Thread 151395640

8 fucking MILLION viewers for just the semifinal series. Highest rating in MLB HISTORY.

Why is /sp/ always wrong? Soccer is still not growing in the states, basketballs ratings are in the toilet, and baseball just outdid every football game this week.
And its not even the World Series.

>>151395640 (OP)
baseball is unironically the fastest growing sport in the world. soccer peaked about 2 decades ago during some of the most KINO world cup series ever, but now thats all gone.

>>151395640 (OP)
hot take
Manfred is actually competent
so is Roger Goodell
Adam Silver and Gary Bettman are retards

>>151395719
manfreds changes saved the sport.
hell i took a buddy of mine to a marlins game, he hates baseball and said it was too boring and slow. the pitch clock changed his experience fully and now hes begging to go back next season

>>151395640 (OP)
>>151395662
>>151395745
what part of mexico is your family from

>>151395662
>Baseball is the fastest growing sport in the world

Where is it growing ?

>>151395794
watch the WBC this next year, chud. all those countries go feral for some hot baseball action

151395756
Mexico rules, loser

>>151395662
sad but true

if the semi final is getting 8 milly, any chance the World Series cracks 15 mil? id say so. maybe even 20.

>>151395815
The WBC has terrible ratings though. The final got 3 million viewers in the USA. It's only popular in Latin Carribean, japan and Korea where baseball is already the biggest sport

>>151395816
lol

>>151395837
nah, it's pure Kino

baseball chicanos have a massive inferiority complex to the NFL, please understand

>>151395837
its pure kino though. this year’s script has USA getting its big comeback victory over mexico in the final.
trump even makes an appearance at the end

baseball chicanos have a massive inferiority complex to the NFL, please understand

>>151395837
the last one got more attention than before and judge, raleigh, and skenes will play in the next wbc. the ratings gonna be doubled easily.

i remember when NFL games would be interrupted to update the LCS games and the NFL pre game shows would be a third previewing the baseball games during October. Popping a dead cat bounce rating doesn't change anything the thought of NFL being interrupted for MLB updates is insane now

>>151395640 (OP)
>Dodgers are RUINING the sport
>highest viewership numbers in a decade and a half

>>151395640 (OP)
Good for you, nice. I'm not a baseball guy, I don't really get the sport and it seems very long to me. But I kind of appreciate the autism behind it. There needs to be a good bat-and-ball game, and I'll take baseball over cricket any day
But wasn't baseball struggling (relatively speaking) recently? Did it get turned around? How come?
Also, from my personal experience, soccer does seem to grow in the US, just not enough to eclipse the other sports anytime soon

>>151395640 (OP)
In Germany 20 million people watch every game of our national team

>>151396061
20 million masochists or blind people, damn

>>151395975
baseball is up because basketball is down

>>151395640 (OP)
APOLOGIZE

>>151395640 (OP)
Do Americans tend to watch multiple sports equally? I am under the impression that the average football fan here is relatively clearly separated from the average handball, ice hockey, or basketball fan. It feels like most people have one main sport and don't really care about the rest, but I can't really back this up with any surveys
Since our clubs can span multiple sports (like Bayern also having one of our best basketball teams, or the former Hamburg handball team), some people may support their club in multiple sports, but the base for that tends to be football

>>151396159
If there's one thing americans are best at it is consuming media. Yes americans follow all their sports teams in their city.

>>151396159
It's hard to generalize such a big population, but based on my experience yes, it's more split between non sports guys, and sports guys who generally watch a few different sports here. The seasons for each sport are generally spread out over the year and the teams are all at a high enough level that I think people get entertainment out of all of them. The addition of sports betting has increased cross sport watchers as well I'm sure. But personally I'm just a baseball guy

>>151395640 (OP)
>15 years
lmao. the games are available to 10x more people today than they were back then. its over

>>151396222
trvke

>>151396194
>yes americans follow all their sports teams in their city.
lmao no we do not

>>151396159
for many years I watched baseball and football but this year Im kind of checked out on football.

when baseball ends I might start watching more hockey desu

>>151396159
most of the sports are kinda spread out. most people i know watch 2 or 3 of the big 4, or they watch all 4 but obviously prefer 1 or 2 (usually NFL and MLB among my friends at least)
summer you got baseball, and then as the season winds down NFL starts, baseball playoffs start and in the middle of that NHL and NBA starts
baseball ends and then it's full NFL autism mode if you already weren't into full NFL autism mode while NHL and NBA keep going, then you got the super bowl, nfl is over. NHL and NBA seasons get towards the end and baseball is already starting up again then you have NBA and NHL playoffs
basically there's a sport on year round. add in watching soccer or whatever and you will always have something to CONSOOM

>>151396263
>but this year Im kind of checked out on football.
same, it feels fake and rigged

>>151395640 (OP)
>8 million viewers
that's how many watch the romanian 4th division football league on a slow monday, embarrasing

Based! I hope baseball surpasses the nba

>>151396194
>>151396203
>>151396263
>>151396304
I see. Thank you

>>151395794
It’s certainly having a renaissance in Korea and Taiwan with both smashing attendance records this year but they were already baseball places so I'm not sure how much that really counts

>>151396329
what part of mexico is your family from

>>151396263
>>151396305
senooooooooor

>>151396329
So now the NBA is struggling? What did they do wrong?
I kind of feel like next-gen American basketball will kind of suck in terms of the individual star power, which seems to be a major factor for the sport's self-image and prestige. LeBron, Curry, KD, Harden and some other big guys are on their last legs, and the upcoming guys are mostly yuropeons ... and Cooper Flagg, I guess? It seems weird, since I am 100% sure Americans still care way more about basketball than most Europeans. Is your youth development fucked up somehow? But that's just my perspective as a clueless outsider, and even if I am right with this, it doesn't have to be related to an NBA crisis

>>151396354
Jews from Bavaria

>>151396343
I always feel like Korea is some weird special case. All Koreans I know (internet and personally) are football guys who are very nationalistic about their Korean football stars. They all watch the Premier League and the Champions League. But then I heard - and it's not too hard to believe - that no one in Korea gives a shit about their domestic football league and that they all watch their national baseball league
Korea doesn't even seem to be that good at baseball considering it's the less global and competitive sport. Taiwan on the other hand seems to be very bad at football, I can picture them as a nation dominated by baseball right away
>>151396382
Bavaria-Bavaria or Franconia? Or Bavarian Swabia? Or the part that kind of is Franconia but culturally belongs to Hesse?
Asking out of genuine curiosity. Kemma hoam, Bruader

>>151396404
Franconia according to my family. My uncle once visited where our ancestors lived

>>151395640 (OP)
It doesn't mater because the lockout next year will take away any viewership progress it may have had.

>>151396423
Ah, I figured. Fürth? They kind of had many Jews there since Nürnberg tended to kick them out

>>151396497
We left before the holocaust but sounds about right

>>151396363
There is nothing wrong with new players. There were always ups and downs regarding talent. Some draft years are packed, some are just full of nobodies. There's a lot of money, little chance of serious injury, and a relatively sure way to stardom, if a player is talented. Amongst athletes, basketball will always be number one choice.

The problem is just the state of nba at this time. Silver is braindead idiot. Teams are chugging 3's, they play no D, and everyone is constantly injured, because of all the physicality that's allowed by the refs, and because of stupid owners that overload their stars with minutes played. And Silver is doing nothing at all. NBA was constantly changing under Stern. He adapted Shaq rules to help build up his career. He introduced paint circle. He banned zone defence to help facilitate more aggressive play. Silver has everything in his hands, and he's doing nothing. He can't even fix intentional fouling of bad free throw players. Something that's fixed in Europe by refs calling techs.

>>151395815
Yeah but other than the Czech Republic those countries have already been playing baseball for like decades.

>>151396404
it's basically just that korea tends to be opportunist

>>151396045
A pitch clock was added recently that made it much easier to watch. Now games are two and a half hours instead of three

Baseball is the only American sport worth watching, as it is the only good American sport. I have been enjoying it for a couple months now.

>>151396516
Nürnberg kicked out Jews like 5000 times in the Middle Ages, the traditional Jewish strongholds were Mainz, Worms, and Speyer. Of course, they were everywhere overall. Some major cities like Aachen apparently never gave a fuck about them one way or the other

>>151395640 (OP)
It's not dying, it's dead. Whatever they play now literally doesn't even match rule 1.01 of the baseball rulebook

>>151395719

Adam Silver is so fucking bad, he's ruined the NBA

golf is fastest growing sport in terms of participation

>>151396363
It's this:
>>151396517
NBA is glorified pick up basketball... but also the NBA is a much different league than the other sports in the US (especially baseball). In baseball a lot of fans don't really give a shit about the overall league except for right before the playoffs and the playoffs, they only care about their team and their division. The NBA is full of fans that just don't care about a lot of teams (even a local team) and only care about bandwagoning the best teams and players nationally. So the NBA fanbase is kind of shallow and easy to lose if things aren't going right.

>>151395719
>so is Roger Goodell

>>151395756
kek. owned that fraud
>>151396263
>>151396305
go back
>>151396516
>we

>>151395975
Dynasties are good for viewership. They create storylines, underdogs, villains, etc.

>>151396153
I kneel.

>>151395756
>>151395933
>>151396354
What's up with this MF seething about Latinxs in every thread

>>151395640 (OP)
soccer is pricing itself out of hte market with retarded streaming packages

>>151401279
he's just trying to see who's retarded enough to answer his baits

Baseball always does well in the playoffs
Its the 2,430 other games during the season no one cares about

>>151396404
baseball is taiwan's national sport
unironically brought to them by the japs who got it from the yanks
it was a taiwanese CEO that bought ohtani's 50-50 homerun ball
>>151396540
in korea's case it's because new ownership has focused on getting a young adult audience into it, old enough to pay for tickets but young enough to make going to the ballpark fashionable again. not unlike what banana ball did.

>>151401324
this

>>151401324
the viewership of both regular season games and playoffs are increasing. you can argue that it doesn't mean much since it's been so low, though.

>>151401555
I sincerely hope all sports succeed (except divegrass)
But I ask this honestly, what would be the downsides of cutting the amount of MLB regular season games in half?

>>151401630
I would have less baseball to watch

>>151401630
because then the season would be like 4 months long

>>151396222
not necessarily
network tv was way more powerful 15 years ago than it is today where it has to compete with the internet in everyone's literal hands via smartphones
now people pirate/watch restreams because households have been cutting their tv channels but you ironically need a cable subscription to pay for mlbtv

>>151401630
well, many of baseball fans are stat autists and it would be harder to compare players' stats and numbers with the stats in the past if they cut the amount of games in half. that's a big deal.
also, ticket revenue would go down a lot.

>>151401630
you would kill the sport
a city's ballpark is an attraction and a regular season ticket is available to the everyman. even a whole family outing is not terribly expensive. so if you want to enjoy even just one of the 162 games in person, you can. the accessibility is part of the appeal.
baseball season is also in between all the other major sports besides the summer olympics so it just gives any enthusiast something to follow for half the year.
speaking competitively, for a sport where hitting the ball 30% of the time is pretty fucking good, you need the historically 154+ games to account for variance, so the teams that make it to the pennant races really are the most deserving.

>more people than ever watching baseball and it's growing
>meanwhile I'm a white sox fan and are basically just completely left out of anything remotely fun
I've never hated Jerry as much as I do now. He's causing the market here to shrink as others grow. How ass backwards is that?

>>151396159
As an American with all 4 even 5 teams in my city I watch and follow all of them basically year round
If only any of them could be even remotely good
Though I guess the Fire did make the playoffs and ended that drought finally so I guess I'll take that 1/6

>>151401896
give the cubbybears a chance

>>151401985
I was going to this postseason but as it drew near I saw all those posts from Cubs fans practically everywhere constantly going off about how they're going to the playoffs and we're in dead last place and even worse attendance shaming us (even though it's all Jerry's fault) while they pack their park. I gave up any hope for peace there and was happy that it was the Brewers who shut them the fuck up. Then they turn tail and say how could we be monsters and root against the Chicago team for Wisconsinites. Well maybe look in the goddamn mirror huh cubs fans?
Truly though the thing that pisses me off the most is always the attendance shaming. It's like they don't even know who the fuck Jerry Reinsdorf is. I'm sick of the victimblaiming.

>>151401630
The responses to this are always 'waaah I like games every day waaaah'

>>151402304
what's wrong with that though?

>>151395640 (OP)
Does this mean that the Yankees aren't a big draw anymore?

>>151401630
(((they))) tried that in 2020, it stunk.

Fastest growing in the US:
1) baseball
2) golf
3) pickle balls

fastest dying:
1) basketball (struggling to remain on tv)
2) e sports
3) lacrosse

>>151404821
Nobody thinks lacrosse will ever be a popular sport. The best it has is ncaa

>>151404821
>basketball (struggling to remain on tv)
it just got a multi billion dollar deal to move from cable to broadcast television

>>151404061
What's wrong with it is that 1/162 is a drop in the bucket. Every game feels kind of like a meaningless exhibition unless it's against a division rival or you're close to the end of the season. It's also just too much for most people to keep up with, so most just end up watching highlights.

>>151405099
Maybe I don’t look for extrinsic meaning in a baseball game

>>151395745
the ghost runner is the worst rule in the history of baseball

>>151404821
>3) pickle balls
goddamn boomers ruining every tennis court with this shit

>>151404821
>baseball
Based, I guess. Bit strange for outsiders, but based
>golf
Meh. Rich boomers wasting space. But I see some legitimacy
>picke ball
Now this is where the real cringe starts, fuck off with this shit, boomers

>basketball
Surely it can't be struggling THIS hard ... NBA kinda sucks despite it having the most individual quality by far, but the sport itself is fine
>e-""""""sports""""""
Rest in Piss. At least don't call it sport
>lacrosse
Strange as well, but not terribly bad as far as I can judge. Why is it struggling?

>>151395640 (OP)
>lost to the fucking WNBA even with the most OP ratings world series possible (two biggest market teams)
LMAO
sit down kiddo you're at best the biggest fish in a very small pond

college football is eating your lunch paco

>>151404821
>2) e sports
Meanwhile in Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qvNIxwSw8A
It'll also be interesting to see what happens to LoL in Korea once Faker retires. My prediction is viewership will likely cut in half. He's the Jordan holding it together. He can even threepeat this year.
I also think CS and Dota will continue to outlive most everything else.

>>151406246
lol is already dying. Faker retiring would hurt the scene a ton

baseball is doing well
pitch clock was a great change

>>151395640 (OP)
>He doesn't know
The new wave of migrants (Venezuelans and central murciana) like baseball

>>151396588
This

>>151395640 (OP)
Can't think of a more boring team sport, why would anyone want to watch that shit?

>>151405873
>>151406106
Fuck you! Pickleball is incredibly fun

>>151407521
Don't forget your Metamucil, George

>>151401907
what's USA M?

>>151404821
lacrosse bros….why cant we ever win?

we just LAXXIN too, and everyone hates us.

>>151395640 (OP)
Get back to me when viewership reaches pre-1994 strike levels.

>>151395640 (OP)
>baseball
>semifinal
Lmao

>>151406106
>golf
>Meh. Rich boomers wasting space.
80% of people i see on courses these days are under the age of 35

pretty sure the ALCS and NLCS games today got fucking slaughtered by TNF

>>151417289
how high was it then?

>>151395640 (OP)
>in its history
Good job lil bro. Some day a person in Timbuktu might what's a baseball too.

>>151405809
regular season games are watered down shite
it was a long overdue adjustment

>>151417392
>pretentious yuppies looking for cultural capital

>>151396263
same but instead of baseball its basketball, im so checked out on it and started following baseball. Apparently lots of people are feeling the same about basketball, its interesting cus i dont think its a coordinated thing, i legitimately think people are just losing interest in basketball. I cant even pinpoint why idk just basketball just kinda sucks in plenty of aspects now

>>151418191
NBA sold out 40 years ago for a star-driven league
>Bird, Magic, Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, Lebron, Curry
they had a 40-year run of generational talents that came from the trenches, that eventually outgrew their hubris to play teamball
now its a bunch of selfish rich kids on peds grinding for playtime since AAU, who have to be taught basic fundamentals from much euroballers

this thread made me look this up out of curiosity and I'm surprised by the order

>>151401875
Doesn't it say something if stadiums are only half full in regular season?

>>151418234
yeah thats kinda part of it, among plenty of other shit that made me lose interest, the players are just so...idk man like its hard to root for them, i feel out of all the american sports theyre the most diva and detached from reality. Its why i have a new appreciation for nfl players desu... yeah you get your fair share of divas but when people talk to them they still sound like normal human beings, while nba players just sound and act like as you described

>>151404821
Sports on TV outside of playoffs and finals are going away eventually for all sports. People under 40 don't have cable TV

>>151395975
it might happen, same shit happened to basketball, superteam culture became a thing, sold out to promote lebron and whatever team he jumped to and i think its one of the many reasons as to why the sport is where it is now. It may not show its effects now but maybe 5-10 years down the line like the nba. You can see many parallels with how they handled lebron and his teams with how ohtani and the dodgers are being handled and promote by the league and how the media handles it as well

I for one actually wish that baseball actually outgrows basketball but hopefully they dont make the same mistakes

>>151395640 (OP)
good. baseball was always the white mans sport

It will be OUR time soon enough, pickleball bros. First we surpass tennis. Then next it's the NBA!

>>151418430
It's been a Latino sport for the last 15 years and now the Japanese are invading.

The problem is your product is just worse right now. You had two post season games and they draw something like 5-6M Americans, football had one game on Amazon prime and it draws 12-17.7M and it was far better in terms of quality than both games today (which had maybe two moments where the game scored actually changed, otherwise it was just a boring Slurper).

You need more parity. Right now your sport looks like it can be bought. Like the hooker of American sports.

>>151395640 (OP)
its the gambling

are americans receptive to the thought of europeans potentially dominating their sport in the coming few decades?

i like baseball its a good sport

but the biggest american sport is wrestling

the biggest hollywood actors are wrestlers

>>151418258
makes me wonder how big soccer would be if they didn’t have hundreds of leagues all in the same area.

its true. my wife has been begging me to let her son join a little league team. thought he’d want to play basketball but he has no interest. he even told me “when lebron retire aint nobody gon care”

you think thats true? i mean looking at how dire basketballs ratings have been…maybe it is.

They're fighting for third place against basketball and hockey, NFL and College Football own #1 and #2.

>>151395662
this. it's over.

>>151395815
what do you expect from brown mongrels

>>151395719
>Gary Bettman
>retarded
This is known.

>>151395794
All my coworkers started talking about it over the last few years, as well as getting their kids involved. I don't even live in an area with an MLB team.

>>151418374
Okay, but Ohtani is genuinely a once-in-a-lifetime player.

And having the highest payroll doesn't always equal success.

>>151396045
Pitch clock made games end in a reasonable timeframe. Banning shifts also increased offense.

>>151407408
It has a nice rhythm to it, and the games are the only ones that are affordable to see. The ballpark experience is also a lot of fun.

>>151418191
The three point slop and technicals for looking at another player wrong get really tedious.

>>151428066
Also the number of fouls and stoppages

>>151428441
i cant watch ape hoop
there are so many stoppages in the last few minutes every time that prolong everything

>>151396045
The greatest player to ever play the sport in human history happens to be playing now, on the best team.

>>151437095
Babe Ruth is back on the Yankees? What does President Coolidge have to say about this?

>>151395640 (OP)
Regular season NFL games get >3 times that number

>>151437222
Babe Ruth didn’t even have to play against black people, let alone Dominicans and Japanese

>>151395719
The NFL prints money out the ass so easily anyone could do that retard's job.

of course a sport with a fanbase of browns would have an inferiority complex to football kek

>>151396305
Because it is.

>>151437222
Imagine if Babe Ruth was also an elite pitcher. That's Ohtani.

>>151437095
I don't see why I should care he's not on my team

>>151443872
The problem isn’t that he’s not on my team, but that there was never a snowball’s chance in hell he could have ever been on my team

>>151443734
nice b8 m8

>>151395640 (OP)
You do realize we are little more than North Mexico now, right? The latinckses love baseball more than they do divegrass.

its growing in popularity because white people are dominating football and basketball right now.

hell the entire meta of basketball is having a fat giant white guy crash the net and draw fouls.

baseball is the only sport where every race does equally well. even indians