They won.

The Imperium worships the emperor.
Every imperium planet is Monarchia.
They got their revenge against the Emperor.
The word bearers got the emperor back for Monarchia.

And dont forget: Most of their named characters from the heresy era are still alive, including Lorgar, while pretty much every HH loyalist marine is long dead.

>>95767786 (OP)
>>95767791
You have two generals to discuss this in.

>>95767786 (OP)
Fuckin luv me Word-Bearers
'ate the false Emperor
Simple as

>>95767856
Hell ya brother

>>95767786 (OP)
You missed the general.

>>95767786 (OP)
but are they happy?

>>95767856
Excellent paint job truly honors the Dark Gods
>>95767871
Jesus Christ thin your paints. Would be turned into a Chaos Spawn

>>95768220
My paints are thin, I like it rugged.

>>95767786 (OP)
I wonder what text that is on his armour?
What are the sacred books of the Word Bearers?
The Parables of Lorgar or something?

>>95767805
>>95767941
Janny harder, faggot.

God I love Erebus, what a hero

>>95767786 (OP)
The Word Bearers succeeded in making Imperium worship the Emperor, but only inadvertently through changing their motivation to worshipping Chaos and hating the Emperor. So they can't even enjoy their moral victory because they want Chaos to win now

They are doomed to eternal dissatisfaction dut to being fanatical contrarians

>>95767805
/tg/ is the warhammer board

>>95768969
You are correct.

>>95767786 (OP)
>They won.
That's like saying Pete Best won because the Beatles made it big.

>>95768989
Wrong retard
>>95768969
>So they can't even enjoy their moral victory because they want Chaos to win now
Wrong, they enjoy their moral victory, they also understand that chaos wants perpetual war and strife, so maintaining the Imperium in a decrepit state is how they want it. They only started to act once Guilliman returned.

You act as though the imperium is in a state that was "winning" for the last 10k years. The Simperium was so pathetic that Lorgar stayed in the warp and kek'd for 10k years because there wasn't anything left to do. poking the rotting corpse every now and then was just to pass the time.

>>95767786 (OP)
Yes. Congratulations anon, you identified the most basic narrative element involving the irony of the Imperium. I fucking hate people that are new to the setting acting like they just discovered some profound narrative element that no one else has ever discovered or discussed before. We've all know this shit for 30 years anon, try to catch up.

>>95769522
I know your hobby store is afraid to trigger you but I'm telling you to dilate because acting like a sassy tranny makes you look retarded.

>>95768220
>Criticizes other people's paint jobs
>Doesn't post his own models

Commenting on other people's paint jobs, whether the comments are positive or negative, without posting your own models should be an automatic 3 day ban.

>>95767805
>>95767941
>advocating for the use of generals
wtf is this reddit newfaggotry

>>95769540
Advocating for generals is ok when it comes to 40k. Without those containment threads, 40k fags would be all over this board nothing else would ever be discussed.

>>95768969
>>95769480
They also believe the Emperor is a false god anyway, so they lose twice as hard.

>>95771565
The Emperor hated monarchia for what it stood for so much he nuked it from orbit and told lorgar he'd kill him for being worshipped.

Lorgar got him back by making every imperium planet (especially Terra) into Monarchia, making every imperium citizen prey / worship the emperor and making the emperor incapable of doing anything to stop it as his empire of reasoning and enlightenment degenerated into dogma and faith.

Not sure how the Word Bearers "lost" because the emperor is "alive". In this instance, they basically tied The Emperor to a chair and NTR'd him for 10k years. That's like an infinite win state. death is one thing, but keeping him semi alive while his citizens bleed for him satisfies the dark gods more.

>>95767786 (OP)
>won
>still buttfuckingly seething mad the emperor isn’t dead
>muh greater plan
ok bro
daily reminder that if these faggots really won the dark king would’ve ascended and took a fat shit on the big four
>muh nuhlore
Still buttfuckingly seething mad very in character

>>95771807
got any example of Lorgar being mad? or is that just speculation.

>>95771807
nulore has Erebus and lorgar talking about how Horus is falling apart and scheming to have abandon replace him
They're happy regardless of how the heresy ends
why are you bringing up nulore if you haven't read it

>>95773715
Because Imperium fags want 2D villains lol

>>95767786 (OP)
40k is secretly the story of Lorgar's fall and redemption character-arc with a subtext about the reconciliation of a son to his father as they both become what the other always hoped they'd be though not in the way or along the trajectory they expected.
It's all very literary and human-condition-pilled you see.

>>95767786 (OP)
The WB had no fucking idea of what was going to happen with the Imperial Cult, and Lorgar even tried to stop it when he discovered that it was becoming widespread during the HH.
Source: pic related and other WB stories.

If anything, he got played into becoming a willing Judas by an Emperor secretly needing that to become the Jesus God Emperor that humanity needed

>>95767786 (OP)
Nope, they lost.
They changed their bet form team Emperor is a God to team Chaos and now Lorgar is super salty that Emperor is worshiped as God.
Imagine betting your money that team A will win, but later switching bet that team B will win, then team A win the game. You lost by swithcing sides and so did Word Bearers.
They are currently strongest anti Imperial Cult chaos marine legion/warband and still buttmad that Emperor and not Chaos Gods are default religion of humanity.

>>95767786 (OP)
Damn bro, what an original thought that NO ONE EVER IN THE HISTORY OF FORDEEKAY has ever had before!

>>95768986
It explicitly and definitively isn't. We've all seen the /j/ leaks stating as much by now.

>>95776132
They didn't understood they were being tested at Monarchia. Why the Emperor went all full Old Testament God on them.

>>95771720
Well simply put, once lorgar was corrupted he was through with the emperor. He stopped believing him and started believing in chaos. He lost because now he was a servant of those who opposed his father, and his father thanks to his teachings turned into an all powerful archgod. By the 42nd millennium i believe the emperor is way past caring about being worshipped, he's barely sentient at all and constantly uses his powers to help the imperium, through miracles and living saints and imperial demons being more and more common.

>>95768969
Weird take. They were right twice: Big E is a god. Check. There are gods in the warp. Check. Big E lied about both those things and see how that worked out for him.

>>95768986
based

>>95776181
Well, they didn't keep their faith, started worshiping false idols and now are stuck in space hell worshiping space satan. They lost, and now are salty that Emperor is worshiped as God.

>>95767786 (OP)
>They wo
Yeah, yeah, whatever, preach brother. But how do they poop tho?

>>95769522
30 years ago the Imperial Cult was still said to go back to the Great Crusade the Word Bearers were being censured in Index Astartes for being too slow - spending more time building Cathedrals than conquering worlds. But not for the building of Cathedrals in and of itself.
But you'd be correct if you said 29 years.

>>95775969
It true that this wasn't his intention, but the suffering of the Emperor is very ironic. Although this enrages Lorgar, it's still a unbelievable win for them.

I'm going to listen to this btw. Thanks for the rec.

>>95776132
The imperial cult isn't exactly winning. Chaos wants perpetual war and suffering. The Imperium has been a stagnant, zealous institution for 10,000 years that stands as a monument to the Emperor's failure.

>>95776163
seethe

>>95769522
>>95776163
Sounds like you're mad OP knew this before you actually.

>>95767786 (OP)
>The Imperium worships the emperor.
After they decided it was no longer cool. They tried to stop it from happening. Uniquely among all of humankind, they fought on both sides of this theological conflict and somehow lost both times.

>>95776751
WB want humanity to worship chaos, humanity worship Emperor instead. Imperial Cult want to worship Emperor and fight heretics, mutants and alien, Imperium is doing just that.
WB fucking lost and are super salty about creation of Imperial Cult, Lorgar was super salty about it during heresy, he was also buttmad about Horus not fully drinking chaos kool aid, but instead using chaos "as a tool", to a point where he tried to overthrow Horus. After heresy Lorgar just locked himself in his room and refused to leave or shower for 10k years.
Now there is some bird obsessed faggot who caw cawing into his ears.
Lorgar just can't stop losing.

>>95771720
They NTR'd themselves. They wanted to worship the Emperor and now they're stuck taking Chaos dick while the whole Imperium gets to worship big daddy E, and he's hitting their G(od) spot every time.

>>95767786 (OP)
difference is some Imperials genuinely worship the Emperor and not themselves through the Emperor

>>95767786 (OP)
>the only undivided chaos legion that actually worships chaos

>be lorgar
>after being bitchslapped by horus, you lock yourself in your basement in your fortress of inceltude for the next 10k years
>still fully convinced you made the right choice in venerating some amorphous tumor in the sky
>someone suddenly is trashing your front yard
>come out for the first time since you set foot on sicarius
>you're a golden 4meters tall demigod of of war, nothing scares you
>except corvus fucking corax in demon form
>gives you such an ass whopping that basically sends you back to the basement crying
>tfw you realize your enemies are stronger than ever and your dogmatic teachings turned humanity into a god factory
>which now serve an emperor so powerful nurgle himself cried in his shed as he burned his garden to ash
>yfw you realize leman russ is still out there
>lock the basement and throw the key

>>95777106
>you're a golden 4meters tall demigod of of war, nothing scares you
after this line it somehow became a fanfic

>>95777106
Ya bro only took 10,000 years of being blown the fuck out to think you have a chance of improving things.

>>95776751
In a great irony, the Imperium was it's greatest enemy. The Emperor's systematic extermination of all religions, ideologies, and even alternate life paths had locked humanity into having no alternative to the cult but Chaos. That's why most renegades default to Chaos: there's no Communism, no Pantheism, no Polytheistic Pantheon, Unitologist bullshit, Socratic method, or even a loose understanding of a Democratic system to serve as an alternative. Nothing but the boot of the Imperium or the blood-soaked madness of Chaos.

>>95779074
Chaos is default ideology because unlike other chaos have daemons that actually talk to you, manifest before you and give you power.
Worship of some local deities will always end up in worshiping chaos because chaos daemons are there to answer your prayers. It's not Imperium's fault other religions and ideologies don't have anything going for them beside empty words.

>>95768969
>So they can't even enjoy their moral victory because they want Chaos to win now.

Chaos has won.
If Horus had killed off the big E then most of the galaxy would have burnt around him. They would grow the power of the Chaos god for a time but then just like the War in Haven the aftermath would starve them.

The Current state of 40k is perfect for Chaos.
The Bearers of the Word made this perfect mess of an existence possible.

They must be so bitter as they rebeled the imperium only for it to follow their teachings. Are they really the winners?

>>95784294
They do have fun quoting the scriptures back to them. So they seem to be having a good time.
Iron Warriors are what you need if you want bitter.

>>95767805
And you have all 400 pounds of your ass to blow it out of.

>>95784294
>Son decorates a room with a speaker Playing christian rock as a gift to his dad
>Dad is so fucking furious he trashes the room and tells the son if he ever hears christian rock again he'll kill him
>Son rebels and listens to heavy metal
>Corrupts half his brothers into being hard into heavy metal
>The sons best the shit out of their dad and then fuck off and move out
>For 10 straight years the father has been confined to his bed listening to Christian rock and unable to reach for the remote to change the song

Seems like a solid win to me

>>95784444
I'm witnessing those quads

>>95782435
Keep telling yourself that, Lorgar. Keep telling yourself that.

>>95767786 (OP)
>Tfw you realize that, actually, at no point did any of them have the actual truth.
>They briefly glimpsed it on their warp Pilgrimage, but then they just wrote comfortable narratives and called them 'Gods' and 'Daemons' because reality was hard and scary and Gods and Devils were easy and familiar and understood.
>But now the only thing relevant is the Lie. The Lie has grown so much so that it's influenced the powers that inspired it, and eclipsed the Truth, fully hiding the power that the Truth would bring, and that the galaxy would need to be greater than it was yesterday.


Word Bearers are great villains.
They seem over the top evil, like Saturday morning cartoon villains. But then you get past the edge and all that and realize, no, no, they are actually, genuinely, evil, villainous people who ruined everything for everyone, but act with just enough of a veneer of righteousness to seem perverse.

Everything was Lorgar's long con into turning the Emperor into the god he believed him to be
He couldn't be the Emperor's angel, so he became the Emperor's devil to force the issue

>>95779074
That's total fucking bullshit though.

>>95785490
truly the Judas of mankind

>>95785756
You know it's true, Mabus. You locked the galaxy into a never-ending cycle of decline that feeds the Chaos Gods like an all you can eat McDonalds buffet in Vegas. You done fucked up, like your son Lorgar. Now if you gave a certain someone some credit and gave his legion decent jobs then this wouldn't have happened but NOOOO.

>>95784294
I'm sure they aren't bitter since they still consider the Emperor a god, a shitty one that doesn't deserve shit, but a god nonetheless.

>>95771720
>Lorgar got him back by making every imperium planet (especially Terra) into Monarchia, making every imperium citizen prey / worship the emperor and making the emperor incapable of doing anything to stop it as his empire of reasoning and enlightenment degenerated into dogma and faith.
Lorgar was trying to do the exact opposite when all that happened tho, he's the ultimate failure

>>95787063
It really depends on how Lorgar really take things.
If he's salty about the Emperor being worshiped as a god then yeah, he's the biggest loser since he's responsible of it.
But if he has some sense of irony and humor, he's the biggest winner. Not only he got proved right about the Emperor being a god and the Imperial Truth idiology he despised got forgotten, but the current galaxy is a paradise for his current gods.

>>95787206
Lorgar might be bitter, but Kor Phaeron and especially Erebus are pretty happy about how everything turned out.

>>95768851
This, fuck Lorgar, Erebus is the true warhammer main character.

Dumb question, how feasible would it be to have Loyalist World Eaters? I think their HH paint scheme is great and wanna use it.

>>95796287
>>95794216
mixed up Word Bearers/World Eaters AGAIN, sorry.
Loyalist WE have a fandom but most dance around whether or not they're still stuck with the nails.

>>95794216
Why not just use their color scheme and have them be [Unknown] successors or some close-enough successor like Blood Angels (black rage = beserking) or White Scars (fast and choppy) like in the good old days? Have an ounce of imagination, anon.

Does GW really need to spell it out for you any more blatantly than they did with Sons of the Phoenix before you get it through your slow, HH-rotted brain?

>>95794216
>>95796301
You can do anything you fuckin want man, the setting is your oyster.

The Emperor acting like a screeching autist over religion is one of his worst failures. He should have trusted in his Legions to be themselves, who fucking cares if the WBs were slow, they produced wonderful planets that could have stood for many eons as pillars of stability supporting all the others. It’s crazy the that the Emperor couldn’t see this.

>>95797742
That sounds like a really dangerous and irresponsible idea. What would the other Primarchs think about Lorgar being openly allowed to shirk his duties and violate the Imperial Truth? It may have led to an even worse Heresy War.

>>95796301
>>95796717
/mydudes/ won't have nails, that would be kinda the beginning of the split and running away
>>95796382
I just think the World Eaters as is are wasted potential I want to expand in my mind. The stupid nail thing is beyond retarded in my opinion.

>>95801084
>>95796382
someone, somewhere might have found a cache of heresy era geneseed and they made a new chapter with it. Turns out it was WE seed. No nails involved, officially they are UM successors, like so many others.

>>95767805
>what a random thread that could be in a general
>uhhh Janny! Janny! There’s an issue over here uhh JANNY!
Imagine being such a faggot you backseat Janny

>>95767856
>Greetings loyal Imperial citizens, have you heard the good word of our lords and saviours the gods of chaos

>>95801084
>I just think the World Eaters as is are wasted potential I want to expand in my mind.
Okay? Then go for it. Officially they're some other chapter that fits your playstyle, but secretly they're WEaters. EZPZ.

>>95776176
There is nothing you can ever say or do that will change the fact that /tg/ came from Warhammer Wednesdays. EVER. Get over it.

>>95776213
The Emperor is not a god, worship or lack thereof does not change what a god is. Chaos has no gods, there are simply some psychic parasites that are stronger than others. There are no gods at all.

>>95806086
How many times must this lesson be taught, Fabius?

>>95782535
Gav Thrope said Chaos wants to kill the Emperor to devour the galaxy and while this would weaken them, Chaos is inherent self-destructive (thus the existence of Malice).
Also, that was before AoS confirmed that the Chaos Gods are multi-universal. They don't even NEED 40k.

>>95806078
Coping, seething, dilating.

>>95797742
The Black Library authors are insidious heretics and Chaos-worshipers churning out vile propaganda designed to make us hate the Emprah. Hence the name.

>>95767805
I don't post on generals
They kill the point of a imageboard

>>95782435
But that's absolute nonsense.
>Chaos is default ideology because unlike other chaos have daemons that actually talk to you, manifest before you and give you power.
Demons feed off negative emotion which the Imperium generates through sheer oppression, brutality, and fear. They need the Imperium to exist as the Imperials need the Demons to justify their social order.
>Worship of some local deities will always end up in worshiping chaos because chaos daemons are there to answer your prayers.
Tauva, the Eldar pantheon, shit even Fantasy had Ulric and Ursun. Then there's Fenris and Corax . Not all entities are malicious in the warp despite the best efforts of the Imperium.
>It's not Imperium's fault other religions and ideologies don't have anything going for them beside empty words.
Communism, Republicanism, Fascism are secular and operate independently of the existence of the supernatural. They simply do not need a god to function, only a society. While it's true Andy H. and Stalin had their own cults of personality (like a certain mummy on a golden toilet), by and large ideologies are capable of existing inspite of a supposed deity ruling the world. The Founding Fathers would even open their debates not with the word 'men' but 'intelligent beings' which makes Big E's ruthless purge of republicanism look downright questionable at best.

>>95796382
I like how retards look at literal copy paste of Black Templars that is NOTHING at all like EC and conclude it's not an IF succesor. Try turning brain on, by your imbecile (not)logic Crimson Fists are Night Lord successor because they have dark blue armor, eh?

>>95814000
You know, many religions simply do not fit the mold of Chaos either. Buddhism, for instance, in it's purest form lacks deities to worship and is more akin to a philosophy where you're trying to break the cycle of rebirth. Then there's Gnosticism which is about escaping the mortal plane as it's a prison. Which is in a way, somehow even worse than Big E getting rid of democracy because his fedora tipping ass would get voted out of power. All the ideologies were eliminated so Big E could cement his grip on power:
>Communism: threatens Emprah.
>Fascism: also threatens Emprah.
And those two are the ironic ones. It just gets worse and worse:
>Syndicalism: empowers labor unions instead of the Mechanicians which... Threatens the local Tech priest's control over resource distribution.
>Anarchism: Big E. won't be able to project power anymore as the citizenry will have no reason to obey him.
>Capitalism: Big E. takes a backseat to the megacorps and mindless consumerism that Big E. wouldn't have any say over.
>Libertarianism: same problem as anarchism.
>Democracy: too... UNSTABLE compared to the totally enlightened high lords of Terra... And the Emprah. You wouldn't want your brave, noble, shiny Emperor get voted out of power now would you?
And then it gets even worse as it can be argued that the Emperor is doing all this just so he's loved by everyone. Rival political figures would get in the way of that.

>>95814000
>They need the Imperium to exist as the Imperials need the Demons to justify their social order.
No, daemons just need life to feed from, they can exist and manifest with or without Imperium no problem. On other hand Imperium don't need daemons to justify anything, in mind of 99,9% there is no such thing as daemons, Imperium is actively suppressing any knowledge of daemons and chaos existence. They are not justification of social order or anything outside of purges if you saw one.
>Tauva, the Eldar pantheon, shit even Fantasy had Ulric and Ursun
So Tau god from end of M41, dead ELDAR gods and gods that don't exist in 40k. Great examples. Spirits of Fenris are special example for special planet of most special marine chapter and only applies to 1 out of million Imperial worlds, and even then entire Fenris mythos is based upon worship of Emperor as allfather.
>Communism, Republicanism, Fascism are secular and operate independently of the existence of the supernatural
And have no protection from supernatural and in the end get hijacked by supernatural, because supernatural can invade your dreams, promise you stuff and set you on path of chaos worship. Even your example of Tauva proves point where non religious ideology of species with weak warp presence got turned into supernatural stuff.

>>95777106
Is Corax showing up in that one short story and then getting plebbit memed his ony accomplishment?

>>95818830
>No, daemons just need life to feed from, they can exist and manifest with or without Imperium no problem.
That's been bullshit since old RT. It's been openly stated that they need emotions to feed from and, without mortals, they'd starve as they're extensions of their god... And the Chaos Gods are not deities, more akin to parasites.
>in mind of 99,9% there is no such thing as daemons, Imperium is actively suppressing any knowledge of daemons and chaos existence.
Really bro? They kill people over religious shit all the time. Did you ignore the HERESY meme that popularized the game?
>They are not justification of social order or anything outside of purges if you saw one.
But they are. The Imperial Navy scours planets to prevent them from turning into Daemon worlds all the fucking time.
>So Tau god from end of M41
Who exists.
>dead ELDAR gods
Who existed and some, in the case of Cegorach, still do. Cry more Lorgar.
>gods that don't exist in 40k.
The warp in WF and the warp in 40k are functionally the same. Hell, wizards and psykers have the same potential to summon a daemon if they use one of their abilities.
>even then entire Fenris mythos is based upon worship of Emperor as allfather.
But that predates the coming of Emps and with the spirit wolf shit, shows that this is... Again, nonsense. Compliant nonsense but nonsense none the less. The Rogue Trader game even has a space wolf commit blatant heresy by suggesting that the Emperor was a man.
>And have no protection from supernatural and in the end get hijacked by supernatural
Didn't happen to the Tau, Squats, Oretti, and... You know what? Keep crying Lorgar.
>Even your example of Tauva proves point where non religious ideology of species with weak warp presence got turned into supernatural stuff.
You contradicted yourself you idiot.

>>95821752
>It's been openly stated that they need emotions to feed from and, without mortals
And it have nothing to do with Imperium, they need mortals, not Imperium, they fed from, if Imperium is destroyed chaos only have rest of galaxy to feed from
>Really bro? They kill people over religious shit all the time. Did you ignore the HERESY
Yes, Heresy have nothing to do with daemons. Outside of Astartes Chapters and Inquisition almost nobody know that daemons even exist. You can't base your social order on thing that almost nobody know. Imperium don't need daemons.
>But they are. The Imperial Navy scours planets to prevent them from turning into Daemon worlds all the fucking time.
First of Inquisition not Navy, second they don't need daemons, they pure planets before they became daemon world because daemon world is big problem, they don't need daemons, they don't want daemons, they kill every witness of daemon manifestation. Imperial Navy would exist without chaos, Inquisition that have janitor job exist as safeguard against chaos after big civil war caused by chaos. Lords of Terra would be happier if daemons didn't exist, they could focus on xenos and secessionists.
>Who existed and some, in the case of Cegorach, still do
And offered nothing to non Eldar, so still chaos is the answer.
>The warp in WF and the warp in 40k are functionally the same
Then why no Ulric or Sigmar in 40k? Then why daemons need Imperium if they can feed from WHF? Also Slaanesh is imprisoned in AoS and free in 40k.
>The Rogue Trader game even has a space wolf commit blatant heresy by suggesting that the Emperor was a man.
99% of marine chapters worship Emperor as man, there are exeptions like Black Templars, but most marines see him as man. That's fluff since at least 2nd edition and big point of tension between marines and ministorum.
>Didn't happen to the Tau, Squats
Tauva happened and Votann worship supercomputers that have warp reflection strong enough to be visible in warp by psykers.

>>95823105
Warp being the same doesn't mean the same parts of the warp can show up in other places.
What can appear is determined by what is in the material world and only if the conditiones are met in both material worlds you can have Skarbrand or Kairos cross over

>>95823451
Then why Ku'gath had diferent personalities in WHF and 40k? In one he is just typical Nurgle daemon obsessed with creating perfect plague and angry about dwarves.
In 40k he was nurgling that drank Nurgle's most precious plague, became GUO and is sad and depressed because he robbed Grandfather Nurgle of his most potent weapon and is trying to fix it by recreating said plague. So far he is only sad nurgle's daemon.
So how do you explain same guy having completly diferent personality depending what universe he's in.

>>95823105
This isn't Logar. This is Perturabo and the 'tism speaking.

>>95823499
Both versions clearly want to make some super plague, 40k just tells you why.

>>95767871
what red did you use? I love it

>>95820295
Imagine how much better off the Imperium would be if it had a Primarch running things for the past 10,000 years.
Granted, it's Corvus Corax, but surely he'd be better than nothing.

>>95825115
Couple thin coats of Khorne red, then washed
with a really watery coat of Abbadon Black

>>95767786 (OP)
Yes Lorgar is both the most successful loyalist and traitor primarch, achieving everything he wanted and is the default protag of 40k. If BL wasn't full of morons they'd have noticed this but they would only fuck it up

>>95771565
They turned the Emperor into the literal god of the Imperium, dooming him to fill that role with no escape as long as the Imperium exists. The WB won on levels dimwits can't even comprehend

>>95767805
KYS, tranny janny.

>>95826318
>GW paints
:(

>>95830960
I just used what I had

>>95830960
You do know there's range comparison charts out there, right?

>>95832714
Not him but I didn't know that, I'm new to the hobby.

>>95832770
Buy AP Speedpaint Dusk Red. It will look like the red on that marine.

>>95832770
This one should be pretty up to date iirc
https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/paint_range_compatibility_chart
Check out the /wip/ general for lots of good resources

>>95832714
Yes, but GW all paints will get the ":(" no matter what
>>95836422
>AP Speedpaint Dusk Red
It seems good but I only know how to drybrush and I have no plan to learn anything else so I will go with the first khorne red alternative I can find

>>95841113
>babbles like a retard
You have to be 18 to post here, sprout.

>>95785490
Madoka Magica was just a retelling all along.

>>95830960
>>95832770
Just use the eyedropper tool in your browser to compare between paints.

>>95768986
>gets the everliving shit beaten out of him by Corax despite selling his soul for daemon powers
>has to crawl away through a portal while his sons die in doves to cover his retreat
KWAB

When is Lorthar getting a proper model for 40k?

The emperor being a cringe reddit atheist instead of a meglomanical god-man is a cringe retcon, makes the heresy much less interesting, and the emperor less interesting, and everytime I remember the Dawkins thing I laugh irl

>>95767786 (OP)
>another “uh, a-actually we won!” Butthurt Bearers thread
KWAB

>>95848774
The Dawkins thing is completely fucked.

>>95848774
I wish the only reddit aetheist was Fabius. For him its okay, but to repeat the gimmick across a bunch of characters like Biggie Smalls and Turbo Pete is lame

>>95768986
>This is a cancer body

>>95767856
If the creator, first and only Emperor of the Imperium is false, who is the Trve-Emperor?

>>95767786 (OP)
If the Emperor hadn't been fucking retarded, Lorgar would have remained Loyalist and the Word Bearers would currently be the guiding force of the Ecclesiarchy instead of its greatest adversaries.

In suitably ironic 40k style, the Emperor basically guaranteed through his own fedora behavior that instead of having a rational and earnest religious center, the Imperium after his death would become as psychotic and grasping for power as possible, and he guaranteed this by abusing his own son and refusing to acknowledge his son's genuine and earnestly held faith. Atheists BTFO again lmao.

>>95864652
Lorgar.