Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:51:31 PM No.95877245
What is the correct phylogeny of fantasy races?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:53:51 PM No.95877258
>>95877245 (OP)
Entirely depends on the setting. This thread is bad and low-effort and you should feel bad.
Entirely depends on the setting. This thread is bad and low-effort and you should feel bad.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:55:29 PM No.95877269
>>95877258
Sorry for the hyperbole then. What is the evolutionary history of the races and creeds in your setting?
Sorry for the hyperbole then. What is the evolutionary history of the races and creeds in your setting?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:06:49 PM No.95877329
>>95877245 (OP)
In my mind, Rocks would be a distant relation to dragons stemming from feathered Dragons.
In my mind, Rocks would be a distant relation to dragons stemming from feathered Dragons.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:08:39 PM No.95877338
Hobbits are just a very short ethnic group of humans. They're like white pygmies.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:12:55 PM No.95877353
>>95877245 (OP)
Hobbits and Gnomes are related to Dwarves. Hobbits being shaped by the vicinity to Humans and Gnomes due to their proxity to the Feywild
Hobbits and Gnomes are related to Dwarves. Hobbits being shaped by the vicinity to Humans and Gnomes due to their proxity to the Feywild
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:14:44 PM No.95877362
>>95877269
Azura, my waifu, was cooking when she made Khajiit
Azura, my waifu, was cooking when she made Khajiit
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:14:52 PM No.95877364
Lizard men and bird folk are different ethnic groups of the same race of intelligent dinosaurs.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:23:37 PM No.95877403
>>95877245 (OP)
Traditional games?
Traditional games?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:44:16 PM No.95877511
>>95877362
is that why the khajiit are all cooked?
is that why the khajiit are all cooked?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:49:53 PM No.95877539
>>95877269
Dwemer really were like "You don't have to tell me what happened but you have to eat all the mushrooms".
Dwemer really were like "You don't have to tell me what happened but you have to eat all the mushrooms".
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:45:21 PM No.95878228
>>95877469
moonsugar is vitamins for Khajit
moonsugar is vitamins for Khajit
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:46:33 PM No.95878235
>>95877353
If you're using the name Hobbit, then you're purposefully invoking the imagery of Middle Earth. This means that if your hobbits aren't a race of man who grew small due to isolation in their hole-houses, you're doing it gay and wrong.
If you're using the name Hobbit, then you're purposefully invoking the imagery of Middle Earth. This means that if your hobbits aren't a race of man who grew small due to isolation in their hole-houses, you're doing it gay and wrong.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:47:25 PM No.95878243
>>95878235
Fine, halflings. It's all the same anyways.
Fine, halflings. It's all the same anyways.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:57:38 PM No.95878747
>>95877245 (OP)
There are all sorts of intensely magical races, humans, and all sorts of human hybrids. Human plus Sidhe makes tall Elves, humans plus Sprites makes short Elves. Human plus Gnome makes civilized Dwarves, Human plus Troll makes berserker Dwarves. Human plus Ogre makes big Orcs, Human plus Goblin makes nasty clever Orcs. No such thing as Halflings other than an insult toward overly tall Gnomes, skinny Dwarves, pinkish Goblins or short Elves (who also get called Keeblers at times). Plenty of other combos because humans can literally breed with anything, or more that everything else has too strongly opposed of magical natures to breed but they can with humans. Dragons, elementals, demons, devils, angels, beasts, plants, the only things that can't breed with humans are undead (plenty of which are made from humans anyway) and automotons (which can still be combined as cyborgs).
There are all sorts of intensely magical races, humans, and all sorts of human hybrids. Human plus Sidhe makes tall Elves, humans plus Sprites makes short Elves. Human plus Gnome makes civilized Dwarves, Human plus Troll makes berserker Dwarves. Human plus Ogre makes big Orcs, Human plus Goblin makes nasty clever Orcs. No such thing as Halflings other than an insult toward overly tall Gnomes, skinny Dwarves, pinkish Goblins or short Elves (who also get called Keeblers at times). Plenty of other combos because humans can literally breed with anything, or more that everything else has too strongly opposed of magical natures to breed but they can with humans. Dragons, elementals, demons, devils, angels, beasts, plants, the only things that can't breed with humans are undead (plenty of which are made from humans anyway) and automotons (which can still be combined as cyborgs).
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:17:37 AM No.95879253
>>95877245 (OP)
None. Fantasy should never include science, it completely removes the mystery.
None. Fantasy should never include science, it completely removes the mystery.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:33:40 AM No.95879737
>>95877245 (OP)
Like sex, there's no correct way, but there's lots of fun ways to do it differently.
Like sex, there's no correct way, but there's lots of fun ways to do it differently.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:36:38 AM No.95879752
>>95879253
I think what you mean is that Fantasy as a genre can have science involved but that which is science is not fantasy.
Fantasy stories can involve science obliquely but not as a primarily science or technology. Instead, science and technology are treated as background assumptions of the setting in order to be meaningfully related to the human experience. Gravity works so things fall down. Whether there's a scientific understanding of why that is or not. Photons propagate, so eyes exist and people can see things. Whether there's any exposition about photons or not.
It's overwhelmingly common for fantasy settings to simply not even realize how much science they just presume and take for granted. Either avoiding it intentionally or accidentally, and the audience doing so as well. It can't really be otherwise. If you had nothing in common with a story, not only could the story not make any sense to you, but you wouldn't even recognize that you're being told a story.
So verisimilitude is a matter of degrees. Always.
What then allows for the mystery? Precisely that prior attempt to suspend disbelief. Science is still there. But the trick is to manipulate the audience to forget about it for a minute and look elsewhere. That is where the mystery can be - that elsewhere beyond the Real... and touching it, adjacent to it.
I think what you mean is that Fantasy as a genre can have science involved but that which is science is not fantasy.
Fantasy stories can involve science obliquely but not as a primarily science or technology. Instead, science and technology are treated as background assumptions of the setting in order to be meaningfully related to the human experience. Gravity works so things fall down. Whether there's a scientific understanding of why that is or not. Photons propagate, so eyes exist and people can see things. Whether there's any exposition about photons or not.
It's overwhelmingly common for fantasy settings to simply not even realize how much science they just presume and take for granted. Either avoiding it intentionally or accidentally, and the audience doing so as well. It can't really be otherwise. If you had nothing in common with a story, not only could the story not make any sense to you, but you wouldn't even recognize that you're being told a story.
So verisimilitude is a matter of degrees. Always.
What then allows for the mystery? Precisely that prior attempt to suspend disbelief. Science is still there. But the trick is to manipulate the audience to forget about it for a minute and look elsewhere. That is where the mystery can be - that elsewhere beyond the Real... and touching it, adjacent to it.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:51:34 AM No.95879832
>>95877329
That's a very interesting phylogeny you've got going on there.
That's a very interesting phylogeny you've got going on there.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:27:33 AM No.95880307
>>95877560
/thread
/thread
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:11:37 AM No.95881594
>>95877245 (OP)
I like doing it this way, personally.
I like doing it this way, personally.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:53:57 AM No.95881742
>>95881594
I use the same except dwarf and halfling are switched
I use the same except dwarf and halfling are switched
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:54:17 PM No.95883608
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Joss
6/16/2025, 11:40:08 PM No.95886014
simple logic of 50/50, 75/25, 100/100
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:43:59 PM No.95886038
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:16:55 AM No.95887470
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:59:27 AM No.95887600
>>95877245 (OP)
How did this topic relate to your last tabletop gaming session?
How did this topic relate to your last tabletop gaming session?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:23:53 AM No.95887962
>>95877245 (OP)
everyone descends from the titans, including the gods.
everyone descends from the titans, including the gods.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:26:09 AM No.95887974
>>95879253
But in all mythologies they always explained where humans and monsters come from.
But in all mythologies they always explained where humans and monsters come from.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:33:41 AM No.95888009
>>95887974
and that's not phylogeny
and that's not phylogeny
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:31:43 PM No.95889309
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:19:03 PM No.95889840
>>95887470
What's going on above them, anon. Where do the lines start.
What's going on above them, anon. Where do the lines start.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:44:30 PM No.95891334
>>95890135
Kill yourself.
Kill yourself.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:37:22 AM No.95895230
>>95883608
What's the point of using one word of Greek? Hiding it from the few people who will look at it enough to know there's weird text there but who can't be fucked transliterating it as opposed to those few who will look at it and already read Greek or will transliterate?
What's the point of using one word of Greek? Hiding it from the few people who will look at it enough to know there's weird text there but who can't be fucked transliterating it as opposed to those few who will look at it and already read Greek or will transliterate?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:06:43 PM No.95898374
>>95895230
Because I liked it***.
"I wanna use a Greek word for something divine-related" or something like that; but I am not sure, sometimessometimes I forget the reason for something like this. I find it fun and do it.
***And I wanna to bump the thread
Because I liked it***.
"I wanna use a Greek word for something divine-related" or something like that; but I am not sure, sometimessometimes I forget the reason for something like this. I find it fun and do it.
***And I wanna to bump the thread
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:26:13 AM No.95902269
>>95898374
Good reason, thanks for the answer.
Good reason, thanks for the answer.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:07:27 AM No.95903318
>>95877245 (OP)
honestly if your races connect at all then you're doing shitty allegory, not fantasy
honestly if your races connect at all then you're doing shitty allegory, not fantasy