Thread 150297008

Whose idea was it to have fifa in the USA? I couldn't think of a worse place. Canada and Mexico games will be kino though.

>>150297008 (OP)
FIFA wants money, the US is the biggest market where football isn't already really strong. Canada and Mexico are only there because FIFAggots are megalomaniacs who want to one-up everything: more teams, more games, more events, more hosts. A look at the map of hosts shows you that Canada and Mexico are mere appendixes
In a better world, the US would host a 32-team World Cup alone. Their sports culture and so on is interesting, they have the infrastructure. Canada would be a nice co-host, but it's not necessary
This World Cup will be a nightmare on many levels, logistics being a big factor

>>150297158
>their sports culture
They don't have a sports culture, it's all turbo premier league where everything isn't about playing the game but rather making money. Ads everywhere, drama, Netflix shows and shit but never ever about the game itself

>>150297008 (OP)
Huge stadiums and they'll sell every seat. Even with soccer being a minor sport in the US, a small percentage of the fan market is still huge.

>>150297767
>Sold seats = success
Why are you burgers unable to comprehend or recognise soul in any way shape or form? Would you consider American FIFA success if every stadium was sold out and chanting DEFENCE at every opportunity. Selling out seats is the absolute bare minimum.

>>150297894
Did you just ask why FIFA loves money? Do you not know what FIFA is all about?

>>150297999
I wasn't litteraly asking who decided to have fifa be in the USA. The purpose of this thread was to complain that it's a stupid idea.

>>150297894
>using 'FIFA' and 'soul' in the same sentence
at what point do you admit "soul" just means "poor"?

>>150297158
>Their sports culture and so on is interesting
No it isn't, it's made of plastic franchises that hop about whichever cities give them the biggest stadiums

>>150298119
At no point because the counties that are richer than the USA still have soulful fans.

Which one of you made this >>150295227

It's going to be so funny when Trump drops the annex hammer, probably soon after world cup so enjoy that while you can.

>>150298509
>richer than the USA
what fantasy world do you live in?

>>150299032
Switzerland
Norway
Singapore
etc

>>150299066
lmao nope. US has a higher standard of living.

also, none of those countries care about soccer. Norway is hockey country, Switzerland is about mountain sports, and Singapore is baseball.

>>150297323
>They don't have a sports culture
Tell me which of your current clubs was founded before 1875
Or in continental Europe at all?
Because if you dont, since multiple of my locals ones do, you do not get a say in this discussion

>>150299250
>Norway is hockey country
winter olympic sports country, and even then the most viewed sport there is soccer
>Switzerland is about mountain sports
Soccer is the most popular sport there by participation and viewership
>Singapore is baseball
Soccer is the most popular sport by viewership, and I couldn't even find a baseball field there on google maps but I see a bunch of soccer fields tho.

>>150297158
The real question is: does America have the infrastructure and security to receive such an event? Or is it just gonna be americans attending the games?

>>150299567
are you forgetting the fact the US Olympics and World Cup from the 90s were some of the most-attended in their respective histories?

>>150299601
1994 was a novelty event, kinda like NFL matches in Europe. Going by the CWC the novelty is gone, there's interest but not for the price of a NFL match and for foreign fans the trip will cost a arm and a leg.

>>150299601
The US Olympics were all in the same city, obviously the authorities had to temporarily occupy the area, and keep homeless and feral blacks out.
The world cup had mexican race riots and horrible southern heat without any infrastructure to help.

And that was in the 90's, your golden decade. It will be alot worse in 2026

>>150297008 (OP)
>2018 Russia
>2022 Qatar
>2026 USA
It's a tradition at this to pick shitty country

>>150299729
2030 is also a mess with Morocco, Portugal, Spain, Urugua, Paraguay and Argentina and 2034 is in fucking Saudi Arabia

>>150299714
>>150299711
weapons grade cope

>>150299567
Is this being unironic? lol
America is one of the very few countries that large events can be moved to in a moments notice because the infrastructure is already built up
You really have been reading too much /pol/ bot posts if you think otherwise

>>150299917
The infrastructure being stadia and car parks

>>150299917
So tourists will be able to walk into tye stadiums and use public transit, right??

Also, i noticed how you ignored the "security" part.

>>150300043
there is no issue with foriegners accessing stadiums or transit. its not like you need a passport and strip search to hire an urber

>>150300111
The third world is truly a wild place.

>>150300043
>So tourists will be able to walk into tye stadiums
How else are you supposed to get in lol
>And use public transit
Yes, loaded question as each city will vary but you can. The area near me has train transit routes that lead directly from airport to the stadium and depending where your hotel is you do not need to step foot in a vehicle at any point. Others might rely on shuttles, your experience in a northeast city vs Kansas City will vary
>Also, i noticed how you ignored the "security" part.
Because this is a literal non issue do you think the fucking World Cup will have no security lol
We host big events all the time, thousands of them. There is never a single issue. You are not going to see or be in a containment ghetto unless you intentionally seek it out either before you ask.

>>150299250
>US has a higher standard of living.
w-what?
The average america has a lower standard of living than gdp would lead you to believe because the wealth is so unequally distributed.

I just want yuros to experience a tailgate in a parking lot under the hot sun with the smell of asphalt all around you and nowhere to escape to

>>150301947
more weaponised cope, the average Alabaman has a higher standard of living than practically any Eurozoner

>>150297158
I’m amazed they haven’t held it in China yet

>>150297008 (OP)
You wouldn't have any world cup fixtures if not for America. Face it, you live in an American world on our good grace and this planet belongs to me.

>>150299970
And also hotels, airports and other entities that can handle the increased numbers of visitors but you knew that

anybody wanna hang out?

>>150302672
Based on what? Every quality of life measure reports life is better elsewhere.

>>150302672

Then why is america worse at everything ? healthcare, education, work-life balance, vacation time, public transportation, life expectancy, quality of life in general... come on most Americans don't have 5k to their names

>>150303073
I'd love to :)

>>150297008 (OP)
It's not just FIFA, fucking La Liga is moving a league game over here and you can bet Serie A is next.
We are just too good to be stopped.

>>150299601
>90s
It's been 3 decades bro, your demographics have shifted a lot

>>150299838
Next it will be China

>>150297323
We have multiple soccer leagues besides MLS, and USL is creating a new brand that should use pro/rel. NASL used to exist back in the 70’s and helped get soccer off the ground here

>>150302691
Geopolitics stopped them, and China never really pushed for it as much as they could have since they wanted to be "ready". Their plan was to become a serious football nation first, with a strong league and good youth development. But they never got past the "use tons of money on foreign players" stage
If China really wanted, FIFA would try to give it to them. But they are too scared of sucking off China and the US at once and losing both over it, so they focus on the US for now. They've already done a lot of shilling for China (for example by calling them the inventors of football multiple times), but with China and the US getting more aggressive towards each other, the train has slowed a bit

So this is the designated euro cope thread?

>>150303358
They will talk about GDP per capita and then ignore literally every other metric there is

>>150308258
Europe doesn't report certain homicides due to potential racism

>>150309023
Usually those aren't homicides, just rapes.

>>150297008 (OP)
>I couldn't think of a worse place
I can, it already happened in 2014, burgers will be fine

>>150297008 (OP)
This Is going to bankrupt a lot of dumb people
>>150297767
>Huge stadiums
It's terrible, people In the last rows of american stadiums can't see shit; americans go to gossip and socialize

>>150310392
Studies have shown that the best stadium size for crowd comfort and atmosphere is ~45k. Not too big but big enough

>>150298057
Its going to make a lot of money, its as great idea. All professional soccer exists solely to fatten the pockets of the league and team owners

>>150300043
>public transit in the US
lol, lmao even. There are few cities that have working public transit and stadiums that are reachable with public transit but most will require you to have a car to get there. And don't even think about getting an Uber there. Getting there with an Uber most likely works but getting an Uber out after the game means you're paying out the fucking ass for extra super surcharge rate if the Uber driver can even reach the stadium because all traffic will be fucked since there's 70 000 people with about 30 000 cars all trying to leave at once. If you're not paying out the ass for preferred parking expect to spend an hour or two after the game just to clear the parking lot.

>>150297008 (OP)
>Canada and Mexico games will be kino though.
>Canada
>Kino

How? Not trying to be a dick but You guys have Even less of a football culture than the US, i'm sure theres cool shit to see and do in Vancouver and Toronto , but so theres is in American cities

>>150313232
I wasn't being serious. I do think we have more footy culture than the USA though.

>>150299365
football has been played in Europe before the first white man had stepped foot what's today known as the USA

>>150297008 (OP)
They needed to pick a fucking region like the east coast or something. Having games 1000 miles apart is so dumb.

>>150297008 (OP)
Midwest chads we got robbed

>>150297008 (OP)
>Canada
>51

>>150297323
>They don't have a sports culture
Retard. What a stupid fucking comment. Someone teach this dumbass about tailgates

>>150297323
shit bait

>>150297894
Ranjeet FIFA doesn't give a fuck if you sing like a fairy or not, they just want to fill seats. They also ask you not shit in the stadium like you do in your culture

>>150298057
You're a retard. The sooner you realize you're a customer the more rational you can be. No argument is going to prove otherwise

>>150315283
No it hasn't retard

>>150297008 (OP)
>why would anyone host a huge sports event in a country with good sports infrastructure and a lot of wealthy sponsors and customers that isn’t really a football core market yet but has high growth potential?
Gee, I wonder why
The question is: why are Canada and Mexico there? And the answer is that FIFA want bragging rights for hosting an even bigger event. It’s a logistics nightmare. A 32 team tournament only in the US would have been the most sensible option

>>150315447
yes it has you faggot

>>150315341
If you pick the east coast LA, San Francisco, and Dallas will bitch up a storm. If you pick the west coast New York, Boston, and Dallas will bitch up a storm. If you picked places that actually had a natural culture for the sport(almost exclusively the midwest) everyone else would bitch up a storm. There's no winning unless you do the biggest cities in the country and ignore the bitching from 2nd and 3rd tier places.

>>150315520
>LA, San Francisco, and Dallas will bitch up a storm
sounds like a win

>>150297008 (OP)
>no shitcongo

Fuck this mismanaged hellscape

>>150297008 (OP)
>I couldn't think of a worse place.

>>150315489
Tbh yeah the US could have hosted alone, no idea why they chose a joint bid, i mean other countries might need it, the requirements for hosting are crazy not a Lot of countries have the infrastructure in place as the US, México and Canada probablly could but it would cost more than it's worth, is not the same as when we hosted in 70 and 86

>>150315520
None of those cities would "bitch up a storm". FIFA selected the sites that offered them the best deal on hosting games. That's all it is. No one was doing secret squirrel behind the scenes skullduggery to get soccer in their city.

>>150315260
Who the fuck are you kidding right now. Most people in this country don't know we are even co hosting the world cup. The fact you cite USA as an example of a country who shouldn't host it because of lack of passion but think that doesn't apply to us as well is pure comedy. We are probably in the top 5 least passionate countries about soccer on earth

>>150297008 (OP)
>sending Euros to Houston, Dallas, Miami, and Atlanta in the summer

FUCK I hope you Euros drink plenty of water if you go there, it's not fun in the summer in those cities. Especially Houston. God I hate Houston, it's like walking through a swamp every time I visit.

>>150315489
Toronto and Vancouver are basically America anyway

>>150317794
Phoenix is even worse though, right?
I've been to Miami and LA in summer and it was doable
I won't be travelling to the US in 2026, but I am looking forward to hearing complaints about public transport and walking, stadiums being too far outside the actual cities for Euro taste, tap water, tipping, and people ending up in the hood. Surely the weather will play a role as well

>>150326976
Pheonix is hotter but has very little humidity compared to Houston. It's bad but I think humidity + heat is way worse than just heat.

>>150297008 (OP)
better question, why is fifa even in switzerland?

>>150326999
I didn't know Houston was particularly humid, interesting
>>150327036
Switzerland is the gold standard of political stability due to its wealth and neutrality, it's a safe country and there are a lot of tax benefits for organizations like FIFA
Also, Switzerland is located right between various important European nations and isn't large or relevant or culturally distinct enough to make anyone think FIFA is distinctly Swiss. If FIFA were headquartered in Paris still, there's be others bitching about it being French and helping France
It was clear that FIFA wouldn't be headquartered in England or the other British nations since they all did their own thing and felt too cool to hand out with the rest of the continent for years
The question on why Swiss men have been presidents of FIFA without interruption (except for a brief interim phase with limited rights) since 1998 is a different and difficult one, however

>>150297008 (OP)
it's all part of the rest of the world's ongoing effort to try to force us to like soccer

>>150317794
I can imagine NT delegations trying to outbid each other bribing FIFA on which one gets the shady side in Miami's stadium. Seeing that effect in action as an attendee of the Butt Safety game was really something.

>>150327108
The FIFA headquarters should be in Paris. France isn't that passionate about football while rich Swiss people will have bad intentions and FIFA being in Switzerland is convenient for them. Look at how Infantino has been ruining this sport and the World Cup just to squeeze every penny out.

>>150326976
Tap water varies widely by source. My tap water is better than anything on your continent for example, and the source is technically drinkable without any treatment.

>>150331465
>My tap water is better than anything on your continent for example
Where do you live? And you don't put fluoride in there or whatever that stereotypically is? Germany and a few other European countries have a 100.0 EPI tap water quality score, so "better than anything in Europe" sounds a bit ambitious when we're supposed to be at the maximum of what can sensibly be distinguished
Also, nobody said that your tap water is supposedly inferior everywhere. It's just that Europeans are likely to have questions because of this fluoride story, which confuses many

>>150327108
The difference is quite large. In a place like Phoenix, you can mist yourself with water to help keep cool. In places like Houston, at best it might make you stink a bit less from all the sweat. The danger in Phoenix is that you might not realize how overheated you're becoming until it's too late. For sporting events, that's typically a minor annoyance since you can go find some shade and there's medical personnel on hand to assist if you do get overwhelmed. Go out for a hike unprepared and you might not be able to get back to your car for water and cooling.

>>150299567
The games themselves will go well, but foreigners are going to learn really quickly that public transit is basically non-existent in US cities other than New York. Also we have masked brownshirts now who like to rough up anyone who looks too foreign, so I'm sure that'll be great

>>150308258
New world was a mistake

>>150334073
51er why do you act like you're better than Americans? You can't even win a Stanley Cup

>>150334853
The USA hasnt won a Stanley Cup either. Largely due to the fact that the stanley cup cannot in fact be won by a nation

It's fun watching Euros realize that North America is actually kind of a terrifying place compared to their own continent. We even still have megafauna, unlike you guys who killed all yours way back in the Ice Age.

>>150335244
>The USA hasnt won a Stanley Cup either. Largely due to the fact that the stanley cup cannot in fact be won by a nation
Cope

Go Flames Go
:)

>>150308258
>x*tter says murder rate
>image says homicide rate
So which one is it? Murder is a crime, homicide is just killing another human being which might be in self defense

>>150333777
>looks too foreign
No offense, but how can that distinction be made in the US? Assuming these people exist

>>150338233
bmi

>>150297008 (OP)
>This thread

>>150297894
The last world cup went to literal head chopping sand niggers and the only reason there's a CUM world cup is because the FBI under Obama blackmailed FIFA into giving us one.

>>150335244
massive cope

>>150327140
Why did you bid for hosting the world cup then?

>>150335244
Canadians sold out and gave the Stanley Cup to the Americans out of greed, and now you're paying the price by having them steal all of your best players to have them fight for the glory of their respective new cities

>>150299729
Bit rich coming from Poland.

>>150297894
NOOOO MY SAUDI MONEY LAUNDERING SPORT IS PLAYING IN AMERICA INSTEAD OF SOMEWHERE SOVLFVL LIKE QATAR. I know you're brown lmao

>>150358735
NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST PLAY IN BACKWATER CITIES LIKE MONTERREY AND ALANTA. GAMES SHOULD BE IN MANAUS

>>150305673
Saudi Arabia is from the Asian Confederation, which means that China couldn't automatically host in 2038 until the next cycle.

>>150355726
Every single one of my Canadian relatives under 40 has moved here to the states and have no intention of ever moving back. Some of them still have that moral smugness that defines white Canadians but most are simply glad they were able to leave. Those over 40 seem to believe if they just stick things out, everything will magically get better. It's a hollowed out country that's rapidly becoming a Bombay railway station.
On the good side of things, they'll soon be competitive in Cricket and will win the Cricket World Cup long before they ever get the Stanley Cup again.

>>150364666

SI SENORRRR MY ENGLISH IS NO GOOODDDD. I JSUT MOVED HERRE LAST WEEK WITH MYU BEANER FAMILY TO PICK CROPS AND MOW LAWNDS

can we all agree that multi-country world cups are extremely cringe
2030's list of host cities is genuinely the worst thing so far picking any of the countries with cities hosting it and giving that country all of the games would have been much more kino (personally I think Uruguay should have been the sole host)

>>150297008 (OP)
>No games in Chicago
what gives?

>>150374436
They were only going to give 1 midwest city any games and for some reason US soccer is obsessed with Kansas City. Probably because of Lamar Hunt.

>>150374264
Everyone agrees on multi-hosts being shit. Two neighboring countries that are closely tied to each other and aren’t able to host on their own (but not too large) might barely be doable

>>150374436
I heard their stadium is decrepit and can’t fulfill FIFA conditions

>>150374264
My ideal 2030 would be Argentina hosting most of it and then the final being in Uruguay for the 100th year anniversary, the current planned hosting is peak slop.

>>150327140
If you ask 10 football fans in Europe and South America if they want americans to like the sport, 11 of them will want to blow the heads of americans with a pump action shotgun, so no, we don't want you to care about our sport.

Keep enjoying your coommercials, and buy every product shown in the NFL breaks.
Filthy slave.

>>150301947
I'm sure that's what the tell you. Brokies have 3 bedroom 2 bath homes with yards, air conditioning and 2 cars. You can't even comprehend the recreational vehicle budget of lower middle class Americans.

>>150374436
The Kansas city owner is buddies with Trump and bribed fifa. The city is trash and the summer weather is horrible

>>150374783
It's because you faggots know if America wants to do anything, they'll be the best at it. American work ethic is unmatched

>>150297008 (OP)
in the 2010s, the US government decided to investigate and imprison FIFA leaders for "corruption", and then a US-friendly leadership was installed, right on time to promote "soccer" in the US by throwing tons of cash to the cause.

>>150297008 (OP)
Idk man I hate this shit hole I just wanted money

I will go to Seattle, overstay my visa and start working construction

>>150299711
foreign fans will use it as an excuse to sneak into the country and not leave.

>>150299250
Singapura is a cricket nation, its a pajeet country

>>150297323
>>150298197
>euro seethe
KWAB

why do americans like playing sports on fake plastic grass filled with tiny tire debris particles that cause cancer?

>>150393383

They don't but it's cheaper to maintain than grass

>>150397115
Igor Jesus isn't the GOAT. He entered today and didn't move Nottingham Forest from a tie to a win....

>>150374918
~60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and are about one accident away from bankruptcy. What you said might have been true 20 years ago but the amount of money lower middle class Americans have available isn't what it used to be. 2008 and what happened after have been disastrous to the American middle class. GDP and the stock market are both lies. It doesn't matter that they're in all time highs if more than half the people can barely survive.

>Kansas City
lmao

>>150327197
>as an attendee of the Butt Safety game
...pardon?

>>150404711
Igor Jesus isn't the GOAT. He entered yesterday and didn't move Nottingham Forest from a tie to a win...

>>150403111
Yeah unless you have a real job forget it
But it's the same everywhere it's the same everywhere
Unless you own completely without mortgage you're fucked In every country
You can't rent an apartment in Germany, Croatia, Finland, anywhere with the wage of a regular worker
It's all trash

>>150413641
Apartments in some boondocks shit holes don't count
My uncle came in the 80s and worked retail and had an apartment in Manhattan it wasnt exactly the best part but he was there, you can't even do that today
This is the immigration squeeze, the owners reap profits from a higher and higher lying fruit and there is nothing there for us anymore

>>150413641
Most places in Germany are fine, it's certain cities (München, Berlin) that are insane. Rent is doable, but buying/building your own house is almost impossible these days. They aren't building enough in the first place - leftist parties hate the entire concept of houses

>>150297008 (OP)
Philly is gonna be a nightmare. Their public transit is currently being gutted by the state.

>>150374436
I remember reading the mayor at the time didn't want the city to be a host, but I don't remember why.

>>150362455
They can just do some bullshit Australia-China to dodge the region limit, just like they are doing with Morocco by hijacking Spain-Portugal WC in 2030

>>150417490
>China
To be fair they could have outbidden the arabs if they really wanted to, but it seems they stopped giving a fuck about football when their "Super League" collapsed and failed to reach all the goals the chinese government put on them.
Ironically there are rumors that americans want to make a bid with New Zealand in 2038.

>>150299838
tourist and wc, spanish pipo gonna off themselves

>>150392838
Based. This anon knows what's up.

>>150297008 (OP)
Whose idea was it to have the NFL in Europe?

>>150297323
Organized baseball goes back 200 years in various forms.
College football goes back 150 years.

You can talk about something your ancestors did a thousand years ago ... okay. Reality is that culture only goes back a few generations, and evolves with every new generation.

>>150297894
>tf
>"soul"

this is a YLYL thread

>>150301970
Fuck that I'll be WAAALKIN'. I don't care how far it is.

>>150303369
Trvke

>>150403111
I love they feed this cope to yuros and they eat it up. Yes people living in the country with the most disposable income per capita are actually Broke

>>150297323
kek muts are so mad at this truth nuke

>>150297323
amerimutts didn't like this one

>>150297008 (OP)
8 day thread still alive /SP/ IS DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>150421501
We‘re still barely in the Top 10 of boards overall, I believe. Could be worse. Maybe 4chan as a whole is dead

>>150371292
>two or more races

AMERICANS

>>150297323
True. It's incredible how in the super bowl one of the most important highlights are the half-time show and the new "quirky" ads that they get.

>>150297008 (OP)
Let Canada & Mexico have this shit sport.

>>150403111
>60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and are about one accident away from bankruptcy
Not only Americans, but like 90% of the whole world is like this.

>>150413712
>leftist parties hate the entire concept of houses
You can't build a walkable city with houses, chud. You can only do that with apartments that happen to be built and maintained by the people that give me a shitton of money.

>>150421532
it's only this. Most people who still use this site are aged 25 to 35 and getting old enough to move on

>>150315575
The vuvuzelas were SOVL

>>150440830
They truly were
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Coj4yqUJs

>>150297008 (OP)
lmao people are going to see just how much of a shithole Vancouver is.

>>150447196
I bike by BC place a week ago and there were homeless people dumpster diving behind the arena.

>>150371292
Latinos in Texas are based, so it doesn't matter.

>games at 3am
No thx won't watch this shit

>>150364666
>>150371292

no more brother wars

>>150447196
No they won't. Everyone will be cordoned off into touristy areas where there conveniently will be no homeless, no undesirables, hell probably no trash. It's going to happen in all the US cities too.

>>150447196
Consdering Vancouver has like the lowest homicide rate of any city on this list and cool nature I think it will be fine