Thread 150419323

>get second place after being humiliated by Bayern
>your star coach joins Real
>hire Erik Ten Hag in his stead
>your most important players and most of your starting eleven have fucked off already with more to come
>only sign shitters and unproven pace babies as their replacement
name bigger downfall of a club in recent decades

The good thing about being a football club from Germany is that no matter how much you fuck up you'll be never be as kwabbed as Dirtmumd

>>150419323 (OP)
They're just doing a transition season and cashing in on their assets while they are still worth their peak. IMO it's a smart move by the board to just write a season off and have a huge warchest as opposed to doing what BVB did which was hold on to washed or overrated players who over performed and eventually not get much value out of them to be able to compete financially with Buyern

>>150419438
>buying Quansah for €35m
>'smart'

>>150419438
in principal, you are right. however their "rebuilding" process already looks like a failure
they haven't signed a single player that looks like he can replace any of the starters that have left
not to mention severely downgrading with their new coach

>>150419323 (OP)
dont forget these losers will represent us in th Championsleague. Another Stuttgart tier humiliation ritual incoming.

Why is there so much disdain for leverkusen? Is it all just buyern bandwagoners who are mad leverkusen took one of buyern's annual dinnerplates 2 years ago?

>>150419680
they are the original Leipzig-Hoffenheim.
Leverkusen is not a real city.

>>150419323 (OP)
They literally won the league last year that earned them enough goodwill for at least 30 years

>>150419323 (OP)
The season has barely started, you fool. They are cashing in and have some interesting new players. I would like them to fall hard, but you better wait until at least the 10th matchday to pretend they are already done

For me, it's Hamburger!

>>150419680
Far from it, this is way way older than this one season rivalry they had with Bayern
Leverkusen is a 50+1 exception. They are like Wolfsburg, Leipzig, and to a degree Hoffenheim. That’s what people hate them for, they are not seen as genuine clubs because they always depended on a single company. Bayer Leverkusen is a bit more complicated since they were founded in 1904, starting out as a recreation activity team for Bayer factory workers. The company only realized they could make money with the club in the mid-70s. That’s when they started to pump money into the club, that’s when the club started to become relevant, and that’s when the other and more established clubs and fans began to hate them
Leverkusen itself is an industrial area only, it is basically owned by Bayer. It’s right between Cologne and Düsseldorf, both of which have relevant clubs. Leverkusen still has few fans, especially outside of Leverkusen itself. Many people view them as a nuisance, as a club that doesn’t contribute anything to the Bundesliga and only blocks more popular and traditional clubs like Köln from success in the region. All because of one company helping and owning them

>>150419871
Yeah alright but they have 1(one) league title.
It's not like city or psg who spent trillions and as a result now have a dozen. Plus the entire team seems to have been dismantled over the summer, I don't get the threat/seethe ratio.

>>150419680
>Leverkusen is a small and very unspectacular city basically only serving as an industrial site for a single company, Bayer
>located in a region filled with large cities, many of which have pretty popular football clubs: Köln, Düsseldorf, Gladbach, Duisburg, Essen, Wuppertal, Oberhausen, Aachen, Schalke, Dortmund, even Bonn
>the club itself is owned by Bayer and has zero history without them, only appearing in the top tier decades after the traditional powerhouses
>as property of Bayer, they are in the same tier as Leipzig, Wolfsburg, and Hoffenheim: clubs that don’t adhere to 50+1, the rule that says clubs must be fan-owned. That rule is very popular with fans across the country, and being an exception to it makes everyone hate you since you have a financial advantage
>little overall fan culture, as opposed to the regional rivals they have eclipsed thanks to Bayer money
There’s just nothing to them. People liked that somebody finally stopped Bayern, but that team being Leverkusen hurt a bit. They are plastic and culturally insignificant. The squad was good, and Leverkusen does have more history than RB Leipzig and so on. But you can’t expect anyone not from Leverkusen to like that club, they are corpodogs

>>150419969
They simply have become very smug now. Many other fans hope they will finally shut up after a decline. But thanks to Bayer, we will never get rid of them. I don’t even see that many people here talk about them, and irl reactions are more about rolling your eyes and wishing they lose instead of actually talking about them. That is another difference compared to actual big clubs that don’t have a sugar daddy owner. People talk about Köln being newly promoted way more than about Leverkusen

>>150419832
Patrician choice
The league needs them. But they have a long way to go now that they are finally back

>>150419832
spee's team will forever be >schalke

>>150420284
You know it

>>150419323 (OP)
what do leverkusen fans think of the Lucas Vazquez signing

>>150420055
>clubs must be fan-owned
club-owned to 51%, innit? otherwise correct take

>>150420739
I didn’t want to spell out everything, but 51% means that the fans hold overall control after all. And there are special cases like Dortmund who separate entities and hold 100% in one to sell more than 50% in the other. So I just said fan-owned, I obviously didn’t mean 100%

>>150420680
>Leverkusen
>Fans

>>150420680
All 27 of them are probably busy right now

wirtz is shite though

>>150419323 (OP)
Man utd and it's not even close, imagine farming the league for so long that you still make more money from sponsorships than the current champions despite finishing 15th

don't worry lucas vazquez will casually save leverkusen

>>150421866
save from what tho? they made +200 mio plus this window alone.

>>150420090
this is such a cope its not like leverkusen get any money that isnt their own revenue and you german semen slurp 50+1 fags are so gay
YES MUNICH CHADS KEEP RAPING OUR TEAMS AND TAKING OUR PLAYERS WE HATE COMPETITION
>People talk about Köln being newly promoted way more than about Leverkusen
you know this not to be true loser

>>150422690
Clueless icenigger, keep seething. Köln is still much larger than Leverkusen. And 50+1 is only flawed because of exceptions like Leverkusen. Without Bayer, the club wouldn’t be shit - they receive dozens of millions that the club didn’t work for. It’s moved from one Bayer asset to another for commercial reasons
If we opened everything up, all the suits would flock to Bayern anyway. But keep cheering for multi-ownership networks

>>150419871
Wolfsburg looks like an incredibly nice place to live and work, the aquatic centre with bar right next to the water to the water caught my eye, as did the artificial lake and beach
Even the commieblocks (I suppose facistblocks) are clean and colourful

>>150424092
The wolfburg’s wolves had a coach named wolfgang wolf in the early 2000’s.

>>150424149
That's just nice