Thread 150404123

West Ham, Valencia, Bournemouth, you name it, Europe is full of them.

I mean, what is the fun of being a Getafe fan knowing that your club has no chance of winning shit and that the season will be won by Barcelona/Real Madrid for the 100th time in a row?

There are no high and lows, only mediocrity.

bournemouth has to be a step above the others because the town itself is a forced meme

>>150404123 (OP)
This again bro?

Because Europeans cucked themselves with industrialization. They got uprooted from rural areas and got alienated in cities. Football clubs became proxies for grand purpose and community. This is why until today Europeans have this expectation of familial loyalty to football clubs even extending to the modern age when the clubs have lost semblance as community teams. They get surprised that most people in the world change clubs on a whim, pick only winning clubs, etc not aware that the rest of us have other outlets for socialization. Take me for instance, I am still tied to my rural home and can even in theory get an arranged marriage with an 18 year old rural girl once done flipping city girls. So, the German Bayern cucks are kinda right that the Europeans actually don't care about winning titles. As long as 25,000 of them show up at NPC Filler Team Arena on Saturday they're good for it. It's important to note that we can't understand them either. We don't use football as they do, at best we use national teams for national mobilization but that's it.

>>150404123 (OP)
west ham recently won a trophy chud

>>150404296
I need to note that the situation is slightly different in continental European farmers leagues. See, England has a real club football culture coz it's the home of club football. Only Brazil, Argentina and Algeria come close to this. I guess you could argue Mexico as well but I'm not too sure. There's an organic spread of affiliation and immense pride in the teams representing the particular geography, ethnicity or religion.

Continental European farmers leagues merely have 1 to 3 national clubs that EVERYONE supports with local club as sideshow simply because you need several teams to make up a year long league season. So in places like Spain, Germany they all support Bayern and Real Madrid so don't really mind the twice a season defeats when their hometown club loses to Real Madrid and Barcelona coz it's a win for them. There's no cognitive dissonance. Pain would only be in England but because the club represents more than results they live through it. It's the same way you don't really hate your siblings coz they're not the most beautiful or the smartest or whatever.

>>150404296
Kek
>>150404340
Algeria?

>>150404509
Yeah, Algeria football system was originally regional like England (and Brazil) before coalescing into national league so have much of that still left.

Continental European farmers leagues are like Tanzania or Egypt league where EVERYONE supports 2 clubs and may or may not support the hometown club currently in the top flight. Germany is an extreme cucked situation where only 1 club is historically relevant. Even the Egyptian farmers league with like 5 clubs with fans has Zamalek larping as Ahly rivals.

>>150404123 (OP)
Speak for yourself, we won Europa Pokal recently which will forever be one of my best memories and now qualified for Champions League for the first time through league merit

>>150404123 (OP)
You sir, are a disgusting gloryhunter

>>150404340
Valencia, Bournemouth and West Ham are regional clubs full of villagers. About 3/4s of Mestalla don't live in Valencia proper but are from all over the Communitat. Bournemouth get support from their mostly rural county because they're literally the only club for miles. West Ham is basically Essex FC (with Tottenham spilling into this kind of catchement area).

Getafe are a suburban club and they're a meme for having virtually ZERO fans hence their ads about Getafe tinder and creating homemade porn to get coomers to go there

You're a cuckolded redditor who thinks they're smart

>>150404340
Also Valencia the region and their fans hate both Barcelona and Real Madrid. It's probably one of the few regions where it's pretty common to view both as enemies and not one more likeable than the other. The people who support Real or Barça in Valencia are the canis and sudacas, or in Barças case Levante fans but even some of them despise both Barça and Real

>>150404123 (OP)
Getafe also play extremely anti football. Yes we love a crunching tackle once in a while but when does it get to the point where it ruins the entertainment of the game? Least shots on target, most yellows, least amount of goals scored. Fans actually pay to see this shit

Bournemouth are a step up than these shitheads. Their recruitment is absolutely pitch perfect. Plus the only team in Dorset desu.

Valencia and West Ham are piss poor desu. Reliving the glory days. Both teams have/will have new stadiums soon and they're gonna lose their identity. Thats whats wrong with West Ham and Valencia's owners is prioritizing finances on the new stadium after 16 YEARS of hiatus than players

>>150404764
>Valencia and West Ham
>Reliving the glory days
Imagine comparing Valencia CF and their palamares and pedigree to London club xyz that only serves Essex white flight guys wanting to cosplay as Green Street Kray Twins tribute acts. West Ham is a tiny club compared to VCF.

>>150404296
>Whips you

>>150404123 (OP)
People from these cities support their local club, yes winning the league is unobtainable for them, but they definitely have a shot at the national cup.
If you'd actually visit Valencia you could see how popular the club is locally, tons of people wearing shirts, watching games in bars, watching games live.
For them it's more an activity to do in the weekend, sometimes even a source of local pride/identity.
They wouldnt care about some black/brown niggas prefering EPL.

>>150404746
Are you Spanish? I visited Valencia/Mestalla last year. and was under the impression the club is widely supported in the city, much more so than in the rural areas.

>>150404782
>>150404815
>>150404859
cunt shut the fuck up, god you're annoying

>>150404296
chill

>>150404746
>>150404735
Cope. The title counts prove otherwise. 1 or 2 clubs winning every title ever, including cups which are renowned for upsets is a feature of farmers leagues.

>>150404879
It's a Spaniard twisting himself into a Pretzel to "prove" La Liga is not a farmers league

>>150404884
This dude just appears in any vaguely European-themed thread and posts endless seethe tirades dripping with this completely unwarranted smug smartass attitude. He will never chill. Reply and he will accuse you of being le /pol/ boogeyman and using buzzwords - while using buzzwords and arguing from a racial and cultural perspective
This board could use 50 Croatian-American schizoposters over him

>>150404906
I'm literally entrenched in your memories. Hahahaha. Why? For stating Blundershitga was crap way before football went commercial?

>>150404916
Not for saying it, but for posting it about 61673748 times and pretending to have actual arguments and experiences
You are entitled to your own opinion. But congrats for being able to believe that you are the one in anyone‘s mind rather than being absolutely assblasted about various nations and leagues

>>150404906
The French can say, sure we were not winning UCLs but our league had fair play before Qatar money. Can you say that about Germany? Before 1992 Bayern had 11 league titles (4 runners up) and Monchengladbach 5. Bayern finished top 2 in half the Bundesliga seasons before money and foreign players were they key things in football.

This is the source of this German's butthurt.

>>150404879
sudanese simping for a white """""Kenyan""""" lmao

>>150404939
>opinion
Nuh uh sweetie. It's a fact that Bayern finished top 2 in half the Bundesliga seasons before commercialization.

>>150404939
look at him, he did a great job proving you wrong by.......replying twice to the same post

lmao

>>150404956
He always posts /int/ and /pol/ crap in every thread that is somehow related to Europe, dunno why he seethes about white people so much

>1939: fights two front war against Russian vastness, Colonial empires and American industry
>2025: gets triggered by seeing a Kenyan flag on sp/ol/

>>150404123 (OP)
West Ham, Valencia and Bournemouth have both won trophies this decade

if I start seeing a Saudi flag in every thread here I think I will kys myself desu

>>150404296
>>150404340
What the fuck is this bollocks.

>>150404972
>white people
>let me appeal to the mutt's sensibilities for upvotes even though I'm aware Germany itself needed a cesear character to unite the nation

>>150405013
African cope for not being able to build up their countries to any meaningful degree without express instructions from either whites or chinks.

lmoa

>>150405013
The answer to OPs question on why teams with no trophy success in Europe still have strong fanbase. If you have a better take let's hear it

Why do people take part in local community events wow I dunno, a mystery for the ages

OP here. Can you please focus on my post and stop posting off-topic?

>>150404906
He got daddy issues because the British left his country before they could properly civilize it.

>>150405023
>Median age, 40 years
No thanks

>>150404123 (OP)
We didnt win a trophy for the longest time...then we won Europa while also beating Barca on their home turf.
Now we keep climbing league spots season after season. Success tastes so much sweeter if you arent a plastic customer. Nvm the fact there will always be that drive to see your team of shitters beating the other team of shitters from the opposite end of the country where the people are weird.

>>150404906
He spoke nothing but facts and he is right I just can’t understand why are you seething somehow Europeans always seethe when someone doesn’t compliment them and suck their ass 24/7 get a grip you smug fag

>>150405071
Does anyone there actually make it past 40? or do you all die from AIDS and Dysentery before that?

>>150405051
The /pol/tards came and descended it into racism as usual. Note how not one of them answered your question. Not one.

>>150405077
These guys want all threads to wank to their /pol/ infographics narratives. They can't have an actual discussion.

>>150404123 (OP)
hello which jersey is this does any spaniard have it? i looked up real madrid but it doesnt look as such

>>150404859
I'm not Spanish I'm Belgian but I lived in Spain (including 2 years in Valencia)
VCF is well supported in the city but honestly both Valencia clubs are region-wide in terms of fanbase. And VCF obviously have a much larger one. It's not true that they're a purely urban club. And Valencia like most hype cities is now full of people who either don't care about football or support Barça/Real because they're south American or they're a Cani that takes el Chironguito seriously. If anything the more rural you go the more likely people support a Valencian club (can be Hercules or CD Castellon too, Villarreal have glory hunters and Roigbots). So I was just pointing this out for the idiot with the meme flag.

>>150404123 (OP)
These 4 clubs with maybe the exception of getafe (but this is up for debate) are all stronger than the strongest team in our top league.

>>150405081
>European mindset is still stuck in 1960
How apt. Lol. Africa has more children than Europe has people. Your philosophy leads to long term demographic disaster.

>>150405071
>Median IQ, 40
No Thanks

>>150405116
Kek

>>150405116
>Intelligence can be measured and it highly correlates with being a good wagey
Kek.

>>150405044
>The answer to OPs question on why teams with no trophy success in Europe still have strong fanbase.
is not "Because Europeans cucked themselves with industrialization".

Your posts are constant proof of how being terminally online rots brains. I would suggest getting involved with your local club in Kenya and get away from the internet.

>>150405133
Give us a better fundamental answer bro.

>Kenyan on 4chan butthurt about 4chan
>saudijeet
>croatschizo
The gang's all here

>>150405142
People attend football matches not solely for the game itself, but for the overall experience: meeting up with friends, sharing drinks, chanting, and enjoying the atmosphere. For many fans, the match is almost secondary to the social outing. The exception, perhaps, are English fans, who have a reputation for leaving the stadium as soon as their team falls behind by two goals.
Trophy hunting is mostly an online phenomenon common between 4ners or to stat-obsessed customers.

>The Europeans have still not given their answer to OP
So only thing you guys can do is "Ngubu", "Ronaldo/Messi" and "Current Thing" duly noted. Lmao

>>150405197
You derailed the thread as usual. I struggle to work out why you even post here.

>>150405195
This is what I said though. The roots of that is industrialization. There was no football fandom in the modern sense prior to this. If you look at most countries outside of Europe, the phenomenon is more subdued. People only support the 1-3 national winning clubs that win all the time and stop there. Glory hunting started with overseas broadcast. If you're in Morocco and French Ligue 1 is being broadcasted weekly, there's no basis to support Caen. You will be more drawn to the winning team because at that point you're merely watching football based on what is high quality and what is not. Beyond this there will be a feedback loop where the winning clubs gets more revenue to acquire better players, coaches and admins and retain their position. This process started in Europe. It's no surprise that the league that has been most sheltered from this is English because they have a more robust club culture. Valencia, that the Belgian flag here shills did nothing when La Liga centered itself around 2 clubs. In England, the clubs banded and ditched the FA.

>>150405214
Dude just give your take or go to the Arsenal General or something. Stop with the sideshows. As the Saudi guy said, stop living in this mental bubble where only good things about Europe must be said.

>>150405254
>In England, the clubs banded and ditched the FA.
That has literally never happened. Stop talking out of your ass.

>>150405273
Are you an idiot? Do you know how Premier League was founded?

>>150405283
You mean The Football Association Premier League?
Founded by clubs which resigned from the Football League?
The Football League which is an entirely independent organisation to the FA?

The only idiot here is you as usual. A worthwhile question from OP was completely shat on by you and put everyone else off from contributing to the thread.

>>150405273
I meant the League. Point is the clubs worked together. How old are you?

>>150405318
Sure you meant the league, that's why you deleted your post out of embarrassment.

>>150405304
Stop with the sideshows. You haven't given an answer to OP. Hahaha. You're trying to split hairs instead of addressing OP

>>150405328
I deleted it coz I wanna hear your thoughts on OPs question. Not sideshows

>>150404123 (OP)
My club has hundreds of thousands real fans, we have history to brag about and the belief in returning to these good times as hopium. And that club actually represents my city, my region, even my family due to how my father, grandfather, and great-grandfather supported them. My eyes are on my club, not on anything else. I would like somebody else to beat Bayern and whatever, but as long as we are doing fine and improving slowly but surely, I am fine. It’s really not hard to understand.
People only cheering for success are called bandwagoners and plastics. They are lower lifeforms and usually have no actual clue

>>150405335
You're the sideshow attraction, everyone finds you a complete joke. OP is pissed off anyway (>>150405051); doubt he's even still here because of you.

>>150405350
Stop lying you stupid cunt and trying to deflect from being the sole reason the thread derailed.

>>150405360
Lol. OP literally responded to my answers earlier before you racists showed up.

Now answer the question. Else, you can also admit that you've never thought deeply about such things, that you only stick with the sports news cycle roller coaster and be humble to learn. There's no shame.

>>150405381
>OP literally responded to my answers earlier
I didnt, though.

>>150405391
>>150404509
Okay goodbye. Keep your circle jerk.

>>150404123 (OP)
>Because it's their local club

>Their favourite player might have played for the club

>The club used to be good in their childhood but now it's ass but, they still support it

>They're just some virtue signalling American twat who supports Bournemouth because everyone else in Muttmerica supports a big team and they just want to be different despite not being able to find Bournemouth on a map

>>150405381
>OP literally responded to my answers earlier before you racists showed up.
A Brazilian replied with a two word post of zero substance apart from laughing at you. Like we all do.

>Else, you can also admit that you've never thought deeply about such things, that you only stick with the sports news cycle roller coaster and be humble to learn. There's no shame.
You're a judgmental little prick, aren't you? I can tell you have no friends, your attitude is dogshit.

The answer to OP's question is obvious and others have answered it already, >>150405352 said what I was going to say on the matter.

I'm guessing the concept of being loyal to your local club doesn't exist in Kenyan football and you all just bandwagon the most successful clubs in your country. Else you wouldn't be so perplexed by the entire thing and derail it.

>>150405407
>gets told otherwise
>runs off crying like a baby
You are absolutely fucking pathetic.

>>150404123 (OP)
You are wrong about there being no highs and only lows. HSV went through a lot of shit but would you see stuff like this in Anfield or the Etihad or the Bernabeu or Camp Nou? Im surprised a Brazilian doesn't understand why people from football crazed countries support their football clubs in sometimes maybe even a fanatical manner.

>>150405391
Kek based

>>150404598
How many local lads in the team?

>>150405013
Asspain from the Mau Mau rebellion

>>150404123 (OP)
Dont bunch european royalty Valencia with these other clubs, 2 CL finals, Europa League title, lots of domestic titles

>>150405451
Those stadiums have upper tiers where most of the fans are concentrated and also have more numerous match day stewards. In contrast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQoX0OYFUC0

>>150404340
retard take, for example in Germany, you can have a random 20k town have a big support in the town and a somewhat big ultras section. Same thing is more or less true in the other germanic countries and italy

I love Getafe because of Bordalas, if they keep this identity when Bordalas is gone they will habe my support

>>150406420
He genuinely doesn’t know anything about Germany, but he’s unwilling to acknowledge that. Alemannia Aachen had an average attendance of 27,000 in the fourth tier playing against villages and reserve teams. Hamburg spent seven miserable years in the 2nd tier and still received enormous fan support, easily selling each home seat in the stadium every time. No league has fan attendance across the board like the German leagues, every city with a somewhat relevant club is filled to the brim with fans of said club. Having 100,000 organized fans is nothing special in German pro, and that’s without the normal sympathizers. He pretends all Englishmen support their local lads while everyone in Germany supports Bayern - it couldn’t be further from the truth. As if there aren’t bandwagoners in England
He hates the Bundesliga because Bayern always wins. Fine. He seethes about it all the time. Fine. He’s unwilling to accept Germany as a great football nation despite all of our titles. Retarded, but fine. But he makes up stuff about fan support and pretends it is undeniable fact. No idea what his problem is

It's incredible how I knew in advance that OP was from a worthless turd world country. Wandecleison proudly wears his counterfeit Real Madrid 2025-26 third kit as he marches on the unpaved streets of his neighbourhood. He can't wait to tell his coworkers at the stolen car store about Vinicius Júnior's goal against Real Olviedo (who would even support such a club???)

>>150406923
He's a glory hunting negroid

>>150404123 (OP)
it's not about winning or losing, it's about they friends we make along the way

>>150404559
>kenyanon goes one day without mentioned egypt challenge: impossible

>>150404123 (OP)
i know a lot of older generations who'd support clubs because they had a favourite player or just liked the kit or something, my dad was mad for chelsea even though he'd never been to london
but you usually support your local club

>>150404340
>I guess you could argue Mexico as well but I'm not too sure
Nah, America and Chivas are bigger than most other clubs even in their own city. For example teams like Puebla, Queretaro, San Luis and others struggle with attendance but as soon as Chivas or America comes to town the stadiums get full with shirts of those two clubs. Mexico used to atleast have some parity when it comes to title winners but these past years the TV conpany that owns America and also has TV rights to most of the league has been rigging for America wins since that's what generates the most revenue through TV ratings, trying to turn the league Bundes tier just to squeeze out a few more pennies.

>>150404123 (OP)
>Valencia
>Mid club
you need to be over 18 to post here

kek thirdies love to seethe about Europe

People who support clubs that are favorites to win silverware fail the white test.

>>150404340
Why do so many people compulsively reply to this dumb monkey's borderline retarded takes?

>>150411719
People who support any club outside their hometown local club don't pass the humanity test. Luckily for me my local club is the best American club of all time

>>150404123 (OP)
Its for people with fathers, you wouldn't understand

>>150413000
Igor Jesus isn't the GOAT. He entered yesterday and didn't move Nottingham Forest from a tie to a win.

Nice trips.