>>150409190 (OP)
You must be shitposting, I have yet to see anyone complain about the Bundesliga when it comes to Gündogan, De Bruyne, Haaland, Szoboszlai, Son, van de Ven ... or Firmino, Ballack, Kompany and so on if we want to go further back
But I still have to say that the Bundesliga looks pretty grim this season in terms of play style. The overall quality isn't too impressive. Bayern are far away from CL title material, especially compared with the standard they have set in the 2010s. Dortmund are weaker and more weakmind than ever. Leverkusen has been completely torn apart. Leipzig has already been on the way down for a few years now. Frankfurt and Stuttgart have been improving during the last years, but they still aren't reliable. Freiburg will never be more than sparring partners for any serious club, Mainz even more so. Wolfsburg and Hoffenheim also haven't impressed anybody in years. Gladbach and Bremen are nothing but mediocre anyway. The entire rest are bums anyway, with Hamburg and Köln are large clubs with plenty of potential - but they just got promoted again and will not be a factor for years to come, they must slowly climb the ladder again
Most teams don't look strong at all in total
