Thread 150388424

Is Arsenal a bigger club than Aston Villa or Nottingham Forest?

In terms of fans yes, in terms of supporters no

Yes.

>>150388424 (OP)
West Ham European trophies this century : 1

Arsenal European trophies this century: 0

>>150388424 (OP)
No

>>150388567
Arsenal First Division titles: many
West Ham First Division titles: zero

>>150388578
What's your reasoning?
All English people would say Arsenal is the biggest club in the country.

Who gives a fuck

>>150388424 (OP)
it's close with Villa. Forest just had a couple of good years

>>150388424 (OP)
Nottingham Forest is the bigger name of the three OP has listed

>>150388424 (OP)
At the moment yes. You would expect Arsenal to win more times than not against those two.

>>150388424 (OP)
Right now? Yes
Historically? No

>>150388775
i used to respect that club until i saw their fans on spuh and now i hope they get relegated

>>150388812
I used to respect them until I saw their fat Greek nepo baby owner

OP makes this thread at least twice a week and still insists he isn't obsessed with Arsenal
Waits the entire 5 minutes to submit it!

>>150388825
They are still the biggest name of the three listed
>>150388812

yes, but only because their name is more iconic and not not just a boring name of an area or city. arsenal + a cannon is cool branding, if Watford were called "Warlord", they'd probably be the same size

It has lots of American negro customers

>>150388588
Only in Arsenal fans' deluded heads.

Wenger attracted a lot of customers who have enabled Arteta to be the biggest spender. Villa fell behind a lot during those years

>>150388424 (OP)

In terms of international and local supporters yes. Also they've not been relegated this century unlike the other two.

>>150388424 (OP)
Arsenal is unequivocally a bigger club than both Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest across nearly all metrics. Their 13 league titles, 14 FA Cups, and consistent top-flight presence dwarf the trophy hauls of Villa (7 league titles, 1 European Cup) and Forest (1 league title, 2 European Cups). Arsenal’s global fanbase, financial power (top 10 in revenue), and modern infrastructure (Emirates Stadium) far surpass Villa’s regional following and Forest’s more limited resources. Culturally, Arsenal’s influence through the “Invincibles” and Wenger’s legacy outshines Villa’s historical significance and Forest’s Clough-era nostalgia.Aston Villa ranks above Nottingham Forest due to their larger trophy cabinet, stronger financial backing, and recent Champions League qualification. Forest’s back-to-back European Cups are a remarkable achievement, but their smaller fanbase, limited infrastructure, and inconsistent top-flight presence place them third.In summary, Arsenal’s combination of historical success, global reach, financial strength, and current competitiveness makes them a significantly bigger club than Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest. Villa’s resurgence makes them a closer contender than Forest, but neither can match Arsenal’s overall stature in English and world football.

>>150389326
>AI Response
don't care, Nottingham forest is still the bigger name with or without the space.

>>150389092
Traditionally West Ham, Arsenal and Chelsea have only ever seethed about Spurs. West Ham never cared if Arsenal won anything or not and I'm pretty sure Chelsea thought the same.

>>150389145
what does the international supporters trophy look like?

>>150388588
Manchester united could get relegated to the championship and still be a bigger club than 2nd place FC

>>150390333
Yeah, but if they stay in championship for 30 years they're no longer big

>>150390283
Nottingham Forest’s two European Cups are a remarkable feat that ensures their name will always hold a special place in football history. However, Arsenal’s 13 league titles, 14 FA Cups, global fanbase, financial power, and current title-contending status make them a significantly bigger name in every measurable sense. Forest’s legacy is a treasure, but Arsenal’s sustained success, broader reach, and modern relevance make their name resonate far louder, with or without a space in the spelling. To claim otherwise is to prioritize nostalgia over the comprehensive metrics that define a club’s stature in 2025.

>>150388846
>OP makes this thread at least twice a week and still insists he isn't obsessed with Arsenal
they're at the very least a huge club in his empty head

>>150388424 (OP)
In my country at least people know who Arsenal is

>>150388424 (OP)
Not anymore

Logically speaking the biggest club in England is Preston North End
>First division trophy
>Second division trophy
>Third division trophy
>Fourth division trophy
>WWII tournament champion
>Two FA Cups
No Other "major" club has won all four professional leagues.

>>150397610
>No Other "major" club has won all four professional leagues.
Wolves.

>>150397640
Wolves also have a Texaco Cup.
They're clearly the biggest club in Britain.

>>150397726
Preston are the only club to go through an entire season unbeaten BUT without Wolves' dominance in the 1950s, the CL wouldn't exist.

>>150397762
>Preston are the only club to go through an entire season unbeaten

>>150397805
Nope. Arsenal didn't win anything else that season. Preston didn't lose a game in ANY competition.

>>150397610
one of my pet dreams if i become a trillionaire is to juice preston
not right that they're languishing in the championship

>>150397854
yeah but there's an asterisk on that. Nobody except your autistic ass actually ranks that as high as 04

>>150397885
the only thing anyone in england remembers about the drawvincibles is that dive vs portsmouth

>>150397885
>going unbeaten in just the PL is somehow better than going unbeaten in the First Division & FA Cup
You're actually retarded and clearly an Arsenal plastic.

>>150397944
>>150397925
Nobody from those Preston teams would even start on any Prem team today. Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense

>>150398145
Until Arsenal or another team complete an entire season unbeaten in every single competition, they're not better than Preston's Invincibles.

>>150398182
>semi pro team's accomplishments against plumbers and brick layers rated higher than guys playing against the best players in the world

kek truly autistic

>>150398219
Keep on coping. You're embarrassing yourself. Preston's achievement was objectively better than Arsenal's.

>>150388424 (OP)
>bigger club than Aston Villa or Nottingham Forest
>bigger club than Nottingham Forest

Ahahahahahaha. No.

>>150398244
>Keep on coping. You're embarrassing yourself

>>150398219
>Sport is more relevant because now they are overpaid
You might as well say no World Cups matter until 1994, because they came before the Premier League.

>>150398350
He isn't even right with that, Preston's Invincibles were paid professionals.

>arsenal
the spurs of football

>>150398387
I wouldn't expect a Paki to know what semi pro means

>>150398350
They don't because in 1994 the World Cup was finally played in a real country

>>150398739
>I wouldn't expect a Paki to know what semi pro means
I perfectly know what it means and it didn't apply to Preston, or in fact any of the clubs in the Football League at the time. The only person who doesn't know what it means is you.

>>150397640
I remember Steve Bull (and mutch iirc) playing at the Vetch on rainy Tuesday or Saturdays when younhad thatbgraet lower division team. Either division 3 or 4...i think wolves won both around that time without checking?

>26 wins, 12 draws, 0 losses - the only invincible season (Preston does not count)
>14 FA Cups the most
Shut the fuck up. We will always be the best team ever. Cope Shitty, Shiterpool, Lelsea and SCAMnited fans

>>150397854
alright so Preston are the biggest club ever and Arsenal are the second biggest club ever
everyone else third or below

>>150397726
They have a really decent history to be fair mate. There's always been a lot of competition in the English league, so not everyone can win cups all of the time. City and Chelsea liertally bought their success.

The majority of international costumers or bubborters are insufferable. They will never understand why then likes of Preston NE and Wolves are as beautiful as Arsenal or Liverpool. I'm not going to try to enlighten the classless who don't understand this already.

>>150399527
>The majority of international costumers or bubborters are insufferable.
I've been watching the Prem since the 90s. Fuck out of here with your pretentious bullshit. You are a customer and nothing else. Get that through your brown skull

>>150388994
>arse anal
>cool branding

>>150399658
>90s
Newfag

>>150399658
>brown skull
I've been here a long time and watched a lot of British football because I'm an old caaant. You really think I'm brown, Josie?

>>150399685
>Prem created in the 90s
>"newfag"

It's 1am faggot. You should be asleep getting ready for your job....or is it because you don't have a real job kek. Going on the internet trying to feel superior to randoms just because you don't live in Pakistan anymore

>>150399712
Nobody cares Muhammad. Go to bed and get ready for work

>>150399716
No I got rich working all over Europe mate and semi retired at 47 years old. Almost 50 and loving it. Thinking of going back into IT part time but atm schooling international bubborters about British football. Goodnight.

>>150399378
I'm really just being rhetorical.
People forget United got relegated in the mid-70s and their fans were so violent to the minnows it caused a lot of reform laws from Parliament that didn't stop Hillsborough but ultimately started the tradition of laws in stadium construction.

>>150399753
You're really angry. I touched a nerve without even trying. You're chipping out speaks volumes.

>>150399791
>You're really angry. I touched a nerve without even trying. You're chipping out speaks volumes.

>>150399378
Arsenal has constantly bought failure, meanwhile Brighton buys midtable contention every year.

>>150399776
I'm also semi-retired mate. I don't work Saturdays, Sundays and Monday

>>150399818
Igor Jesus isn't the GOAT. He entered yesterday and didn't move Nottingham Forest from a tie to a win.

OP make another thread pal
you can wait the 5 timeout minutes, you're not busy at all

>>150388588
>bigger club in the country
>not even bigger in London
why arseanal fans so delulu?

>>150407152
Igor Fucking Jesus

>>150388424 (OP)
Everyone internationally has heard of arsenal, some have with villa, no one who doesnt follow the sport knows what a Nottingham forest is

I sleep safe and sound in my bed every night knowing in my heart that an Arsenal player will NEVER EVER dirty this beautiful trophy with their mutt hands.

>>150398219
Guess you should wipe out half of Arsenal’s league titles then since they were win pre world war 2

>>150388424 (OP)
Villa, no they shouldn’t be but they are due to Villa’s fall off
Forest, yes, Forest are just the 70’s version of Leicester but way better