A Jolly Old Scrap edition

>What is this?
/TG/ DEVELOPED A GAME
IT IS PLAYABLE. IT HAS BEEN PLAYED.
EXPEDITION is a ~1880s era, Jules Verne-inspired retro-futurist, underground blood soaked adventurescape.
It is a Skirmish wargame. Two players with their own expeditions, on a hexgrid map, explore & fight each other for victory and profit.

3 versions of the rules exist, 2 of which have been playtested. The main one is 2e, to be found :
> https://app.mediafire.com/us7vnek39dc6k
as with maps, tokens and lore resources.

Wiki
> https://eadsttcoteg.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

>TL;DR Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LxdaGoBlJRTMuziMDupG5TeeFwNDnsIW2pfaRAcFDgA
>Main Lore Doc, including links to anon-written short stories and additional lore in "Recommended..." section
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bRrxdD1BMLmcMDFeszwqg2Rcjrt8DDo7tjAxoOB6KQ8
>3e Rules Doc (READY FOR MORE PLAYTESTS)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14ZpHhEyUbjt-SCx2xuAd0lyh7Rs4J7rK5kHkljqykhk/
> Unit Spreadsheet - Currently outdated, requires an update
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rcleQtrT4Q0INiBW50-kq2ZXWJ-cjLOeVTLTJg_oX5E
>Unit Design Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n0X89OdMPXJKQGm6kYcOABjhjE4NZER1fvmpDmDX1JA
Kaiser Anon's audiodrama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwfxQxrHe4M
(Many more episodes after, can't post them all, but check them!)

>What can I do?
Shitpost, meme, get comfy. Read over the docs to settle in.
Familiarize yourself with rules and ask for an intro game or participate in playtests. If you are interested in designing a faction for a wargame, this is the place.
Contribute if you have ideas. Give feedback on contributions if you don't.

>TQ 1: Should we look into including an Overwatch/Riposte mechanic in the base game?

>TQ 2 : Replacing Tsardom by Denmark in the upcoming Doggerland Campaign, yay or nay? Also, Denmark mini (MINI, 2~3 profiles at most) faction?

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>>95695218

Did this and started working on Tesla yesterday, will post what I come up with shortly.
I'm thinking of having "can use AP from different models" as a bit of a sub-mechanic to the faction, in part to compensate for how mediocre many of the individual models are. I want to make sure to avoid the whole "rambo" effect Infinity has, so it has to be limited/need you to take steps before working. So I'm thinking both Tesla and the phone specialist could work mostly toward that, Tesla installing wireless power transmitters on mechanical models to allow the AP to be transmitted, while the phone dudes can hand over phones to soldiers to do the same within a limited range (with possibly some rule to have Tesla upgrade those to wireless phones and/or setting up telephone poles to extend the range, dunno...).
He'll probably end up unlocking the Leyden rifles or however we want to do it.
The Strauss stand in I figure we can make him a sort of "diplomat/mercenary" recruitment dude, music is the universal language, Austria sends him to woo Deepfolks (Mu Old Ones really like him too), and he has a bunch of fan/roadies following him around... ?
For the Fisherman I skipped on the Fear, its enough already that he may cause -2 Discipline to Morlocks right from the beginning of the game (especially since he'll be allowed to deploy), -3 starts the Morlock Shaken unless you are getting buffed.

Remember to archive the threads (and add it to the thread list).

>>95816829 (OP)
Dropping by to confirm I'm not dead. Neo Atlantis progress soon, I hope.

>>95818085
Might as well share the incomplete doc.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V_qqB_OQDmaLFjJpN9bYzBRqrOsTkJP594uov74hkV0/edit?usp=sharing
Heavy WIP that's nowhere near done, obviously.

>>95816993
>Agartan fisherman
Dammit, I didn't make it in time.

>>95819249
I can add that piece to the book, there's plenty of space.
> Picrel
What I'm coming up with at the moment. The Leyden Rifle rules posted last thread will be toned down a bit, but should still be a very good (albeit costly) weapon.
The Extraordinary Implications is probably something that will be cloned in other spots as well. Just something to integrate more support for Academics.

>>95816829 (OP)
>Replacing Tsardom by Denmark in the upcoming Doggerland Campaign
Requires clarification.
>Denmark mini (MINI, 2~3 profiles at most) faction?
I have ideas.
>Overwatch/Riposte mechanic
I'm much more inclined toward an Overwatch mechanic than a Riposte one. Melee weapons already have a number of advantages over Ranged ones, and there are a few models that have riposte mechanics as Specials. I think guns without Ammo Feed could use it. Maybe have it be something put on the weapons? All Hyperborean weapons should have it. It could go on the Rapier, which has needed to be changed for a while (we said a while ago sword but with reach; now i'm thinking sword but with 'riposte'). I like the idea but worry it would mess with things too much.
Reminds me that i think Long Bow would benefit greatly from being Grievous with Reload 1, as otherwise i see no reason to take it over the short bow.

>>95818275
>Dropping the whole ancient aliens angle
My brother in Atlas, did you miss all the lore speculation about the Titans being based on real ancient lifeforms (or a singular one, depending on how you look at it), possibly actual aliens who fled Hyperborea and uplifted Atlantis for some reason? I didn't watch your show (and I don't think "yeah its literally just from an anime I like" is a good selling point desu), but its not exactly that outlandish of an angle. It also goes well into the whole Gigantic thing that they are supposedly more Titanic than the Titanics and everyone else is a crypto-Epigean barbarian. Maybe some of them know somethint? Not everything, but enough to piece together that their origin myths might've been much more literal?
Also Perseus is literally Ep*gean-descended, that's a bad dynastic fit for their leader.

>>95816829 (OP)
>TQ 2 : Replacing Tsardom by Denmark in the upcoming Doggerland Campaign, yay or nay? Also, Denmark mini (MINI, 2~3 profiles at most) faction?
I assume that's related to my comment that Tsardom's participation is a bit out there? If it came across as a suggestion to replace them with Denmark, then perhaps I had un ESL momento. No, I just said that a neat lore idea that seemed natural is that Denmark, having been cucked by Britain and Germany, and having close dynastic ties to the Romanovs, would see the Tsardom as their prefered candidate to win in Doggerland and provide them with logistical support.

>>95821186
>I'm much more inclined toward an Overwatch mechanic than a Riposte one.
I was only meaning ranged attacks for now, at least, both for the Riposte and the Overwatch. Riposte would only be the model attacked shooting back, while Overwatch would be any model within Awareness range? Something like that anyways.
In any case, it would probably be the kind of change that would need a long testing window, probably longer than the Armor and Evasion change, but it might also open up a few new routes to mechanically differentiate factions and models...
>>95821657
>No, I just said that a neat lore idea that seemed natural is that Denmark, having been cucked by Britain and Germany, and having close dynastic ties to the Romanovs, would see the Tsardom as their prefered candidate to win in Doggerland and provide them with logistical support.
Its been mentioned to me from a few different folks now so its not only that comment.
>also
Torero now.

>>95821711
>Torero now
Yay, thanks!

>>95822090
Fixed a layer badly ordered and some stuff not erased correctly.

Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8QXbQm2pTA

Kaiser I believe we had a game set up for today (not entirely sure, getting confused, too many set up at the same time), however my apologies I'm not going to be available, something came up last minute.
I don't know if you are still going to be off this week, but if we you, I'll have Friday off, we could reschedule then?

Batrep time!
> Like all truly civilized society *ahem*, the Amazons are committed to providing their younglings free access to higher education.
> However, this also means that they need some form of filter to wash out the ones that won't benefit from higher learning. Taking the class for a field trip, especially in the areas that borders Atlan territory, has proven to be a great way to adjust its size.
> Today, the Amazon Queen, who would probably go insane at the thought of what Epigeans are putting their educators through, decides that 8 students is way too many.
> Atlan hunting parties are always on the lookout for these field trips. In this case, a Warmaster, his pet Gargoyle, 3 bat-mounted Retiraoi and a stupidly large horde of Titanium Miners lay in wait in the Petrified Tree forest that circles around the edge of a desert waste.

>>95823420
> Wary of allowing too much time for the Retiraoi to start doing sneaking, pervy shit, the Queen sends her Sorority forward as quick as possible. They gracefully run into the edge of the Petrified Forest, only to be met by a wall of chained miners. Slavery is a political quagmire to the Amazons, most of the girls fail those questions in their Political Philosophy tests, and so they definitely did not integrate the post-modern hermeneutic of the oppressed into their outlook. The girls starts chucking spears, throwing knives and arrows at the slaves, managing to put one group down and starting to do some damage on the second. The miners themselves miss all their attacks, as expected.
> The bat-mounted warriors and the Warmaster bide their time (the Warmaster grills a bit.)

>>95823474
> In the developing melee, one Apprentess manages to get her 3rd star and is promoted to a Warrioress, while another gets put down by a Retiaroi, which also allows me to promote a second one.
> Another chain gang is killed.
> A Retiaroi attempts to capture the newly promoted warrioress, but fails his three Net attacks in a row. The Warrioresses then massacre him for his trouble.
> The queen charges in, but fails on all her attacks.
> The Grotesque lurks around, as one does.

>>95823545
> The Grotesque charges in in place of the fallen Retiraoi, I believe he hits the Warrioress, at this point she is started to show quite a bit of damage.
> The group engaged with the Retiraoi and in the back fails to do anything to him, even when rolling crits, the warriors Titanium armour deflects all of the Apprentesses shortspears strike. The Queen continue to be useless.
> Finally, the last retiaroi flies in the back of the second Warrioress, and then throws his net, gets a crit, and then proceeds to win the Face-to-Face rolls, gaining the Warrioress as a slave.

>>95823559
> Between the captured Warrioress turning her bow against her sisters, the Warmaster who decides to finally charges in and the miners (I believe one manages to finally do a Graze), the group of Amazons deeper in the Petrified Trees gets wiped out (one does manage to land a Deep wound on the Warmaster's Head).
> This scores me another promotion, who starts unloading into the Retiraoi's back, barely managing to kill him with all of her shot.
> The Queen disengages from the Retiaroi, moving 1 away, then brings her Woolly Rhino back into a charge. The beast finally hits, Deadly triggering automatically, and failing the armour roll.
> With nothing else to commit, the Warmaster sounds the retreat, hoping that a single Amazon Slave Warriorress will fetch enough in the Baron's Markets to make up for the losses of his pet and warriors (miners are not a concern).
End game result (I believe)
- Amazons 87
- Atlan 51
Victory to the Amazons!
(moral victory to atlan anon for pulling off the net-slave mechanic however.)

Hyperborean Bestiary?

>>95820950
>Extraordinary Implication item
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>>95821711
I mean, if people do decide to replace the Tsardom, wouldn't Netherlands make more sense? They are right there and they were an actual empire, if a minor one. Or Sweden-Norway, idk. Both are a stretch, but Denmark is absolutely not in a shape to contest all those great powers. My main concern is that this will turn into an over-enthusiastic bloatfest of half-baked "cool ideas" that will never go anywhere.

>>95824934
Needs some work before being ready, but I can start doing a few profiles for it.
>>95825711
Sincere or not? I don't frequent /v/ gaming boards or sites, I have no clue if SS is considered a good game or not. I didn't know it before starting this thread, but given the number of parallels between the settings I assume others who contributed initially were drawing inspiration from it. If its too much on the nose, I can always change the name.
> Picrel
Arctic biome maps!

>>95826907
Nah, it's a shitpost but I like Sunless Sea/Skies/Fallen London and I don't mind it at all.

>>95816829 (OP)
>Denmark mini (MINI, 2~3 profiles at most) faction?
North Sea Revanchist: Cost 7
Soldier
AP: 2
Movement: 3, Accuracy: 6, Strength: 5, Discipline: 5, Evasion: 5, Labor: 5, Awareness: 4
Health: 2
Armor: 000

Equipment: Bradsburg, Gras, Beaumont, Dagger, Bayonet, Sabre, Dynamite, Rations, First Aid Kit, Material, Lamp

Kalthoff Tuning: Bradsburg has no reload for this model.
>comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghKrbNpqQoY
Like the KoB, they are also running around with literal actual museum pieces (or can be, and they could be reproductions, or whatever: the mechanic came first). Quite fitting seeing as I imagine those guys hate each other (and have nearly the same stats). I don't think the revanchism is serious outside of what they lost in the 60s, and even then, they aren't trying to do it tomorrow (more like 35 years). Their goal now is to stir up sentiment, push for industrialization, strengthen ties to Sweden-Norway, and get by. If anyone has a better name i'm for it. It's sillier than i had in mind at first, and it there is a part of my mind saying that the ChemGren could do double duty as the NSR follower aswell as the Warfe one.
>>95826685
"Replace" is a strong word. I was thinking more, you'd get the option of using the models if playing Tzardom. So, "Involved" or "cooperating". Ultimately, the degree of Danish involvement will depend on if how much people want to play them. Regardless of Doggerland, given the importance of the Iceland annexation i think they ought to have some representation in the game.
>wouldn't Netherlands make more sense?
Not narratively, no. Besides, they already have representation in the game.

N.S.R Commander : Cost 17
Leader, Soldier
AP: 2 LP: 3
Movement: 3, Accuracy: 7, Strength: 5, Discipline: 6, Evasion: 5, Labor: 4, Awareness: 4
Health: L2 B2 H1
Armor: 000
Hatred [British, German]

Equipment: Any Colonial Weapon, Horse, Dynamite, Isolation Jar, Rations, Medkit, Material, Lamp

Assult Commander

Kalthoff Tuning: Bradsburg has no reload for this model.

“Lad alle mennesker vide, hvor tom og værdiløs er kongernes magt”: [3LP] Until the end of the turn, when any model dies as the result of a Charge reduce it’s Leader’s LP by 1; if that Leader has no LP reduce instead it’s AP by 1; if that Leader has no AP it’s owner takes 1 Dread.

Hyper Industrialist

>comments
I feel pretty good about this one. Name is whatever, again. It pisses me off how I couldn’t find the source for the quote or another version of it, but it’s fine.
>NEW HYPERBOREAN WEAPON
Clockwork Hyper Repeater: Cost 3
Range 14, Long -2, Pen 2, Leathality G, Reload 0
HYPERBOREAN, Chem, Duelwielder
*This weapon requires no AP to fire, however it must be fired every turn, and must not be fired more than once a turn.
>comments
Got idea from Kalthoff. Rather than a clockwork gun, a working clock gun. Nice to have another Hyperborean weapon, if nothing else. Real strength comes from using it in conjunction with another gun or melee, or itself. Guess it hovers kind of near you and fires by reading your mind, but only once a minute.

>>95826959
>>95827337
Thank you!

>>95827337
>>95826959
Actually, now that I think about it, Kalthoff Tuning + Assault Commander is potentially broken, or at least I could see it leading to some very frustrating situations, since you drop a Smoke for free every Move you take... Can we reduce it to "Bradsburg have -2 to their reload", so, 1?

Any units waiting to be made or lore waiting to be fleshed out?

>>95832696
> Units
While doing the Apemen, someone had mentioned giving them a giant mechagorilla as their special units. Same with the Gigantism-Afflicted Deepfolk (although the Cyclops more or less play that role as well.)
> Lore
Would you like to do an entry on a specific Entrance? Those would be useful.

>>95832696
I've been wanting an Atlantean Smuggler and/or Atlantean Merc for a while, but not totally sure how they should be. Had idea for a generic Foreign Dignitary / CYOAmbassador, but it's daunting.
>>95832579
Yeah, i can see that. Could get Training or Headshot! for it, then? I guess Quick Shot would be too much at that price point, but it would be my preference. It might not be, -3 Long and only an X is pretty rough. I bet at at 5 Acc it'd be fine, but then your being pushed too much into taking it. I guess the solution is to have the Kalthoff be a Special Weapon so it can be priced appropriately (it would also be easier to check stats, so either way).

Kalthoff Repeater: Cost 1
Range 12, Long -3, Pen 2, Lethality X, Reload 1
Smoke
>comments
Then give the Danes Quick Shot for it. It would be undercoated at 1 if not for it being a Special Weapon, which i think makes it fine.

Red Cross Field Medic: Cost 10
Soldier
AP: 2
Movement: 3, Accuracy: 5, Strength: 5, Discipline: 5, Evasion: 6, Labor: 6, Awareness: 6
Health: 2
Armor: 000
Medic

Loadout: First Aid Kit, Materials
Equipment: Any Colonial Pistol, Dagger, Rations, Alcohol, First Aid Kit, Material, Torch, Lamp,

Oops: If this model dies without Attacking and your opponent is playing a faction which can recruit this model he takes 1 Dread.
>comments
No other mercenary medic, really. The Red Cross came about about now, so it makes sense to have something to do with in in the game. Can be taken by all Colonial factions plus Atlantis and Warfes (Neanderthals tried to be part of it but they had a few too many Oopses).

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Second_Schleswig_War
I don't want too take up image limit too much, but lots of good stuff here.
>>95833511
Another option is to have Kalthoff Tuning give Ammo Feed 5 instead of lowering the reload. I'm not sure how much that would remedy smoke spam, but it would be the simplest solution.

Interesting it's mostly in German.

>>95834806
>Another option is to have Kalthoff Tuning give Ammo Feed 5 instead of lowering the reload. I'm not sure how much that would remedy smoke spam, but it would be the simplest solution.
I don't think that would change much, you'd have at least 3 if not 4 turns of just moving and shooting and dropping smoke all at the same time. The shot is shit, for sure, but its a lot of AP compression. With Reload 1 and Quickshot I think its works better than Ammo 5.
> picrel
Could anyone assist in deciphering these gorm glyphs?
>>95834853
Oh this is a nice one. I'll replace the one downloaded.

>>95835492
The caption describes an Austrian Officer in 'full war readiness', before taking part in a campaign on the march. German humor at it's finest.

>>95827337
>>95827337
>>95833769
I must point out that, more often than not, Discipline 5+ does not work as an "average" but is actually pretty decent. I was also under impression we're giving most non-French colonials Fear: [Deep].

>>95835556
>German humor at it's finest.
Yeah, I guess its own me for expecting more.
>>95835669
> Discipline 5 is average
For Morale mechanics, if its an effective 5 (not boost or debuffs, nothing to replace Shaken with), its definitely solid. But there's also straight up Discipline tests to account for.
>>95835669
>I was also under impression we're giving most non-French colonials Fear: [Deep].
It doesn't have to be that clear cut, if you have a reason to say such and such should have not have it, its fine, however given the stats on the Revanchist, I feel like 7 is a bit cheap for what he'll bring (especially once compounded with the Leader). So adding it on would go some ways into justifying the lost cost.

>>95835764
>But there's also straight up Discipline tests to account for.
Do we have a lot of those?

>>95816829 (OP)
First time commenting on one of these threads.
Are these threads discussing the game or are all of you still creating ideas for the game?

I'm coming in way way way too late to bother reading it all, but It's always peaked my interest. Just not much of a commenter just a lurker

>>95836033
We have an actual playable game and we've been playing it for a while. It's nowhere near finished and we revise it all the time, but it's a 100% legit no bulshit working product.

>>95836033
>Are these threads discussing the game or are all of you still creating ideas for the game?
Both the world of Agartha and the game (2nd edition, basically we just refer as different games different anons have made as "editions") are still in development.
The other games were more limited in scope, 2e is massive (more factions than 40k, most big factions have somewhere between 20 and 30 models, plus a pool of (getting close to) a 100 merc to choose from.
Austria, Satsuma and Hyperborea are left to do (all are started, we are focusing mostly on Austria now), then I want to add on Gorgs as a mini-faction among the "support cast" factions (Olms, Amazons, Gorgs, Apemen, Morlocks, Deepfolks), and we'd be looking at more or less a complete roster.
There's also the NPCs (weird fauna and flora, random criminals, saurs) books which are left to fill out. I need to get back to those.
If you don't want to commit to writing things, posting good art from which we can cut stuff or use as game pieces will also be greatly appreciated.
If you are ever interested in trying out the game, let me know, we can arrange something as well.

>>95836114
>but it's a 100% legit no bulshit working product.
I do wonder if there's still people looking at our batreps and think that its just one sad anon samefagging for 2+ years now...

>>95836125
When it comes to ousider feedback we've only ever gotten either a "wow this looks cool but I'm not reading all that/can't/won't contribute/am vewy vewy shy" or "eeewww wojaks /tg/ is so fucking dead kill yourselves". Nobody has ever given us an in-depth critique of anything.

>>95836142
>"eeewww wojaks /tg/ is so fucking dead kill yourselves"
My favourite variation on that theme was "eww 1880 wtf are you guys thinking???".

>>95836150
That's the pleb filter at work, as far as I'm concerned. Distinct and niche themes that repels illiterates and the actual game development part is why the thread still exists and wasn't hijacked by some autist who wanted to write out his fantasies about nazi futa elves living at the bottom of a piss ocean or whatever.

>>95835669
The stat line for RCFM is the same one as Camp Cook. NSR is the KoB with no armor and +1 Accuracy. The Commander is a modified Warfe, meant to be a middle ground between him and the GS Commander statwise. I agree it's high, but it's common. Serb has 5, ChemGren has 5, Kentuckian has effectively 4 and a half, and those were the models i was balancing against. The average model has pretty decent discipline. Maybe that isn't the best, but it's how it is.
Fear [Deep] would be good, yeah. Just slipped my mind.
>>95835805
A real amount but not a lot, i'd say.
>>95835556
It'd be funny if he was riding that tiny dog, like i thought at first.
>>95836125
I wish i could be that dedicated to anything. I think if i was that anon, i would not be a sad one. One must imagine the samefag happy.

>>95836142
>Nobody has ever given us an in-depth critique of anything.
Because it's perfect.
>>95836033
If you aren't going to contribute to development directly then you don't need to read anything you don't want to. You can just enjoy reading the thread or playing the game.

>>95832696
>Portuguese Sebastianist Preacher.
Grants Bonus against non-catholic units and EXTRA BONUS against british units.

>>95836715
>Because it's perfect.
My only criticism is it needs more demon women, to appeal to me individually.
>>95838599
Are we going to need to implement a religion keyword?

>>95836659
>One must imagine the samefag happy.
Comfy. Also, makes me take account of how working on this project as prevented me from losing yet more hours on stupid /lit/ argument thread.
>>95838683
>is it needs more demon women
Out of the non-colonial factions, unless I'm mistaken, there's only the Apeman and the Olms that don't have a sultry femme fatale.
Although you do have a point the Cave Witch has never teamed up with the Mu Priestess, Tsardom anon, you mentioned you wanted me to build up a Mu list to test the Tsardom's Morale, from a scale of 1 to the Mother Unknown taking her pet Gargoyle for a walk, how much bullshit do you want me to throw at you?
> Mother Unknown
> Dr Moreau
> Devolved Deepfolks (for Primordial Fear)
> Mu Priesstess w/ Headshrinker's Staff
> Imaterii
> Gargoyle
> Terrorsaur (either as a Mount of through the Psysaur)
There's a lot of choice I can stack.
>>95838683
>religion keyword?
Well, at least Keywords are very easy for me to edit in, if we are going to do the Male/Female thing we might as well have one for Religion as well...

>>95823344
Btw, Tsardom anon here. We also discussed doing a game on Friday, but I'm obviously fine giving the spot to Kaiser and doing it later.

>>95840648
>Gargoyle
Grotesque

I don't think sex or religion keywords should be included. It isn't necessary and just tempts keyword bloat. Besides, it's more fun to leave it open, like with the Aeronaught Professor.

>>95840648
>Tsardom anon, you mentioned you wanted me to build up a Mu list to test the Tsardom's Morale, from a scale of 1 to the Mother Unknown taking her pet Gargoyle for a walk, how much bullshit do you want me to throw at you?
Mother seems like a must, otherwise no preference. Just let me have a turn or two.
Also, can you give me thoughts on the Priest beforehand? Another option I had in mind for him is a 1 LP ability for guaranteed -2 Dread (not sure if 1 or 2 AP would work better).

>>95840765
>Also, can you give me thoughts on the Priest beforehand?
If there are no option to unlock him as an Elite, it is fairly mediocre as a Rally option. I think at 10, given he can't score you Silver unless of some very rare circumstance, the added LP ability would be fine, however if its a -2 Dread I'd see it as a 1 LP 2 AP action.
>>95840709
>doing a game on Friday
Wasn't it Thursday afternoon? I'm off Friday and Sunday, so I believe there should be no need to switch anything, unless Kaiser cannot on Sunday?
>>95840765
>Just let me have a turn or two.
Alright, I'll test the Mother and some Devolved Deepfolks, that should be a lot of Dread, but not necessarily too quickly.

>>95840906
Now that I think about it, all I remember is me just vaguely saying I'm fine with 12th or 13th. So Thursday's fine, no prob. I'd prefer something a bit later than the last time, like midnight my time (17:00 your).

>>95841015
>I'd prefer something a bit later than the last time, like midnight my time (17:00 your).
That works perfectly for me! And so Kaiser on the offchance you are available on Friday, let me know.

>>95841055
I'm afraid not. I defer to Tsardom anon.

>>95840648
>Out of the non-colonial factions, unless I'm mistaken, there's only the Apeman and the Olms that don't have a sultry femme fatale.
Now, see, femme fatales we have aplenty. I'm talking demon ladies with horns and tails and such.

>>95842893
Italy if you want it to be cosplay, Hyperborea if you want real demons, Lemurs if you're deranged in real life.

>>95832835
>Giant Mechanical Monkey: (40 Silver)
7 Hex model, Mechanical
AP: 0
Movement: 0
Accuracy: 0
Strength: 8
Discipline: N/A
Labour: 8
Evasion: 0
Awareness: 0

>Armour:
4 Head
5 Body
4 Limbs

>Health:
7 Body
4 Head
3 Limbs

>General Abilities:
-Immune to Morale
-Vantage Point

>Special Abilities:
-Apeshead of Monkeys:
This model may transport up to 6 Friendly Faction Models, These are placed on one
of the hexes occupied by this model. Attacks may target these models individually, but the models transported gain Cover and this model’s Head Location Armour Value, unless the Head Location has been destroyed. Models transported this way may exit through a normal Move Action.

-”Look! It’s Alive!”: (2 LP)
This model gains terror (range 8) for the remainder of the turn.

-Apes Together Strong:
Any number of models adjacent to the Giant Mechanical Monkey makes a Strength or Labour Test (all tests must be the same). For each 2AP spent and successful test taken, this model and models who took the test immediately move 1, up to 3.

>Equipment:
None

>Recruitment:
Apemen unit

>COMMENTARY:
I thought the idea of a giant mecha monkey was somewhat incongruous with the setting, well maybe not that far-fetched but I still prefer this. It’s like a big parade float used to scare off superstitious Morlocks. Surprisingly, it works just as well on Redcoats. The Apeshead rule is a slightly laborious pun on hogshead barrels. High cost is because it’s a rolling fortress even if the armour is lower than it is for some other factions. I like reusing rules.

>>95842893
>I'm talking demon ladies with horns and tails and such.
Dr Moreau's bovine experiment? (I mean Dr Moreau being in the setting alone should satisdy most of the degens out there, he provided us with the OG catgirl)
Some Muans and Lemurians have non-human features, mostly extra arms and blue skin but horns shouldn't be too hard for a good Cultivator to achieve.
Otherwise its a bit too much after the fact. I did think at some point to suggest having an old devil-style of character roaming around the Deep as a joke character that mirrors the Tribunal. Sorta like the devil from Philemon, old cap and goatee with the fork. I feel like its too late to insert it now, but that's about the only path to actual demon ladies (as followers) there is.
>>95843403
This feels very underpowered. Its 40 silver for Cover and 3 light armour (Monkeys are fairly short on Leadership, you won't trigger the Terror more than once) for 6 models that needs to remain stationary in a faction that needs to go really really fast. I don't think it should be a warmachine that dances around the battlefield, but turning it into a crappier Prayer Platform seems like a bad option to me...
I'd want to bake Terror in, give it Gigantic and maybe 1 or 2 Movement (maybe with Heavy Traction?), then at least give it a Melee and possibly a Throw attack like the Titanium Golem?
Maybe we could export a shittier version of the German mech rules (models inside must give AP to the Mech to power it) to replace the pushing rules?

>>95840906
>>95841055
>>95841529
Well, if so, Friday would work a *bit* better for me, same time or other, but I'm fine either way.
>>95840906
I would aslo like your feedback on that rocket monstrocity and a reminder of how scattering works? Is d3 distance and then you do d10 for direction?
Deepfolks are Mercs, so your army is still 50% or more Mu, right?
Still doing 200?

>>95844521
Friday then, I'll come up with a list today. 200.
Scatter distance can be set to a d2, d3 or d6 if its a really inaccurate weapon.
Devolved Deepfolks are indeed a Merc for Mu, so limited at 50% Silver from your Chest.

>>95843986
>I'd want to bake Terror in, give it Gigantic and maybe 1 or 2 Movement (maybe with Heavy Traction?), then at least give it a Melee and possibly a Throw attack like the Titanium Golem?
>Maybe we could export a shittier version of the German mech rules (models inside must give AP to the Mech to power it) to replace the pushing rules?
Works for me.

>>95845650
>Works for me.
Thank you! We could always also have a platform stand as well, or something else like the Deepfolk's tribal structures, for a more static force, getting them to set up outside of deployment zone as well. Its very much after the fact but I think the Tribal Structures works fairly well at showcasing the "support cast" factions for what they are, and that we could add a few to some books. For Morlocks Water spawning is probably good enough, but you could have Apeman & Amazon themed Temples, Olm Mudcastles, Gorg Tool Sheds, etc.
>>95844521
>I would aslo like your feedback on that rocket monstrocity
I very much like the partial reload mechanic in tandem with the Barrage. I would like to give it Heavy Traction in order to limit its fire angle a bit throughout a turn, but I think that on top of Setup and the relatively low damage output of its main attack, if we put it at d3, it might be even a bit overpriced at 30. Fire 1 is very low damage, but it is incredibly useful to have a steady source of Fire rolls if you are facing Atlan. I could see it ending up at ~25.
> picrel
Terrain Affinity [Snow]? Hatred [Brits/Germs]?

>>95849662
>Terrain Affinity [Snow]? Hatred [Brits/Germs]?
That's all fine. Hatred [British] should really be on there, now that i think about it, but for everything else i'm indifferent; if you think it's good, it is. I'd pick Terrain Affinity [Ice] over [Snow], is the only thing, but it's small.

>>95849662
I removed the Setup though. Heavy Traction is fine by me.

>>95850482
>I removed the Setup though. Heavy Traction is fine by me.
Ah, missed it.

>Atlantean Smuggler: (21 Silver)
Diplomat, Specialist, Criminal, Neutral NPC(IF SPAWNED INSTEAD OF RECRUITED)
AP: 2
Movement: 5
Accuracy: 3
Strength: 5
Discipline: 4
Labour: 4
Evasion: 8
Awareness: 7

>Armour:
4 Body (Laden with wares)

>Health:
2 Box

>General Abilities:
-Hide

>Special Abilities:
-The telltale clinking of Multifarious Wares: (1 LP)
On use of this ability, you may purchase Ambrosia, Apples of Melanion, Achlysian Censors, M1871 Beaumonts, and Lefaucheuxs to equip this unit. These items may exceed the carry limit of this model. Each additional item that exceeds the limit decreases evasion by 2 and movement by 1 (so carrying two additional items results in a movement of 3 and evasion of 4) This unit may give carried items to adjacent units.

>Equipment:
SPECIAL*
Also, may purchase shovel, pickaxe, lantern, medkit, rations, material.

>Recruitment:
Atlantean and Libertalian faction Unit. Also potentially an NPC. May not be recruited by expeditions led by Senator Bophades.

>COMMENTARY:
Ambrosia smugglers are forced to consume their entire supply when caught. Needless to say, this encourages extreme speed and stealth in those who pursue the career. This unit can spawn as a neutral NPC. Yes, you can buy something only for your opponent to give it to his own units, the smuggler is really eager to ditch the contraband. I thought about adding Psycho Socialites to the Multifarious Wares rule but that seemed crass.

Dug through some old threads for missing models. This is in now. Sorry for the delay.
I changed the LP ability a bit, paying one LP every time you wanted to use the action itself seemed way too expensive.

>>95852301
maybe dip accuracy to 2 and strength to 4, he is supposed to outrun or outhide anything that would hurt him

Now I need to edit in gasmask on everyone in this.

>>95852332
Women? In my officer's club turned international mercenary organization?!
It's more likely than you think

>>95852350
> That ecstatic look at the thought of seeing more men get blown up by artillery.
Tell me she doesn't belong in the club.
For context, this is Marie-Antoinette Lix, a hero of the January Uprising and Franco-Prussian war. She was given command of a section of snipers as a lieutenant.

I was talking to a friend about this game earlier today, and he suggested that once we finish up with filling 2e out, we should go back, grab all the broken rules and units, and put them back into the game as a different "for fun" edition, kinda like what 1e is supposed to be. i.e modify what we currently have by throwing balance out the window. Thoughts?

>>95852470
UNLIMITED MORLOCKS vs TELEPORTING TRACTION ENGINE does seem like a fun (sort of) match

>>95852422
That man in the bottom right of the picture has the expression of someone discovering something important about their preferences.

>>95852422
>She was given command of a section of snipers as a lieutenant.
Otome VN plot.

>>95852504
I really want to see an imaterii telefragging any unit that gets within melee range of it.

>>95852470
>Thoughts?
We could also look back at all the insane ideas that got set aside back then, like the vertical map that starts completely filled with Walls.
But also, you wouldn't really need to wait for 2e to be "filled out" to start working on that (or anyone, really, I wouldn't put much work toward it myself now but that's because I'm slow enough as it is), I know 2e takes a lot of space and often seems to overlap with the setting itself, but I really never wanted it to be that way. Otherwise if you wait for me to "finish up" 2e to do that (and I'd have fun doing it then, absolutely), it'll be a long while.
> Agartha Naval Warfare game when?
Yeah...
>>95852524
>That man in the bottom right of the picture has the expression of someone discovering something important about their preferences.
Had the same thought. Last few threads have given me a lot of material to update the french tokens, at least.
Btw, Lix was far from the only woman in ranks, or even the only woman officer in the Franco-Prussian war. Marie Favier (picrel), Émilie Schwalm, Mesdames Benit & de Belleray all fought and at least Favier and Schwalm were made officers. A lot of it got covered up after because it was still in bad taste (women fighting in the Révolution was a political statement, in the Franco-Prussian war it was a necessity).
Wasn't just snipers and nurses either, one was a cavalry captain (name redacted, only known by her nickname, Pépita), and at least one women got exempt from a vagrancy charge after the war when she produced papers signed by a general saying she was returning home after having fought on the frontlines as a regular soldier.
Which is all to justify me saying that the frogs letting women in ranks isn't that weird (but still, weird enough by the time for others to notice), which probably didn't even need to be said.
Thank you for reading my blog.

> The Moblot's goodbye to the Mobile
> "You ask what you'll do why waiting for my return, my dear? Well, don't worry, we'll be sending you plenty of work."
Kek, that face.

>>95852962
>>95833769
Do you mind if we remove the Soldier part and make it a nurse?

>>95853042
>Soldier
Copy paste error.
I don't think she should have Cook; steps on Camp Cook's toes. Great choice for the token.

>>95852797
For a good time not a long time, indeed...
>>95854880
Also, there are a fair number of ways for her to get Cook, and after all she is a Field Nurse.
>>95852470
What do you think?

>>95852797
Parisian women in particular are probably more prone to military work than their surface counterparts; a necessity of the Deep, after all. Sort of like how women on the American frontier at least knew how to shoot a gun, even if they didn’t practice it often. It’s a dangerous and lawless place underground, and it’s not a place that permits softness. Everyone must work, everyone must fight, at least until the wilds are tamed and the dark is banished.

I was wondering, if we are adding mercenary units, we could add him:

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Townsend_Ward

Ward was the head of the "Ever Victorious Army", but if the Taiping won the war, I can see him selling his sword across the world, followed by an army of chinese and filipino hired guns.

>>95854880
>steps on Camp Cook's toes. Great choice for the token.
The Cook is much better with his knife however. But sure, anyways, it doesn't really remove the option to use the action, just doesn't make is as easy to pull off.
Also,
> Recruit Amazon Accomplice as a Merc
> Betrothed her to the Field Nurse (nothing says you can't)
> Both get Character
> Take in a French Character List, play the Dread game right
> Both her and the Accomplice gains Quick Shot, Nimble, Deadly and Tough
Secret Sapphist Strat achieved.

>>95857204
>https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Townsend_Ward
> spends your youth getting thrown out of every organization he joins for being too brash and proud.
> Joins one of the most despicable mercenary lord of the time.
> Become famous for being one of the few mercenary commander that respected his troops, regardless of origin, and dealt well with locals.
Pretty good twist when you take his whole life in account, could have been a lot worse.
Character with the Veteran of the Deep trait?

>>95852301
Also, what's the take on putting hide on a neutral NPC? I can see it being janky.

>>95845300
Alright, let's try something a little different:

Skobelev + Horse (41)
Guard x 2 + Berdan II x 2 + Rations x 2 (34)
Line Infantry x 4 + Krnka x 4 + Alcohol x 4 (32)
Sharpshooters x 2 + Berdan II x 2 + Alcohol x 2 (22)
Priest (10)
Sapper + Berdan II + Landmines x 4 (20)
Rocket Tachanka + S&W (32)
Worker x2 + Shovel x2 + 3 Material x2 (8)
199 silver

>>95855566
Parisian women excell at feminine duties such as cooking (Parisian Cocktails), housekeeping (building barricades) and child-rearing (teaching young ones how to shoot).

>>95859566
Works right now through the Stalker rule (usually)
>
Stalker : If the winning roll for control of this model is below or equal to its Evasion and no model has LoS to it within their Awareness range, it immediately Hides, or must continue Hiding.

While we're posting links
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_S%C6%A1n_%C4%90o%C3%B2ng
https://archive.org/details/overneath0000beag/page/256/mode/2up

>>95859919
Btw, I have base TTS now.

>>95859919
Alright, here's mine. I'll update the Tsardom book early tomorrow morning so its up to date for the game.

- Mother Unknown (60)
- Headshrinker's Staff (3)

- New Mu Priestess (15)
- Headshrinker's Staff (3)

- Sinister Dr Moreau (25)
- Headshrinker's Staff (3)

- 10x Devolved Deepfolks (5)
Sword (1)

- 1x Terror Bird Herder (10)
- Sword (1)

- 1x Imaterii (20)
200 Silver

Athens in the 2nd century AD. Engraving by J. Buhlmann, 1886

Some potential inspiration for Atlantis

A humble suggestion for a "Strauss" model.
Austrians caught on early that, strangely enough, everyone in the Deep *really* likes polka-schnell, for some reason. Deutschmeister Carl Michael Ziehrer has arranged to have Edi sent to many of the New Mu City-States in the hope of finally getting rid of the man, only to see him come back with Old Ones and Imaterii fans in tow.
> Skinwalker groupies
> Lemurian Perfect appreciator
> Digested Degenerate groupies (WHY???)
> Apache Cyclop roadies
> Olm Wyrm groupies
> UR-CA band mascot
> Morlock Brood Swarm fans.

>Be anon that made the Morlok Shaman and Disciple
>Take a break for a couple months to do other shit
>Check in to see how my favorite fishy boys are doing
>Fisherman summon unit
>MFW
luv me funny fish boys

>>95861401
We need more dancing units
>Olm Polka Dancer

>>95864131
>Morlok Ritual Dancer
>For each one on the field provide stacking buffs

>>95864131
Kek.
>>95864131
>>95864174
But just to note, you can already do this with the Auxiliaries that have Morlocks in them, just take that trait and War Dance.
> picrel
I noticed while checking up images on the Gebirgsjager the doggo in the picture (there's very few other than the one Kaiser had used). Since Austria deserves to have heavy interaction with mountains, climbing, etc, feels like that unit should be impactful. Therefore, I suggest reusing a similar rule to the USA's Dog Sled, built around the model itself.
The Dog Sled itself I think we should move to the Merc book, available to all Colonials, with the recruitable Dogs as special units restricted to the relevant factions.
My logic for this is that it didn't matter if you were from a country that had easy access to dog sleds or not, if you knew you were going to in an arctic environment, you go out of your way to acquire them (unless you are an idiot).
I'm thinking the same thing for a Steam Barge boat transport as well, just so that not everyone that isn't Brit, Germs, Morlocks and Rakkad get utterly fucked by playing on an eventual water map.

>>95864585
> water maps
Speaking of which, I tried making one using FMS, the scale is a bit wrong for a single game but it could make for a fun Settling campaign, same way me and Atlan Anon did.

2e anon, do you still have means of reaching me on Teams or do you need another link?

>>95864857
I'll need a new link, lets connect first on teamspeak to share it. In about 2 hours, right?

>>95864981
Yeah.

>Old veteran of the Crimean war showing his grandson his old wargear in the family's alloted farmland in Vladiagartsk

2e anon, it's the same link lol. Check teamspeak.

>>95865714
I'll be there in about 5 minutes, you should be able to already log on the game in TTS, server name Agartha, password is your faction, no capital.

>>95852350

No more brother wars.

>>95832835
>Would you like to do an entry on a specific Entrance? Those would be useful.
Has there been much about Stromboli? That one has a lot of potential and I haven't tried my hand at Italy lore yet.

>>95868108
Doc
>The entrance requires sacrifices to remain open and functional. A sophisticated elevator system, powered by the flow of magma has been constructed with the help of the unholy Volcanist arts. The entity in the volcano seems to shield travelers and infrastructure from extreme temperatures, making such proximity to magma non-lethal. The Stromboli route goes straight to the island of Third Sicily.
Wiki
>Italian access to the inner earth is sourced from the Stromboli volcano, off of the western coast of the peninsula. From the mainland, a large bridge extends, over which a rail line, and a paved roadway both proceed towards the summit. Opened in the course of the Abomination Wars, the volcano proceeds downwards through to Pangea. While it would seem insane to descend through an active volcano, the sorceries of the Janaerae cults prevent harm from coming towards travelers to the worlds beneath. While not of a similar nature to the well-engineered conveyor of Gustave Eiffel in Paris, the freight elevator in Stromboli does permit a consistent flow of persons and goods to populate the largest of the Epigean colonies in Pangea, Sicilia Terza.
That's all we got, I think.

>>95871069
I've got to say the bridge part is kind of insane.

>>95871174
>I've got to say the bridge part is kind of insane.
I have to agree, even the Eiffel Tower seems much more reasonable than this.

>>95867082
KEK. Damn burds (although, the more I think about it, the more I should have tried getting the Terror Bird to kill the Mother to get her spawned further ahead. Stupid snow banks defeating deathless eldritch entities... )
Been in and out of the house since right after the game, I'll post a batrep later on tonight when I can finally sit for a minute.
>>95868108
>>95871069
That's all we've got at the moment, yes. And >>95871174 is entirely right, the railway bridge itself is not only insane even by our standards but completely unnecessary.
On the other hand I can't very well say THAT's too much when my own mère-patrie gets a pseudo space-elevator...
But the Eiffel Tower makes (some) sense, this feels a bit... gratuitious? Fastest ferry crossing is from Vibo Valencia, 60km away, and takes a bit under 2 hours.
And, its not like defending it is much of a concern. I don't think anyone would want to test the scenario of trying to seize such a small island on which a Volcano Spirit is known to reside.
> picrel
Something I've been working on in between other profiles is trying to get the Flora "NPC" book in shape. Lots of the NPCs in it didn't really work that well as NPCs, upon feedback from Atlan anon, I'm going to try setting those that make sense as special Terrain hex types (they just replace the one they scatter on), and having only the "real" npc ones like the Shroom Farmer, Wapaq & Ayahusca have a proper NPC profile.
There's quite a few spots on this list left so if you have ideas, either for terrain or for npc, let me know.
> Kaiser anon
Will you be available tomorrow for a game? I will 100% make sure to be there and ready this time. And if yes, I can`t remember what we said we`d play, any idea?

>>95871937
Certainly. Available by 12pm EST. I thought we had planned Germans v. Amazons, but Germans v. Russians might also prove fruitful for testing. I'll let you decide.

>>95871937
>On the other hand I can't very well say THAT's too much when my own mère-patrie gets a pseudo space-elevator...
I mean, the two are very different. The Eiffel Elevator was the only way France had to get to Paris up to that point, so there was no alternative, and the way down is relatively straight forward. A bridge between the italian peninsula and Stromboli not only is insane in terms of tech and efforts needed, but I'm pretty sure boat travels between the mainland and the island are easy, fast and relatively simple.

>>95871937
So I updated some profiles in the Tsardom doc, as I've mentioned after the game, as well as some other stuff:
1. Tachanka - Ammo Feed 6, Movement, Fire 2, Range 14
2. Priest - redone ability, Awareness to 7
3. Baranowsky Gun - Range 16
4. Przhevalsky - Tibet ability now gives Tundra Hills, instead of Moss Hills. Snow could be way too strong.
5. Expeditionary Entourage - Snow, Tundra Hills, Broken Hills affinity instead of Wasteland and regular Hills. Abyss Gazer was extremely situational, so I made a new ability that should work for his support role.
6. Dragoon - Disc to 4, Ability is now *half* his movement (so 3) *after* the attack. With 5 (6) Evasion I don't think it'll be that bad, maybe reconsider a full movement.
7. I've mentioned it before, but all cavalry should be 6 max on Strength and Evasion before you add the horse bonus.
8. Plastuns should be similar enough to base Cossacks minus the horse. I think there must've been some kind of mix up because they have Labour 6 for some reason? At any rate, check the profile, Price should be 14-15 min at this rate.
9. New Parley-based stealth ability for the Okhrana Agent, reworked the stats around it.

>>95872753
Also maybe the Duelist deserves and extra Health box or something, he's supposed to be a special boy.

We might also want to consider a different way of stating Blasting weapons by listing a separate Blast profile. I.e.
>Weapon: Range 16/Long -2/Scatter D3/D6/Pen 3/Lethality G/ Reload 2
>Blast: Range 1/Pen 1/Lethality X
This has the advantage of differentiating cleanly between what happens on direct hit and in the Blast.

>>95872091
>Certainly. Available by 12pm EST.
If its EST I'll be there a bit later on, somewhere around 12:30-13. I'll go for Russians, 200 Silver. Let me know what you have as a list.

Przhevalsky 30 (38)
- Schofield 2
- Horse 6

Army Priest 10 (10)

Tsardom Medic 8 (12)
- 2x First Aid kit 2
- Schofield 2

5x Line Infantry 6 (35)
- Krnka 1
- Rations 1

Sharpshooter 7 (45)
- Krnka 1
- Rations 1

2x Baranovsky Rapid-fire Gun 60

>>95877007
>2 artillery pieces
This guy means business.

>>95877007
I'm here.

Landsknecht Fahne 'Jotun'
Oberleutnant - 8 Silver
- Born to Lead - 3 Silver
- Former Krupp Employee - 7 Silver
- Reichsrevolver - 1 Silver

Artilleriegruppe C93 - 45 Silver
Artilleriegruppe C93 - 45 Silver

Soldat - 11 Silver
G84/88 - 6 Silver
x5

199 Silver

Now that I think of it, would it make sense for the agarthan colonies of the epigean powers to be a massive dumping ground of epigean weapons (from the Napoleonic Wars to modern equipment)? After all, an early 19th century cannon might not be useful up above anymore, but it's still useful defending the walls of epigean towns and cities from savages and wild animals. Are we taking this into consideration for the weapons of the mercenaries or the epigean forces (or even agarthan mercs who got a hold of old napoleonic mosquets)?

>>95877814
Generic flintlock muskets/pistols are free and available to most colonials and colonial-adjacent models.

> There is one truth, evident to all. War is coming. Skirmishes between the great powers above and below continue to happen daily. British trade shots with French over the rights to a cache of mummy tongues. Atlan and Mu test each other constantly over ever shifting borders. Libertalian pirates do battle with brave Atlantean sailors.
> War is coming. And worse.
(Tsardom and Germans do not adjacent colonies unless I'm mistaken so this might as well be during the Great War)...
> The Germans and Tsardom soldiers sit on their respective side of the wasteland, awaiting the trill of the whistle that may as well be their death knell. The big guns are watching over them, although the Russian soldiers worries theirs won't have proper lines of fire given the cavern's Walls. The Germans sees the Tsardom lines and worries that their preparation and higher calibers might not suffice in stemming the tide.
> The priest leads Przewalski and the troops in a short prayer. The Oberleutnant checks his revolver one last time, and then signals the artillery group to start firing. The only grin on any faces within miles is carved out on the Skull Rock...

>>95878287
> With the Layer's ceiling and Wall formations limiting the range of the C-93, the large cannons have little choice but to lob Timed-Shells at the one duo of Line Infantrymen and Sharpshooter taking cover in the Sand Dunes to the north. Despite some deviation, the team cannot survive that much blast, and before long both men are in scattered in pieces among the sands
> As predicted the Mountain Guns have no good shot, and must advance first before replying to the germanic assault.
> The remaining Tsardom soldiers on the eastern side of the battlefield advances, a few taking shots at the germans. I believe apart from one lucky shot not much damage is done on this turn, unfortunately.
> Przewalski and the other half of his forces have to advance down the chamber they are in, finding themselves completely cut off from the conflict by walls.

>>95878287
>(Tsardom and Germans do not adjacent colonies unless I'm mistaken so this might as well be during the Great War)...
It's not impossible for them to run into each other on the 4th.

>Pro-Catholic resistance in Sizilia Terza is a growing concern in Sizilia Terza, as they dedicate themselves to attack and sabotage the roads and railway projects of the burgeoning colony.

>To combat this, the vulcanists have deployed multiple forces to hunt down and capture this rebels, though their tenacious attitude is making it hard for the authorities, knowing the fate that awaits all catholics in vulcanist hands.

>How catholic italians are reaching the underground is a mystery the italian authorities have yet to discover.

>>95878382
> The Mountain guns finally get sights on the enemy trenches, setup quickly before sending a shell ... and completely misses. The German artillery group have themselves a laugh as the shell they shoot back arcs perfectly into the mountain gun, blowing it apart. The other c-93 thankfully misses.
> With the Line Infrantry rapidly crossing the flats, the Soldat feels compelled to rush out of their trenches to prevent the cannons from being swarmed, killing one Sharpshooter as they advance.
> On the eastern side of the battlefield, one team of russian soldiers manage to tie down one Soldat in place, wounding him but not quite killing him.
> Seeing how the Germans are thinning his line, Przewalski rallies his troops and makes the bold choice of flanking the enemy lines himself, as he is the fastest on his side by far.

>>95878464
> The C-93 opt to disregard the charging General, but the shell it sends at the Line Infantry deviates into a Wall. The other one has better luck, landing some wounds.
> Przewalski charges in, but importantly, not before the artillerists hurriedly load it up with a shell. It will get to fire at least once next turn even if Engaged. Unfortunately, my bad luck continue and he only lands a single deep wound (He decided to stab the cannon itself with his bayonet, not the crew. Somehow he succeeded.)
> The Priest and Medic, who have been useless so far, dig up the Wall formation in from of them and runs back behind the Skull Rock, just to let the Mountain Gun takes his shot. Finally, a shell manages to hit one of the c-93 crew and deals a grievous wound.
> The sharpshooter on the eastern side finally proves his name right and lands a crit on the Soldat blocking the passage down, followed by a flanking charge from one line infantry, which left him very much dead.
> Combined fire from the other Tsardom soldiers manage to kill another Soldat.
> More tsardom troops die.

>>95878558
I apparently fucked up on the last snip, my apologies, but it didn't go much further than this. C-93 engaged with Przewalski shot and landed perfectly on the duo of line infantry and sharpshooter finally emerging on the western side, the second shot and deviate unto the survivor. Przewalski attacked (while being danger close, next to a big stack of explosives, man's got balls), the Mountain gun missed his shot. In the end I gave the game to Kaiser anon around the middle of turn 4.
end of game results
> Tsardom 36
> Germany 73
Victory to Germany!

>>95878593
In retrospect, the Mountain Gun either needs a buff or a price decrease (I would go so far as pricing it at 20). As it is, it has the damage output of a rifle, not an artillery piece.
With that taken in account, and probably dropping the Medic, I could have brought 2x more infantry duos, which probably would have been about fair.
The new Priest abilitty only works if you bring him forward, or if you are playing a very defensive list. It might be better to bring him back to his previous incarnation, but also give him something else that he can do in order to have it be at an opportunity cost.
Probably more stuff I'm be thinking about.
I'm still not sure if either the Tsardom Leaders are too strong/underpriced, or if I've just got a bad handle on the Leader power curve any ways. Might very well be the later. Comparing Moltke to Przewalski for example, I get the redeploy ability can seem pretty swingy, but he otherwise really doesn't do much.

>>95878558
>(He decided to stab the cannon itself with his bayonet, not the crew. Somehow he succeeded.)
Mfer became an avatar of Dragomirov in that moment.

>>95878732
I've heard about spiking the guns, but this is ridiculous!

>>95878656
>In retrospect, the Mountain Gun either needs a buff or a price decrease (I would go so far as pricing it at 20). As it is, it has the damage output of a rifle, not an artillery piece.
Keep in mind it can shit out two of those a turn, especially if you abuse the workers. But fair enough, how does GX Pen 3 sound? What do you think about differentiating direct and blast damage like here >>95872977 (not the values specifically, just the idea)?
>The new Priest abilitty only works if you bring him forward, or if you are playing a very defensive list.
But... is that even a bad thing? Yeah, he's situational. A specialist, you could say.
>Comparing Moltke to Przewalski for example, I get the redeploy ability can seem pretty swingy, but he otherwise really doesn't do much.
Have you considered that it's the German Leaders that might be too weak? Especially compared to their very solid models otherwise. Yeah, sure, I do have a bit of a powercreep problem, but this isn't actually a Tsardom or even a *me* problem, compare Moltke to someone like Cunningham or Grant.

>>95878920
>Keep in mind it can shit out two of those a turn, especially if you abuse the workers
Not as of right now, at least not if I'm not missing something out. Artillery cannot be reloaded by default by outside models, that needs to be a rule either on the artillery or on the worker.

>>95879016
>that needs to be a rule either on the artillery or on the worker
It is?
>Heave-ho!: This model may reroll its Labour test once each Action at the cost of suffering 1 Graze Wound. Models adjacent to this one may also reroll their Labour tests, applying the Wound to the Worker.
The free reload on the Gun is a Labour test.
>Keep the Pace : After activating this model, test Labour. If successful, it counts as a Reload Action.
I suppose you could technically say it is not an Action, but that was very much the intent.

>>95878920
Also, now that I think about it, maybe slap Diplomat on the Priest then? You'd have an extra incentive to keep him closer to the front in case you want to fish for LP with Show Leadership. Adjust cost if needed obv.
Also, are these Hide rules still all valid?

>>95879075
Well, I can include it in the profile, as I said a lot of other artillery have it or something similar, but not all, and it would indeed go a long way to justify its cost. But no, Reload can only be done on your own weapons unless specified otherwise, and its not a Labour action by default either. I took Keep The Pace to mean that when you activate the Mountain gun itself you get a free Labour test which counts as a Reload if succeeded, but that is not nearly as good as having outside reload, and it requires some luck on its own to even be relevant (if you didn't have to Move and was already Loaded, your other 2 AP only have Reload to go towards, meaning there's no point in it).
If it gets outside Reload then it can shoot 3x a turn as it is now (Activate, shoot, end activation, Activate Worker a, reload twice, end activation, reactivate Mountain Gun, shoot once, end Activation, Activate Worker b, reload twice, reactivate Mountain Gun, shoot last shot.).
As it is now I don't believe it is possible for it to shoot even twice a turn.
>>95878920
>Have you considered that it's the German Leaders that might be too weak?
Yes. I suggested bringing down Moltke to 25 or buffing him a tiny bit to Kaiser anon, I believe we overestimated his redeployment ability. Might just be because I haven't played with named leaders like Grant and Eiffel in a while, and I'm not used to their position on the power curve. But they have lot of flexibility. Both Przewalski and Skobelev are great support pieces, very safe to send forward into combat, and will hold off the Morale break through their good LP pool for at least 2~3 turns.

>>95879301
I suppose it would be clearer if the Labour test just gives the Gun Ammo Feed 2 for the turn? If you succeed you can shoot twice and spend 1 AP towards your next reload. Next turn you continue reloading as usual, since you're spent, Ammo Feed or not, all the test would decide is if you get that extra shot *after* or not.
Also the point of the Worker is that the Worker doesn't *do* shit here, he gives one reroll per test. You get one free test per turn and you can't initiate more, so you'd get only one reroll from only one adjacent Worker. Yes, it is still explicitly abusive, since Workers can just sit next to it for the entire game and get Grazed to death one by one, but I generally follow the design philosophy of 'give everyone broken abusive shit, so it balances out, maybe'. But it's not important enough to argue about, so if you rule against it, I'm fine with it.
>Both Przewalski and Skobelev are great support pieces, very safe to send forward into combat, and will hold off the Morale break through their good LP pool for at least 2~3 turns.
Skobelev I can see, he could lose a Box and maybe downgrade to Tough. I suppose we could go back to Bayonets Before Bullets being just the Melee buff rather than out-of-turn activation thing, since he already has Seize the Initiative to cover that, but then I'd drop the LP cost by 1, and you'll end up with a weaker effect overall at the same price. But Przewalski has Mother-tier health, maybe drop Suvorov's Legacy and or Strength on him, so that he sucks more in Melee.

Atlananon want's to know if 2eanon is up and able for a game this week. I'd especially like to either try NSR against another merc faction, or Deepfolks against anything.

>Muan Diver
>You've been down too long in the Tethys sea
>Oh what's becoming of me?

>>95880458
I don't have other availability than Tuesday, if that works for you I'm down either morning or afternoon.
We can do NSR vs Mercs, I'm not sure exactly what, maybe Dr Hekyll/Mr Jive

>>95880837
Hekyl's recruitment list is the Agarthan society one according to my unit notes. I might want to make a different list to make him kind of an Atlantean Moreau where he's a colonial leader who recruits Agarthan units. Or maybe keep it as it is. What do you think?

>>95843403
Oh hey, someone finally did it, thanks anon.

>>95863283
Morlocks are so fun. Need to figure out how to include them in a story.

>>95861401
>Strauss becomes underground celebrity
kek. I wonder what the other big composers are doing. Berlioz would be having a roaring time with the fall of Paris, and Wagner's in trouble given Ludwig's in exile.

>>95880885
Academics & Criminals, either Epigean or Agarthan might fit his theme a bit more than having him get freaks from the underground? It definitely feels like he could go in other spots than just his own list however.
I am starting a "Rocambole" pastiche Criminal Character, I've been fiddling with the rules, I keep coming up with rules to put on him so I have no clue if this will even remotely look like the end. Intended for the French (We need some attention, and it works with the Apaches) but also as a recruitable Merc, so maybe that could be part of that band?

>>95880837
Morning is preferable, but if afternoon is easier for you, that's fine too.
>>95880885
Maybe he can get either Agarthan Society or Atlantean stuff (but not both at once)? I don't feel he fits with Criminals.

>>95879301
>>95878920
>>95878656
Moltke and Kr.Pr. Wilhelm II could be entirely re-designed, and keep their relatively high cost. Something along these lines.
Add Veteran of the Deep/Categorize the Schutztruppe Officier as a Hero.
Keep Moltke at 30 Silver. Add 'Pour le Mérite' - should be a radius-based discipline buff. Add 'Bewegungskrieg' - LP sink, something to boost movement of infantry models.
Kr. Pr. Wilhelm II - I'm open to suggestions as to what would be appropriate. Perhaps just a cost reduction.

>>95882573
>Morning is preferable, but if afternoon is easier for you, that's fine too.
10am?
>>95883026
>Add 'Pour le Mérite' - should be a radius-based discipline buff. Add 'Bewegungskrieg' - LP sink, something to boost movement of infantry models.
I'll come up with something!
I know I said it as a joke but Heinrich getting Veteran of the Deep actually kinda works imho, I could see a list where taking him purely because he opens up Silver and you have to defend him no matter what. If all you cared about was a tiny bit of Fear [Deep] management, it would be worth it.
Would also be funny because he'd be better at Parley than Wilhelm II.

>But no one plays on Water Maps!
I would like to change that. This is to that effect. Available to all Epigean factions.
This is the Gunboat declawed. No gun, and Hired Hands as Crew instead of BAP (you could always load up a 1hex or 3hex artillery your faction has access to on it if you wanted).
Cheap because by default it doesn't do much else than provide you with very minimal action economy through Movement. Unless you take a Morlock Shaman or a Sea Witch somehow, it also won't go *that* far on most maps.
Deep factions besides Sky-People should get their own version. Might be something interesting for Atlantis and Atlan (I mean Mu as well but even then Greater Morlocks more or less have them covered... )

>>95881772
>Main Droite & Gauche on Bad Olms
>Henchmen on Anarchist Bomber
Anarchist Bomber and the Policemen of the Future are both after The Gentlemen Outlaw, but he tricks the two into going after each other while he gets away scot free. The police don't know the identity of who they are after, and the Bomber's henchmen (the Bad Olm Brothers) are really working for The Gentlemen Outlaw.
>>95883986
>10am?
Ok.

I won't be using it or any other Hyperborean stuff, but i came up with a more experimental version of the Clockwork Hyper Repeater i'd like to try at some point. Also, the Deathray and Bayonet are missing from the Hyperborean weapons section of the merc book, which is fine because i'd like to do those over anyway (at least the Bayonet). I'll post this stuff later today.

>>95884410
>Steamboat
This is going to lead to a man'o war spinoff.

>>95884457
>Also, the Deathray and Bayonet are missing from the Hyperborean weapons section of the merc book, which is fine because i'd like to do those over anyway (at least the Bayonet). I'll post this stuff later today.
Could you explain first what you believe Hyperborean weapons should be, because I've been working on the book, made some weapons already, and the mechanics and balancing of models are dependent on it.
I also fear this will end up becoming another Pneumatic Spring Gun situation.

>>95886030
>>95884457
Sorry if that sounded bitchy, really wasn't meant to be. Here is what I had started, with the previous versions of the HYPERBOREAN weapons rules in.
> HYPERBOREAN : When attacking with a Hyperborean Weapon, the model Attacking must first either spend a PAIN token or take a Graze Wound.

>>95884410
In the same vein, i'd like to have a Gatling Gun merc.
>Deep factions besides Sky-People should get their own version
Plesiosaur, or some other big aquatic saur?
>>95886030
>explain first what you believe Hyperborean weapons should be
I think it depends on if the weapon is in a Hyperborean book or not. If it is, then it should serve the book, meaning it shouldn't outshine the unit using it, and should be as strong as it needs to be. I think outside of a Hyperborean book it should stand out as something odd and interesting (but not so much that it takes over the game). Because of the Hyperborean rule, and because (as far as i remember) you'll never have more than 3, i think a 2AP 6-7 Acc model should be able to remove a 2HP 5-6 Eva model the in 1 Activation with as much reliability as can be allotted.
With the Bayonet i was thinking give it Poison 3 and a Thrown profile when Affixed. I don't believe the Hemorrhage rule has ever gotten used outside of the Bayonet and Deathray, so i think it'd be better to just not have it. I don't have anything for the Deathray, and can't even remember it's rules, so i guess that can just be thrown out. The idea for the Clock Gun was the automatic firing thing, which wouldn't really work when you have access to PAIN, so that can just be forgotten too. Maybe throwing a gun like a spear is too much, but at least Hemorrhage should be replaced with Poison so that rule can be left behind.
>>95886355
>Sorry if that sounded bitchy
I didn't take it like that.
>pic
I think with the new Evasion rules the Memory Gun needs to be do an X,

Nine Sided Bayonet: Cost 2
+1 Eva, Pen 2, Leathality [/] / [G]
Poison 3, Affixed, Reach
>like that

Time Gun: Cost 3
Range 12, Long -2, Pen 2, Leathality G, Reload -
HYPERBOREAN, Headshot!
*At the start of every turn this weapon automatically fires a number of times equal to the turn number. This weapon may be Looted.
>idea that's too cool to work

>>95886619
>Nine Sided Bayonet
That works fine, except the cost seems a bit cheap, but I wanted to have all of these count as Artefacts, meaning they would be worth double to Epigeans, 4 seems fine, it has the potential to kill every Attack most Followers, but in a delayed manner.
>>95886619
>Time Gun
>>idea that's too cool to work
If this is an attempt at reverse-psychologying me, I'll have you know that's not fair, I'm eminently weak-willed. Its definitely not too cool to work, at all, especially in HYPERBOREA which would be able to generate more Pain and grab it, in Epigean that's definitely a weapon you want to handle like a hot potato.
> gun fires even when dropped as a token, scatter for direction
Kek.
>>95886563
>In the same vein, i'd like to have a Gatling Gun merc.
Is it to have an Artillery piece to give out to Mercs factions? I was joking with Kaiser about the proliferation of Maxims manifesting itself in our game a game ago. Could be another one, or maybe just an old piece of artillery out of date that's living its golden days in the Deep?
Or do you have something in mind specifically for a machinegun?
>>95886563
>Plesiosaur, or some other big aquatic saur?
Works for Mu, 100%.
Atlan and Atlantis should get something more unique I feel (although, Atlantis is not as much stuck on land as Atlan, its less of a concern, but if we give boats out it feels like Atlantis should get the big stick out of that. Beside the Gunboat, I guess.)

>>95879766
Alright, how do these look?
Savannah is probably not an exact fit for Central Asia, but it should work for any semi-desert with light vegetation.
Reposting the link jic
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14UKbQ4xcp4-YgqPDrS0QA6rumcZpVbp6a22FGxJHDM8/edit?usp=sharing

>>95887485
>Boats
Atlan should have a one-size-fits-all solution in the form of Titaniumclads. Atlantis should have a bunch of fiddly different boat options with varying strengths and weaknesses.
Plesiosaurs should be the merc dino (akin to tartaradons) while Mu should get sea serpents and Icthyosaurs.

>>95887542
>Titaniumclad
I vote for Atlan Archelon Ships (prehistoric play on turtle ships) for the name

>>95887561
Also a Hunley-type submarine (filled with titanium miners of course) to fight Mu on their home turf (a terrible idea, but a very Atlan one nonetheless)

>>95884457
>>10am?
>Ok.
Actually, looks like I'm going to be having a late nite up, do you mind if we play at 1pm? >>95887561
>>95887568
Kek.

Does this work for N.S.R./Danes?

N.S.R. Sailor: Cost 8
Soldier
AP: 2
Movement: 4, Accuracy: 5, Strength: 6, Discipline: 4, Evasion: 6, Labor: 5, Awareness: 5
Health: 2
Armor: 000

Opt. Equipment:
Beaumont, Dagger, Sabre, Club, Harpoon, Rations, First Aid Kit, Material, Lamp

General Rules:
Amphibious, Snow & Icy Waters Affinity, Fear [Deep], Harpoon Training

Special Rules:
Arctic Seawolf: Icy and Frozen Water tiles are not Hazardous for this model.

We also discussed giving Snow Affinity to all N.S.R.

>>95887601
Without the Kalthoff Quickshot thing I think it's fine, it may be a bit undercosted at 4 Movement and 6 Strength, but not by much, are you using another profile as a point of comparison?

>>95883026
>Add 'Bewegungskrieg' - LP sink, something to boost movement of infantry models.
How does this sound:
2 LP
After using this ability you may actiate up to 3 non-mounted, non-mechanical Soldier models in your expedition, and spend their AP to resolve Move actions. When doing so, they get +1 Movement, ignore Difficult Terrain and may use a single Discipline roll with a +1 Bonus when resolving any Hazard or Trap! tests.

Not very bombastic, but could be very useful for area denial, countering things like Crimean Welcome and in scenarios that have players trying to get to certain areas or objects first.

>>95887642
I just tweaked the base N.S.R. for a more Melee focused model and gave them a Harpoon from the Wahlur.

>>95887693
Comparing the NSR to the other similarly cost merc models, I'll put the NSR at 8 and this guy at 9, would that work for you?
Either that or lower their Discipline, Labour and Awareness a bit, easy dump stats.

Is "The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne" worth checking out? could have promise for inspiration on my end

>>95887755
That pricing seems fair to me, but I didn't do the other N.S.R.s.

>>95887768
Wait, nevermind, forget that. I've found an animated Journey to the Center of the Earth

You French need to stop hiding your media from me.

https://youtu.be/7gxuAe9Pxa4

>>95887601
Wait, I fucked up, they are supposed to have Lefacheux, not Beaumont, for options.

>>95887846
No issue.
Also, Atlan anon (if that isn't you but I figure it is) I've been going through the Merc book all day to fix things up in it, gonna upload soon, but since NSR does not have a recruitment pool, take whatever you feel is appropriate in it for tomorrow's game.
> I'd be setting myself up to lose 100% by saying this, but
Changed my mind. Gonna try the Outlander Captain & Sky-Ship combo. 200 Silver good for you?

>>95887690
Sounds good to me. With the prone fire rule limiting German infantry movement effectively, this could compensate and give some flexibility. Maybe tack on a radius buff to discipline for Soldier models.
For Willy, I'm still lacking inspiration. Perhaps something for combined 'arms'? Terrible jokes aside. Could give Moltke something else and give Willy the discipline radius buff.

I've uploaded a new version of the Merc book. Some stats and pricing got played around with, added missing equipment in a lot of places. We have officially hit 100 pages with the Merc book.
I will definitely not be able to make it for 10am tomorrow Atlan anon, so hopefully pushing it to 1pm isn't too much of a hassle.

>>95887871
Man, i've been asleep till now.
>Gonna try the Outlander Captain & Sky-Ship combo.
I am a little disappointed.
>200 Silver good for you?
Sure.
>>95887601
Sure. I thinking just give them access to low level Whalurs, but this is fine. I really love Beluga Whales. I wish i could think of something to do with them, but i can't.
>>95887799
Kino.
>>95887755
I won't dissent to something so minor.
>>95888124
>We have officially hit 100 pages with the Merc book.
Congratulations!
>hopefully pushing it to 1pm isn't too much of a hassle
No, that's all good. 1pm is fine.

>>95888342
>I am a little disappointed.
Would you prefer KoB?

>>95888386
Yes, but if you'd rather play Dr. Hekyl or something i'd also be happy with that. I just don't want to face a Sky list, you know?

>>95888449
Nah, Dr Hekyl is high level mastermind play, after the last two ass-whooping I got I feel like doing something "safe". KoB it is.

>>95888476
It's strange to hear a unit I wrote in my underwear at 1 am referred to as "high level mastermind"

>>95887542
>Mu should get sea serpents and Icthyosaurs
What about that shark with the tooth wheel?

Atlan anon, I apologize but I have to cancel for this afternoon, can we push back to tomorrow ~3pm? I won't have much availability during our normal schedule otherwise until next Monday...

>>95890927
>can we push back to tomorrow ~3pm
Yes, that's okay.

>>95890734
Hyperborean naval unit

Leader: 32
NSR Commander (17) Horse (6) Kalthoff Repeater (2) Bayonet (1) Dynamite (5) Ration (1)
Specialists: 15
Agarthan Fisherman (14) Ration (1)
Followers:
5[ North Sea Revanchist (7) Kalthoff Repeater (2) Sabre (1) Ration (1) ] {11}
3[ North Sea Revanchist (7) Gras (2) Bayonet (1) Dynamite (5) Ration (1) ] {48}

Instead of upping the price on the NSR, how about upping it on the Kalthoff itself? That was the point of having it be it's own profile in the first place (which i forgot that until making the list).
>>95887871
>since NSR does not have a recruitment pool
I was and am still nor sure what it should be. While mechanically i think them sound, lore wise i'm characteristically ambivalent. I see three ways to take them, i'll post more on that soon. I'm probably over thinking it, but it's good to be transparent.

>>95890984
>>95895142
Thank you, I'm still putting some thoughts into mine, but its not going to be very complex. You leaving yourself 40 silver out or did you forget something?
I'll have to run some errands after work however, didn't realize I'd be short on time, so its likely I'll be on closer to 4. I'll set up the room right now to avoid making it longer.
> picrel
Managed to do this while I was on call today. Intended for a large campaign with an overmap. Numbers are obviously shitposted, please provide feedback.

>>95895334
Forgot we are doing 200 Silver. +3 of the 11cost NSR. +1 Camp Cook.

Interesting stuff
https://ehes.org/wp/EHES_66 pdf
https://politiken.dk/kultur/art5606634/Hemmeligt-arkiv-Kongen-tilb%C3%B8d-Danmark-til-tyskerne-efter-1864

>>95816829 (OP)
Bump for interest.

>>95897475
Alright, gotta do some quick errands and I'll be up and ready, shouldn't be much longer.

KoB 200 (+20)

Lady Guenevievre 25 (35)
2h Sword (3)
Horse 6
Ration 1

2x Returned Noble 10 (42)
Guide To Camelot 10
Officer Training 1
Bodybuilder 1
Duelist 3
Pigheaded 3
Courageous 1
Agile 1
Horse 6
Shield 2
Lance 3
Ration 1

The Speleologist 10 (13)
Webley 2
Ration 1

2x Kob Halbardiers 6 (12)
Halberd 4
Shield 2

3x Kob footman 6 (10)
Spear 2
Buckler 1
Ration 1

3x Kob Archer 6 (9)
Long bow 2
Rations 1
Dagger

>>95895334
Is that for trading with NPCs or between players?

>>95901144
Possibly both. Its use might not be limited to a single campaign. But, coming up with it, I was thinking specifically of picrel, which is a campaign mode I've been wanting to design in order to facilitate remote/by post play as much as possible, since herding players in a campaign is going to be a big hurdle.
So, with an Overmap, the two main differences with the main game being that first you do not have limited Movement, you just risk (much) more the more you rush. Players secretly draw the movement path of their Expedition, reveal them all at once, then rolls based on how many hexes they moved through. Players with intersecting paths must play against each other.
The second is that any Expedition that goes below a certain size (thinking a 100 Silver) either goes back to your home base or disband. This is in part to avoid cheeky fuckers using the previous rule and declare that they zizag through the entire map with one model in order to bring down the entirety of the Deep on every player's head (you can still do that, somewhat, but you'll lose that 100 Silver automatically.).
So the idea with the Commercial Relations is that Expeditions can go to other player's Home Base or Outposts and trade with those, and the owning player may wish to allow or disallow this, but he'll have to commit an Expedition to stand guard or something.

>>95901685
Play by post here with tripcodes, or on some other sort of client?
Also:

>But sir, you can't possibly sell to the French! We're competing for possession of mineral deposits vital to our efforts here!
>Lieutenant: Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to deal and dine
(Recorded exchange between an Expedition leader and his superior upon learning the entire stock of British dynamite had been purchased in exchange for greater Morlock fillet)

>>95901874
Probably a mix of here (or qst is that still a thing?) and other, possibly just the Disc*rd by pm or an email I might set up for that purpose. At least if the movement mechanic pans out as I want it to, it would need to be hidden to other players.

>>95901874
>(Recorded exchange between an Expedition leader and his superior upon learning the entire stock of British dynamite had been purchased in exchange for greater Morlock fillet)
> Cunningham's plans getting wrecked by the local Agarthan Fishermen Club.
> The Last Sultan's machinations brought down by the local Olm theater troupe.
> The Neptunium Baron's empire turned to ash by one british madman pumping out Ambrosia 24/7.
> Last minute dark horse win by the Gorgs & Beastle team.
Agarthan Economics is possibly the most anomalous Agarthan Science there is.

>Existentialist Embed: (25 Silver)
Soldier, Elite
AP: -
Movement: -
Accuracy: -
Strength: -
Discipline: -
Labour: -
Evasion: -
Awareness: -

>Armour:
Identical to host model.

>Health:
Identical to host model.

>General Abilities:
Identical to host model.

>Special Abilities:
-Deep Cover: On deployment, secretly select one non-character non-leader unit from your opponent’s roster. (Write this down) The selected unit must have the soldier tag. If your opponent has no units with the soldier tag replace this model with an Existentialist Attache to deploy. This model inherits all attributes from the host unit. Your opponent controls the selected unit as normal, and you may not activate it. The opponent’s leader and diplomat(?) units gain the “J’Accuse!” ability
-”J'Accuse!”: (1 AP)
Select one unit within sight, then test awareness (not of that unit, of the one spending the AP). If failed, gain 1 dread. If successful, the Existentialist Embed is revealed. The Existentialist player immediately gains control of the unit if revealed. The other player does not count that model as dead.
-Note-Taker: (Need a pun name) (1 LP)
When your opponent spends LP within LoS of this unit, you may test awareness of the host model to gain an equivalent amount of LP. This ability remains active for the remainder of the turn. (So if the opponent uses 3 LPs worth of abilities over 3 AP worth of actions you still only need to spend once. [do you only need to test once?]) If the opponent’s leader is targeting one or more soldier units, then you may spend an equivalent amount of LP to instead copy the ability being used on your own leader’s activation. (So if Cunningham uses 3 LP and 1 AP on the Leaden Duke ability, you may also spend 3 LP and 1 AP on the ability, once it’s your leader’s turn.)

>Equipment:
Identical to host model.

>Recruitment:
Warfare Existentialist Faction unit

>>95903310
>COMMENTARY:
The Warfare Existentialists, by dint of being largely staffed by deserters, are not welcome in every army. This is hardly an obstacle for them. Indeed, some Existentialists prefer to secretly observe the development of tactics and strategy rather than influence them directly. Existentialist Embeds are said to become so engrossed in their part that they will risk killing their own, or even being shot themselves to avoid discovery.

This unit is screwy, but flavourful. Plus, I do think that the faction could use more than 2.5 units. 3.5 is a better number. The cost the enemy pays for the soldier that you replace is effectively banked and impossible for you to recoup if your unit is revealed (if you kill him before reveal then you still get silver as normal)
The opponent’s job is to figure out which unit it must be based on LoS which is a good distraction on your end and might make him place his guys in bad positions. Also “J’Accuse!” is a really good reference to have here because that really was a military spy incident.
This one could use some editing though, I wrote it a bit hastily and I know for a fact the wording needs to be tightened up in places. But getting feedback on the concept is a good start.

Sometimes Existentialists sign up for this just to get a chance to shoot at fellow Apologists they disagree with.

>>95903312
Also also, copying certain leader abilities might absolutely screw the balance even moreso than usual but that's part of the fun. Hopefully the soldier requirement keeps that down.

>>95895334
>>95901685
Ooh, I like this. Very fun. Would work well with randomly placed npc traders I feel. There should also be an Arab Merc faction whose rates are determined entirely by diceroll.

Also found this, and while it's a cold war image (hence the Russian text) I feel like it fits the setting.

>>95903310
>>95903312
I was going to call a moratorium on models to add to the Merc book (we could still add some to the Faction books proper) because its getting pretty darn huge, but this is way too good to pass up upon.
>>95904335
Glad you like it. I'm thinking that (at least for the first campaign) we could restrict a bit the faction choices, so that you could definitely have small Merc NPC outposts from which you can go recruit from, or if the right event happens, the Game Master can take control of.
Also, possibly, as a way to have players who can't participate regularly still have some way to play in.
I have a very definite goal in mind for this one so again it'll probably seem like I'm doing a lot of this on my own, but I am very open to feedback or suggestion, as you can see its very tentative.

>>95903310
>J'Accuse!
Was Esterhazy a WarEx who was just fanning the flames of war for war's sake?
>Why did you leak those secrets to Germany, Ferdinand?
>You wouldn't get it...

>>95907710
>“If anyone were to come to me to-night and tell me I should meet my death as an Uhlan while putting Frenchmen to the sword, I should be perfectly happy. I wouldn’t harm a little dog, but I would kill a hundred thousand Frenchmen with pleasure... What a sorry figure all that crowd would cut in the lurid glare of the battlefield, in Paris taken by storm and given over to be sacked by a hundred thousand drunken soldiers... That is the sort of banquet I have in my dreams.”

>>95907642
I might create a full faction recruitment list for warfs tonight if they're going to be in the campaign. Mostly just one or two American and German units who get transplanted, and a faction gimmick:
>Can recruit soldier models from any (within reason) faction, but only one faction per role (so for example, french soldier specialists, british soldier followers, and american soldier elites, or something like that.)

>>95909095
That's way too similar to the L'Ombre gimmick.

>>95909095
>>95909432
Its not has broken as the La Ombre gimmick, but it feels very similar. But, also, it kinda fits the theme of warf as well. I feel like we could say "epigeans only, 1 per role" and that would be different enough from La Ombre and infinitely less abusable as well.
>>95909095
Definitely, go ahead!
> In other news
Tsardom anon we had a game set up for tomorrow 5pm, however stuff keeps accumulating this weeks and I don't have the time I thought I did. Would you be up to meet on Teams to discuss the changes you suggested to the book instead? I'll be easier than doing it post by post over the thread.

>>95909518
Yeah, no prob. I'm down to talk tomorrow or the day after, 23:00 my time or later.

>>95909432
>>95909518
would it be better to just go through and put a list of which units can be taken? What I might do is say that they can take any surface soldier follower as a merc option and then give them a specific list of specialists/elites/characters/heros as well as some faction unit followers.

rigging a burner account still won't let me access the mediafire, how up-to-date are the pdfs on the hell platform?

>>95910494
You should not need even a burner account to access them normally.
Let me check on the disc*rd ones. There's a limit to how much I can upload on those channels, any book in particular you are looking for?
Have the overlords reestablished uploading pdfs yet?

>>95910574
I'd like the see the new merc book, and the newest Atlantis one if the current upload is out of date.

I think PDFs are still forbidden. At least it was more of a Paraguay incident than a proper Deluge with that one.

>>95910585
>I'd like the see the new merc book, and the newest Atlantis one if the current upload is out of date.
Atlantis I'll have to fix sooner than later, I've uploaded the latest version, Merc is there as well.

>>95909653
>I'm down to talk tomorrow or the day after, 23:00 my time or later.
Alright, let's do tomorrow then.

>>95910494
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/us7vnek39dc6k/AgarthaRules
Link is broken inn the OP.

>>95912223
Sorry, I should be available in 20 min or so.

Alright, 2e anon, I can't drop them in Teams for some reason, so here's a mediafire of the books (yeah, the "article" was actually a whole ass PhD thesis lol)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/km7m3nz6tjebm/books

>>95917560
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/km7m3nz6tjebm/books
>>95917560
>(yeah, the "article" was actually a whole ass PhD thesis lol)
> 315 pages
> look up a random one.
> "Nevertheless, the rumours whispered at the time were shouted from the rooftops some
years later above all by French journalists, novelists and playwrights; this mainly
reflected the fact that there were many in France who were dissatisfied with the political
realities of both the July monarchy and the Second Republic. Thus, these people began
to glorify the “better days” of the Napoleonic period, and if Maximilian were indeed the
son of the Duke of Reichstadt then he would be the only direct living descendent from
the Napoleonic line, which in return would have also legitimized French support for the
Emperor Maximilian in Mexico in the 1860s."
I get the feeling this is going to be perfect. Thank you very much for this.

Also, this image was too funny not to post it. I'll try to swap the ostriches for terror birds, but I'm not sure if I'll find enough images to make it work.

May I propose a "Rescue" mission, where two sides have to reach a point first to get a reward while fighting fauna and/or natives?

>Edward Strauss and "Little Strauss" playing in Maximiliana, 1884

>>95816829 (OP)
>British soldier just standing there trying to aura farm while barbarian man is about to get jumped and murdered.
The fuck is wrong with him? It's like he wants himself and the other guy to get murdered and the girl gangraped.

>>95919980
Here's a couple you might be able to use. Maybe too "high quality"?
>>95919980
>"Rescue" mission
Absolutely. I had started an "Escape!" scenario map, it could be a sort of reverse.
>>95920074
You are endearing me to the Olms like I never thought I could be.
>>95921945
>The fuck is wrong with him?
Too many near-death to not be convinced in the invincibility of BRITANNIA.
Alternatively, he knows Cunningham is just outside of frame, up for activation and sitting on 3 LP.
Or, alternate alternative, he actually does want to get himself and the barbarian killed and the lady's honor besmirched.
> "The british private is a wild beast in a red coat! He *needs* the lash!"

btw isn't this like 3x too big?
I know there were a few "terror birds" of varying size, but this seems very excessive...

Anyone got a batter edit to use for the cover of the Whalur book?

>>95923286
No, however i do have this image which maybe better for the sky whale (seeing as it isn't breaching), though it might be too of a derp.

>>95922856
>btw isn't this like 3x too big?
Seems more like 4u.
>>95887485
>an attempt at reverse-psychologying
No, i meant it sincerely. If you think it could work then i would like to try it, but i worry it will be too strong in HYPERBOREA and too weak in Epigea. I guess we'll see.
>gun fires even when dropped as a token, scatter for direction
Only if it has PAIN in the hex, otherwise it couldn't fire.
>Is it to have an Artillery piece to give out to Mercs factions?
Yes, and also because it's something that i feel defines the period well. It's a symbol of the times. Mechanically i was thinking something more in line with the Mitrailleuse than the Maxim.

Well this looks neat. I'd like to join but don't really know where to start. Do you all play on discord, irc, tts where I can watch a session, or should I just read through the 3e book?

>>95924206
>though it might be too of a derp.
Big dong sky-cachalot would have been funny, but it looks too stiff on every attempt I've made. I'll keep it on the side for something else however.
>>95924901
>4u
*angry french manlet noises*
>>95924901
>No, i meant it sincerely. If you think it could work then i would like to try it, but i worry it will be too strong in HYPERBOREA and too weak in Epigea. I guess we'll see.
Ah, I guess it makes sense yes.
A small thing to help toward that, since I'm going to upload the Whalur book (finally) later on tonight, but I was thinking of changing the Cruel Master/Experienced Hunter rules, right now I don't think the Whalurs have the potential to generate enough PAIN tokens to ever make Emanations relevant, and that would be neat to see. So, I'm thinking the Whalur [x] rule would include PAIN token generation from Beasts and Deep targets, and perhaps the Cruel Master/Experienced Hunter could simply add on to that.
>>95924901
>Mechanically i was thinking something more in line with the Mitrailleuse than the Maxim.
Sure, if you want to make a profile for it go ahead!
>>95924973
>Well this looks neat. I'd like to join but don't really know where to start.
We mostly play 2e, the books are in the mediafire and on the disc*rd. Main Rule book for rules (duh), Worldbook for the lore (although if you want an intro the OG design links in the OP are probably the fastest way to learn about the setting).
We play on TTS or Owlbear, using teams or disc*rd for the voice chat. You could sit in a game (given my opponent is fine with it, of course), I would also be glad to give you an intro game if you wanted. I am getting swamped with rl stuff to do o it may take a bit of coordinating and advance to set up.
> Unrelated
Kaiser anon I'm fairly sure we didn't have anything for tomorrow, but just to not let you hanging if we did, I got called in to work. I'll be out as of 4pm EST.

>>95925877
>We play on TTS or Owlbear, using teams or disc*rd for the voice chat. You could sit in a game (given my opponent is fine with it, of course), I would also be glad to give you an intro game if you wanted. I am getting swamped with rl stuff to do o it may take a bit of coordinating and advance to set up.
Either would be great. Also, thanks!
Is the mediafire link broken? I keep being redirected to my dashboard.

>>95912236
Yes, I'll fix it in the next OP, use this one in the meantime.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/us7vnek39dc6k/AgarthaRules

Does this works as replacement for the Cruel Master and Experienced Hunter rules? I bumped the cost of CM, since he himself can drop an Emanation with a single attack now.

>>95926577
Damn, really too tired, messed up the rule on CM.
Should read
> Until the end of the turn, wounds dealt to Beast and Deep models by models with the Whalur [x] rule generate x additional PAIN tokens.
Sleep now.

>>95925877
We had a tentative thing penciled in. I'm happy to go against Amazons/whoever need more testing.
Final chapter of the audio drama soon.

Tsardom Anon here. 2e anon, please remind me again, we scheduled that Przhevalsky vs Ottomans game for the 26th, Thursday, midnight/17:00?

>>95928379
I apologize, I just got out, and I'm completely burnt, I won't be able to tonight. Forest fire/heat wave/thunderstorm season makes things a bit unreliable for me at the moment. I should be off next Sunday, but I remember you said you were starting moving soon.
>>95929868
>Przhevalsky vs Ottomans game for the 26th, Thursday, midnight/17:00?
Yes, and that is a "holiday" for me so that one is safe.

>>95923286
I vote picrel, or an edit of it. It has the Hyperborean colour pallet, sort of.

>>95926577
Does the Savagery of Man rule allow for targeting friendlies? I forget. Otherwise looks good to me. Cost for the mate might be a little high since his abilities all use resources anyways.

>>95932651
>Does the Savagery of Man rule allow for targeting friendlies?
Savagery of Man is Frenzy when Shaken, ignore everything else about Morale.
So, through Frenzy, yes, but its a roundabout (the words will make you out-and-out... sorry) way of doing things. If they had too direct a way to damage themselves, it would be pretty easy to summon Ur-Ca reliably.
> Run your entire Expedition back and forth through a bloom of Cacti to summon your goodboy Hyperborean hyperpredator.
Kek. Cacti + Whalur combo broken.

>>95930792
Przhevalsky + Horse + S&W= 38
Guard x 2 + Berdan x2 + Ration x2 = 34
Sharpshooter x 2 + Berdan x2 + Alcohol x2 = 22
Line Infantry x 4 + Krnka x 4 + Alc x 4 = 32
Plastun + Saber + Kinzhal = 16
Uhlan + Lance + S&W + Ration = 25
Army Priest = 10
Montenegrin Duelist + Saber + S&W + Ration = 20
197 silver
I could also technically give everyone a torch, since they are free, but this feels cheesy. What's your opinion?

Are there vril mechanics?

>>95933746
Yes, Lemurians have the Chi of the INNER SVN mechanic to represent Cultivators hopening their Vril-Chakras.

>>95933923
Splendid.

>>95922856
The small ones are children, the big ones are adults. If you don't kill them, they grow to the size of cities.
t.local gorg shaman explaining why he tore the latest exhibit of the International Agarthan Conservation Society to shreds

Finally done. Took a while.

I can take a crack at a merc gatling tonight if people are amenable to the unit conceptually. I got to fire a genuine article a few months ago and it was quite fun.

>>95933999
>The small ones are children, the big ones are adults. If you don't kill them, they grow to the size of cities.
>t.local gorg shaman explaining why he tore the latest exhibit of the International Agarthan Conservation Society to shreds
Kek.
>>95935144
Thank you very much, I know what I'll use as a cover for the "avian" NPC book.

I've been doing these Agartha conversions between larger projects, the Atlan units had hit a wall (and I was starting to run low on free Stormcast figures) so I made a little Mu guy instead today. The body is a free Roman that came with Wargames Illustrated, and the head is from a WA Afghan. Spear is from Wargames factory Persians. If I buy a second copy of the magazine I should be able to get 8 phalanxmen total for the dirt cheap. After that I'll just have to figure out how to get a cataphract to sit right on a cold one and we'll have ourselves a city-state.

>>95940642
>Face coverings are a fundamental part of New Mu. Saur knights wear ornate visors, while Revenants use plain ones. Nomads don battle-masks of wood and hair, and both Muan masters and Doppelgangers are known to carry masks of flesh. Even the humble Phalanxman wraps his face in cloth before battle, though the rest of his body remains unprotected.
>Less imaginative scholars explain that the Muan obsession with bodies necessitates protection from disease amongst all human troops of Mu, as a soldier will be expected to carry his victims off the field.
>Those with a poetic soul explain that Muan mask culture descends from Old Mu, in an attempt to become closer to their rulers by shedding their humanity
>Griklakurusha the Old One says that it's easier to paint figures of your troops if they're all wearing masks, because highlighting faces is hard. It elaborates that inaccurately modelling historical troops is a major faux paus in Old Mu, so uniforms must be adjusted to match any changes made in miniature form.

>>95940700
>Some Epigeans question why, if masks are so important in Mu, do the nobles of Old Mu (and especially the Khan and the Mother) not seem to wear them?
>It is a preposterous question, of course.
>The blood of Old Mu simply wears faces as their juniors wear masks.

An Olm-Man visits a shieling of Deepfolks and speaks with a local Saur tamer.

>>95940771
>Green horse
>Saur
Kek, I buy it. I bet that's what the poorer city states do to look cooler.

>>95941034
>Green horse
It's also got pointy teeth!

>>95941125
>The Muan horse competed once before the entire breed was banned across the surface.
>Races in Paris are permitted only with the application of a significant muzzle

>>95940700
>Griklakurusha the Old One says that it's easier to paint figures of your troops if they're all wearing masks, because highlighting faces is hard.
kek

>>95941136
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mares_of_Diomedes
Perhaps Muan horses have some mythical significance to Atlantis and Atlan?

>>95941232
He's not wrong. I am slowly starting to get the hang of it at least, the secret seems to be highlighting the upper lip, and doing the jaw and cheeks as separate lines in addition to the normal stuff suggested online. Picrel are my earlier attempts.

>>95933999
Agarthan Conservation Society member:
>But good sir gorg, if they grow to be as large as cities, whatever do they eat? Even the largest saurs would be too paltry a meal for such beasts.
Gorg shaman:
>They eat each other of course.

>>95933698
>I could also technically give everyone a torch, since they are free, but this feels cheesy. What's your opinion?
Given the amount of weird stuff the Ottomans can do, and that torching the corpses require you to move in and spend AP, and that I can get to 20 models without even trying, its fine.
I think it should probably spend the torch however.
I'll be doing some fixes to the Djinn Bombard, because its attack profile is absolutely insane. There weren't that many big guns back then. I'm not sure I'll be taking it anyways, I want to try 2+ Turkish Tartarodon.

>>95946935
By the by, I think half-husked and the undertaker are supposed to be US (and maybe Syndicate) exclusive. Why are they in the merc book?

>>95947574
>I think half-husked and the undertaker are supposed to be US (and maybe Syndicate) exclusive
I think I added them to the Drunk and Doomed merc faction as well, and at that point it made more sense to add them to the merc book altogether.
> picrel
Whalurs deserve their own boat.
There is more cleaning up to do on Whalurs than I thought. Ur-Ca summoning could be made more interesting. Will post something soon.

>>95950929
Balloon Canoe?
I have an idea for a Kayak model. Finally know what i want to do with the Skrimshaw Artist. What is the value of Flyvory again?

>>95952173
>What is the value of Flyvory again?
Was replaced by Deep Ivory as a resource, so that it can be justifiably dropped by other beasts such as the Mammoth & the Quinotaur.
Deep Ivory is 10 Silver, otherwise there's the Flyvory Dagger as a special weapon for Sky-Folks.

>>95952331
Right, thank you.

Kayak Killur: Cost 15
Elite, Aquatic
AP: 3
Movement: 3, Accuracy: 6, Strength: 6, Discipline: 5, Evasion: 6, Labor: 5, Awareness: 5
Health: Boat 2, Crew 2
Armor: 5 0 0
Whalur [1]

Equipment: as row boat

Whalur Vehicle

Tidal PAIN: This model may move through hexes with PAIN or Emanations in them as if they were Water. If it is in a hex with more than 1 PAIN it may move the excess PAIN with it, leaving one in each hex it moves through, in order to move through hexes which do not alredy have PAIN in them.

Kaminami: This model may move into an enemy occupied hex while resolving Tidal PAIN, if it does, this model Explodes with the following profile
>comments
Unfinished, but thoughts?

>>95952173
>Balloon Canoe?
I vote for giving Whalur vehicles flyer but only on emanations.

>>95952644
I think it's glorious, the Pain tokens being moved with it is something I wanted to find a way to include in the faction as a whole, this serves this purpose perfectly.
Would you mind if the explosion only triggered on moving in larger models, and it could still resolve charges and attacks against single hex profiles?
>>95952173
>Balloon Canoe?
Now I want to find a way to do the Chasse-Gallerie in Agartha.
I'll be forever saddened that there is no proper translation of this that doesn't massacre the language and character of the story.
> "Pour lors, je vas vous raconter une rôdeuse d'histoire, dans le fin fil. Mais s'il y a parmi vous autres des lurons qui auraient envie de courir la chasse-galerie ou le loup-garou, je vous avertis qu'ils font mieux d'aller voir dehors si les chats-huants font le sabbat, car je vais commencer mon histoire en faisant un grand signe de croix pour chasser le diable et ses diablotins. J'en ai eu assez de ces maudits-là, dans mon jeune temps. "

>>95952977
That would be cool, but i'd like a Balloon Canoe either way.
>>95953000
>Would you mind if the explosion only triggered on moving in larger models, and it could still resolve charges and attacks against single hex profiles?
I think it will be tricky enough to use, and that that would make it too tricky.

>>95953000
Could you post the Sky Whale profile?

>>95953387
Here!

>>95953537
Thank you!

Hyperballade: [2AP, 2LP]
>version 1
Until the end of the turn, models which activate adjacent to a model singing a Whaling Tune must test Discipline or suffer a / for every 3 models singing a Whaling Tune. Friendly models may voluntarily fail the test. Damage taken from this generates PAIN.
>version 2
Models that are the only one of their unit on the board must test Discipline or suffer a / for every 3 models singing a Whaling Tune. Friendly models may voluntarily fail the test. Damage taken from this generates PAIN.

Which version do you guys prefer? It's for the Scrimshaw Artist. I've been having trouble with him since had the idea for him. The problem is carving scrimshaw is a hard thing to represent in a fun way. He would have had the same problems as the Battlefield Photographer, so i just gave up on the idea of carving mid battle. So then it became a question of what scrimshaw items he would have access to, how, and what they would do. One obvious item was a whistle, and it just went from there. The idea now is that he can be recruited with one of 4 Ivory Instruments, those being Whistle, Flute, Clarinet, and Saxophone. This would be the Special Rule he gets from taking the most advanced Ivory Instrument, the Saxophone: Whistle would allow him to Rally; Flute would allow him to count as 3 models for Whaling Tune; the Clarinet would give him 1 or 2 LP; each Ivory Instrument would cost 10 silver more than the last, inheriting the abilities of the previous. I'm thinking the model would cost around 9 by default, with Whaling Tune and Field Skinning being his other Sp.Rules, and Whalur [1] being his one common.

>>95954032
>each Ivory Instrument would cost 10 silver more than the last
Hear me out, take away the inheritance and instead give him elite so that you take a band's worth of them. Like the Dread Crew of Oddwood.

Also, if you wanted to go back to carving in combat you could have it be a silver-generating activity like Olm-Ranching where bones are turned into a more valuable material at the cost of AP and maybe pain.

>>95954032
Skrimshaw Artist: Cost 7
Character, Worker
AP: 2
Movement: 3, Accuracy: 4, Strength: 4, Discipline: 5, Evasion: 4, Labor: 5, Awareness: 5
Health: L1 B2 H1
Armor: 000(G)
Whalur [2]

Equipment: Dagger, Flyvory Dagger, Harpoon, Any Colonial Pistol, Rations, Alcohol, Materials, Torch, Lanturn,

Ivory Instruments: Upon recruitment, you may elect to equip this model with one of the following Ivory Instruments. Each Instrument inherits the abilities of the Instruments above it.
Whistle: This model gains Rally (10 Silver)
Flute: This model counts as 3 models for the purposes of Whaling Tune (20 Silver)
Clarinet: This model gains 2LP (Cost 30)
Saxophone: This model gains Hyperballade (Cost 40)
Hyperballade: [2AP, 2LP] Models that are the only one of their unit on the board must test Discipline or suffer a / for every 3 models singing a Whaling Tune. Friendly models may voluntairly fail the test. Damage taken from this generates PAIN.

Whaling Tune

Field Skinning
>comments
Too cheap without Instruments? Maybe make Whistle free, make an Instrument mandatory, and up his price? Would gaining Leader through Clarinet be a good idea, or giving the option to gain Leader? Should the Instruments be cheaper? Sorry for the inquisition. My previous post was unnecessary, as i worked out that my main concern with v2 (that you could snip the enemy Leaders and such too easily) was unfounded, as by making him with middling Disc and health, he would die before most of his targets if you got greedy. His bushy beard works like a Gas Mask; i imagine he has a bushy beard.

>>95954100
>Hear me out, take away the inheritance and instead give him elite so that you take a band's worth of them. Like the Dread Crew of Oddwood.
Kek, i like it. I'd hate to lose out on v2 Hyperballade, so maybe you get v1 if he isn't the only Scrimshaw Artist, and v2 if he is?
https://www.metmuseum.org/perspectives/ivory-clarinet

I know you won't like either of these, but that's fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CSiU0j_lFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etk4_mfk5Zc
Hyperballade gets the name, but Anchor Song is the one that i was thinking of.
>>95954134
Maybe as a Trait of some kind you can take a band? Whalurs don't have a Hero though, so. Maybe it is better to just keep it as one model.

Idea for possible Whalur specific HYPERBOREAN weapon
Rocket Harpoon: Cost 3
Range 8, Long -2, Pen 2, Lethality G, Reload 2
HYPERBOREAN, Explosive
*A models which is wounded by this weapon’s main attack automatically suffers the full damage from its Explosion.
(Explosion profile same as Dynamite)

Possible Explosion profile for Kaminami Sp.Rule
Kaminami: This model may move into an enemy occupied hex while resolving Tidal PAIN, if it does, this model Explodes with the following profile
Bast 1, Lethality G, Pen 1
*For every additional PAIN this model brings with it up to 3, increase Blast and Pen by 1, and increase Lethality by a G.
>comments
Too strong? I might be thinking it will be harder to pull off than it will be. Even if i'm not, making it easier to do but not as strong might be the better way. Sorry for so many posts tonight.

>>95954032
Both versions enable starting to attempt summoning UR-CA right from the first turn, which may be abusive. Whalurs are going to be a very swingy mini-faction, insane against the right models, fairly poor against many others, so maybe its not so bad.
I'm not sure how I feel about the mechanic for the Scrimshaw Artist. Unlocking them at recruitment only feels like taking it halfway to its normal conclusion, which is to just have him be able to carve them out as well (and sell them!). Also, there ought to be more things to make than instruments.
Going over the book I'm thinking of setting these changes :
> buff Harpoons, Dual Weapon : Melee Acc 0 Eva 0 Pen 2 X/G Ranged Range 6, Long -2, Pen 3, Grievous, Cost 1
> Harpoon Gun Ranged Range 10, Long -2, Pen 4, Grievous, Reload 1+1Harpoon, Cost 3, Harpooned!
> Harpooned! is basically the rule from the Meteoric Harpoon on the Captain, made as a faction rule instead, perhaps the rowboat could allow sailors to do the same or something similar as well.
> UR-CA : Gains Mastery [LNGBKR] (should always have had it). Summoning him now costs 2 AP, can be done as many time as you want in a turn, but the model doing it must satisfy one of the following condition 1) within 5 of 7 hexes of beast/deep corpses, 2)within 5 of 7 Emanations hexes, 3) All models who could take this action have a Grievous, 4) All other models who could take this action are Frenzied.
Also I need to reword the PAIN token mechanic, it was "packaged" with Hyperborea and the emanation and now it no longer works, neither Whalurs or UR-CA are meant to be fueled by their own suffering, but by that they inflict on others. They just care a bit less than what would be otherwise healthy.
> also
Birds. Big Birds.

>>95954439
>They just care a bit less than what would be otherwise healthy.
I don't think they'd be against a bit of masochism, Ritual Scarification was a tradition amongst some of the cultures who contributed Whaling Crew Members OTL after all. IIRC They don't drink either, to avoid dulling their own pain.

>>95933698
Last Sultan 35
- Husked Horse 4
Corpsified Imam 12
Husked Necromancer 6
2x Turkish Tartarodon 34
2x Husked Bashi Bazouk 13 (42)
- 2x Schofields 4
- Mauser 71 3
9x Nasuh Auxiliary 3 (36)
- Flintlock Free
- Saber 1
Should be 199

>>95955199
I think you might have pushed it to 201.
2 Bashi Bazouks should be actually lower, 40, assuming they carry 2 S&Ws and a Mauser each (13+4+3=20).
2 Tartaradons are 68.
Nasuh math checks out (4x9=36).
35+4+12+6+68+40+36=201

>>95954668
>They don't drink either, to avoid dulling their own pain.
The pain of Alcohol Addiction is greater than anything you could experience sober. You can pass out from the pain, but you can't pass out from yourself. *sagely nod*

A question I suddenly had about the cosmology of the universe: If the world is hollow/filled with layers, and the first is Hyperborea, is there anything beyond Hyperborea? The moon at least exists, since men can shoot a rocket ship at it, and the Martian tripods imply there is a mars as well. But is Mars part of Hyperborea or its own thing? Is the solar system all there is? Or am I asking too many questions that will only give me headaches if I try to answer them?

>>95955901
>is there anything beyond Hyperborea?
There are whispers of a "10th Layer" which lays beyond both the 1st and the 9th and links the whole thing into an actual Loop. Its nature is completely unknown.
Hyperborea (the "land") constitute the whole of "space", or at least there's never been any distinction between them. But not everything from the 1st Layer is part of the society of psychic alien monsters that Epigeans refer to as Hyperboreans (the Pale Dweller at least show that at some point there weren't just evil aliens... ).
However the distances and sizes are completely wrong, and what we most often take to be stars are just the light of their cities. The Firmament dome essentially plays hall of mirrors on everything we see above it. Planets are much smaller as well. Since there is no point of comparison between them and "Earth", the "astronomical" model of the universe is no longer considered useful.

>>95955395
I did, fixed by removing 1 Tartarodon, adding back 1 Bashi Bazouk and giving them Husked Horses. I'll be there in 15 minutes or so.

>>95959937
Good thread for backgrounds and such.

>>95955901
It is my assumption that, if things like distance and time become a bit screwy the deeper you go, then Hyperborea makes all the insanity of the deep seem quaint and sensible.
Of course Mu and Atlan and Lemuria and Atlantis and all the other Deepfolk are like that. They have a cultural memory of a time when the men and machines and machine-men and man-machines of Hyperborea descended from the heavens to scour the earth clean.
It is my belief that, within what passes for the skies of Hyperborea, there exist a number of worlds smaller than our own. They float in the void, hanging from the nothingness like ornaments on a tree. You can probably fall off of one and plummet all the way down to the Earth. These worlds without number are the homes of the many strange and vile beings that dwell above the Firmament. The Hyperboreans conquered them all, at some point, or at least the vast majority.
It is my fear that whatever lies above our heads is utterly unknowable. It may exist in some capacity which defies understanding, not merely passively but actively. Any attempt to discern the true nature of life above the Firmament complicates it further and, to those who dwell there, is perceived as an act of violence.

>>95960740
Okay, but hear me out:
What if we shot them

>>95960888
Surprisingly effective.

>>95954439
Atlan anon asking when about you think we could test Whalurs.

>>95961270
Not sure yet, may not be for a few days, I'll get back to you this evening on this.

Have we been mining dinotopia for art and story inspiration yet? If not, we should. Will add it to the main doc at anyrate.

>>95963136
New Mu uses a lot.

2e anon, on the subject of Bashi Bazouks, what do you think about instead of Dual Wielding giving them a Born in the Saddle analogue, but for Handguns only, that works both on foot and on horseback? That could also work for Austrian Grenzers, though maybe it could include Rifles for them.

>>95963136
Yes, your pic was used for a (rather nice) Deepfolk quarter in Paris, the other one that gets most often posted is the art for the Mu Saur Knight on a Megasaur.
I'm not sure if that's also dinotopia art or another one but there's also the Deepfolks that uses them (the Bullsaur Breeder in particular).
>>95965214
>2e anon, on the subject of Bashi Bazouks, what do you think about instead of Dual Wielding giving them a Born in the Saddle analogue, but for Handguns only
I prefer that a lot to the current version, which makes them feel too much like American Gunslingers imho. Also, Dual Wielder should be worth a lot, on top of their good profile, Terror and the Husk rules they are a bit obnoxious.
I'll be posting the batrep (as well as the KoB vs NSR) next thread, but some point of contention from the game
> Husked Tartadodon is insanely good. I would suggest bumping it to 45 Silver, cutting down 1 Health from both Limbs and Body, and the cannon at -3. And although it would be funny to pull off, resurrecting it really shouldn't be as easy as other models. Maybe say that you need to succeed 1 Res per hexes? So, not impossible, but definitely not easy.
> Remove the Health bonus from the Husked Horse, make the Dread from the charge on a single failed Evasion test instead of Failed Evasion then Failed Discipline to compensate. 3x Health Husks are a vile vile thing and should be limited not just by cost, even Elite may not be enough, because
> lol Necromantic Jihad is fucking nuts. Strength 9 Husks do not care about Bayonets, at all. Obviously its only the Last Sultan who can call it but even then, Tsardom anon had 2 turns where I honestly think his melee attacks were completely detrimental to him. Either we limit that, or perhaps another way would be to make it more widespread (having a Trait grant it) while either lowering the Strength of their models to below 5, OR putting a limit on the number of Husked trigger a single model can have in a turn.

>>95965704
>OR putting a limit on the number of Husked trigger a single model can have in a turn.
And if we do that, we could have Necromancy provide a spell which generate a pool of Husked triggers.
Another thing we tried and which I will go more in details next thread, but worth mentioning ahead, we tried a different version of the Hidden rules. Its fairly similar in spirit, you go Hidden then accumulate AP, then either Hidden Move or Hidden Charge. The difference is that the Hidden AP left over the Charge Attack translate into a bonus to Accuracy instead of just allowing you to flail 8 times in a row. It has less potential for going overboard, which will encourage using it sparingly, and perhaps more than once in a game. The bonus might not be enough, but not missing those attacks feels good.
Also, just Accuracy for the Attack, and the Awareness test on behalf the the target only triggers if its from the front, and only for the purpose of canceling the bonus, not the attack.
I think if we go with that then Hidden on multiple models may be more viable.

Wait a sec. Dual Wield specifies that it lets you purchase two instances of the same weapon. Is the implication that you can't purchase several instances of the same weapon otherwise? Because if not, it would technically let you get 5 Flintlocks for free lol.

>>95966062
>Is the implication that you can't purchase several instances of the same weapon otherwise?
Correct, although this deserve clarification in the rules, it shouldn't apply to thrown weapons.

>>95966262
Alright, abd the subject of testing Przhevalsky vs Garnier.
It just occured to me that with the current Evasion system Garnier would actually become insanely strong. Evasion is essentially armor now and it's even *better*, because you can't actually penetrate it reliably. Garnier's playstyle kinda implied you'd be Dodging with him and the Tonkin team before (or relying on Marine's special) , now they'd be shrugging off damage without sinking AP on top of getting the Accuracy bonuses. I think a good way to restrict it would be to make Evasion provide damage reduction only if the model has cover and/or is Prone (vs Ranged), and then you could make barricades function like Heavy Armor but for Evasion (2 degree reduction). I suggest we test it like this, and as I said, I'm fine playing either side.

>>95966542
What do you think of Dodging working like Heavy Armor and having it require only a success on Evasion?

>>95966607
I was thinking something like one degree on success + the current full dodge if you beat the opponent's Acc roll thing, but that works too, if you're looking to keep things more lethal.

>>95966542
Evasion is indeed better than Armour (but not Heavy Armour). I'm not sure I see problem however, even with Nimble (which is mostly the Troupe de la Marine) it still only lowers by a / each time, no more. If the French had more AP generation it might be a problem but there's not a whole lot more than any other Colonial faction, its pretty much only Rations.
France is in a similar position as the Tsardom for the shooting&reloading speed, it has better range but that's it. Dodging even once comes at a certain momentum cost.
Its just a /, maybe you are thinking Nimble works for everyone like it does for the Amazons, which it doesn't. Nimble normally just let you roll a second dice, you choose one result. For Amazons they have additional rules that say they get to reduce by / for each dice thrown on the Evasion test, but in other cases, you can never reduce it more than /. So shooting at the French with Garnier and the Tonkin team will almost always result in a X, appart from the Critical Dodge (which Nimble does help a bit with, but not that much).

>>95968443
I could see it becoming obnoxious with the Garde Republicaine (high Evasion + relatively good Heavy Armour), but those are Elite.

>>95968443
>Evasion is indeed better than Armour (but not Heavy Armour)
Well, that's kinda bad, Garnier or not. It worked okay during play, but now that I think about it, they really should fill different niches. At any rate, we could also play him as is and see what happens.

Running late for work, if anyone could bake? Otherwise I'll do so this afternoon.

>>95970391
TQ?

>>95970418
What kind of alcoholic beverages are brewed underground?

I may have been a bit eager, but next layer
>>95970490
>>95970490