both pass and rush offensive/defensive EPA.
Brees was shot last season in the sense he couldn't throw deep. He still had an elite supporting cast and an elite mind to go with it. Here's the 2020 stuff
Note I'm not saying it's gospel, like I said here>>149947445
>The problem with any statistic is that what we really mean when we say "Goof had a aEPA/play of 0.338" is that "on dropbacks with Goof as the QB, the Lions produced 0.338 aEPA/play".

>Raiders releasing Christian Wilkins one year after signing him to $110 million contract amid injury drama
https://nypost.com/2025/07/24/sports/raiders-releasing-christian-wilkins-one-year-110-million-contract/

Would you live with 15 mln a year in Minnesota or 12.5 in new York?

>>149947474
>>149947637
Brees had bad stats traditional stats his first two years as a starter (even or negative TD/int ratio, much lower passing yards and TDs than later in his career, sub-80 passer rating) so I'm not surprised the EPA stats look like that.

>>149947740
>12.5 in new York
Ez.

>>149947706
>EPA
By actual data, i mean use the same raw data that EPA is retardedly cramming into some retarded formula for retards too lazy (or stupid and uneducated in your case) to use their own brains to analysis the raw data

Get back to us when you want to use your brain to discuss raw data and not retard shit that makes all dumber

travisbros...

>>149947740
Assuming you mean NYC, personally I'd choose NYC (though I'd choose other cities over NYC). But if you like the rural/nature vibe I could see wanting Minn.

>>149947777
By raw data do you mean box score like passing yards, points, touch downs, ints, fumbles etc.?

>>149947474
Brees' highest career passer rating was his third-to-last season. His last 3 were all above 105. I know passer rating isn't perfect but it's hard to have one that high if you suck.

>>149947777
>raw data that EPA is retardedly cramming into some retarded formula
EPA is based on charting, not counting stats

>>149947517
Yea nearly 8 years ago. They didn't have knives or guns that I saw but I took like 5-10 decent punches to the face which broke my orbital bone. Shit happens

>>149947785
>pussy facing the world
Lol stinky

>>149947785
This shit is always so cringe, mostly just because so many people take it seriously.

>>149947953
Were they Maoris or Abos?

Coach Sanders

>>149948017
Brave

>>149947953
makes sense ur a neet who mugs a neet?

>>149947973
It was in New Orleans. They weren't black think maybe spics but couldn't really give a description

>>149947825
>though I'd choose other cities over NYC)
Which ones?

I don't know much about USA, but Newport and some small cities not far from LA and Charleston look most cosy imo. Also Boston.
But speaking of nature, I like the northern California where mountains and oceans and desert are all like a day-away drive max, and Minnesota/Dakotas/Wyoming/Montana place, where was prairies with big mountains on background.

>>149948041
doubt

>>149948116
>vast prairies

>>149947833
first you start with games played each season right? Comparing a guy that played 4 games to a guy that played 17 is dumb right? Then you look at each individual game that season (did a guy have 8 good games all against weak opponents but sucked against everyone else? etc). By raw data, what I mostly mean is pulling up everything and using your brain to go over it all

A site for that is
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/

For individual games, go to game logs on top right of each player's page. That will help refresh your memory of what you saw on the field when you were watching those games at the time

with data it, as you can see, shows you a ton of raw data for you to use your own brain to analysis instead of cookie cutter equation like EPA that just make you and everyone dumber

go start learning, this will an exciting adventure for you, learning the game of American football

Oh but if you havent watched the games that youre using the data to refresh your memory on, then go watch the games. If you haven't watched all the games first then you shouldn't be doing analysis... plus the most fun thing is watching games right?

anyone else excited for a full michael penis jr season

>>149948217
He's a little bit of a coward. When he's nervous he puts his head in a box

>>149948217
Falcons needed more juice on offence for him imo. I actually like Walker, Pearce, Watts and Bowman who they took with their first 4 picks but I feel like they needed a better WR2 opposite Drake London. He can sling it but his accuracy was all over the place in those 3 starts

>>149948154
Yeah I use pfr all the time.
I enjoy watching NFL. Right now I'm watching Netflix's Quarterback show, and reading a football book.
But everyone naturally wants to know who the best QB is, and short of having infinite time and being having pro-level football knowledge and doing my own PFF-style grade for some large enough sample of QB games etc., best I can do is combine what I do know with some statistics. I use EPA because it's really good, and better than the box score.

>>149948116
NYC is cool to visit for a day or two but I wouldn't want to live there. Not saying other don't love it, obviously. A shit ton of people choose to live there. Just not for me.
I live in Philadelphia and I love it. Small enough that it's easy to get around, but big enough that there's plenty of neighborhoods and things to do. Cleaner that NY, and has nice green spaces (tons on small parks everywhere). The people are friendly and happy to help out as long as you're not an asshole. The vibe is more authentic than places like NYC, people aren't pretentious or trying to play a role.
I like Boston a lot as a city. It's very pretty and also a good size. The people there don't really deserve it though. The most racist and obnoxious people in the northeast.
I haven't spent a ton of time there but the few times I've been to Chicago I've loved it. Esthetically nice, and lots of culture and food and stuff.

The stumble bum is one of the greatest trick plays of all time
I hope we get to see more stupid shit for the burrs or lions this season

>>149948294
>Quarterback show
I'm surprised how much of a dumb jock Joey B isn't
Goof is my guy but he's def a jock and his wife a classic rich bimbo (both seem nice enough tho)
Joey B is out there practicing piano and chatting chicks up at practice about getting to go behind the scenes at the nat history museum lel
And Cousins is the biggest, most earnest dork in the NFL

>>149948414
first burrs play of the year will either be a trick play or a 3 yard run by Swift

>>149948462
I'm in S1. I like Cousins the most.

>>149948294
best QB was probably Johnny Unitas. He redefined the position on level nobody else has. Otto Graham probably has the most impressive resume of the dynasty QBs that landed on great teams. With best QB ever, that's something only a retard thinks about. Each era of football was different, and each era got easier and easier and easier for QBs. So the more modern a QB is, the easier he had it

Joe Montana and Dan Marino each had like 16 surgeries because they didn't protect the QB like they did for Brady (the way they protected Brady was embarrassing to the game of football)

Had Brady played back when Montana and Marino played, he'd have 16 surgeries too and a much shorter career (and had Brady not made it to his late 30s, which he wouldn't have, his career wouldn't have been impressive, he'd have just those 3 early Super Bowl where he was a baby QB getting clearly carried on 2 of those 3 (Skip says all 3) then just epic choking the rest of his career.

but it's not just the QBs of previous areas were dealing with a lot more physical abuse on the field, they played with rules that made it much more difficult on the QB

Just one example: your WRs would go run their routes, and the DBs could just knock them off their routes at will

They played in the hard mode era

Brady was easy mode era

That's why comparing players from different eras is only something a retard would do

>>149947406
soon....

>>149947486
been good brah

What do we think of the current 2025 KWABOTY shortlist??

>>149937014
>>149937014

>>149948556
>Career wouldn't be impressive
>only three owl wins
>three owl wins isn't impressive
I agree with a lot of what you said, but that statement is completely retarded

>>149948578
Nico

>>149948582
Because Brady wasn't impressive in at least 2 of 3 of those Super Bowl runs. I mean he was more impressive than then water boy but that isn't saying much

Those first 3 SBs by Brady were pretty meaningless at Brady did little to earn them

If you want to say Brady's career still would have been impressive had he had to retire in his early 30s, I agree with you, but those 3 SBs were not

>fudge packers
Kek wtf is this shit?

>>149948266
>>149948289
I was really impressed with his throws i actually think his team mates let him down pretty often he probably shouldve looked even better

Still he looked way to slow for a black qb

>>149948622
Dude being the starting QB for three owl wins is impressive no matter how badly you don't want it to be

>>149948578
NFL KWABOTY should be Jerry Jones or John Mara/Joe Schoen

>>149948556
Montana wasn't durable relative to his era. Brady was an iron-man this era. It's pretty silly to suggest Brady would definitely be less durable than Joe.
And if Brady's career ended at the same age as Montana, he'd be a a 4x SB champ, 3x SB MVP, 2x MVP, first 50 TD season, first unanimous MVP, 11 pro bowls etc. 6 conference titles, 9 appearances etc.

>>149948647
>we have notre dame at home

>>149948686
Those are the numbers if he retired 1 season earlier than Joe (age wise), my bad.

>>149948597
Maybe if Luka had played better in the playoffs and Adam Silver hadn't gifted the Mavs the No.1 overall pick. It was still a retarded trade but looks better now

>>149948648
>Still he looked way to slow for a black qb

There's a reason for that. He's torn his right ACL twice and had a bunch of other injuries in college. Pic related

>>149948647
copying my illini

>>149948654
If you're retard, then sure. I have friends that are retarded, like my friend Jason. Dumbest person you'll ever meet, he's self aware of it, doesn't try to pretend to be otherwise, he had other strengths that make him a good frined

But he and my friend that doesnt watch football are only two friends I've ever had that would agree with this:

>Dude being the starting QB for three owl wins is impressive no matter how badly you don't want it to be

>>149948731
As an IU alumni, it's wild to think an IU QB is starting caliber in the NFL, but I genuinely think Penis can be good for a couple of seasons until his body finally lets him down for good

>>149948731
Damn i had no idea what a risk to draft him then

>>149948622

>>149948752
You sound mad that your friends are smarter than you

>>149948812
Yeah he honestly has a very high ceiling but he is shattered glass held together with Elmer's glue

>>149947474
Brees was only really bad by his standards his last year and even then he was pretty good until the playoffs.

>>149948792
Yea I'm not saying Penix is definitely cooked but drafting him at pick 8 was way too rich imo I thought he was a 3rd rounder

>>149948812
His best tape was really fucking good but yea extensive injuries and even left the natty championship game against Michigan for a series after getting banged up iirc

>>149948976
What the fuck did she make him do to his hair? Kek

>>149948945
Without his injuries I think low first round would've been fine desu, or high second round

>>149946836
I'm an NFL player, wassup sweetie

Oh, me? Just thinkin about them kangz

>>149948976
shes definitely put at least 3 different objects up his ass

>>149949013
Hopefully at least one of those was one of her feet

>>149949004
>>149948976
X T R A Z E S T

Im out of the loop bros, who are the most exciting rookies for this season?

im pretty sure last season had way more hype for the rookies than this one

>>149948945
I liked what I saw from Penis when I saw him play last year. I am indeed worried about his ability to stay healthy though.

>>149948976
Why do you suppose they’re not married yet?

>>149949065
Not Ward

>>149949003
Falcons clearly were nervous with how many teams needed QBs. Can't change it now anyway he'll either hit or miss. They have a decent O line of vets and high picks. They're gonna be relying almost entirely on two rookies for their pass rush which is a massive ref flag. I wouldn't buy any stock in the 2025 Falcons personally

>>149949093
I honestly believe they got engaged last year

>>149948996
She never dated a black man so she probbaly didnt like the wigger thing

>>149946975
Oh okay you're right, if Josh Allen learned to throw then that obviously cancels out all the ones who didn't.

>>149948414
I don't care about trick plays. I want to see a potent high level offense. Who gives a fuck about trick plays? I want GODleb to ascend become a top QB.

>>149949065
Lions second rounder gonna make sure the lions online stays elite

>>149949195
is he online shitposting the loins are elite right now?

>>149949065
Travis Hunter by a mile WR for the Jags maybe will play some CB too. After him I'd keep an eye on Harold Fannin Jr TE for the Browns and Nic Scourton DE for the Panthers. I'm way high on both

>>149949179
>Not caring about slick trick plays that get tds
Idiot

>>149949195
based i know he not playing around when lynyrd skynyrd is ont he aux

>sack picksix

>>149949210
>maybe will play some CB
In college, sure. Doesn't work that way in the NFL. For example Pat Surtain on the Broncos has been begging to play both sides but it's just never happening.

>>149949210
>black TE

>>149949065
>CB/WR Travis Hunter
>QB Cam Ward
>EDGE Abdul Carter
>RB Ashton Jeanty
Those are the main ones

>he’s not going to spectate (his) teams training camp
ngmi, fraid so…

>>149949211
Sorry but getting Caleb and the rest of the offense executing at a high level is just so much more important. Think of it this way: Ben Johnson has said that he won't do trick plays if the offense can't get the basics right, so you should be invested in them executing because if they do, then you'll see trick plays.

>>149948833
Friends that are smarter than me are a blessing, is it that not common sense to you? That indicates you don't have any common sense

What's the most important thing to study and be smart at in a capitalistic society? Business, economics, finance

For that I nominate my friend J who is already has it set up where his kid gets 20 million in trust when she turns 18. She's only in grammar school and he's already taking her on college visits each summer

How did he make all that money on his own? He's great at finance, economics, business etc and spent a lot of time and studying to get that way. The way you dork it up about football he dorks it up about business. Went to MBA school sure but this guy reads ever book on every good businessman for fun, who does that?

He and I have run two successful businesses together we made a lot of money on when we sold them...where I was just the guy he hand selected as his partner

But football? He knows nothing about football because only retards study football instead of more important things (I am guilty too, but only after i set myself financially for life)

My friend? He loves football, loves watching the games on TV, loves going to the games in the stadium. But other than watching games he ignores football for things that actually matter

Way he got so rich was
several businesses he founded (well co-founded if you want to count me on the ones I he had me co-found with him, but it was his idea, he came up with it

2) real estate, he's like Trump, he's got tons of properties in tons of cities, most impressive is a whole street lined with huge apt complexes he owns. It all started with his first condo at age 20

But he didn't start off with a bunch of money from Daddy like Trump. He's actually self made

>>149949276
My brother abdul...too bad hes on the giants

>>149949256
I could see him getting snaps at corner maybe 10 or so a game to start with. I don't expect him to play both ways full time but they don't exactly have much talent in their secondary. They're gonna at least see if it can work. I don't think Gladstone was just blowing smoke the way he was talking him up

>>149948578
>hyped up by media and his Dad's brand to maybe even be the top pick
>taken in the 5th round
>by the Browns
>who already took Dillon Gabriel before him
Hard to imagine it isn't Shedeur

>>149949303
Then on top of that he always, ever since he left MBA school, has some cush high end white collar finance/business job as his side hustle that gives him at least $150K a year plus great benefits and all the perks you could ask for

He's worked for a variety of the top Fortune companies and he's the guy that says in the white collar world, nobody watches the NFL, only college football

NFL is for blue collar people. Which I have found to be true in my own life. Go walk into any restaurant kitchen during game day. You'll see them all watching NFL passionately but you won't see them watching college football

Probably bc who didn't go to college fell bad about that when watching college football, so they watch the NFL like all the other blue collar dummies

>>149949303
tl:dr

>>149949307
Just wait until his rookie contract is up, he'll come home.

>>149949276
insane body at 21yo damn

>>149949341
reading is hard

>>149949354
Go blogpost somewhere else

detoilet's defensive players are made of cardboard lmao

>>149949354
Nigger you typed out essays ain't nobody want to read that. I also remember you mentioning your friend with a 20 mil trust fund for his daughter. You talked about this shit weeks ago then made an autistic post claiming you made out with a bunch of strippers lol

>>149949303
It's crazy how this short of behavior is incentivized. Every other guy wants to be a financebro who buys real estate and trades options. None of that provides any actual real world value. Parasitic occupations. And it's worse because a lot of smart people gravitate to those. So much talent wasted.

AAAghhhhhhh

>>149949426
Probably the only good player on that massively over hyped CU team

>>149949354
>>149949372
>>149949393
Of course blue collar people on an NFL forum struggle with reading, that's why they didn't go to college

For fun, time yourself reading that using a stopwatch

I did it twice. Took me 30 seconds to read it all, both posts

And i am one of the slowest readers among college educated men, i enjoy taking my time

So if you takes you longer than 30 seconds to read all that, you might want to go see a doctor and get help

>>149949474
nabbed this from /cfb/

Cousins' wife is pretty, bros

>>149949474
Jimmy Horn Jr who the Panthers got in the 6th round is nice too. My Ravens actually drafted another WR from them Lajohntay Wester before Horn but I wasn't as high on him

>>149949490
hate this entitled nepobaby fuck, he got drafted to the only place that deserves trash like him

>>149948647
Leather helmet looks cool

>>149949490
Gabriel should get the job at the Browns

>>149949543
You think he actually wins the week 1 starting gig?

>>149949529
who raped you?

>>149949596
Coach Primate

>>149949486
What kind of person flexes over writing shit like this on an eggball banter forum?

>>149949596
>>149949607

>>149949493
She aight, def wifeable

>>149949594
He should but the Browns are retarded and will probably start Shadman

>>149949493
she's a quarterbacks wife

https://youtu.be/PzHKyVUcuDI
szechuan broccoli interview just dropped

>>149949493
If you're into milfs I guess

>>149949682
kevin hart might be the most forced nigger of all time

Third day in a row or Gayleb falling on his face
He does not have the work ethic to succeed

>>149949708
Who isnt

>>149949734
He was taught to just run away every snap. USC never gave him an oline

>>149949715
I have no idea how he made it so big he's painfully unfunny in everything I've seen him in outside of Scary Movie 3 and 4. I feel like black people find his humor funnier than everyone else

>>149949740
They usually have fake tits and that's disgusting

>>149949755
I love the episode of Black Dynamite with Richard Pryor where black dynamite is the only black person that doesn't find Pryor funny

>>149949741
He never learned how to play under center in general, or play in structure, and last year they didn't bother either. Now it's likely too late because they're teaching a 23 year old the stuff you learn in high school
His ceiling is just a little above Kyler Murray at this point. What he needed was a full year sitting out and drilling in the fundamentals, like Mahomes had. He was always a project QB and it's bewildering to me he was seen as NFL ready by the bears and media

>>149949802
JJ Watt once again bringing common bussy sense to the table. Tired of people being sensationalists and running away with their perceived narratives at fucking training camp of all places.

>>149949813
Real life isn't porn you dumb gooner

>>149949834
people are just hungry for football and are getting antsy, literally no reason to get worked up over it

big oof

>>149949871
>1 in 400 trillion
That many people have never even existed

>Jihad Campbell participating fully in practice already
lel how did the league let him fall to the Eagles. They can't keep getting away with it, can they?

>>149949543
>>149949594
>>149949662
It'll be (Super Bowl Champion) Kenny Pickett

>>149949616
People that matter and are worth listening to. Now I'm off to play around in the kitchen to see if I can create new recipe from the potatoes I just dropped

Going to /ck/ to see if there is an interesting thread to contribute to
>>>/ck/catalog

Then I'll go head over to /lit/ to be around people who can read, but it's been real hanging out with the retarded blue collar workers of /NFL/ and reading their retarded drivel, have fun!

>>149949755
hes an industry plant

>>149949928
I forgot they had him too. Holy fuck the Browns just stacked like 6 quarterbacks and assumed that would fix everything?

>>149949931
Same year and no major playoff wins for the Ravens since lol

>>149949138
>They're gonna be relying almost entirely on two rookies for their pass rush which is a massive ref flag.
They also picked up Leonard Floyd in FA, who has been a consistent decent pass rusher.
Bralen Trice & Brandon Dorlus were also healing up from injuries last season and didn't see much of the field, both drafted in 2024, both solid rushers in college. I agree though, pressure will probably still be an issue. Here's hoping Ulbrich leans into the talent of the secondary more than Lake did. Atlanta looked good on defense last season when they were being aggressive instead of sitting in soft zone.
>>149948289
I'm curious to see Nick Nash play in the preseason. He was an All-American receiver in his last year in college. His combine wasn't special but still, there may be something there.

>>149949981
Why did 55 just give up and not go for the tackle?

>>149949935
>Then I'll go head over to /lit/ to be around people who can read, but it's been real hanging out with the retarded blue collar workers of /NFL/ and reading their retarded drivel, have fun!
>Tips fedora

>>149949985
Fair I did forget they got Leonard Floyd he's notable. I'll keep an eye on Nick Nash he should definitely have every chance to play meaningful snaps given the names ahead of him on the depth chart

>>149950004
Because the Ravens are losers.

>>149950004
he would've been (((dealt with))) had he harmed Jewlian

>>149943283
Does intelligence matter that much? Look at Lamar Jackson. Dude is excellent and he sounds dumb as a rock.

>>149950035
We must stand with Israel and support its right to exist.

>>149950020
Yeah its a pretty meh WR room. I like Mooney & Ray-Ray alright but there's no depth behind them right now. Could be neat to see Jamal Agnew in on the occasional gadget play, I loved him in Jax.

it's the GOAT's birthday today
pay your respects

>>149949529
ynr deion forcing colorado to retire his jersey
>>149949543
didnt watch a lot of oregon games last year so i cant say if hes actually the best or not, but flacco/pickett starting feels like a complete waste of time so at least he would give me a reason to watch browns games

>>149949607
KWAB

>>149949952
The Giants did the same lel

>>149950089
Flacco is the same age as Rodgers and has taken a team to the playoffs more recently. I'm obviously bias but given how good the Browns O line is it seems strange everyone is shitting on their chances this season. I might even lay some $ on their season wins over

>>149949935
What does this poster look like

>>149949952
>>149950106
It's not a bad strategy. Superior to what my Falcons did in 2023 by saying "nah we're good with Desmond Ridder"

>>149949543
>manlet
>noodle arm
>wigger
Nah, I don't think he should.

>>149950187
>samoan
>wigger
huh?

>>149950197
Yes. They're spiritually white but almost all of them act black.

Black this bussy

>>149949303
>>149949339
Your friend is a faggot leech providing no value to society

>>149950148
Big fart sniffer vibes

>>149950126
>I might even lay some $ on their season wins over

Do it you chicken shit pussy! Can profit if you don't have any faith in yourself and what you know

>>149950089
Gabriel was basically Bo Nix light last year at Oregon

>>149950236
dont you post your naked ass??

>>149950236
He prob has an IQ high enough to appreciate Rick and Morty kek

>>149950209
Fascinating developments at the /nfl/ Race Science HQ

>>149949935
If you disappeared, nothing would change. If blue collar workers disappeared, everything would break down

>>149943220
will they play the battlefield 6 MP trailer during halftime?

>>149950236
>>149950231
Fuck, come back and got /ck/ in one tab and this is another and i see you retards still talking about me after I'm gone? Wow

>>149950148
I get told I look like Leonardo DiCaprio at lot, which is true from the front. But side profile of my head, I'm not a fan, but can't be great at everything


I'm sorry to make you so all jealous but it just is. Maybe work harder to better your own lives instead of posting retarded stuff with fellow retards about a sport that does nothing to better you?

>>149950005
I don't wear hats or any kind, my blonde hair is too beautiful not to show off all the time. Plus i have a great hairstylist: me, i have gotten so good at cutting my own hair that even $60 haircuts I pay for can't beat it

>>149950288
Just in case you missed it

>>149950317
Cringe and unfunny

It be like that

30 best offenses since 1999 according to my aEPA/play

>>149950350
another retarded post

>>149950317
you could have gone grammar police on me and got me for my typos as I half ass typed that at 150 wpm and I'm in a hurry because would like to go hang out with a better set of people than you losers

30 worst

>>149950359
Was those plastic tits and gym tightened ass worth it?

>>149950359
This dude is in his 50s playing in the snow with some girl younger than his own children. BAKA

>>149950359
why are people with money such retards?

>>149950395
In honor of Ozzy, that nigga snowblind

>>149950359
he's definitely made more as a TV personality than a football player by now right?

>>149943555
Congnitive tests are there to detect outliers. The difference between some guy having a 50th percentile wonderlic or a 60th is not significant but when someone has a 90th percentile score you know you're dealing with someone unusually sharp and when someone gets a Lamar-tier "well, you spelled your name correctly" score you know they have some mental deficiencies.

Regardless of whatever other talents you have, being hyperintelligent is usually beneficial and being functionally illiterate is usually not. It's not that you can't have some success even as a retard, but any sort of severe deficiency, physical or mental, is a liability that may limit your upside.

Vince Young had all the physical tools but never made it over the hump, in part because he was just dumb as a bag of bricks. Kyler Murray was bottom of his class and he infamously had to have film study written into his contract because apparently he wouldn't do it otherwise. Deshaun Watson was bottom of his class and, well, we all know how that turned out. Lamar Jackson is probably the best case scenario for an outright dumb qb and his career will be defined by a chronic inability to sustain drives against good defenses in the playoffs. Stroud had a good season once and we have no idea if its sustainable. Everything people are saying about Stroud is the same shit they were saying about Watson a few years ago. If you have 11/10 athletic ability being mid IQ might not kill your career but it probably shortens it little and will manifest in some negative way at some point. If the most important player on your team is shortbus-tier, you'd at least want to know before drafting them so you can make an informed decision

>>149950367
2020 Titans being up there is crazy, Derrick Henry is a beast

Not reading your essay spazz

>>149950367
There are just four super bowl winning offenses here, interestingly enough.
2016 NE
2019 KC
2020 TB
2022 KC

>>149950424

>>149950367
>2016 ATL

>>149950359
Ocho is right about Shannon. He needs to get his shit together and settle down with someone. Shannon is such a coomer.

>>149950367
Defense wins games unironically

>>149950485
As always, "didn't read" is code for "I read it and you're right but I don't want to admit it."

So which dumb qb is starting for your team?

Happy Friday, where is everyone going out tonight?

we got Italy and Germany posting here, and it's already 7:30pm there, so they about buttoning up and headed out the door

>>149950577
I'm going to go out for burgers soon.

>>149950497
*destroys your franchise forever*

Heh. Nothin' personnel, ATL

>>149950577
True chads unbutton before they go out

>>149950584
Burger alone? with mom? or? And then what?

>>149950625
Going out with some cousins.

tiktok NFL...

>>149950589
Shut up!

>>149948820
That's funny how you assume everyone who says anything bad about Brady is a Chiefs fan.

>>149948654
>>149948622
>Because Brady wasn't impressive in at least 2 of 3 of those Super Bowl runs. I mean he was more impressive than then water boy but that isn't saying much
Agreed. Jimmy G was close to winning a Superbowl since he had a good coach and system. Take Jimmy G off that team and he's not good enough to qualify as a backup QB. Brady had 1 TD and 1 INT in total in the playoffs for his first superbowl run.

>>149950629
Doesn't that mean the Pats defense is shit if Maye is dunking on them at practice? Kek

>>149950620
Right. I didn't believe it either but then my friend started going out without buttoning his pants, no belt even. Pants kept sagging and falling down on him and he was constantly holding his pants and adjusting him but he was picking up like he had never before. So I was like fuck it and did no button too, and yeah, I'm picking up all the time now too. Just be aware your pants will be falling down to your knees and ankles a lot so have whatever you got underneath looking all nice, trim those pubes all nice etc

>>149950577
rain and thunder today here. Will watch some movies. Probably The Spy Who Came in from the Cold with richard burton.

>>149950628
Maybe you could all go out to the club first? Try to pick up some chicks to get burger with you?

>>149950658
Fuck you I laughed harder than I should have

>>149948976
>failing the line test
kcbros... this season isn't looking so good...

>>149950653
It does and they will be bad. Bump and run corners don't mix well with a predominantly zone-based defense

Imagine if the Pats hadn't won a meaningless game against backups week 18 and were able to draft Hunter to play across from Gonzalez and do some meme plays on offense.

What did he mean by this?

>>149950704
>pneumonia and fluid in his lungs, and also sustained a calf injury
Sounds like it's time to retire and not fucking die, buddy

>>149950704
W A S H E D

>>149945831
>>149945982
It's more of the case of Mahomes started out as high as you can be and with time has came back down to earth. He's still going for 3peats and beating Allen and Lamar at their best, so it's kind of a silly argument.

IGNORE PATTYSCHIZO POSTS
DO NOT REPLY

>>149950658
>trim those pubes all nice etc
ha i just did this yesterday to get ready for the weekend

>>149950577
I live off one of the happening strips in my city, this one is one of the smaller ones, just like 4 blocks with like 20 restaurants, cafes, and dessert places, 3 coffee shops, 2 bars, 1 live music venue that has shows each weekend

So I just walk that if have nothing else to do. Being its a restaurant heavy strip, best time to walk the strip is around 6-7pm on Friday nights

>>149950664
was rain and thunder here last two times I went out on same strip and was still fun, hell one of the bars was the most happening I have ever seen in and that was on Wed with rain and thunder

But yeah, if you feel bad, take it easy, but it you feel aright,, get dressed and go walk around the happening nightlight strips by you

Do you need tips on how to talk to people?

u mad?

>>149950692
pats don't need a corner, they would have traded back

>>149950834
They did before they signed Davis III, and Hunter is a generational talent.
But either way, trading the first pick would have net them a haul. They could have made the same trade the Browns did and still have picked Campbell or Membou while improving several of their picks and adding a future 1st.

Is there an answer to this?

>>149950892
Based Lamar

>>149950892
he just ate alot

>>149950892
The answer is the same reason there are black and brown stripes on the gay pride flag

>>149950874
>Eagles are schedulebabbys
>7-1 against top ten teams, the only loss coming without WR1, WR2, and RT1

>>149950892
He tried to form babby and succeeded

>>149950892
>women with short hair can't get pregnant
Chat is this true?

>>149950892
TYBL

>>149950892
The yellow guy and girl don't like asian at all.

>>149950892
It still baffles me that Apple unironically created a pregnant man emoji kek

>>149950892
>>149950896
>>149950909
They've already made male lab mice give birth, it's only a matter of time before they can do it with humans. If your definition of women is someone who gives birth you're going to have to pick a new cope. Btw go Eagles.

>>149951025
Who cares

>JEST

Is Tyrann Mathieu a hall of famer?

>>149951091
Borderline, but probably? Name recognition puts him over the top I guess.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45823371/sources-least-100-players-face-penalty-super-bowl-tix

Lol wat

Rashee Rice is outclassing everyone in training camp.

It's fucked up the league will probably give him a 5-6 game suspension to nerf my Chiefs.

If I'm Taylor Swift I'm telling Rodger Goodell I'm only attending games with Rashee Rice.

>>149951091
No. If Lester Hayes and Jack Tatum can't get in, then neither should he.

>>149951091
>>149951110
fuck no dude was a one year wonder before his injury and average for the rest of his career

pro-bowls and all-pros dont mean shit

>>149951110
I think everyone would agree Richard Sherman is a hall of famer. Tyrann Mathieu has the same amount of First-Team All-Pros and rings.

>>149950704
>What did he mean by this?
I don't think he did this on purpose to make some kind of statement, anon.

>>149951269
>one year wonder
You meant to say 3 year wonder. He had 3 First-Team All-Pros.
>pro-bowls and all-pros dont mean shit
Unlike pro bowls, the First-Team All-Pro matters on your resume. Here is the ranking of prestige
1. Ring
2. MVP
3. Superbowl MVP
4. First-Team All-Pro

>>149951243
This. So much this

So much this bussy

>>149951243
I don't know why chiefoids hype this guy up so much. Desperation? He's not bad but he's not more than a solid WR2.

>>149951091
No.

>>149951489
When you have nobodies and they take your only semi-decent receiver it matters. It's like a nation with only one nuclear-powered submarine and it sinks. They are fucked now.

>>149951489
His play speed is top 10 the league. When he runs his routes he's a rare player who can accelerate into turns. It's his hips and hands. But he's a moron otherwise he'd be torybholt junior

What did the Chiefs spend their money on?
>Chiefs receiving corps has to be bottom 3 in the league so they couldn't have invested money there.
>Chiefs defense is mostly young guys who haven't gotten a big contract so the money didn't go here.
>Chiefs o-line was spotty, if the money went here they got fleeced.
Who is stealing money?

>>149951243
>It's fucked up the league will probably give him a 5-6 game suspension to nerf my Chiefs.
It’s a just dessert. He caused a wreck involving tiny children and fled. Blame him instead of the league.

>>149951602
Maybe it has something do with Mahomes' and Kelce's massive contracts when they aren't playing up to expectations. Kelce is making $17 million this season with a potential roster bonus of over $10 million on top of that when he's the most washed up player on that team

>>149951602
Mahomes, Thuney, Kelce and Taylor are eating up their cap

>>149951614
For better or worse traffic crime has never been judged by the actions but results. You could be going 20 mph _under_ the speeding limit but if you hit a child you are fucked, whereas you could be going 20 mph _over_ the limit but if you don't hit anyone you walk away with just a ticket. Nobody got injured in that car accident, it was just a bunch of people gifting to profit off the situation (I would do the same).

>>149951614
i dont understand the mindset of running away after a car wreck

>>149951648
This post convinced me that you don't even have a driver's license, much less know how to drive

>>149950629
>training camp completion percentage after two days

>>149951652
You probably don't drive around with bricks of drugs and unregistered guns.

>>149951652
If there's no dash cams you could have asked one of your friends to be a fall guy. Rice should have hoped over in the passenger side and exit the vehicle so he could argue he wasn't driving. His friend would gladly take a 1M bribe to do 30 days in jail. Hell, I'd do 30 days in jail for 50k.

The Roman military machine, and the pride of the ancient world, was at its peak only 1,908 years ago, which is recent history considering we know humans have been cooking with fire for at least a million years now (some studies think 2 million)

I wish we knew who today were direct male descendents of every Roman soldier that served honorably

all male line of descent too, based on son to son to son to son. Grated many of those lineages have died out due to no kids or now sons but there should be plenty still alive today

18 games when? 2 preseason games are enough

>>149951698

>>149951630
>>149951640
>Maybe it has something do with Mahomes' and Kelce's massive contracts when they aren't playing up to expectations.
If most of your WRs are trash and your O line is spotty it's going to be harder for Kelce to get open. I really think it's the Jawaan Taylor contract. The guy is getting paid elite money but is playing like garbage. Hopefully Veach learned his lesson and will never give 60M guaranteed again.

>Justin Jefferson has a hamstring strain
HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA VIQUEENS SEASON IS ALREADY OVER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>149951709
Maybe Mahomes should take a pay cut so they can afford good pass protection

>>149951699
I want 8 preseason games

>>149951699
agreed, preseason is boring af
>>149951719
just watch some euro ELF, would be same quality

>>149951719
This. To make it fair, every team should be down to their starters and 5th stringers at the start of the season

>>149951713
mccrathy doesn'ty need jeferson

If you're the NFL commissioner how would you fix the problem of teams giving up late in the season once they're out of playoff contention?
-A play-in tournament with all the bad teams?
-Add extra draft picks for teams that win late in the season?

>>149951652
Low IQ criminal blacks do it instinctively because back when they used to drive stolen cars they could just walk away. When you're ditching a very expensive luxury car registered in your name it doesn't really work so well but once the criminal behavior is ingrained it just becomes reflexive.

Andy Reid and pieces of fucking shit being menaces to those around them, name a more iconic duo

>>149951732
probably not give them a pizza parties after the season ends

>>149951713
>Justin Jefferson has a hamstring strain
I just googled it, it's a minor

>>149951652
Probably some fight or flight type of mentality

>>149951729
Ok I was joking but what is this retarded shit
Literally every team could use Jefferson

>>149951747
>>149951652
If there's wasn't a dashcam Rashee Rice would have asked one of his yes-men to take the fall. It's as simple as that. That's the smart move to play when millions of dollars are on the line.

>>149951709
Any defense with a brain is going to be playing man on Kelce anyway

>noooo we cant release the classic Blue and white color scheme, we would look too much like the colts!!!
>I Know! Lets release a black jersey so we look like rent-a-steelers instead!
We are never getting the classic unis ever again just why

>>149951243
Based

>>149951713
It's over

>>149951732
I don't give a fuck because tanking doesn't work in the NFL. If it did the Browns would be a dynasty.

Ratings are peak, revenues are good, fans are fine with bad teams getting their shit pushed in by good ones, so let the bad teams stay bad

>>149951602
worst kelce is making almost as much as saquon

>>149951602

>>149951787
sorry, he's making MORE than what the eagles are paying saquon

>>149951764
>should I simply not engage in high speed racing in broad daylight in traffic?
>No, Ill drive like a maniac, wreck, and pay one of my homies to take the fall
>that's the smart move

Nigger logic

>>149951787
>>149951640
>>149951630
>worst kelce is making almost as much as saquon
Kelce has been underpaid his entire career and deserved the money, but I'm just mad how it played out. There's no evidence Kelce's agent demanded more money, the GM just randomly went up to him and was like "i appreciate you now let me make you the highest paid TE even though you're older than Rob Gronkowski". Who the fuck does that in football.

>>149951602
>>149951802
Mahomes and Chris Jones are about to see big jumps in their cap hit due to how their contracts are structured.

>>149951812
That's right, no white person has ever done any reckless driving in the day time. And certainly if they did none would try to get out of seeing any repercussions.

>>149951802
>Jawaan Taylor
Leads the league in penalties and is just average at his position. Worst contract in years.
>Travis Kelce
He shouldn't be making this much but it's backpay.
>Jaylon Moore
In the few starts we saw him in he was just average. They fleeced Veach.

The rest are fine.

>>149951713
>>149951713
Imagine Jefferson showing up to get surgery on his hamstring and he sees his surgeon doing this shit in the lobby
>Ohhhhhm ohhhhhm
>It's for my anxiety. This helps me out you know. Haha
>Ohhhhhm ohhhmmmm


Yeah. ain't no way Jefferson is gonna be comfortable with this goofy dude as his surgeon. What makes you think his QB doing this shit will be any different?

>>149951751
>Jefferson has a minor
Fucking pedo

>>149951818
>25% of the salary cap going to the mutt
I fully expect Andy to retire after this season regardless of how the Queefs do so he doesn't need to deal with that shit for the rest of Mahomes' contract

>>149951828
Name the last white player who wrecked his shit drag racing in broad daylight and then fled the scene.

Not even saying it never happened but I sure as fuck don't remember any recent examples

>>149951818
Can't they just keep reconstructing Mahomes contract to free up space? I'm sure he'll be willing to

>>149951751
>>149951875
ZAMN!

>>149951912
Sure but that means that at some point he's either going to have to give up the money or it's going to come due and cripple them. So there's a limit to that method.

>>149951751
You better hope he fully recovers. Those injuries linger and are a risk for re-injury. Especially if the athlete comes back too soon.

>>149951818
>>149951912
If I'm the Chiefs GM I would keep restructuring until a rebuild year then pay most of it.

>>149951877
>Reid will retire
>Kelce will either retire or become an albatross contract
>Perpetual salary cap due to an expensive qb and multiple high-profile players you can't afford to let goof without admitting you're in full rebuild mode
>always trying to remain competitive means shitty draft position so you never get the blue chip rookies

Yeah it's going to be a rough transition for Cheifsfags. I think most of them are not mentally prepared for the post-Reid mediocrity that is about to ensue.

>>149951912
>just become the Saints, bro

>>149951993
That chiefs fan is forever immortalized in a game they won.

>>149951993
all good things must come to an end );

Kittle finally speaks in a dramatic moment
https://youtube.com/shorts/Z38iTbZRl4s

>>149952078
I see randos at the gym with better bodies than that. TEs must be more about skill than physical strength.

>>149952063
Do you get paid to do this, to spam this slop? Answer honestly.

>>149952148
Kelce has admitted he doesn't lift weights, although he's really just a big slot, not a real TE. I wouldn't even consider him an h-back, guy is allergic to contact.

>>149952155
he's the steelers fan who post the steelers jannu gif at the start of every thread. he's not being paid to do it, he just has really bad taste

>>149951993
Not to mention the Chorgers and Broncos are competitive now

>Rapaport: bitchknees is on the Epstein list
Pam Bondi just dispatched agents to his mother's basement

>>149951993
>>always trying to remain competitive means shitty draft position so you never get the blue chip rookies
Belichick regularly traded down and even out of the first round, still made things work. Of course, he's a better coach & GM than Reach (lol).

>>149951977
I think they've done it multiple times, they probably will keep doing that with mahomes at least. but if they do it with more players they better have an owner willing to pay and that has liquid money

>>149951993
>Reid will retire
How many more seasons does he have realistically?
I know he's old and fat but looks like he did lose some weight

Reminder that Missouri and Kansas should be rangebanned. Waterpeople are subhumans.

>Union leader is corrupt and misappropriates funds
No way dude I'm so shocked oh my god

>>149952280
I say let the lifelong KC fans have their heydey. It's the bandwagoners who are annoying

lel and Q is just sitting there all chill

JJ McSharty throws 2 pick 6’s in practice today top Kek kangzfagz on suicide watch

>>149952191
I just don't see another explanation though. All these spam posts with no text, that no one asked for, that pretty much no one replies to. Why keep doing this if you're not getting paid by some slop company to try to normalize their cancer?

brady got heemed 25 times by the SB broncos defense and still almost beat them you put mahomes in that situation its a blowout by 40

>>149952225
based

There should be 2 bye weeks. Players need and deserve a rest.

>>149952764
They get to rest for like 8 months in between shifts

players deserve this bussy

rest this bussy

Haha GAYDERS

>yfw Pat "Diddy" Mahomes slips on a banana and suffers a career ending injury

>>149952886
those unis should be broncos defaults

Peyton Manning.

you guys ever pull a booger out your nose that felt like it was stuck to your brainstem

pull a booger out of this bussy

>>149952892
nah let him fall off a bit first

>>149952904
Unfortunately since they just changed them they have to wait I think 3 years if they want to do that. The Bengals did win their approach to the NFL because they wanted to wear their white and black unis more so we'll probably see the Broncos retros 3 times next season

>>149952926
this nigga been using the same ai model for 2 whole ass years istg

chasebabby

>>149952911
those are the best
they usually come with a little brain fluid, too

>>149952267
One

>>149952267
He's got to lay off the nuggies. Also they signed him for 5 years so only Diabeetus can kill him now

*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

>>149952953
Nah that throw was on fucking point. Burrow always has top tier ball placement and touch on his throws. Too bad he will never win a Super Bowl in here career.

>>149952953
Why are the Bengals practicing on a middle recess field?

christian wilkins was a goodell double agent sent to sew dissent and soak up cap space from the raiders
makes me sick that the shield is still tampering with us to keep us down, this will not stand

>>149953101
God she is so mid

>>149953119
but enough about me

>>149953101
God she is so beautiful

>When Aaron Rodgers realized toilet in his & DK Metcalf's suite flushed loudly, QB told WR: "At night, if we got to piss, just don't flush the toilet."

>9:30 Wednesday night, DK texted: "You asleep yet?" Aaron wasn't.

>"Bet. I'm about to flush the toilet."

>>149953155
God he is so gay

>>149953155
>This week, on Days of our Steelers

>>149953086
I remember watching Burrow in his final year at LSU. The routine throws he made were absolutely insane. How the fuck did he improve so much in one offseason?

>>149953177
2018 - 2,894 yards/16 TDs/5 INTs/ 57.8%

2019 - 5,671 yards/60 TDs/6 INTs/ 76.3%

The best season that a college QB has ever had.

>>149953155
So DK's deep in closet as well?

>>149953205
>more INTs in 2019

>>149953177
>>149953205
This is honestly really inspirational. Think of how much your life can change if you lock in and grind like Joe Burrow. I love when sports can teach us life bussy lessons like this.

>>149953205
true

>>149953244
Hurts was honestly really impressive in his last season at Oklahoma too. LSU was just insanely stacked.

>>149953254

>>149953105
Why'd they pay him so much guaranteed money. Sounds like a skill issue on the part of the GM.

>>149953223
44 more TDs as well.

>>149953105
Is he still hurt? He should join the Eagles' D Line rotation for a season.

tunga tanga baloonga gunga

>>149953155
Should've retired after that playoff game at Lambeau in the snow. Would've been a perfectly fine sendoff. Now he just looks pathetic.

>>149953303
He's been playing football his entire life, pretty sure he loves it and still has fun with it.

>>149953324
Can't play games forever, anon

>>149953337
Might as well ride that horse until it falls, especially if someone is still willing to pay you millions of dollars to do it

>>149953295
>Is he still hurt?
Yeah that's why they want a refund

>>149953280
>>149953295
yes he’s still hurt, he refused the medical trainer’s recommendation to get a second corrective surgery as the first one didnt take
he said he wouldnt and wants it to heal naturally so they released him
he probably won’t play again in any real capacity

>>149953402
Based

>>149953402
>signing a rookie for 4 year contract
Fucking what?

>>149953402
are the bengals retarded?

>>149953409
Don't all rookies have 4 or 5 year deals

>>149953155
I don't flush every time I piss. It's a waste.

>>149953490
4 years, 5th year option for 1st rounders

>>149953402
>fully guaranteed
>for a guy who hasn't played a snap for them

>>149953402
Good

>>149953521
>for them
Meant to say the NFL

>>149953521
every 1st rounder is fully guaranteed lol

>>149951766
I like the midnight blue they are allegedly for the rivalry jersey

>>149953455
Very much so

ya seethe?

ya seethe?

Guys, I've been crunching these numbers all day and it keeps coming up 7 > 3
Is this really true?

>>149953558
@grok there's no way that's true right?

>>149953521
All 1st round picks are guaranteed. Bengals tried to get out of it like cheap faggot Jews for realizing they picked a genetic freak that somehow only has slightly more on field production than this general does.

>>149953548
>>149953556
>jobs against mutthomo

>football starts in a week

Holy kino

>>149953402
Not looking great for Trey talks

>>149953650
I seriously hope you niggas dont watch pre season games

did anyone see this?
>Sources: At least 100 players face penalty over Super Bowl tix
>At least 100 players from roughly half of the NFL's 32 teams face fines and possible suspension for allegedly selling their allotted tickets to this year's Super Bowl LIX above face value in violation of league policies, multiple sources told ESPN.
>Under an agreement between the league and the NFL Players Association, players who violated the rule will be fined 1½ times the face ticket value and lose their allotted tickets to the next two Super Bowls. If they are playing in the game, the players will have the chance to purchase seats.
>Those who decline the punishment could be suspended by commissioner Roger Goodell, league and union sources with direct knowledge of the situation said.
>The sources said that the number of players involved was "in excess of 100," some of whom have already accepted the fines to avoid missing games. A league source declined to identify the players and employees who had sold their Super Bowl tickets or their clubs.
>"Our initial investigation has determined that a number of NFL players and coaches, employed by several NFL Clubs, sold Super Bowl tickets for more than the ticket's face value in violation of the policy," read the memo from NFL chief compliance officer Sabrina Perel to the teams.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45823371/sources-least-100-players-face-penalty-super-bowl-tix

>>149953682
The Saints are the only team with meaningful preseason games. Spencer Rattler and Tyler Shough are battling for the QB1 position. Everyone should be watching their games.

you guys did this. are you happy now?

>>149953711
she could post bobs and vagene

>>149953711
She should show the goods before leaving. Those tits kept me watching FS1 for nearly a decade.

>>149953682
>not seeing the next huge stars on your team
I remember seeing Gibbs get one drive in preseason and knew that dude was him. But also not surprised Swiftie “fans” are casuals.

>>149953711
>>149953724
>>149953741
This chick is going to age into mush.

>>149953741
>first things first ends
>speak comes on
>look at joy's tits
>switch channel

My Saints are so irrelevant, nobody noticed them revealing this fucking abomination

>>149953766
eh it's fine, the nigga on the left just makes it look goofy with that hair

>>149953781
It looks fucking awful. What should be the primary uniforms have been staring them in the face for years.

>>149953682
I root for my team. Simple as.

>>149953682
Browns might be entertaining if shedeur or gabriel is playing

>>149953682
you're not a real fan if you don't

>>149953682
I've been to training camps

>>149953711
>dream is to disappear
>keeps getting larger

>>149953682
I'll watch it in the background because nothing else is on

What the hell is going on in Oxnard?

>>149953925
>spider manscott

>>149953862
It's like trump trying to cover up his child rape with Epstein :)

>>149954126
trip on bitchknees

>>149954131
Fuck that liberal. I just don't like people who rape kids. Throw Clinton in jail too.

When did *child rapist shouldn't be president " become a liberals only ideal apparently

>>149954152
>>149954180
shut up bitchknees

>>149954180
thats how far right this country has shifted. SAD!

>>149942966 (OP)
>WAS: Commanders agree to terms on one-year extension with Percy Butler.
WOW, who cares

>>149953711
>>149953711
It's racism that brought her down

>>149954240
who's the blonde?

>>149954257
Some soulless whore from California no doubt.

>>149954240
Goddamn I can see why she would be able to fuck her way to the top

>>149954240
>that flat ass

Yuck

>>149954272
leave her alone, she's cute and reminds me of my cousin

>>149954240
Too old and developed for my taste.

>>149954298
Hey Donald.

>>149954298
i wish this was the real bitchknee

>>149954298
>t.Jeffery

>>149954292
t. Wannabe cousin fucker

move
>>149954369
>>149954369
>>149954369

>>149954357
yes.
problem?

>>149954371
make me

>>149954379
You will burn in hell for your sins.

>>149954439
Based

>>149954439
cousins are not forbidden in scripture

>>149953683
Doesn't seem like a big deal