Thread 150787601

>>150780062


>September 14th TBA
Naoya Inoue vs. Murodjon Akhmadaliev
Yoshiki Takei vs. Christian Jimenez

>September 20th DAZN
Oscar Collazo vs. Jayson Vayson

>October 1st N/A
Brandon Glanton vs Marcus Browne

GODford

>kills himself
>ricky splatton

BoMac isn't fat, he's just full of boxing knowledge

gonna rewatch it now

remember being really triggered by how bad the ring walks were last night especially crawfords
that random metal band playing for 90 seconds on their own and then terrance walking out with a guitar box

so weird he has no aura outside of fighting

Dwyer coping hard about Canelo losing. Think he pulled a showbizz and lost about 10 grand or so on the fight.

>>150787601 (OP)
Anyone that knows what crawford, bivol and Floyd have in common will be able to beat canelo.

>>150788784
KWABizz is the biggest loser out there

>>150787601 (OP)
>Comes out to Mexican music on the Mexican Day of Independence to pay homage to the Mexicans
Class act.
>No tattoos
Based.
>Actually a good boxer, instead of the manufactured, marketing campaign slop boxers that 95% of this sport is.
>Doesn’t do the tie-up crap where he leans on the other boxer, headbutts them a couple times and gets in a couple cheap shots that Fraudelo and Fraud Fury do.
Based.
/box/ is now a Crawford fandom genny. We’re all Crawford fans here.

It's a bit sad to know that the 3 emperor era is going to end soon
Usyk is one fight away from retirement, Crawford might already be retired, and Inoue is entering the twilight of his career

Money May

Bivolfags already begging for another old, significantly smaller fighter to be added to his resume

GGG got robbed in the first Canelo fight and I’m still mad about it. Was 8-4 borat

>>150789342
>+148
Those odds are absurd. How much money came in on Canelo? Casinos must be feasting

Rest in Peace Ricky, we all have demons.

The mega fight was pretty memey. Crawford jabs and was a touch more active, hardly a super fight

>>150789342
JIGGER GAY

>>150789342
Wow so Floyd really is broke

>3 division undisputed
GOATED

Watching a few fights from 2021-2022 from Canelo including Bivol.
This guy is beyond fucking shot now compared to 3-4 years ago. I really think it's just probably Eubank Jr and Jake Paul left for him. Gonna miss Clenelo.

>>150789806
this. he's got tons of miles on the clock

Bob Fitzsimmons
Tony Canzoneri
Barney Ross
Henry Armstrong
Terence Crawford

These are the only fighters to be undisputed at 3 weight classes

Fury won. Twice.

>>150790128
Bob Fitzsimmons would batter Crawfraud.

>>150789806
Canelo still got one more fight for the Saudis. Most likely Crawford at lower than 168. That's the biggest payday left for both men before they retire and fight would probably be in Mexico
Maybe that Saudi Middleweight dude they've been pushing gets the fight if the Saudis can get Alvarez to fight what we assume is his retirement fight in KSA

>>150789342
Floyd is flexing on 50k?!? Is he going bankrupt? The old Floyd wouldn't even pick up his phone about a 5 figure bet.

Crawfraud only fights geriatrics and car crash survivors, I don't rate him.

>>150790415
No way Canelo wants to fight Crawford again. He came close to pulling the classic beaner No Mas card.

>>150790538
Yes, the ancient mummified Canelo that is two years younger than he himself is. What an age-bully.

I missed the Inoue fight bros. how was it???

>>150790415
Canelo isnt fighting bud again. If he still wants to box he'll fight benavidez. If he wants to cash in it'll be Jake Paul

Crawford loses to Ricky Hatton

Fight was really close. People acting like it was a walk. God I hate

>>150790836
This guy is the real goat

>>150789806
Morning Cobbe'

>>150789342
HAHAHAHAH

>>150791001
I think even the biggest Canelo nuthugger would struggle to give him more than 4 rounds. It wasn't really close. Canelo had a handful of isolated moments, but he was just outgunned.

>>150791045
Just saw the highlights, he absolutely toyed with. him.
Also just heard about Ricky Hatton. Only 46 years old. wtf.
Been a real shitty week. RIP Hitman.

I mean the ko threat was there so i guess that made the fight closer than it looked

>>150790885
>>150788815
>Loses to an inanimate object.
Hatton would get knocked out faster than Kell Brook while losing each round.

>>150791635
Same for Amir Khan.

no sticky?

Imagine kicking fivey down a flight of stairs

>>150792154
for the Hitman? Deserves one desu

>>150790538
Tbh his resume is still a bit sketch. People say Mayweather was a cherry picker (which i disagree with) but cmon Spence flew out of his car like Superman, Porter was semi retired and Canelo hasn't had a KO in almost 5 years. Bud picked his fights well and blamed king jew Arum for somehow holding him back when all these fighters were at their peak.

I guess you can only fight what's in front of you. Would Usyk beat a AJ that wasn't gun shy from the Ruiz loss and Fury before he blew up to 600 pounds and lost his legs? Who knows.

just caught up on the fights

can't believe crawford won... I apologise to terry crawford for calling him crawfraud
saw some RIP Ricky Hatton posts earlier but i thought they were taking the piss, that's a shocker
inoue was boring

>>150790836
boring, don't bother
the takei fight on co-main was a banger, watch that instead

>>150792750
The greatest fighters always carefully managed their careers. Mayweather didn't fight Pac until he had clearly lost a step. Sugar Ray Leonard insisting on pillow gloves and a giant ring so he could dance around Hagler. Jon Jones had zero interest in fighting Rumble Johnson because he knew that power and wrestling would make a difficult opponent. Notice how these guys always are high 'fight IQ' types, they understand that half the fight happens before the contract is even signed. Canelo was great, but he's just a meat-head bully. The next tier of fighter has higher ring-IQ. That's guys like Mayweather, Hopkins, Usyk.

>>150793126
>Jon Jones had zero interest in fighting Rumble Johnson because he knew that power and wrestling would make a difficult opponent
go back

>Canelo
>Hatton

Tough weekend for us ginger-kings. F to Ricky. A true real one. Multiple time world champ, besides his comeback he only lost to two of the best boxers ever. Imagine having to fight 2 guys that are going to be in most people's 'top 10 EVER' list, damn. No shame whatsoever in falling short of Manny and Floyd.

>>150793337
He gave Floyd a good fight too, pity that his performance gets overshadowed by how comical the KO was

Why is the media pretending Canelo didn't lose to Scull in his previous fight? The slurping is out of hand.

>>150788784
>spend years betting against clenny, even when he faced the likes of fucking avni yildrim
>finally bet on him
>he gets schooled
zoz, sasuga dwyer-san

>>150788117
aging really is all about heart and mentality

2 months ago, we got a 50 year old pacman fighting a 6 foot welterweight champion to a draw

not to mention, pac got splattered worse in 2012

just when dwyer was regaining some credibility

>>150792750
COBBER you sucking black dik

Now that the dust has settled, is Crawford now the number 1 p4p?

I'm gonna be honest I thought Canelo earned the split decision victory

>>150795523
Usyk by a mile. His HW run is the greatest P4P achievement I've ever seen.

>>150795638
I'm racist against black people and even I thought Canelo won 4 rounds at best.

>>150795523
>>150795523
Hard to say with him versus Usyk. Almost all of their famous wins were people past their peak or had losses that changed them. So you look at the less known fighters.

I think prime Bredis gives Usyk an edge over Bud and that Bredis win will age like fine wine even more if Opetai easily takes out Zurdo and grabs a heavyweight belt on top of that. You gonna look back and say damn Usyk beat the guy in his prime that broke Opetai's jaw at 39 and gave him a close fight.

Bud doesn't really have anything like this where he beat a fighter that wasn't well known that later on grabbed a good win or had a close fight with an up and coming great. Madrimov seemed like he could be GGG Jr but got smashed up by Ortiz so that went out the window quick.

>>150792750
He beat everyone when he was at 140. Beat all but one notable name at 147 (Boots).

I dont really know what's he's going to do next. Maybe he goes back to 154, maybe he stays at 168. If I was him I'd clean out 160. The champs there aren't exactly killers and its shallower than 154 or 168. It can be cleaned out much quicker than the alternatives

>>150792750
He also fought Khan and brook who were in pieces for years already lol

>>150796566
>got smashed up by Ortiz
I dont remember that happening. It was pretty competitive

I've said before that Canelo needs to initiate with head movements, feints, jabs, and double jabs against Crawford. While Crawford can be outboxed, there was no slick boxing done because Canelo didn't initiate shit and was just waiting to throw hooks. You can't rattle a cerebral boxer by simply spamming hooks. Not only that, I've said before that the prideful Crawford thinks he's stronger than Canelo and will be eager to fight in the pocket at the right opportunity. Canelo was really risking to get KO'd in that fight. Now everybody thinks Crawford is all invincible and has successfully ducked the super welterweight division.

>>150790538
This. 5 weight champ and 3 weight undisputed but only 1 legit hof'er on his resume. Doesn't crack top 50 all time.

Crawford didn't do shit except throw 100 pillow hands and dance away from the opponent. He didn't have the heart to actually fight the guy.

>>150796993
Canelo just can't do that shit anymore. 68 pro fights mostly with camps, weight cuts and hard sparring has shot him.

>>150789318
Crawford only had one entertaining fight which was Spence. Inoue beat up on mostly bums and old has beens. Only usyk truly delivered and is worthy of cracking top 50 all time.

>>150796993
>Canelo needs to initiate with head movements, feints, jabs, and double jabs
I think its been close to a decade since Canelo double jabbed

>>150797531
When Canelo got in his face, Bud still won almost all of those exchanges. He was thoroughly schooled. He would have gotten stopped if he wasn't such a tough bastard. Canelo looked like he wanted to quit at the end.

>>150787601 (OP)
>Floyd Mayweather's 2 signature wins were a drug addled can who heemed himself yesterday and a (literal) poopy pants loser who got BTFO by a guy 4 weight classes down.
Not looking good for Floyd's legacy.

Tyson Fury is the Greatest Of All Time.

>>150798992
... on opposite day!

>>150798498
Canelo lost
Netflix lost
White boys AND beaners both lost since Canelo is some sort of white-passing mexican guy
/box/ lost

Bud won
Floyd won (he even posted the slip)
Black Excellence won (as usual)
Jake Paul won (Canelo is now a possible opponent for him)

Pac won. Gayweather lost.

Helenius won. Twice.

Dana won

>>150799682
Dana always wins, that's a given. This card was dogshit like 95% of UFC cards are, but Dana still wins no matter what. Must be the mafia connections.

>>150798440
Canelo's power is gone. Berlanga, Munguia and Ryder got sparked out recently but Canelo couldn't do it.

>>150799448
See you... in Valhalla

With the combination of Usyk's prediction, and the always wrong nonce's prediction, of course it was going to be a Crawford win.
Thanks for the tip nonce, should I bet on whether it will snow this Christmas as well?

>>150789342
can't floyd not read? how does he know what the receipt says?

>>150787601 (OP)
Does anyone really think that Hatton would kill himself?

Hatton is the last person you would see him killing himself.

>>150801083
His nickname is the Hitman. He wanted to be ironic.

>>150787601 (OP)
Crawford won.
/heem/ won.
Mixed Martial Arts won.

>>150801083
He was brain damaged, randomly crying and mood swings are signs of brain damage but that’s uncomfortable for people to acknowledge because it means boxing is to blame and no amount of talking about muh mental health would have repaired the damage. It’s a risk that comes with the territory and his son Campbell was wise to drop out when it was clear he wouldn’t make it as a top level prize fighter.

>>150799034
Netflix won according to Turki, did numbers and now all the other promoters are getting twitchy about it

>>150801672
Good, PPV is cancer. PBC charging 80 bucks for their shit fights is horseshit.
At least with Wilder fights a few years ago you might have seen him kill somebody to justify the price but now whats the point.

>>150787601 (OP)
Can’t believe Crawford almost got robbed like GGG
Two judges scored 115-113
They almost went for a draw

Was Canelo Vs Crawford really a super fight? As a cazzie I really didn't feel it.

>>150797902
Complete lie, Gamboa was undefeated so that fight was extremely hype, so was his fight against Jose Benavidez in Omaha, and there’s more.

>>150801925
didn't feel bigger than spence v crawford desu
not on the level of a pac v mayweather or a fury v usyk

>>150797531
CHI detected

>>150802107
Cheers lad.

>>150787601 (OP)
why are people talking about this punch? canelo was clearly rolling with the punch. canelo vs crawford was a boring ass sparing match

>>150787601 (OP)
Boxers look really STUPID when they get photographed like this with high speed cameras that can capture every fraction of a second of how fucking STUPID they look while taking a hook. Embarrassing sport. You're all gay.

>>150801925
Knowers know that Bumnelo has been a fraud for years now despite his massive brand so it was an important exposure

>>150801925
Netflix made it more accessible so yeah it was kinda a super fight.
But the fight itself was just okay. Canelo should have said fuck it and head hunted the whole time if he didn't wanna fucking box properly anyway. Bud getting dropped once or twice and Canelo getting KO'd from a counter would have been kino.

>>150801925
I'd kick her ass no joke I would shoot win. Dumb fucking bitch.

history will be kind to canelo

>>150801083
He wished so much to win again. And when he lost he started to cry. He was the happiest man in the world when he beat Kostya Tszyu and he knew he will never feel that kind of high again, ever, and he couldn't cope.

>>150802575
His 168 run is 10/10 and those years of boxing sucked ass with all the ducking and Clenny was the bright spot. Yeah he pisssed hot for GGG 2 and got favorable scores for GGG 1 and Lara but man that 2020/2021 Canelo was fun to watch.

I'll beat you all up easily. You all are losers I could beat you one by one or all at once.

>>150803165
what did you say about us you little bitch? I'm a former navy seal and kickboxer with lots of combat experience in Africa.

>>150802093
Gamboa was completely undersized for a lightweight and his career was a mess at that point too. It was a joke fight. Crawford's resume is still doo doo.

so now that the dust has settled, where does Bud rank on the all time p4p list? is he top 10 after what he just did to another ATG 20 lbs up from his natural weight class?

>>150802901
he's got a 15 year resume of top names
yes there are some tomato cans, yes there are some cherrypicks and PEDs but nobody has that sort of career any more
guys had like 30 world title fights or something silly like that

>>150804385
Top 10 all time is a rare distinction. The one argument against it is Bud has not faced another ATG in their prime. Belts, numbers, none of that is important at all. Canelo was well past his prime. So we will never know what happens when Bud gets pushed to the limit.

>>150804385
Not even top 50. Just look at his resume lol. I don't care how many trinkets he won.

>>150804469
>>150804500
Bud is even older than Canelo and made it look easy. name another guy in history who you think could go up that much weight and do that to an over the hill Canelo who is still dangerous and technically great. the list won't be long

>>150804558
Canelo's run since Bivol has been just atrocious. He couldn't even get Berlanga out of there which Sheeraz dispatched in what 2 rounds? Canelo is entirely carried by his name at this point, not his skill in the ring. Bud's win is impressive certainly but it's not even in the same galaxy as Ali Foreman or Leonard Hagler or even Pacquiao Magarito or de la Hoya

Canelo has looked washed for years. I know he's only 35, but he has over 60 fights and has been at the top of the sport for many years.

>>150803320
Congrats on beating up malnourished little coal skinned children in disrepair. Now, you get to meet me in the ring and I don't eat this for nourishment:
https://youtu.be/dbjIoA76ZWo

>>150804558
Has nothing to do with age. Canelo has far more wear and tear and has been mentally out of the sport since his bivol loss. Canelo clearly more past it than crawford and it showed. At the end of the day crawford's resume is too mediocre to make it into top 50.

>>150802901
Canelo at 160 was fun too, some of those fights rank among his best performances or fights in general. He has his controversies and asterisks but he's been a massive net positive to the sport for a long while, that's why it makes me sad he was humiliation ritualed because he was too shot to provide any resistance. Until the Bivol loss he was about as close to an ideal champion as you could get with the names and activity and performances.

...Anonymous
09/15/25(Mon)02:37:48 No.150788402
Can someone explain to me why nobody is suggesting the most obvious matchup ever?

Terence Crawford vs Olexander Usyk

Crawford goes up to Cruiserweight, Usyk comes back down.
Crawford had no trouble going up to super middleweight and becaming undisputed champion. Nobody else to fight in the division.
Usyk cleaned up heavyweight. The Parker fight is worthless because he has already beaten much better opponents. There is nothing left for him to do at heavyweight.

Both boxers 38 years old and nearing the end. Both undisputed champions across multiple weight divisions.

Fight of the century.

Can someone explain to me why nobody is suggesting the most obvious matchup ever?

Terence Crawford vs Olexander Usyk

Crawford goes up to Cruiserweight, Usyk comes back down.
Crawford had no trouble going up to super middleweight and becaming undisputed champion. Nobody else to fight in the division.
Usyk cleaned up heavyweight. The Parker fight is worthless because he has already beaten much better opponents. There is nothing left for him to do at heavyweight.

Both boxers 38 years old and nearing the end. Both undisputed champions across multiple weight divisions.

Fight of the century.

>>150790885
Hatton was a bum m8.

Where does Wilder’s power rank all time? I’m a super casual fan but I guess that basically the sentiment is that his technical boxing skills/movement are almost amateur level and the sole reason he ever made it this far is because of his generational knockout power. On top of that he started boxing in his early 20s and somehow made it to the top. How much of a genetic freak is he to have made it this far? Fury is a top level boxer and he almost had him beat twice. Could he have a chance against some all timers like Foreman, Frazier or Tyson?

>>150805871
I thought you were just "playing stupid" until you typed more than the 1st sentence and I saw your flag. Are you actually retarded?

>>150806794
>no argument

Fury is The Greatest.

Prime Mayweather dominates prime Crawford.

Simple as.

>>150801925
source?

>>150804385
>>150804469
>>150804500
>>150804558
Terrance Crawford is a vulture. He let Errol and Canelo kill themselves collecting all the belts in their weight classes and then scoped in to take it.

>>150807443
GOATs

>>150807250
Gayweather almost got knocked the spark out by aging Mosley and got his ass kicked by Oscar. Crawford unironically knocks out Mayweather

>>150801083
Doubt it was on purpose.

There's no way he wasn't on a ton of painkillers. The usual culprit when someone is on a lot of opiates is alcohol + the pills. It's a deadly combo if you overdo it.
He probably just had one binge drinking day and it badly backfired.

>>150807869
Mosley pissed hot for steroids and Oscar wasn't a joke when he was in his prime but you're too zoomer to know this.

>>150806763
He has a big right hand but shouldn't be remembered as much more than that. Fury is an enigma that had all of the talent in the world but never took the sport seriously. That Fury trilogy ended Wilder's career. He is punch drunk.

>>150801672
I paid $8 to watch it and felt it was worth it. I'll never pay $80 but less than ten bucks to watch a big fight is worth it.

>>150801083
He was a pretty heavy drinker wasn't he?

>>150807985
Crawford is simply too smart. He would study Mayweather like he did Canelo and find the perfect strategy to beat him. He has the athletic and boxing gifts to implement different styles to fit the right gameplan, whereas Mayweather only has a single style and when he deviated he was in the toughest fights of his career. Crawford wins easy.

>>150801672
still dont get how netflix can possibly make their money back. canelo got a trillion dollars to show and it was only $8 to watch? not even including the people that already have netflix.

>>150808186
Yeah I think it would take a couple rounds for Crawford to figure Floyd out, after that he would go for the kill. Crawford can fight any style. He can even fight southpaw or orthodox if necessary.

>>150808186
>>150808466
Mayweather statistically speaking is the best of all time of hitting and not getting hit. Half of his fights are against former world champions. Crawford only has two good wins. Errol who wasn't the same after that car accident and Canelo who mentally retired 8 fights ago.

Still no valid argument against this: >>150805871

Usyk v Crawford

>>150805871
He should go back down to lightweight to fight Inoue first

>>150806763
Impossible to know since all his fights were rigged

Noncesa and Finnonce have not had a single good take for another year in a row.

He told the truth (me).

THE OBJECTIVE TOP 10 LIST OF /box/ WINNERS IN 2025 (in no order):
Usyk won.
Crawford won.
Jack Catterall won.
Puello won.
Bivol won.
Joseph Parker won.
Roach won.
Pac won.
Hrgovic won.
Nick Ball won.

>>150808868
is this real

Mayweather would dominate Crawford. He's a puzzle that has never been solved.

People forget Mayweather used to knock people out before he moved up multiple weight classes

>>150805871
Usyk is a proud man and would never accept that fight since he'd be going against a signifcantly smaller guy. It would be like a rich e-celebrity challenging him to a fight, no amount of money would make him accept it since it would dishonor boxing.

>>150809552
Usyk loses 20 pounds, Crawford gains 20 pounds. It's doable. Usyk used to compete I'm Cruiserweight.

There is nobody left for either of them to fight in their respective class. They are both 38, undefeated, and undisputed across multiple divisions. It makes sense.

why was canelo so bad that was fucked

>>150809760
Canelo did the modern day equivalent of Roberto Duran's "no mas" and looked like he gave up in the later rounds, yet two of the judges only had Crawford winning by a few points, it shows you how rigged the sport is. If Crawford didn't dominate the judges would have thrown the fight.

Madrimov beat Crawford unironically

>>150809760
he's usually amazing but probably he couldn't believe the reaction times of crawford who was basically spiderman

>>150809760
Canelo a shit

>>150809893
>crawford who was basically spiderman
Crawford is built different. I watched all of Errol Spence's fights. Nobody did what Crawford did to him. Made him look like he didn't belong in the ring with him.

>>150805871
>>150808701
I thought this anon was a schizo, but apparently Usky and Shawn Porter fought each other when they were younger and Porter won so the right is possible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFpSZOhtZVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk-FZ7-1ZNw

Did Ricky die from drug overdose? I recall he struggled with addiction.

>>150807869
Half-retired Oscar gave Mayweather a better fight than Canelo did. I think Oscar is underrated desu.

Bros how did i get it so wrong? How the fuck did madrimov do way better than canelo?

>>150800899
You can't write a sentence in English to save your life can you fugee boy

>>150807443
Gayest of all time

>>150807443
Why he smiling? Slav card: revoked.

Canelo frankly showed Zero humility after the loss. He wasn't devastated and barely seems to care.

>>150811366
He seemed humble to me, besides the lol-tier hand raise. Canelo is too rich to care about boxing anymore. What do you expect? He got paid hundreds of millions.

>>150811366
He made 150 mill from the fight. Probably more since he threw the fight. He realized that boxing records are bullshit and rigged and don't matter so this L was just a payday for him. Honestly the smartest thing to do in a sport that everyone already knows is shady and rigged as hell.

>>150811366
>>150811385
Canelo has nothing left to prove in the sport so this was just a money fight for him. If he beat Crawford people would just argue he beat a smaller guy. The only way we see prime Canelo again is if he's given a legacy fight like the chance to become undisputed in another weight class.

>>150811412
I think it's more of a case that Canelo couldn't be motivated to train for this fight. If he wins he gains nothing for his legacy since Crawford is coming up multiple weight classes. Meanwhile, Crawford had all the motivation in the world to win this fight to make history.

>>150809760
>| Canelo Álvarez | 68 fights | 532 total rounds|
>| Terence Crawford| 42 fights| 245 total rounds|

if you think this guys as animals, because at the end of the day we are, canelo is too beat up. secretariat was the same, he ran too much and lost. crawford beat an old animal with too much mileage.

>>150811441
it was too boring for me to go back and rewatch, but it seemed like Canelo wasn't even trying. Also all the clinching from Canelo was weird as hell, especially when he was the one moving forward for almost the entire fight. Doesn't make sense. He was trying to run out the clock while taking as little damage as possible, which is why Crawford was able to get off so many combos with little pushback from Canelo.

>>150811453
But you're ignoring all the damage they take in sparring sessions. Crawford's mom would pay kids $10 if they could beat her son. God only knows how many gym wars he's been through. Canelo is younger than him.

Also, let's be real. The majority of Canelo's earlier fights were those sus Mexican fights where they pad their resume against taxi drivers and firemen. All the great mexican boxers are guilty of this.

>>150811441
Canelo was clearly motivated for this fight. He wasn't phoning it in like he did against Berlanga and Scull. He showed up for this one, he knew he had to

>>150811525
Honestly I wasn't suspicious until I saw the post-fight reactions from both Canelo and Crawford. It looked like neither one of them gave a shit about it, like they both knew it didn't mean anything. It was a win-win for both of them. Canelo got paid and Crawford gets to pretend he's an all time great

>>150809286
Usyk arguably lost 3 fights.

>>150811525
>Canelo was clearly motivated for this fight.
It is a big fight but it's not a legacy fight. The businessman in him showed up, the fighter in him did not. If Canelo won it did nothing for him.

>>150811441
What more motivation does one need than to keep all their belts?

>>150811688
Once you already won all the belts and gained the title of undisputed it doesn't matter if you lose them hence the reason we see fighters like Crawford and Usky leaving their weight class and abandoning all their belts. This isn't like the UFC where title defenses boost your legacy. Boxing used to be like that.

by beating canelo crawford is not one of the greatest of all time, you niggas must be crazy. he beat a has been, and we all know that. hes had 3 horrendous fights before this. canelo is not even a hall of famer. you can pretend all you want.

>>150811754
If winning undisputed belts in 3 weight classes was easy why is Crawford and Henry Armstrong the only ones to do it?

>>150811765
benabidez would of done it, come on now. one got the chance the other didtnt

>>150811765
because it's honestly not that impressive and can be done by being strategic about which fights you take and which ones you avoid

>>150801083
Yes. He’s been battling with depression for a long time.

>>150807869
> Gayweather almost got knocked the spark out by aging Mosley
Lol, no he didn’t.

>>150811754
>>150811790
>people already trying to retroactively discredit the Canelo win just like they did the Spence win
I'm not listening to this bullshit again
Crawford started his career as a fucking lightweight, slowly worked his way up to 154 while winning belts in each weight (became undisputed twice along the way) and then skipped TWO weight classes to go to 168 and fight the undisputed champ their who was widely considered to be top 5 p4p without any sort of tune up.
And don't give me that bullshit that Canelo is past his prime when he's 3 years younger than Crawford and was way more active than him going into this fight, he had every possible advantage going for him into this fight (Vegas judging, mexican crowd, younger and more active, bigger and more adjusted to the weight, A-side, etc) and Crawford STILL fucking schooled him as the underdog. If you don't think he's an ATG now there is literally nothing he could actually do that could convince you otherwise

>>150811977
the fight was obviously rigged and Crawford's entire career was built on taking easy fights that were also most likely rigged. I've never heard of a single person talk about Crawford as anything other than a literal who and in about a week everyone will forget who he is. Canelo could lose his next ten fights and would still go down in history

>bohachuk lost to Adams again
Nigga just has his number

>>150811977
*wipes my bum on your post*

>>150812145
That fight and Mbilli vs. Martinez should've been the 2 fights before the main event, Walsh vs. Vargas just killed the cards momentum

>>150811996
He goes down in history as a good fighter that was popular but ultimately wasn't good enough to stand with the truly elite

>>150812523
And what if he beats Usyk in the cruiserweight battle of the multi division champions?

>>150812606
Meds. Now.

What in the fuck is it with Americans telling everybody to start using prescription drugs?
Do they reach a point where they've watched so many pharma ads during NFL broadcasts that they themselves become advertisers for the pharma companies?
It's a phenomenon that needs to be studied imho tbqh.

>>150789806
Imagine making excuses for this bum. He's the same fighter he's always been. Put a shithouse plodder in front of him from the Uk or another Bumlanga and he'll look like a p4p great again.
Why do you think he spent his whole career cherrpicking.
He can't deal with top level guys that can actually fight.

>>150812224
Your growth spurt or lack thereof killed your ability to be taken seriously

So who's next for Crawford if he doesn't just retire?
Imagine if he went after Bivol. Now that would be a legacy-defining fight if he won.

>>150812895
There's really nothing left. He's not going down in weight cuz everyone below 168 is a prospect scrub. He's pushing 40 and needed a career defining fight and he got it. A rematch maybe but I don't see anything else. Bivol wont bring any money unless the sheik ponies up for it but I don't see it. Would be a good fight and I'd take Bivol in it.

>>150812895
He suggested after the fight that he would consider moving down to try and unify 160. I would love to see him against Janny and a couple other guys down there like Adames or Yoenli. It would be fun to see if he could take another weight jump but I really do think this is his absolute limit before the size disparity really does become too much, Canelo himself is a pretty undersized super middleweight

>>150812929
Why don't you just shut the fuck up if you are so short? Do you expect to walk into this room and be taken seriously while sporting such stature? Nah, man. It ain't like that. The truth is we simply despise manlets and you happen to be one. So go drive off a bridge, suck a tailpipe, drop a mini toaster on your mini bath, use all your strength to lift a shotgun to your mouth, I don't fucking know, just kill yourself.

>>150812942
Total Manlet Destruction

>>150813054
You can get it too bitch I am in a bad mood.

>>150813054
>>150813072
Sorry for being rude I actually don't hate you I thought you had an Australian flag bc I'm drunk. You guys are cool, I just really fucking hate the backwater twisted version of the British accent that those fucking kiwis yammer on with

This was sad to watch. Canelo truly REKT himself this time. With the Bivol loss he definitely tarnished his unbearable status but he was still seen close to.
Why did he feel the need to do all of this? He was seen as a god up until a year ago. Was that not good enough?

>>150812942
Calm down, rod
>>150813115
>Why did he feel the need to do all of this?
Because he thought Crawford would be an easy cherry pick with a big name like Charlo was that he could flaunt around and say he beat.

>>150813364
>rod
>bongsa
You need help

>>150813364
I'm sure he did think he'd beat him, was it worth the risk though? He's done it all. Crawford is a name but he's fighting down a weight

>>150812895
>>150812904
>>150812929
Olexander Usyk.

Crawford puts on 20 pounds, Usyk loses 20 pounds. Cruiserweight bout to determine the absolute best pound for pound champion.
>b-but usyk too big
He used to COMPETE IN CRUISERWEIGHT.
He also lost to Shawn Porter in amateurs.
Crawford just went up a weight division and won easily.
None of them have any good opponents left in their respective division. They have both beaten everyone. Usyk's not gonna fight Parker, it's pointless.

Crawford v Usyk would be fight of the century. Make it happen.

Canelo has 6 losses

Fury. King of the Ring.

>>150796993
Yeah Canelo was fighting like he had something to prove even though hes the champ and Crawfords the underdog. He fought like he wanted to KO Crawford with every punch and got visibly winded. I dont care how much the weight and power difference is, if youre that predictable any good boxer will catch onto that. Canelo let Crawford get to his head.

>>150789342
He's still down millions

>>150813703
Crawford should combine with Inoue like Voltron to create a heavyweight to surpass Usyk

Boxers with names that can easily be twisted into some type of phrase for bums like CANelo?

>>150814504
Daniel Dubious

Canelo let unc get the win because he is a scholar and prince amongst men

Canelo needs to retire, fucking bum.

>>150811589
…but enough about Feary.

>Canelo is not a hall-of-famer

Lol, this is just absurd now. Are people really trying to tear down Bud's victory this bad?!

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM

>>150814979
STOP THE FIGHT STOP THE FIGHT!

>>150814763
Ngannou draw on points but either with a point taken away for the second knockdown or the obvious elbow to make it a win, first Wilder fight long count, and first John McDermott fight?

Remember when crawford was getting clowned in here? I think he is good but way too overrated right now. Somehow everyone forgot his fight before.

Triple B makes a strong case for Hatton's death being caused by the vax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg9QmHWqT88

>>150811453
The crawfish special.

Canelo should go for a rematch and hire Floyd Mayweather as his trainer.

This just shows special Kell Brook is

Canelo should retire, there's no one else to fight. He's definitely not going to fight Benavidez

>>150813703
Crawford versus Usyk would be a true Sugar Ray Robinson moment if it were to happen. No way it does.

>>150816243
He can get a payday for whooping Eubank or Sheeraz, same as his usual bum picking tactics, but there is zero chance he risks getting pummeled by Benavidez.

>>150816199
He rizzed up the Muhammad Ali of women's boxing. He's special.

>>150816366
Maybe recency bias but I think Canelo loses against both Eubank and Sheeraz if the fights take place in UK or Saudi.

>>150816199
To get whooped by Crawford, Spence, and GGG?

Having followed the attempts to negotiate the fight I thought it was fair for Canelo to skip Benavidez at the time due to how strange their team was acting, but gosh does it look bad now.

>>150816389
Prime Eubank got battered by a one armed George Groves who then proceeded to get battered by Callum Smith, who was battered by Canelo

In the immortal words of Oleksander Usyk
>Pound for pound is a load of bollocks
>Put Crawford on Inoue's shoulders and let's have it!

>>150809760
crawford has been training for canelo for years

Fury still the goat, manlets don't count.

Crawford would expose Usoyk if they met in the middle and fought at cruiserweight

>>150816949
Crying nonce post. Luke Partridge is still and always will be a loser. Already lost to a middleweight, Crawford at super middleweight would kill him.

>>150817239
Imagine being such a cuckold that you root for some gypsy slave draft dodging cheat coward over your own countrymen. Tommy Robinson was right about everything.

>>150817921
Gonedhi isn't british

>>150817921
you describing the gypsy scum luke feary there?

>>150818117
Travellers aren't the same thing they're like irish "people" but God fearing and excellent fighters

>>150814504
>>150814526
CANiel DuBUM
Keith BUMtime ThurCAN

Captcha: GG(XD)G

what does the N letter stand for?

>>150814504
Oleksdrafter Dodgesyk

L U K E
T Y G O Y

>>150814504
Gassius Gay

>>150818167
corNhusker

>>150818167
Nfury won

>>150817921
Of course the Ameritard likes Tommy “glory to Israel” Robinson

nelo is such a bum mehico boxin is ass too

Dana won.

>>150818699
Twice.

You manlets had your fun for a couple of days now lets get back to business:

Heavyweights only.

>>150818994
The heavyweight division is dead too though. They allowed Usyk to cheat his way to victory for Ukrainian war propaganda purposes, and the cost of this is that the heavyweight division has gone to shit with no worthy fights possible.

The man that will save boxing.

Turki is the worst thing to happen to boxing since Clay

>>150811977
Canelo was far past his prime though. Canelo hasn't been mentally the same since bivol. Looked awful against scull prior to crawford. It's delusional to think otherwise.

>>150818994
>Heavyweights only.

OK, what's your mom up to?

>>150819620
The Usoyk killer. Usoyks already been ducking and refusing to face him

Another one has tasted Turdki's chocolate fountain...

canelo losing was bad for boxing i say this as a heemer

>>150822230
He lost a lot of money on a crypto scam, so he's desperate right now.

>>150811977
He's been shit on for years for his fights from ryder onward, losing rounds to 40 year old GGG and not being able to ko anyone even Berlanga. His performance against Scull was atrocious, he's failed to live up to the expectations of him running through the plain to see weak, cherry picked competition every time. A lot of the same guys who have been calling him a washed plodder with no power are suddenly very eager to say Crawford beating him is the single most impressive achievement in boxing history. Don't be retarded and try to pretend you weren't one of them. The same asterisks we've applied to all other boxers wins over declined big names still apply here regardless of how hungry you are to fellate a particular boxer. It's night and day comparing both Usyk and Crawford at 38 to Canelo, it's more than just the age.

>>150807443
Russian first language bros

Does this win put Crawford in contention for greatest boxer of all time?

>>150825086
you are retarded.
>confirmed ony 41mil watchers
KEK now that canelo is finished jake paul who drew 100mil is the face of boxing

this link up is too legendary

>>150819620
Cant save boxing if he only ever fights in Saudi. Needs to tell Turki to fuck off

>>150826059
No idea who any of these beaners are

>>150822789
No one asked

41 million seems like a disappointing number.

>>150812942
>>150813072
>>150813098
SEETHING canelita. Godford did irreparable damage to the latinx community

>>150826802
Turns out baldnelo isnt a draw

>>150788727
Yeah the pre-fight stuff was really odd and cringe

>>150789342
I honestly believe he bets both sides, and bet way more on Canelo. He just posts the slip that won to look like he’s a discerning gambler. He tossed a paltry 50k on Crawford because he didn’t think he would win. Probably put down 6 figures on Canelo

>>150826802
No other fight in 2025 will draw 41 million. Jake Paul circus shows don't count.

>>150827112
>only what fits my narrative is cannon

troon much?

>>150826832
>>150788727
Crawford's entrance was based. It's an homage to the movie Desperado.

His entrance for the Spence fight was better though

>>150825086
Yes.

Crawford whoops prime Floyd

>>150827309
I think it’d be closer than against Canelo but I agree he wins. Mayweather would be harder to crack

>>150824052
Just because I picked Crawford to win partially because Clenny is older and has looked lacklustre recently doesn't mean that the accomplishment isnt still an all time great one. Dont get it twisted, if this were any other fighter in the last 20 skipping 2 weight classes entirely at 38 years old to fight someone of Canelos level (even a slightly past it Canelo) I would not have picked them at all, Crawford's the only one who I knew would be good enough to do it, most people would just end up looking like Charlo did against Canelo

>>150827723
Shut up and fuck off

>>150826802
I fucking hate normies

Can someone explain to me why the powers that be aren't setting up Hrgovic vs Itauma?

Why are they pushing for Itauma vs Usyk? It's a stupid pointless fight. If Usyk wins they will say Itauma fought too early; if Itauma wins they will say Usyk was too old and past his best.

>>150828047
Hrgovic is pricing himself out of the fight

Schedule for next thread

>September 18th
Liam Paro vs. David Papot

>September 20th DAZN
Oscar Collazo vs. Jayson Vayson

>October 4th DAZN
Cristobal Lorente vs. Nathaniel Collins
Willy Hutchinson vs. Mark Jeffers

>October 11th DAZN
Dave Allen vs. Arslanbek Makhmudov

>October 11th DAZN
Jaron Ennis vs. Uisma Lima

>October 25th DAZN
Joseph Parker vs. Fabio Wardley

We eating TERRIBLE this month
>>150828047
theres a sense of FOMO with Itauma vs. Usyk witht the promoters right now I think, Usyks got at max 2-3 fights left and they want Itauma to be one of them so if he wins they can promote him as the next star of heavyweight like they did with AJ after the klitschko fight and turn him into a cash cow
>if Itauma wins they will say Usyk was too old and past his best
Wlad was well past his best when AJ beat him and they were still able to sell him as the next best heavyweight after he won that fight, age doesnt really matter to fans that much as long as they dont look like theyre washed which usyk doesnt

>>150828086
>Jayson Vayson
what a name

>>150828047
Filip is too unpredictable, there's a chance he shows up and puts Itauma in the hospital.
Nobody wants that, they're trying to squeeze that Itauma juice slowly for at least the next couple years.

>>150828370
That doesn't explain the promoters push for an Usyk fight.

>>150828409
What do you think the odds of that fight happening are?

>>150828047
I think it was considered but the negotiations fell apart.
I think Big Baby Miller could be a good pick. He's good enough to not get immediately knocked out, but not good enough to be a serious danger. And he's still fairly well known and a big personality that can help with promotion.

>>150826802
>Mogged by women boxers

OH NO NO NO NOOOOOOOO

>>150828086
You weigh 70 kilograms there isn't a month you don't eat terrible

>>150816018
The vax was my first guess too.

>>150827112
If Tyson Fury came out of retirement to fight a plumber, he'd easily get over 100 million live viewers on Netflix. Guaranteed.

>>150828772
All me btw. Love Tyson Fury.

>>150828772
If Tyson Fury comes out of retirement surely the age of aquarius is upon us.

Gane decapitates Crawford in 3

>Finally fights a top boxer who is still in his prime
>Ends up winning because of his size

Now that the dust has settled we can all agree that crawford has a mediocre trash resume right? Car crash victim Spence and mentally retired canelo is all he has. Thetefore he doesn't crack top 50 all time.

>>150809501
Still the goat. The Money Team all the way.

>>150827309
>>150827360
Nobody got the the blueprint. Cant wait Mayweather's Masterclass™ showcase with bum mike tyson.

>>150825086
No, its proves that all those PBC trash were hyped up by promoters and pundits. And the fact the commentators were glazing that both men never got knocked down, when crawford got knocked down by a eastern European fighter, in the mid 2010's. Crawford is rated, finally got his flowers but not the goat. GGG already beaten Canelo.

>>150829913
I'm only literally just planning on porking some sri lankan minge what are the odds

>>150829605
This is the cordsensus.

De La Hoya won.

Ricky The Rickster Burns was a good win

>>150829587
>still in his prime
Tank is more mentally checked out than Canelo.
Also it's another circus show, it's not a professional bout

>>150828772
No one cares about the gypsy fraud anymore now that he stopped holding the heavyweight titles hostage

>>150828772
>to fight a plumber
Unrelated, but when only a small amount boxers can afford to go full time why is "He only fought cab drivers, plumbers, stockers, etc" used a way to insult a boxers record? This isn't sumo where dudes can join a stable and eke out a meager existence while training.

Why are the irish so inept at boxing

>>150830426
Starvation led dwarfism, even their birds have been cannabilizing their own tits and ass for centuries.

I've reached the conclusion that De La Hoya was the one who built prime Canelo. It's not something that Canelo himself or his camp can reach on their own. Canelo has deep ego issues, and that's the main reason he doesn't want to be under De La Hoya. Canelo could have been undefeated if he had followed Oscar's advice, like when Oscar said he was too green to fight Floyd. He might even be facing more financial issues by leaving De La Hoya's supervision.

>>150826802
Extremely disigenuous to put the woman boxing there as if it was the main attraction and not the undercard for Tyson vs Paul.

Tyson vs Paul was a circus and theyre both far more popular figures than either Canelo and especially Crawford. Canelo vs Crawford is a fight that would only really attract boxing enthusiasts that understand the significance of two ATGs fighting for undisputed status. Canelo has a dedicated mexican fanbase, but Crawford isnt the most famous american active boxer, that would be either Ryan or Tank.

41 million viewers is a fantastic number.

>>150827723
I mostly agree with you. Theres a ton of asterisks regarding Canelos undisputed status at 168 and now Crawford has inherited that. The Canelo that came in the division and tooks all those belts doesnt seem to be the Canelo Crawford fought. You really cant say Crawford is the best at 168 because the guy he took the belts from hasnt fought a credible contender in a good while.

Of course, were talking in the realm of a guy that started at 135 and went up and defeated a first ballot hall of famer, ATG 168. That alone is impressive and I will be the first to admit that i didnt give Crawfor much of a chance against Canelos power. Crawford is tough and wasnt scared, but Canelo was awfully predictable and low volume in his offense. Crawford is the kind of guy that can string together 6 punch combinations off a missed left hook. I dont think Canelo has EVER fought a guy that can do something similar besides Bivol, but even against Bivol Canelo looked less confused.

Canelo looked gunshy against Crawford in a way he didnt against Bivol. He tired to do a lot more in the Bivol fight. I think he honestely underestimated Crawford. He thought Crawford would buckle under a few good body shots but he didnt and he looked like he couldnt adapt. Very mid performance from Canelo.

THERE'S ONLY ONE RICKY HATTON

>>150831572
>Theres a ton of asterisks regarding Canelos undisputed status at 168
Really? The only thing you can hold against him at 168 is that he didn't fight Benavidez when he was unanimously the number 1 contender, but other than that he fairly the champs in the division and stayed unbeaten there for years until now.

>>150833414
And now he's fucking dead

>>150833518
No one asked now fuck off back to heem

>>150833664
WALKING ALONG
SINGING ALONG
WALKING IN RICKYS WONDERLAND

>>150787601 (OP)
>Terence Crawford stuns Canelo Alvarez
>calling the /box/ thread that AI generated news headline slop instead of making a tribute to Ricky Hatton

I genuinely hate your fucking guts you soulless bastard. Cunt.

>>150836502
Schizo hours begin

>>150836528
Ricky Hatton just died and that was the best you could come up with your soul is barren

When I get a whiff of that goth girl stank pussy

remember when tyson said "happy new year!" in the middle of may after LOSING to Oleksander Usyk
what was all that about?

>>150836574
Remember when you made a post about cuckolding and BBC porn sites about Anthony Joshua

>>150827309
Groid bedwetter would heem him senseless today Crawpish should tread lightly I say this with no respect

>>150836589
no desu, could you provide a source for that?
here's luke fury saying happy new year
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kesM43vweTw

>>150836574
Brain damage.

>>150836589
>Nonce fantasizes about bbc and cuck porn again.

Canelo may have lost but I still picked him for the right reasons therefore I won. Crawford is still an orc from Mordor btw and will never be an ATG.

>>150836616
>>150836617
https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/150680183/#q150717843

>>150836649
kek https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/150680183/#q150717848 was me tbf

>>150836649
>Nonce posts his own fantasies about bbc and cuck porn again.

>>150836701
>fat sausage fingered hairy mutt who nonces kids
oh im laffin

>>150836532
I knew it was completely ogre when he made that face, it was exactly how he was reacting to bivol beating him up

The hohol scam artist coward is a master of faking injuries we all saw what he did in the first Dubois fight

>>150836713
Post your hand. Post your bag work. Poof. Real men have hair, what are you a hairless twink? I’d fuck you till you love me faggot.

Americans haven't done well in the past 10 years, the American talent pool at heavyweight is impoverished. And then there are no elite American cruiserweights. Plant was the only American at 168 and he lost to Canelo before the Crawford fight happened. Charlo held down 154 for a while but then got beat up by Canelo and faded into obscurity. Americans have also lost their dominance at middleweight and they're only prevalent at 147 and below when i check the boxrec pfp american rankings. It's sad. Vergil Ortiz is American but I don't he's better than Murtazaliev and Xander.

>>150836749
>Being a fat ugly hairy mutt who nonces his niece makes me a man!
Sad life. Can't even fall back to boxing because he gets every fight wrong and everyone he hates keeps winning. Cry about Usyk some more why don't you.

Crawford just beat Canelo for the 168 titles, Adams just beat Bohachuk, Pacheco is gaining traction at 168, David Benavidez is a light heavyweight champion, and I've noticed more American amateurs fighting at the highest level like Joshua Edwards, Patrick O Conor and Nnajai Wright and it seems like a glimmer of hope. Can america escape the slump and produce world champions in the higher weight classes or are they cooked?

>>150836770
You’re not a man. You’re a bug that I’d squash in two seconds flat.

From Middleweight to Heavyweight, like 6 divisions. USA is very poor indeed (apart from Crawford who's 38. and Benavidez)

Light Middleweight to Lightweight you've got a few good fighters there, so it's quite good but they are once a year fighting,overpaid twitter divas.

Lower Weights you are poor

Heavyweight 0
Bridgerweight 0
Cruiserweight 0
Light Heavweight 1
Super Middleweight 2
Middleweight 0
Light Middleweight 2
Welterweight 2
Light Welterweight 3
Lightweight 4
Super Featherweight 1
Featherweight 1
Super Bantamweight 0
Bantamweight 0
Super Flyweight 1
Flyweight 0
Light Flyweight 0
Minimumweight 0

Your American best fighters are highly concentrated around 135lbs to 154lbs.

Away from those few divisions, you are hardly relevant at all at the top.

You took 3 days off to create a good cope and you come back with THAT?

>>150836770
>how DARE you pick the wrong guy in a hecking boxing matcherino
Who the fuck cares? Ushit is losing his entire country I think issues like that are a little more pressing than who lands the most glove taps to the dome

>>150836817
>Nonce gets it wrong and cries some more.
Sad life.

>>150836813
Crawford is actually the younger man, Canelo’s skin and muscles looked like cooked ham with all the inflammation he’s got from all the wars he’s been in. Crawford fighting much less and being in very few wars did him a lot of favours, he was the far fresher fighter. The Mexican style though more entertaining ages fighters faster. The buck style keeps fighters fresh so they can dance around to a decision.
Canelo’s also had multiple knee and hand surgeries.
He fought like it was an exhibition because he’s a family man now and he’s too soft and worn out.

>>150836826
>you can’t pick wrong you literally just can’t ok!!!! You just have to gloat when the fights already over and you didn’t have the balls to make a pick!!!!

>>150836848
>In every way except literal, Crawford is the younger man.

You guys really have the worst general on /sp/ all jokes aside

>>150836863
>Spends months being wrong.
>Cries.

>>150836872
Biological age is different to age are you dim?
>>150836887
You literally reek of rancid curry and other men’s coreys

Hatton won btw
>b-b-but he got KO’d!
Don’t care. Hatton won.

>>150836927
>In every way except literal, the nonce is not a nonce.
Cry more nonce, you'll never learn. Whiter than you, mutt.

Hatton won Hatton won Hatton won Hatton won
Whisper words of wisdom
Hatton won

Hatton?
Hatton won.
…Twice!

>In every way except in reality, Hatton won.
>>150788815

>>150836991
You have room temp IQ

Usoyk is the biggest fraud in combat sports

>>150837145
>>150837160
These are pretty solid
>>150837119
Phwoar

>>150837160
LOL

>>150836771
Depends how Malachi Georges develops, he's the only one on the immediate horizon

>>150837160
>>150837201
>>150837231
LOL

>>150837201
>>150837231
These are really good why did God take him away and leave Fivey who's a terrible poster

>CANelo is a fucking bum
>Crawford is an ATG for beating Canelo

Pick one and only one.

>>150836574
>>150836616
>>150836617
>>150836668
>>150836713
>>150836770
Go back, cuck.

>>150837119
>>150837145
>>150837160
>>150837201
>>150837231
Excellent posts from the Rickster.

>>150836532
>>150836721
It was even ogre way before that. It was in one of the earlier rounds, where he picked up Bud. He was frustrated and knew he was going to lose.

>>150836803
USA has the most p4p talent both in overall total and relative to population size. You can count our mexican americans alone and we have 3 p4p level talents in Bam, Vergil, and Benavidez. That number grows the less specific you get, and that very specific chunk is more talent than what the UK and Mexico can muster in their entirety. You'll be lucky to get one tops in the next 5 years. Japan briefly got 3 guys onto the top 10 but they are above your league.

>>150833518
He hasn't fought a top contender for years my dude. After Bivol it was easy fights agaisnt dudes that weren't even near his level. He didnt fight benavidez. He also didnt fight Morrell, or Mbilli, or Diego Pacheco.

His approach to the Crawford fight was one of a guy too sure of his power and not much else. Of course Crawford was gonna try to outbox him, but Canelo fought him with barely any strategy whatsoever. This tells me Canelo underestimated Crawford and overestimated his own power.

Canelo has been semi retired since the Bivol fights. His fights have been more fanservice than actual challenges.

Of course, even though he wasnt undisputed at 160, beating Golovkin (which i dont belive he did, but it was close) is the same as. He beat the clear best guy in the division at the time.

>>150839412
Vergil isn't even a champ. He got Madrimov, but it was very competitive. Tank, Haney, Boots,Shakur and Teo have accomplished more.

Either way the US has a bunch of talent. This cope about not having heavyweights as if the best British heavyweights of this era haven't been thoroughly embarrassed by a much shorter Ukranian is pathetic. Having your big guys be fodder for Usyk is hardly something to brag about, but the UK is by all metrics a shadow of its former self and I really dont see it getting any better.

>>150839544
Even if he lost GGG 2 it was still very close and highly competitive and he looked good in it. Fast, came in with a different strategy, dug deep and fought through adversity until the end. The Canelo of today couldn't even manage to make a good fight out of it and it has more to do with it than just Bud being an ATG talent and bad style matchup. Bud was beating him on the inside and Canelo looked like he was punching underwater.

>>150839615
I was just mentioning only the mexican americans, not that these were strictly our three best boxers though I am big on Vergil at 154. Teo is honduran and the rest aren't latino. That small chunk can outperform the total output of most countries atm, with all americans included no one is coming close.

>>150836972
There's a picture I found on twitter with him posing with some gigantic gazongas. I'd post but janny would ban me

whens the last 2 guys fought in their prime?

>>150839205
That was in round 5, I don't think that one was out of frustration like the bivol one was, especially since he was probably up after 5, it felt more like he was trying to do it to establish that Crawford was much smaller and less powerful than him to the judges which consequently may have led to bud being much stronger in the clinch in round 6 which is the round where the fights momentum completely shifted in his favour
>>150839544
Pacheco and Mbilli really only became relevant as legit contenders in the last year or so, and even then based on their last few performances, their level doesn't even seem to be higher than that of someone like Mongia (who was also considered a top contender at 168 because of how weak the division is)

>>150841380
Jack Rafferty v Mark Chamberlain

>>150838333
Canelo is a bum. He lost to all the elite prime guys he fought. He lost twice against ggg, lost against bivol, lost to floyd and crawford, and arguably lost to lara too. His undisputed run at 168 was mediocre. The guys he beat all went on to do nothing afterwards. He's also a drug cheat. Barrera, Morales and Marquez are all better mexican fighters and ranked higher.

>>150837201
>>150837160
>>150837231
You /box/ Brits could learn a lot about humor from this man.

>>150836877
I blame the Finn.

>>150841737
He's probably one of the few decent posters here

>>150841937
source?

>>150841957
See >>150841955

>>150841960
That's the first time he's posted tits.
None of his other posts have tits.
He's gonna have to post a lot more tits to make up for all his textslop.

>>150841981
Finny b is a known and highly respected tit poster

>>150789615
Honestly, I rewatched the fight and it wasn't a robbery. It could have went either way so a draw is right

>>150795523
No doubt.

>>150841581
I'll grant you Mungia. That was a good win. I remember thinking Canelo was in a bit of trouble early on with his volume.

I guess im just disappointed in Canelos overall attitude of "ive done enough so I can just coast on by". I think its clear that after the Bivol loss he was less of a risk taker. He was talking about fighting Usyk before that.

But i will say, I watched the Dywer video and saw the compubox numbers, and even though it might be an unpopular take, I think the fight was much closer than what people, myself included, think. The first 6 rounds are all toss ups and I remember thinking Crawford was running from Canelo, even though he was landing some good shots, I remember thinking overall that Canelo looked much more dominant early on, with his body shots, which we all know hurt.

But crawford had a very good showing in the later rounds, and his counter combinations looked very impressive, but there were huge stretches of the fight that he just went on his bike and ran. He was like "ok I landed a good combo, I got the round, time.to disengage". I dont know, I think that being that negative should cost you the round. Its why I think Beterbiev won the first fight agaisnt Bivol. Bivol landed some good crisp shots but a lot of the fight he was just running from BB. Crawford granted wasnt as blatant but he was still running.

I dont know, I think theres some smoke and mirrors going on and I momentarily fell for it. Canelo was disappointed in his conditioning for the later part of the fight but I dont think he thought he was losing going into the second half.

Also Canelo should have fought Benavidez. I dont think hed lose. But since he had lost to Bivol he was afraid to take another risky right.

>>150839746
>I am big on Vergil at 154
I am too, but hes not p4p yet. He needs to do more. But i get you.

Also agreed on GGG 2. It was a great fight where both guys looked great. Maybe being pedantic about it is a bit petty, but its because GGG should have won the first fight.

>>150844165
You can't trust him.

>>150830053
>>150836555
shiggy diggy


>>150844165
>>150844382
Dana knows MMA has zero stars and numbers are going down. The money is in boxing now.

If you want to laugh, watch some MMAers trying to punch

Pears > apples tbqh

Ilia would dog walk Crawford those cans don't generate near this much power from using basic boxing techniques

It would be interesting to see a boxing match with 4 oz gloves, though it would have to be shorter. It is not interesting to see an mmgayer try to box

>>150845149
chuck him in with jake paul see how he gets on

>>150843347
Yes the fight was closer than people think in terms of rounds at the very least. Crawford had all of the big moments later on but he didn't outperform Canelo by that wide of a degree like we've seen in other fights, and the earlier rounds were very close with Canelo's success being unrecognized by people. I remember having it 7-5 to crawford or 8-4 and that's exactly how the judges saw it, the rounds were fairly close even though Crawford was in total control by the end and the story of the fight belonged to him. Rounds aren't a true indicator of a fight's competitiveness in total and I think as boxing fans we forget that sometimes, and Crawford's success surprising people also leads to them overblowing his performance in the ring.

I stay up/wake up for the early ohashi/teiken cards and I've seen some of the regulars complain about certain scorecards for fights like Ioka and Tsutsumi that I saw coming from the judges both times. Bivol-Biev 1 I disagreed with though as well as other cards, but more often than people think there's reason to what the judges decide. Canelo Crawford was both not that close but also not really that one sided either and we'll see a bit more people coming around to those scorecards overtime (though not entirely because the flavor of Bud's schmeat is in season atm). Canelo has had stranger scorecards in the past than here.

When the recency bias and hype does down, people will wake up and realize that Usoyk is as big a fraud as Mayweather.

>>150843347
the fight was very close, people acting like crawford was beating canelo like bivol

is it worth watching any of the undercard fights? i saw bohachuk v adams but any others worth watching?

>>150846923
Mayweather was never undisputed. Usyk has been 3 times

>>150846923
Inshallah.

>>150847778
Usyk also lost 3 times but the mainstream boxing world is trying desperately to pretend it never happened

>>150848307
Oh so you're the VPN pedophile don't bother replying

Have it under good authority DAZN forced Frank to drop Buncey for Ade

>>150849002
ade olapedo

>>150846923
Factual post.

Crawfraud wouldn't last 3 pints against are gypsy King

>>150850279
fury's on his arse after three

>>150845362
You can just watch bareknuckle boxing
>>150847135
That and Mbili-Martinez. Skip the rest

>>150850739
Nah mate, this was like that shady alley in Barry Potter.

Are australian events a meme or is it a jeet issue?

>>150855483
Jeets always seem to be like that so I have to go with them

>>150845883
Unfortunately for you boxing is scored on a ten point system round by round and Crawford literally won every round. The "close" rounds? He won those. Canelo looked visibily frustrated and impotent from round one.
If someone has it 12-0, 11-1, 10-2 its a legit score cuz Canelo was behind in every round of the fight and never did anything but chase him around and lunge in with single shots. Crawford beat him on the outside, on the inside, and in the middle. It was comprehensive, he won the majority of all exchanges at all distances.
7-5 is fucking cope. 8-4 is cope. He dominated more than Floyd did. Just because there's no knockdowns doesn't mean its close. Fight wasn't fucking close.

damn it bros I just found out hatton died. RIP.

>>150856177
You spend the last week on a fishing trawler?

>>150855483
Indian men are scientifically proven to be weaker than the average white woman.

It's no surprise they get their shit pushed in at combat sports.

>ANNOUNCED: The Ring V: Night of the Samurai headlined by Naoya Inoue vs Alan Picasso is set to take place as part of Riyadh Season on Dec 27th at Mohammed Abdo Arena on DAZN.

>Naoya Inoue vs Alan Picasso
Awful fight
>Junto Nakatani vs Sebastian Hernandez
Good fight
>Kenshiro Teraji vs Willibaldo Garcia
Meh
>Taiga Imanaga vs Armando Martinez
Could be interesting
>Reito Tsutsumi vs Leobardo Quintana
Awful fight
>Hayato Tsutsumi vs James Dickens
Meh

Even anime lovers have to admit there's 1.5 good fights here. And I almost forgot
>Mohammed Abdo Arena
Awful venue, awful location

OOOOHHH MOOOHHHAAAMMMMEEEDDDD ABBBBDDDOOOOOO

>>150857307
>Alan Picasso
>Sebastian Hernandez
>Willibaldo Garcia
>Taiga Imanaga
>Armando Martinez
>Leobardo Quintana

tsutsumi v jazza dickens is the only interesting match up

>>150857307
When Ball fight?

>>150857307
>Inogay still ducking Ball
>Midget Japslop

We won't be there.

Never seen someone more terrified of another boxer than Inogay is of Nick Ball, it's comical at this point.

>>150857457
Ball is too big for The Monster

>>150855483
You can literally see the fear in the jeets eyes as he's backing up

>Inogay ducking Ball
>Usoyk ducking Itauma
>Crawford ducking Bivol

These are your ATGs? lol. lmao.

>>150857382
See you there.

Ball is legitimately trash, won't even be Inoue's toughest fight. Pick someone else to slurp

>>150855483
First arm pit KO in history

Tyson Fury singing in the bath tub. Love it.

https://www.instagram.com/tysonfury/reel/DOt4vB1jWdh/

>>150815569
>Ngannou
>draw at worst according to Fearyslurpers

>>150821536
KEEEEK

>>150862964
Usyk might be the champ in the eyes of the fake mainstream media but Fury will always be the people's champ.

We run this poxy general
>>150841955
Excellent post

>>150874749
Fuck off back to heem

spence won the story of the fight

>>150874749
Don't think it happens next but would be nice.

fivey won the story of /box/

Sent the Mrs. a picture of me limp body this morning reminding her I'm still thinking of her

-Ricky

>>150875547
LOL

Crawford and Bivol are the only fighters with wins over current P4P fighters.

>>150876002
Beterbiev

>>150876520
Keep this lewd filth out of heem what is the matter with you

OOOOOOHHHH CCHCHHHRRRIIISSSS BBBIIILLLLLAAAAMMM SSSMMMMIIIIFFFFFFFF

>>150876510
True but to be fair he lost to Bivol twice in reality

There are only four boxers in this generation of boxers who can box until proven otherwise:
>Usyk
>Crawford
>Bivol
>Lomachenko
That’s it. That’s the list. Everyone else is a marketing campaign/bodybuilder trying to box/can set up for the marketing-campaign/bodybuilder to smash/etc. Prove me wrong. You literally can’t.

>>150877809
Fury is the biggest.

Happy Birthday Joe 'The Juggernaut' Joyce.

picaso doenst have the style to beat the jap another awful safe match for the tranny

>>150877809
Teofimo beat Josh Taylor and Loma, despite his other awful performances hes on the edge of that list.

>>150877809
Ushit got his arse outboxed by Fury twice.

>>150878692
>Lomachenko lost to slop boxers
An anomaly. The Slop got one of ours.

you know what, I think jeff horn beat pac fair and square. there should be no universe where that fight should go on for 12 rounds given pacs level at the time. pac got schooled.

>>150787601 (OP)
Mexisisters What are we a nation of now?

do we know ricky hattons cause of death yet?

Bud won closer to 10 rounds than he did to two rounds. They gave him the fight by two rounds. They were prepared to rob him. They tried to rob him. He dominated the fight so much that in spite of the judge's incompetence, they still got the outcome right. But to pretend that he won by two rounds. And for that to not warrant a review is infuriating. There is no reasonable person that understands boxing that agrees with those judges that Crawford won by two rounds.

>>150879806
Don't bite the hands that feed you. Canelo was single handidily carrying the sport for a decade. If the judges don't give close rounds to the superstar it could kill the sport. Fans want dominant champions and dynasties. Ask the NBA how their ratings are now that they have no dynasties.

shit on canelo all you want, but true warriors like him from the past 2 decade are exceedingly rare nowadays. i dont know what happened but all these new age boxers fight more on xitter than they do in the ring.

>>150880140
Canelo and Jon Jones fought a murderers row of fighters then later in their career they decided to duck one or two fighters and fans accuse them of being cowards who ducked everyone.

Fans are retards so props to Mayweather for not giving a shit what people thought and getting the most out of his career.

>>150877809
>marketing campaign/bodybuilder trying to box/can set up for the marketing-campaign/bodybuilder to smash/etc
Think most heavyweights in history fit this description to some extent

>>150880070
He wasn't carrying shit. The establishment forced him on us. Stop giving him credit for shit he didn't do.
>>150879582
I've been wondering this also.

Has Mayweather still not released a statement about Hatton's death? I'm a proud Mayweather nuthugger and enjoyed his doucebag persona but this is crossing the line.

>>150880466
>I'm a proud Mayweather nuthugger
My condolences. Also Pac won

>>150880466
this fucking nog will never acknowledge that ricky gave him a hard ass fight and he had to resort to stuffing his elbow to ricky's throat all fight while Joe Cucktez sat in the corner and watched Western civ burn down.
Fuck mayweather. Where do you think Canelo learned how to be a cherrpicking white coward?

>>150881429
pac won that shit easily but the media knows boxing fans are braindead alcoholic idiots that will believe whatever emotional bullshit script hbo 24/7 heeb writers shit out so, but mayweather ran like a pussy and didnt' do shit all night. fuck him too

Did anyone watch the moore fight? He beat up some fat fuck in nowhere michigan. Heavyweightslop

>>150881510
>Where do you think Canelo learned how to be a cherrpicking white coward?
Canelo fought everyone and took risky fights against bigger fighters, yet later in his career he decides to duck a few guys and you slander him as a coward. You can never please fans like you.

>this fucking nog will never acknowledge that ricky gave him a hard ass fight and he had to resort to stuffing his elbow to ricky's throat
Ricky wouldn't back away from him when the ref told him so Mahomes gave him elbows. You aren't allowed to smother people, this is boxing not wrestling.

>>150881429
Even Pac admits he lost the fight but blamed it on his shoulder injury.

>>150788815
Somebody needs to shoop the old Looney Tunes 'That's All Folks' fadeout to this sequence.

>>150788815
>>150882666
Ricky trained with Mayweather's father for one training camp and complained about overtraining. One taste of Mayweather's life was too much for him to handle. It makes you wonder what crazy shit Floyd Sr put his son through. Mayweather probably didn't know how crazy the training was since that's all he's ever known.

>>150882659
canelo didn't fight everyone. his only challenge was prime golovkin and he shit the bed and waited till his 36th birthday, idiot.

>Ricky wouldn't back away from him when the ref told him so Mahomes gave him elbows. You aren't allowed to smother people, this is boxing not wrestling.
who's mahomes retard, the topic is mayweather getting preferential treatment in fights. He couldn't deal with Hatton's pressure so he shoved his forearm into his throat and the ref looked he other way? is that your claim sir?
Next thing I know you're gonna tell me Canelo knocked out Kovalev irl.

>>150795113
oh, be nicer. He had just changed religions.

>>150882659
>blamed it on his shoulder injury

>>150880070
>number go up
replaced by Netflix

>>150883074
can we also admit that we never really knew how good GGG was. his entire career was spent in the twilight of the dissolution of hbo and showtime where pbc emerged as the hugbox for bums which is also why crawford had to wait until 2023 to get a major fight.
GGG's resume is macklin, domnick guinn, marco antionio rubio, curtis stevens, lol, and then canelo at 36. can we stop pretendin this guy is marvin hagler cuz he fought the worst competition of any mw champion ever. its a joke

>>150880397
canelo was carrying the sport you like it or not. wait until crawford fights for a half empty arena. when canelo lost we all lost.

>>150883074
>kek
i was responding to someone on NFL and copypasted the wrong name

hatton was wrestling Mayweather which forced him to use elbows. hatton doesn't make excuses for losing that fight so not sure why you're doing this.

The GGG vs Canelo fights were uber annoying. Not sure the order but in the first fight GGG ran away the entire time and became a boring counterstriker. Then in the rematch it was Canelo who was backing away and trying to counterattack.

Canelo didn't duck anyone. He went up multiple weight classes which was optional. He could have stayed at his original weight and bullied smaller fighters but he went up to get more challenges, yet you guys accuse him of ducking.

All of us Errol Spence fans got blown the fuck out in that Crawford fight. Spence was the chosen one and was being marketed as the next in line to Mayweather's throne.

>>150883733
Next you'll claim he didn't take roids

>>150883582
boxers don't make the decisions on which networks they fight, so he wasn't carrying shit by definition you abject moron. the networks made a decision on your behalf.
>>150883652
its called inside fighting bitch. i don't remember kostya complaining or fouling. but mayweather got preferential treatment throughout his career. Why do you think Victor Ortiz headbutted him. Lurk more retard.

>>150857382
Isn't Ball is shorter than Inoue though?

Why did Kellerman get so much hate for his take about it would be good for boxing if it had a league like the UFC or NBA?

>>150883921
Max Kellerman is the worst boxing analyst of all time. My IQ drops listening to him. Even Canelo got fed up and called him out during the press conference. He's gay commentary probably killed HBO boxing.

>>150884022
When UFC was popular everyone knew Conor and Ronda Rousey, nobody knows the current boxing champions to the alphabetical soup belts that devalue the league.

>>150884037
Yet despite all the cries that boxing is dying and corrupt and UFC is better, boxers get paid more than UFC fighters by orders of magnitude. UFC stars beg for a pay day in boxing before getting promptly knocked out by Jake Paul. We just had some of the biggest fights in boxing history with a new class of ATGs.

>>150884072
players making more money does not help us fans. In the NBA players get paid too much and act like divas.

>>150884231
You're not fooling me Dana

>>150884231
>In the NBA players get paid too much and act like divas.
Two parts, first there's very few players per team and second, they move a lot of merchandise, given that in addition to jerseys and caps they can also sell shoes which is unique and profitable in sport.
Player moves shoes and the team benefits as the total profile gets lifted.
And the NBA is thee black league so if they weren't allowed in on the money there'd be protests.

>>150884985
>>150884428
>>150884072
All the alphabetical belts have ruined boxing. If selling out our sport to Dana and the Sauidis resulted in there only being one belt per weight class then it's worth it.

Crawford and Usyk gathering all the belts and becoming undisputed is what makes this era interesting again.

>>150885102
Boxing is the one true global sport and I'm okay with it being divided up and then having those champions face off on the big big cards.
If Ring had a Sport Center type thing to keep fans updated on global happenings in a coherent way that would basically change everything.
And that's probably what Dana understands, it's not so much the events but the media tracking as a whole that makes people feel connected.
We need better, engaging and interesting coverage of global boxing.

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