Do you use the regular races on your runs or do you use other ones?
Like fairies for example , or races from American florklore, Asian, African and so.

>>95820745 (OP)
I choose races entirely on the basis of if they get my dick hard

Fairies, giants, halflings, stuff like that is all good to me.

I have a size fetish though so I'm not a good example to use.

>hey guys on a tabletop game board, look at this picture I just fapped to!
I will never understand these threads.

>>95820745 (OP)
Depends on what game you are talking about.

>>95820745 (OP)
I run Changeling: The Dreaming so I guess that both counts and doesn't count at the same time

>>95820745 (OP)
That's a very nice ass, but I can't really do anything about said ass if even sticking a finger in her will tear her apart.
>Lol fairies are stretchy
Yeah and so are Stretch Armstrongs, they're named after being stretchy and you can still break 'em.

>>95821038
Op had a micropenis.
The whole "girls made of rubber" fetish is so weird (fairies are an extreme case, but it's all over the place in "normal" hentai with ridiculous cock sizes)

>>95820783

>>95820745 (OP)
>>95821248

>>95821052
Anon you're supposed to stick her down your pants and have her thrashing and squirming pleasure you while you do other things

>>95820745 (OP)
What are some creatures or beings from myth or folklore that could work as fantasy races, but that one doesn't see very often, is there a list or something? Like, from Greek mythology, everyone's heard of the common ones like the Cyclopes, Centaurs, the Minotaur, and some less popular ones like Gorgons, but what about a race based on Argus, the giant with many eyes, just to name an example? Or Blemmyes or Cynocephali? If you have creature or being suggestions, especially more obscure ones, please say so.

>>95820745 (OP)
Americans have florklore?

>>95826608
A surprising amount.

>>95820788

>>95821038
shrinking potion

>>95820745 (OP)
Our party consists entirely of boston dynamic robots, slime people from the sewer dimension, and free-range grass-fed goats.

>>95820796
Some people enjoy eye candy while discussing games.
People on this board have been doing this since its start.
Sorry it's not yet another magic n gods in ur settan thread or book club discussion.

>>95827696
that's bullshit, but I believe it

>>95828030
Ok gooner

>gooner gooner gooner
Back to plebbit with you.

>>95820745 (OP)
Players get the races in the books because I can't be arsed to homebrew stuff.
NPCs can be whatever the fuck I want because I have 30 gigs of character art and I want to use it. No, I will not engage with /tg/s demographics autism and demands for ethnostates.

>>95835864
>30 gigs of character art
how much of it is (cropped) porn?

>>95821038
she's magical and knows a growth spell to make her grow to your scale. Or to like 0.95 of your scale for that snug fit if you know what i mean.

>>95833187
gooner gooner gooner
i made you out of clay
gooner gooner gooner
yes it was really clay

>>95835871
>downloading porn
Why would anyone do that in this day and age?

>>95837650
because it will get deleted?

porn is the one things you should download because of the constant purges by everyone including their own creator

>>95837650
Different anon, but I thought the same thing for a while, and at this point it's an archival issue. We're past the age of "everything on the internet is forever", whether it's art or stories or games or videos or music. Old creators delete their stuff all the time, and with AI scraping a lot of people are pulling their stuff out of the public eye. If you like something, I can't stress enough that you should download it instead of assuming it'll be there the next time you look.
Especially if it's obscure like original character art, doubly so if it's something even vaguely taboo like porn or fanmade content for an existing IP. Just download it and throw it onto a drive and forget about it, even if it's not for yourself, you might end up the reason anyone can find it anymore.

>>95837650

This
>>95837926
>>95837943

Hosting websites become greedy as fuck the moment they get actual traffic. See something you like? Download it now before you need two logins, a credit card number, your birth certificate, and a linked google and facebook account just to access it. Remember, you only get to enjoy shit for free until shareholders figure out how to make you pay for it.

>>95820745 (OP)
Usually I like adding monstrous races if the setting supports it. Elves and dwarves are fine I guess but if you're not playing a human, you might as well be inhuman.

>>95821248
>Looks better with cloths on
Why am I like this?

>>95820745 (OP)
Do you have any particular guides or other resources that you would recommend for someone trying to decide what races to include in their setting, especially less common ones, or even trying to create their own original races? I found the one below in another thread.
>https://2cradle2grave.substack.com/p/race-design-in-ttrpgs

I do what >>95820783 does with the the addition that the races need to physically be two steps away from being a human to justify their inclusion. It's partly why I have goblinoids as playable races but not elves (except dark elves), dwarves, or halflings. I also need to probably cut back on the anthro races but they're so easy to add.

>>95820745 (OP)
I throw everything at the wall. In the last campaign i DM'd (Pathfinder 1e), i had:
-humans
-ifrits
-kitsunes
-trox
-orcs and half-orcs
-androids
-a munavri
-talos (converted from 2e)
-jiralhanae (homebrew, from halo)
-eliksni (homebrew, from halo)
and this is just the player-equivalent stuff

>>95820745 (OP)
I like making characters that I can do a good voice for. Species isn't as important, I'll play anything from a snooty elf to a dumb lizardfolk who bites his foes arms off

>>95820788
Why is that dude so big?

>>95820745 (OP)
Do you have any personal pet peeves regarding races? Mine is having races that are inherently evil instead of just having abnormal moralities. If they're demons or corrupted somehow like Tolkien orcs it's one thing, but outside of that I never liked the concept.

>>95844727
>Why is that dude so big?
Shrink magic I guess.

>>95859893
>>95844727
He used a shrink ray on the girl.

>>95838680
because you have good taste

All settings only need four options.
>basic ass humans
>tall lanky fuckers
>brick shit houses
>freaky little guys
All thr bullshit you are thinking of right now either falls into one of these categories, or should be cut forever.

>>95844727
>draw a girl
>say it's a guy

>>95852408
some will call you woke but you're right
demons or corrupted people are plenty for always evil enemies, i think tolkein orcs can be very evil and still have nuances (i loved the shadow of war games for this even though they were obviously making up a lot of shit and they're not canon)
otherwise abnormal moralities make for both a more interesting narrative and give the players more options

>>95862088
>brainwashed as a kid by parents
>perpetually confused
>"trans icon"

>>95862127
>draw a girl
>say it's a guy

>draw girl
>say it has a cock
goons when >>95862127

>>95864867
>Pretending that every time you were ever used as a punchline is good 'representation'
Wild

>>95844727

>>95820745 (OP)
Mostly the usual. Thinking of adding amphibious Atlanteans although they'll likely be a monster only race.
>>95867293
picrel

>>95820745 (OP)
I have a fondness for Beast people. I don't like furfag bullshit, but shit like the Beastmen from Warhammer and Elder Scroll's Khajit are alright in my books.

>>95838680
The lighting is more detailed on the clothed version which makes her ass look bigger. Also she just appears to have more 'personality' with the expressive clothes on rather than just looking like a generic naked fairy.

>>95862113
Indeed. What settings/systems actually do this well though?

>>95870926
>shit like the Beastmen from Warhammer and Elder Scroll's Khajit are alright in my books.
Can you name any other examples off the top of your head?

>>95820745 (OP)
Are there any races that you feel should be used more? What about ones that should be used less? For me, I like artificial races like Warforged, and think they should be more common. I don’t have any races I particularly dislike, though I do think that there should be a limit to how many sub-races a race can have.

>>95838680
Were you raised in a home with strong morals?

>>95820796
Maybe be less of a retarded faggot?
>>95828030
Based.
>>95830285
>muh gooners
Rent free, fuckwit.

>>95867350
>Thinking of adding amphibious Atlanteans
So, like Sahuagin?

>>95840419
>I also need to probably cut back on the anthro races but they're so easy to add.
Which ones do you currently have?

>>95820745 (OP)
This is one of my favorite pictures on my phone and i rarely get a reason to post it

>>95887556

>>95884143
Somewhat. Do sahuagin have a caste system in which each caste has different metal and physical capabilities? I'm also floating a whole slew of other freekshit too. Crabmen, mushroom dudes, and some seafairing not!Jawas. This might end up being a weird game world.

>>95887502
Inventive squirrels, highly-religious sheep, easy-going tanuki, haughty kitsune, hyperaggressive kobolds, and stoic lizardfolk.

>>95820745 (OP)
Regular races don't do it for me, I always pick weird or unusual.
Whether it's kobolds, tinker rats, (fantasy) robots, or even a sapient slime, I would pick them over the human/dorf/elf any day.
Also, all this fairy posting makes me want to pick one for a giggle next time I find myself a game.
Not for that size difference fetish stuff — the idea of being a pint-sized terror flitting around the battlefield poking out eyes with a tiny magic rapier has me stoked.
Especially if I'd otherwise pretend to be sweet and innocent. Love this kind of contrast and expectation subversion.

>>95852408
Excessive association with some fetish stuff, to the point of being nigh-inseparable from it.
I.e. fairies and the various cum jar/vore/unbirth/what have you. Or halflings and noncery. Anthros and degenerate furfaggotry.
This makes ME feel like the weird one for wanting to play an alien space %insert_species% character as an actual alien, and not everyone's favorite exotic lay.

>having races that are inherently evil instead of just having abnormal moralities
I kinda agree, and kinda disagree. Inherently evil usually means being either born of evil (i.e. demons) or having been corrupted by it to the point of being part-demon (i.e. gnolls in some settings).
Moral relativism may fall victim to ontological good/evil beings and races. You'd need to deconstruct this to make way for "alternative morality", otherwise it all will boil down to siding with either the God, or the Devil.

>>95820745 (OP)

>>95890697
What exactly made him so gung-ho about exterminating aliens? At the very least he could have used them as cannon fodder against Chaos.

>>95877783
Warforged are kino tbqh

>>95890697

>>95827695
And what, get eaten by ants mid-coitus while she flies away to safety? Better make her bigger instead

>>95827696
I want to run a girls with animal ears sort of game but my players are all men
I think they'd be down but it would still be weird

>>95894870
>What exactly made him so gung-ho about exterminating aliens?
Any intelligent species is a potential risk to humans.

>>95894870
>What exactly made him so gung-ho about exterminating aliens?
They represented an existential threat to the security of his closest allies on Terra.

>>95898506
This logic was always retarded

>>95900045
Don't worry, nobody will ever mistake you for intelligent.

>>95820745 (OP)
Ass too big

>>95894870
I wouldn't worry about it.

>>95894870
Supposedly the Ayyys turned on humanity... They're also extremely rare and 99% of all the planets conquered during the Great Crusade are completely human. Whenever the Spess Mehrens encounter Xenos it's always a surprise, save for Orks. And even then, Ork planets were rare during that time period. Vulcan Lava Surfer Bro world and Morty's Shade's Children planet are exceptions to the norm.

>>95820745 (OP)
90% of the time I played humans
The other 10% I played goblins, skeletons, fairies, tieflings - each only once.

>>95887556
Would fairy smoke human-sized cigs or roll fairy-sized ones?

>>95897751
>Doesn't goon at the table with his bros
Reddit is down the hall and to the left
>>95904752
Actually since the fairy tobacco market isn't big enough they never developed a rolling machine small enough to accommodate mass production of cigarettes meaning the fae don't have a cigy smoking culture. Most fairy bacci enthusiasts make use of chewing tobacco as their main way to enjoy it.

>>95897751
I game with guys who I've shared weeb and RPG-related interests with for a long time.
RP'ing as kemonomimis is just one step weirder than what we've already been doing.

>>95904963
having any rolling machine would be anachronism, fantasy creatures hand roll

>>95904963
>anon writing "fairy tobacco market isn't big"
>>95905187
This. Rolling machines were invented in late 19th century. Hand rolling was the thing. Or pipes. Aloe is smoking a rolled cigarette from her kiseru pipe, which was a real thing people did as rolling tobacco became more common. Kiseru pipe needs a very fine kizami tobacco. It's like dry hair in texture. Rolling tobacco can use coarser cut tobacco, making it cheaper to make and easier to get.

>>95905187
Well cigarettes only exist at any scale because of the rolling machines before that it was almost all cigars, snuff, pipes, hookahs, chewing tabacco ect so cigarettes at all are anachronisms. Also I was responding to a reply of this >>95887556 in which a modern fucking keyboard is in the image.
>>95905377
>noticed my pun.
kek

>>95905472
People been rolling cigarettes since the 16th century. You don't need a machine for that.

>>95905506
I never said they didn't or couldn't. Reread what I actually said and try again.

>>95905553
>cigarettes only exist at any scale because of the rolling machines
>cigarettes at all are anachronisms.
Yeah, my mistake for thinking you said that any cigarettes at all are anachronistic and that cigarettes didn't exist in any scaled before rolling machines.

>>95905578
>Thing exists but is rare
>If you don't treat it as rare that would anachronistic
I can break it down further if you'd like. I'm lying I'm not going to break it down further.

>>95905669
>Thing exists but is rare
>If you don't treat it as rare that would anachronistic
That's not at all what you said.

>>95820745 (OP)
Why do I feel the irresistable urge to smack her ass until it's purple?

>>95905860
Smooth, plump asses are to be smacked, it's the natural order of things

>>95905187
oy >>95887556 is literally sitting on a pack of cigs, next to a lighter, in front of a keyboard, a drawing pad and a monitor stand

>>95900266
Ass not big enough

>>95911744
How would she fly then?

>>95917876
she doesn't need to, glutes are for walking

>>95900266
Found the Irish
>>95911744
Found the amerimutt

>>95908724
with the front of your hips, mainly.

>>95920834
I was suggesting that the weight would hinder her flight if they were as big as he was saying.

>>95820745 (OP)
I let my players make shit up. I help them make something custom by reskinning and editing existing races, and then I incorporate that into the setting.

>>95929759

>>95920902
>Found the amerimutt
>>95920834
Americans don't believe in walking retard

>>95820745 (OP)
I like to use the Charr and Skavens. Beastmens have untapped potential but most people only use them as dumb wild brutes.

>>95821248
Remembers a girl I used to pound
Except sfe had black hair

>>95887556
Cute

>>95890697
Me too, but not for chud reasons

>>95939073
>Me too, but not for chud reasons
What reasons DO you have for always playing humans then?

>>95904752
god I would want to plow her if she weren't so tiny and if she were real, i'm not delulu

>>95820788
Obviously different races are going to have their own niches, but how do you have Fairies as a main race in your setting without them being special snowflakes pigeonholed into specific roles?

>>95947224
Go the Recettear route where fairies who join the civilized world are basically put through a crash course on being a productive member of society, because the rest of them are annoying little pests that wouldn't know productivity if it slapped them in the face.

>>95948064
>Recettear
Never heard of it, interesting.

>>95820745 (OP)
>>95821248
I’m sure the spot between her asshole and vag-hole is the best smelling. It almost always is on a girl.
You get the nice sour scent from her front hole mixed in with that wonderful musky warm aroma from her anus, topped off with just a hint of that salty goodness of her sweaty taint.
You know you’ve got a keeper if you can detect a bit of urine as well.
The back of my mouth tingles and puckers like I just sucked on a lemon when I smell this. It takes everything in me to not give it a lick so as to not ruin this symphony of a smell.

>>95953614
It's an old item shop management game, the main fairy is a debt collector.

>>95953614
>Never heard of it
Now you do. Get on it.

>>95954237
That’s actually a pretty smart idea, if going by the stories that say Fairies can’t lie; they’d never be able to lie about how much is owed.

Fairies are in D&D

>>95958346
Anon, just because someone can't lie outright doesn't mean they'll tell the truth.
They can still withhold information or misdirect you with vague statements.
If there's anyone skilled in the art of bullshit and negotiation, it's the fey races.
They're the best rule lawyers and loophole seekers by necessity.
Truly, fairies are the winged jews of fantasy.

>>95937611
Charr are awesome. I always kinda wanted to get into guild wars, but never did. I dunno why. I guess most MMOs just have shitty gameplay

>>95837650
Because if you don't, you end up hoping that it doesn't get another pornhub event where a website purges everything it has on it.
Then your result is a video/thing you enjoy being lost for you forever

>>95967963
I even download YT and other videos from time to time, purely because the chances of being being removes through channel deletion, creator purging their content, etc. are not small. There's plenty of stuff I got that I cannot find online anymore. Or cannot find it in anything but 240p quality archive version.

>>95960755
>I guess most MMOs just have shitty gameplay
What are the exceptions? And what MMO have the best races?

>>95973918
Everquest 2 is what I think of when it comes to races. On paper, the races are great and they end up feeling different with special racial abilities they get when they grow up. It also feels unabashedly mid-2000s fantasy. Some of them are even unironically ugly without even a 'pretty' female counterpart. It's been a little tainted over the years by newer additions and being just as old as WoW. Lore seems fine, but the monetization can suck.
I don't know if there's any MMO that has both decent gameplay and cool races. Most seem hellbent on just having humans.

>>95974673
>It's been a little tainted over the years by newer additions
And what new additions are those?

>>95904963
Unfortunately while all my players are more or less weeaboos, they are only 75% degenerate weeaboos

>>95978767
The aesthetics has been worn down by later armor suffering from the same problems as WOW has. I'm also not a big fan of Freeblood, which are vampires but without any of the downsides. Vah Shir just feel like straight upgrades of Kerra and Aerakyn are just the fae races but "cool" and only available via cash shop.

>>95939073
Shoo, culture warrior, shoo

>>95840257
Kinda this one?
https://exploringbelievability.blogspot.com/2010/12/aliens-and-non-humans.html

Also kinda this one?
https://goblinpunch.blogspot.com/2016/12/designing-races.html

>>95820745 (OP)
Despite searching a handful of times there are zero fairy onaholes like a foot in size, with limbs and head included. You'd think fucking Japan would have gotten on that by now but no.

>>95981731
These are a great start, thanks!

>>95974673
>It also feels unabashedly mid-2000s fantasy.
Feels weird hearing this with a nostalgic ping, I still don't like most 00's fantasy aesthetics

>>95981936
Are you just being wrong on purpose so people feed you links?

>>95978783
>they are only 75% degenerate weeaboos
What's the other 25%

>>95990473
I am a zoomer so I guess it's just my nostalgia but I genuinely think there is a charm to fantasy in the 2000s. Felt like there was more willingness to give exoticism to PCs while keeping the gravitas of the world.

>>95990511
No. Yes. Everything I could find was missing limbs and a head.

>>95998723
That's because it's not economical to manufacture tiny sticking out details like that.
Get one and apply some aftermarket DIY magic, or learn how to make your own.

>>95820745 (OP)
I'm working on races for a Not!Mediterranean mythic fantasy game, and I want to do something a little more inspired than just throwing Satyrs and Minotaurs in there, so I'm going with:

> Humans (duh)
> Demigods
> Living Statues
> Nymphs
> Amazons
> Cyclops

and certainly at least a few beast-people since it is appropriate, but I'd probably lump them under one type since they're rare and probably the product of particular unions...

>>96003238
No Panotti or Pygmies? smdh.

>>96005517
You're right! How could I forget about the Pygmies! Fills the small race slot and they're underutilized in mythic fantasy. Thanks, anon!

Plus, I didn't even know about the Panotti, that could be really good.

>>95999271
>That's because it's not economical to manufacture tiny sticking out details like that.
I would not expect any random suburban sexshop to carry those but it's big enough niche that some online manufacturer with international shipping should have picked it up by now. Between RealDolls and BadDragon there could have been something...

>>96009386
>>96005517
Damn, this just opened me up to a bunch of other races. Cannibals, headless people, reverse Amazons, dog-headed people. One of these is a mouthless race that lives by smelling fruit and flowers. That's a lot of cool options, thanks a lot anon.

>>96010156
>reverse Amazons
Who are these?

>>96010156
Gargareans, a race of all men-- the mythology says they would mate with the Amazons and each tribe would keep the children of their sex. Obviously I'm going to do something more interesting with them both, but that's neither here nor there.

>>96010200
>>96010318
sorry, that was for you

>>95838680
You're a natural creative person and the art of the tease is to allow the imagination to run wild.

>>96010318
>Obviously I'm going to do something more interesting with them both, but that's neither here nor there.
I'd love to hear it please!

>>95998712
I wonder why that changed? And what are the best examples of this?

>>96019154
I feel like the reason why is simply that making races is a lot more demanding and that if a race is made its best to be similar to humans physically. I think Elder Scrolls is the best example of it, with the Khajiit going from cat people who have digitigrade feet while nowadays they're depicted as plantigrade.
It seems to have been a thing since WoW, since the original alpha tauren and trolls had less feminine females.
Finally, there's the problem of things being not human enough. There's a reason the LotR races are still used so often despite just being humans with a couple changes physically. We relate to things that closely look like us. It's why, as orcs got better in PR, they looked more like green humans compared to the pig-like brutes of earlier generations.

>>96020060
Yes, the relatability thing is a very strong modern trend that a lot of apparent creatives hold to. Basically, it's okay for npcs, monsters, and enemies to be inhuman, but it's not okay for the player to be that because they are intended to be a pseudo self insert vector which the vast majority of people likely can't or won't do if the character is not sufficiently human.

>>96020464
>which the vast majority of people likely can't or won't do if the character is not sufficiently human.
What's the cutoff point? I mean, Tauren work in WoW, and there's that new draconic race, but how far can you go, and what do you need to remember?

>>96020464
>Yes, the relatability thing is a very strong modern trend that a lot of apparent creatives hold to.
It's not really modern. Indeed, ~all of the pushback is modern. The only exceptions are animal-myths.

>>96022430
I think there are two main limiters: a) we have little-to-no intuitive conception of the body language of things that are not real (humans, dogs, cats, etc); and b) it should be pretty because people (especially women) like looking at/identifying with pretty things. If I say "the cat hissed" or "the snake hissed," you understand what that means, but if I say "the pterosaur hissed" you do not.

For playability reasons (dogs do not have hands), this mostly collapses down to humanoids, anthros, and centaurs.

>>96014552
Well, in my last mythic fantasy campaign, the Amazons who survived the rage of Heracles because they refused to fight him were cursed by Hera to never have male children, so they fled their island and set up where Sparta was supposed to be. If anyone made it through one of the passages that entered their valley, they would celebrate and welcome them. Strong men would settle down there, have Amazon harems, and raise small armies of daughters who learned to fight, labor, etc. kind of a lion pride dynamic.

For the Gargareans, I was thinking they'd either work like Spartoi where they kill dragons, plant their teeth and grow more of their ranks-- or they'd undergo a sort of pathenogenesis/mitosis-- split off smaller Gargareans when they reached a certain strength and size, and raise those instant twinks into big muscly warrior men.

>here's your character options

>>95820745 (OP)
>American florklore
Jaguar men

>>96030661
interestingly, we have some evidence that homo neanderthal-homo sapiens pairings were viable but often sterile. We have neanderthal cell DNA but no neanderthal mitochondrial DNA, implying that male sapiens-female neanderthal pairings produced sterile offspring but male neanderthal-female sapiens pairings produced fertile offspring.

>>96032708
Okay, do you have a source for this? Because I'd love to read more on it.

How would a faerie society even work?

>>96036007
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC368159/
this is the best I've found on a quick google.

>>96036236
Feudal system, with fae courts surrounding every governor and whatnot.
Governors are appointed through meritocracy, based on how many faeries they can wrangle to do something productive.
The king and queen are either genuinely competent leaders, or have some power to command the rest of the fae.

>>96032708
It's also a source of a lot of our illnesses. Neanderthal'd quite literally.
Wish our ancestors exterminated them sooner.

>>96022430
Well, if we go by the usual corporate/common viewpoint the cutoff point is basically elves and maybe odd colored/eared humans. They need to still look very human for people to relate according to those types.

>>96038090
How do you explain races like Tauren then?

>>96043547
On release, Horde had like half as many players as the Alliance because it started with just the monster races, and they had already sexed up the gals from early versions. Tauren were originally a handful of units for one race (Orcs) in WC3, so naturally made sense to include in WoW's Horde, along with the Trolls and Orcs.

Additionally, they're furries.

>>96030750
Nagual. And they would be shamans who could transform into jaguars, not just furries.

>>95820745 (OP)
I used to do it but having to write down the cons and pros was a pain in the ass

>>96052049
Either way, that sounds based.