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Anonymous United States No.150687578 [Report] >>150687659 >>150687719 >>150687865 >>150688400 >>150688727 >>150690113 >>150691964 >>150698957
>Kosovo
spain doesn't recognize them as a country (maybe some others too)
what happens if they play each other?
Anonymous Canada No.150687605 [Report] >>150687636 >>150687686 >>150687686 >>150687892 >>150688912
>thirdies dont recognize kosovo either
What's going on here?
Anonymous Ireland No.150687617 [Report] >>150687634
They don’t have to be a country to have a representative soccer team
Anonymous United States No.150687634 [Report] >>150687662 >>150687801 >>150689943
>>150687617
they represent the nation state of kosovo, if you recognize the team you recognize the country implicitly.
Anonymous Ireland No.150687636 [Report]
>>150687605
>no key
gay map, do better plz
Anonymous Spain No.150687659 [Report] >>150687686 >>150691260 >>150692323
>>150687578 (OP)

it already happened
Anonymous Ireland No.150687662 [Report] >>150687709
>>150687634
No they don’t. They represent the Kosovo Football Association. Retards like you shouldn’t make threads
Anonymous United States No.150687686 [Report] >>150687748 >>150691455
>>150687605
>>150687605

>>150687659
kek that's so petty
Anonymous United States No.150687709 [Report] >>150687759
>>150687662
no they dont you stupid mick, they're called the NATIONAL team for a reason. they're CONTROLLED by the football association but they represent the NATION state hence NATIONAL team.
lay off the whiskey
Anonymous Romania No.150687719 [Report] >>150687736 >>150688221
>>150687578 (OP)
we dont recognise them either
>what happens if they play each other?
they chimp out crying muh racism of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTNdHEZLL8Y
what else can you expect by a ''''country'''' created by hillary clinton?
Anonymous United States No.150687736 [Report] >>150687792
>>150687719
why don't romanians recognize them?
Anonymous Spain No.150687748 [Report] >>150687805
>>150687686
green = globohomo muslim alliance
Anonymous Ireland No.150687759 [Report] >>150687805
>>150687709
Retard, the four home nations aren’t nation states. Go read a book, you don’t have a fucking clue about this topic
Anonymous Romania No.150687792 [Report] >>150687819 >>150690583
>>150687736
We have our own hungarian ethnic enclave right in the middle of the country and the've had separatist tendencies in the past. The conflict's frozen since 1990. If we recognize Kosovo we'd have to recognize the hungarians too.
Anonymous Spain No.150687798 [Report] >>150687819
Spain stands with Serbia
Spain stands with the Karađorđevićs
Spain stands with a Kremlin-alligned but not hostile-to-EU Serbia led by President Vucic
Anonymous Ireland No.150687801 [Report] >>150687862
>>150687634
Kosovo is not a nation, 95% of it is part of the Albanian nation. Roughly 5% at the top of Kosovo is Serbo-Croatian.
Anonymous United States No.150687805 [Report] >>150688304
>>150687759
>muh autistic grandfathered in home nations for bongs
irrelevant, for the rest of the world your team = your nation state


>>150687748
>half the muslim countries aren't greens
smartest moor
Anonymous United States No.150687819 [Report] >>150687880 >>150687915
>>150687792
oh you're like spain and their autism about catalonia then
speaking of spanish autists
>>150687798
Anonymous Croatia No.150687862 [Report] >>150687990
>>150687801
there are no Croats on Kosovo except some small Janjevci villages, and that's not in the north
Anonymous Switzerland No.150687865 [Report]
>>150687578 (OP)
Internationally and geopolitically spain is not important.
Anonymous Spain No.150687880 [Report] >>150687896
>>150687819

t. Tyler Xohxaj
Anonymous United States No.150687892 [Report]
>>150687605
Tldr Countries in Russia/China spheres of influence or countries with their own separatist movements
Anonymous United States No.150687896 [Report] >>150687943
>>150687880
no idea what this is supposed to mean but my blood is nw european
i just find it funny how autistic you are about seperatists even attacking old ladies at protests
Anonymous Romania No.150687915 [Report] >>150687934 >>150688005
>>150687819
you're literally living in a country that broke away from Britain. D'ya think british people wanted you to break away from their empire?
Anonymous United States No.150687934 [Report]
>>150687915
why is spain the only western european country with the problem of sepratists? while also being the poorest lol
also they oppress the basque for centuries, they should have their own nation
Anonymous Spain No.150687943 [Report] >>150687959
>>150687896
160 years ago half your country attacked the other half that wanted to secede and be on its own. No mildly functioning country tolerates unilateral secessions. Why do Americans want foreign countries to be split in a myriad countries but they insist in keeping Alaska, California and North Carolina under the same banner?
Anonymous United States No.150687959 [Report] >>150687993 >>150687998
>>150687943
but why are you the only one with this problem? germany, france, italy, etc dont have it. do you even allow the Catalonians and Basque to vote on independence?
Anonymous Italy No.150687965 [Report]
chikaner thread, do not engage
Anonymous United States No.150687986 [Report]
let them leave, spain
Anonymous Argentina No.150687989 [Report]
why do yuros always fail for the most obvious chikaner baits
Anonymous Ireland No.150687990 [Report] >>150688117 >>150688325 >>150688339 >>150699150
>>150687862
Croats, Bosniaks, Serbs and Montenegrins all constitute a singular Nation. This is one thing Tito got dead wrong. Serbo-Croat is a term mainly used in linguistics because it's literally the same language and language is the primary basis of Nationhood.

Genetic testing has also shown that these four groups have an identical genetic origin, which simply compounds the basis of singular Nationhood. This Nation does not include Slovenia as their language is not mutually intelligible (and no, obscure dialects with some differing words does not constitute a separate language).

Having a different religion or language script is also not the basis of Nationhood. The Albanians themselves showed this with the late 18th Century Romantic Nationalist movement exemplified by the poetry of Ember Pasha. The Albanians, in contrast, has a completely different genetic origin and Albanian is it's own branch of the Indo-European languages. This is why 95% of Kosovo belongs to Albania.
Anonymous France No.150687993 [Report] >>150688008
>>150687959
We had basque, breton and corsican separatist terrorism in the 70s and 80s. We don't anymore because the cultures are getting destroyed and americanised so nobody cares anymore. I assume Spain hasn't fully gone through that process yet
Anonymous Spain No.150687998 [Report] >>150688008
>>150687959
Do you really expect me to believe you are a Tyler McKenzie from Wichita while knowing stuff only Latin Americans who hate Spain would know?
Anonymous Romania No.150688005 [Report]
>>150687915
Might have to be with the fact that spain was united much earlier than the rest of western europe, which was divided into mini-states/states/duchies and for those unity became a common goal in the 19th century. Austro-Hungary had a lot of separatist movements that turned into full blown countries. Polish separatists existed even when Poland wasnt on the map.
Anonymous United States No.150688008 [Report] >>150688056
>>150687993
>terrorism
freedom fighters*

>>150687998
i learn things from /int/
and no my surname is not irish
Anonymous France No.150688056 [Report] >>150688085
>>150688008
Would you support texan independence?
Anonymous United States No.150688085 [Report]
>>150688056
>get rid of 20M mexicans and a bunch of zionist white trash
prob better to kill a lot of them and keep the oil
this isn't part of the discussion tho because spain isn't a real country anyway they signed away their sovereignty to the EU
Anonymous Ireland No.150688117 [Report]
>>150687990
*19th
**Enver

Fuck's sake.
Anonymous Kosovo No.150688221 [Report] >>150689392
>>150687719
You are a nigger
You always chimp out when we play you in Romania
We never chimp out when you play us in Kosovo

You fags literally chimp out more than actual Serbs
Anonymous Ireland No.150688304 [Report]
>>150687805
It’s not irrelevant and there are other football associations in FIFA that aren’t nation states besides the home nations. I don’t think you understand what grandfathered in means either, but you are retarded so it doesn’t matter
Anonymous Kosovo No.150688325 [Report]
>>150687990
>The Albanians, in contrast, has a completely different genetic origin and Albanian is it's own branch of the Indo-European languages.
BTW here's a redpill for you
Indo-Europeans/Aryans = Y-DNA/Haplogroup R lineages only(in particular R1b and R1a sub-branches)

Most of Balkans(including ''Albanian Territories'') is minority R1 lineages, hence why we are so inferior to West Europe

On that note true Albanians(R1b IE lineages) are of course also on the minority with only about 20%
Anonymous Croatia No.150688339 [Report] >>150688373 >>150688735
>>150687990
so are Irish actually English/British today? since 100% of you speak English and like 0.1% speaks Irish natively
Anonymous Ireland No.150688373 [Report]
>>150688339
nta but the far right retards over here are the exact same as the far right retard British equivalent, whatever he tells you
Anonymous Germany No.150688400 [Report] >>150688526 >>150689050
>>150687578 (OP)
Kosovo shouldn’t exist
It should just be Albania. It’s a ridiculous situation, almost as terrible as the one we Germans (across various nations) still have
Anonymous Croatia No.150688526 [Report] >>150689050
>>150688400
it probably will be one day, but not soon
Anonymous Sweden No.150688715 [Report]
Exactly, Kosovo is not an ethnicity so it should preferably be Albania, Serbia or split along ethnic lines.
Anonymous Brazil No.150688727 [Report]
>>150687578 (OP)
There are three things a spaniard HATES: shrimps, bulls and pagans.
Anonymous Ireland No.150688735 [Report] >>150688957 >>150690048
>>150688339
>so are Irish actually English/British today?

No, because the Insular Celts have been around in this part of Europe for far longer than the Germanics, and as long as the Irish language still exists this represents the basis of the Irish Nation (along with a shared genetic, culture and community).

This is also the basis of Welsh Nationhood, the concept of a "shared British heritage" is about as nonsensical as the concept of a "shared Hispaniola heritage" between the people of Haiti and the Dominican Republic (Sri Lanka, Papua, etc.). The very concept of "Britishness" is based on Germanic expansionism into historic Celtic territory and is inherently chauvinistic.

The reason why you share a Nation with Serbs and Bosniaks is the same reason Czechs share a Nation with Slovakians - linguists almost use the term Czechoslovakian (ie: they are mutually intelligible). Again, genetic testing has shown that they have the exact same origin, ergo they comprise a singular Nation and should have a Unified State.

Tito would have been far better off if he simply granted independence to the Slovenians (the only Internal Republics within the Federation which had properly drawn-up borders), handed Kosovo over to Hoxha, given Macedonia to Bulgaria (which he strongly considered back in 1947), handed some of Vojvodina to Hungary (but not all), and had a stable, smaller Yugoslavia that would actually outlive him.

>A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.
Anonymous Sweden No.150688807 [Report] >>150688843
Why are there no serbs itt?
Anonymous Netherlands No.150688843 [Report]
>>150688807
It's surprising when not even the Serb is stupid enough to fall for Chikaner bait.
Anonymous Colombia No.150688908 [Report]
Imagine having Bill Cljnton as your founding father lmao
Anonymous Brazil No.150688912 [Report] >>150688937 >>150688995 >>150689062 >>150689787
>>150687605
We opened our door for some Krauts back when they turned their country into a shit hole during WW1 and WW2, but instead of trying to assimilate into the culture they flocked to the whitest part of Brazil and now their offsprings act extremely hostile towards the rest of the country.

Brazil has a clean history against separatism, so if they get uppity and try to break away with our land we will commit the biggest Germanic genocide in modern history, we always crushed our separatist movements.

We can't recognize separatist nations.
Anonymous United States No.150688937 [Report] >>150688974 >>150689834
>>150688912
those are the only white people your pardo shithole has, they're the only brazilians who are actual human beings

you are a filthy brown mongrel subhuman, south brazil is the only decent part of your shithole
Anonymous Ireland No.150688957 [Report]
>>150688735
Again, a few mistakes :

*shared genetic heritage
**linguists almost exclusively use
***Internal Republic
Anonymous Brazil No.150688974 [Report] >>150689006
>>150688937
Keep crying from your basement you pasty cracker.
If they dare, we're dropping blue eyed blonde crackers left and right and there's nothing your pasty honky ass can do about it lmaoooo I'm getting a kill streak
Anonymous Germany No.150688995 [Report] >>150689361 >>150689834
>>150688912
Are you sure you aren’t exaggerating?
This doesn’t sound very believable at first glance
Anonymous United States No.150689006 [Report]
>>150688974
kek seething ape
Anonymous Kosovo No.150689050 [Report] >>150689221 >>150689273 >>150690227
>>150688400
And then have all the investments go to Tirana instead of Prishtina?
No thanks. The financial situation is already bad enough.
And most of us don't want to join Albania, we didn't fight so hard for so long just to become part of Albania.


>almost as terrible as the one we Germans (across various nations) still have
So you want Switzerland and Austria to be German clay?
You should consider the strategic advantages of German people having 3 separate countries

And btw Austria and Switzerland are not nearly as cucked as you politics-wise nowadays, so why would they ever agree to that?

>>150688526
Fuck no we won't
Anonymous Kosovo No.150689062 [Report]
>>150688912
Are you sure they weren't (((Krauts)))?
Anonymous Ireland No.150689221 [Report] >>150689354
>>150689050
>And then have all the investments go to Tirana instead of Prishtina?
>No thanks. The financial situation is already bad enough.
>And most of us don't want to join Albania, we didn't fight so hard for so long just to become part of Albania.

This is an incredibly sad mentality, that you're more hooked on subsidies from Western Europe than the idea of being part of a Unified Nation.

Wait until you turn into Croatia - losing 10% of your population to Western Europe only for the Western Bourgeois to replace them with a load of Indians and people from SEA.

>also, I somehow confused Enver Pasha with Pashko Vasa
Anonymous Germany No.150689273 [Report] >>150689452
>>150689050
I didn’t say they need to join us and follow our politics. You probably assume that because of the name „Federal Republic of Germany“, as if this dictates that our state swallows theirs. I only give a shit about our state as far as it protects our people, and it’s evidently not very good at that. I would love to get rid of our state for a union of all German-speakers, but the name of such a state has to be Germany of course, the other names don’t make sense
Regarding Kosovo and Albania: interesting. I see your point. My reasoning is just the shared language etc. And basically all the diaspora here say they are „Kosovo-Albanians“ and root for both. Maybe it’s a typical diaspora thing?
Anonymous Kosovo No.150689354 [Report]
>>150689221
>This is an incredibly sad mentality, that you're more hooked on subsidies from Western Europe than the idea of being part of a Unified Nation.
There won't be a difference on that. Even if we became part of Albania, (((the EU))) and the (((US))) will probably always have a chokehold on us.
And do you think Serbia will just somehow magically accept Kosovo going to Albania? No.

The idea of Kosovo joining Albania is a childish fantasy in every way.
Anonymous Brazil No.150689361 [Report]
>>150688995
Yeah, whatever. But they were vocal though, ten years ago, extremely minor group, less than 2% of the people in the south, but still vocal.

I don't know why the federal government doesn't recognize Kosovo, maybe they just don't care. Or since we're in the Russian sphere of influence, we won't.
Anonymous Romania No.150689392 [Report] >>150689565
>>150688221
>romania plays in kosovo
>people at the stadium yell our ethnic slurs constantly, throw bottles on the pitch, insult players going to the lockers and generally act like antagonistic monkeys
>kosovo plays in romania
>players do nothing but foul all the time, perpetually insult the crowd, throw a tantrum and leave the pitch when a few people in the crowd banter back and then make a complete mess in the locker room, even breaking doors and benches

The "rivalry" you have with us is completely artificial and you have a bigger victim complex than the Jews even though you're even bigger scumbags.
Anonymous Kosovo No.150689452 [Report] >>150689525
>>150689273
No, it's not just a diaspora thing
We root for both teams here too, but Kosovo becoming part of Albania is a different thing
After a hundred plus years of being divided, us Albanians of Kosovo have our own identity.

As for Germany I mean that jews have too much influence on German politics and the EU.
Switzerland famously refuses to be part of the EU for one.
Union is always touted as a strength and division is always touted as weakness, but I don't find that to be necessarily true.

There are advantages to being divided.
One big country can be really powerful, but it can also fall much easier compared to 3 smaller countries for example.
Anonymous Ireland No.150689525 [Report] >>150689613
>>150689452
>After a hundred plus years of being divided, us Albanians of Kosovo have our own identity.
Anonymous Kosovo No.150689565 [Report] >>150689626
>>150689392
Yeah, it's completely artificial from your part
We don't give a shit about Romanians, but you have a hateboner for us for zero reason at all
At least with Serbs it makes sense, Romanians are just a bunch of fucking schizos

If (((UEFA))) were fair they would have given us the victory for that abandoned match, but instead they reward you apes for saying kill Albanians.
UEFA obviously are anti-Kosovo and I guess anti-small countries in general. They only care about how many shekels they make.
Anonymous Kosovo No.150689613 [Report] >>150689668
>>150689525
Don't you Irish have a somewhat similar situation with ROI and NI?
Anonymous Romania No.150689626 [Report] >>150689688
>>150689565
We never gave a shit about you and still don't. You literally chimped out every time we played for no reason.
>saying kill Albanians.
Didn't happen but I wish it did.
Anonymous Ireland No.150689668 [Report] >>150689762
>>150689613
No. We never stopped wanting a 32 County Republic. It's actually one of the main reasons why I took interest in Albania, Yugoslavia and the Kosovars in the first place - I think Albania is the most similar Nation to Ireland in Eastern Europe.

Pic related, we never stopped pushing for a United Ireland. We never will.
Anonymous Kosovo No.150689688 [Report] >>150689785
>>150689626
Clearly your crowds do, otherwise they wouldn't chimp out

>You literally chimped out every time we played for no reason.
False bullshit.
Your players provoked our players first

And your crowds alwayd chimped out like Serbs, while our crowds never did
Anonymous Kosovo No.150689762 [Report] >>150689945
>>150689668
But the reasons for the division are very different
We were divided by the (((Great Powers)))

There are still a lot of Albanians who want the Union(and there is a fringe Ultranationalist Greater Albania movement who want even parts of Montenegro and Macedonia where Albanians reside) but I would say it's a divisive topic.

Perhaps because even historically there has always been a division and rivalry between North(Ghegs) and South Albanians(Tosks).... but also because we fought so hard for our freedom and independence these last hundred years especially so the idea of us suffering for so long only to become part of another country feels like an insult and a slap to the face
Anonymous Romania No.150689785 [Report] >>150689882
>>150689688
Our crowds were way more behaved than yours even though your players planned the whole thing out to bait them in hopes of winning the game through a UEFA decision which backfired.
Anonymous Brazil No.150689787 [Report]
>>150688912
BASED.
Anonymous Brazil No.150689834 [Report] >>150689948 >>150690046
>>150688995
>Are you sure you aren’t exaggerating?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_South_Is_My_Country

They are few and most are very halfhearted, but the loud minority is annoying as shit, the other anon is correct.

>>150688937
And what are (You), Timothy DeCarlos LeMuttius III, gonna do about it?
Anonymous Kosovo No.150689882 [Report] >>150689979
>>150689785
>Our crowds were way more behaved than yours even though your players planned the whole thing out to bait them in hopes of winning the game through a UEFA decision which backfired
>Implying Albanians are that smart
Take your fucking meds
Anonymous Japan No.150689943 [Report]
>>150687634
Japan doesn't recognize North Korea as a country since the US and South Korea see South Korea's govt is the only legitimate govt of Korean peninsula but it doesn't matter when it comes to sports. We play each other from time to time.
The real question is what would happen if a country like Iran or Algeria or Indonesia faces Israel in a world cup or olympics in the future. They might refuse to play unironically.
Anonymous Ireland No.150689945 [Report] >>150690066
>>150689762
>but also because we fought so hard for our freedom and independence these last hundred years especially so the idea of us suffering for so long only to become part of another country feels like an insult and a slap to the face

Being part of an occupied region of your Nation, or experiencing a stronger sense of economic destitution than the rest of your Nation, is not the basis of an Independent Nation.

Roughly 95% of Kosovars are Albanians, is the basis of this 'new" Nationality that Tito and Slobodan didn't care much for non-Slavs?

Albanian Nationalists already sorted through 200 years of Albanian Catholics identifying more with the Italians, Albanian Bektashi Muslims identifying more with the Turks, etc.

After all this work, trying to form a Unified Albanian Nationality, what a slap in the face it is to say "well the Northern Albanians are different to the Southern Albanians, we deserve our own state".

For Irish Nationalists, "Northern Ireland" and "Southern Ireland" are insulting terms.
Anonymous Kosovo No.150689948 [Report] >>150689966
>>150689834
Selecao needs more White folk
Too much negrus and pardos
Anonymous Brazil No.150689966 [Report] >>150690097
>>150689948
That's how you win five World Cups.
Anonymous Romania No.150689979 [Report] >>150690110
>>150689882
You are tricksters, not geniuses. Your players purposefully shot the ball into the crowd several times, went up to the seats to yell at the crowd and as soon as they heard any insults back they immediately ran off the field.

It was 100% premeditated.
Anonymous Brazil No.150690046 [Report] >>150690079
>>150689834
you'll always be a retarded brown mongrel animal seething about superior germanic whites :)
Anonymous Netherlands No.150690048 [Report] >>150690319
>>150688735
>the Insular Celts have been around in this part of Europe for far longer than the Germanics
English people have mostly Celtic ancestry too. Also, the Irish have Anglo-Norman and Norse ancestry too.
>The very concept of "Britishness" is based on Germanic expansionism into historic Celtic territory and is inherently chauvinistic.
A lot of famous Irish people throughout history regarded themselves as British too, such as the founder of the Guiness family and Edmund Burke.
Anonymous Kosovo No.150690066 [Report] >>150690600
>>150689945
I don't know why you keep posting bunkerman pics
Hoxha was a scumbag crypto-gypsy commie who pretended to be (((le atheist))) but in reality he just destroyed churches and didn't destroy a single mosque
He even tried to destroy Pagans, and succeeded in destroying the Cult of the Moon
He was anti-Albanian

>Albanian Nationalists already sorted through 200 years of Albanian Catholics identifying more with the Italians, Albanian Bektashi Muslims identifying more with the Turks, etc.
All generalized simplified nonsense

>For Irish Nationalists, "Northern Ireland" and "Southern Ireland" are insulting terms.
And for us calling us ''Kosovar'' instead of ''Albanian'', especially for older folk, is also an insult
We still call ourselves Albanians but that doesn't necessarily mean we want to be part of Albania
Anonymous Brazil No.150690079 [Report] >>150690156
>>150690046
>wah wah wah we need to separate, we are white ou algo
>shut up faggot
>you'll always be a retarded brown mongrel animal seething about superior germanic whites :)
KEK
Anonymous Kosovo No.150690097 [Report] >>150690119
>>150689966
You used to have more Whites less negrus on your teams
Also your current pardus are way too ugly and unmemorable and without charisma, that's why they suck at football
Anonymous Kosovo No.150690110 [Report] >>150690123
>>150689979
>Bad shots cannot happen
meds
Anonymous United States No.150690113 [Report]
>>150687578 (OP)
Then they'll kick about and dive as usual. Maybe even score a goal or two.
Anonymous Netherlands No.150690119 [Report] >>150690233
>>150690097
Neymar was hot when he was thinner
Anonymous Romania No.150690123 [Report] >>150690247
>>150690110
I accept your concession.
Anonymous Brazil No.150690156 [Report]
>>150690079
kek brown mongrel complex activated by superior blue eyed germanics
Anonymous Croatia No.150690227 [Report] >>150690293
>>150689050
>And most of us don't want to join Albania, we didn't fight so hard for so long just to become part of Albania.
by all polls and opinions from people IRL and on the internet the unification is supported by majority in both countries lol, why are you acting here like it's some fringe position most people oppose?
Anonymous Kosovo No.150690233 [Report] >>150698999
>>150690119
But this diving prick had the charisma of a black hole
He was a gigantic bitch and whiner

Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Romario, Roberto Carlos, Cafu etc. were so lovable
Always wearing a smile on their faces
I used to think of Brazil as a happy sunny easygoing samba place back then and of course even the Brazilian players reflected that perception
Anonymous Kosovo No.150690247 [Report]
>>150690123
meds
Anonymous Kosovo No.150690293 [Report] >>150690450
>>150690227
Yeah buddy, I'm sure you know more than me who actually lives here
If we became part of Albania then we would deal with it, but what we really want is to continue being our own country.
Anonymous Ireland No.150690319 [Report]
>>150690048
>English people have mostly Celtic ancestry too

This is true, mainly Brythonic, except for the South-East of England.

>Also, the Irish have Anglo-Norman and Norse ancestry too.

Nope, most Irish people who have four Irish grandparents, have ancestry that goes back about 2,500 years in Ireland (sometimes up to about 4000 years).

>A lot of famous Irish people throughout history regarded themselves as British too

This misunderstands the concept of what a Nation is - it is entirely possible for a Nation to incorporate individuals and communities from foreign Nations, largely as long as the other Nation has a lot of similarities to the Host Nation.

That being said, less than 5% of Irish people actually have non-Gaelic ancestry (only half of people with Norman surnames have Norman heritage, and only about 2% of Irish people have significant Nordic ancestry).

Pic related.
Anonymous Croatia No.150690450 [Report] >>150690611
>>150690293
ok whatever man, i'm just saying it exists as a real idea among people, unlike unification of Austria with Germany, or Switzerland with Germany which nobody seriously supports in any country
Anonymous Brazil No.150690583 [Report]
>>150687792
I dont think ive ever seen a hungarian flag here. Whats up with that?
Anonymous Ireland No.150690600 [Report] >>150690821
>>150690066
>I don't know why you keep posting bunkerman pics

He did more than anybody else in continuing an independent Albanian state, whose borders you still have.

>Hoxha was a scumbag crypto-gypsy commie

This is just sad, in the past 30 years your country has degenerated into a hub for human and drug trafficking. This is your reputation in Western Europe and you have the highest rate of arrest per capita of any Nationality in the United Kingdom. This is what you are now known for - throughout all of Western Europe.

>who pretended to be (((le atheist))) but in reality he just destroyed churches and didn't destroy a single mosque

This is not even close to being historically accurate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_People%27s_Socialist_Republic_of_Albania

>We still call ourselves Albanians but that doesn't necessarily mean we want to be part of Albania

This is pathetic.
Anonymous Kosovo No.150690611 [Report]
>>150690450
I'm not denying that it exist but it's a minority that really wants it.
The rest see it as an option but not the ideal.

Personally I see it as a bad thing because of our historic North vs South mentality/rivalry
Politics are already cancerous as they are, if we join Albania it will be even worse.

Foreigners don't know this but Hoxha enforced Tosk dialect as the Standard Albanian language while fucking over Northerners.
To this day there is no official Gheg Albanian standard.
Anonymous United States No.150690676 [Report]
not sure why this mick is so invested in this discussion
just that mad about poorthern direland? lol
Anonymous Kosovo No.150690821 [Report] >>150690991 >>150691314
>>150690600
>He did more than anybody else in continuing an independent Albanian state
He was a paranoid commie dictator tyrant who killed countless Albanians, anybody he ever suspected of betraying or spying on him
Even killed his sister's husband
You won't hear any Albanian praising Uncle Enver
You are completely clueless
Us Kosovo Albanians may have had our problems under Yugoslavia but(and especially under Tito's reign) we had it far better than Commie Albania in comparison
Which should just tell you how much of a scumbag monster Enver was

Please, I won't engage with some Irishman who knows fuck all about my people
Anonymous Croatia No.150690991 [Report] >>150691550 >>150691678
>>150690821
this guy is schizo, he's also talking about some Serbo-Croatian nationhood (??) which is a completely nonexistent idea and something 100% nobody wants from either country kek
Anonymous Colombia No.150691260 [Report]
>>150687659
The announcers also made sure to never actually name kosovo during the whole match
Anonymous Ireland No.150691314 [Report]
>>150690821
>He was a paranoid commie dictator tyrant who killed countless Albanians

He tripled the population of Albania, whilst maintaining your borders, which almost nobody else managed to achieve in Eastern Europe during this same time period.

>Us Kosovo Albanians may have had our problems under Yugoslavia but(and especially under Tito's reign) we had it far better than Commie Albania in comparison

This is because Yugoslavs, in general, had a much stronger start than the Albanians at the start of the Cold War - Tito never had to kickstart an electrification campaign like Hoxha. Nor did he have to found multiple Universities, where no Universities were to be found before.

>Us Kosovo Albanians may have had our problems under Yugoslavia but(and especially under Tito's reign

And yet, you kept rebelling against a Multi-National State, whilst now refusing to join a state with your own countrymen.

>Please, I won't engage with some Irishman who knows fuck all about my people

You do realise that your reputation in 21st Western Europe is that of a bunch of crack addicts, pimps, prostitutes and human traffickers?

Perhaps you would have been better off with the quant, self-sustainable angle.
Anonymous United States No.150691455 [Report]
>>150687686
based madagascar shutting it down
Anonymous Ireland No.150691550 [Report]
>>150690991
>this guy is schizo, he's also talking about some Serbo-Croatian nationhood (??)

Yes, because you constitute the same Nation.

>which is a completely nonexistent idea and something 100% nobody wants from either country

Obviously not in the present (because of what happened during the 90s), but it will most likely happen in a century or so.

Just because you have differences in terms of religion, Historic Empires (Austria-Hungary Vs Ottoman) and script, doesn't stop you from being a shared Nation.

Your Unification is going to happen eventually, just like that of the Albanians and the Kosovars.
Anonymous Ireland No.150691678 [Report]
also

>>150690991
>this guy is schizo, he's also talking about some Serbo-Croatian nationhood (??)

Talk to a random individual from Sarajevo or Belgrade, and see how much you can understand each other.

See! Nothing schizo about it - this is simply the basis of your Nationhood.
Anonymous Ireland No.150691964 [Report] >>150698913
>>150687578 (OP)
why do mutts ask the most retarded question on this board? Kosovo has already played, Armenia, Cyprus, Romania and Belarus in the last 2 years. All of them don't recognise the state, nothing happened when they played the matches. You could have easily looked this up you lazy piece of shit. Kys
Anonymous Bulgaria No.150692323 [Report]
>>150687659
why are they seething so much at it tho? is it just cos of the catalans and basques?
Anonymous Ireland No.150698913 [Report]
>>150691964
It's a >>>/pol/ shill thread they're not discussing sports rather they are getting angry if the discussion is in a sporting context
Anonymous Canada No.150698957 [Report]
>>150687578 (OP)
Spain has a point, how many of their players were born within their "national" borders?
Anonymous Canada No.150698999 [Report]
>>150690233
>Cafu, Roberto Carlos
Both players who'd be great fits in a team playing... 3-5-2...
Anonymous Finland No.150699003 [Report]
>international break
>countryballing and polchuddery ramps up 300%
Every time
Anonymous Slovenia No.150699150 [Report]
>>150687990
nice, but your idea would never work
the original inner tension that tore yugoslavia apart was between croats and serbs, and even a reduced (core yugoslavia) form of the country would end up similarly
aprat from tito being part-slovenian, slovenia was there just as a counterbalance to utter balkanism of the serbian-gravitating part, and would probably not last long on its own. we even lacked a large portion of the country for a decade even after the WW2 was over.
perhaps you are right about giving some of the vojvodina to soviets/hungary. the red army even occupied those lands for a while. at the same time not that many serbs would have been moved from kosovo in order to get the majority in vojvodina. still, the displacement of serbs and montenegrins from kosovo was largely justified by prevention of blood revenge, which had lasted for generations between them and albanians.
there was never a simple solution, nor there is on in sight today (except for maybe total pajeet replacement of the original population)

but anyway, weren't brits also celtic in their origin?