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June 14th is a busy day in (mostly) military history, I'll split this over two posts.

1216 – First Barons' War: Prince Louis of France takes the city of Winchester, abandoned by John, King of England, and soon conquers over half of the kingdom.
1276 – While taking exile in Fuzhou, away from the advancing Mongol invaders, the remnants of the Song dynasty court hold the coronation ceremony for Emperor Duanzong.
1285 – Second Mongol invasion of Vietnam: Forces led by Prince Trần Quang Khải of the Trần dynasty destroy most of the invading Mongol naval fleet in a battle at Chuong Duong.
1287 – Kublai Khan defeats the force of Nayan and other traditionalist Borjigin princes in East Mongolia and Manchuria.
1381 – Richard II of England meets leaders of Peasants' Revolt at Mile End. The Tower of London is stormed by rebels who enter without resistance.
1404 – Welsh rebel leader Owain Glyndŵr, having declared himself Prince of Wales, allies himself with the French against King Henry IV of England.
1645 – English Civil War: Battle of Naseby: Twelve thousand Royalist forces are beaten by fifteen thousand Parliamentarian soldiers.
1658 – Franco-Spanish War: Turenne and the French army win a decisive victory over the Spanish at the battle of the Dunes.
1690 – King William III of England (William of Orange) lands in Ireland to confront the former King James II.
1775 – American Revolutionary War: the Continental Army is established by the Continental Congress, marking the birth of the United States Armed Forces.
1807 – Emperor Napoleon's French Grande Armée defeats the Russian Army at the Battle of Friedland in Poland (modern Russian Kaliningrad Oblast) ending the War of the Fourth Coalition.
1830 – Beginning of the French colonization of Algeria: Thirty-four thousand French soldiers begin their invasion of Algiers, landing 27 kilometers west at Sidi Fredj.

1846 – Bear Flag Revolt begins: Anglo settlers in Sonoma, California, start a rebellion against Mexico and proclaim the California Republic.
1863 – American Civil War: Second Battle of Winchester: A Union garrison is defeated by the Army of Northern Virginia in the Shenandoah Valley town of Winchester, Virginia.
1863 – Second Assault on the Confederate works at the Siege of Port Hudson during the American Civil War.
1900 – The second German Naval Law calls for the Imperial German Navy to be doubled in size, resulting in an Anglo-German naval arms race.
1940 – World War II: The German occupation of Paris begins.
1940 – The Soviet Union presents an ultimatum to Lithuania resulting in Lithuanian loss of independence.
1940 – Seven hundred and twenty-eight Polish political prisoners from Tarnów become the first inmates of the Auschwitz concentration camp.
1941 – June deportation: The first major wave of Soviet mass deportations of Estonians, Latvians, and Lithuanians from the occupied Baltic states begins.
1944 – World War II: After several failed attempts, the British Army abandons Operation Perch, its plan to capture the German-occupied town of Caen.
1945 – World War II: Filipino troops of the Philippine Commonwealth Army liberate the captured in Ilocos Sur and start the Battle of Bessang Pass in Northern Luzon.
1949 – Albert II, a rhesus monkey, rides a V-2 rocket to an altitude of 134 km (83 mi), thereby becoming the first mammal and first monkey in space.
1982 – Falklands War: Argentine forces in the capital Stanley conditionally surrender to British forces.
2014 – A Ukraine military Ilyushin Il-76 airlifter is shot down, killing all 49 people on board.

Today marks 225 years since the Battle of Marengo, the dramatic conclusion to Napoleon's brilliant Italian campaign of 1800.

In early 1800 the French army in Italy was poorly organised and demoralised. The Austrians under the command of General Michael von Melas had significant success, reversing Napoleon's hard-won gains of 1796-1797 and pushing the French back to Genoa. Without further intervention the beleaguered French faced total defeat in Italy. From March, Napoleon, now the French head-of-state as First Consul, rapidly assembled an army. The plan was a daring one, to strike across the Alps at the moment the passes became even somewhat traversable. The French crossed in May, rapidly swinging behind the Austrians and severing Melas' lines of communication.

By June 13, Napoleon was in the vicinity of Alessandria, which was then occupied by 30,000 Austrians. Disinformation from an Austrian spy and uncertainty as to Melas's true position and intent lead Napoleon to disperse his forces dangerously widely. Rather than retreat, and to the North as expected, Melas intended to strike east from Alessandria. across the Bomida, with the centre striking for the bridge across the Fontanone stream at Marengo, which was only lightly defended by Claude-Victor Perrin's modest corps of Gardanne and Chambarlhac's divisions. The soldiers of Lannes and Murat were behind Victor, and Monnier and the Consular Guard were at Bonaparte's headquarters, some five kilometres behind Marengo. Desaix with Boudet's division had been sent toward Novi.

At about 6am on 14 June 1800, the Austrian army began to slowly emerge from its bridgehead on the east bank of the Bormida river. Because it was such a cramped position, the Austrian deployment was time-consuming. As they deployed, elements of Melas's centre started attacking Gardanne's division, deployed ahead of the stream, from about 7 o'clock.

By 10am the French had deployed sufficiently to allow for Victor to order Gardanne to retreat back across the Fontanone. Chambarlhac's division was soon deployed to hold Marengo and Lannes with Watrin's division formed on its right flank. Around this time Napoleon realised that this was no diversionary attack and sent a frantic message to Desaix, recalling him and Boudet's division, and marched toward the battlefield. By 11 am Bonaparte was on the field and summoned up his last reserves. Jean-Charles Monnier's division and the Consular Guard were ordered to extend and shore up the French right, under pressure from Feldmarschall-Leutnant Ott's two divisions, rather than to try to hold Marengo.

While an Austrian attack on the French left at noon was unsuccessful, by this time Ott had started to turn the French right. At 2pm, with their men exhausted after beating back several major Austrian assaults and running dangerously short of ammunition short, Victor and Lannes finally abandoned Marengo and the line of Fontanone Creek. The French fell back slowly, and in relatively good order, harassed by cavalry and pounded by artillery. Monnier's division and the Consular Guard arrived and were committed to stop Ott's advance, but they were also forced to retreat. Meanwhile Desaix, apparently already en route, having marched to the sound of the guns, met Napoleon's staff officer on the road.

The French fell back some 3km and attempted to regroup to hold the village of San Giuliano. Outnumbered and driven from their best defensive position, the battle was as good as lost.

Melas, who was injured when his horse was shot out from under him, and 71 years old, handed over command of the persuit to his chief of staff, Anton von Zach, and Konrad Valentin von Kaim. Valuable time was wasted in reorganising the Austrian centre into a column. Meanwhile, the entire division of the Austrian left under O'Rielly became absorbed in pursuing and capturing a detachment of 300–400 French soldiers at Cassina Bianca. This took his troops out of supporting distance from the Austrian main body. On the Austrian left, Ott hesitated to press hard against the French because Jean Rivaud's small brigade of French cavalry hovered to the north.

Meanwhile Desaix hastened his advance. Shortly before 5pm, he reported to Bonaparte in person with the news that his force (6,000 men and 9 guns of Boudet's division) was not far behind. The story goes that, asked by Bonaparte what he thought of the situation, Desaix replied: "This battle is completely lost. However, there is time to win another."

The French were fast to bring up and deploy the fresh troops in front of San Giuliano, and the Austrians were slow to mount their attack. The soon-famed 9ème Légère, the 9th Light Infantry Regiment, were thrown forward to buy time screening Desaix's forces as they deployed, surprising the head of the Austrian column in the process. A French counterattack beat back the lead Austrian brigade. Zach brought forward a grenadier brigade in response and they resumed their attack. Faced with a crisis, Napoleon sent Desaix forward again and ordered a supporting cavalry charge requested by his general. French guns blasted the Austrians with grapeshot at close range. Further back, an Austrian ammunition limber exploded. In the temporary heightening of confusion, the Austrian grenadiers were charged on their left flank by French heavy cavalry and disintegrated. This precipitated a general collapse of the Austrian centre.

However, at the very moment of victory, Desaix was killed by a musket ball.

Napoleon reportedly mourned the loss of Desaix. Monuments were commissioned and erected in his honour, though it should be noted this magnanimity towards his saviour came at no political risk, a dead man can't usurp power.

The political ramifications of the French victory at Marengo were enormous. Melas convened a war council and signed the very unfavourable Convention of Alessandria the day after the battle. The victory consolidated Napoleon's political position in Paris as First Consul paved the way to his coronation as Emperor, and provided the political capital for him to reform France as he saw fit.

As far as playing Marengo the current issue (125) of Wargames Soldiers and Strategy magazine is themed around Napoleon's rise to power and has articles for a couple of options for playing this campaign. One is a series of three scenarios focussed on Victor's spirited defence of the Fontanone and Marengo against escalating attacks. The article provides stats for Black Powder but the author also recommends General de Brigade.

The other is a relatively common one, a map campaign covering the whole region from the point at which Napoleon marches over the Alps. The Italian campaign of 1800 has got a lot going for it for wargamers, particularly beginners, being geographically and temporally restrained and something great that can be achieved after simply painting a bunch of French and Austrians. Excellent for smaller miniatures scale wargamers. It really suits something umpire managed with a lot of fog of war.
For those living under a rock, Little Wars TV did a great episode on the campaign played out as a big club game with a relatively fast play system, Snappy Nappy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbh4G5RUqbY
https://www.littlewarstv.com/members-only/play-the-marengo-scenario?view=full

For gamers curious about board wargames, Triomphe à Marengo is a less conventional block wargame with some good thought behind it and sincere fans here and across the internet. It's certainly something I'll be looking into myself.

Today also marks the 250th birthday of the United States Army.

On June 14, 1775, the Second Continental Congress decided to proceed with the establishment of a Continental Army for purposes of common defense, adopting the forces already in place outside Boston (22,000 troops) and New York (5,000). It also raised the first ten companies of Continental troops on a one-year enlistment, riflemen from Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and Virginia to be used as light infantry, who became the 1st Continental Regiment in 1776. On June 15 the Congress elected George Washington as Commander-in-Chief by unanimous vote. He accepted and served throughout the war without any compensation except for reimbursement of expenses.

As a bonus the thread has died a few times now on the 14th of June.
Here's an archived thread with the original OP's treatment of Naseby:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/47771646/
Rather than recycle that Naseby OP again I thought I'd write something different, and when I saw it was the Marengo anniversary also, well. Here's another one with shorter versions of Naseby and Marengo, which had I seen that earlier I might have got lazy and not done this OP.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/40587643/

Anyone have the Bolt Action 3rd edition armies books and would care to share? Was thinking of picking up the latest starter with the Fallschirmjäger.

stuff from gripping beast arrived yesterday
not planning on painting any particular historical unit so just decided to mess around with yellow and red, I got 8 of these musketeers, not sure if I want to paint all of them in this uniform though
I only have a couple of things in 28mm so I'm not sure how much more stuff I really wanna get tbqh

>>95869454
>gripping beast
I knew her in college...

Serious mode, looks good.

I've been getting started on my Russia-Ukraine 2022 project. I found this $5 cars at the toy store. I think it's supposed to be a American MATV, but once repainted I think it passes as a Russian GAZ Tigr pretty well, especially to laymen. Even if it's slightly inaccurate, I still prefer spending $5 on a toy car than $40 on an accurate Tigr from Empress Miniatures

This free ww2 scenarios are great. Anyone has the others?
https://skirmishcampaigns.com/downloads/

>>95869977
And speaking of Empress Miniatures, I bought this true scale BMP-2 from them and it makes me realize how retarded and out of scale Bolt Action tanks are. Look at this Empress BMP next to a Warlord Games T-34. Keep in mind the BMP and the T-34 are pretty much the exact same size IRL, both 22ft long

>>95869994
That's because BA vehicles are the classic 1/56 scale while that BMP2 is probably 1/48. Iirc 1/48 is much more accurate in comparison to 28mm dudes then 1/56 is, but 1/56 models are more prevalent and and extensive.

parlez vous francais?

>>95830021
>purple-brown wash
do you make them yourself? and if so how? Model paint + dish soap + water?

I would like to try a dark purple wash on my armor.

>>95870038
>>95870088
I ask because I lost my nuln oil, so two of my cavalry are unwashed and unhappy :(

>>95870088
I'm made my washes in the past using that YouTube recipe, but for these I just used Targor Rageshade

>>95870331
Thanks for the info!

>>95870845
You're welcome. I'm so flattered someone saved my pic to be honest

Does anyone make good .stls for AK47Republic? 15-20mm?

>>95870860
Play 28mm like a man

>>95870901
I don't have enough space, and frankly money, for yet another 28mm game. I'm reserving some space for second army for Chain of Command and some more SAGA warbands in the future, but besides that from now on my toy soldiers are going to be small.

>>95870955
Poorfag

>>95870955
I feel the same way after getting a couple of 28mm things just for a skirmish game
Might seriously go down the 6mm route or turn my 10mm into skirmish stuff

>>95871024
>6mm
Just play a board game at this point

>>95869006
Nvm found it ;)

>>95869454
Wow, really fire-ish yellow. Is it Contrast or airbrush?

what's a good scale for joint naval/land operation games? I'm thinking American Civil War or maybe Colonials era. So for 1/600 (3mm) looks alright in terms of what's avaliable on the naval and land sides but I'd like some outside input since I'm mainly used to your standard 28mm stuff.

>>95871424
Been using army painter speedpaints
Think I will drybrush and maybe highlight it a bit as the yellow's a little bit darker than what I'd like
Been trying to figure out the best priming too, I'm shite at using spray so I've been brushing on grey and then spray over it with white

Current army progress. Would be enough for a lord of the rings mass battle game if I could play that!

Still need to find my wash for the cav.

>>95871844
Nice lil collection you got there, pipsqueak

>>95872008
its like an ocean...

an ocean of stink and steel.

>>95871844
Excellent work.

The edge of a village, somewhere in southern Italy

>>95874016
A scratch force of infantry, armor, and artillery pieces anchor this flank of a defensive line. The Italians brought three squads of infantry, a light anti-tank gun, a howitzer, and an anti-air piece, plus three of their light tanks

>>95874027
Against them, fresh from the desert at the other end of the Mediterranean, were a British infantry platoon with two and a half squads plus several support teams, an Armored Carrier Platoon, and a single M3 tank

>>95874031
(Oh and a Humber armored car)

The actual course of the battle was fairly simple. Infantry and weapons teams moved on first, and the Italians quickly unlimbered and set up their guns, using their armored carriers to flank. The Italians covered one flank with one of their tanks and kept the other two on the road to face the British M3, which turned out to be a mistake as it was able to beat them both in a straight duel. The Italian Howitzer was apparently cursed and never scored a hit, and a mix of offshore bombardment from the Royal Navy, light mortars, and superior firepower on a per-squad basis proved decisive.

My first game after getting back into Bolt Action from having skipped 2nd ed. Went well. Gotta get the rest of my armored carriers printed up.

>>95874052
At one point, my opponent actually missed spotting that my Humber armored car was on the field and didn't fire his light AT gun at it when he had the chance, and the Humber ended up killing the AT gun's crew, apparently because the Caunter camo actually worked.

Tiny airplanes! These are really fun to paint. I need to figure out these stands though. Each base came with three rods of different hight and three caps. One for each rod. They're all so lose fitting that I need to figure out a good way to keep them together but also let me swap out different size rods for different altitudes. Right now they just have sticky tack for the photo. That may be the final solution but I'll figure it out later.

Some of the mystery airplanes from last thread turned out to be Pfalz DIIIa! Excess flash on the tail structures made them impossible to identify from the shitty eBay photos. The problem with them is there a bit later war for the 1915/1916 project I'm planning.

>We took over the sector behind the village of Serre on 5 July from the 94th Brigade and at night time, when I looked out, the flares were all going up, and between the lines, in No Man’s Land, there were twinkling lights everywhere. I thought, twinkling lights, what could it be? I found out afterwards the Pals Battalions of 31st Division had arranged that every man would carry a triangular piece of tin on the back of his pack so that when he was crawling forward, attacking, our own airmen looking down could see the depth of the advance. All those twinkling lights were literally hundreds of men who had been killed on that morning, before breakfast, awful slaughter. You can understand what a man felt like to see that. I just thanked God we hadn’t been ordered to attack, although had we been ordered to do so we would have done our duty, I would think, because we’d got to win the war.

>Corporal Norman Edwards, 1/6th Gloucestershire Regiment, 1894-1999

>>95874027
Amazing looking paint job on the vehicles
>>95874031
Paint your fucking cars

>>95874063
Unironically, why would you paint your Brits as street shitting Indians? Who wants to play pajeets when you can play anglo chads?

Made some progress on my 2022 Russians. The BMP I intentionally left it without Z marking so it can be used for the Russian or Ukrainian side, depending on the scenario. It was extremely tempting to paint Z on it though, early war Russians had the most kino aesthetic

>>95874387
Not including the Indians would be ahistorical and this is /hwg/, not /awg/

>>95874433
Your army is like 4 squads, having a few squads of white guys in the british army is entirely historical

>>95874452
I will be accurately depicting the British 8th Army as a mix of British(more Scots than Englishmen), Indians Sikh, Punjabi and Yusufzai, New Zealanders, Rhodesians, and South Africans. Pretending that the "camera" only focuses on one half of the army for political reasons would be ahistorical.

>>95874487
lmao such a cuck

>>95874552
This isn't /awg/, depicting a pure white British 8th Army would be ahistorical and thus tranny behavior.

>>95874593
You're not depicting the entire 8th army, you're depicting just a few squads from the 8th army. There is no reason to include pajeets unless 1). You are a pajeet or you somehow actually like pajeets, or 2). you felt the need to paint pajeets for diversity and fulfill the leftoid passionate desire to force inclusion in everything. Specifically because Indians were typically formed into their own regiments, it's actually ahistorical to mix them together in your little bolt action platoon. Cuck

>>95874640
Maybe it's just in tribute for their sacrifice and to paint something different?

>>95874387
Indians were some of the hardest bastards in the British army, especially in North and East Africa.

Respect to the anon for including them and not sticking to the same vanilla 8th Army force we've seen for the last 50 years

>>95875355
I read a bunch of books when I decided to do 8th Army, and a lot of them mentioned the Indians. Plus, the turbans are cool and stand out.

I know that theoretically I'd have, say, Indian infantry, white artillerymen and tankers, etc because they'd all be from different regiments raised locally, but I wanted to portray the mixed nature of the 8th. I can always handwave it and say they're a scratch force in the aftermath of a defeat where everything's jumbled up.

>>95875393
And now the Royal Artillery is here with a troop of 25 pounders

>>95875393
And now the Royal Artillery is here with a troop of 25 pounders. After I get these and the Cromwell and Jeeps I'm getting from friends painted I'll probably be done for a while. Not exactly a need for a huge army in this game.

>>95874640
Or 3) he actually enjoys history unlike *certain faggots* in this thread and wants to make a cool reference to the historical situation of the army he's painting.

>>95875875
>actually enjoys history
It's this. The reading and research is the most fun part for me. I spent a few shifts at work reading all the relevant Osprey books from our mediafire. And the Indian soldiers were cool. Plus, they're right there in the Warlord kit.

>>95874552

>>95875393
>>95874593
>NOOOOOOO THAT WOULD BE AHISTORICAL AND TRANNY BEHAVIOR
>actually having mixed race units is ahistorical
>OH WELL ILL JUST HANDWAVE IT
lmao just admit you are wanted to self insert into the bolt action army, Ramjeet

>>95875355
Sar do no redeem actually indians are the bloodiest bastards sar

>>95876155
posted this hoe on accident, meant to include an Indian pic

>>95876155
World War 2 is the foundation of modern western civilizations moral framework, it's our Founding Myth. Hitler is our devil. Modern western civilization reveres brown people it's part of the moral framework, which is why all the allied countries have legends and myths about their token brown fighters from WW2. For America the Tuskegee airmen are all brave ace pilots, bravely fighting overwhelming odds to protect the helpless white bomber crews. The British and French worship the legendary ferocity and courage of the Sikhs and Senegalese respectively. Despite the fact that the numbers don't show these units being more effective as their white counters parts, often showing the opposite. No contemporary sources rave about the effectiveness of indians or them being "hard bastards," all these claims were written by boomer pop history authors and are unfounded.

>>95876165
You having that picture on your drive tells me all I need to know in order to accurately value your opinions and you as a person.

>>95876165
ngl famalam obsessing over photos of random white women is pretty indian behaviour

>this thread rite now

>>95876684

>>95871559
Same anon here. Speedpaint is what I use too: cheaper than Contrast, less coffee stains plus way better bottles.

That being said their naming convention is all over the place and sometime straight up lies to us. Like their Zealot Yellow clearly being too orange. I used it for my Sohei monks and have no regrets since anything from yellow to red is Buddhist enough in my book. I think it helps your own mini to pop a lot too, but if you really wanted yellow then it's Maize Yellow or Pastel Yellow. You can stretch it with Ancient Honey but that's already a bit more brownish/orangey.

>>95876772
>noble skin
>is a nigger
Lmao

>>95876853
I warned you some of the names are straight up lies. I find it really fascinating that anything from globohomo refering to niggers is tiptoeing about it as if they have massive chip on their shoulders and were about to chimpout.

>>95876772
yeah I only had a limited choice, think the maize yellow was out of stock when I bought some extra paints, would have probably been the colour I was looking for too, oh well

crusader skin is also terrible, like it doesnt even work

>>95876772
Why would anyone buy "ruddy fur" when it's just "hardened leather" with a drop of water mixed in?

>>95877294
Either one of our monitors is messed up or your eyes are messed up because hardened leather is way more orange than ruddy fur.

finally learned how to play my first wargame (The Great War in the East: Four World War 1 Battles by SPI)

>>95877543
Congrats! It's a pretty great hobby you've just gotten yourself into. Did you play any games yet?

>>95877538
Yeah my bad mate, I forgot I leave the blue light blocker on 24/7

>>95877549
Yeah, Im doing a solo game with the serbia/russia/austria scenario and it's working a lot better than expected. Also trying to get a friend to learn it.

I think it's a good starting game since theres only infantry/cavalry. No artillery or melee mechanics

>>95869994
As the other anon already said, when it comes to "28mm" miniatures there is some scale fuckery occuring between manufacturers. Even among wargamers there is no agreement, though most would agree it's somewhere between 1/48 and 1/56 and most will simply play with whatever is readily available.

I believe the official reasoning from Warlord for their vehicles being 1/56 is because they wanted to have more room for vehicles on a 6'x4' table.

>>95877260
Couldn't be bothered to order Maize but I had Pastel lying around and gave it a try. It's a really nice yellow, no regrets. So next time you order some paints you can check for this one as an alternative.

I'm really happy with my Crusader Skin but I always dilute it 1:1 with Speedpaint Medium. I can't paint acrylic for shit though so maybe you just have better standards than me.

Technically, what is difference between wash ans speedpaint?
Is it possible to use speedpaint as wash?
(maybe with something added in the paint?)

>>95877974
Washes are meant to shade the recessed, speed paints are meant to paint the whole model and shade the recessed. You can make a speed paint into a wash by heavily watering it down with speed paint medium or even water desu

>>95877974
I don't see why not, just thin it.

>>95877974
>>95878020
Depending on the actual paint in question, you don't even need to thin it in some cases. Some are very subtle as they are by default.

>>95878074
Nah you should still thin it. I even thin regular washes

I have a strong urge to paint Danes for 1813.

>>95876226
>>95876155
There is already a board where you can discuss your dishonest ideology...fascism is just postmodetn reaction, it has no moral centre because it's just paramilitary gangsterism imposing torpor on a nation. You are bandits. Your ideas are a rot.

>>95878674
>racism = fascism
NTA but that's a dumb take anon-kun.

>>95878674
dont have to be a fascist to hate jeets

The Wargames Atlantic foot Afghans are off their site, what's going on with that?

>>95878729
>>95878769
Ah but here's the other thing, they are constantly trying to normalise what they are, by wriggling and squirming and sliming their way into every day conversation.

>Oh you oppose mass immigration, you would make a good Nazi fren
>Oh you don't like modernity, join us
>i'm not a Nazi I'm an esoteric skub merchant
>we actually own vegetarianism, conservation, family values etc depending on convenience

It's just fucking boring because ultimately they can't exist outside of /pol/ - they crumble like vampires in sunlight. They can't gave a conversation without making it /pol/. They're just fucked up.

I can both not want infinityIndians outside my window and appreciate them pitching in to bloody Jerry's nose.

I can be skeptical about globalisation and live conservatively without joining some Wotanist Idealist Clan with all the irrational bullshit that goes with it.

I can paint whatever models I want, and so should anon. Pleasant day, lads

>>95878877
They never did them, just cavalry. Perry does however.

>>95879029
They're genuinely worse than trannies about this. Most trannies don't actually want to talk about being trannies much, whereas nazis and other rightoids can't go fifteen minutes without screaming about how trump will save them from that pajeet they saw once

Neither of which is really relevant to historical wargaming though.

Is Lion Rampant fun? I understand it's on the cinematic side, but that's fine with me.

>>95877974
It's supposed to be a paint, a highlight and a wash at the same time. Before using it you have to shake the bottle so your pigments are evenly distributed. When you apply the paint though the medium will flow over rounded parts and get trapped into recesses. So the rounded parts will dry up with less pigment and be naturally highlighted and recess will end up with more pigment and dry darker.

That's the theory behind it but in practice your results will vary between brands and even colors. If you're a shit painter and don't care to work on your skill this is a nobrainer. If you're a great painter this is one more tool to try and create cool blend effects and whatnot.

>>95879084
Personally I like it, but it's one of those games people seem to love or hate

>>No (You)
Post your Quar or stfu.

>>95879084
The Nazi to tranny pipeline is real and Lion Rampant is a fun game - like all Osprey games it is simple enough that you will have the most fun scaling up the size of your battles by about half and house ruling stuff won't break it.

BY THE WAY DO YOU KNOW WHO ALSO ATE EGGS
OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR ADOLF YEEHAW

(Etc)

>>95878674
>muh fascism
You leftoid freaks are like a broken record

>>95879198
>you guys are CRAZY tilting at windmills
>so anyway I think we can fit this many bodies in the barrel

>>95879029
>>95879084
>>95879189
>whining about Nazis when no one mentioned anything about Nazis
You just proved this anons point >>95876226

>>95879189
Neat. Plus it has the appeal of adding Dragon Rampant if I'm feeling fantasy

>>95879210
>you are, like, playing into my trap maaan

/pol/ is next door. Turn the music down. It sucks.

>>95879217
With all blue books, just go bugger and make shit up because you actually can with that rules light framework.

Pumped to use all my Kings of War stuff with Dragon Rampant.

>>95879210
The cringe "muh Nazi/muh fascism" shit is exactly why so many young men are turning to the right. No, wanting my country to stay MY country and not look like Pakistan doesn't make me a fascist. And if it does? Well then I would prefer to be a fascist over whatever the alternative is

Im kind of surprised that we dont really have anything for cold war stuff, not even a bolt action side game (which id prefer they put the effort of K47 into a cold war bolt action expansion)
It makes sense to do a cold war wargame too, as you can reasonably believe some of the countries fought each other more than like, US vs US or German vs German for bolt action. A lot more vehicle and weapon and tactic variety too. I get that its a little ahistorical to have an actual cold war wargame, but i mean again, id still say less so than some of the bolt action match ups, and its alot easier to believe that some of the cold war stand offs ended up in a skirmish
Plus theres just alot more nations and "your guys" to work with compared to ww2
Whats funny is that rubicon ALREADY has a few of the big name cold war vehicles like the t54 and t55, and the btr. Personally i hope they do a leopard 1 and/or an ru251 next

>>95879344
>id prefer they put the effort of K47 into a cold war bolt action expansion
I'm actually much more interested in Weird War Two than the Cold War

Found my nuln oil. and with that finished my first 3 cavalry. Although, I do agree with the other guy, the yellow on the black and yellow guy doesnt look great. might reapply and use a brown wash instead of a black one.

I really like the blue guy with sleeves in particular, thats my favorite.

>>95879344
Once upon a time, Team Yankee was huge in my neck of the woods. For a couple of years before covid it was practically the only game anyone was playing with regularity. That really begged the question, why do none of the bigger manufacturers (like Warlord, Perry, Victrix etc) sell cold war miniatures? You'd think their artists would get tired of sculpting chain mail and shakos from time to time, at least.

Cold War era uniforms are distinct enough that they could certainly sell quite a few different box sets. I think younger generations are more familiar with recent conflicts than they are with Stamford Bridge and Waterloo, as well. A themed starter set for Vietnam would sell like hotcakes. I'm sure of it The time period seems ripe for the taking.

>>95879036
I have bought and painted a kit of those motherfuckers I know they exist.

The Perry ones are better though, having done both kits. Their turbans don't have edges which the WA ones do.

>>95879344
It's true, id love a Falklands or Rhodesian Bush war rule set. I suspect you could use Force on Force, even though it's a GWOT game, it probably would work perfectly

>>95879520
I've always wanted to play Vietnam, but serious question, who TF wants to play the gooks? No one. It's like playing Zulus, you're just playing the fodder that the other players gets to mow down

>>95879644
There's always contrarians who want to play the other side, but yeah Vietnam gives them basically nothing

>>95879644
It's fun to play the underdog, particularly when they have lots of assymetrical tricks up their sleeve. If you don't want to play hordes then just don't play VC it's that simple. Play the NVA instead.

>>95879644
The Zulus had some victories and used interesting tactical formations. It's like assuming the Mahdists didn't run a sophisticated river based insurgency and just ran at the screw guns waving their swords. The Vietcong is an even less aposite comparison. This is why reading about these periods matters.

>>95879522
They should give me some Japanese so I can do Boxer rebellion and Russo Japanese War.

>>95879782
Also the tech level between both sides went through changes:

The Mahdists were reasonably well equipped with a lot of captured Egyptian kit after nobody was taking them seriously.

But one of the reasons for rhe British expeditions was to end slavery which the Mahdi was reintroducing. So by about the second phase of the war nobody living in the Sudan would sell the Madhists ammunition and they reverted to swords and spears. In the meamtime, the Brits are getting Maxim guns.

Would love to see British naval troops from this era in plastic.

Was also one of the last great cavalry charges, at Omdurman, where Winston Churchill was I believe attached to the Bengal Lancers or somesuch.

>>95879680
Apparently Ho Chi Minh was a big fan of and wanted to adopt a constitution similar to the US but they ignored all of his correspondence.

>Our officer sat at the front with the driver and signalled what he wanted, and the tank would swing round to face the target. The tank would turn on its own in a wide circle, but with two gear changers you could turn it in its own length. The engine was quite powerful and vibrated the machine somewhat, but it was the movement that was worse, up and down, this way and that. I had a job sometimes to set on my target to shoot. I’d just get set and ready to fire, and bang, the tank would lurch somewhere, throw me right off. The targets were the trenches, anywhere we thought there’d be machine gun posts.

>There was no choice but to drive over the dead, you couldn’t pick your way through. If they fell in your way, you had to go over them. We never deviated the tanks for anything except targets. When we went into action, the infantry kept tucked in, clustered behind our tanks for shelter, then as soon as we captured a trench, they took over, going along the line and ferreting the Germans out. I only saw Germans when we got right on the trench, with our guns laid on each side. They had never seen anything like the tank before, and when they saw we were armed with small guns and machine guns, they gave up straightaway. A few of their machine gunners got away and we could see them silhouetted against the sky with their guns on their shoulders, going like hell back to their third lines.

>Private Archie Richards, D Company, Heavy Section, Machine Gun Corps, 1897-1998

>>95880964
What's the lattice on the top of it? Something to detonate shells before impact?

>>95880991
It's a chickenwire cage so that grenades would roll off the roof. You don't see them after the very first use of tanks in Sept 1916 so probably a combination of too delicate and didn't really work I'd imagine

>>95879344
Thinking about it more, it would actually be super easy to do a cold war BA conversion, since its just primarily russian and us tanks, with a few others like the leopard spread across the different nations, and then a few nation specific smaller vehicles
Rubicon already does a kit for the t-54 and 55, the pt-76, and the btr-60, so thats already alot of pretty notable cold war vehicles.They also do a 48 patton, so not far off from the early us MBT's.
i also know there were a ton of nations that just fielded shermans, there were still some chaffee's being fielded for a while too
Most of the weird stuff is exclusive to russia, the US, and germany, and theyre mostly just prototypes too

>>95879680
>>95879644
honestly, just stick to playing 40k on mirrored tables

Printed and painted up some blasted out walls for an eventual Western Desert table

>>95874063
Thanks for sharing. Italy vs. Commonwealth is peak and it's nice to see some variety on the table.

>>95879644
>who TF wants to play the gooks? No one. It's like playing Zulus, you're just playing the fodder that the other players gets to mow down
Only if you're playing a Vietnam game that isn't at all based on history.

A good wargame will be nicely balanced regardless of how asymmetrical the forces are. the NVA/VC may not have helicopters or on-call artillery and air strikes, but they have tunnel networks, intimate knowledge of the area, are stealthy at moving through the terrain, often have local support, are lighter than the US, and made extensive use of booby traps.

Many of the Vietnam engagements I read about that weren't clearing out bunkers consisted of the NVA/VC ambushing US forces, inflicting significant casualties, then attempting to melt into the jungle before the artillery or air strikes showed up. They'd take their casualties with them too so the US couldn't get any body count.
I don't remember reading much about VC/NVA hordes - I'm guessing this is just a way for more basic games to 'balance' things without including any of the non-hardware strengths the VC/NVA possessed.

The US on the other hand were incredibly noisy and undisciplined, which made them a very easy target for ambushes. US LRRPs said they learned more from going on a patrol with ANZACs than they did from most of their training and jungle experience so far.
ANZACs on the other hand were crack jungle experts, and would watch the VC/NVA while remaining hidden.

A good Vietnam wargame will give you a balanced game and a good feeling of how combat in the period went down. I'm guessing a bad game will give you hordes of VC that need to be gunned down as they run at machine guns in the open.

>>95879550
https://www.peterpig.co.uk/Falklands%20master%20Steve%20Avis%20March%202021.pdf%20V4.pdf

>>95879550
>https://mmpgamers.com/goose-green-bagged-p-381
I've been playing this with a friend. It's not a mini game though.

>>95881535
Do you have any recommendations anon? The era sounds very interesting.

>>95879344
I don't want to play cold war conflicts in 28mm and looking around at rules and ranges nobody else does either
Maaaaybe some mercenaries in africa shit but I'm pretty much forcing myself to be interested
The cool shit happens with larger battles imo

>>95882189
The best cold war wargames are found by playing out actual historical war plans from the militaries of the day. Since it never went hot, all the best potential is in the What If.

I understand the Cold War had a lot of hot conflicts in it but none of them appeal to me.

>>95882304
>The best cold war wargames are found by playing out actual historical war plans from the militaries of the day. Since it never went hot, all the best potential is in the What If.
>I understand the Cold War had a lot of hot conflicts in it but none of them appeal to me.
I've got to wonder a bit about somebody not interested in any of the cold war conflicts, asymmetric or near-peer, but I won't argue with that
Your first paragraph though, you'd appear that you'd probably agree with me about 28mm

>>95882394
Very much so, Cold War should be 6mm or Hex & Chit.

Halberstad DII joins the flight.

>>95882493
I bought some 1:72 scale models myself in order to try and appease the normies but in the time they've been sitting in the pile because I've not actually wanted to do 1:72 planes I've redpilled most of them

how's the 6mm stuff treating you?

>>95882501
I really like 6mm stuff. I've got my WWI airplanes now in it, and some Yom Kippur war armor and infantry in it too. They're fast to paint up and pretty pleasant to do so, and I'm impressed at how detailed they are even that small.

I've got 6, 10, and 28mm stuff. I'm pleased with all three scales over all. Each works well for different things.

>>95881535
>ANZAC are the best jungle experts in the world
Hello Lindybeige

>>95881535
Verry interesting
What should I read to understand the way Vietnam War was fought?
Do you know if Lock 'n Load Vietnam is a good simulation?

>>95879503
Current work on cavalry commander. mr. Ingoland.

>>95874111
Looking great anon! What scale are these and did you paint the emblems on or use decals? I'm starting work on some 1:144 scale planes so asking for my own project.

>>95883777
Thanks anon, they're 1/300 scale 6mm airplanes, and lord no I didn't paint the roundels those are decals lol. These are mostly from Luftwaffe 1946 miniatures and I'm really pleased with the quality of them because their product photos are kinda rough, plus some mystery unidentified manufacture airplanes off eBay, I suspect Heroics and Ros but I'm not positive. I've got a bunch of Brits to paint up too and some French in the mail.

>>95871051
6mm is a great scale.

As is 10mm.

All scales are good scales.

>>95885003
>All scales are good scales.

54MM CHADS RISE UP!

>>95885099
>shields on knights/men-at-arms

I thought those had fallen out of fashion by that point.

>>95885099
Based scale chads

>>95885099
Actualy love 54mm
Would do that if I had a 6 x 12 gaming table instead of a 4 footer
The minis are cheap and there are some good quick scenics around
Some sculpts are very Army Men but some are really good like Accurate/A Call To Arms.

>>95885528
6mm tanks start to get a bit less readable for me but 6mm is the only scale where I felt like a really good painter. 10mm and 2mm feel fiddly to me. 15mm has so much choice in quality it's unreal butit's shrinking. 10mm has less negative space than 6mm but like 15mm it can be fiddly to paint,

>>95885423
I think they are Timpo toys. These days you can get Italian Wars stuff in bags, really nice

>>95885528
I would actually do 1/72 if the quality andprices were more consistent. A lotof softplastic manufacturing is done in Eastern Europe soit'sno longer dirt cheap.

If the quality was more consistent they wouldbe alot easiertodo a cursory cleanup. That might be a good thread theme, cheap accessible wargaming... i'm tired of spending hundreds on le serious hobby

>>95885528
1mm represent

>>95882394
>>95882189
>>95882304
OP for the cold war stuff, i PERSONALLY only really like doing 28mm stuff (smallest common scale that each model can feel really individual)
Personally im interested in doing both some of the smaller skirmishes of the cold war (plenty still had vehicles involved) but also yes im also interested in playing out some of the larger scale plans too (My interest in historicals is mostly up to the point to where the units and conflict has historical accuracy, but can include prototypes, vehicles and weapons that werent made but were feasible for the time, and conflicts that COULD have happened but didnt)

If i was gonna check out anything on the smaller end its be team yankee but i REALLY dont like the parkinglot gameplay

I still definitely feel like BA can be converted pretty easily into a Cold War era game, since itd just need some new vehicle stats, some new units, and new nation lists (most of which will either contain us or russian vehicles and variants, just with some nation specifics here and there, and different troops)
Hell i think it'd be easier to do a Cold War ongoing campaign than it would for WW2

>>95885528
looks great anon! im generally a 28mm guy but youre really getting the most out of the limited space for paint!
great job especially on the hetzer (I need to get mine built and painted soon!)

Not done yet, but I think they're starting to look alright

>>95885883
same, I must have bought a good couple of thousand 1/72s over my life and never painted many because they're such a ball ache to get ready

A right proper fur ball starting to develop!
R.F.C Squadron no.4 has arrived! Moraine Saulnier N and a B.E.2.c! D.H.2 soon. The fact that I can bang out 4 airplanes in 4 hours is pretty great.

>>95886782
Nice. Is that for some Williamite action or pirates?

>>95882149
Can look at Boocoo Fire Mission, or maybe Charlie Don't Surf

>>95882857
These are the books I read, start at the top and work your way down:

Platoon Leader
Jungle Dragoon
Comanche 6 - Company Commander in Vietnam
Lasting Visions
Saddle Up
Inside the VC and NVA
Vietnam: The Good times, The Bad Times
To the Limit: An Air Cav Huey Pilot in Vietnam
Nam-Sense: Surviving Vietnam with the 101st Airborne
Silent Heroes: A Recon Marine’s Vietnam War Experience
Undaunted Valor: An Assault Helicopter Unit in Vietnam
Taking Fire: The True Story of a Decorated Chopper Pilot
Sons of Kolchak
Vietnam’s Forgotten Army: Heroism and Betrayal in the ARVN
19 minutes to live
Marines in Hue City
Low Level Hell
Your Sons — My Soldiers — Our War: A Vietnam Commander’s Struggle

>>95882665
Just reporting what I read anon - might have been from the Silent Heroes book, I don't remember, but I do remember the ANZACs being pretty pro - iirc it was from their 12 years of combat in the "Malayan Emergency" from 1948 - 1960.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayan_Emergency

What's the historical tabletop game with the easiest rule set to learn and the smallest number of figures needed? I'm thinking of getting into tabletop games, mostly because I want to build and paint figs. But there doesn't seem to be a community where I'm at.

>>95888539
De Bellis Antiquitatis (simplish, low model count)
Or
One Hour Wargames (simpler, slightly higher model count)
Or maybe Lion Rampant and its stablemates
Or Fisftful of Lead (I hate this rule set but it's like 5 figs a side)

>>95888539
Any skirmisher you like. 5 men at kursk comes to mind.

>>95888539
En garde is alright, you can do anything from 1v1 duels to small skirmishes
>>95887248
Pirates, going to use these guys as a generic euro/spanish force, I have a small dismounted dragoon unit yet to paint and some Monmouth rebels I'll use as militia
Loads of figures out there for pirates, I was going to go with wargames foundry but there's good stuff in other places too
Eventually I'd like to get some natives, maybe do barbary and Chinese pirates too

Is Barons' Wars really that fucking good or is WGA simply bluffing out of their ass when they say they had to halt selling them due to insane demand?

>>95889392
It's not the first time WGA outsold their initial stock allotment for a product, it happened with Quar as well. I think they just expect these products/starter sets with rules to sell as much as their normal boxes do and prepared accordingly, only to find out that these things can sell wildly better.

>>95889392
>>95889410
Over at Dakkadakka Hudson wrote that they re-ordered a large amount of dice for the next batch of Barons Wars boxes. So i think those additional "game components" are their bottleneck. Kinda understandable to try to stay on the safe site and not overstock on dice and books when you want to sell miniatures.

But it really seems they are learning.

>>95889410
Funnily enough I bought my last kit from them, more /awg/ - the town guards set...

When I say last kit I mean I have frostgrave stuff, stargrave, kings of war and a little bit of napoleonocs to get through. I'd love to do dark ages but more wales versus mercia or vikings in ireland than anything else so not 100% fussed by the victrix "just use irish as welsh" option, would rather hold off. Rediscovering old rules sets I had written off. Honestly between fantasy and sci fi and blackpowder skirmish and loads of hex and counter and a few rpgs to run I'm good for now.

A friend of mine used to shit on ffol and i did here roo but I dug iut the books andntheybare great. He was a contributor and had sour grapes I think

So will be using those and that means having to buy even fewer models. Maybe one day I will do Mithridatic versus Marian, good mix of troops there.

>>95889410
>>95889423
Makes sense.
How is the game itself though?

>>95889423
I really don't mind reading about the Baron's War, I really enjoyed a documentary I will try and dig out about it and I even love that medieval tech level of reinforced mail and kettle helms. But for the life of me I can't get excited about Baron's War for some reason. I think if I saw them done up as Crusaders against a Mamluk option or at Bouvines it would click with me idk. I feel the same way about the Wars of the Roses, really interesting for me to reas about it...but wargame idk?

Now, the Italian Wars, or English Civil War on the other hand...

>>95889484
barons war HAS an Outremer supplement, but its not in the 2nd edition stuff since 2nd ed just came out

>>95889392
No Barons War is pretty lackluster, and I am something of an expert in medieval skirmish games. Barons Wars author just partnered with WGA so it got shilled by the latest big name on the block.

finished with current section of my cavalry force. 4 heavy knights and 2 mounted archers.

Enough for a game of war of the ring! or something else that does cavalry in 2's and 4's

>>95886815
Good job on the little guys anon. You're making me want to start painting my WW1 planes but I really need to get some other shit out of the way first.

>>95891347
I haven't enjoyed a project to this degree in a long time. I've got quite a few more to paint and I look forward to getting home and back at it.

Germany: Fokker EII,. Halberstad DII, Avitak CI, Rumpler Taube, Roland CII, Pfalz DIIIa, Roland DII, A.E.G G.IV.

United Kingdom: Moraine Saulnier N, D.H 2, B.E.2C, Sopwith Tabloid

France: Moraine Saulnier N, Nieuport 10c, Nieuport 17, Voisn V, Spad A2.

I wish I could find a Moraine Saulnier L parasol..

Maybe some Austria Hungry, Italians, and Russians later. So many tiny airplanes, so affordable and fun to paint.

>>95891593
What system are you going to use them for?

>>95893324
I don't know. I have a couple of ideas. I've got a friend whose suggested taking FFOL Starfighters and converting it to WWI with some autism. I looked at the rules we had in the trove but didn't like them. I've been debating ordering Hostile Aircraft 2e and seeing how that is. I'm not too worried though because unfortunately these are all going to get painted up and maybe see one or two games before I'm gone for 6 months. I'll play with what works for now, and find a decent hard and crunchy rule set when I get home.

I really want these niggas, but I cant justify to myself the doubled price due to shipping to the US.

>>95893531
Archie pulls it off looks fun. Or maybe it was Algie? It's the WW1 lardies airgame.

>>95868951
Thanks for keeping the flame alive with these intros anon, really enjoying them. If I catch the thread dead I'll make sure to do one myself.

>>95871051
>Not buying boardgames and replacing all the counters and chits with perfectly modelled 6mm miniatures.
You're never going to make it.

>>95874111
These look great anon. I'm always tempted to get into tiny planes, especially Cold War/ Ultramodern ones, but have no real idea where to start. One of the Toms at my local club did a massive WW1 plane game that he wrote himself that was great fun, but used airfix planes so took up nearly half the room.

>>95893958
I'll research it, thanks for the suggestion.
>>95893973
Give it a go anon. My planes are Luftwaffe 1946 miniatures. They're cheap, they're a plenty, and the maker has WWI, WWII, cold war and modern, and flight stands and decals. Maybe pick up a few to paint and see if you like them.

Do any of you anons play wargames from Wargames Vault? It's an indie storefront from the same people that do DriveThruRPG.

>>95894789
who cares about storefronts?

and by "indie" do you just mean "smaller"?

>>95894811
It's a store where a huge number of indies publish their stuff. Some of the more mainstream names too, but also a LOT of one-man studios.

Only had time tonight to get two Roland CII done. Escorted by a Halberstadt though it wasn't uncommon for the "Walfisch" to escort other Walfisch. I have one more to do. Might be my favorite 2 seater of the war. I'm not thrilled with the purple and green camo but oh well, the goal is to have them all different in some way, and it's a historical scheme.

Cold War Americans coming out soon

>>95894789
Didn't realise you crossposted that otherwise I would have answered you here.

Looking at doing Tom Jensen's (Ostfront publishing) Boocoo Fire Mission in the future, he looks to have squeezed the most out of a Vietnam wargame. Smart man, under-rated rules writer.

>>95893973
>Thanks for keeping the flame alive with these intros anon, really enjoying them. If I catch the thread dead I'll make sure to do one myself.
It unfortunately ran down when I had a string of shifts, but I got the bulk of it done when I struggled to sleep and it was just a matter of finessing it after work.

If I'm going away somewhere I'll try and mention it a good amount of time before the end of the next thread; but for a list of reasons which would probably be boring, I am very time rich at the moment, with few distractions.

Got a shot of everything I've accumulated since diving back into Bolt Action. I think I'm set for a while

>>95897469
No valentine :(

>>95897680
Would it be very different from my Matilda in gameplay?

I actually have a Cromwell coming in a trade, no clue how that will fit in.

>>95897757
>Would it be very different from my Matilda in gameplay?

No, but superior in style.

>>95897757
I don't know, I don't play BA. The valentine is just cool and doesn't get enough love.

Bolt Action is a shit game for tournament players. Play chain of command instead

>>95898697
>tournament players
You're not a real historical Wargamer if you're trying to play "tournaments"

>>95898697
No, you've got it backwards. Bolt Action is shit because it's ahistorical and its playerbase are a bunch of powergaming tourneyfags with 40kiddie mindsets ( because the rules are designed to be "competitive" according to the designers), whereas Chain of Command is better for the sake that it's simply trying to be as accurate as it can while also being fun to play.

>>95899001
Agreed, which is why my local Bolt Action scene isn't real historical wargaming.

>>95890930
The Barons war was already big before Wargames Atlantic decided to make mediocre minis for it. Sticking to my metals.

>>95899356
>mediocre minis
That about sums up WGA

>>95899294
>No, you've got it backwards.
He's trying to say that BA is a shit game for tournament players and not that BA is a shit game for tournament players.

>>95899543
I wrote Andy directly and asked for resin or plastic horses and shields years ago. Instead I got monkey-pawed with those really average and mediocre early 2000's intern sculpts from Wargames Atlantic.

not done much today but painted a bit of the militia yesterday
still not sure what colour to paint the dismounted dragoons, maybe white
might get more cavalry at a later date, but I've not even ordered any pirates yet, want to make sure these all get properly done so I don't add to the pile of shame

>>95898697
>>95899294
That's okay, it's fun.

>>95898697
>>95899001
>>95899294
At least you boring faggots are loudly agreeing with each other rather than shitting up the broader thread this time.

>>95900841
I can forgive so much when a game is fun, honestly.

>>95899001
Idk tourrnaments seem to keep some games going like DBA and Triumph!

A lot of that is people have 15mm armies with 40mm frontage. But they are probably of a certain vintage. It's probably gonna be more lik 28mm on a 60mm or 80mm these days.

There is also a fairly big Impetus scene. And ADLG

>>95894786
Let me know what you think, since I really liked reading Through the mud and the blood and I hope they put the same level of cool into their aero games.

Also, do the plane bases let you pivot the planes or not? some of them look kind of like they're at an angle which is cool.

>>95900841
So is chain of command, which is more historically accurate in its rules and mechanics.

>>95902036
I like Lardies but I would introduce a new player via bolt action over coc

>>95902006
I'll let ya know anon. As for the bases the planes are freely movable and removable on them, just a pin sticking out of the top of the stand that goes into a 1/16 hole drilled in the bottom of the bird.

>>95902036
Yeah but there's a local group of 15ish people playing Bolt Action and zero playing Chain of Command, I'm new to it, and if I show up telling people to switch games to this other one they'll think I'm a dick. And be right.

>>95902194
You don't have to tell people to switch games. Just "hey, do you want to try this ruleset? You can use your warlord minis, it's designed with that in mind"

The Walfisch flight is complete. I really love these little airplanes, the Roland CII is very high on my list of favorite airplanes. Yes, the tan whale has a face, it was very common for crews to paint faces in their CII, and even curtains in the side windows (those black boxes) but that's a bit beyond my scope right now. Introduced early in 1916, she was the fastest airplane in the German air service at the time and could out run most entente fighters. Recon, artillery spotting, light bombers, they'd escort themselves with their synchronized forward firing spandau and rear turret. Poor visibility to their underside would be their greatest weakness, and entente pilots learned they could attack from below, outside of the arc of their rear turret. The British Ace Albert Ball (44 victories, VC, DSO, and MC) would score his first victory against a CII with this method.

More great war action shots playing trench hammer. Fun project, waiting for some field guns and a Mark I to arrive this week to finish the set

>>95902908
Here is one mid game. Germans easily repelled the British with their HMG despite the prelim bombardment. British need more firepower

>>95902936
Oi careful, those boys are going to fall right out of that trench!

>>95902703
What's the point if both games are fun?

>>95897469
Hell yeah anon, these are looking great!

I have desert Brits at a slightly different scale...

>>95897946
>Matilda not different to Valentine
does the game not take armor into account at all?

>>95899001
Imagine a game that is balanced, historically accurate, with minimal bias, and has a map campaign system built in. Map-based tournament with free-form diplomacy would be boss af

>>95903676
I just checked because I forgot till now. The Matilda and Valentine are both Medium Tanks (damage value 9) in Bolt Action terms, but the Matilda II has a light anti tank gun where the Valentine XI has a medium AT with the good 75mm HE shell. So, decent difference. They both have the Slow the rule that limits them ti the same speed as infantry though.

>>95903676
>balanced
>historically accurate
Pick one

>>95904480
im definitely not a fan of BA having all vehicles move the same speed, and its only changed by fast or slow special rules, but that still means theres only 3 speeds.
Also not a fan of the armor rating system but atleast with that one i can see its for ease of play and to not take long

>>95904691
The armor rating feels like the best that can easily be managed long as they're committed to a D6 system. Personally I'd have moved to heavy weapons rolling a D10 so we could have more granularity in armor, but I get the impulse to pick one die and stick to it.

>>95904691
What is wrong with the BA armor rating system? I played BA 2e and really loved the tank/armor rating system, it reminded me a lot of 3/4e Warhammer 40k, which was Warhammer prime.
That being said, I haven't played any other games to compare it to.
Can you tell me how Chain of Command has a better armor system? I'm genuinely curious and have been interested in CoC for awhile, but not sure if I want to commit to learning another set of rules

>>95904749
I don't know about much other wargames, but from real world knowledge, Bolt Action's system just isn't very detailed. There was a lot of difference between the armor of a KV-1, a Pershing, and a Panther, but Bolt Action classes all three as Heavy Tanks with a bespoke rule or two.

But yeah, it reminds you of old Warhammer because it was very definitely modeled on it.

>>95904891
Yeah but, how much granularity should a game really have? Do you really think it's beneficial to have a completely different profile for every single tank that existed in WW2? That just sounds like rules bloat, when all wargaming rules are is an approximation of battlefield abilities

>>95905036
I like Bolt Action's system and only occasionally find myself wishing for more granularity, but there's always going to be War Thunder types who want to be able to aim for a specific weak spot. Though it felt really weird last week playing a game and concluding that my M3 Grant had done a good job, even if it was just up against Italians.

>>95899936
Between the fact that /hwg/ complains about both WGA and Victrix, and that true grognard hates 3dprinting too, where are people supposed to source miniatures from to appease the five or so tryhard trvecel historical gods left on Zimbabwean clay shaping forum? Resin miniatures from v&v for mere 5 bucks a piece?

>>95905036
Frankly I don't really care about the differences in mm between the tanks, and it has enough special rules for the various types that I can live with it (My Comet counts as a medium tank, but when you target the front, it counts as a heavy tank because they over-armored the front)

I appreciate how broad-stroke the system is. My only complaint is how short the weapon ranges are. Something like Blood and Valor's Effective Range/Extreme Range would be a welcome addition, where a weapon is most accurate super close but can still be fired at long ranges with increasing difficulty. SMGs and pistols are basically melee weapons.

>>95906551
You are supposed to buy metal minis ofc.

>>95895224
Don't forget to give at least one a face.

>>95902775
>>95907022
Well, i guess i should have read the complete thread before commenting...

>>95907022
>>95907031
>Mfw
Lol I don't know how well you can see it but it's there!

I've been going through ebay and there's so many weird 1/300 planes from long dead companies. I'm debating scooping up some late war airplanes in ones and twos and make a small post war collection, maybe for some Polish Soviet war stuff, or Baltic revolutions. I want a reason to have Fokker D.VIII flying razors and SSW D.IVs. Do I consider 1918 flying circus vs hat in the ring? Or go for a hodgepodge mess of 1920s airwar?

Fuck, I need to finish my current project first, but it's fun to plan.

Is there a Battlegroup Bagration pdf available? I'm planning a soviet partisan battlegroup but my copy of the book has not arrived yet

>>95881535
I'd agree with you but frankly some of the engagements I've read about like LZ X-Ray included literal hordes of VC throwing themselves at the Americans while being strafed and shot to shit by artillery, pinning down the Americans despite the commanders throwing everything they have at the enemy.

Some of these engagements are anomalies, but I've read enough to know that wargaming scenarios where smaller detachments of US forces are holding off VC hordes trying to escape into Cambodia or hold a hill while inflicting massive casualties on the Americans is entirely historically accurate. More to the point, no one wants to wargame a jungle patrol that gets shot at once and then loses six more guys to booby traps after they try to sweep the bunker and hideout complexes the VC just abandoned. I'd rather play a setpiece battle like X-Ray.

>>95879344
Why the fuck would you want to play a Cold War game when the forces were so hilariously imbalanced? Who wants to play some barely trained guerillas with RPGs against some chucklefuck with an entire motorized rifle division that can wipe out a squad with a single autocannon burst?

>>95907128
There's a shitton of obscure WW1 planes almost no one knows today, let alone makes model kits of. Consider my surprise when i discovered a 1/72 AGO two-seater.

>>95907205
>1/72 AGO two-seater.
Oh dang, what the C.IV? That's really cool.
I found a Hansa Brandenburg W.29 and while looking for schemes saw this Estonian job and that got me thinking about something post great war.

>>95907464
>Latvian, excuse me excuse me.

>>95903380
Some games are more fun than others anon. Otherwise we'd all still be playing "hit grug in head with rock" or, even worse, monopoly.

>>95907193
Because victory will be all the sweeter. Plus advantages like knowing the terrain, setting up in ambush, etc, or just having MORE DUDES. Absolutely mulching American forces with some hidden, dug in T72s, or some RPGs hidden in a town, never gets old.

>>95904749
bro i havent played CoC i wasnt even comparing it to anything i just dont like how limited the armor rating system is even if it ends up WORKING fine
It makes tanks that historically had majorly different armors end up feeling the same on tabletop
Im not saying BA SHOULD be more granular, but i would have atleast liked a few more armor related rules to actually represent more of the differences in armor
And im mostly just pointing out that while in practice it works fine but it just makes alot of tanks end up feeling similar when they have nothing in common

anyone know if there is a later period suplement for barons war? or else something else that has rules for late 100 years war of roughly platoon size, that is c. 30 men each side.

Always really liked that general game scale. You have enough units for combined arms and separate groups, but still low enough that each model feels like they are doing something. Also just so happens to be a good scale to depict an indivigual lords retinue and is the rough amount a commander could control in detail.

Whats the best SPI game for ww1?

Opinions on using fantasy miniatures for historical games? Would you object to a few hobbits mixed in to some agincourt bowmen, or some funny little marginalia creatures alongside cavalry?

>>95909328
It would quietly annoy me but I wouldn't object out loud

>>95909328
All my historicals are Hollywood historicals
I have, at least in 28mm, a limit of 2 boxes of minis a side
Fantasy rank and flank and pulp scenarios like "redcoats vs lizardmen" are not uncommon here
Probably more /awg/ if you're doing more than using them as base filler ie they affect the game. Probably an opportunity to really lean into the Book of Kells type illustration. I certainly paint things in a dramatic cartoony way because that's just what I know

>>95904749
>>95905036
I wish bolt action had flames of wars approach with every tank having its own front and side armor rating so the panther can have its thick front armor but not have the side armor of a heavy tank without needing to consult some special rule instead of it just being written right there as a number. Also I find it weird the IS-2 isn't listed as a super heavy tank despite having only 30mm less front armor than the king tiger being the 3rd thickest front armor of any tank behind the king tiger and jagdtiger and having the thickest side armor of any tank during the war.

>>95909977
Going to 40k style armor profiles for tanks wouldn't be a bad idea. A Sherman would have 9 Front, 8 Side, 7 Rear, while a Grant mk 1 would have 9 front, 7 side, 6 rear because of the riveted armor.

But they seem to prefer a single damage value on the profile with us having to remember facings and special rules

>>95909977
yeah i def think implementing a FoW style armor approach would be ideal without bogging the game down (If it works for FoW, it should work for BA since theres ALOT less vehicles than in FoW)

>>95910048
the funny thing is that functionally they DO have that, but its just behind a few special rules and in a more limited way than in FoW. Which at that point doing it more like FoW would just make more sense instead of having to memorize more limiting special rules
Also i think Achtung Panzer literally has that, definitely wish that BA took that for 3rd edition

>>95909328
Great idea, it could be fun, especially if you give them some submachine gun or flamethrower.
Rules are the main thing in historical war games. So, please, don't use a Warlords set, they are too related to W40K and can't give an historical feeling and result.

>>95911332
did you realise you hadn't mentioned how much warlord sucks today? do you have a quota or do you start shaking like a junkie when you haven't

>>95909328
yes, that's silly
t. plays fantasy

>>95911403
Didn't you realize the completely grotesque nature of the message?
Do you know what irony is?

Where to go for European Theater Germans (heer/panzer grenadier) 28mm infantry, with intent to use in Bolt Action/Chain of Command? Warlord's veteran germans, victrix, crusader miniatures?

>>95911989
Do you think you are funny, boomer?

>>95913383
Warlords veteran Germans are 39-41, Victrix are late war

Question for the real button counters, would these work as regular French zouaves for Franco Prussian war? I had an idea of buying some Perry plastics. The Prussian set is versatile with Landwehr caps and there are Bavarians but the Fremch sets seem a bit more limited.

I mean, the likelihood of this being a Minie kind of rifled musket, still muzzle loaded is high. But it really doesn't look that different from the French Chassepot breech loader...

current English army sans 2 crossbowmen and banners im still working on.

I was thinking about using oathmark as a ruleset due to its 10 men average unit size and its feudal realm buildup mechanic between battles. problem is, I dont think anyone has a medieval or fantasy army where I live. No one at the local library gamenight seems to.
sad :(

Can someone point me towards some guides on painting unit markings and stuff for Japan in WW2. I want to theme my guys around the liberation of the Philippines but I have no idea what markings would be appropriate for the units that were involved.
>t. warhammerlet

>>95913983
Nice work. Where are you based out of?

>>95915293
I am from Stuttgart

>>95915009
Okay, good choice. You have two main flavors of jap for 1945 Philippines, IJA or SNLF. References for both can be found in the trove, under WWII>osprey>men at arms> Japanese Army 1941-1945 books 1 and 2, and the Special Naval Landing Force book. They're not perfect references but they'll get you started.

>>95915358
Thank you I'm genuinely retarded for not checking that myself.

>>95913983
banner boys
>>95915293
one of the islands off of Massachusetts. Also, thanks!

>>95913383
>>95913796
Maybe add some Artizan / Empress metal minis, they are quite nice.

>>95907464
>what the C.IV?
Yes.

Do you guys know a good book on the knights templar? Would like decent historical reference on their organization, how to paint them etc.
>>95913949
The ACW zouaves are much smaller compared to the newer FPW minis.

>>95915909
My nigga!
I bought that W.29. Talk me out of buying more late war birds now that my 1915 collection is 2/3 finished.
>My French haven't arrived yet. They must be having a smoke break.

>>95906551
I think the victrix medievals look good, sadly the scale is all over the place.

>>95915715
army with banners

think the knights should have had henrys banner and the footmen with st georges cross, but oh well.

1915 British. They've got a Sopwith Tabloid coming from Heroics and Ros.

1915 Germans. They don't have anything coming for them. Though who knows what I'll find.

1916 Germans. They have an A E.G. G.IV coming for them. Debating getting a Fokker DIII, and maybe some Albatross DII.

1916 British D.H.2 and I need to decide on a two seater. FE2b maybe?1915 and 1916 French, Nieuport 10c and 17, Spad A2 and Voisn V in the mail.

1917 German extra/oops what do I do with them included 3 Pfalz DIIIa and and a Roland DII.

>>95917026
>>95917034
>>95917057
These are fantastic. You probably have already mentioned but what system are you planning on using? Also not really well versed on air combat in WWI, what are the best periods for good balance if I was just going to dial in on a handful of aircraft?

>>95917081
Thanks anon! Just to get them on the table I'm going to be using FFOL Starfighters and autism to convert it over into something acceptable for now. Other than that I'm planning on getting Hostile Aircraft and seeing how that is. I have never played any tabletop air battles before so I'm still figuring that aspect out and researching different systems.

As for best periods? Great question, the air war was very back and forth swingy and there isn't really a good generally balanced period as each side was ascendent over the other briefly before losing the edge with rapidly advancing technology. That being said you can't go wrong with 1917 Sopwith Camels vs Fokker Dr.I triplanes, an iconic and pretty equal match up. Or 1918 Fokker D.VII vs Spad XIII, some of the best planes flown by both sides are the end of the war.

>>95917156
Cheers for the tips. Only played a homebrew before, simultaneous movement made it a fun party game.

>>95915934
Xursory research suggests people are makimg units of zouaves with the updated FPW arms and backpacks. Scale not an issue...

>>95917156
Your minis are looking amazing anon, great to see more people getting interested in WW1 air combat.

I wrote and used these rules way back when I was doing WW1 - my first air combat rules, which eventually evolved into Lacquered Coffins (WW2), then Missile Threat (modern). They should be pretty legit to get started with, balance of simplicity and some crunch with representing the performance of each aircraft, which had observer MGs and which were pushers etc. Should cover all the aircraft you have. Even has rules for Zeppelins, observation balloons, reconnaissance, bombing and air defense from the ground.

(for some reason 4chan not accepting the PDF...)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-OhmjQVsXNdgZilf_BOMazJjs9AvaUTF/view?usp=sharing

Anyone know who makes good 15mm ultra modern miniatures? Ie. Ukraine war or Syrian Civil War? Thanks niggas

>>95918397
Special Artizan Service has some 15mm ultramodern Ukrainians and Russians.

https://specialartizanserviceminiatures.com/collections/15mm-modern

>>95918397
Khurasan Miniatures.

Took me ages to get the habit's ivory tinted beige just right. I'm not too fond of the pure white people tend to paint templars but I do paint the shields and tabards a bright white. These minis from Footsore are more suited for the hospitallers since I believe that the templars abandoned the habit around the third and fourth crusade.

I am looking for SETTING THE EAST ABLAZE 3rd edition. Since it's supposed to be the FINAL edition lol, it's the last PDF we'll ever need.

Anybody know any, other than Wargames Atlantic, late WW1 germans in .stl? Preferably multipart.

>>95869977
Too soon

>>95918992
These are perfect, thanks bro. Really cool they even have chechens, and they cover the IDF/Gaza shit too. It's like they specialize in controversial conflicts

>>95918369
Oh that's awesome! Thank you anon, I appreciate it. I look forward to reading these, you're an ace of aces!

>>95919729
I have never seen any Setting the East Ablaze in PDF. But thats good to know, I have two scenarios in one of its new scenario companion books. I really need to reach out to Bob Giglio again and see what his progress has been.

Painted this 251/8 for my late war germans (for Battlegroup).I already have a platoon of volksgrenadiers, a couple of tank hunters and some volksturm+command elements. Next will be some supply vehicles and maybe some more volkssturm.

My 2022 Russian VDV coming along nicely. Almost finished up with these guys then I'll move on to the Ukrainians.

Why are there no rulesets where your guys can go prone on the open field? Every ruleset just treats open terrain as zero cover, but from my time as an infantryman I know that going prone in the grass makes you pretty hard to hit, especially at range. It would be simple to have a rule where you can go prone and get a small cover bonus but with a penalty to movement or something, idk

>>95919729
Please, buy and upload it.
Thanks

>>95920707
What company makes those russians? I thought I saw empress miniatures advertising them at one point but now I can't find them.

>>95921528
Apex28 is a Russian company that makes Russian troops from various periods, idk if you can ship them internationally.
I bought them from Empress, but I ran into the same problem you did. I emailed Empress and asked them why they were on their shop one day and removed the next day. They told me it's because they have a very limited supply so they take them off the website when they're not at work so they don't accidentally oversell more than they have stock for.

>>95921815
That camo is actually insane someone painted that

>>95919712
>>95920630
>>95920707
What's the deal with all the incels itt being obsessed with playing bad guys?

>>95921876
It's hard to play wargames without someone playing the "bad guys".

I, as many do, have both sides of a conflict.

>pic related, Saxons and Normans

>>95921958
What is this, a game for ants?

>>95921876

Bad bait.

My on medieval heraldry creation. I think its pretty authentic looking. 3 stars ofc represent the trinity, but also the three wise men. The water represents baptism, but also Jesus's water affinity as a fisher of men, walking on water, etc.

might want to make the stars bigger.

>>95921876
That's always been a big problem in the historical community, it attracts a lot of Nazi sympathizer and other undesirables. You really have to take the good with the bad. I notice it seems to be a bigger problem on the US and UK, it's not as bad here in Canada

>>95922050
A few years ago I was lucky enough to have a GCSE class small enough to make modelling the battle of Hastings make sense.

It's 6mm because it needs to fit easily into a classroom with quick set up and take down.

>>95920707
Are they based on pennies?

>>95922624
mine shielded front row.

>>95923215
Yes. I wanted to use 20mm bases instead of the usual 25mm bases for ultramodern wargaming so I can better similar CQB in tight spaces if needed, but I didn't have any 20mm circles on hand so I used these since pennies are 19mm. Close enough, but noticeably smaller than a 20mm. I'm just using them temporarily until I order some 20's, but idk I kind of like them being so small. I think I'll always use 20mm circles over 25mm from now on.
I kind of regret basing hundreds of WOTR figures on 25mm rounds, if I did 20 they would have been in much tighter formations.

>>95923473
you should have clipped the plastic base off lad

>>95922624

For authenticity, you should also give thought to how a given arms would be blazoned. This is how I would do that with your example, to the best of my ability:
>Azure, in base three bars wavy argent, in chief three estoiles of four points 1 and 2 of the last

>>95902936
Mark I done

>>95924464
Why does my shit keep getting rotated

>>95924471
Phones use metadata to track orientation. 4chan automatically strips metadata from uploads and defaults to a landscape orientation. You can avoid this by taking pictures in landscape to begin with, or by cropping the photo slightly (which produces a new file without metadata to worry about)

>>95924352
>Azure, in base three bars wavy argent, in chief three estoiles of four points 1 and 2 of the last
that's sick.
I knew there was a specific verbiage for heraldry, but I dont know it very well, thanks for doing that! I was really just following the metal and color general rule.

>>95921815
>Apex28 is a Russian company that makes Russian troops
Do they also have assault Ladas, golf mobiles and donkeys?

>>95868663 (OP)
I fucking love 15mm WW2, will FoW EVER be good again?

>>95924170
Like I said, they're temporary bases, also theirs metal, also you won't see them once I texture the bases

>>95924906
I can't actually think of any bases that cost less than one cent each. Nice idea.

>>95924950
Pennies are pretty common bases in the UK, but I have discovered steel disks off aliexpress are peanuts and pretty good for magnetising ranked troops in sabots.

>>95924768
I recommend "Disposable Heroes" by Iron Ivan Games (Now Brigade Games). Best WW2 15mm I have ever played.

>>95924768
You have to make the changes yourself.

My personal mid-war homebrews while playing with dynamic points
All soviet infantry get 3+ saves (4+ saves was retarded and made them unplayable)
Soviet hero infantry and storm groups get veteran skill rating (battle hardened veterans have a worse skill rating than fresh german conscripts?)
Last stand tests must also be taken when a unit takes 50% casualties
Enemy tanks block line of sight
Add +1 AT to grenades thrown by infantry in assaults (even the most heavily armored tank got taken out by AT grenades its just that AT grenades have a short as fuck range)
Overworked only applies its penalty when shooting at long range (T-34s in kursk had trouble engaging targets at range so the most effective strategy was the move in close to hit more accurate shots and valentines were meant to be moving alongside infantry while stuarts and crusaders were meant to move in after breakthroughs but moving them causes them to be practically worthless)
We also added in options for soviets to field T-28s, KV-2s, BT-7s, and T-26s because they used them all up until 1942, the T-26 was even used in stalingrad but not in the stalingrad soviet book and they still had over 3000 BT-7s in service after 1941 and have no tanks cheaper than a T-34 like how the US can use lees or germans panzer IIIs and its just wierd that the finnish can use half those tanks but not the actual soviets. Additionally we don't use any mid-war monsters besides the ones used in actual combat like the dicker max, T-43, and the P-26.

Late-war my group adjusts alot of AT, point and armor values, far too many to list here.

I'm surprised that with the move to multi-platoon forces being the standard, Bolt Action didn't require a separate order die pool for each platoon. That would've been an interesting limit on what activates when and been a way to sell us more dice. I bet they tested this idea and decided against it though.

>>95921864
There are decals for those type of camo patterns for miniatures. No clue if it was used here, but it's a possibility.

>>95925433
How many mm is a UK penny?

>>95924617

After doing a bit more research, the second part can be further simplified to "in base the sea proper." And yeah, blazonry is almost like a programming language. And it can get wild, too; here's the blazon for Richard "the Kingmaker" Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick, which I'm dreading having to paint on a 28mm miniature:
>Grand quarterly: first, quarterly i and iv, Beauchamp (gules, a fess or between six cross crosslets of the last); ii and iii, Newburgh (chequy azure and or, a chevron ermine); second, quarterly i and iv, Montagu (argent, three fusils conjoined in fess gules); ii and iii, Monthermer (or, and eagle displayed vert beaked and membered gules); third, Neville (gules, a saltire argent), a label compony argent and azure (Beaufort); fourth, quarterly i and iv, de Clare (or, three chevronels gules); ii and iii, Despenser (subquarterly i and iv, argent; ii and iii, gules, a fret or; over all a bend sable)

>>95920630
15mm? Where do you get the minis from? Looks great btw

>>95926090
20.3
2p is 25.9
A little awkward but steel

>>95926090
20.3mm diameter, 1.65mm thick

>>95927574
>>95926857
Ah shame, just a tad too big to fit into a 20mm movement trays. I guess the 19mm American penny is superior in that regard

Bolt Action lets me take two Bren LMGs in a single British army section of ten men. When is this appropriate to do, historically? Alternately, any recommendation for a book I could read to find out?

>>95926526
jesh anon, it looks like his save data was corrupted

new sheild.
yellow green heraldic colors split diagonally behind with a white diagonal cross center.
might e the white cross to red so it contrasts more.

And yes I know my paint was too thick, was scared of bleeding.

>>95926526
wow, if you do that I will be thoroughly impressed.

>>95927800
Update: Per some websites I read, it was an ad hoc thing in the late war. Have some terrain I've painted up for my Western Desert stuff for the trouble.

>>95926526
Something I did here >>95923406 for the more complex sheild with john plantagenet's banner was that I printed it out on printer paper first, glued it on to the sheild, then traced over it in paint. Depending on what you are putting it on, that might be a good option.

>>95927996
Don't make it red, it will be too similar to William Marshal who is famously English. White cross was the symbol of the French soldiers in the HYW, red cross is decidedly English.

>>95928041
This IS for an English army (I know sleeves over armor was more of a French thing, but I wanted some variety)

Maybe the marshal reference would be nice anyways. Though the stricted rules of heraldry would prefer a metal Argent to contrast the colors. But that can be broken.

>>95928086
The red cross that is shaped like an X instead of a + is very Burgundian style, if I saw it on a shield I would personally think it's meant to represent a Burgundian and not an Englishman. I would leave it while, but really you do what you want

>>95928117
Werent burgundians allied with the english at the time of agincourt? I would expect a few to be there if so.

also, since I have heraldry on the mind I recognized that of the models with explicit heraldry coincidentally nearly exactly half of them are real and half are made up.

>>95928185
Enjoying this (good) autism. It's gotta help with games too.

Ugh really coming to the conclusion that for me fantasy, dark ages, sci fi and a lor of 19th century stuff are more rhan enough for me to crsck on with. Would love to do Italian Wars, some good Perry boxes for that. You can branch into that or WOTR because English bowmen and condottieri foot knights had plenty of paid work up to the end of the century

>>95928185
Yes but there were not any Burgundians present at Agincourt. The Burgundians rarely, if ever, fought alongside the English in open battle during the early 15th century. They both fought against the French crown but their actions were generally independent

>>95930783
fair enough. Though with the complexity of land holdings in different places during this time, I think I could see it. more likely then a white cross anyways, but I think ill hold off for now.
current progress.

>>95931511
fug

>>95927757
they do work in mine from Warbases, just changed to the steel disks due to supply .3mm ain't much

mr. blue and red is sir william Philip. irl guy. cant tell due to size constraints but the little yellow figure on the shield is interesting. a falcon or a bird of some kind with a lion's head. wonder if there is a name for it?

Spose I'd better start on the next thread soon, brb

fresh baked
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>>95928019
coming together pretty nicely