Thread 151430882

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Take a shot every time leaf jeet mentions Jokic or Curry

i need bam's bbc in my pussy

>>151430882 (OP)
andrew bynum

another nuggcuck total buckbreaking
this is the nba I've missed

Take a shot everytime the lolcow Ausie acks out about jeets

no matter what i still find OKCs main team losing to denvers bench in the first 3 embarassing

>>151430909
aja can you sign some shoes for me to resell on ebay

OKC stays winning
Nugtrash stays losing
It just be like that

>>151430976
>ducks out after being embarassed and has to rely on the bench to win
pathetic.

>>151430935
You're the primary lolcow now after Inceltic vs Miami died down lol

>>151430935
you could btfo him very easily, just write that post number on a piece of paper and take a picture with your hand in frame

>>151431000
kys. /pol/tards should unironically be banned.

Gabe vincent

>>151431000
>>151431014

Cam johnson is fucking DOGSHIT
MPJ SAVE ME AHHHH

>>151430994
>no u
Says the guy who only comes here to glaze his white savior and rage about indians. You're a subhuman.

my wizard :)

clips finna got kobe and jordan on the same team

>>151431014
what? I'm telling you that you can stop him from ever calling you a jeet again, just pure basketball discussion, no more coping and distraction
write the post number on a piece of paper, crumple it up a little bit, and take a picture with your hand in frame. would take you a minute tops

>>151431045
Why are you so mad jeet? Your starters just beat the Nuggets bench by one possession

>>151430669 #
Why are you lying? His rim protection is still wet ass >>151430809 #. Jokic might be active in passing lanes, but Jesus Christ if that’s the extent of his defensive impact, it pales to what is usually asked of a modern NBA starting Center. Also, how can you not see that he does that lazy thing where he just gives up baskets at the rim to save his energy for running back in offense. Just lazy stuff at times I don’t like watching. Really lets your teammates down when your the last man of defense in any sport.

And you're missing some of the point in regards to pace & tempo. Jokic has a great K-Love outlet pass ability, but when you get caught in a fight with a team that is pushing pace, you’d like to adapt. It becomes a battle of tempo. Why do you think they brought in Westbrook? They needed a playmaker who can push tempo with the young guys because the front office knew it was an issue.

>>151431014
like I said in the last thread: the only reason racism exists is because of insecurities. This leaf is 110% insecure with himself, which explains his ignorance and racial "BAWB" talk
LOL
LMAO even

>>151431107
I'm not. I'm laughing at you. Keep coping and roping for another failed season, that's all your bum ass can do.

>>151431139
everyone point and laugh at the leaf's insecurities

>>151431126
It's just banter lil bro. Insecurity is more like bringing up indians, in a league that has no indian players, every 5 seconds because you're a low value yt reject that lives off of Alt right narratives.

Why is he so mad when his team just won?

>>151431014
Oh no no no no....

>>151431185
>a league that has no indian players
yeah that must suck. never got why you guys were so into it, don't you have cricket or some shit like that

>>151431185
I never brought up race, there, little insecure one. (You) did though, just now :) Is there something bothering (You) there, my insecure friend?

>>151430809
“Second worst rim protector” is such a fake stat take. You’re just parroting surface numbers with zero context. Jokić isn’t supposed to be a highlight-block guy Denver literally funnels everything to him because he’s smart enough to angle bodies and end possessions with boards. That’s called defense that wins games, not YouTube blocks. and he's doesn't have profound help when his side pieces are getting hurt or streaky on some days like Murray and MPJ in the OKC series

He’s guarding elite guards and bigs in drop every night with no real rim protector next to him, and somehow Denver’s defense AND offense still holds up when he’s on the floor. You think that’s luck? Every impact metric has him positive defensively, year after year.

People call him slow because they can’t process that he defends with positioning, not hops. Dude reads actions two steps ahead. If he’s “second worst,” why did Denver clamp everyone in the playoffs with him anchoring the paint?

You can’t be a defensive liability if teams keep fail to truly shut you down without fouling excessively, and he's the one who gentleman swept the LA Losers and brought a ring to Denver for the first time in 40+ years, meanwhile Melo, AI, Iggy etc couldn't do that shit and never even came close during their runs

>>151431185
Have you figured out you're our lolcow yet?

>>151431234
>brings up racism and cries about being called a BAWB
>"I never brought up race"
You get dropped on the head or something? Or is it the Fentanyl?

I’m just gonna say it. The jeet is right. As you can see by the bawby bawbs getting butthurt that their BAWB God is overrated

He called in the BAWBcord for backup LOL this is hilarious

>Spurs absolutely dominating in Pre-Season,

if they make the playoffs then thats huge, especially after years and years of losing

>>151431314
>'cord member accusing others of being 'cord affiliated

https://x.com/brooklynnets/status/1979367106711032231
HOLY GOAT

>>151431314
projection, you're just mad annoying

>>151431314
You're getting cooked jeet

>>151431376
oh now I see how it happened lmfao

Maybe all these BAWBs need to take a long soak with each other and cry the pain away. Y'all are just carrying so much anger, and we really don't need more school shooters in our society.

I don't know whats worse, a weird collection of obsessive retards thinking every canadian is the same. Or those same mentally ill retards being allowed to blatantly /pol/ brigade and derail actual basketball talk.

Garbage general.

>>151431334
>implying Wembloodclot will make it through the All-Star break

Yeah, I’m taking the under

Who is that trash white dude on the nuggets who comes out in garbage time or the 4th sometimes. Ive never seen him make a play he needs to be executed

bradley beal has awakened now that he has escaped that hell hole phoenix

LuBLOCK

>>151431445
>Maybe all these BAWBs need to take a long soak with each other and cry the pain away. Y'all are just carrying so much anger, and we really don't need more school shooters in our society.

>>151431447
>blatantly /pol/ brigade
where
>>151431462
hunter tyson

>>151431509
She longs to join the beautiful yt "culture"

>the insecure leaf is having a meltdown
I hope he doesn't disappear like Bulgaria. His insecure meltdowns are hilarious

>Jeet is so mind broken he's posting porn
Bruh lmfao

>>151431517
>where
Are you retarded? Only /pol/ obsessives over race and indians this much. You see it on /vpol/ too. Entire retarded site cant help but talk about anything but the actual board subject.

Heatsistas it's just preseason, right?

Zach Lavine must have the most empty stats in the league. He ends up with like 20 and you can't remember a single shot

>>151431564
>jeet calling others trannies
25 jeet trannies attempted mass suicide this week because of the rape they get from jeet men LOL

>>151431564
those look fake, but if real, pretty decent for a transbitch

Since when is being a tranny a bad thing?

>>151431584
Nothing says insecurity like calling someone else insecure 3 times in a post lil xis. Stay down bitch.

>>151431619
What are they drinking?

>>151431671
Drain cleaner

>>151431651
then everyone clapped XDDDD
please... continue fren

>>151431619
Being a tranny is literally yt culture, and you exported it all around the world, just like ODing on drugs and fucking animals is.

>>151431651
kekkerz. You’re killing him, jeetbro. I’m here if you need me. God, I think I love you. I wanna have your babies

>>151431619
/nba/ jeets when Jokic wins another chippy

>>151431684
Why would they do that?

>>151431695
>Hijras have a long history, with evidence of their existence dating back to ancient India. Their history is supported by mentions in epics like the Ramayana, mythological figures such as the goddess Bahuchara Mata, and 14th-century texts.
KEKKKKKK

>>151431601
I think I'm one of the people you called a brigader, I know for a fact I didn't come from anywhere else, and all I said was the dude could cut it off forever and make the other guy look stupid in less than 60 seconds, just show he's not actually indian. wouldn't dox him, no risk, would just put the focus squarely on basketball. why not do it?
and I know you're not gonna pretend this is some new startling thing, go look up "bawb|babb" in the archive and tell me how many pages of results there are

>>151431728
https://x.com/nabilajamal_/status/1979164159481909302

>>151431728
Same reason they're posting tranny porn rn

>>151431449
Fair, but lets say things work well for Wemby, I just think with Kornet and Wemby, thats gonna be huge, especially if they with full intensity every day,

My only frustration with Spurs is the retarded Foxx extension, cause if Kornet takes a massive leap like lets say Javale McGee on warriors with KD, then the rotations might change Wemby is put at PF and Kornet is officiated as a Wemby's taller Pippen,

>>151431651
Stop playing their game. "Insecurity" isnt an actual word that means anything here. Do you ever notice how classic bullies in tv and movies escaped the insecurity moniker constantly of bullying the nerd whos smarter than them and respected by adults? Because words arent objective, they carry almost inherent implicit value judgements, so the value of a word isnt "truth", but "appropriate use" as dictated by the social environment. We're not communicating, we're participating in a language game that is implicitly validated by the sheer fact that more people subscribe to that appropriate use than you do. So it doesn't matter whethet it's "objectively correct" or whether its contradictory to throw around Insecurity while expressing insecure qualities yourself.

The only way to counter a language game is to create a bigger one yourself, or ignore/invalidate their language game by not participating. Read Wittgenstein.

>>151431783
>So it doesn't matter whethet
SARRRRRR READ WITTGENSTEIN SARRRRRRR

>>151431752
Or you could just try posting about basketball instead of the other posters in the thread? You only come here to live vicariously through white players though so you won't do that.

Wtf is this shooting from the Kangs?

>>151431842
yes...my warriors suck...

Keeping Heyes was a good move DESU

i miss the serbian that screamed bible verses he was a respectable schizo now everyone just calls each other indians and yt

>>151431864
Why isnt the warriors GM fired yet?

Vando has been really fucking bad

>>151431812
I came here to see the form bruce brown is in lmfao, the only white person the nuggets played tonight was jonas valancunias
if they're shitflinging back and forth at each other (which they were, as soon as the thread started), don't you want it to end? let's see a hand, let's end the discourse forever. if it was me, I'd do it in a heartbeat
does the canadian (you or someone else?) want there to be more of this every thread?

>>151431870
Fr. I miss Leviticus.

>>151431866
Hayes is legit probably the worst player mechanically in the league. If he wasn't 7' tall hed be working at McDonald's

>>151431919
That's enough for a guy like Edey to start for a contending team kek

>>151431891
So much hype around his "improved shooting" over the summer. Only for him to come back an even bigger bum.

>>151431780
Yeah I loved the Kornet signing for them as soon as I saw it. He gives the Spurs great line up flexibility and will save Wemby a lot of wear and tear being able to match up against other centers
The Fox signing is funny because their offense looks pretty smooth even without him so far, but I think you still want him as the pg in late game possessions over Castle and Harper atleast for this season

>>151431940
If Smart regains his offensive touch and stays healthy it should be fine, Vando was never going to be good starting anyway since he's an energy guy

>>151431968
I wonder how fox felt about the harper pick
he's only 27, did he think he was gonna be wemby's pg when they became a contender?

What's an acceptable amount of weed to smoke a week before it becomes gay and/or a problem as an adult man?

>>151432026
Don't even start. Trust me. I've seen it ruin too many "casual" smokers.

>>151430909
Literally this

>somebody in an /nba/ thread actually reads philosophy
odd, did not expect anything other than meatheads here, let alone philosophy, philosophy is hard to read

>>151431601
You should look outside of 4chan, the jeet issue is the one issue that unites everyone. Right wingers, left wingers, white people and non-jeet brown people, 4chan and Reddit, over the last 5 years we've all collectively come to the agreement that jeets are gross and need to be bullied.

REFFIES PLEASE HELP US THIS IS KINGS BENCH WE'RE PLAYING

>>151432026
Is weed even legal in New Zealand? If it is, the answer is yes. Shout out to my friend who now lives in NZ Dewey Cook.

>>151432082
You have to be white to comprehend it

>>151431000
last time somebody did that 4chan died. that fucking wristlet.

>>151432140
We voted no to legalization 51-49 so no
But we also voted yes to euthanasia so boomers can kill themselves

>>151432151
That's one of the only times me and the igloojeet came together

>podz gets injured
>entire warriors team falls apart
how fucking shit is this team man?

Does /nba/ think my Hawkies have a chance this season? ;D ;D ;D

>>151432147
well it was another canadian who brought up wittgenstein, so if all canadians are jeets then either brown people can understand high level complex abstract concepts, or he's white

>>151432177
you gotta be careful with that shit before it gets out of hand
it's some people in here who'd be nicer if they still had their grandmas

>>151432026
Once per week. The amount you smoke in that 1 session doesn't really matter, you can blow your brain or just smoke one joint. The exact moment that any drug becomes gay is when it stops being a special ritual that you look forward to, and starts becoming a regular thing. Weed is probably the easiest drug to slowly fall into that lifestyle with, which is why I say once per week max.

This 3 point shooting is fucking absurd

>>151432240
Using flowery language and referencing midwit philosophy isn't exactly high level or complex, bud.

>>151432259
>1 in 20 deaths are assisted suicide
lol is Canada just icing every boomer with cancer or something

gabe vincent comeback season?

>>151432352
the funny thing is that their euthanasia law was passed with a lot of guardrails and requirements and then canadians kept suing to be allowed to die and winning so now it's ??? ya sure bud you can kill yourself right this way we'll have you in the grave before lunch

>>151432259
>It's easier to get a suicide injection than finding a doctor to treat your cancer in time
Holy grim

Boyfriend thinks SGA is better than Dwyane Wade

>>151432402
Ive seen they let people with mental illness/depression kill themselves too. Seems like a slippery slope

>>151432524
im sinking they have more chance than lakeshits

How surprised would you guys be if it turned out KD has posted on 4chan before

>>151432524
Can Tingus stay healthy? Is Jalen Johnson as good as every Hawksfag says he is?

>>151432561
very
he seems like he wants to be "participating in the conversation"

Lakers are going to play some ugly fucking ball this season

Uhhh bullsbros how are we feeling about this?

>>151432648
For some reason he refuses to go overseas when it's clear he's just not NBA calibre. The Shanghai sharks need this man

>>151432648
He only needs to be on a team long enough for eligibility to the dunk contest

yuki kawamura what went wrong :(

>>151432796
Leg injury. He might be back at some point

At what point did it go wrong for the warriors exactly post 22 this is sad man

what does jake laravia do

>>151432916
he jacks it to angel reese

>>151432893
yeah buymt jokics teams were totally worse and le on and off stat.

>post 22
also that 22 team was the exact fucking same as that 23 team and people act like the 23 team was horrendously ass, which it was, but every fucking body declined hard and the defense wasnt good enough anymore for curry to singlehandedly carry an offense despite having an insane 29 point season for a fucking 35 year old that still goes unappreciated to this day, how long curry was able to maintain such mvp level seasons in his mid thirties.

>>151432648
Probably they are going to sign him to the G-League in a 2-way contract.

How ass are the Lakers:

Uhhh bullsbros how are we feeling about this?

>>151433264
More like how awful the Warriors are,

losing to the clippers for the past 5 years now in reg season with Durant gone and losing a must win reg season game that would've helped them avoid the play-in

please atleast tell me my warriors lost to clippers starting lineup and not just some bum ass g leaguers

embiid come back will be kino

Mpj shot 76.6% TS against starters

Reaves is fucking trash lmao. How the fuck he go 3/15?

>>151433584
It's an off game retard

>>151433453
Anon I,

>new coach sold a beautiful bench game to make sure Nnaji & Tyson got their reps in
It's over. The locker room is already lost again.

>>151433747
wemby's heart exploded and has still played more games than her

what is the one word opinion or point a person can say that makes you immediately assume they're retarded and you shouldn't take anything they say seriously

>Calls foul and no whistle

These refs are such stupid annoying trannies

>>151433826
Honestly the sonic jersey's look retarded, OKC jerseys are just a better color scheme

>>151433796
All that height but does it add to his penis?

Im not a nugshits fan im a joksexual. Nuggets fucking suck ass. Jokic come join the nets

>>151433989
I took this statistics class in college. Our prof was a lazy cunt and just let us do projects on whatever statistics related we wanted. Anyway I had heard height has 0 relation to penis size which just seemed impossible to me. So I found several studies that either looked into that specifically or had data I could use to look into it. And it seemed to be true, height has no relation to penis size. I still don’t entirely believe it. If it’s true there’s tons of really tall dudes with dicks that look like toothpicks on their frame. If wemby has an average sized dick imagine what that looks like on him. Imagine it

>>151434034
yea there's a good chance caitlins boyfriend has a bigger cock than wemby. imagine being 7'8 with a 5.5 incher LMFAO. he might have to live on the air temple island as an acolyte

https://youtu.be/CGAkmWZbPaE
God fucking damn, that warriors stadium is fucking pathetic, just saw the OKC thunder fucking fill up the front seat cheering for their shitty small market team while they were losing for most of the game and eventually had a lucky last minute 3 to win the game and then theres...the warriors stands...everything about my team is pathetic, I dont know that I can take another season of failure, im tired of currgoat being underappreciated. He is going to be treated like Kobe once he retires, he doesnt have the legacy stats to look good to normies, he needs the rings to highlight the value of a 6'2 primarily offensive guard. Even retards like Jokic and even fucking Magic somehow get a pass for their defense because people cope like crazy since theyre big

fuark...time fo finish the video after sulking at how pathetic my warriors look knowing beforehand that they dont even win

https://youtu.be/CGAkmWZbPaE?t=2m20s
Like dude, I dont understand whats wrong with my warriors, the chemistry and ball movement here looks great? Does skill and fundamentals not matter anymore? Well we'll see when I finally watch a full game at season opener i guess

I didn't really get a chance to watch Kobe Bryant in his prime. What exactly made him so unstoppable that they gave him the nickname of the Black Mamba? Was he just faster and more athletic than everyone else? Did he just have good footwork or Basketball IQ or something?

>>151434162
he was Michael Jordan lite

>>151434162
He gave himself that nickname lol

>>151434213
Come on meng! Nobody just gives themselves a nickname. Fucking fake news!

>>151434162
>I didn't really get a chance to watch Kobe Bryant in his prime

https://youtu.be/CGAkmWZbPaE?t=4m15s
I swear to god curry is such an underrated player man, this is the type of stuff that never shows up in the box score and that youll never see in wannabe no name coaches talking about the Xs and Os of basketball IQ. But curry has always been such a good screener that knows where to be at the right time to create opportunities for teammates.

I've been really thinking about this for a long hard time. Jokic is like the opposite of steph, virtually every stat screams that he is a gawdlike player. When I say gawdlike I literally mean, the stats indicate that this guy should be better than virtually every single player to come before, and likely anyone to come after. His effiency stats within 3 feet are literally otherworldly, same as the stats within 3 to 10 feet. Unmatched. These are Shaq level efficiency stats, combined with elite level passing. How the fuck is this dude not winning every single year? And if thats somehow too much because "Le injuries and blah blah blah" not even 2 chips by now?

Nigga Hakeem won with the 94 rockets against MULTIPLE 60 win teams. How the fuck can it be that Jokic who blitzes everyone in all these stats isnt having all time carry jobs against strong competition?

I've been thinking a lot about how "lesser" players, like Tim Duncan could win so much, and get to the playoffs so consistently, against such STACKED competition, because even this years western conference probably wont be as stacked as a lot of Duncans. And its not like Duncan has ever had insanely top tier teams. That 03 run is legitimately insane.

So how do we account for the value of guys like Duncan that dont have crazy flashy or exceptional stats until you start cherrypicking combined stats (like how much he ranks top 5 in blocks rebounds blah blah) to get a specific outcome.

And its made me think there must be some almost invisible all encompassing valuable that isnt accounted by the stats which shows true value.

if i was lebron id sit out the entire season even if im healthy. holy fuck this team is fucking shit.

Anyway warriors fans, what do we think of Pat Spencer? Ive been watching this guy closely and he kind of cant shoot, but he does everything else really well, really good hustle, good at finding cutters, good at reading the floor, making the extra pass, even surprisingly randomly gets to the rim when you dont expect. I dont know, he doesnt look flashy at all, but im liking his game and how much he makes his presence known in all these little ways.

zoomer league aint rdy for unc ring on god

Man it's so crazy that the Spurs are already starting another dynasty.

Im going to say something thatll sound crazy but I think Curry is underrated.

Hey lakers fans
fuck you

>>151434370
>Fat fuck
>Dnp: calf injury
>Dnp: load management (knee)

What was he thinking when he felt that snap?

>>151434678
It's so sad man. Pacers were gonna win that game. Hali was gonna have an all time run to the championship. Fucking injuries.

Is this ants year?

Why were people so quick to write off Joel Embiid? In the 23-24 season after his mvp from the prior year, he was averaging 35 a night. Did they seriously think he would fall off a cliff after 1 season of sitting out?

>>151434162
Like Jordan, Bryant used competitiveness as a trompe l’oeil to create depth of personality and a marketable persona. Mamba Mentality—an orthodoxy derived from his self-supplied nickname of the Black Mamba—was not so much about striving for victory as about winning in the most self-aggrandizing way possible. It is an ethos of personal responsibility that presents not only work ethic and relentless effort as virtuous, but also jacking up the final shot. A lesser player could not have pulled it off, but Bryant was magnificent enough to win on his own terms.

Most famously, Bryant challenged Shaquille O’Neal for control of the Lakers during a stretch where the team went to four Finals in five seasons and won three titles. He grumbled about the big man’s conditioning and groused that Jackson’s triangle offense did not stretch a broad enough canvas to contain his artistry (Shaq’s response was threatening to loaf: “If the big dog ain’t me,” he said, “then the house won’t get guarded”). The center was soon postmarked for Miami. Bryant’s coup was successful, but the Lakers went 34-48 the next season and failed to escape the first round of the playoffs until Pau Gasol joined the team four years later.

>>151434896
because hes a big man with a big injury history. not everybody can be curry and fix his shit. has nothing to do with ability.

>>151434896
he's going to have trouble running and his defense will take a hit.

>>151434896
history says he's going to fall off a cliff. 30+ with a bunch of leg injuries. He couldn't even handle a 82 game season when he was young and "healthy" and that's not the type of thing that gets better with age

>>151434911
Thank you ChatGPT for this rare accurate summary explanation.

>>151434992
hand typed.

>all the Nuggets vs Thunder games in the regular season happen after February
This should be fun

>>151434896
Last season he could barely move when he played

can donshit bring lakeshit into the 'off?

>>151434896
ur body can heal but ur mind breaks forever.

>>151434896
Embiid redeeming himself by winning the title in this years weak east
kino

>>151435199
It would be sad if it turned out that he actually has a few more years in him but he's stuck having to play with washed PG, McCain, and Edgecombe

>>151435032
Think they can make a 7-8 seed at best

>>151435231
Yeah pretty much. I just hate the roster around Embiid, even if he can play. I don't think Maxey is anything special

>>151435403
>Maxey
Guy had one good year, has a hot mom, and that's about it.

Just ignore Canada & Pinoy flags, they literally just spam le ebin bawb XD & bring nothing to the thread.
Also they dont know ball.

Luka might average a 40 point triple double while Bron's out injured

>>151435586
Lebron ruins everything.

>>151432206
Nba media is high on the hox but I'm not personally. Between KP and Jalen Johnson that is like 80 games that will be missed for injury.

>>151435920
so who can lakers pick up on FA market next season when Lebron leaves?

>>151436193
2026 free agents are bad, they could pick up a few role players though. Maybe Mitchell Robinson

Miami waive veteran Precious Achiuwa

KD getting cook live on twitter lmao

https://x.com/Wizelycook/status/1979261222685127140?t=28_PRohORPoPk-E8gGtFkQ&s=19

Luka lookin gooooood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDG4TVTClhA

Who will have the least wins this season? The heat?

>>151437978
careful, you'll upset him

kd probably had an insane amount of money in unrealized crypto gains.
digged a little deeper, he got the account back. ezmoneysniper. is up over 17000%

>Rockets have historically good OffRebound season
>finish 2nd in the west
>suddenly teams are trying to find double big pairings
>preseason offensive rebounding rate has shot through the roof
Too early to tell, but unironically 24-25 Rockets may have been a team that changed the league itself comparable to Curry changing the league with memechucks.

>>151430909
Steph get your wife

so fucking annoying all these players injured before season even begins

Jazz have some really nice pieces. Walter Clayton Jr, Isaiah Collier, Ace Bailey all playing exceptionally well in the preseason then you have bigs Markkanen and Kessler and still no chance of flirting with the play-in so they’ll add another blue chip

>>151438307
A lot of teams were already using double bigs.

/wnba/ died so it means I have to pick a team for /nba/

>>151438307
Double big revolution started with KAT and Gobert

>>151439222
Pretty underwhelming three years into a rebuild

>>151439454
ace is the truth, bawb. accept it.

Healthy Lonzo Ball

>>151439474
Him and Kessler are the only good pieces for a rebuild

>>151439405
>>151439431
I meant specifically the focus on offensive rebounding. One of the worst shooting teams in the league made it work and placed #2 in the West solely off the back of offensive rebounding and that seems to be a big focus for many teams this season.

>>151439753
And neither will be stars

>>151439898
Ace will be the best in class regardless

>>151439974
Only if both Flagg and Harper are monumental busts. Ace's ceiling isn't near theirs because he can't handle the ball at all

>>151440051
He scored 29pts on 28 dribbles, he doesn’t need a handle. Cooper and Harper will have higher usage and worse careers/accolades

>>151440105
How many of the current stars in the league can't self create or pass? Unless he improves massively then he'll be MPJ level, another guy who recently had a high scoring preseason game

>>151432561
I thought it was a given he posts here

>>151440379
If that’s his floor imagine his ceiling

>>151438307
Retard thats not even close to a curry level change dumbass. Shaq also changed lineups, and introduced a new focus on fouling, that doesnt mean he actually changed the way basketball is played.

Rebounding is the lowest skill stat in the entire game, thats why you can just put somebody like steve adams under a hoop and get free rebounds, thats why you can have the 2016 OKC thunder out rebounding the warriors at every turn and still lose, because its not a skill, its not a value. Its an opportunity, and the opportunity doesnt matter if it can consistently and easily be shut down or never taken advantage of.

Whole league is full of bums looking for the easy unskilled way to win ball.

>>151441128
That's not his floor, that's near to his ceiling barring genuine outlier development (if he somehow develops a handle and an on ball game). MPJ is near to the cap of how good play finishing wings/forwards can be. Markkanen is maybe who Bailey should strive to be like

https://x.com/nba_university/status/1979565619554255064
Holy goat

NEW THINKING BASKETBALL VIDEO ON MY GOOOOOOAT MY GOOOOOOOOOAT

>>151441277
Markkanen/MPJ can’t defend like Ace but he can shoot like either of them, his ceiling is All NBA a la Klay Thompson/Jaren Jackson Jr play finishing forwards

>be me
>was literally talking yesterday about how Curry is an underrated great screener and that doesnt show on the box score
>thinking basketball comes out with this video

DUDE WTF, AM I SECRETLY IN TUNE WITH THE BALL KNOWING GODS? AM I A BALL KNOWER WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING THAT IM A BALL KNOWER?

Nobody engaged with my thinking yesterday, because as much as retards here pretend they talk about ball. They dont. They talk about player trades and how teams fit abstractly like legos.

If Wardell wins this year...I gotta put him number 3, fuck kareem.

>>151441882
You’re not tired of this gimmick yet?

>>151441753
Ace has good physical tools but wasn't a standout defender in college. I think he has two way potential though for sure (not near to JJJ level). Also Ace absolutely cannot shoot like them, not even close. See picrel

https://youtu.be/NjYX7jc0dOI?t=2m7s
clips like this are the most hilarious shit ever, every single player on the warriors team from 2015 to now, has had their cieling raised by wardell. look at this ridiculous free shit. Niggas LITERALLY run by iguadola, I have never ever seen this in my life. The occasional random bum defender can get caught up on guarding a dude that doesnt really need to be guarded in transition because of the confusion, but these guys are doing this to curry and iggy. RIGHT INSIDE THE opposing teams 3 POINT LINE

LeBitch and klutch mafia on suicide watch

>>151442708
Jorgambler...ain't nobody scared of his boomer ass lmao. Carlina niggas are corny as hell

i might root to the orlando magic this season too

>>151442708
it's LeOver....

>>151441335
jokic was an mpj merchant

>>151442708
KEK the real reason LeBeta is faking an injury comes out

>>151432026
7 grams

>>151432275
Imagine being so weak minded you let weed take over your life

Damn I just got diagnosed with schizophrenia not even joking

I used to rule the world
Seas would rise when I gave the word
Now in the morning, I sleep alone
Sweep the streets I used to own

Zacch Risacher is 6’10 now and looking good in his preseason minutes

Westbrick the journeyman

>>151445668
Westbrick is that last ditch option you get when building your team didn’t go right

Meal

Do NOT read those comments under thinking basketballs new video, the curry haters are literally insane and delusional, coping that the only reason curry has gravity is because hes small and weak, and so defenders know that they can just double or triple him, and claiming that Durant is just so good and insane that he cant be doubled, and if you ever bring up the 2022 Celtics series or the 2016 Warriors Series. Or the 2023 Phoenix series suddenly the only reason Curry beat that same Celtics team Durant lost to, is because Andrew Wiggins was actually mini Michael Jordan all along, and the true finals MVP and led the team in scoring in one game, and scored in the 4th quarter. Also dont forget Jordan Poole also carried. Wait what? His defense? Wait what, Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins in 2023? Who cares? They carried in 2022, we dont actually care whether theyre consistent and flawless players that actually carried or rather if they had a lucky series, what we care is how we can use them as a narrative against Curry.

I've also heard people now saying that the only reason Curry wins anything is because Kerr is just a "GOD" of course, they always ignore the conveniently insanely large sample size we have of the warriors playing without Kerr being head coach at the beginning of 2016, where they broke the early season record of wins without losses. But actually you see, Kerr was there in spirit so thats why they won.

Curry has the most disrespectful narratives against him of all NBA players ever because his value isnt as loud flashy and easy to see for braindead retards that dont know ball.

>>151444851
the only street this yuppie owns is sesame street on dvd

>>151446536
Meds

>>151446536
Where was the gravity when he threw a 3-1 lead in the NBA finals to LeBum lmao. Curry will never be Top 5

>>151446536
Calm down lil bro he's not that good.

>>151445686
Nobody actually wants Westbrook on their team, you just wind up with him in a bad year

>>151446945
...is what KLUTCH wants you to think. Westbrook elevates the teams he is on. Expect the KANGZ in the play-ins

>>151446673
Curry was far from the best player but.
>Curry's offensive options besides himself in every Loss to the Cavs in 2016 Finals:
Klay Thompson Game 3: 1/7 3p 4/13 fg%
Harrison Barnes Game 5: 1/6 3p 2/14 fg%
Klay had a good game Game 5. Curry was 5/15 but a reminder that Curry got injured twice in this playoffs, and Klay is notoriously streaky, this game gave gim a 70% true shooting, better than Lebron and only worse than Kyrie, who had an 80% true shooting, another lucky bastard. If you think either Klay or Kyrie were better than Lebron or Curry because of these lucky games, youre retarded and dont watch ball. I wish I could find footage of game 5 to see how many of those points were a result of curry being face guarded. But I cant.

Anyway

Game 6 Klay Thompson: 3/10 3p 9/21 fg%
not horrible but kind you klay took the most shots on his team this game
Game 6 Harrison Barnes: 0/5 3p 0/8 fg%
Bonus Shaun Livingston: 1/6 fg%

Game 7 Curry was REALLY bad this game so ill include his numbers to be fair: 4/14 3p 6/19 fg%
Game 7 Klay: 2/10 3p 6/17 fg%
Game 7 Harrison Barnes: 2/4 3p 3/10fg%

Some context. To be fair. EVERYBODY played Horrible this game except draymond and arguably Kyrie although he didnt play great, just best of the worst.

Lebron shot 9/24 this game thats 37.5% fg for mathlets
Kyrie shot 10/23 thats 43.5% fg.

Its amazing how much of a difference in efficiency one more shot made and one less shot taken, can make.

How’d they win with this bullshit? Baylor only played 9 games as well

>>151447095
Nigga Jerry is a top 15 tier player, and also why dont you look at the actual minutes played retard to get an idea of how it worked out?

>>151447134
Jerry West lost more Finals than anyone, was he not a top 15 player in all the other Finals series lost?

>>151444625
He's not going to get marry soon

>>151447616
He just needs to keep long enough to impregnate and hopefuly have a super athelete son

>>151447616
I feel like he’s going to wind up on the Warriors when Pat gives up/retires

>>151430882 (OP)
Curry is higher on the list than Kobe.
Curry is the better player

>>151448289
The game is played two ways

>>151448317
He's been a positive defender for a decade now. The unfortunate reality is that the modern game is tooled to pit the 6'8 guy onto the midget 100 possessions in a row.

>>151448289
that's cause Kobe is not even a Top 10 player, Curry being better than Kobe is a non statement

defense is nowhere near as valuable as offense and I'm tired of midwits who keep bringing it up. There's a reason why a Dyson Daniels gets paid half of what a Trae does

>>151448563
Offense is more valuable on a bad team, that is true. You'd rather have Dyson than Trae on a contender though

Finished with my woman cause she
couldn't help me with my mind

>>151448453
What's your top 10 list, nonny?
Here's mine:
1. Jordan (1 or 2)
2. Lebron (2 or 1)
3. Kareem (3 to 6)
4. Shaq (3 to 6)
5. Bird (3 to 6)
6. Magic (3 to 6)
7. Duncan (3 to 8)
8. Curry (7 or 8)
9. Olajuwon (9)
10. Russel (10 or 11)
11. Kobe (10 or 11)
12. Garnett (underrated but 12 to 13)
13. Wilt (overrated but 12 to 13)

I'm not very solid on the guys in the middle of the list. I kind of flip flop between them depending on the day or which way the wind is blowing.

>>151448831
I will never understand how Kobe is even top 25 when his title came when his teams had Shaq, Pau, Bynum, freaking Artest in his prime and Odom in his prime

>>151448317
Kobe was never a plus enough defender post 3 peat for this to even matter. if you think so, you dont know ball

>>151449014
Every top 25 player had stacked teams with HoFmers. Do you think Pau and Artest are better than Dramond and KD?

>>151449014
I'm mostly with you and get labeled a Kobe hater because my opinion of him didn't change after he died, but saying he's not even top 25 is rather disingenuous

>>151448831
Shaq being 4 is retarded. Overrated bum.

There are only 2 players, ever in top 10 talks where the "quality" of teammates played with is suddenly a negative on their ranking: Kobe and Curry.

I have NO clue in what world Bird is ever that high while having 3 chips and 2 MVPs and it took Curry a 4th chip to even be considered for top 10s.

I have no idea in what world Kareem can lose for like an entire decade in the weakest era the NBA has ever had, and only win when Magic came along, and be considered top 3, when Wilt is taxed for no rings. (To be fair some oldheads are insane about him)

>>151449324
Curry and Kobe are also the only “top ten guys” with fewer FMVP selections than their MVP teammates

>>151449324
Curry is pretty much nipping at the heels of all of the players 3-6. The only reason he isn't higher is because I grew up watching those players and am inherently biased.
In fairness to you, I'm waiting for him to retire to see how much better I feel about ranking him higher.

I also don't value championships as much. There's too much luck involved and needed for your team to be good enough to rack up rings. This goes both ways for me. Less chips or more chips doesn't change a whole lot.

>Kareem
Losing for a decade before winning after getting top tier talent? Sounds very familiar to someone who everyone thinks is the goat...

>>151449324
Kareem won in like his second year in the league,

>>151449846
So did some Maurice Lucas of the 1977 blazers, nigga sit down, bum ass dominant Kareem couldn't win throughout the entire 70s? Gets locked up by Moses Malone in the fucking early 80s, and only starts winning when magic leads some of the most consistent offenses ever? We done with Kareem man.

TYBD

>>151450356
Jokic/Curry can’t dominate the 2020s?

>>151448831
Jordan
Kareem
Bird
Magic
Duncan
LeBron
Curry
Olajuwon
Wilt
Russel
Kobe
Garnett
Dirk
KD

>>151450356
Maurice Lucas wasn't finals MVP

harden has a 6 yo son thats news
>>151450385
TYBD

>>151450591
It's not his son. It's the baby mamas kid hes raising

>>151446536
Medication

>>151450684
He also has a biological son so theres 2 kids. And a 3rd is on the way

>>151450684
Nah, it's his bio son. His GF also has a son that's the same age, that's Mario Chalmer's kid iirc.

It's been a while, but this is a new season and my CeltGODS need me... Is Weapschizo still here?

TateGOD thread BTW

>>151447616
What a cheeky bastard kek

>>151450535
Who cares retard? Nice goalpost move, he still averaged the most in the playoffs on his team

>>151451295
And yet nobody would pretend he was more important than Bill Walton or a better player. Sit down nephew.

VJ roty

Was he actually good?

>>151451697
Him dying was the greatest thing to ever happen to his legacy. If he was still alive, his rotten meat wouldn't be getting ridden so hard today.
My hoop friends and I often joke that Lebron will fake his death one day in a tragic manner to finally get over MJ in the GOAT debate to most casual fans.

We got Walter Clayton Jr

>>151451697
His dead daughter saved his legacy, all you need to redeem your legacy as a rapists to sacrifice your flesh and blood.

I'm nothing but a fraud.

We watching Low's Family Feud?

Westbrick downfall

>>151451670
>No

Too ball dominant and could barely hit a 3 to save his life,

But he was GOATED at handles, he revolutionized that for guys like Curry, Kyrie, Lamelo, Shai, etc

Genuinely, how do you stop him?

>>151453759
Literally just stand in front of him. He's too tall to move any stronger, shorter defenders.

>>151453905
he's gonna go giannis mode soon

>>151454549
niggas really thought wembironfist was a game

>>151451839
>Him dying was the greatest thing to ever happen to his legacy.
certainly covers up what happened in Colorado.
if LeBron did fake his own death it would probably overshadow all the burn loot murder simping he did, and him punching down on a traumatized 18 year old.

>>151454549
This will work for like 10 games before he hurts himself

>>151454684
you can't doubt forever
he got the shaolin monk tech

>>151454835
Giannis is like 5 or 6 inches shorter than him

>>151453759
put Embiid on him and watch him die to a thousand flops

>>151453759
Stop what? He wins 30 games or less per season

skitz...

>>151456079
Inceltic already won.

>>151456079
Nigga going to the Lakers

I can't keep living like this bro

>>151456079
>I believe it's time
I should start skipping to the end of the quote to check if it says "-Kendrick Perkins" or "-Steven A Smith" or whatever

>>151457494
this. niggas just be yappin

>>151442708
lebron became the goat after 2016

Mpj might get traded to a contender

>>151457729
He'd unironically be perfect on the Thunder kek

>>151430882 (OP)
C O N G O
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S
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>>151457729
>>151457770

>>151456079
2 years at lakers and 2 years at clips

>>151434370
Kawhi is fully liberated. I want to have his mindset 100% of the time. He should be sweating right now. He gives zero fucks. Its awesome.

>>151459404
Dame said it best: plenty money

so when my dubbies win the larry o brain which one of you is having gay sex with me

>>151460303
this post has the Leaf Curry fans name all over it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da68pXTFJXw

my sides

>>151430882 (OP)

>>151461411
lol he actually played for the NFL

Will the Lakers be able to build a competitive team around Luka before he starts to decline? Right now their roster is mediocre and will probably need to completely tank and rebuild once LeBron leaves at the end of this season. They're probably at least 5 or 6 years away from seriously competing at which point Luka will probably already be physically washed due to his obesity and chronic injuries

>>151434896
Embiid looks like he has AIDS now

>>151448831
Bill Russell was basically Dennis Rodman, it's insane how overrated he is

>>151461495
There are always some decent rotation players in free agency, and they'll have loads of cap space. They also have quite a few tradable picks still, so they'll be able to get a third 'star' at some point. They'll be fine I reckon

>>151446536
he's only good because he had klay

>>151461512
>Bill was basically Rodman, except a HoF defensive player, both in the paint and at the point of attack. In addition to being a better offensive player who could post up, score points, pass the ball a little, and all of this is added onto him being an athletic freak.
FTFY

>>151461495
>>151461608
Maybe 2027 when Jokic and Giannis hit free agency, at that point, Lebron would've retired and freed up the cap space

Yup. KD owns these fools.

>>151462211
I don't think any of those three would really work together. They're all high usage offensive hubs. The Lakers would be smart to avoid falling for the 'super team' meme

>>151462359
That's obviously a Durant burner

>>151462359
KD and his fans really force the "we don't even care, we're actually the ones laughing at you!" thing

>>151462359
This would make sense if KD wasn’t arguing with teenagers on a burner account to begin with

DURANT FROM THE TOP ROPE

Duncan has more rings in his career with one team that LeBron does with 3.

>>151462938
Duncan had Pop, Robinson, Purdue, Bowen, Manu, Tony, Avery Johnson, Boris Diaw, Patty Mills and Kawhi Leonard. Let’s not pretend LeBron’s teams ever offered that level of support

>>151462381
Actually i was trying to say either Giannis or Jokic could join the lakers, not necessarily both. But your point still stands. But then idk which superstar could they get from free agency to pair with Luka in the near future.

>>151463043
Starting from Miami Lebron handpicked his teams, any deficiencies is on him

>>151463201
Yeah I meant either one of Giannis or Jokic, getting both would be impossible I assume. If I were the Lakers I'd try to add role players in free agency and retain my picks until a star becomes available. I don't think they'll be able to get any real superstars, but maybe a player like Bam, Siakam, Zubac or Markkanen. One of them with Luka and Reaves is enough starpower

>>151463259
LeBron handpicked Joel Anthony at starting center? Gtfoh, LeBron couldn’t even pick his coach in Miami

Oh brother, will skap put Jokic in over Curry? I almost dont even want to watch knowing he has Kobe at 3. Kobe fans HATE curry.

>>151461683
retard.

>>151461683
true and buddy hield almost saved his career right?
does nobody ever question how one dimensional catch and shoot guys with slightly above average defense can so consistently randomly drop 35+ points with zero creation of their own? must be something mystical and unseen about the warriors that allows for such a thing, I couldnt imagine what.

Need love like this.

currdawg...going to be opening the season happy...the chip is ours.

>>151464518
She wants a real man

>>151464518
I don't understand why she isn't happy with him.

Thoughts on the Miami Twice LeBrons?
Gonna cop.

Is this the worst top 10 list ever conceived? This is what you get when you build a list based on arbitrary parameters of "minimum 5 all nba and all defensive awards" and nothing about the actual basketball game itself.

>>151464941
She likes dark skinned men

>>151465237
then why did she keep letting steph shoot kewpie mayo into her pussy after she already have his kids

>>151465265
Money

>>151465112
>Larry over Magic
BAWB moment

>>151465370
I hate all white people as well but Bird had a more complete game than Magic

>>151465483
Doesn't matter when he was a career playoff dropper and needed 3+ other hall of famers just to win.

>>151430882 (OP)
How the fuck do you have a head like this and speak five languages?

>>151465577
LOW watcher...gawdlike

>>151465112
>kobe in top 10
lol

>>151465577
And how many hall of famers did Curry need?

>>151465623
This guy is smarter, taller, more athletic and wealthier than 99.9% of the world. Behold a superior specimen

>>151465816
not just top 10, but number 2, unironically using those 10 all defensive propaganda awards as support from his argument. accolades is a midwit magnet. for people who dont watch or understand ball

black american kings, we support the cavs right? the starting 5 is all american and black

jokic and curry surpassed hakeem and kobe. and kobe > hakeem and wilt too. I think this is Denver's year too and then we can start talking Jokic over Jordan and Magic maybe but not quite LeBron and Kareem level.

>>151465997
1.

>>151461411
I feel like all kinds of shit was going on in the bayou

MPJ and Cam Thomas with all playmakers and defenders on the roster is extremely scary in the East. Marks is trying to build the Nets up like the Pacers

Why was Joe Tsai and Sean Marks tricked by the Jewish media into blowing up a contender? Now we got guys out here pretending Cam Thomas and MPJ are building blocks to something.

>>151468814
MPJ is trash. He averages 10 points in the playoffs against any team that is not the Lakers and is getting paid 40 million dollars

Ever since that Thinking Basketball video about Curry being the GOAT screener, and seeing the comments from KD dicksuckers trying to hate on currgoat. I went to watch analysis on the different Celtic series Durant and Curry had to understand how Durcanters cope about this.
https://youtu.be/hrD5hCP8X6s
One dude said "They blitzed Durant because his shot and dropped on Curry because...his shot is worse"??? They were never quite clear on the reasoning for this as Duretards tend to be. But the logic doesnt even make sense if you know ball.

You blitz poor ball handlers/playmakers not shooters. And you only blitz shooters when nobody else on their team can shoot or playmake.

First of all Durant doesnt get blitzed, he gets soft doubled. Where somebody comes off their man to apply pressure in driving lanes and prevent durant from getting to his spot. But the ONLY reason this even actually works, is because Durants playmaking simply isnt good enough to make the extra pass, or find the open shooter. Or even just the roll man. KD is too tunneled on finding his spots and jacking his spots to punish people providing help defense. And its not like he didnt have a good roll man in Bruce Brown, or solid shooters in Kyrie and Seth, Patty Mills. Fuck, even Bruce Brown shot 40% in that playoffs.

So I dont get the excuses Durant gets for blatantly having more flaws than Curry, but apparently its Currys fault that the Celtics dropped against him, to take away the pick and roll, and reduce Currys offball effectiveness, forcing him to be more of an on-ball playmaker/scorer (which everybody said he couldnt do, as he proceeded to do exactly that) https://youtu.be/t6_vawdzRok

If you want to understand ball, these videos are really good indepth stuff. Im basically watching an analysis of the entire 2022 playoffs in prep for opening season

>>151469707
The parallels are obvious
Championship caliber PF disregarded by their old team - Pascal Siakam/MPJ
“Overrated” offense only guard that isn’t respected by their original team - Cam Thomas/Tyrese Haliburton

We drafted long playmakers, defenders and shooters at every other position we just need two of the 5 rookies to be starting level and we’re OKC Easy in terms of depth, assets and cost controlled contracts

https://youtu.be/M12zwickSCw?t=4m55s
For example. This is the biggest difference between Durant and Curry. Go watch the video I linked, and youll see how often Durant drives into the lane with help defense ready, just to look for his shot, or pick up the ball too early. He doesnt make quick reads as well, and honestly isnt even as fast as curry off the first step.

Id post all this in that youtube section implying that Durant got the "hard defense" while Curry got the easy defense as if there wasnt a blatant reason for that. But these youtube niggas wont appreciate the ball knowledge and its harder to just link another youtube video in a youtube comments thread expecting the retards there to actually watch it.

But /nba/ KNOWS AND APPRECIATES DEEP BALL TALK RIGHT?

>>151469941
Okay you'd have a point if it wasnt the Brooklyn Nets though. The Pacers atleast had some legacy to live up to, and a top tier coach. Also Hali and Siakam were both smarter players than MPJ and Cam from an early point. Its not that they couldn't develop to that point too but...with a coach I dont even know the name of, pretty hard pressed to think that'll happen.

>>151470132
Jordi is a great coach and squeezed so many wins out of last year’s roster they had to trade off great vets. The Nets have ABA titles with Dr J and more recent Finals appearances than Indiana, Carlisle is no doubt a better couch but the Pacers didn’t have Marks or the war chest of picks the Nets do now to build plus cap space

>>151465112
> Kobe top 5
> Kobe above GOATreem CHADul-CHADBAR
> Hakeem over Larry/Magc
> Wilt over Shaq

>>151465901
Why does Ayesha froth at the mouth at the sight of darkskin meat. Is Curry's 3-incher not good enough for her...

>>151470487
>> Hakeem over Larry/Magc
Im a Hakeem upplayer and even I think the way this nigga gets overrated sometimes just because of defense, is all about narratives rather than actual ball.

>>151470132
>>151470334
Also the Pacers are cheap and won’t pay for a championship contender multiple years whereas whoever owns the Nets desperately tries to make them a contender and will spend unlimited even second apron

>>151470633
SkapAttack is just an obvious retard if his non stop Kobe glaze didn't clue you in but yeah. Everybody loves Hakeem and he was one of the greatest players in a historically stacked position at center but he isn't Top 5. Definitely Top 10 but not better than MJ, Kareem, Larry or Magic and those are guys that played in his own era.

>Durant extension
>takes a team friendly deal so we can extend Tari
Perhaps the best case scenario for us. Needed the extension and happy he was willing to accept less money.

>>151471009
Y’all aren’t bout to win shit

>>151471009
Cockshits only championship window was this season and VanVleet ruined it by getting injured in the summer. It's unironically joever.

>>151471279
Dinshittie will save them

>>151469941
He is not championship caliber though. In the Finals against the 8th seed Heat he got benched for a rookie and Bruce Brown because he was shooting under 20% from 3. Yes, he actually shot 14% from 3 in the NBA Finals against an 8th seed, 4/28 to be exact. That doesn't sound championship caliber to me at all. And it's not like he has other skills that make up for it.

He is a massive choker and his injuries make him a cone on defense. If the Nuggets had Siakam instead of him they would have easily three-peated by now

>>151471806
He’s younger than Siakam though, that’s like saying OG Anunby isn’t an elite championship level PF because he was hurt in 2019 and couldn’t contribute. Jordi is going to have him playing like Keegan Murray/Sabonis instead of just a spot up shooter

You have to understand players like MPJ aren’t going to flourish in heliocentric offenses where one player has the ball the entire game and distributing duties. On the Nets everyone can play PG even Danny Wolf (backup C) so he’s going to be getting good looks all night and can shoot over most defenders like KD

>>151471806
>>151471940
Also we have more defense than the Nuggets where you have multiple defensive liabilities on the floor at any given time. Jordi waived anybody who couldn’t play elite D aside from Wolf, Cam and MPJ so we’ll scheme around MPJ’s defensive woes

Warriors are going to chip, cap this.

>>151471940
What makes you think he can be anything other than a spot up shooter? Pretty sure the Nuggets would have loved if they had a 3rd player that can dribble and create his own shot, especially if the pay him 40 million dollars per year. Maybe he just can't do it though and that's why he ended up being a spot up shooter

>>151472368
He’s a spot up shooter cause everyone has to play a specific role around Jokic. You don’t think they’d have traded him before his max extension if he tried to put the ball on the floor or bring it up on Jokic’s team? Now he can play more of his game and elevate it as the alpha 1A/B

>>151472513
>Talented but injury prone has to be traded because of salary cap

Where have I seen this before, blame Calfag Booth anyways, and any dumbass gm throwing the superstar extensions and then when the other solid roleplayers want their own extension they cant pay them shit,

Porter is a great player and its legitmately hard to come across his archetype (lightskin Lebron James/KD) and he still has a future in the league but man was his contract genuinely fucking awful, I do think Denver loses alot with the loss of him, if Porter comes to Houston or LAC after his stint in brooklyn and somehow wins a ring there and becomes a pre injury Tatum level playmaker than its a huge loss for Denver,

Cause Cam is older and left the prev season with a back injury and arguably has more surgeries as well

>>151471745
But can Dinwiddie mesh into a solid PG in just a few months to where they can hit a playoff berth??

>>151472513
This doesn't make sense. Murrayy plays heroball all the time and he is on Jokic's team. Also they wouldn't have given him that much money if they knew that all he could do is be a spot up shooter

They definitely wanted more from him but he just couldn't deliver. Maybe it's his injuries that limit him which sucks but what can you do. I am gonna be really really surprised if he suddenly has handles and does anything more than shoot 3s and get rebounds. But I don't think that is gonna happen because he is probably afraid he might get injured again

Even without all the chips lost that my warrgods deserved to win. The Warriors are undoubtedly the greatest team unit, not just of this decade, of the last decade, but of the 21st century
https://youtu.be/jbNS09Rt4u8

>>151470755
>Definitely Top 10 but not better than MJ, Kareem, Larry or Magic and those are guys that played in his own era.
Hes not even better than Curry.

>>151473402
That makes more sense when you have Murray taking 20+ shots and handling the ball as well, where are the isolation touches for MPJ wherein he can develop as a scorer? Exactly
You don’t make it to this level without an elite deep bag and now without Jokic/Murray handicapping him we’ll see him average closer to 30 with a roster built to his strengths, for the first time ever

>>151472513
Im positive on MPJ and even I dont believe this. Go and watch his 30 point preseason game. Most of those shots are catch and shoot. If he wants to have the same trajectory post Toronto, Pacers Siakam had. He'll need a top tier distributor just like Siakam. Cam is not that.

some of yall niggas need to watch the games. One of the biggest disappointments with MPJ is he never tightened up his handle and in general can't create for himself. Elite spot up shooter, can attack a closeout, can come off a pindown, cleans up junk when engaged, but that's about it. Perfect for a 3rd option if he made like 10 mil less. He'll never crack star territory without a better handle but it hasn't looked good so far. There's also some disturbing stuff in high leverage games, but the nets don't really have to worry about that

>>151465623
Also a black belt in judo IIRC.
Not someone you would want to fuck with.

>>151473671
I hope you are right because he seems like a cool dude and I hope he becomes an All-Star but I don't think that's what happened at all with the Nuggets. I feel like both Jokic and Murray had to do more because MPJ couldn't do what he was supposed to do. Also even if he somehow develops as a player and becomes an elite 1st/2nd option, he seems to have the choke gene which makes him very unreliable for the playoffs which is basically the reason he got traded in the first place

>>151474148
All Star is not even thinking about reality. He’s in the East and the central offensive hub of a team full of guys who can’t create their own shot. MPJ is going to be perennial NBA and the face of the Nets unless Marks decides to trade him for “character reasons” off the court shit like Kyrie
Now imagine a lineup of all 6’9 and taller the Nets have that already playmaking, length and defense at every position

>>151430882 (OP)
>this is what they gave Kobe
>he won two rings with it

>>151474398
>be kobe fan
>be disingenuous retard
tracks. wait...skap is that you?

>>151471279
Surely

>>151474266
Oh my god bro I think you forgot your meds

>>151431014
Jeets btfo

>>151469707
Stop falling for ragebaits

woah....jorgoat* did it without another star*...is this why hes da goat*?

There's plenty of players on the Nuggets that would shine more if Jokic wasnt getting 100 fucking touches a game and they didnt have to play around his system. MPJ will certainly shine more this year, there is literally nobody else in the league that fills his niche of a 6'10 sharpshooter with near unguardable jumpshot. Brooklyn will benefit him more since he wont be having to play around waiting for wacky meme passes

>>151475360
Egor Denim
Cam Thomas
MPJ
Claxton/Noah Clowney
Danny Wolf/Claxton

That’s fifteen assist a night between the bigs and PG and 60pts between our stars

Currgoat>Kobean
Who's retarded enough to disagree?

do you get paid based on the number of posts you make? shut the fuck up dude, yapping to yourself all day ffs

>>151469424
they might be.
it is rather funny that the former Nets player goes to the team in the south coached by the former Nets player that brought them to the finals twice.

what anime is we watching rn bros?

>>151477009
Every Nets point guard eventually goes to the Mavericks (D’lo, Dinwiddie, Deron Williams, Devin Harris)

Lukasissies

well?

>>151477759
>they're still putting Gaytum alongside the younger players of the league
Xir has reached his peak already and it was pathetic. And I don't know what's the bigger joke, the slant or Amen Bitchson. Amens ceiling is being the best in his prison league after he gets arrested for attacking someone. That aggressive ape.

>>151477759
Wemby then Mobley

Gaytums career peak was an * nobody respects than being clowned on as a waterboy on the USA team. Absolute KWAB. He will only fall down in relevance from here.

>b-but look at the 10 second clips where he is jumping and running
Now let's see a 48 minute, 82 game season.

>>151478275
What’s Herro’s peak?

the Nets must return to NJ, that's the only sure way to cleanse them of their woke aesthetic and cringe.

>>151477759
In tiers:
>Wemby
>Shai
>Flagg, Tatum, Ant
>Mobley, Amen
>Paolo, Cade, Ball
>Barnes
>Yang
Although I think predicting ceilings is pointless

>>151476857
Took a break so I wasnt able to post more here. When are we going to deal with ball-less (knowledge) niggas clogging up the space here?

>>151477480
Why are shai fans so insecure and always lashing out? Didn't he just complete basketball

>>151469833
Ew. All that “thinking basketball” stuff is just pseudo-basketball philosophy for Jews & BAWB’s that can’t actually hoop.

Nets just let OKC pickup Dariq Whitehead, it’s over. I knew this would happen and said we had too many guards/would waive the best ones weeks ago

>>151477041
Sundays? Uma Musume, Alma-chan and the dorkpire show.
>b-but One Piss
No.
>b-but One Punch M-
No.
Shonenshit is gay.
Fuck Chris Paul.

>>151479485
>is just pseudo-basketball philosophy for Jews & BAWB’s that can’t actually hoop.
What does that have to do with whether the analysis is apt?

>Nets waive Kobe Bufkin, Fanbo Zeng
What is Marks even doing?

>>151478369
>whataboutism

>>151477041
FMAB

>>151480101
marks is a kiwi so he doesn't know ball sorry

>>151479309
Because Lukeks and ChokBiches having been talking shit for 2 years straight trying to discredit him, and it's gotten worse now that Lakers fans have latched onto him. Now they're trying to change the narrative that the 2024 Mavs team was somehow full of bums, despite having Kyrie and the best interior defense in the league, and that Luka had no help last season even with LeBron fucking James and Austin Reaves.

>>151479309
You know why

>>151480816
Luka and Jokic will never have “enough help” to their fans

>>151480849
I hope they gut their depth trading for an all-star or all-nba teamate like Gianmickey did so they can have no more excuses when they choke

>>151480816
Why wouldn't Luka fans discredit him when he crushed them in '24?

>>151481109
Because Luka himself was completely outplayed by Shai that series
>32-8-7 vs 24-10-8

And dont give any bullshit about Luka having a hurt bussy when he immediately went back to playing well against the Wolves.

>>151481382
And who won?

>>151481452
Shai won a ring.

Lucy won an Ozempic sponsorship.

>>151481475
Luka had Alex len as a center

SGA had more FTA in the first two games of the WCF than Steph had in the ENTIRE playoffs.

>>151469941
>“Overrated” offense only guard that isn’t respected by their original team - Cam Thomas/Tyrese Haliburton
u must be retarded

>>151481912
SGA= GOATLIKE
MJ was equally efficient at getting free throws, how do you think he averaged 30 every season? Curry is just too shit and flawed of a player that he only needed 5.1 and 6.3 free throws averaged in both his 2016 and 2021 seasons, while the majority of his shot diet consisted of the hardest lowest raw percentage shot, hence the 3 point distinction is necessarily to reward the skill required to take such shots.

Despite that it seems that the good old fashioned free throws + basic mid range and up and under layups are so effective that you can average 30 without even exceptional effiency

>>151480025
I honestly think 25 mil is a fair price for Braun, but Nuggets probably got PTSD from MPJ

>>151478369
>What’s Herro’s peak?
he got pretty high here

>Embiid per 36 in 2025
28.3 pts, 9.7 rebs, 5.3 assists, 58% TS

>Tatum per 36 in 2025
26.5 pts, 8.5 rebs, 5.9 assists, 58% TS

Joel wasn't good at all last year, but it's funny that the ass version with a cardboard knee puts up better numbers than a guy voted All NBA

>>151482713
The difference is Jordan drew fouls because it was impossible to prevent him from getting legit shot attempts off. SGay draws fouls by sticking his off arm into defenders and falling down.

48 hours until the return of NBA on NBC

>>151484647
No. I watched the 1998 finals. Jordan shot like ass, but when all else fails he would literally just charge to the rim with like 3 guys under and draw fouls. It just didnt look as much like foul baiting because he was headstrong about it.

If silver diesnt rig it fir the kings there will be another 9/11

https://youtube.com/shorts/Zjqx-_rzF5o
This is why Curry doesnt have too many outstanding records or legacy stats btw. Good or Bad thing? For better or worse Kerr cares more about winning than those possible legacy stats.

>>151484647
In the words of Magic Johnson
>"You can't get to close to Michael or it's a foul"
And that was before the second threepeat where his whistle got even better

>>151486819
>And that was before the second threepeat where his whistle got even better
Technically just factually speaking he averaged an insane amount of fouls earlier, even before his first 3 peat, but definitely more in his first 3 peat than second.

To be fair I for some reason didnt look at his playoff numbers, so its possible theres an actual increase there.

>>151487067
He averaged more because he drove more during the first threepeat. His actual whistle was better later on when the league was treating him like demigod and he started learning all the refs names every game

nigga...what the fuck???? who the fuck was letting this nigga jordan chuck up 31, 28, and 26 shots between 22 and 24 years old? The later years are dumb too, but nigga was already being called black jesus by then so of course hed get to chuck.

i seriously do not understand this player. i was thinking about something lately, and knowing how much old heads LOVE wilt chamberlain, I sometimes wonder if the reason they worship jordan, is because he was able to play that sort of same selfish, flashy play where he could chuck the ball almost as much as he wants...but WIN despite it.

Like dude, Im trying to think of how many fucking players could get away with this volume of chucking other than Lebron, but also Lebron has entire teams built SOLELY for him to have the ball as much as possible, and somehow still contributes more im playmaking. And even then there is only ONE time Lebron ever shot above 25 shots in the playoffs and it was in 2015, one of his most inefficient years ever where Wardell Stephen Curry deserverdly smoked him and proved that team basketball beats hog basketball.

Haliburtons Achilles exploding tainted the OKC ring forever

>>151487330
>He averaged more because he drove more during the first threepeat. His actual whistle was better later on
Nah, the facts bare out anyway, he averaged 10 free throws twice in the 2nd 3 peat. I mean he was always handed free throws like crazy anyway so whatever.

>>151479309
this is an sgafag? he's older than luka

If barely 18 year olds can come into the NBA and be some of the best defenders in the league, why do BABBs value it so much? KD was right when he said basketball = buckets

The league should only be 10 teams

>>151487625
I think defense is the only think Oldheads and Bums can easily replicate and actually relatively well, so attacking defense is like attacking their only skill

Everybody here complains about the NBA and Adam Silver. If YOU were the NBA Commissioner, what would you do to make the NBA better?

>>151487732
Yeah, they genuinely don't understand the offensive changes of the past 10 years

>>151487737
I'd make the dunk contest a 2 hour event between giannis, lebron, ja, wemby, zion, etc all the god players and make the reward $40m out of the owners pockets.

>>151487737
I would make a special platform above the court where half naked cheerleaders can dance during the game

>>151482713
>>151486819
>>151487330
it still kinda makes you think, why is this fanbaseless literal who from bumfuck nowhere on a team in bumfuck nowhere getting a better whistle than mj in the 90s carrying the nba?

>>151487737
Offensive and Defensive MVP of the All Star game gets guaranteed home court advantage for their team if they make he playoffs.

>>151488613
wtf kind of weirdly specific ass stat is "free throw per point" what? what does that mean are you talking about the percentage of their points that were freethrows? because there are obviously problems with that, one being that shai is a better free throw shooter than jorgod, and im a shai hater till he averages 30 with less than 8 free throws averaged.

lebron jersey in some obscure manga

>>151474807
>>151476708
>>151479289
YouTube basketball talk rotted your brain, like holy shit

>>151488937
I'm right. Your wrong. Simple. Already demolished you with the indepth analysis i posted building off thinking basketball.

>>151479309
What does Shai have to do with Lukek's miniscule resume. LeBum, Jorgambler and many other greats had something by 27.

>>151488804
>weirdly specific ass stat
rough way to normalize for pace and having the ball, just "how reliant were they on freethrows to get their points"
you can look at it this way if you want the volume of fta they're given and it's about the same. shai's 2025 postseason is among jordan's highest, and his 2022-2023 fta volume was higher than anything in jordan's career

>>151488868
Will the lakers retire LeGoat's jersey and give him a statue for one measly *ring

How is age relevant if sga was in the same position prior to June

>>151488613
>>151489141
Keep in mind SGA shoots the team's technical fouls as well, which inflates his numbers a bit

>season 2 days from starting
>/nba/ still ded

>>151487712
Lakers
Knicks
Celtics
Bulls
Heat
Warriors
Mavs
Suns
Rockets
Sixers

>>151489031
Nah dude you base your opinions off of other people’s opinions. Which is essentially based on efficiency and stats. Why don’t you think for yourself, instead of just taking shelter underneath lowly YouTuber opinions and self-promoted propaganda?

Real basketball philosophy is understanding systems & actions. Movements, defensive scheme and beyond. The spiritual elements. It’s not a fucking math equation.

>>151489475
stats don't go back that far to take off jordan's, but in 2022-2023 sga shot 37 technical fta, take those off he was shooting 0.51 fta/fga which is higher than anything jordan ever did
take them away for his tenure on okc and you get 2921 fta/7156 fga=0.41, higher than any individual jordan 90s season

>>151489876
>you base your opinions off other people opinions.
>like the opinion of the nba commissioner for whether the top seed of the conference should be able to fraud against the bottom 8 (or even worse: playin team which arguably makes it even easier) and get homecourt advantage
lol look how stupid you sound. no logic whatsoever.

>>151489644
the only thing to get excited about in october is seeing young teams. League pass legends finna cook

>>151489910
Interesting stats if true. I did not know about this, this is really good context to explain to people who say stuff like "SGA's free throw averages arent even that out of line compared to past stars" why theyre retarded. But this is too tantalizing that it could be confirmation bias for me atleast, since I dont know how statistically valid it is to evaluate free throws like this. But ill keep it in my back pocket. We'll see this season how much of a free throw merchant fraud, or actual good basketball player SGA is.

snowbunnies have been keeping haliburton alive

My Lakies will make noise this year

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>>151490201
>>151490201
>>151490201

I know i said i'll never make new threads again, but seeing no one is making it, might as well make one

>>151490053
https://www.pbpstats.com/totals/nba/player
it's a cool site to look into things
sga shot the most technical fts in flat numbers, but as a percentage it's not unique. 5% of his fta were techs which is more than e.g. ant (3%), trae and harden and brunson (4%), the same as booker and lavine and maxey, and less than curry and tatum and cade (6%), kyrie and herro (8%), and haliburton (12%)
also even if he gets a ton of technical fta, it's not like anyone's taking that the made ones off his ppg stats for comparisons or the history books

>>151480816
>LeBron James
>help

That fucking bum is the opposite of “help”