Thread 149959191

Nagoya 2018 Edition

>Banzuke:
http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

>Fight Schedule & Results:
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/

>Some sumo links and how to watch live:
https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d

Previous:
>>149934887

First for 11-4

Aonishiki vs Kotoshoho

>>149959191 (OP)
Gusano theme for tomorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYYES8EDRQM

KUSANO YUSHO!

>>149959191 (OP)
what a glorious shenshuraku lineup

>>149959261
It's what the current banzuke is missing: enough ozeki and yokozuna to crowd the dohyo. It's just not the same with one ozeki and two yokozuna.

>>149959261
the single pack mini meme... what does it mean?

>>149959243
>Disdain for plebs

>m15 in the lead
>m1 and m14 chasing
Are we at peak clown?

the fix is in

>>149959295
>what does it mean?
I'm sure it's nothing

>>149959371
>snorlax
It's been two years since we lost Ichinojo...

Say thank you to these oyakata for keeping the venue safe.

FINAL DAY

>Aonishiki vs Kotoshoho
>Kusano vs Takayasu
>Onosato vs Kotozakura
>Kirishima vs Wakatakakage

Tomorrow someone will say a name...

Please fucking throw the zoomer tomorrow like a sack of potatoes for me

>>149959476
Potential for a three way playoff without a single Sanyaku in it. When's the last time that happened?

>>149959716
Kusano manages to position himself better where he can do his style of sumo

>>149959424
Surely they can at least get some proper mallets for pounding the rice bales instead of using a cheap beer bottle from the konbini, right?

>>149960072
It is good luck to prepare the tawara with the same things you train your rikishi with

>>149960072
The beer bottle is apex tool for beating tawara. Its right shaped, hardness is perfect and its light. Plus if it breaks you can just go get a new one from konbini for 1 dollar or something

I'm too stupid to use the database. When was the last time there were no sanyaku or Yokozuna running for yusho?

>>149960362
Depending on how you define it, March last year when Takerufuji won it since he was 2 wins clear at the end. Before then? November 2022 when Tamawashi won at M3 and was 2 wins clear of the Sanyaku by the end.

I meant no Sanyaku or Yokozuna being able to even fight for yusho on the final day. With my limited data analysis skills I got the 2020 January basho where both jun-yusho have been maegashira

>>149959667
what % of Jomon is this

>>149960362
>>149960551
Going into the final day, no Sanyaku were eligible to win the two basho I mentioned. When Takeru won 13-2 both Zak and Hosh were 10-4 going into the last day, and when Tamawashi won 13-2 it was just WTK at 10-4 going into the last day. The next in the sequence would be this basho, as Onosato's 10-4 can't catch up to Kotoshoho's 12-2.

>>149960640
>body hair
>facial hair
>thick brow
>WIDE frame
Taka is a eugenically engineered jomon super jap

>>149960640
101% pure filipino bull

>>149960800
hirohito's experiments...all to create this...sugoi...

>>149960914
He knows that he had it in the bag but threw

>>149961061
More like he knows he's going to have to endure hours of disappointed glare training after this.

This is my first time following a basho live.

I'm beginning to worry that I might be cursed by an evil spirit.

>>149961205
Allow me to purify you.

>>149959670
>three way playoff without a single Sanyaku in it. When's the last time that happened?
Never.

Second ever normal playoff without Sanyaku.

>>149961438
It is strikingly obvious when the era of clownery began when you show data like that.

Only two times has a wrestler won a juryo yusho followed by a makuuchi yusho. Takerufuji was the last. Nobody has ever won two consecutive juryo yusho then a makuuchi yusho so that would be a first if kusano takes it tomorrow.

>>149960836

I'm a White(-ish, if being an Italian Sicilian-American of Morisco surname is white) American who has a fetish for Filipinos. The Filipinos are hawt they have our common ancestral experience of being in the crossroads of Islam and Christianity. And I agree Filipino men are hawt, they are the only Asians with Latin American (Mexican) ancestry. Which makes them unique and hot.

They are the only Asians with Latin American ancestry

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_settlement_in_the_Philippines

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Filipinos


I wish to suck on tons of Filipino dicks!

>>149961655
Get this gay shit out of here. Your kind is not welcome here. Go to the baseball thread. That's full of gays already.

>>149960836
50% Filipino 50% Ainu caveman. No way his dad wasn't a hairy bearded guy

>>149961678
>gay
It can't get more gay than this.

>>149961641
What about winning without fighting an O or Y? Don't know how to query that.

>>149961288
Thanks anon, I can feel the evil spirit leaving already.

I watched the Atamifuji Takayasu bout again and it's really impressive. Atami had him dead to rights three separate times and Taka slipped by all of them and then tossed Atami when he got worn down.

>>149961641
Yeah but at that point you're just inventing achievements.

>>149962226
>inventing achievements
That's what happens when someone achieves something notable for the first time, you fucking midwit.
Every day I move closer to filtering your atrocious flag...

the only chiyoshoma fan in the land of the rising sun

>>149960914
Anyone got video of this?

Turns out that walking forward only works against sanyaku.

>>149962194
Yeah it was a good bout atleast, recently most of Papayasu's are really good.

Anyone riding with kotoshoho

>>149960640
he is half philipino

>>149963511
swimming with koioshoho

Some predictions:
Kusano 12-3
Oonosato 11-4
Tamawashi 11-4
Wakatakakage 10-5
Abi 9-6

>>149961559
Abi is truly the most evil spirit.

>JSA
Finally we have two Yokozuna, no more basho being won by undeserving low rankers.
>Reality
Three way Maegashira playoff.

Isegahama should glue Atamifujis wallet for this kind of behaviour

>>149964638
>toddler's reaction when you say no more cocomelon

>>149964638
He knew this was an incredible chance to yusho because the Sanyaku is so sparse and mopey this basho. All he had to do was win his last two along with an Aonishiki win, and he'd be in a playoff. After this basho Onosato won't have rope hangover, and both Hoshoryu and Daieisho will be back.

>>149964896
How likely is a Horse kyujo next bash?

>>149964638
Imagine the shame if he did this on the dohyo

Damn we've had seven Makuuchi kyujos this basho.

>Hosh, Daieisho, Takkers, Tobi, Ura, Endo, Hidenoumi

>>149964638
>they cut it off
kek, very disonorabu display.

>>149964951
One would hope that he would learn to pace himself in training and not grind his bones to dust to show his warrior spirit.

Dan can still win

>>149965969
After today's slip it's entirely up to him. One more time he has to prove that he deserves it

>>149965969
Well, yeah. His opponent tomorrow is Kotoshoho. Dan is explicitly in control of his fate at this point.

>>149965969
he can win if it's a playoff at 11-4 because dan is destined to get 11-4 for the rest of his career, no more and no less

>>149964638
poor tomato...
>>149965181
Chairman Hakkaku has spoken, he must practice more.

If Churanoumi wins tomorrow his streak of going double digits will extend to seven basho.

>>149962513
consecutive juryo yushos only means that your first win was weak because the division is only 14 ranks deep. the "achievement" you invented turns on being too weak to pull a decent score the first time around.

>>149964202
JSA desperately hoping that hoshitryu and onosato regain their form and overcome the pressure
I could see onosato doing it, he was dominant up to this point and crumbled a bit in his first showing as yokozuna
hoshitryu might be a lost cause and was better off staying as ozeki

>>149966474
>beats all of sanyaku
>can't handle the maegashitters
he wasn't ready for the extra motivation the kinboshi gives the low rankers

>>149966474
Hosh's only problem has been injuries. He messed his elbow up earning his rope, then for July overtrained because he was trying too hard to prove himself. Chill.

> kiriSHITma: hey guys i'm gonna get ozeki ba-ACK
its pretty much over for him, even if he manages 9 wins he won't get 13 at aki

>>149966710
Horse just isn't good enough to perform yokozuna level sumo more than once in a blue moon. He made the rank against a weak sanyaku during the power vacuum following the takakeisho & teru retirements and won't face a schedule as weak again for the rest of his career. he will be a dependable 10-5 or 11-4 when in perfect condition, his only hope is to bulk up more.

>>149966804
33 isn't a hard line in the sand. I could see the JSA going down to 32 for Kirishitma and WTK. One is a former Ozeki and two time champion, and the other is a former champion who's looked great since his return. We're sort of lacking in Ozeki right now. Daieisho would've been given it on 32, I promise you.

>>149964638
Well, he's not getting any yusho anymore, unless he goes back to juryo.

>>149967042
If WTK beat Onosato and Kiri the last two days and made it to 11 and 32 total, I think you're right and they would've bent a little and gave it to him. Definitely yes for Daiesho on 32. Kiri I don't know, I've heard they are harsher on standards for returning ozeki but i haven't checked the data on that myself.

>>149967110
It's easy to forget since he feels like such a mainstay, but Atamin is only 22. If Teru can disappointed glare some sense into him he'll be a fine Sanyaku member one day.

>>149966060
This is now my favorite sumo conspiracy theory/prediction

>>149966965
The next year is gonna be super interesting with this fresh wave of meat we're getting. Takerufuji has turned out to be a lame duck because steroid chanko isn't very healthy, but Hakuoho is still grinding it out in the joi, and Aonishiki, Kusano, Fujinokawa, and Kotoeiho (praise be unto his shiko) all have incredible potential.

I wonder how Takerufuji feels watching Aonishiki outperform him in the joi to the Nth degree.

>>149967415
>Kotoeiho
yeah the 5-9 M17 guy is gonna dominate

>>149968177
He has incredible role models at his stable like his older brother, Kotoshoho.
>uhhhh but what about kotozakur-
SHUT. UP.

Reminder that makuuchi bouts start 30 minutes earlier today.

If Kusano actually learned some techniques instead of relying on his monster strength and size we can be something big

>>149969223
Relying on size and power makes you into a worse On*sato.

>>149969223
He looks lost and crumbles when facing someone with good judo skills. Just look at the Wakatakakage bout.

>>149969493
It's his first basho at Makuuchi level, he has plenty of time to develop.

>>149969789
Really? One thread ago you were literally calling him Alexander the Great

>>149969899
No I wasn't, schizo-chan. Personally I thought Kusano ran hot in Juryo and would get a KK in Makuuchi. Getting close to the yusho was off the cards since I, like everyone else, assumed we had a functioning Sanyaku.

>>149969915
I'm not a schizo, I just misread the reply chain. It was a mistake, like the country of England.

That Aonishiki dude is pretty good huh?

>>149972721
no he SUCKS he CHEATERS!

>>149972748
how?

Tamanoi oyakata says Kotoshoho has no chance against Dan.
Imagine the KWABs if he goes into senshuraku as sole leader and ends up losing.

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/07/26/kiji/20250726s00005000264000c.html

>>149972760
white

>>149972901
but he is a slav

5 of the 6 possible promotions in juryo are borderline cases. If Shishi wins today he will likely stay in makuuchi

>>149972819
Meanwhile Kotoshoho soundly beat Onosato?

>>149973152
>muh Kotoshohocope

>>149973152
Onosato is washed

>>149973292
And Dan lost to him. HARD.

>>149964638
Fair enough
I had a similar reaction at home, knowing they would be no chance of a funny four way playoff

>>149964638
404 hinkaku not found

Koga going for a career best 5-2 record in the early action today

>>149973307
yeah he hardly lost

I want Aonishiki to win in the end. I want him to win the basho, but inevitably I'd put myself in Kotoshoho's shoes, and it would be terrible:
>He defeats all his opponents
>Including the unstoppable Yokozuna Onosato
>He only has three losses
>Enough to lose the basho on the final day

If Takayasu "Zoomer Destroyer" defeats Kotoshoho, it could be the end. Even if Aonishiki doesn't defeat Kusano, the latter would stand between Kotoshoho and victory. Losing the basho in literally the last match must be devastating; we really are in the twilight of sumo...

>>149967141
>I've heard they are harsher on standards for returning ozeki but i haven't checked the data on that myself
not much of a data wrangler but these were the 2 most recent re-promotion runs I could find

2006 Miyabiyama (denied) K 10-4, S 14-1Y, S 10-5
2021 Terunofuji (re-promoted) K 13-2D, S 11-4J, S 12-3Y
I know it's mid 2000s JSA but 10/14/10 with a yusho getting shot down is pretty wild to me

>>149973742
Miyabayama lost to Hakuho, you drunk Irish bastard.

>>149973832
in my defence I'm stupid and it's late

>>149973742
34 wins getting shot down is pretty crazy, but that was a time where they had 5 ozeki and a hyper dominant yokozuna so they weren't hurting for sanyaku. If that's all the data we have on returning ozeki then I think we can say they'd likely be more lenient to Kirishima right now if he made 32 or 33 (he won't).

>>149973832
>posts Miyabayama winning in regulation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZK7mwGLpQY
Hakuho's first yusho almost 20 years ago, his father in attendance

>>149973893
yeah I'd expect 33 would be fine but he badly needs to get his shit together

>>149973912
Yeah, I realized it was wrong as soon as I hit post, lol.

>>149973893
It was because Miyabiyama's promotion to ozeki was controversial because some JSA directors thought he was too inexperienced in the top division and had major flaws in his fighting style (bad tachi-ai, weak belt fighting technique) that they didn't approve of. He got the bare minimum of votes needed (7/10) to get ozeki because he was given the benefit of the doubt by having enough wins, then proceeded to have a bad ozeki career where he never got double digit wins and lost ozeki after eight basho. When Miyabiyama got 14-1, he was only offered ozeki on the condition that he got 11+ wins the next basho.

>>149973142
>If Shishi wins today he will likely stay in makuuchi
Nah, I bet they dump him. He's at M17 west and the best he can do is a 7-8, which SHOULD be grounds for demotion. Regardless, you could be right since the JSA pulls some weird shit out of their ass from time to time.

>>149967415
>Kotoeiho (praise be unto his shiko)
Based Kotoeiho enjoyer.
>>149968177
Yes.

>>149974168
it should be, but only will be if there are enough records in juryo qualified to be promoted above him, which probably will not be the case.