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fagg needs to work on his 3 ASAP

flagg is looking like he will bust

busta flagg

>>151370029
Iggy was more impactful than Steph, though. LeBron deserved it, then Iggy.

need dis :(

>>151370116
Everytime I see this flag, it’s always a retarded post under it. Why?

>>151370150
There's precedent for the FMVP being on the losing team so why shouldn't it be Bron?

>>151370150
You don’t know ball Trenquavious

>>151370084
https://youtu.be/UfXKHEt9FUc
Kill yourself subhuman bumfuck dumbfuck retard.

NUGGETS REALLY TRADED MPJ THE BEST NON WARRIOR 3 PT SHOOTER IN THE LEAGUE FOR TWO USELESS SHITTERS LMFAOOOOOO

>>151370182
Fax my perma-vacation bro

>>151370150
bawbs don’t know ball beyond spreadsheets.

>>151370187
>THE BEST NON WARRIOR 3 PT SHOOTER
This niggas said "non warriors 3 point shooter" as if theres anybody on the warriors whos a good 3 point shooter other than steph? lmfaaooo

>>151370004 (OP)
How do I get an Italian baddie to serve me food?

Is Panama, Australia retards "samefag" vpn flag? Such unison retardation cant just be a coincidence

>>151370187
>THE BEST NON WARRIOR 3 PT SHOOTER IN THE LEAGUE
That's ANT

>>151370064
Of course he will be a bust. Every white top-5 pick ends up that way.

>>151370222
Unrelated but Steph isn't even the best pure shooter in Warriors history, that would be Klay. Not even rage baiting, he has better mechanics and actually played D

A refund for Wiggins would be nice

>>151370258
>changjeet mad that people in more than one continent can spot out his retarded takes
lmao I could understand if you’re upset

>>151370285
Nah it's Seth Curry.

>>151370296
you live in a 3rd world country. whatever “opinion” you have is irrelevant. Your country exists to ships to go through.

Workday just started. Makes sense.

>>151370330
>Proceeds to make the lamest most used ad hominem
Keeeeeeeeekaroooo

>retards trying to bait me with curry takes I've already disproven
Curry could miss every single 3 point shot this season and the next, and he would still be more efficient at 3 career wise than Klay. Thats how ahead currgoat is.

>>151370330
Anyone living in Panama is rich if they're not native ya dumb fuck jeet. Your country is barely first world too

>Curcuck got 0 finals mvp votes in 2015
Imagine letting a role player winning finals mvp LeGod would never.

>>151370402
You have yet to disprove how LeBron went off on all the non iguodala minutes chang

>>151370410
>replying to inceltic seriously

>>151370427
Watch the video i linked bumass retard, I already gave all the evidence. To disprove your retarded narrative requires a complete demolition of not just your narrative, but media narratives, The video isnt even long.

>>151370460
>inceltic out of nowhere
How’s vacation weapschizo?

>>151370482
Bold of you to assume his internet is good enough to run a youtube video.

>>151370425
Imagine a world where KD and LeBron teamed up and KD got FMVP twice over him. Literally impossible

>>151370540
KEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>151370564
Curry’s own teammate admitting that he was crying cause KD took the finals mvp away from KWAB.

i need bam's bbc in my pussy

>>151370600
He begged on his knees to get KD to carry him, and then plotted to alienate him when he did the carry job.

>>151370491
>ousting yourself as a discord troon
kek
>>151370482
The numbers tell a different story sorry

>>151370616
Based

>>151370637
The only troon here, is (You)

>>151370616
Ayesha...

Disappointing Flagg game ngl. He looks pretty good on defense but his offense needs a lot of work. He still hasn't scored more than 11 points in three games. He'll probably average less than 15 in the regular season, which is pretty shit for a #1 pick.

>>151370671
>Team is so shit, irrelevant and boring xhis new gimmick is being leaf jeets second option
And you could have it all... my empire of dirt...

>>151370564
>Imagine a world where KD and LeBron
Fundamentally wouldn't fit together imo. 2011 proved bron needs the ball in his hands as much as possible against a finals tier team. So Bron is always destined for FMVP if he wins.

>>151370222
Saar your English comprehension

Why does steph tolerate ayeshas disrespect?

reminder there's no refunds on all duke products

>>151370745
he's only playing like 20 min a game nigga

>>151370616
They still got this nigga bam playing centrr?

Hold up do we have to pay for Peacock to watch playoff games?

>>151371209
Stop being poor

Are OUR rapties contenders this year?

Give it to me straight. I can take it....

>>151371285
contenders for worst record in the league? yes.

>>151370768
Remember when you posted on /lgbt/ trying to larp as ireshart but you forgot iPhone file names don’t repeat. I do!

>>151371285
Yes. CMB is legit

>>151371285
haven't watched since COVID. Super distrustful after baseball and with how cheat-heavy basketball has always been, I gave up. But recently some guy at my work has been super hyped on the Raps again, and then my other coworkers have been like 50/50 on them being a playoff team, or at a good stage in a rebuild to be a playoff team over the next decade. I'm gonna watch.

If Scottie Barnes doesn't make the leap this year we need to trade his ass ASAP I'm afraid...

>>151371330
inceltic left you so you decided to become leafjeets water boy? no better than bawbaussie trying to become bulgaria 2.0

>>151371413
Trade him to the Spurs, well give you a 2053 2nd round pick

>>151371485
You are the only person trying to associate me with him ya loony schizo

Holy shit, Ayesha really HATES Steph. No wonder he lets her have sex with other guys

is Ace Bailey ROTY?

>>151371627
>>151370875
what?? some stupid new thing she said or something?

>>151371757
Either Ace or Tre Johnson I'd say. It would be Harper but he may not get enough minutes right away. Dark horse: Derik Queen.

>>151371935
has to be a joke

>>151371935
This would be kino if they just repeated 'Bryant" at the end

>>151371935
LeMercenary only loyal to a cheque

So. Is flagg legit or nah? I rlly wanna root for the Mavs again desu

>>151372530
Yeah, shot creation and handle look pretty good. He’ll have ups and downs like any rookie, but he’s clearly an outlier in how well rounded and impactful he is already

>>151372530
He plays like Pippen/Marion/Kirilenko. Hes at best the 2nd or 3rd option on a championship team

>>151372620
As opposed to all of the 18 year olds who were first options on championship teams

>>151372530
>I rlly wanna root for the Mavs again desu
Why root for a team owned by people who hate you and wanna relocate to Vegas

>>151372631
no thats for his career. He doesnt have the athleticism to be the first option, just enough to be the 2nd or 3rd

>>151372530
He's legit but not the kind of player you build your franchise around. He'll be an elite role player like Iguodala or Anunoby.

>>151371386
>Super distrustful after baseball and with how cheat-heavy basketball
I have come to the same conclusion. We can't be the only ones.

>>151372662
His issue is his skill not athleticism. There's numerous #1 options with average or below average athleticism: Jokic, Doncic, Brunson, Steph, Kawhi, Haliburton, etc. Cooper has great size and great athleticism. He's limited mostly by his handle right now.

>>151372727
>Kawhi
?????

>>151372727
>His issue is his skill not athleticism

Its not skills. he showed hes got good IQ and fundamentals and good moves, but he doesnt have that elite athleticism that leads teams to championships. VJ will end up getting ROY and having more impact his rookie season because of his elite athleticsm

>>151372530
no unless he develops a decent 3pt shot
he's gonna get bodied at the pf against legit teams

>>151372727
>Jokic
Hes 7'2", 300 lbs
>Doncic
Hes crafty, like Harden and Manu
>Brunson
2nd rd exit every year
>Steph
Guy who can run continuously for 40 minutes without getting tired
>Kawhi
what?
>Hali
give credit to the coach
What?

>>151372738
>he's gonna get bodied at the pf against legit teams

Hes playing SF this year
AD
PJ
Cooper
Klay
Irving

>>151372731
Even prime Kawhi was not an elite athlete, and certainly these days he is average at best, but he's still an extremely effective score because of his skill.

>>151372736
>>151372772
Low IQ

>>151372772
Both Luka and Harden score top 1% in deceleration in the league or something despite being average or below athletically. Explains why they play so similar. Also jokic is 6'11, 7'0 max

>>151372530
this is not something set in stone. you can follow until disappoints arise if they happen to, then later change your mind. no sweat off your back and no hard feelings.

>>151372727
It's Steph, Jokic, Luka and historically, Bird, CP0, Nash, some others I'm sure (Bird and Dirk were arguably athletic for their size). All of these players are either elite of the elite in 2+ areas of the game, have freakish builds for their style and ALL of them had crazy scoring gravity, elite playmaking or both. Cooper doesn't have a single one of these traits. He'll do well in a specific system as the 2/3 but he's in a limbo state where he's athletic enough to be a menacing defender, but not athletic enough to be a first option. If he can't guard 1-5 and average 20+ points the stupid AD comps are cooked too.

>>151372866
Their games are not dependent on their decel ability. It's a tool they have but they would still basically be just as good without it. They would just adapt and use different moves. Luka is good because of his combination of size and skill. Cooper has better size but worse skill. Skill is much more important than size or athleticism.

>>151372900
There's no reason Flagg can't become a better version of Tatum, with better passing and defense, and that's easily an MVP level player. They're very similar physically and athletically. Tatum was more polished as a scorer coming out, but Flagg is better at everything else.
If you compare their stats at Duke, Flagg had significantly better numbers across the board while being almost a full year younger.

>>151372929
How do you define “polish”? Because Flagg was a higher volume and more efficient scorer, he also got to the line more. About the same percentage of their field goals were assisted also, so shot creation doesn’t go in Tatum’s favour either.

>>151372953
It's an eye test thing. Tatum just looked much more comfortable getting to his own shot in isolation, whereas Cooper can look awkward at times. A lot of Cooper's scoring at Duke came bullying dudes to the rim.

>>151372929
I just think the ceiling isn't there. Also Gaytum never has, or ever will sniff MVP because he's a system baby roleplaying as a first option. If your point of Comp is the second best role-player star (behind Duncan) then the prospects are pretty grim because the Mavs aren't known for making good teams like SA/Boston.

>>151372965
That’s fair, I think it’s a handle thing. The handle is the only real question for me about Flagg’s scoring potential. Athleticism and shooting have always been strengths of his, contrary to what other anon’s have been saying.

>>151373098
He's athletic and skilled I just don't think he has a superstar ceiling

>>151373106
I won’t fight you on superstar ceiling, most don’t have that, and Flagg isn’t a flawless player. But I do think the idea that he can never be more than a second or third option is a bit premature. Most superstars have outlier development once in the league, so “ceilings” based on college and preseason don’t really mean much to me.

https://streamable.com/dts3rb

Wemby equipped that Shaq layup package

NBA Hottakes on which team I think the 2027 FA's will go

>Joker
The Celtics, high iq players and coach and system, everyone can shoot 3s from 50%, when Tatum comes back the fat boy makes them unstoppable,

Lakers is unrealistic and L.A makes it impossible for him to keep a private lowkey life

>Giannis
The Heat, they always have a way to lure big black guys and the NBA will force it, surround Giannis with shooters and the rookies will breakout by then, low tax state and warm weather like Giannis wants similar to Greece

>KAT
Probably L.A or the Wolves, I wouldn't think too much of him, he'd be the dark horse of the guys they wanted to pair with Luka

>7 foot French Gobitch
Likely a backup big on Clippers

>Curry
Like a vet min like Ray Allen was on the heat, Curry likely ring chases to the Celtics or Cavs

>Harden
Very reduced Role on Heat and retires there

>AD
Retires/Injuries and etc

>Kawhi
Likely sticks with clippers or desperately tries to rejoin Spurs if they are somehow contending by then

>Poole
Definitely the Celtics, sucks he's in NO, he's too young and talented to be stuck on the Pelicans where Zion could be injured at any moment and Pelicans lose as a whole again

Celtics is where its at and fits his strengths, it just depends on if him and Curry make amends

>>151373098
>>151373149
Yeah I agree. His handle is what needs the most work for him to become a top tier superstar. I think he can still be a top-10 player though, even if he's never a great iso scorer because of all the other ways he impacts the game. Cooper's floor to me is like a top-15 player in the league. I strongly believe in his drive, work ethic, and IQ, based on everything I've seen and heard about him.

>>151372772
>Steph
>Guy who can run continuously for 40 minutes without getting tired
When you play no defense it's easy to play for 40 minutes without getting tired

>>151373149
Most superstars also comes from a scoring background. It's pretty rare for a defensive minded guy to become a superstar. You gotta be autistic like Kawhi, motivated like Butler, or bullheaded like Garnett to pull it off.

>>151373289
Flagg is way ahead as a scorer compared to where Kawhi and Butler were when they entered the league. He's also much younger.

>>151373181
>7 foot French Gobitch
>Likely a backup big on Clippers

This is probably the most realistic outcome since they like collecting old hags, kek

>>151373181
Curry not retiring on GS would be sad as fuck.

>>151373583
Wow that doesn't sound like a threat to sic the Illuminati on him or anything.

>>151373289
Honestly his offence surpassed his defence at Duke, or was at least on par with it. I don’t think people realise how well he did with a large load, it was incomparable to what guys like Cade, Ant, Paolo, and Tatum did

>>151372530
He is, dont believe the CanadaJeets. They dont know ball.

>>151371285
no

>all my streaming sites have been taken down by glowies
Can a nigga borrow a link?

>>151375615
TvSportsLive has been reliable for me

>>151373583
Even “well mannered” ones liked LeBron are like this. Just casually making threats. Wonder why people don’t like doing business with them, a real mystery

Is Alex Antetokoumpo the missing piece for the Bucks?

>>151375615
sportsurge still looks good

Streets is saying Steve Kerr is the father to Ayesha's child

>>151375637
You need to do business with a 1200 calorie diet, fatty

>>151375618
>>151375676
Thank you, brothas

Kobe invented "girl dad" to rebrand from his rapist past and people still use the phrase, not knowing the origin.

>>151375931
Crazy how they lynched Giddey (RIP he would have been great) but did nothing when Kobe was picking up Vanessa from high school in a rolls royce

wth is a "girl dad"?

Meal. Caramel Pumpkin doughnuts

>>151376019
A cuckold

>>151376019
Guys who make having a daughter their personality.

>>151376024
Goddamn lucky fucker, ive been craving donuts so bad lately. Whered you get those? Store bought? Are they filled? Hate filled donuts

>>151375957
Different times though, like everyone got away with that shit,

Not to mention he was champion and an all star and seen as the second coming of MJ

Giddey was just a roleplayer who still has a long way before he becomes something

>>151376062
I thought it was confirmed bullshit that Kobe raped a girl

>>151375393
What? any reply? Buck Foston but I like their playing style

>>151373520
It wouldn't be sad, Kerr is a retard and doesn't have it as a coach anymore, Curry can arugably snatch a ring especially given the EC has always been shit and Celtics plays far too much into his strengths, Curry can player coach and guide the youngins, it'd be funny seeing Curry and Jokic on the same team,

Knowing Joker, I doubt he sticks around on the Nuggets, he's leaving his options open, I think he'll obviously do what KD/Bron did and listen to phone calls and events and hear the most compelling arguments, he has to, team hopping just isn't frowned upon in this era and the CBA will be renegotiated by 27/28 so we'll see more cap space opened

>>151376080
that's separate from Kobe starting to date his wife when she was a minor.

>>151376080
More accurately Giddey was a pure rookie so ofc he'll be "lynched"

Back to what your saying, Kobe case was too vague cause she didn't even testify

>>151376113
Wasn't she 18?? and with Giddey the girl was much younger

>>151376192
>In November 1999, 17-year-old Vanessa was working as a background dancer for Tha Eastsidaz rap music video "G'd Up" when she met Kobe Bryant, who was on set working on a rap album.[9]

>Their high-profile relationship caused disruptions at her high school, leading Vanessa to complete her senior year at home as an independent study; she graduated in 2000.

Kobe is 4 years older than her.

>>151376080
Kobe 100% did that shit. He went too far and even tried dominating shit too.

>Al Horford says the financials and Jayson Tatum’s injury played a big part in him leaving the Celtics, per @NickFriedell.

>Horford also felt like Boston could no longer compete for a championship.
Kek. Al horford realized everyone can't be injured every year.

>>151376261
Kobe Giddey.

>>151376820
And he thinks Golden State can? Lmao

>>151377001
Yes. Warriors went 22-5 when Steph and Butler both played.

>>151377066
One of those loses was to a dogshit Denver team without Jokic where Aaron Gordon dropped nearly 40 on them. They're a bottom feeder team masquerading as a contender.

Ace bros... it's already fucking over

>>151377066
You know how old they are gonna be this year? Steph will be 38 in March, Butler just turned 36 and Draymond will also be 36 again in March. And Horford who is expected to be their starting center is 39. How is this team gonna survive the regular season? With Seth and Kumnigga? Kerr doesn't even want him on the team, chemistry is gonna be shit

>>151375931
He wasn’t convicted in a court of law so it didn’t happen. You can’t just take every random accusation as fact, that’s retarded

>>151376024
That is such an obscene amount of carbs

>>151377280
>muh carbs
faggot

The KKK took my baby away
they took her away, away from me
The KKK took my baby away
they took her away,away from meee

>>151377162
Blud is already washed

>>151377066
jimmy butler has played 65+ games one time since 2017

>>151377256
>and Kumnigga?
Kumingtard is the only real problem, podz will step up, and if he doesnt, who cares weve got seth and melton by december atleast, might be a problem finding out who should sub in for Horford, and based on shit Kerr has said, I think hes going to be retarded about limiting Horfords minutes like the dude has ever been injury prone or played less than 60 games before coming to warriors.

>>151377355
'minga will be traded probably. Doubt they'll fetch a good return for him though.

>>151370235
Simple. Be a tall, handsome, muscular, rich, dominant and mysterious minotaur with a giant dick.

>>151377523
The ultimate redpill is you just need confidence and riz. I've personally witnessed the short, ugly motherfuckers get bitches. Meanwhile I am tall, white, and handsome but get zero bitches because of crippling autism.

>>151377576
Just a tip, but girls don't typically care about why Curry's prime was better than KD's. You shouldn't lead with that.

>>151377355
>Kumingtard is the only real problem

So all of the starters being out of their primes and over the age of 35 is not a problem? Not to mention that they are in the much much tougher conference

>>151376820
Al didnt see the vision, tatum will be ready for the 'offs shits gonna be a movie.

westbros...

>>151377894
Why don't nobody want him man......

>>151377743
Watching Steph play last year I wouldn’t exactly call him washed

>>151377894
Did no one actually pick up westbrook?

>>151377949
He got his last coach fired by being so washed

>>151372772
>Brunson
>2nd rd exit every year
he was just in the ECF numbnuts

Clearly Russ needs a new agent...

>>151377937
Yeah but his body won't be able to handle regular season and playoffs anymore unless he is not the number 1 option on the team. It wasn't able to last year when he was a year younger, why would it be able this year? Or do you think that this season his opponents will suddenly not be rough with him again like they were last year and they will not double or triple team him every other play?

This team unfortunately is still 80% Curry even with Butler there. And that's just not right, you can't depend so much on a 38 year old player if you want to be a contender. It's not a coincidence that no other team has won a title with this strategy

Nice to see the NBA back. So I can once again waste my time on this shitty washed general instead of going to sleep early like a functioning adult.

Cooper Flagg should've went to Utah. Would've been kino. Imagine a line up with Kessler/Filipowski/Markkanen/Flagg. Dallas fans don't appreciate him because they're too in their feelings about fat boy.

>>151377980
I mean its alot of shiity sub 500 teams in the nba
surely his veteran leadership could help

>>151378956
atlanta

How do we save Lebron's marriage?

>>151378555
Agreed and he could have had a long leash to develop, less pressure etc. I truly think for most players it’s a good thing to be on a shit team for a few years to get used to the NBA. Who knows, maybe the pressure will make him into a diamond, but I worry instead the retarded medical staff in Dallas will just break him, and he won’t learn his position properly having to play pg and shit like that while kyrie is out and they are determined to compete.

>>151379168
Curry and lebron get divorced in the same season lol

>>151378956
This is clearly the work of LeXing and his gang of cronies blacklisting westJOSEPHSMITH from the NBA. You can't tell me no team in the NBA would take westARCEUS off the bench.

Is LeWonTonSoup really afraid that some crappy team like the Hawks signs westGANESH and he drags them to the finals?

>>151379168
A boat of lies floating on a balco oil soup washed down with hennesy swill.

punish the clippers

>>151379168
lebum and gaymond will get married

Russ come to Partizan bro

>>151379535
He's going to pick a fight with the crowd his first game. Blud was too sensitive for Lakers fans.

>>151379195
wow, except harden kyrie and malone they look fucking disgusting
maybe that thing about people not being able to appraise attractiveness of different races is true

Will he get us our 6th in a row?

>>151379217
Klutch mafia keeping brodie down brings a tear to my eye god damn

>>151380088
No worries westbro China will save him.

>>151380281
>makes fried rice for 10M
>signs a 10 day and balls out
this is the way

yo, so i was watching a youtube video analyzing the warriors chances this season based on health concerns and an analysis of how many games the warriors ever win without curry.

and it just made me realize the kind of insane kind of propaganda people must have been pumping out to say shit like "The Nuggets suck!", "The Nuggets are ass!", "Without Jokic the nuggets are the worst offense in the league (apparently theres an actual advanced stat for this, no win numbers, just offensive rating or whatever)", "Jokic elevates his team like no other, only rivaled by...shai".
While for a good part of the 2020s, Curry has literally had some of the worst, most middling teams, that GENUINELY cannot win shit without him ever.

If any NBA tuber is in this thread, I would seriously entertain a video where somebody goes on a deep dive of how many games nuggets win without Jokic vs Curry. Doesnt have to be controlled for only Jokic (So for example if Murray is out for one of those games Jokic misses too it counts, as it would for Curry when Butler is out for a game) Because I seriously heard somebody recently say that 2023 was one of the biggest carry job championships ever, and it had me going insane like wtf???

>>151378441
>It's not a coincidence that no other team has won a title with this strategy
Which is why if he wins with this situation, itll be a greater carry job than Dirk, Hakeem, and one of the greatest championships ever. No joke, both of those teams I just mentioned are heavily underrated.

>PG: Josh Giddey
>SG: Coby White
>SF: Isaac Okoro
>PF: Matas Buzelis
>C: Corpse of Nikola Vucevic
>Bench: Ayo Dosunmu, Patrick Williams, Julian Philips, Dalen Terry, Jalen Smith, Zach Collins, Kevin Huerter, Tre Jones
Realistically, who can stop this team in the East?

When did the thread become two Canadians making 80% of the posts

>>151380496
my rapshits

>>151379195
>>151379814
Blacks are just extremely ugly

>>151380447
why you acting like you need an "NBA tuber" to answer this question and not 3 seconds of looking it up

Perk knows ball.

>>151380619
I don’t think I’ve ever seen perk gloss a white player before. Maybe he’s only mostly racist

>>151380618
because that stat muse site can objectively be retarded and miss some info arbitrarily

>>151380676
The goal is to shit on Luka who is a White MVP candidate and will be for the next 5 years. Niggers are terrified of another 5 year period where Whitey is the best player in the world, so they're okay glazing a good player to make him look worse

>Ireshart will be blocked in 60 days
LOL
Fuck Chris Paul.

>>151380765
I thought it was the britbongs who are getting blocked.

>>151380765
>Ireshart
It's Irechomo/Irediddy actually

>>151380690
are you retarded
feel free to go through season by season and tell me where it goes wrong. here's last season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nuggets-record-without-jokic-last-season
>The Denver Nuggets were 4-8 without Nikola Jokić in 2024-25.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jokicni01/gamelog/2025/
> 11 2024-11-15 DEN @ NOP L, 94-101
>12 2024-11-17 DEN @ MEM L, 90-105
>13 2024-11-19 DEN @ MEM W, 122-110
>35 2025-01-07 DEN BOS L, 106-118
>36 2025-01-08 DEN LAC W, 126-103
> 40 2025-01-15 DEN HOU L, 108-128
>69 2025-03-17 DEN @ GSW W, 114-105
>70 2025-03-19 DEN @ LAL L, 108-120
>71 2025-03-21 DEN @ POR L, 109-128
>72 2025-03-23 DEN @ HOU W, 116-111
>73 2025-03-24 DEN CHI L, 119-129
> 77 2025-04-02 DEN SAS L, 106-113
12 games, 8 losses, 4 wins, shocker
I think you're the one who's been subjected to "insane propaganda" if you can't trust your lying eyes and the objective facts because they don't give you the answer you wanted

>>151380787
It's the UK.
>>151380619
>Perk
>knowing about IQ
LOL

>>151380474
Dirk wasn't "carrying" his ring was badass but he legitmately had help, Terry literally dropped like 100 3s in the game 4 against Lakers

>>151380748
Ok schizo. How the fuck is praising Cooper equivalent to shitting on Luka in your retarded mind? He's literally comparing a white rookie to the GOAT, and you think that's pushing an anti-white agenda?

>>151380861
He's setting the expectations unrealistically high so that when he inevitably fails to reach them, we can all say he's a bust.

>>151380803
>are you retarded
Are YOU fucking retarded or socially inept? Somebody stating that something is unreliable doesnt get disproven by showing the one time or instance its reliable. Retard. GTFOH.

>>151380619
He gives me retard vibes, I dont like hearing him speak.

>>151380861
>Ok schizo
Write another essay about Curcuck you pindick subhuman jeet
>He's literally comparing a white rookie to the GOAT, and you think that's pushing an anti-white agenda?
He's shilling for Cooper to spite Luka you dumb fuck indian. It's also equally because they hate non-American Whites more because every White American is a wigger who worships niggers like you do.

>Retard. GTFOH.
Ironic desu

>>151379814
Curry looks decent, although its pretty fucking obvious Curry is more white than black, so no point on putting him in there

Same with Wilt Chamberlain, dude looked whiter than Arnold in some movie set photos

Lebron looks ok as well,

>>151380748
>>151380619
I think its just being pro-american over non-american, you never want to mesh the waters and Flagg is an interesting player 6'9 worked hard in rural maine growing up,

Cause at the end of the day, when Olympics comes around again you don't want Luka and other euros to be revealing your weakness, injuries and your tacticcs to other players and coaches,

I don't think black nba players are racist, they're just stirring up the pot,

>>151380918
>Somebody stating that something is unreliable doesnt get disproven by showing the one time or instance its reliable.
lmfao so the answer is that yes, you are retarded. in the future you can just say that
if there's a composite stat that's a sum of every win or loss when they don't field jokic or curry, and you can trivially find the stats for each individual season, you can sum them all for some range and see if it matches what statmuse says. if you can't find a situation where it gets the query wrong, you don't just get to handwave and say "well it doesn't say curry's the goat carry so I can ignore it"
you sound like a 90 year old who talks about how the wifi is angry at them, if the answer works for a single season and a date range I would bet at least a grand that every one of those numbers I generated is correct

>>151380929
>>151380958
Shut up BAWB, nobody cares about your midwit opinions. We are DONE listening to yts, y'all ain't right.

>>151380888
I think the Mavs trade was retarded but we're forgetting how fucking fat Luka was and that he was literally and figuratively becoming White Zion, in his refusal to diet and listen, and then had to extend him, and its like "fuck no"

The only mistake was trading him to LA rather than Spurs, OKC, or Celtics, teams with more depth and picks compared to LeGMs shitty disaster with Lakers, that have no picks until 2050

So far Flagg is 18 and looks fucking decent compared to actual busts like Zaccharie Risacher

>>151381041
>>151380888
>Busts

And Ousmane Dieng who's been on OKC for 2 years and is still dogshit

>>151380996
You havent said anything. You dont know anything about ball or stats. You probably think Top 10 or 5 defense or offense captures anything or that Kobes True Shooting was subpar. Not responding to you, you havent made an argument anyway and my point stands. I was almost going to answer more indepth why a thorough video is important for stuff like this. But I bet you also think Lebron had his worst shooting splits against Iguadola in the 2015 finals.

>>151380985
>I don't think black nba players are racist, they're just stirring up the pot,
No, a lot of them are definitely racist to varying degrees.

>>151381082
goddamn it's like you just went down the list pushing every cope excuse button you have to squirm out of having to think or stand up for yourself
>you havent made an argument anyway and my point stands
here's your first point
>deep dive of how many games nuggets win without Jokic vs Curry. Doesnt have to be controlled for only Jokic (So for example if Murray is out for one of those games Jokic misses too it counts, as it would for Curry when Butler is out for a game)
that's what you asked for and that's exactly what I gave you. records of the teams without curry or jokic, not controlled for the rest of the team. EXACTLY what I gave you, and then you didn't like the answer and ran away
here's your second point
>that stat muse site can objectively be retarded and miss some info arbitrarily
boomer-tier "this website is lying to me, you can't trust the technology these days" cope, when the numbers can be verified in 5 minutes. I did 1/5 of one for you even
here's your third point
>Somebody stating that something is unreliable doesnt get disproven by showing the one time or instance its reliable
it does actually get disproven, because it's a formula for verifying the reliability or unreliability of the provided answer. you can cut statmuse out of the picture and find out for yourself even, it doesn't take any more complicated math than addition, only one of the numbers goes up to 3 digits
now tell me more about how the electrical infetterance prevents you from looking at reality, and how you need goatsniper30splashbro to give you some sculpted subset of that reality that you like more with fancy graphics and 12 ads so you can pretend you're intelligent enough to think it through and justify your confirmation bias conclusion on your own

>>151380929
If his goal was to shit on Luka, he could just do that directly without praising another white player for no reason. You're a dumbass.

>>151381029
Damn a man cant just beat his meat in piece?
Atleast he can say get your hand off my penis!

>>151381221
>You need to be explicit to push an agenda
Quintessential display of third world IQ

>>151381290
I guess Scal is also pushing an anti-white, anti-Luka agenda with these remarks, right retard?

I unironically believe the warriors will fight for 1st seed

>>151381379
>Drawing comparison with a guy who doesn't have a history of anti-White agendas
Keep showing how low IQ you are, thirdie. Mentally ill, brown and retarded. Pick a struggle buddy

>>151381453
Oh, so you're logic is if a person with an anti-white history makes any statement whatsoever, it must always be in service of an ulterior anti-white agenda.
You're really showing off the power of your superior white IQ. Great job.

>>151381569
>Oh, so you're logic
SAAAAARRRRRR YOU DID NOT DO THE NEEDFUL SAR

>>151381608
I made a typo. Of course it's a well-known high IQ behavior to nitpick irrelevant details instead of focusing on the content of someone's argument. You win again.

>>151381409
hell nah

>>151381029
why are all bawbs like this

>>151381186
I've come back after calming down knowing youre a retard and
>that's what you asked for and that's exactly what I gave you. records of the teams without curry or jokic, not controlled for the rest of the team.
This is the only thing I was wrong about, I should have accounted for the fact that Murray is injury prone and he will skew the results more than anybody curry plays with, also doesnt help that curry has a larger sample size of missed games, so higher possibility for that to include won games against bottom tier teams.

This is exactly why a thorough video is important. Also youre a retard so you missed the point lf me bringing up top 5 or 10 defense or offense, maybe youll realize it now tho

>>151381909
Its just in dere culture

scary

>>151382125
The taller he gets the more health issues and sooner his career ends

>>151382136
The spurs will make sure he shoots 60% of his shots from 37ft or more.

>>151382192
his biggest threat is somebody crashing into his legs and there's nothing you can really do about that

>>151382209
keep Embiid on the bench would go a long way

>>151382125
One of his weakness for now is he'll get boxout by other bigs unless he develops some post moves.

Is it safe to assume the future big 3 of european basketball will be france germany and turkey? Serbia and greece seem to decline every year. Finland might be good too with Lauri and that one wigger who made news at EuroBasket.

>>151382328
Germany is getting older, but you are set till the next olympics.
As long as Serbia and Slovenia do not get some actual young talent or nba injection, you are right

>>151382257
should start a campaign for all those heifers in the wnba. women would be pissed.

Lol what, do the NPCs who roam the interent even watch ball? maybe I have to wait for more votes to come in lmfao...

>>151373181
>Like a vet min like Ray Allen was on the heat, Curry likely ring chases to the Celtics or Cavs
might be the dumbest take ever

Deandre Hunter might win 6MOTY if he plays like this the entire season

>>151382700
real ones preferred this over lebitch

>>151382700
>Gets Ball instead of Tatum, Fox, or Markkahen
>Gets Ingram instead of Brown, Hield, Murray, Sabonis, Siakam, or Zubac

>>151382700
Kendall Marshall Era for me personally

Westbrook, Bol Bol, Ben Simmons, Talen Horton Tucker and Deandre Jordan are all out the league now barring unforeseen signings

>>151382662
Most NBA fans don’t actually watch games compared to like NFL where there are fewer games you can catch for free

>>151381041
>he was literally and figuratively becoming White Zion

This is a good time to remind everybody that Zion has never played a single playoff game

Good evening folks, time for Rockets basketball

If Ihart develops a 3 it's over for the league

Damn this game looks like a pre-season game wow. A slopfest all over.

He's in.

How's my boy Reed doing?

LuDEMON playing against his son today

>>151383527
He’s only been playing a couple minutes but not great so far

>>151383527
Update: Reed’s been cooking now that a decent lineups on the floor

>>151383228
Didn’t he used to have a good three pointer on the Rockets or Clippers?

What happened to my man Boguljub?

Alvarado just tried to tackle Amen bro what the fuck

Amen Thompson just punched somebody. Classless thug.

Lmao anybody else watch the cavs tic tac toe where the urkel looking nigga missed a layup 3x and got cooked by the white turbomanlet? BABBs get your shit together

You guys need to stop fighting about Luka/Cooper. While you’re all debating about who the Great White Hope is (it was Jokic anyway, they straddled him with a team of retarded, constantly-injured G-Leaguers so that he wouldn’t accomplish much), Josh Giddey and Matas Buzelis are going to be the BEST PG-PF combo in NBA HISTORY. It’s going to be like having a White 6’8 Oscar Robertson and a White Kevin Durant.

>>151383939
>refs determine it was merely just a loose ball foul on both players
anon…

>>151384057
Amen got a flagrant 1.

>>151383977
We all watching Shai vs Giannis lil bro

Also, I wanted to let you guys know that I bought, and received, a Luka Lakers jersey and a Cooper Mavs jersey. I don’t regret my purchase at all.

>>151384075
Doesn’t really matter. Both players are still on the court is mostly the point and no lasting consequences will come of it.

>>151384297
The point is he's a classless thug. It's a matter of time before he does something stupid and gets himself barred from the league.

My nuggies are absolutely winning the title this year.

giannis thinking about joining the thunders after this quarter

My nuggies :)

Watching the Nugs and drinking Coronas ask me anything

>>151384596
what do you think of matas buzelas

>>151384596
Coronas with lime or raw?

>>151384350
>pushing off some little nigga who’s literally tackling him is the same as a violent assault

What the fuck is a brain supplement and why are they showing ads for them in the US?

Who's your World vs USA all star game starting 5?

World: Murray, Luka, Giannis, Jokic, Wemby

USA: SGA, Edwards, Tatum , Zion, Towns

>>151384674
I'm about to go to the store for some lime

Amen GODson is currently 4/5 shooting 3s this preseason

>>151382662
all four of them would wind up like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ICBi-ku-G0
except it'd be every play

No offense but it feels like some of the posters here are mentally unwell.

>>151384760
fax

Yeah, I'm thinking healthy Murray is back

>>151385058
He's looking like Jerami Grant with that haircut

What happens if Joker wins MVP + Finals MVP and ring this year. Would that put him top-10?

>>151385224
He'd be Larry Bird Tier if he's not already

>>151384350
Reddit Thompson is a violent ape. All he can do is throw suckerpunches. Remember when 6 foot Rozier bodied that pussy kek

>>151385369
Lol who the fuck malds over Amen

>>151383922
short guys are always dirty there are no exceptions

>>151384739
>go to the store
this dickhead drinking and driving

>>151384739
>USA: SGA, Edwards, Tatum , Zion, Towns
You retarded?

>portland not booing the anthem
trump won

>>151385393
>attacking players unprompted is ok if it's our reddit darling

>>151385459
it's walking distance away. leaving now

Damn wtf Ayton putting in effort what klutch got on him

cornball thinks hes bron

Rockets win
ggs Pels
A very VERY raw product out there. You can tell they are still reformulating their offense after losing their PG.

Boban Marjanovic: “I’m 7’4”. I’m looking >up at Victor Wembanyama like… no way.”
>Brian Windhorst: “I think he’s approaching 7’7.”
It's gotta be a condition at this point even with a 6'6 dad and 6'2 mom

>>151385642
>xhe is already seething about Amen in the preseason
>it’s over Amen pushing off a dude hugging him
>nobody even got ejected for it and both players went back to guarding each other like nothing happened
Amen GODson chads shall suffer not false narrative retards

>>151386312
BASED

How come everyone always says curry is over the hill and washed but any time I see the warriors play even in pre season, the other teams defense acts like it’s defcon 1 emergency when curry gets anywhere near the 3 pt line. Like, other nba teams seem to think he’s still dangerous

Can't wait for the start of the Lakers white dynasty next year.

Luka looks so bad Jesus Christ. No wonder he's ducking Flagg tomorrow.

valanciunas is genuinely, a handsome man

>>151386402
>but any time I see the warriors play even in pre season, the other teams defense acts like it’s defcon 1 emergency when curry gets anywhere near the 3 pt line. Like, other nba teams seem to think he’s still dangerous
Because hes the goat. The Goat.

>>151386652
He is. Sadly he has a small penis.

>>151381945
>I've come back after calming down knowing youre a retard
you love this "come up with a conclusion and work backwards twisting yourself into knots to justify it" thing
>I should have accounted for the fact that Murray is injury prone and he will skew the results more than anybody curry plays with
since jokic became a starter, murray played all 6 of his missed games 2016-2017, all 7 2017-2018, 1/2 2018-2019, 0/0 2019-2020, 0/0 2020-2021, 0/8 2021-2022, 6/13 2022-2023, 1/3 2023-2024, 9/12 2024-2025, or ~58% of games he missed (these sum to 51 btw, just like statmuse said. hmm)
of the 21 games murray AND jokic missed, the average opponent seed was 7.3, and they won 7/21, or 33%, compared to the 37% (19-32) figure I provided
with some simple (for some of us) math, we can see the murray+no jokic winrate is 12-18, or 40%. his opponents' average seeds in those games? 8.1
so your sample size argument's completely bunk because overall the average opponent seed in both sets (7.728) rounds to 8 and verges on the higher side, not lower, murray without jokic is still an 11-seed tier team, and his marginally better performance comes in part from playing weaker teams
you might say "an 11-seed without the carry is pretty good," but that's the best part. his 40% wr is the EXACT same as the 72-108 warriors sans steph record, who you JUST told me had a more reliable & consistent team. again, that wr is the same as JUST murray games
>youre a retard so you missed the point lf me bringing up top 5 or 10 defense or offense
yes, I ignored you bringing up something random 5 posts in in order to scrounge for a point, your first post had you deriding the concept of isolated offense stats as arbitrary propaganda if you recall, so I never mentioned them, only the metrics YOU asked for and YOU wanted to judge by

btw can I get your yt patreonbux and ad money since I did the dark magic of looking up something when I wanted to know the answer to it instead of praying for deliverance

>>151386693
Proof?

why couldn't jokic just do this in game 7?

>get a steal
>instead of going for a dunk stop at the 3 point line and miss
This livers guy is a certified gay faggot

Jamal all star?

>>151386829
not strong enough, just fat

>>151386174
>It's Time
for a play-in seed

>>151386882
only against sub-0.500 teams

my warriors fuarking suck!

i almost feel bad for how bad kuminga is

bros I love jval
I can't believe they wasted years on 80 y/o deandre jordan as the backup center

>>151382775
Lonzo in Chicago before his knee exploded is better than Fox

Imagine the Lakers with $53m of extra depth without LeMickey

>>151387085
why don't they just paul pierce it instead of getting carried out all drama and like

>>151386312
Epic reddit post xir.

>>151386349
Then the ape got bodied by Rozier.

>jrue holiday scores
>arena plays holiday by green day

Ayo, my man ayton looking pretty good today

>>151387498
Feels good having a center who can just rebound. Jaxs was so bad.

>>151387475
cute! Blazers are going to be good this season.

lmao Goodwin tried the Tatum pushoff but refs said nuh uh, you haven't earned that privilege yet

Lushart and Aydumb getting glazed for looking good against 2nd and 3nd string Buns players and they won't even win LMFAO

>>151387913
>ragebaiting in preseason
you are better than this anon

>>151387934
coper harder, "Jared Butler" owns you lmao

Finally LeMickey can sit his old ass down and let these white boys cook.

>>151388094
>coper harder
bad turnover there. I can see why you are trying to get your preseason reps in now. Carry the hell on.

>Marcus Smart in 20 minutes
0 points, 0 FGA, 0 rebounds, 0 steals, 0 blocks, 1 assist.
Wtf was this nigga doing out there??

Lakers went from a 10 pts lead to losing by almost 10 pts.
Final verdict: Lakers bench sucks. Hope they get it together when the real season starts

Someone here the other day told me that my rapshits are contenders so that's gonna be my expectations heading into the season. Carry the hell on...

>>151388129
>haha you did a typo
annnnnd you lost. better luck next timer!

Y'all ever notice how Jokic fanboys always be middle aged white dudes? The streets don't fuck with Joker.

The Lakers, with their starting lineup minus LeBrick, lost to the Suns' G League team despite shooting 20 more free throws.
Final verdict: The Lakers can't defend, their team stinks, and LeMickey will be eliminated in the first round again.

>>151388222
trips of truth

>>151388363
no rui

>>151383047
yea but the horrific injury risk was a ticking time bomb,

They didn't want a Joel Embiid situation,

https://youtu.be/nVCYTemaPBA?t=4m22s
Man Idky but I really hate this pivot spin move bullshit, just makes any random no name bum with the ball look sick because they picked up their dribble early. I hate seeing this shit now, looks cheap

Would Fluka and his Lakeshits beat the Guangzhou Loong Lions without a +20 FT differential?

>>151383767
Sent back to Serbia for a year. ICE got him.

Holy.... shit...

Phoenix is actually gonna make the playoffs, the Lakers are fucked...

They won that KD trade in far too many ways, I knew Hayes Davis was gonna be a problem, and Butler and Goodwin was a steal...


>>151388363
I doubt they'll even make the playoffs, this is horrifying... 20 more FTs and still got assraped

>>151388540
>David Duke Jr

>>151388540
who the fuck are these mfers???? preseason is so fucking odd because the most random mfers youll never ever hear about again just randomly be dropping 30, what the fuck is this league lmfao????

>>151388533
>>151383767
He's finishing off his basketball career in Serbia and then will play next season for the bucks

His name is retarded tho, just change the name to Brandon or Brad or Bradley


https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfeed/bucks-draft-pick-bogoljub-markovic-return-overseas-serbia

>As expected, Bogoljub Markovic will be returning back to Mega Basket for another year overseas before making his NBA debut. Markovic was the 47th pick in the 2025 draft, and averaged 8 PTS, 2 REB, and 1 AST on 48% shooting over five Summer League games for the Bucks. The 6’10, 20 year old will now lead and mentor a very talented young squad overseas filled with tons of prospects.

>>151388569
Hayes was a fucking beast in Euroleague and won MVP there,

He's gonna be a beast once he converts back to the NBA style,

not sure about Butler, im guessing he's a Dinwiddie type and the ball being in his hands more allowed him to go off


>>151388554
And he's black lol, not even lightskin

is the sign for the things to come for lakeshit?

Lakers will lock in once Luka and Bron take away Aytons PS5

>>151388569
It's not surprising at all. The Lakers' roster is an absolute mess. They must be eager for LeMickey to leave as soon as possible so they can rebuild and invest in Luka

>>151388630
Well, Luka is probably gonna regret signing that Lakers extension given he'll end up missing the playoffs for the first time in a while lol

>Pat Spencer
>Buddy Hield
>GP2
>Quinten Post
>And fucking who????
Nigga what the fuck is Kerr fucking doing with this lineup???? This dude is seriously just experimenting like hes playing 2k for a youtube video kek

>>151386635
babb cope

>>151388703
when the roster is proper poo beyond aging Curry might as well make it fun

https://youtu.be/oDj1tdhuNUA?t=7m26s
Look at this and tell me right now that Curry isnt the greatest player youve witnessed play the game

>>151388750
one-trick pony

>>151388703
That's basically the second unit. Just swap Will Richard for Kuminga. If anything happens to Jimmy or Steph, they're screwed.

Honestly, been taking another look at Kumingas games, and hes making a concerted effort to pass and see the court more. Could this nigga actually possibly step up this season? I want Kerr to stop playing him at the 4, so that he has absolutely zero fucking excuses for mistakes. Otherwise, if Kuminga develops better court understanding (finally). He could honestly be the most valuable youngin, because look dude, its not like any of the other youngins can really shoot either other than QP, so if Kuminga can basically do what Podz is doing but better, things could look up.

Lakeshits will lead the league in FTAs this year all to get belted out of the 'yins by the Spurs, bet the house on it.

ETA on Lakers "lifelongs" turning on Ayyyton?

>>151388363
>despite shooting 20 more free throws
>Lakers 28fts - Suns 8fts
Lmao I thought you were joking. Its fucking preseason, what the fuck are the refs doing?

>>151388958
Nuggets got 41 FT today

>>151388968
>Nuggets got 41 FT today
What The Fuck Are The Refs Doing!! SILVER!!!

>>151388871
Kuminga won't be Butler in a year. Jimmy is the best point forward in the league. When he leads the offence, Kerr's Winterian memes tactics work. That he's much better than Podz or Moody is not even up for debate; those latter players are extremely limited. The point is that Jimmy is the system and Dray is extremely important on defence. So they need to surround them with elite shooters to compensate for their lack of shooting. That's why they signed Al and Seth. JK is gonna fail because you can't put a guy like him in to pass or defend. It's not so much a question of whether Jonathan is good or not, but rather that Steve wants him out so he can bring in someone who fits in with Jimmy, and he's using him in a way he doesn't like. He will fail there due to lack of aptitude and mood

Nobody will talk about this, or maybe they will in about a decade or after Lebron retires, but everybody talks about how Jordan shut down the entire league for a decade with his two threepeats. Unironically, Lebron altered the entire league and forced everybody to create a superteam to stop him. I don't think there's been a point in NBA history besides maybe... Jazz in the 90s that built a superteam to stop a single player. But Lebron singlehandedly forced the 2017 Warriors into existence, same with the Rockets, Celtics, Thunder, Nets. All of them were a product of Lebron because he was unstoppable. Now that Lebron is about to retire, not in the playoffs as much, teams don't have to gameplan around a singular player. That singular player might eventually be Giannis but Giannis has massive gaping holes in his game that Lebron didn't really have once 2010 came around. I can't think of an unstoppable player at the moment.

>>151388750
hey buddy, you missed my reply >>151386761

>>151389072
>JK is gonna fail because you can't put a guy like him in to pass or defend.
Thats what we'll see come this post season and post post season, hes making a much more concerted effort to pass, yes, 5 turnovers, but turnover ratio increases the riskier passes you make. People will try to excuse Magic Johnsons turnovers because "hes just passing that much" but John Stockton already proved making a lot of passes doesnt have to mean a lot of turnovers, and yet Magic is the better, and best passer because the type of passes he was going for generated the highest caliber shots, aka the shots most likely to actually go in.

Obviously this doesnt mean that every retard that starts passing a lot and generating historical turnovers is the next coming of Magic Johnson, Westbrook is just the obvious counterexample to that (although Westbrook was much worse on almost every other offensive end, which is ironic considering that Magic isnt known for being a shooter and yet was more efficient than Westbrick.)

Im just trying to cope hard and be optimistic and try to give Kumingtard a break, hoping that this new fondness for passing means he wont be a liability on the court.

Also even if Kumingtard cant shoot the 3ball, if he could atleast shoot the long 2, that would still probably create more space than Jimmy. But at that point im asking Kuminga to basically just be SGA.

>>151389198
You didnt really make an argument that disproved any of my assertions. I dont know what you expected. The fact at all that the Murray equation throws the narrative out of wack is proof at all. The "missed games" thing was never an argument to arbitrarily prove what "seed" the team is without the player. I dont really care what you say, you didnt really make an argument the sample size is impossibly small to make such a judgement, all I needed, was to disprove the implication that the Nuggets without Jokic is THE worst team Offensively in the league.

I have no reason to trust such shallow contextless stats, and without justification, its just a narrative to serve a confirmation biasing purpose.

Your information already proved what I suspected. I dont know why Id entertain your retardation any longer.

People are going to blame Ayton but the fact that he was saying how he hasn't even played with both Luka and bron yet is all you need to know when they dont even make the play-in.

>>151389088
No it’s more like teams had to create super teams to beat the super teams LeBron built.

>>151389256
>disproved any of my assertions
I did, in fact, directly address and refute every way you thought the data might've been skewed, after telling you what it said
>fact at all that the Murray equation throws the narrative out of wack is proof at all
wow... you lose more games missing two starters than one... stats are a lie...
you thought murray's presence or absence was a bigger difference maker than any individual on the warriors, and yet guaranteeing murray is on the team doesn't raise the nuggets' wr above the warrior's average wr without curry with an enormous sample size. don't try to pretend you were saying something different, you clearly spelled that out
>"missed games" thing was never an argument to arbitrarily prove what "seed" the team is without the player
that was just for illustrative purposes, it's just the on-off %wr rephrased which is the only thing that matters, and the thing you were interested in
>sample size is impossibly small to make such a judgement
51 games? that's more than luka played last year. that's every game jokic has ever missed from the day he became a starter, you cannot get any more data, any more sample size, you either want the answer or you don't
>disprove the implication that the Nuggets without Jokic is THE worst team Offensively in the league
nope, you were asking about pure WINS and deriding the idea of isolating offense as propaganda, reread >>151380447
>I have no reason to trust such shallow contextless stats
you would if they backed you up
>without justification, its just a narrative to serve a confirmation biasing purpose
it is 100% exactly what you wanted to know before it didn't give you the answer you wanted. I have altered 0 inquiries, 0 formulas, provided 0 of my own biases, I just repeatedly told you the truth you asked for
you really are fucking stupid, and you think you're smart too which makes it way worse

I don't think people realise just how shit the Lakers are. There are contenders who have 7th or even 8th men that are better players than Rui/Trando/Smart (the players competing for a starting spot). DA is good, but his ceiling is only higher because of Luka. AR is one of the best third options ITL but his defence makes it harder to fit with Luka. LeBron can plug the holes but he's dealing with injuries and has motor issues in Q4 (While DA might for an entire game, as a 28 year old). Literally every recent addition/project is either not developing toward their ceiling, or can't reach it anymore. Tranderbilt can't shoot, Marcus isn't healthy, Thiero is a massive WIP and Knecht is almost a lost cause while formerly being worth a FRP. Rui is good, but he's a gravity merchant who is better as an overpriced asset for a good return unless he settles for a team friendly contract. Luka, AR and LeBron are the only bright spots while simultaneously leaving a black hole in the defence. DA and LeBron will be the most consistent defenders who can actually score, but their motor issues need to be fixed. Even then, the best possible defence DA can run doesn't hold a candle to most of the T20 C's. LaRavia's offence isn't make or break like Trando or Smarts, but it's important that he breaks out too. No assets, fucked up every off season, only hope is Luka and AR who have also been doing the recruiting for them. Every GM is lowballing their mid assets and would rather lose them entirely than risk losing a trade. The only saving grace for this team is Luka, and he's being expected to wait two years of his prime before they fish for another superstar and contend by the time he's 28. Which is retarded because they're risking even more years of Luka's prime for what might be a bad fit. Losing to the Sun's G league call-ups is the bad omen I need to fully believe Lakers have 0 chance this year.

>>151375931
he's not a rapist. he's just an unfaithful cheater
t. laker fan

Leinjuredbum

Suns bros...we're so back...

>>151370285
but what does playing D have to do with being a pure shooter?

https://nbarankings.theringer.com/
Gianmickeybros........we've dropped to number 3............

If the Lakers want to win, LeBron should be coming off bench. He's a terrible fit next to Luka and Reaves and he is awful on defence. But LeEgo could never stomach that. Luka won't be able to filly shine until he retires.

If the Lakers want to win, LeBron should be coming off the bench. He's just an empty stats guy at this point. Terrible defence and terrible advanced stats. He doesn't fit next to Luka and Austin. His ideal role is to play 20-ish minutes off the bench. Of course, LeEgo could never accept that, so it'll just be more prime Luka years wasted.

>>151390974
They can't win now anyway. LeBitch didn't take a paycut so they don't have any good role players, especially good defenders. So even if he agrees to come off the bench, that is still 50 million dollars wasted on a bench player

The only hope for them is that they agree to trade him and get something valuable in return. If they could get a couple of dawg wings that can shoot the 3 and defend then they have a chance but good luck getting that in return for trading LeOldfart

I just bought a bunch of gold and silver, ask me anything.

>>151390923
>Jokic #1
Accurate.

Aura status?

>>151390923
Luka has done more than giannis since 2021. When are we giving him the top 3 spot he deserves. Have people forgotten how good his 2023 2024 season was? This year couldve been even better if it wasnt for the sudden trade and total change of scenery

im afraid of what will happen to the Nba if SGA elevates his 3 pt shot

>>151391491
never existed

>>151391491
That's 2 FTs for SGA once the season actually begins

>Cooper Flagg
>Valdez Drexel Edgecombe Jr.
>Kon Knueppel
>Airious Bailey
Goofy ahh names

>>151390974
It's fucking hilarious how much of a dead weight he is on 3rd/4th quarters. Zero movement off ball and just a fucking turnstile on defense.
I guess Silver was right after all, it is a fucking highlight-only sport. If you watch any Lakers game (that matters), it's painfully obvious.

>>151391428
Such a Celtic looking big fella,

Soon to happen in 2027 Bawb >>151373181

do people really buy these cards

Andreeva is so hot...

>>151392608
Wrong thread, bucko.

Rewatching 1995 NBA finals

This was the coolest dagger 3s ever, I wonder if Houston can do it with KD again, I doubt it

https://youtu.be/gwRk-V91Kew?t=1109

why is he dressed like an 8 year old in 1997

>>151392712
Look at this dude

>>151392712
Has any adult managed to look good in overalls?

>>151391494
>top 3 player with no rings, no MVPs, and a losing playoff record

>>151391491
What happened to that epic spin move shiftiness that retarded "analysts" on "theringer" were dicksucking? Or does it only work against dogshit defenders who dont know how to guard foul baiters? This nigga is good, but not number 2 of the league good. Also Anthony Edwards and Wembanyamas ranking are waaaaay overshot too. Holy fuck, these retarded old fucks are so dumb.

>>151392925
I mean, I was at the gym earlier doing all kinds of spin moves and crossovers. It was pretty epic, except that I was by myself. You can do whatever you want when no one’s guarding you. Same for sga, he’s playing by himself because no one is allowed to guard him. And if someone tries he gets free throws. If someone like Steph had his whistle he’d score like 200 points.

>>151392911
>no rings, no MVPs
giannis hasn't had either in over 4 years and during that time he was a second round exit, first round exit, missed playoffs with injury, first round exit
in the east

Westbrook to Kings

>>151393020
WestGAWD finna light the beam

Kangz lmao

Good for Brodie but year 18 on a team that has 0 chance at a ring?

westKING gonna knock Lebust out of the playins

>>151393020
westGOD is so back

westCHARLAMAGNE will lead his kings to the finals

>>151393050
time to farm some heckin trippie dubbies

>>151393140
Does he even have any triple double left in him?

>>151393020
I have mixed opinions, on one hand we really needed someone like him with Fred out, but also I don’t know if he fits into an Ime coached team. On the other hand, I’m glad he’s on a team and not being ignored like an abandoned puppy.

>>151393152
You say that until Westbrook bricks a three or misses a wide open layup

>>151393043
what everyone predicted over a month ago would happen, happened.

>>151393043
so he's getting traded for kuminga now right?

Next.

>>151393181
I mean, not my problem now I guess. That door is closed.

>>151393152
I remember reading the news of westbrooks trade to houston. Infamous summer of 19. Shit was kino tho

>>151393043
perfect

name ONE (1) more kino starting lineup than lavine schroder derozan lavine sabonis

>>151393299
oh I forgot to type westbrook

>>151393299
The NBA should reimburse Kings fans for having to watch that shit

>>151393043
dont know why he didnt just stay in denver. its not like he was getting flamed by anyone

>>151393299
Why did it have to be this way...

>>151393299
AURA

>>151393299
grim

>>151393331
he got told he could get a bigger contract according to some player pods, but then the teams his agent heard from at first didn't call back

>>151393331
His role was going to be reduced

>>151393331
Malone got fired because he kept playing Westbrook over the young guys

https://youtu.be/DIYyZB1Yums
Dont mind me, just watching Currgoat be the best NCAA college player in his year. How tf did currgoat not get number 1 overall in this shitty 08 draft, how did Harfraud draft higher than him? Wtf were they smoking? Guess those couple turnovers looked THAT bad to scouts? But hes obviously also carrying an offensive load that no other equivalent aged player was in the draft.

>>151393450
You can't win shooting threes

>>151393450
he was too small to defend in that era of the nba and had glass ankles
it took a perfect situation of being surrounded by 4 plus defenders that could switch multiple positions and a miracle surgery finally working the 3rd time for his career to pan out

>>151393456
Isnt that what they said right before 2015 League MVP, and Finals MVP, Wardell Stephen Curry won the 2015 NBA championship against "da goat" Lebum James?

Westbrook should have accepted the reduced role at Nuggets since ring is the only thing left in his career. He was really washed in OKC series (at some point he had -20, -30 and -34 +/-) so no contending clubs wanted him.

The camera guys under the basket should get hazard pay

>>151393473
>it took a perfect situation of being surrounded by 4 plus defenders that could switch multiple positions and a miracle surgery finally working the 3rd time for his career to pan out
Kek wtf is this bullshit? And Blake Griffin didnt have the "perfect situation" being paired with fucking Chris Paul? Do some of you dumbfuck retards ever read the shit you type out? The warriors dynasty has become so infamous that were now saying shit like "Steph was so gawdlike and blessed and lucky, and totally carried by his team of......draymond...klay thompson...and...harrison barnes the known gawdtier switchable defender" when niggas like Blake Griffin and KD were being paired with fucking Westbrook, Harden, Chris Paul, JJ Redick, etc.

Lile holy fuck. Also only Draymond could really guard 1 through 5. The switchable defense required ALL participants to be smart defenders. It wouldnt work if Curry was a negative iq defender who couldnt read the floor. Every defender on that warriors team is overrated as fuck except for draymond and iggy. This team had near zero rim protection, and couldnt get rebounds. They were carried by the offensive god that was curry, and draymondos synergy with curry in the pick and roll, aswell as a switchable defense that was INVENTED (ok not really, but effectively) by Kerr, to compensate SPECIFICALLY for how small the team was. Without Curry being as small and cool as he is, they wouldnt have invented such GAWDLIKE defensive schemes. FACT.

Westbrook was more needed in Miami

when my nigga bol bol getting signed

when my nigga cody zeller getting signed

when my nigga JT Thor gettin signed

>>151382730
fuck no, this era was ass
this is how I know you fags aren't real fans either, because you'd remember that both kuz and lonzo making dumbass diss tracks about each other
I'd rather deal with primadonnas instead of immature idiots who can't even win any day of the week

Where will Mikey Williams go in the draft?

>>151393321
the NBA hasnt thrown a bone to kings fans since they vetoed the maloof relocation

>>151392925
Its preseason and he outplayed Giannis that same game

>>151393541
>>151393541
>totally carried by his team of......klay thompson
>Blake Griffin and KD were being paired with fucking JJ Redick

I'm ready to officially declare this guy is a bust.
Sorry but 10 PPG on 37% FG% ain't it.

>>151393778
eternal #2 which isn't a bad thing every team needs one to win he's just never gonna be THEY GUY

>>151393778
Anon....

He's 18, holy shit give him time

>>151393778
BAWBsisters… what do we do now?

>>151393768
Are you a retard that just cherrypicks what makes you sound or look good and ignore everything else that disproves your contention?

>>151393755
Like ive said. I've got to see him step up this season in a way that doesnt make it seem like hes carried. If he can average 30 with the amount of free throws Currgoat got in 2016 (5.1 average, this season is still insane to this day, maybe greatest offensive season ever, maybe the only top 10 player to ever average 30 on that insane 50/40/90 efficiency, while averaging...5 freethrows, just makes me realize further how exceptional a season it was) then I wont just respect him. I'll become a fan. Ill even give him some Leeway, if he can average 30 with less than 8 free throw average, ill only respect him, but wont be a fan. He has to average no more than 6.5 free throws minimum (Currys 2021 season free throw average 6.3) for me to be a fan.

>>151393826
Not even really a "give him time" situation because he played well, but just had one poor shooting night.

>>151393866
why act like jj redick was the shit and klay wasn't. you could've left him off your list

>>151393847
We're putting all our faith in Him.

>>151394003
I never acted like Reddick was the shit and Klay wasnt. My point was that other players had equal AND greater supporting casts. Id take Chris Paul over Klay any day. And if Reddick got the 2nd option status that Klay got, hed probably average the same and suddenly be called (One of da best shooters ever) Its not even close. That warriors team pre and post KD, is some of the most winningest bias judged teams ever. People work backwards from the fact that they won and had high performances.

Its the exact same reason why retards unironically think Kyrie Irving was ever better than Chris Paul. Clear and blatant winning bias.

>>151393909
He needs to develop a solid catch and release, seems like he doesn't like to be dared to shoot,

I think he's just too gunshy in certain parabolas like we forgot just how incredibly op Curry and Klay were, Curry was running, grabbed the ball and shot it, Shai needs to dribble to the key or near it and then shoot it, and that was a huge issue against Indy when they were down by 10 and they kept passing the ball to Dort, OKC 3pt shooting is just shit at times

Like if that was Boston they were facing in Game 4, OKC would've lost in 5 games, cause Boston is hitting wayy more 3s than that and has better defense in the playoffs

westGOD won

>>151393515
Who the fuck cares about a ring when you're a benchwarmer? The Denver front office is retarded. Enjoy Cam Johnson and Bruce Brown bricking everything.

>>151394200
>Like if that was Boston they were facing in Game 4, OKC would've lost in 5 games, cause Boston is hitting wayy more 3s than that and has better defense in the playoffs
A 68 and 15 team going to game 7 against A 50 win denver team and 40something win Pacers team is insane.

Look, heres the thing, even if you think both of those teams were fucked by injuries and their record doesnt reflect their strength, not onlt is Denver a shit overrated team with a shit overrated Jokic that absolutely shit the bed the entire playoffs, but that Denver team is NEVER winning even close to 68 games even if they tried their hardest, nor is that Pacers team. I dont even think either could reach 60 wins. Not only that, but that same Denver team went to 7 games against the Clippers, at the very least if Denver were a secretly dominant team not reflected in their record, they should have gone to game 6 at MOST with the Clippers. And then if we go and shift to "But the clippers record doesnt reflect their strength" we enter an endless rabit hole where suddenly records dont actually mean anything (despite how rare and exceptional 67+ records are no matter what) and the Thunder arent as strong or good as they were hyped to be. Just above average.

>>151393909
>SGA should try to go to the line less so a curcuck while respect him
He's not a one-trick pony memerchucker like you're boy, sorry. Also, lmao about being carried by the guy who's only ever won on superteams with a DPOY and fucking Kevin Durant GTFOOH

>>151393515
>at some point he had -20, -30 and -34 +/-
Doesn't really mean much when Jokic himself had -23 and -36 for games

I think I speak for all of /nba/ when I say the Kings are now contenders and are possibly guaranteed a spot in the NBA finals now that westARCEUS is their leader.

>>151394372
So shooting 3s is "one dimensional" but foul baiting is not?
So being a primarily on ball player is not one dimensional, but being able to play on ball and off ball is...oh wait, i forgot narrow minded retards arbitrarily divide dimensions of play between offense and defense when it suits them

I'm so tired of LeHenny and his trash nepo baby, bros...

>>151394299
>Thunder arent as strong or good as they were hyped to be. Just above average.

Thats really what the case is 2015 Hawks 3.0, they were 3-1 to the Mavs in reg season without fat Luka and 3-1 to the warriors

I don't understand how they got to 68 wins, and its funny to think had they won one more against Warriors and Mavs they would've gotten 70 wins,

but 68 wins is insane, the craziest thing is, people always claim Pacers are using satanism or some shit, you realize in game 1, thunder make ZERO 3 pointers in the 4th quarter, and then Caruso bulldozed like a dumbass and fouled Nembhard and then SGA when for a contested jumpshot he could've passed out...

Personally I think some aspects is coaching as in Daigneault coaching style, when Shai was cold, everyone was cold, the Denver series is so confusing to me cause they got a million FTs and Joker had a flagrant foul handed out to him, and then they just choked it, and Denver had just went 7 games with Clippers meanwhile OKC had more rest and went 4 with Play-In Memphis,

The thing with Boston is: Its hardcore to think they won 60+ games when everyone was injured and hurt, Brown tore his meniscus at the start of the season and missed games and JT had leg injuries as well, Holiday Mallet Finger and Hammy, Horford was old, Pritchard was too short, and White was bald and Boston still slid right into a solid conference spot with only 21 losses, the same amount as a Lebron and Shaq back in 09-10

I think if OKC loses in playoffs Daigneaults job is at risk, cause the FO and owners will ask questions like "hey everyone is healthy and noone is injured so why are you struggling in these playoffs against a weaker/similar squad that never cracked 60 wins"

>>151394459
Being only able to shoot 3s, while being surrounded by a top 5 3 and D player of all time and a DPOY that will abuse illegal screens for you is indeed one dimensional. It's why curcuck disappears from the floor whenever his shot isn't falling, he provides nothing else, outside of imaginary "gravity" that every single other top player in the league also fucking has.

>>151394513
>a top 5 3 and D player of all time
??????????????????????? who the fuck are you talking about? you have to be fucking joking.

also this argument is fucking retarded, a DPOY doesnt carry an entire defense, there have been entire teams better defensively than a team with one DPOY on the team. And there have been dozens of players to lose with a DPOY on their team. Draymond also only won DPOY once, but who cares, Draymond on literally ANY OTHER TEAM would be useless. Actually useless. He'd be talked about the way Rudy Golbert was, when he was on the Jazz, and fuck, even now.

>>151394492
>The thing with Boston is: Its hardcore to think they won 60+ games when everyone was injured and hurt
They frauded like hell against the knicks though. I dont think Injuries are valid excuses there, as Knicks were up 3-1 even before Tatum went down

>>151394541
>??????????????????????? who the fuck are you talking about? you have to be fucking joking.
Name 5 better 3 and D players than Klay. You can't.
> a DPOY doesnt carry an entire defense
It does when they're a generational defender like Draymond. Don't forget he had the highest =/- in the league in 2016, even above your precious curcuck. GSW's small ball lineup only ever worked because of Draymond.

Gah dam fall really is here ,all these leafs up in hiya

>>151394053
>people say nato and the communists were so unfairly matched up but nato had america, the uk, and the east had fuckin russia, china, albania
I just wanna know why albania's in there. would albania have been one of da best militaries if they got the right alliances

>>151394597
>Name 5 better 3 and D players than Klay. You can't.
wtf, youre actually fucking stupid. No im not naming "3 and D" players because they dont exist. Name me 5 better Stretch Bigs than Horford? Oh wait. Theyre all within 2020 to 2025? I guess Horford is a Top 5 player ever in some arbitrary meaningless fucking made up category. Kys retard. Klay is an overrated defender and youre a bum ass retard, anybody can be top 5 in something with no competition or standard.

>>151394597
>GSW's small ball lineup only ever worked because of Draymond.
Warriors didn't invent small ball retard. Draymond isnt the generational talent your deceiving as pretends he is.

>>151394705
>>151394715
Cope. Your fraud owes his career to Draymond. He'd be Dell Curry without him.

>>151394567
>Frauded like hell,
Even then, the loss isnt as bad as people think of it, I rewatched that game, and heres my takeaway https://youtu.be/O4pJqQV_KSI?si=Ph3nc3u-uIGowbL5

The rims were a bit Carnival -ish and some went in and rattled out

Tatum Achilles was beginning to rip off, Brown wasn't a strong or quit footed as a his meniscus was falling apart and he needed surgery asap, Holiday had a mallet finger and hammy injury

they missed 45 3s, if they hit 2 more of those they would've won,

Look at the stats here, they made 15 3s and Knicks made 17, but most of the newer 3s were in 4th quarter

but.... Kristaps played for 10 mins and then left the floor due to aids and Hauser had an awful shooting night, and Brown hit only one 3 pointer,

>Knicks were up 3-1 even before Tatum went down in game 4

Celtics were up by a few points in the 3rd quarter it was pretty close and Celtics blew them out in game 3, game 4 was when JT got hurt,

Just saying if the Celtics players were healthy and the oldest players were in their prime they would've repeated

>Lebum fans pushing draybum carrying curry narratives because draymond is now best friends with klutch media and lebum
kek baka

>>151394787
Yeah, not like Curry choked a 3 - 1 lead after Draymond got suspended

>>151394759
>Brown wasn't a strong or quit footed as a his meniscus was falling apart and he needed surgery asap
Brown was still injured by the playoffs? i thought his injury was early season

>>151394839
We deliberately going to ignore Curry getting injured twice in the playoffs, one requiring an emergency surgery?

>>151394879
He's been injury prone his entire career so that's irrelevant. He was on the floor and still played like ass.

Pistol Pete save us from those damn leafs

>>151394953
>He was on the floor and still played like ass.
While thats true, he didnt even play THAT ass. Dont get me wrong, he didnt play to the standard he should have. A unanimous MVP still needs to somehow carry the Majority load on his 73 and 9 team or else they lose the finals. Because Klay was 35% from 3 as a primary shooter. I shouldnt even have to explain Harrison Barnes, and everybody else (except for Draymond lmao) was ass. And YET, they still only really lost by 4 points. Nobody is excusing curry. But lebum had more turnovers actually than Curry. Lebum and Kyrie need to average more points than the warriors top 2 do, because that Cavs team is all offense, no defense, but the warriors cant be all defense, because their offense isnt spread out enough, its centralized on their only shot creator: Currdawg

They lost that finals because everybody played like ass (Probably because Curry played like ass, so they lost their spacing and we learned what they really were like without gawdlike spacing, and we also learned why Defense does not infact win championships)

It's up

How do I watch the full 2016 finals game 5

>>151394855
He injured his meniscus at the very start of the season, but didn't have surgery on it otherwise he wouldn't he be able to play all season,

That's why he missed some games to load manage and rest a bit, but when playoff came around it got worse, thats why he fouled out early on purpose in game 6 so he didn't tear his ACL like Rose did, this June he had surgery on it, (photo here)

Im just saying im not a boston fan at all but they were fucking injured and still went 6 games against a tough healthy makeshift Knicks superteam

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>>151395344

Time to hedge your bet, WestAcolytes.