Wolf Queen edition

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>10th Edition Rules:
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>>Previous thread:
>>95874752


>Thread Question:
How are the new Space wolves?

>>95879959 (OP)
This is how I Khorne SoB.

I already have 12 Noise marines but I can get another 6 for $40
Are people still fielding 18 of them?

> TQ
Pretty fun. I'm enjoying a dread heavy list with the hero hammer detachment

>>95879971
elves exist purely to get pregnant with human children

>>95879971
Dew it

>>95879959 (OP)
Need femmarine warrior mommy so much it’s unreal bros.

*blocks your path*

>>95879988
Are all of https://files.catbox.moe/6i2mka.jpg pregnant?

>>95880007
*clears your path*

>>95880018
nu-broadsides are so much better than the original it's unreal

>>95880043
Yeah, but I think they are cute in that stumpy square proportions way that GW models were at the time.

>>95879988
Even the male ones?

>>95879969
That image is neither khorne, nor a sororitas.

>>95880082
Eldar change gender at will, therefore the males will become females as required.
Mike Brooks canonized this.

>>95880086
This. She's too smart to be khorne

>>95880086
Yeah, her whole thing was making a stink zone and poisoning enemies.

I have come to bear the word of the true chaos god.

>>95880112
I think I’ve been here too long to remember these shitposts and the ire it drew from other anons but looking back it was quite harmless compared to a lot of stuff that repeatedly occurred on /40kg/.

>>95880082
Especially the male ones

>>95879969
>>95880086
Are they even female?

Where abouts can I buy some of that soulless wtc compliant L shaped terrain?

Ork chads how are we feeling right now

>>95879959 (OP)
>Kharn
>Fabious Bile
>Ahriman
Melee guy, apothecary and librarian, but who's the top stealth & guns guys among the traitor legions? I'm putting together a battle scenario for my friends but I need more guys to fill some roles.

>>95880018
>>95880065
I regret not buying them when I had the chance. I liked the battletech-esque design.

>>95880251
100% Cypher

>>95880251
> Librarian
Typhus or ahriman

>>95880284
Disregard. Am retard

>>95880281
I am a dumb, one of them plays dark angels and this'll really piss him off, I love it.

>>95880251
Alpha legion and Iron Warriors

>>95880281
How the fuck does this nigga not get caught by the dark angels this long even after they get their primaris upgrades?

>>95880311
Marines are the most retarded faction in 40k. This has been a known fact for decades now.

>>95880178
Aliexpress

>>95880295
Cypher lore is so fucking lame and cringe that he wraps back around to being based.

>>95880130
I just think it's crazy that GW spent all this money and partnered with cover to go nowhere with this chaos story line. Feels just like Eldar and Ynnead.

i have a squad of skittle rangers and vanguard each. what should my third box be?

>>95880370
are they fully painted?

Should I go full Chaos Knights or just flood the board with CSM termies?

>>95880311
The dude got arrested by custodes and put into a prison no one has broke out of in 10k years, and then proceeded to break out within a paragraph.

>>95880334
>partnered with cover to go nowhere with this chaos story line
Who and what storyline?

>>95880380
the vanguards are. I got half a squad of rangers secondhand, grabbed box 3 to fill them out with delaque bodies. Ideally I'll get another two squads out of the box via bashing.

>>95880401
>chaos marine
>put in prison
>not killed outright
What the fuck kind of joker immunity bullshit is this?

Will you guys be mad when GW does another Index edition for 11th or is that what you all are hoping for?

>>95880402
Cover is Hololive’s parent company, but I don’t remember them doing anything official with GW, as far as I recall, a 40k reference made its way into the predictions for one of Bae’s outfits, there were talks among them about doing a Darktide stream that never went anywhere (this is a common fate for HoloEN FPS collab streams), a few girls played SM2 when it came out, and Mori did a model painting stream.

>>95880419
He was helping the loyalists at the time
>bobby g came back
>fighting chaos
>cypher shows up with more fallen and offers to help if he can see emperor
>they all go to terra
>gulliman notices the lions sword and has him arrested by the custodes
>he proceeds to break out and is now running around terra

>>95880419
Cypher is like the meme version of Alpha Legion on steroids.

>>95880419
Cypher broke Guilliman out of prison as he had been taken custody of by the Red Corsairs so he was on the loyalist side at the time.

>>95880419
From Guillimans perspective would you immediately assume a guy with zero chaos iconography and in fact has loyalist iconography who is also actively helping you kill chaos marines is a chaos marine?

>>95880446
Isn't that how the dropsite massacre went down?

>>95880468
Guilliman wasn't there for that.

>>95880427
All I know is that there was an incident where an anon wanted to make the next warhammer 40k general thread so badly that he accidentally made it on /vt/.
Also /vt/fags are unhinged.

>>95880421
I’m assuming we keep the detachments that everyone got from 10th

I finished a guy this morning.

>>95880480
Kinda gay anon. Cool robot though.

>>95880477
The board died when the site went down a couple months ago, the only people left there are the most abhorrent posters on the site, and claims about schizo behavior and samefagging that sound ridiculous here are factually true there. Which explains the behavior of some of the worst posters in these threads.

Guard bros, how're you holding up?

>>95880480
cute bugcron

>>95880489
I’m tired from work. Gonna get a good sleepy and if it all goes according to plan I wake up and prime a printed tank.

>>95880487
It does not help that mods ban people at random.

Did gw do anything during the zombie craze of the 2000s?

>>95880487
Didn't they just move to their own image board site?

>>95880489
My headphones died and my favorite hour long music compilation video I listen to when I hobby is off YouTube now.

>>95880506
Death guard?

>>95880489
>humies

the absolute state

>>95880489
I don't wanna edge highlight anymore rivets, I'm tired.

>>95880489
I’ve learned to just basecoat my tanks get a large brush by miniature painting standards and just run marine juice over the whole tank.

>>95880546
Then add chipping effects but not too many. I think when in doubt use a dark brown for chipping effects. The paint I’m thinking of using is ak’s chocolate chipping.

>>95880437
>guilliman
>captured by chaos marines
>not killed outright
The pendulum swings both ways, what kind of fucking joker immunity is this shit?

>>95880482
Kek, thanks anon.
>>95880496
<3

>>95880402
After the success of belakor's release GW wanted to do more venturous media projects, so they decided to work with Cover to add a chaos character to their upcoming gen, unfortunately due to COVID and GW's British dry with being lost on Japs at cover this deal ended up losing a lot of momentum. The characters are still here, Hakos Baelz, but she's had a lot less emphasis on the chaos side, which is ok because at least we got a cute idol out of it.
it was crazy having to explain what the hell vtubers were to my old Serbian GW manager because he had no idea what company communications was talking about

>>95880562
Red Corsairs were gonna give him to Abaddon.

>>95880427
Mori mentioned she got sent the Special Edition of SM2 once but it seemed to have been misplaced until after the craze was over so she didn’t actually get it until very late. There’s a comical level of overlap between Vtuber fans and Warhammer fans, it really explains the amount of schizo posting that goes on when you think about it.

>>95880534
the rivet highlights will continue until morale improves

Bros when in doubt what drybrush color is best for tanks after giving the whole thing an acrylic wash?

>>95880534
I've always just done a light drybrush or a little nuln oil myself. I've never been much for edge highlighting.

>>95880534
Nigga get gundam markers, you can shit out an entire baneblade in minutes

what hobby stores have the entire ak range with a discount in the united states? Im talking everything, marker, texture paint, the works, everything. I need it. I crave it.

>>95880593
Leadbelcher, of course.

>>95880527
The schizos get banned if they go there, so they either shout into the void in /vt/, or afflict other boards with their presence.

I can't soup my guard with my sisters anymore. My 4e army was guardsmen guarding basilisks that sat in the back while sisters in immolators ride around contesting objectives. I could do the same thing with kasrkin in chimeras but I love sisters. I could also do the same thing with sisters and replace the basilisks with castigators, but again it's not the same. I liked the soup rules back then.

I bought a bunch of the new sisters stuff so now I have two full armies instead of one soup army.

>>95880489
Highlighted some infantry and heavy weapons squads today.

>>95880578
That makes perfect sense. I guess the question is whether Cover or GW is more incompetent.

>>95880281
Cypher goes so far beyond ridiculous he wraps back around to being really cool again. It's bullshit you can't take him in Imperial armies anymore. Also his datasheet is one of the funniest in the game. His melee weapons are just his pistols because he does gun karate. Also the old model mogs the new one. The sprinting max payne double pistols is hilarious and fun.

https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/chaos-space-marines/Cypher

>>95880408
Get a dune buggy for them! You can never go wrong with getting 1 of your armies dedicated transport.

Is it safe to assume that dark eldar Haemonculi Covens will get a specific detachment when their codex releases?
What are the chances we some new DE models?

>>95880709
>gun kata
he must've learned that technique from the custodes

>>95880725
Other way around, custodes saw moritats and cypher and thought that if they copies them they'll be as cool as them.
Unfortunately ever since they failed they're ONE FUCKING JOB they've had a massicve chip on their shoulder that stops them from being cool

>>95880110
B-But that's her copycats!

I'm trying to find an alternative 40k ruleset I think I found in a 40k general about a year ago can anyone give me a hand? I have most of the books from it but I'm missing a few and would like to have them all.

It's alternating activation based of 3rd-7th edition as far as I can tell and has a Codex Imperialis with a list for an Arbites army in that book. I've tried looking plenty of places online but haven't found anything

>>95880780
Sounds gay, just play the old editions.

>>95880772

>>95880505
Just don’t say slurs or bitch about culture war shit.

>>95880780
You mean Fourk?

Tzaangors!

Yo i cant wait to do my panther cerastus knight

>>95880780
Id ask in HH or oldhammer threads desu. The people ITT either dont/have never played warhammer or play 10th.

>>95880505
He wants to start talking about gassing t******s SO FUCKING BAD but he already got slapped for it multiple times hahaha

>>95880873
oh look who it is

I think im gonna throw away my bears my dog has been sick since ripping up three of them. I didn’t wash them cause I dod not know about resin.

>>95879969
Hell yeah nigga. FH2 is gonna be sick

>>95880899

>>95880919
Yea Ive got 2 knights waiting for me

>>95880899
they look even worse painted how is that possible. what the fuck is going on with the shoulder pads? paint job is fine, unsalvageable model.

>>95880936
Obviously im was not done with that one, the paint started melting and smudging off of it because I forgot to wash it first.

>>95880562
>murdering the most valuable hostage you could possibly take
>in a universe where shit like Chaos exists and you can corrupt your enemy's most powerful champions into YOUR most powerful champions
Stfu retard. There was potential there for Guilliman to be corrupted to Chaos while simultaneously being used to lure the Ultramarines into a heavily fortified Iron Warriors meatgrinder. Although that's on the Chaos gods for not directly intervening and putting all eyes on Guilliman in that moment, the writers being retarded fags, and GW needing to sell Guilliman models.

>>95879959 (OP)
okay we can have female space marines i just decided for some reason

>>95879959 (OP)

>>95880958
Age Of Sigmar

>>95880958

IF space marines were hypothetically in the next starter set for 11th edition...they should feature a brand new legion that are adept in psychic capabilities, led by two new primarchs.

>>95880958
Personally, I don't see why not. But make /yourgals/ make sense. That's my rule.

It is a bit weird how chaos hasnt tried putting a gender bender fiasco on anyone. Just making someone in charge of something as minor as disposal a woman would create a shit show.

>>95881069
That's the joke, everyone is minor and disposable. Someone getting r63'd would just be cause for immediate blamming since chaos mutation is chaos mutation no matter what shape it is, and if you're in a position to mutate someone that powerful why bother, just kill or possess them.

looking for pdfs of deldar and collection cuz I only managed to find asuryani titled "the eldar sketchbook" (as it should be).

>>95881109
I'm particularly interested in titans as per https://taleofpainters.com/2018/04/review-eldar-collection-by-jes-goodwin/

>>95881069
>Slaaneshi sorceror hits a Marine with the gender-change spell
>Proceeds to get clobbered by the angry muscular fridge of a woman who's still wearing several hundres pounds of ceramite armor
>Several moments later the fem-Marine collapses and starts to spasm uncontrollably as the augments inside her body catch up to the sudden biological change, causing mass organ failure and rupturing which kills the Marine from the inside and irrevocably destroys their geneseed

>>95881178
I cast gender bender!
>this kills the marine

40k needs more bald

>>95881109
>>95881120
I have some knife ear porn for you
https://transfiles.ru/mhtyi

>>95881250
>249mb

>>95881250
>>95881262
oh I thought you meant actual porn lmao I'm a fuckin idiot

>>95881262
That wouldnt be that much anyways

>>95881268
Forgive me, I still think 1998 was 10 years ago.

I wonder if its a good idea to use black 4.0 on miniature models

>>95881250
domo arigato, pdf sama
>knife ear porn
it truly is, dare I say, pure sex.

>>95881250
Splendid stuff.

>>95881250
>Wraithlord with heavy weapons on wrists and catapults on shoulders
Fuck me I want to get a new one just to try that out

>>95881343
thank you for giving me an idea to replace his forearms with weapons for a miniature revenant titan

>>95881250
im downloading it on my spare computer pls dont hack me :)

Damn this shit is cool.

ENTER

If bikes count as vehicles for the june collage, I submit mine. If not its ok.

>I can just see a small fraction of the wheel / tracks on your vehicle, therefore I can shoot at it
>also my gun has an anti vehicle profile with dev wounds

Surely benefit of cover should provide more than just +1 to save in this scenario as it's completely negated by dev wounds

>>95881423
kino

>>95881423
Looks nice anon, what do you use to highlight the black parts?

>>95880872
I'm forever mad that there is no female tzaangors.
Or any female tzeentch worshippers, wfb, aos, or tow inclusive.
They made one female cultist in underworlds, which is now long oop.
Even the old warhammer mmorpg genderlocked tzeentch characters to male for unknown reasons.
Is tzeentch the god of penis or something?

>>95880958
Only if there is rape allowed. I hate how so many wargames don't have a highly important part of historic and modern warfare. Nut just during combat but as you occupy their lands, as you aid the country asking for your help, as you do to your own civilians so they might have the honor of serving their countries with their bodies, etc.

>tfw no one wants to play on boards with random terrain, just want the WTC L shaped ruins setup

even casuals are like this, it's infuriating, it's like everyone is practising for a tourney they will never play in

>>95881431
I didnt have thunderhawk blue so I mixed abaddon black with a bit of calgar blue, fenrisian gray, and a bit of maccragge blue for the highlights everywhere.
Then for the most raised highlight I did pure fenrisian gray. Then for the highest edge I added a bit of ulthuan gray to the fenrisian gray.
>>95881430
Thank you anon

>>95881446
As long as there is adequate terrain. I'm sick of playing on planet bowling ball.
I run two castigators, three exorcists, full mech sisters just so I have a chance.

>>95881250
dark eldar are so good
that one sslyth model is such a cool design

>>95881423
You have to show the little windows XP screen. Max an edit that shows it from multiple angles.

Day 106 after I got laid off. Hope dwindling. DO NOT LEARN TO CODE! The programming job market is dead. If you're still in college, I recommend learning systems engineering/project management instead. Get an internship or co-op that gets you a secret-clearance before you graduate.
>post models
At least my Death Guard army is coming along while unemployed. I'm working on my Blightlord Terminators. Here is how the first one went, the other four are still not ready to be photographed.

>>95880899
Nyooooo

>>95881517
suck it up and work at a mart or something, it pays at minimum (most states) 18/hr for now

>>95881517
Im desperately hoping that an English degree can get me some office job at a hospital, white collar jobs shouldnt be so fucking hard to get man, people used to fucking complain about them so much too.
now uh how to make this warhammer related uh....I wonder if servitors dream of electric sheep?

>>95881474
lmao shut up hahaha

>>95881534
>English degree
No offense anon, because at this point my computer science degree and years of experience is just as worthless, but what does an "English degree" even do? What did you learn in school, that Shakespeare was based?

>>95881529
18/hr is below the poverty line in the places that pay that anon. certainly not warhammer moneys. better to use unemployment insurance for whats its meant for, to bridge the gap to get a real big boy job using the skills hes earned even in a comeptitive and shitty job market.

>>95881542
hey about 1/3 of the population in this country is supposedly illiterate, it helps that I can read the fancy reads and speak corpo lingo.

>>95881542
I have a friend with an English degree and a masters in polsci and hes in a program now to become a high school teacher. I can't imagine there are many specific applications for it. I supposed you could be a talented writer and become a journalist or writer of some kind. But there are specific degrees for that as well...

>>95880844
Sometimes it's just the whims of the Mods of Chaos. I've browsed the /v/ermin-infested threads and typically their Chaos Mods tend to be very banhammer happy for simply talking about games.

>>95881558
Every thread on /v/ is a thinly-veiled softcore porn thread where the OP image and every subsequent image is a barely SFW image of Samus/Rouge the bat/Toriel/etc

absolutely zero discussion about video games happens on /v/ and the only worse board on the site is /vg/

you think THIS thread has schizos, you have no idea what being in a general thread for a gacha game that hasn't had updates in a month for years on end will do to the psyche of a man

>>95881544
whats the point of working 25/hr is every work day you earn 0/hr

every day not earning 25/hr while earning 18 is just losing 7 per damn hour

stop losing, get a job to pay for basics

I discovered that three of my coworkers in my immediate department (dudes I worked with every day), PLUS the boss of our entire department, played warhammer
we managed to organize two warhammer nights and traded pics of our dudes
but it only lasted two months before a third of us all got laid off, myself included

bros i had the dream: my coworkers, my boss, my boss' boss, all painting little plastic soldiers, postin' WIPs, playin' games, and then I lost it all. fuck

>>95880302
Excellent answers but I'm trying to stick with special characters when possible.

>>95881542
>mfw I studied comp-sci too
Maybe I should've stopped fearing my dad would kill me and just accepted dying as a better alternative to studying at that shithole university. The least pleasant waste of money in my life.

>>95881474
>organise a game
>that one opponent that puts fuck all terrain on the table and thinks its enough
>doesn't want to play the closed windows on ground floor
>happens to be running a shooty army

many such cases

>>95881596
If my opponent wants bottom-floor windows to count as open I politely replace the terrain with bricks before starting the game

>>95881517
>have an engineering degree
>tfw that useless that I never managed to get a job with it

even if I was to go back and upskill the average recruiter would see that, assume that I'm a failure (which is true) and chuck my cv in the bin. think I'm stuck

>>95881602
Not a bad idea desu

>>95881602
40k could solve a lot of these problems by just switching to alternating activations. shooting is a lot less punishing when one guy cant just fire with his entire army before the opponent can even react

while we're on the subject, are there any other tradesmen who play 40k here?
i do minor plumbing work at my LGS in exchange for store credit

>>95881619
>year 2000
Stay in school Billy, you don't want to end up as an electrician or a plumber!
>year 2025
>plumbers and electricians rule the world
>codecels and engineers in poverty

>>95881611
For some reason I never notice my army getting obliterated, even with fewer models on the table after getting shot at, whenever somebody cracks back on their turn they still wipe about as many models, but then again I play space marines and play with closed-windows terrain. Do people in their games usually get blasted and then can't effectively retaliate on their turn?

>>95880712
I assume the detachments will be something like
>Kabalite focus
>Wych cult focus
>Coven focus
>Generic mix of all 3 (i.e. realspace raiders)
>Boat focused detachment

>>95881619
>while we're on the subject, are there any other tradesmen who play 40k here?
I'm a qualified light vehicle mechanic, but I don't work in the industry anymore. I'm too old.

Update on my spider hormagaunts. I had to take a break due to wrist pain, writers bruise for 8hours of scraping flashing (at least 8 hours), and I went and did a final pass just now to get another 2-8 minutes per model to finish posing legs, flashing I missed(was tired) and such.

Plan is I am going to cover the legs and abdomen in thick paint to smooth the details so they look more chitanious...

The flashing I had to remove made the fuzzy look really shitty. I knew what I was getting into, but I had no idea I was going to have to pin every model to a doubled up base for structure. This total project of 120 hormagaunts probably has taken me 30-40 hours by my guess so far.

I think the time I had to take to make these models ready was more effort than a normal 40k model. I thought time was saved but it really wasn't.

I'll poke at the ryans leaper models next!
(I may modify the neurolictor models to look more psychic)

>>95881632
I remember one time a dude pointed to a worker saying
>Go to college or else you end up like this
The worker replied he had to go to college to get his position.

I don't get why some are so adverse to skill trades. There's tons of situations like home repair or construction which need them. I thought it was bullshit so many headed to university. Those lying parents I've told over and over but many care more about their prestige and having a kid with a degree than the wellbeing of their child.

Did the piranha kit change? I'm looking at the sprue and the copyright is 2005.
But I've seen piranhas before with a roof over the pilot and copilot, but open sides.
Was that an old kit? A new kit that went oops? A popular kitbash?

>>95881659
that was a forge world kit

>>95881685
there was also this other forge world kit

>>95881619
I used to do a little freelance construction a decade ago. Minor projects that didn't need permits or council approval and that I could just do on my own.
I work in a small warehouse nowadays, minding stock, helping load flat packed furniture into customer cars and politely explaining that no, you can fit a 3m long table in your tiny-arse sedan. Unboxing it won't do anything. Just go back to the store and pay for delivery you fucking cheapskate.

>>95881650
Back in the 50s-70s you didn't need a college degree to be a tradesman so it became a stigma that not going to college directly led to being a tradesman.

After several generations of stupid kids going to college for bullshit degrees like archaeology or computer science, the supply of tradesmen hasn't kept up with the demand (there will ALWAYS be a demand for tradesmen, it's the safest career that exists).

>>95880712
>What are the chances we some new DE models?
You'll get a pity character just like everyone else did this edition except marines and you'll like it.

>>95881689
>>95881685
I like these designs more then the open-top plastic one.

How the fuck are you supposed to counter a solitaire? Just let your character die from the precision attacks and hope the bodyguard kills it?

>>95881713
not a lot of great ways short of literally crowding him out with mass bodies. thats kind of the solitaires wholw shtick, its a once per game missile like a hunter killer, not much you can do about it

>>95881701
>ignoring the guard and eldar refreshes to perpetuate your victim complex

>>95881570
do you know what unemplyment insurance is and how much it pays out? I got 15 grand from it when I got out of the military.

>>95881701
I beg of GW
Just a crumb of plastic grotesques

>>95881649
Love spiders love your army. Thanks for the update.

>>95881649
>Plan is I am going to cover the legs and abdomen in thick paint to smooth the details so they look more chitanious...
I think you would have a much easier and faster process if you picked up some.uv resin or uv nail polish and got a small uv flashlight from amazon. It'll allow you to paint the resin onto the surface with a shitty paintbrush, let it lay flat for a few minutes and then and then cure it in a couple seconds so it doesn't droop or sag while its drying. It would be much more controllable as well

>>95881719
If something has precision and they allocate the attacks to a character, those attacks don't spill over into the bodyguard once the character is killed do they?

A typical game of 40k really fails to capture the feeling of fighting an epic battle once you realize that you're fighting over an area that is only roughly a little larger than an American football field. And that's if you play on a 6x4 table. The game claims to be 28mm scale which is roughly equivalent to a 1:60 scale. That means a 6'x4' table would be a 360'x240' area if it were a real battlefield. An American football field is 300'x160'. Doesn't make the battles feel very epic knowing that I'm fighting for such a small piece of territory. It also makes current army sizes make no sense. Over the years the game has gradually increased from a platoon size game to pretty much a company sized game. Fighting over such a small area with a platoon makes sense, but why would any military commander dedicate an entire company to seize such a small part of the overall battlefield?

If there's a point I'm trying to make with my rambling here, I guess it's that the game either needs to be scaled back down to being a platoon sized game (the ideal solution) or the standard playing surface should increase to better reflect an area that a company sized element would be expected to either take or defend.

>>95881754
I agree but only if you post your nudes

>>95881725
You mean the Guard refresh that axed most of the model line?

>>95881694
My chemistry teacher was right. He asked lots of us why we didn't go for an apprenticeship and why so many of us aimed for college. He too said there's work everywhere and even then I knew AI wouldn't advance so far to get robot carpenters within my lifetime and any comp-sci position I'd get is easily outsourced to India or I wouldn't get one because even then I knew entry-level was a joke. My reasoning was little more than
>My parents won't shut up and I fear for my life. At least dying on the streets in a few years with a worthless degree prolongs my life.
The worst mistakes I've ever made were due to my parents, big and small, and I knew they were outdated. They also suck balls at convincing in any way but shrieking until I do whatever they say to get them to shut up. Honestly, some of the worst arguments I've ever heard came from them to the point I had times I did the reverse for no reason other than to spite the insults to logic they spew.
>>95881754
The most you'll manage is a Total War game if you don't want players unhappy they're dealing with a table too huge or too many units to move.

>>95881758
You don't want to see my nudes. I'm a middle-aged fat ass.

>>95881754
There are some people who set up huge tables to play on for epic games. But the reason that's rare is that its just a bunch of work. Even the historicals guys who make big gynasium sized boards have to simplify their ruleset and only come together to do it once per year.

>>95881760
The forge world line of krieg sucked ass dude

This will be your new battlesuit.

>>95881423
I feel like it's more like cavalry than a vehicle but what the heck, I'll allow it.

>>95881754
All points need to increase 50%, make armies smaller

>>95881773
Not an argument. A true refresh would mean GW would have kept those kits and just made better versions of them. Instead, over the past decade, the Guard has gone from having almost as many kits as space marines to now being down to just 67. And of those 67, even more are about to get axed since the 10th edition Guard codex moved a ton of stuff to Legends, which we all know is the first step to being phased out of the game completely.

>>95881754
the ground scale is completely abstract to the point of being nonexistent
weapon ranges and movement simply reflect what priestley thought was appropriate for the average table size

>>95881798
The weapon ranges are fine though. Yes, realistically the guns themselves would be able to shoot much further, but if you look at the average ranges that real world armies engage each other at and scale it down to 28mm scale, it lines up pretty well with the ranges they assign to weapons in 40k.

>>95881725
Sorry, I forgot the npc faction existed for a moment.
But what did eldar get?

>>95881797
good, fuck your NPC faction and your victim complex

>>95881432
All things considered Tzeentch hasn't really had a major model update since GW started their more mixed gender units policy. Wait till another new tzaangor or acolyte unit comes out and see what they do, if they have no women then GW is doing it for a reason.

It's cool that plague marines can be run in squads of 7 and it's actually the optimal way cost-wise. I know it's because the box brings 7 marines but it's still a neat touch that there's a reason to do so.

>>95881820
Weak bait. Do better.

>>95881750
wife paints nails, she tells me how the paint I use wouldn't adhere for as long as I want

chemistry is weird, I'm willing to wait for a few layers of thicker paint that is porous when it dries, just have to experiment which one to use

I used to do nurgle models with bubbles this way, could see into them with the right paint and brush and a good hot lamp

>>95881797
>It doesn't count because we didn't get everything and more!!!
I guess the space wolves and blood angels refreshes don't count since they didn't keep everything
And people wonder why guardfags have a reputation for being tied with eldarfags for biggest whiners

>>95881797
>A true refresh meant they would've kept them AND released new ones
that's not what a refresh is you fucking retard

>>95881843
eldarfags have a reputation as whiners only in your posts
the actual reputation of eldarfags is being seasonal waacfags, but you're a nogame so of course you wouldn't know

New wyches would be nice.

>>95881849
>eldarfags have a reputation as whiners only in your posts
What sort of fresh delusion is this

>>95881843
Name another army that has had most of their sub-factions eliminated like the Guard has. The Guard used to have 11 sub-factions and now only have 3. So the Space Wolves and Blood Angles lost a few models? Cry me a river. At least they still exist.

>>95881754
But that is what 40k has always been.
This isn't a mass military battle to decide the fate of entire worlds. It's too clashing combat patrols. It's a vanguard unit striking at an enemy's least guarded flank. The forlorn hope breeching an entrenchment.

Epic was the massed battles game, which came back in HH flavour.

>>95881853
>it only counts for my guys because I say so
The childlike mentality of guardfags never ceases to amaze

>>95881847
Not what I meant. I'll admit I worded that poorly. What I was trying to say was keep the rules for them and then release updated kits.

>>95881857
>Can't refute point
>Resorts to petty insults

I accept your concession.

>>95881868
You need to have a point and not just toddler-tier crying for me to be able to refute it

>>95881854
Try to read the entire post. Your point doesn't hold up when you consider the current state of the game. A company sized element is not just a "combat patrol". And a company sized element would not be sent to fight over such a small area.

That's why I said the game should either be reduced back down to platoon sized games or the table size should be increased. But you obviously didn't read that far because you have the attention span of a fucking hummingbird and stopped reading after the first sentence.

>>95881871
>Still can't refute point
>Claims no point was made

I accept your concession.

>>95881754
>An American football field is 300'x160'. Doesn't make the battles feel very epic knowing that I'm fighting for such a small piece of territory
you're wrong on multiple levels, so let me break it down for you:
>Your 2000 point army is just a small company of soldiers - what you don't see is the hundreds of thousands of points off-screen/off the table that are fighting on other parts of the battlefield
>These battles are raging for dozens if not hundreds of years. It's completely lore-appropriate you'd be putting in all this effort JUST to capture a pathetic slice of land the size of a football field. Don't you remember how many people died in WW1 just to capture a few inches each battle?
learn media literacy you absolute fucking homunculus

>>95881871

>>95881833
Wrong, now that their shooting means they cause afflict, the optimal PM squad is 10 guys with as many guns (particularly plasma guns) as you can fit.
>you built all your plague marines with heavy plague weapons and bubotic weapons pre-codex because that was their previous best-loadout
>you didn't magnetize
games workshop says "fuck you", buy more plague marines

>>95881886
Imagine having to do all these mental gymnastics just to avoid admitting that the scale of the game doesn't make sense.

>>95881892
absolute decrepit bait but I'll bite: the scale of your 2000 point battle is just a fraction of the scale of the entire war going on on that particular battlefield/planet

>>95881754
You don't actually want to play a game the size of your entire house because its a fucking 'orrible slog m8

Is now a bad time to build a drukhari list?
Should I just wait for the unkown codex release date?

>>95881894
Read my original post again and maybe this time you'll see that I never claimed what your saying I claimed.

>>95881745
missed this post for a minute
thanks, I ran into another hiccup but I''ll make it better
>neurolictor models are nowhere the right size
ezpz

>>95880958
Kek

>>95880958
Who says there aren't already female space marines? Could be that due to the genetic enhancements they end up just looking like male space marines which is why everyone believes there are no female space marines. You know, kinda like how in Fallout, female super mutants end up looking, acting and talking just just like male super mutants.

>>95881912
Why the fuck would I read your objectively garbage post once, let alone twice? Be grateful I even bothered to read it at all, fag.

>>95880018
>>95880043
I have a massive soft spot for the broadside thanks to DoW. Having the lock their legs into the ground to fire the giant railgun is super cool

>>95881956
So you admit that you just spit out some canned response instead of making an actual point?

I accept your concession. God it's so easy running intellectual circles around 4channers. They told me you faggots were smart.

>>95881853
I don’t care for the redundant subtractions of guard, they’re genuinely boring and if it were up to me I would remove all British influences-nay, all europeein ties to the faction. Catachan is the only aspect of the faction that matters.

>>95881890
A blight launcher and a plasma gun on your sarge (which was a common loadout before) already gives you like what, 99%+ chance of afflicting whatever you want to shoot at? The only thing that changed is that plasma guns are good now, spewers and launchers were always built.

>>95880251
Sevatar and Turbo Pete imo, assuming the latter isn't DQ'd and you trust Curze's foresight about the formers time and place of death. Otherwise former spot goes to someone from Alpha Legion I guess.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>95881967
Weak bait. Do better.

>>95881983
Have you ran out of artworks?

>>95881701
>>95880712
Praying for just one personally.

>>95881992
It’s not bait, I hate all the British tanks, I could care less for krieg, steel legion, and on and on. The design of the faction offends me as it should to any other hot blooded American.

>>95882000
its mostly russian inspired

>>95882000
>I hate all the British
Well did you choose the wrong game

>>95881983
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>>95882005
That doesn’t make it better.
>>95882007
If the gundam game got revealed 2 years ago…

>>95881964
No, I admit I give you get one chance to explain your point. You don't get a second chance.
>I accept your concession. God it's so easy running intellectual circles around 4channers. They told me you faggots were smart.
By the way I want you to know I recognize this is bait - I'm just really bored at 5am and putting off my studying. Get a real hobby (like painting the models you don't have).

I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION

I’m rather fond of 10th edition, lads

I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION

>>95881968
I think the point is instead of firing once and then charging into melee, plague marines are now encouraged to sit further back and shoot for multiple turns, which will be better if you run several plasma guns (you can now equip 3 per 10 if you include the champion).

side note: has anyone else gone through the struggle to upgrade the plague marine champion's plasma pistol to a plasma gun? I had to use another model's plasma gun, but his was set up to use two hands, so I had to shave one of the hands and fingers completely off to get it to work. you also can't equip two bubotic weapons + two heavy plague weapons in a squad of 7, plus the blight launcher, without doing some creative workarounds. this kit is cursed.

>>95881785
Nah, dont add it. You're right its more like mounted unit. I'll skip this collage since I dont have vehicles in my armies. I'll just wait and see what the next theme is.
>>95881502
Lmao, pic rel with these two? My bikes are some real archaeotech.

>>95882016
>I HATE 10TH EDITION
Missed, you will not be.

Veterans of the Long War for termie spam?
Love these dudes like you wouldn’t believe.

>>95881811
don't care, you shouldn't either
I'm telling you how the guy that originally wrote the game does, he wrote a book about it
if you're looking up data on the average engagement distance in iraqistan or getting the calipers out to measure guardsmen height for working out the size of a table you're overthinking shit and need to play chain of command in 15mm or some shit

I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION
I HATE 10TH EDITION

>>95881995
Nah, just trying to mix it up a little. Need to reorganize my art folder a bit to prevent duplicates. Have to cross reference with what the other guy posts. (There are two imitators now)

im beginning to think this guy might not be totally on board with 10th you know..

>>95882042
>>95882023
>>95882016
Cool. What edition do you like to play?

>>95882037
It's just oath of moment which is a fantastic army rule so sure, go for it
I dunno how good termies are in any faction but death guard but i respect your love for them so i recommend you do it

>>95882047
NTA but
>What edition do you like to play?
2nd

>>95879959 (OP)
>sgt_lonely in OP
I thought he was dead or something considering how his profile on kemono was updated 6 months ago, but apparently he's been active all this time

Small update, I got curious so I did one of 18 ryans leapers. I had to bend the wire to hold it securely.

Small secret, I almost drilled into my finger, oops. Glad I drill slowly. I should stop when I'm tired.
>the hormagaunt is leaping if you can't tell from the angle

>>95881907
Its good if you can still get that box with the kabalites and two boats
get three of those

>>95882061
I really want to see the entire swarm completed

>>95882056
Kemono patreon scraper was offline for few months, and also in general artists on kemono get updated infrequently.
And it's not surprising he is active, no real reason to stop.
Last thing I saw made by him was those pics of a female Carcharodon marine. It was pretty nice.

>>95882000
>Hates British
>Exclusively plays a game made by the British
>Complains about British influence in a game made by the British

What causes this level of mental retardation?

>>95882068
It's going to be a while. I decided for the Neurolictors I have to snip the tips of the legs and add "talons" so it will match the other models talon-tipped legs. This ironically will make them as tall as I want/need to.

I will be snipping the abdomen off the neurolictors and finding something bigger to add. I may just cheat and buy dollar store spiders and trading abdomens.

no pics, I put everything away already

>>95882015
It's so funny when faggots like you try to speak like you have any authority or power over anything. Speaking like that is a very clear indicator that you don't actually have the confidence you pretend to have.

>>95881754
It's crazy how 40k outright states what the tabletop games are supposed to represent but your average /tg/ poster is too dumb to get it.
Same with the people who complain about "magic vp deciding who won,"

I wonder if GW is gonna make Scalie models for Necromunda one day. They are abhumans who exist within its underhives.

>>95882000
>I could care less
Go for it then chief, care less
it's a win-win

>>95882085
What it says it represents doesn't mean shit. I can take a shit, slap some bread on it and say it "represents" a cheeseburger, but that doesn't mean it actually does, does it?

>>95882085
>but your average /tg/ poster is too dumb to get it.
He is b8ing all of you. He isn't the average poster. He's intentionally shitting up this thread for his own personal entertainment.

>>95882085
lol this sounds like the guy from the other night who was trying to argue that basic weapons should have 200" range because a rifle in real life can shoot 400m

actual autists cant reckon with abstraction

>>95882093
True, the removal of all of those guardsmen don’t bother me at all. Win win.

>>95882096
>Makes a retarded post
>"imagine a burger"
American?

>>95882102
seems like there's still some caring going on

Why is everyone fighting? There is no need for it

>>95882077
>It's so funny when faggots like-
Stopped reading there, sorry buddy. Your bait isn't strong enough.

>>95882000
>>95882013
>I'm an American
>I only like American things
>Like weeaboo fighting robots

>>95882105
When the catachan get refreshed, I will care.

>>95882100
rules are a spirit of the game
imagine if we all had to buy mandatory laser pointers and used 500 dice to incorporate every defense system of a eldar hover craft

>>95882110
Gundam is a spiritual American show. You’d understand this if your soul wasn’t dragged down by gravity.

>>95882100
>lol this sounds like the guy from the other night who was trying to argue that basic weapons should have 200" range because a rifle in real life can shoot 400m
>actual autists cant reckon with abstraction
Wait till that guy finds out guns don't actually roll dice to determine how fatal they are when they shoot somebody

>>95882109
Except we all know you read the whole post. You wouldn't have responded if you didn't. And the "lol I totally didn't read it" is just a weak ass deflection tactic to cover up the fact that you don't have a comeback.

>>95882121
You ARE gonna buy and paint all the gundam tabletop wargaming figures when they release, aren't you?

>>95882124
>Except we-
Only read this far, you're so predictable I can tell it's you from literally the first two words

>>95882128
>just six parts to build an entire robot
this thing is gonna be super easy to build or have enough moldlines to give me a heart attack

>>95882108
Its one person dragging everyone down. I bet he learned how to change his IP after his ban.

>>95882121
>Gundam is a spiritual American show.
It's weebshit.

>>95882132
man if these are battlesuit size there's gonna be a lot of bootleg tau armies

>>95882108
>Why is everyone fighting? There is no need for it
Because it is apparently to much to ask that we talk about 40k in the 40kg thread. It's all so tiresome...

>>95882108
Because 40kids go into apoplectic fits of rage anytime anyone levies even the slightest criticism of their previous game. Which of course begs the the question: why are 40k players so sensitive and defensive about their game? Players of other wargames don't act like this when their game is criticized.

>>95882108
carnac just stop arguing with yourself

>Bel’akor can take 1,000 pts of CSM
soup, my beloved…

>>95882143
yawn

>>95882130
Nah, you're hanging on my every word like a lovestruck schoolgirl.

>>95882047
7th is based,
Late 9th is good too

>>95882147
Point proven. 40kids won't ever do the slightest bit of introspection and always assume everyone else is the problem.

>>95882141
They're about as big as a space marine, 2 inches.

>>95882150
>Nah, you're-
That's all you're gonna get out of me, the first two words.

>>95882155
I don't play 40k and you're definitely the problem

>>95882159
We all know you're reading my posts though. You can front all you want, but just knowing that you're reading my posts is enough for me to know I'm getting under your skin.

>>95882163
NTA, but then what are you doing here?

95882164
I didn't even READ this one, just saw the (You) and skipped it. You don't get any more (You)'s out of me, son, you've ran dry.

>>95882168
Yes you did. You know you read it. You're trying so hard to act like you didn't though.

>>95882156
almost a pity, it's always fun to see what the lads on the tournament scene use for proxies

>>95882167
here to shoot the shit

can you two just fuck already its getting boring

Post games
Did you win your last game?

real nomodels hours

>>95882167
NTA but I like painting minis and I'm a bit interested in the lore. I don't shitpost like these fags though.

>>95882156
How the fuck are they going to balance this? Is it just gundams? If your playing Zakus you have thirty of them and you still just auto-lose? Can you just moonlight butterfly and win every game, forever?

>>95881754
Even Total war Warhammer fails to show how big a lot of fights in ancient to medieval history were and that's a game that's converts 3 Demigryph Knights in tabletop into 60. 10 spearmen into 180 and so on.

>>95882024
If you go for a 10 man PM squad you probably want them to deal some damage and get them some units and even shooty plague marines are up close beasts (they work best within 12'') and you can still pack a few heavy plague weapons. A plague marine squad fully decked for shooting still packs 12 S8/2/2 attacks which means they will punk anything up to MEQ extremely easy and probably punch tanks fine as well especially with some leader support.
I think PMs are still best up close due to good OC, good melee and their shooting is short ranged. There's an argument to say DG is more of a midrange army now instead of pure melee like before but they still want to get up close.

>>95881596
Terrain should be WYSIWYG. If the windows are open holes, they should count as open. If they aren't open holes, they should count as closed.

Why is this such a hard concept for people to grasp?

95882176
Still not reading, still not giving you a (You)

>>95882185
BEAUTIFUL dreadnought, where'd you get the base from?

>>95882035
Absolutely divine.

>>95882208
probably because GW's own terrain rules have been shit for the very terrain they sell themselves since 5th ed and it's actually the terminally retarded autistic literalists like yourself with the comprehension issues

>I'm considering buying another box of 7 plague marines since my champions of Slaanesh box has a load of extra plasma guns
I might now stop needing to proxy my bolter boys as plasma gunners

>>95882210
Yes you are. And you can't hide by not giving me (you)s. I'm just lingering in this thread like a stale fart.

>>95882200
Usually in the games the Zakus are a bit less useless.

>>95881596
>Play AoS
>Terrain barely has any impact
>Can play in the jungles of Vietnam, the streets of New York(Marvel terrain) or the ruins of Gaza and it's all balanced

>>95882220
I don’t fucking understand any of this logic I hate you fucking chaos slop gaggling meta infested femboys

>>95882228
I like bone terrain when I play Aos.

>>95882218
>Window is literally an open hole
>"Um actually, that window is closed and you can't shoot through it and you're the retarded one for thinking otherwise."

This is why 40k players are the laughing stock of the wargaming hobby. You never see these kinds of arguments in other wargames.

>>95882200
Dunno but I'm going to just fill my army with Shining Gundam, Rise Gundam, Burning Gundam, and if they designate any of their Hyper Modes as separate models, one of each of those two.
Fuck Gundam Wing, G Gundam is the only show that didn't take itself so seriously and is the only gundam worth watching (other than the original, I guess)

>>95882092
They have quite some stuff left to bring up from old necromunda
>scavvies and ghouls
>ratskins and spiders cult
>pit slaves and techs
>brats and bounty hunters
>wyrds and zombies
and then it's stuff they could steal from gorkamorka like diggas and grot revolutionaries, or completely new stuff like enslavers or 40k skaven

95882221 (You)
God he's so desperate for me to read his pathetic 6am posts

>>95882235
Elaborate on the beats

>>95882237
And yet you continue to read them.

>>95882208
because nobody that actually plays the game wants to have the "uhhh i can actually see the spike on your shoulderpad from this angle so my three vindicators can clearly shoot here"

>>95882229
What's funny is that for Emperors children their basic bitch 10 marine box come with 2 plasma and 2 Meltas. A 7 man box of plague marines come with 1 melta barrel and 1 plasma barrel that have to share 1 specific gunstock

>>95882235
Ye, that's true.
I like how Necromunda is a small microcosm of all sorts of 40k stuff. It's really neat.

>>95882233
fucking lmao you stupid retard
this is as good as an admission you're nogames and are just begging for the attention everyone's stopped giving you ill
might as well have a neon billboard up

>>95882240
1. That's not the argument I made. Seems like you just want to argue that point specifically for some reason and used my post as the excuse to do it

2. 40k is literally the only wargame that can't seem to figure this shit out. Every other wargame out there, including GW's other wargames have this kind of shit figured out already. Why is it so hard for 40k?

>>95882239
Okay I read THIS one, only because it was so short my eyes couldn't avoid reading it by the time I saw the (You). You got me on this one, but I didn't read the last three though, honest. Here's a real (You) as a reward.

>>95882244
>"Anyone who says anything I disagree with is a nogames!!!!"

What causes this kind of mental retardation?

>>95882208
Well they better start selling closed windows em masse otherwise any melee army is going to get shot off the table

>>95882254
You've been reading all of them. It's okay, you can keep up the act though if it makes you feel better.

>>95882244
>falling for this bait

>>95882245
Because 40k is the only wargame large enough for regular PUGs and a comp scene so further clarification is needed on rules

>>95882260
>You've been reading all of them. It's okay, you can keep up the act though-
I got this far this time. I'm kind of tired and I'm starting to lose my razor's-edge-wit. I'm going to be going to bed soon, just as soon as I solve this stupid fucking jeetcode problem. I've known the solution for the last two hours but getting there has been tedious.

>>95882255
m8 it's not a matter of disagreeing with you, it's a matter of you writing something so fucking stupid and ignorant it 100% outs you as nogames instantly
you don't even read/comprehend rulebooks, you don't know fashions or trends in rules
you are undeniably nogames and every dumb post you make after is just you humiliating yourself for my amusement

>>95882274
>falling for this bait
>again and again
Thank god I'm not him.

>>95881250
I knew Eldars were cool but to think they are meant to be so much cooler, the kits don't make them justice.

If Jes doesn't want to do more space marines he can do more Eldars that's for sure

>>95882269
It's not even about clarification though. Other games come up with systems that don't require clarification because they write the rules in such a way as to remove all ambiguity. If other games can do it (again, this includes other GW games as well) why can't 40k? It seems like it really is just a case of 40k wanting to remain distinct from other wargames by not doing what they do, even if that means they operate with an ass backwards ruleset.

>>95882000
>I could care less
so you like them

>>95882272
You aren't as witty or as smart as you think you are. And we both know you'll keep reading every word I write.

>>95882234
>Gundam Wing
I liked Wing because it was ridiculous

95882291
Sorry pal, that's as much as I can give you. Back to jeetcode programming.

>>95882274
It is a matter of disagreeing with me. The problem though is you're too stupid to actually articulate why you disagree with me, so you just screech over and over about me being "nogames" thinking that will win you the argument.

>>95882293
Oh, I'm sorry I bruised your ego. But it's true. You aren't really witty or smart.

95882296
>Oh, I'm sorry I bruised your ego. But it's true-
This far this time. I really shouldn't keep alt-tabbing back to this thread every time I get stuck, but it's frustrating. My code is performing the way it was intended but they threw an absolutely heinous and unreasonable edge-case at me that my code isn't handling. What to do...

jesus christ you two are fucking annoying

>>95882305
I wouldn't know. I'm a jeet.

>>95882185
I had a really fun game against some TSons. My 10 man Heavy Int brick managed to survive the Tsons putting all the debuffs on them, Dev Wounds, then getting shot at by Magnus, a squad of Disk Tzangors, 2 squads of Rubricks, a 3plas Forgefiend and a Mutalith.
Very back and forth but my Redemptor failed a 5 inch charge with command reroll into the second mutalith and the game fell apart from there.

>>95882307
Then leave. No one's forcing you to stay here.

How the fuck does a space marine, an ultramarine space marine, pick up a fucking Scottish accent? This isn’t something you’re born with I’m pretty it’s acquired.

>>95882261
>>95882283
calm down m8
let's say you're correct (I doubt it) then that's even more humiliating for them

>>95882294
nah
not falling for that, I'm not spoonfeeding you for next time, you can read those rules yourself Mr Other Wargamer
what games have you played anyway?

>>95882185
>Post games
my last game was a few years back
I think I won?

>>95882309
>magnus and mutalith

reee I'm getting flashbacks to an escalation game I played where I got absolutely destroyed by those things

>>95882312
>Still can't formulate a proper counterargument and continues disingenuous deflection tactics.

I accept your concession.

>>95882311
Ultramar is a system of planets, right? I imagine there is some accent drift

>>95882318
>still humiliating himself for (You)s
God I'm about to come you filthy little nogames bitch, name a game, name a game for daddy

>>95882325
>Is now willing to act gay just to avoid admitting he has no argument

Well anon, that certainly is one tactic to use...

>>95882311
Unlike most other chapters Ultramarines pull from a wide variety of planets.

>>95882313
Is it just the angle or are custodes actually nearly as big as a killa kan?

>>95882305
>>95882296
Oh would you to just kiss already.
You're bickering like a married couple.

>>95882331
Africa isn't a planet in the Ultramar system, though

>>95882335
But planets within the Ultramar system were colonized with africans and most likely american blacks

>>95882335
>2025
>Is still bothered by racial diversity in the Imperium that is comprised of a million worlds.

>>95882335
>Africa isn't a planet in the Ultramar system, though

>>95882335
Humans don't originate from Ultramarines, mate.

>>95882343
>makeameme.org

Anon...you don't have to live like this

>>95882330
>no argument
m8 you're not going to trick me into telling you what you said that outs you as gameless trash begging for attention
you have to either:
hope I get bored with you humiliating yourself
or simply shut up
I doubt you can come up with some games that won't embarrass yourself further

FUCK JEAN STEALERS, THAT'S OUR BIT

>>95882347
There, I fixed it.

It's just disgusting that GW won't align the space marines scale modles with every single other media out there. Why do we get humans in armors instead of super humans ?

>>95882351
I swear last time someone brought this up they pointed out that scarab termies aren't that much shorter than regular termies.

Or they posted a picture proving they were way shorter.

I forget.

>>95882351
compare the scarab occult with a guardsman, not a kaserkin, those are more elite and taller

>>95882348
>Still can't articulate one single coherent point
>Launches into schizo conspiracies about people trying to trick him

Anon, I'm not the one humiliating myself.

>>95879959 (OP)
>How are the new Space wolves?
Good kits, lots of bits, they're good blood claws/Grey Hunters primarisation, rulewise it's ok, lots of restriction with the SM codex

>>95882357
whatever you say Mr Gamer

>>95882358
are you purple marine anon?

>>95882333
just the angle I think, custode terminators are big but not kan big

>>95882351
You do know the models don't have to be perfectly to scale, right? Like, why does it bother you so much that a guardsman is roughly the same size as a space marine on the table top? The tabletop game is not meant to be an accurate reflection of the lore.

>>95882359
>>95882362
carnac you need to get help

>>95882351
>>95882356

>>95882356

>>95882359
>All tactics exhausted, the retard slinks away from the discussion in defeat.

>>95882351
>he fell for the chaos meme
too bad traitor, enjoy being a manlet

>>95882311
Why does Jean Luc Picard have a British accent, not French?
Why does Luke and Leia have identical American accents despite growing up on two completely different planets with wildly different cultures?
Why is Faerun Common perfect American English when it's a bastard pidgin of multiple human, elvish, and dwarvish dialects along with a smattering of several other languages?
We will never know.

>height autism again

>>95882366
>You do know the models don't have to be perfectly to scale, right?

The thing is, this game has been perfectly crafted to be 1:60. Like to the mm of the top of the head of the slightest tyranid, eldar, ork, necron, all non marines tanks etc.

There is a single line of miniatures that is 1:75 instead of 1:60.

The Space Marines.

>be me
>primaris space marine
>wake up knowing I'm a solid two-feet taller than the manlets who followed horus
>ten-thousand years later and they're still taking L's
>feels fucking good
>praise be to the emperor of mankind

>>95882376
don't worry, they are still 38mm high instead of 44.

>>95882376

>>95882370
in your dreams
m8 you still haven't named a single "other wargame" from this post
>>95882233
>>Window is literally an open hole
>>"Um actually, that window is closed and you can't shoot through it and you're the retarded one for thinking otherwise."
>This is why 40k players are the laughing stock of the wargaming hobby. You never see these kinds of arguments in other wargames.
you know I'm confident for a reason
you fear my knowledge
you fear your own lack of it
you're trapped with me because you have a death drive to save face on a completely anonymous imageboard
you are trapped humiliating yourself for my pleasure

>>95882376
>Get leg lengthening surgery
>Now have tiny head and hands
Perfection of the human form. Leave heroic scale to the heros. True scale for troopers.

>>95882389
>Perfection of the human form.
Human form is perfect because you can change it and it is still the best in the galaxy.

>>95882389
Space marines were never that well proportioned anyway.

>be me
>master of possessions
>wake up knowing your daemon possessed slaves prepared your favorite meal
>you hold their true names so theyre forced to serve you or fear your punishment
>feels fucking good
>glory for the dark gods

>>95882399
Is that why space elves get you so mad?

>>95882285
Unfortunately, eldars are GSC or Votann-tier faction now in terms of lore influence, so their units number will be reduced, as it happened with their revenants and phantoms

>>95882405
Aren't they still the third or fourth biggest range in the game if you count all the subtypes together?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ld1cnqrg/carry-the-honour-of-the-black-templars-with-a-new-crusade-ancient-and-codex-supplement/

For completely non-sexual and entirely purposeful reasons, would an astartes have saggy balls?

>>95882405
It somehow amazes me that some people STILL want their factions to be involved in GW narratives.

>>95882406
Is it true you suck "mad dick"?

>>95882412
Why do 40k incels spend their time thinking about saggy balls?

>>95882411
>codex-supplement

What's the diameter of small and large flight bases?
I hate those little perspex discs.

>>95882411
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ld1cnqrg/carry-the-honour-of-the-black-templars-with-a-new-crusade-ancient-and-codex-supplement/
THATS SO FUCKING LAME LMAO, LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD OH NO NO NO NO. AND THAT CODEX ART? MY BOY IS LOOKING LIKE A PRIESTS LITTLE TRAUMA BOY HAHAHAHA.

>>95882417
It's important for a narrative thing I'm writing. I'm not even sure if astartes have balls any more.

>>95882411
Meh. He looks okay. Don't care for the helmet too much.

>>95882406
They're the third biggest range even without adding in Dark Eldar

>>95882411
I would be very sad if this were the only model I got for my army this edition. Thankfully, they're still space marines so I have thirty other new models to choose from too.

>>95882425
32mm and 60mm, I think.
You can check on some third party sites that list base sizes.

Is it legal for me to sell my backlog so I no longer have one?

>>95882417
No other community has nearly as many closeted homosexuals as the 40k community.

>>95882422
>no
>mah mareens but wearing black armour don't get their own codex
>mareens but wearing black armour are just a supplement
>a supplement
>how could james betray mareens but wearing black armour like this
>playing mareens is suffering

>>95882411

>>95882413
Man i want cool models, but i dont want than someone like brooks write some shit tier novels about my factions or get narrative from someone like that nonamed guy who wrote phoenix rising. But at same time, only one chance than non space marine faction got new models for them is a involving in narrative. Otherwise, they squat everything, like Illic or Karandras

>>95882446
No. GW will claim you are stealing revenue from them and will sue you.

>>95881250
>https://transfiles.ru/mhtyi
neat

>>95882443
Thanks

So they opened a Warhammer store in Japan this year. I've been curiously following all the Japanese guys getting into 40k and watching them paint.
Some stuff they've produced is absolutely amazing. It's fun to just lurk and watch what they've made. They talented artists doing practically every faction. haven't seen much Tau though

>>95882456
Would you be interested in the Krieg half of a KT box, some Eldar scout bikes and three SM outriders?

>>95882463
>doesn't post a single image
fag

>>95882463
>So they opened a Warhammer store in Japan this year.
I'm pretty sure there was one in Akihabara already in 2022, I walked past it a couple times

>>95882464
No. I will not accept stolen goods.

>>95882451
no I'm complaining that they're doing codex supplements at all

>>95882411
>Supplement
>No Sword Brethren Termies
>Still forced to use Codex Aspect units because Crusaders still have fuck all options and no Gravis variant
9th was the BT 4e of Primaris. Now they're back to being a sidenote until they're soft-squatted and then refreshed AGAIN for Gigaris Marines come 20th Edition

>>95882411
>>95882452

>>95882375
marines were never underscaled, it was only ever guardsmen who were overscaled

>>95882446
experienced used warhammer reseller here. some ground rules

1: NEVER sell for less than 60% MSRP PLUS shipping. warhammer shit retains its value very well, even in mediocre condition. unless it is literally missing parts scrap, dont go lower than that. factor your shipping into the price and if you are shipping more than $100 of models, make sure to buy the insurance, package them well, and photo document the models raw, packaged, and then the sealed package condition before you hand it off in case you need it for insurance purposes (this is mostly for army level sales where $500+ is on the line)

2: routes of sale. FLGS will 100% rip you off. do not sell to a FLGS. it is in their interest to pawnstars you so they can make a buck. personal recommendation is either facebook swap groups or the miniswap subreddit. those are hte routes that will give you the biggest cash return, but its a little riskier and you will have to frequently repost your sale weekly. use paypal goods and services, it offers some buyer/seller protections. do not accept any other payment method whatsoever, anyone suggesting otherwise is a scam. ebay is a more secure route where you can also leave your listing up indefinitely till it sells, and in my experience has a higher success rate, but they also take a 15% cut of the sale, so factor that into your price.

3: do not accept requests to split a miniature collection. people will pick out the good stuff early and you will be left sitting on the models nobody needs or wants for months. sell everything together in relevant collections as a single lot. this will also save you a ton on shipping costs

>>95882481

>>95882474
The army box was a fucking flop dude. No one bought that shit, it was horrible. So yeah, it’s going to lead to the faction being white scarred

>>95882185
Last game was against black templars. Got my ass kicked

>>95882474
im surprised we still havent even gotten generic assault terminators yet. 10th is fucking weird

What army does he play?

>>95882498
Kabals Dark City Mafiosos

>>95882483
Is that you Jack? Think I've bought from you before if so

>>95882497
They are 100% saving them for the 11th edition box set. That will make it sell gangbusters guaranteed no matter what's on the other side of the equation.

>>95882411
Genuinely great.
Not a templars fan specifically but I like that GW is doing this type of stuff with primaris more now.
Good to see armor variation and chapter specific stuff.

>>95882486
marines were 7 feet tall, not whatever bullshit you think

>>95882508
not jack

>>95882411
kitbash tier pity hero

>>95882519

>>95882519
Firstborn are 8ft tall, primaris are 9-10ft tall.

>>95882185
Last game was Custodes vs World Eaters. I won and sadly it wasn't close

>>95882474
>Supplement
What the fuck were you expecting, an entire parallel range of marines for your generic crusader marines?

>>95882529
wrong, firstborn are 7', primaris are 8'

>>95882536
Nah.
Firstborn are 8ft tall, primaris are 9-10ft.

>>95882536
Whatever you say, gaybo.

>>95882536
Firstborn are 8ft tall, primaris are 9-10ft. As per every cannon media.

>>95882548
>cannon

>>95882411
Deus Vult xD

>>95882481
If you can't reverse a 1:60 scale, you're too dumb to play this game.
Reversing the scale lends the cadian at 5'11.
First born models are barely 6'2.

>>95882559
feel free to post something that will improve its quality

>>95882362
nope

>>95882542
>>95882550
Wrong, gw was and still is very explicit in the fact firstborn are 7' tall and primaris are 8' tall.

>>95882548
>>95882542
Poor marinepiggies

>>95882530
>Shit Eaters
lmao

>>95882498
Who?

>>95882578
>win 7 feet of GW kits
lmao that wouldn't even be a prize, it'd be a curse
imagine adding two fucking meters to your pile of shame

>>95882585
You.

>>95882587
>Have plenty of models
>Get 7' in paints
Lmaooooo

Can somebody spoon feed me what are the current rumors and if they line up with todays BT model

>that art
Lmao

>>95882590
Me?
I play SoB and Tau.

>>95882591
Nope. It clearly says Citadel miniatures. Learn to read.

>>95880087
Post source.

>>95882596
No not you. You.

>>95882556
I know what I said; eldar, orks, necrons, nids, are all meant to be way taller than guardsmen too, your entire post about scale is bullshit.

>>95882599

so whats the point of sentinels? to just kind of be obnoxiously in the way/screening? seems like their weapon options are kinda crap for a light walker

>>95882577
>>95882578
>b-but GW said
Eat poopoo and perish, I don't care.

>>95882615

>>95882622
Why don't you go read the wiki article on them? Mufuggas literally have the entirety of human knowledge at your disposal on the internet and you still askin' other people questions.

>>95882626
>I don't care
Doesn't look like it, or you wouldn't have a single issue with stating the fact that the canonical height for marines is 7' for firstborn and 8' for primaris.

>>95880087
>Mike Brooks

>>95882652
>you replied you care!
Ah ah.
I cared about replying to your post and posting mine.
I don't care what GW thinks.

2 different things, buddy.

>>95880087
>at will
Fortunately, eldar society is structured around not having mental illnesses.

>>95882577
no I'm calling you a retard for using cannon instead of canon

>>95882643
>dont talk about the traditional game in the thread about the main traditional game on the forum dedicated to traditional games. go read a wiki instead

everyting wrong with da yoofs today. nobody wants ta 'ave a konversashun

>>95882657
You're a liar and a coward, or you would simply state that firstborn are 7' tall and primaris are 8' tall, as per canon, and be done with it.

>>95882663
>Unc still thinks people have conversations

>"Since galaxy has gone to shit, then you're nothing than another maggot festering in the pile."
>"All right, the truth then... You're right about one thing, I do need resources and connections with all the factions. Wanna know why? "I have a dream.""
>"What?"
>"That one day every person in this galaxy will control their OWN destiny. A world of TRULY free. dammit!"
>"A galaxy at PEACE, not war. Ruled by STRENGTH and FORCE OF WILL, not by BLIND FAITH!
>"Where the life changes to suit the individual, not the other way around. Where power and fate are back where they belong: in the hands of the people! Where every man is free to think - - to act - - for himself"
>"Fuck all these limp-dick Chaos Gods, and chicken shit daemon princes!"
>"Fuck this 24/7 noosphere speal of Imperium bureocracy and Mechanicus bullshit!
>"Fuck "human pride", fuck the Xenos!"
>"Fuck all of it!"
>"Galaxy is diseased, rotten to the core. There's no saving it.
>We need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN!"
>"And from the new galaxy will be born. Evolved, but untamed!"
>"The weak will be purged, and the strongest will thrive - - free to live as they see fit, they'll make the galaxy great again!"

>>95882663
>"Back in my day" ahh comment.

>>95880709
i have just kitbashed Cypher. Fastest kitbash of my life.

what marine units do you lot think will be in the 11e starter box, which ones are due for a refresh?

shrikes when? the damn warrior kit is probably older than most of its players at this point

>>95882668
>You're a liar
Nah.
I just don't give a shit what some corpo faggots think.
If you want to think the same as GW you are welcome to. I just won't.
My headcanon > GW fluff > your headcanon. And by GW's own philosophy I am right.

Shrimple as that.

Beaters muh weeners.

>>95882706

>>95882709
this but unironically

>>95882688
>what marine units do you lot think will be in the 11e starter box, which ones are due for a refresh?
Vanguard vets, assault terminators, gravis lieutenant. It's going to be spectacularly ghey.

>>95882694
The fact you once again avoided stating what's canon and instead scurried to defend your right to your fanfiction, proves you are a coward.

Having a headcanon in the first place proves you care and have a problem with the fact firstborn are 7' tall and primaris are 8' tall.


If you didn't care you wouldn't have a problem stating what's true.

>>95882706
>firstborn are 8ft tall on average
Manlets in shambles

>>95882689
ive still got the warriors i bought in 2003, no idea if i could field them though

>>95882720
>b-but you avoided canon
Nigger, I've already stated my opinion on it like 3 times. Not my fault you can't read for shit. And it is the same, I don't give a shit.
This isn't a gotcha moment, you're just an illiterate fag.
Highly evidenced by the reddit spacing you use. Please leave.

>>95882723
it is literally still that same kit. they retooled it in like 2010 to add in some bone swords and a few extra bits for the squad leader, but otherwise its the exact same sprues

>>95882706
>trusting redditors
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/mo9yNrni/must-watch-the-armouring-of-a-space-marine/

>Primaris Marines are the Emperor’s will made manifest. Eight-foot transhuman behemoths
>The video was made in close collaboration with the Warhammer Studio, from lore experts to miniatures designers. It firmly counts as canon – be under no illusion

>>95882720
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

>>95882727
I see you crying but I don't see you saying the one thing that would actually prove you don't care about this: the canon height of firstborn is 7' and the canon height of primaris is 8'.

Until then, back to >>95882720

>>95882732
>Eight-foot transhuman behemoths

Anon, they're talking naked marines, the thread is talking in armor. Read the room.

>>95882732
It's the firstborn height, naked.

Not the Primaris, armored.

>this thread right now

>>95882214
not mine but I can ask.

>>95882732
>>Primaris Marines are the Emperor’s will made manifest. Eight-foot transhuman behemoths

>Primaris Marines
>Primaris Marines
>Primaris Marines

Bro why did you change the text of the official warhammer page to prove your point ?
It clearly does not state primaris. This is a copy paste of their old saying, like when they present firstborn in HH news.

>>95882754
The thread is coping, the soles of power armor's, or terminator armour's, boots don't add that much. firstborn in armour reach 7' >>95882578 while primaris in armour are one foot taller than firstborn in armour, so 8'.

>>95882779
>Primaris Marines
That's what the video is about, that marine is 8' tall, primaris are the new standard marines, and the new standard marine is 8' tall, while the firstborn are consistently described as one foot shorter, and were in fact long canonised as 7' tall >>95882578.

>>95882791
>That's what the video is about
Irrelevant.
The article only says "space marines". It means all space marines are 8ft tall.

>>95882779
>This is a copy paste of their old saying
They never presented firstborn as 8' tall, only as 7' tall.

>>95882426
> LOOKING LIKE A PRIESTS LITTLE TRAUMA BOY HAHAHAHA.

It's almost like space marines, especially black templars, are space warrior monks

>>95882797
>It means all space marines are 8ft tall.
It literally cannot be because firstborn are canonically one foot shorter in all material where there's an actual comment on the height difference.
The new standard is 8' because primaris are the new standard and are 8' tall, one foot taller than the 7' tall firstborn.

>>95882779
Regular space marines only primaris now, no one care about manlets

>>95882706
I just had a realization.
Has any canon source ever mentioned the height difference? Is that entirely an artifact of the models scale difference and not actually in the lore?

>>95882810
>It literally cannot be because firstborn are canonically one foot shorter
Yeah, firstborn, who are space marines, are 8ft tall.
Them being 1 foot shorter than primaris, means that primaris are 9ft tall.
Very simple math.

WIP on this particular night lord who seems like he really enjoys his job

>>95882824
>Has any canon source ever mentioned the height difference?
BL does it.

>>9588284
What books?
Do they refer to Primaris as taller or just bigger?

Why is he deleting his posts? Very weird.

>>95882688
refreshed Tacts Gravis LT, Gravis Las/Grav squad, Venerable Redemptor Chassis and Assault Termies led by Judiciar in Terminator Armour

>>95882824
>Has any canon source ever mentioned the height difference?
Yes, all books released at the launch of primaris, it's consistently noted by both allied firstborn, and enemy chaos marines, that primaris are one head, or one foot, taller than a firstborn marine.

>>95882688
Wishlisting
>Assault termies
>primaris tacticals
>venerable redemptor that takes design cues from pic related
>veterans in gravis armor
>gravis with lascannons and grav weapons

Why is modern 40k so fake and gay? Is it the primarchs? I'm blaming primarchs.

>>95882895
It's the marinefags.

>>95882895
>Why is modern 40k so fake and gay?
It's because of you.

>>95882621
They don't change biologically, they just change mentally and spiritually.

>>95882895
Primarchs are a side effect of it. The truth is that GW wants the Imperium to be more marketable to sell more Marines, si the grimdark aspects of the Imperium have been toned down while promoting Marines and Guardsmen to be more heroic and upstanding, relegating other factions to just be labelled as the weekly cartoon villains who the heroes get to beat up on.

>>95882930
>si the grimdark aspects of the Imperium have been toned down
They haven't been though?

>>95882729
just looked up the data sheet, looks like they still equipped with a legal loadout (4 deathspitters, 2 venom cannons). jeez between these guys, the 5th ed hive tyrant & carnifex, a bunch of gaunts and the tyranid half of the leviathan box that i still havent bothered to put together i might have enough units to play a second army

>>95882895
It's the primarchs, anon. The fandom was already retarded and clapped like seals at TTS bringing back primarchs (which was a parody not meant to be taken seriously) in a fan series, and started saying retarded shit like "TTS should be canon." GW saw this, and brought back primarchs to appease the retards. The retards clapped like seals, as predicted, but instead of 40k resembling their favorite reddit comedy series it instead just became bolter porn on steroids. And bolter porn is fake. And gay. And not grimdark. It's just marvelhammer 40k now.

>>95882888
who is sharon? is she your missus?

I think unless the Codex 2.0 rumor pans out then the Space Marines just have characters in the pipeline. I mean, refreshed Outriders, Assault Termies, and Vanguard Vets would be a good sell for a 11th edition Starter Box.

>>95882935
>primaris marines giving cloaks to freezing refugees
>belisarius cawl slowly repairing Sotha because of retarded "durrrr tyranids don't go underground, even though they explicitly have several units that tunnel underground" nulore
>belisarius cawl having a plan to close the great rift
>more imperial miracles than ever
>nurgle getting roflstomped by the emperor
>angron getting roflstomped by the Lion
>guilliman replacing several high lords with more reasonable individuals who also happen to get models and appear on battlefields for some asinine fucking reason
>custodes running around being golden banana babies and saving planets
>ghazghkull getting his fucking head chopped off by ragnar ("oh but don't worry he got a bigger body" shut the fuck up)
>marinewank worse than ever
>Imperium is depicted as unironic goodie two shoes

Yeah bro, sure

>>95882895
40k battles used to be about the unremarkable Captain Fuckface defending a planet from one trillion cannibal aliens and ending the story quoting "Rage! Rage against the dying of the light!" as he is vivisected by daemons.
Now it's a Marvel capeslop wrestling match where Guillimam fights Ghazghkull for the 1000th time and no one dies because obscure british copyright law nuked customization

>height arguments again

>>95882977
every fucking thread

>>95882973
>angron getting roflstomped
That one is just Tuesday.
Remember that Angron can't conquer a planet. Something that a random genestealer can do

>>95882977
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone gives a shit about this, absolutely fucking retarded

>>95882976
There is a reason why GSC is the only army that feels 40k.
No named characters everyone is a random fuck.
In other words every other faction in 40k are NPC for GSC to face as your dudes.

>>95882973
And tell me how any of this removes the actual horrific shit Imperium still does? Which still exists and is highlighted in the codexes and in the BL books?
>>Imperium is depicted as unironic goodie two shoes
This alone proves you're a lying faggot.

>>95882973
>primaris marines giving cloaks to freezing refugees
That was a custodes. Its to show how a custodes doesnt care about material things while everyone around him was freaking out over the girl who received the relic. "It's just a cloak." Said by the custodes shows the difference in perspecrive between the Emperor's companions and the ultra religious battle sisters.
You didnt even get this one right, not bothering to read the rest of your inane rambling.

>>95882988
Some people just prefer to disregard the lore at a whim because they don't care.
This enrages some people here.

> Black templar ancient rumour is real

And anons still doubt picrel

>>95882973
cawl's plans are bullshit, especially the one about terraforming back sotha, he's lying in order to get the dumb marines to trust him, running on assumptions he's not actually tested, and explicitly handwaving HUNDREDS of years of unreasonably expensive haulings of resources from other planets, just to make sotha's biosphere pass for something that looks self sustainable again.

>>95882973
>>belisarius cawl having a plan to close the great rift
Having a plan makes things less grimdark? Really?

>>95883016
You say this, but then GW will have him close the Rift or something and reset it back to just the Eye of Terror, Maelstrom and other smaller warp storms while simultaneously bringing back Sanguinius or some other dumb shit.

I mean, people were saying for years that "they won't bring another loyalist primarch back, Guilliman being all alone is peak grimdark and that's why it's good for the setting" and then they brought back the Lion

>>95883007
If you didn't care you wouldn't feel the need to disregard lore so basic, simple and straightforward as the one of firstborn being 7' tall.

>>95883030
Why do I need to care if marines are 7ft tall? Why can't I change it?

>mediocre model that should've been part of last release
>no terminator bits
>no new upgrade sprue
>codex SUPPLEMENT
>fml
GW had us fucking fooled for a whole edition
BACK TO BEING NO-CODEX KEKS
>>95882426
>>95882411

>>95882973
I am a lorelet and only just started learning how to paint these but i thought chaos has been fucking shit up previously? Is the galaxy not still split in half or whatever? I figuered it was just the emperors turn in the light now.

>>95883029
>You say this, but then GW will have him close the Rift
No, they won't.

Other loyalist primarchs coming back was telegraphed from miles away.

>>95883024
Lack of hope is what makes things grimdark, retard. This is why Warhammer World needs to get the Timothy McVeigh treatment.

>>95883032
Why do you feel the need to change it? why don't you change it to make them smaller?

>>95883034
>codex SUPPLEMENT
you do NOT want to be treated like the world eaters.

It looks like we're going back to Tiers where DA BA SW get full releases and the BT/DW/first founding legions get supplements/indexes

>>95883043
>Why do you feel the need to change it?
Because I think it's cooler that way.
Why do you care if somebody changes it?

>>95883024
Yes.

>>95883036
Lack of hope is what makes things grimdark. Giving the Imperium a power boost goes against that.

It would've been more in-line with the setting for the Imperium to balkanize upon the Great Rift's formation and Guilliman's return, and also a perfect hobby reason for Imperium vs Imperium battles that happen so often on the table due to the popularity of Imperium factions. I mean, Adeptus Titanicus literally made up the Horus Heresy to justify only having Imperial Titans in the first boxed set, it only makes sense to give people more good reasons for Imperials to kill each other

>>95883041
>Lack of hope is what makes things grimdark, retard.
Oh ok, I guess that means anytime some guard general or whatever comes up with a plan then 40k is noblebright then.
Good to know.

>>95883064
Small scale stuff is fine. Galaxy scale hopeful plans that can feasibly be pulled off? Hell no. It's part of why Rick Priestley is rightfully fucking assmad in all the interviews where he talks about modern 40k raping the setting he originally wrote, that sort of shit just shouldn't be a factor in 40k

>>95883059
>Giving the Imperium a power boost goes against that.
GW gave everyone a power boost.
And if you actually read any of the new material you'd know that the Imperium is more fucked than ever and Cawl and primaris have literally changed fuck all.
Even Guilliman's reaction to the Imperium and being forced to lead it (no other actual alternative) is basically pic related.

>>95883059
>>95883072
So the galaxy just never gets better and only constantly degrades with no improvement? That does not seem like a good long term plan for this lore.

>>95883072
I thought Rick Priestley was more upset about characters and factions traveling from one side of the galaxy to the other in relatively short periods of time, alongside the metanarrative existing in general, than anything having to do with hope?

Isn't he the one who wrote the Star-Child nonsense, after all?

>>95883072
Retard, Cawl having a "plan" about closing the Great Rift is in the same ballpark as Belakor or Vashtorr ascending into godhood.
Aka pure delusion that is never happening.

And again, just because Cawl has an idea or a plan for something, does not mean shit. It doesn't make anything more better.
The Rift is constantly expanding and every year it is eating up more and more planets into the Warp despite Cawl's best efforts. This is rulebook and codex lore btw.

>>95883078
Yes it does. You are a tourist and you should have been gatekept.

>>95880899
Somehow you pulled off a painting project that should not have worked. And yet you made it work. I'm proud of you anon.
>dog ripped up three of them
Why the fuck?

>>95883055
>Because I think it's cooler that way.
Why? They're already supersoldiers way taller than a normal human, what's the problem with them being "merely" 7 feet tall? Why do you have this height complex specifically?

>>95883085
ESL nigger, it's a shame it's too late to gatekeep you. I was referring to anon's hypothetical not the actual state of things now.

>>95883091
>Why?
Just because.
And you didn't answer my question.
Why do you care if somebody changes the lore to suit their own?

I can't wait for each Traitor Primarch to have its own redemption arc

>>95883091
That extra foot gives the imperium too much hope

>>95883102
Has there ever been a chaos something be it human or marine that ever got redeemed in 40k?

>>95883094
Huh? You're the ESL. Probably American to boot. Kys don't ever reply to me again

>>95883078
That's what made the setting such a goddamned compelling sandbox to play in for 30 years, anon. That's why people liked 40k from 1987-2017. It's why the Imperial Armour books are the fucking peak of 40k sourcebooks. It's evocative. It's unlike most other major sci-fi IPs. It makes it stand out, and it's the perfect setup for a wargaming hobby.

When people asked for plot progression on this board before the changes were introduced, they weren't (usually) asking for that to change, they just wanted the setting to stop shoving every new bit of fluff into 999.M41. They wanted to see loyalist primarchs returning as broken shadows of their former selves who the Imperium would try to crucify, and that's even hinted at having happened before with the mysterious "War of the False Primarch" conflict existing. They wanted more opportunities for hobby, a bigger sandbox so to speak.

And that's not what we got.

Isn't closing the great rift just a reset to the pre-8th status quo

>>95883113
Is the Great Rift actually closing in the 40k narrative?
Lore source if true?

>>95883112
>And that's not what we got.
You did get it. You're just mad that the toys you got aren't the ones you wished for.

>>95883117
>Is the Great Rift actually closing in the 40k narrative?
Not at all. It's doing the very opposite.
Nobody here actually reads the fluff at all and they just get mad at the shadows projected onto the wall like they are inside Plato's cave or whatever that shit is called.

>>95883119
In the hobby about the toys I think that's a pretty reasonable thing to be mad about

>>95883109
Don't think so. The Chaos Gods are just soooo powerful....

>>95883126
>Not at all. It's doing the very opposite.
Thanks!
I don't get much lore updates because I only trust codexes and I seem to miss all the PDF downloads so I'm pretty in the dark when it comes to new fluff.

>>95883099
>Just because.
That's not an answer.

Why do you have a height complex for marines?

>>95880216
Waiting to see if 11th edition gives us a full range of usable detachments, instead of just war horde and taktikal. Painting in the meantime

>>95883129
Retard, you've recently gotten more toys than before.
Or did you forget Horus Heresy from existing?
Just use that shit, whiner.

>>95883111
>nuh uhhhh no u kys it was never like this!!
>>95883112
>it used to be like this and that's what made it so good!
you guys are funny
I still don't really get it, it just sounds like you want the imperium to canonically lose after a couple decades of eating shit, how do they survive with no hope and no larger victories?

>>95883112
THIS. People wanted plot progression so they could have more opportunities for Your Dudes goodness. We wanted something like the Eye of Terror campaign from 3rd edition, but done repeatedly, with Your Dudes affecting what happens next, who wins, who loses, etc.

Well, we got the plot progression part, but now Your Dudes take a backseat to the special characters, mainly superhero-like primarchs to whom Your Dudes are but a pale shadow in comparison to. This is nothing like the Eye of Terror campaign, this is more like fucking Warmahordes. And I fucking hated Warmahordes.

>>95882681
For once when visiting this site I genuinely smiled reading something like what you posted.

>>95883142
>That's not an answer.
It is. I like it because it is cool.
And again, you're just deflecting and not answering my question.
Why do you care if someone changes the fluff? I know what you're doing.

>>95883153
They're not going to survive, that used to the point

>>95883164
>It is.
No, it's not, you're running in circles.

Why do you have a height complex for marines?

>>95883166
It's a 40 year old franchise if they followed this the imperium would have already lost and the game would be over.

>>95883153
>it just sounds like you want the imperium to canonically lose after a couple decades of eating shit

We didn't want the setting to end, we just wanted more battles to fight in. More global campaigns where our decisions actually affect the metanarrative. You know Helldivers 2? Like that, but in tabletop form.

And yeah, eventually the Imperium would eventually lose because all lore pointed in that direction anyway, and that "raging against the dying of the light" is what makes the Imperium so charming to begin with. Maybe even have it fracture or something, that'd be awesome.

One of the better examples of the sort of thing fans wanted was the old 50k fanfic from 2010. Wasn't perfect, there's some complete retardation written into it, but the general direction is awesome and what we expected from any sort of plot progression. Hint: things get even darker

>>95883154
But isn't one of the main complaints been that the lion has basically done nothing
Like even in the most recent book it's a bunch of generic Marines and IG and GK fighting World Eaters

>>95883172
>No, it's not, you're running in circles.
I'm not. I gave you an answer, you just aren't happy with it.
And again, you're deflecting. Answer my question, but I have a feeling you won't.

>>95883180
>it should have been my grimderp fanfic!!!!
Grim

>>95883154
>People wanted plot progression so they could have more opportunities for Your Dudes goodness.
And you got it.

>>95883182
>the Lion has done basically nothing

>>95881542
>tfw making decent pay working on b2b SaaS software
skill issue

>>95883186
>I gave you an answer
No, you didn't, you effectively said you wanted them that way because you wanted them that way, you didn't give an actual reason.

Plenty of things can be cooler by making them bigger, but you have a height complex only and specifically for marines and you refuse to admit why.

Why do you have a height complex for marines?

>Imperium has been torn in two, many systems completely lost or destroyed, chaos as strong as ever, the last hope of the Eldar jobbed, Nids are everywhere, Orks got a super prophet and the biggest waaaghs ever, Crimson fists almost wiped out completely again, GSC have infiltrated much of the Imperium, the Imperium loses 90% of modern fluff battles and a good number of their named characters like Yarrick and Creed got fucking iced and there's a guy spawncamping living saints
>NOOO! IT'S TOO OPTIMISTIC FOR THE IMPERIUM
Starting to think most of the people here don't know shit about the lore.

>>95883150
you could always give dread mob a try, its kinda fun

Can I get some help, /40kg/?
A good friend of mine I've known since high school's birthday is coming up in three months. And I want to be prepared.
He's interested in 40k and wants to play space marines.
Is pic related a good starter collection of paints along with the marine juice concoction I've seen mentioned here a few times?
I'm throwing in some bulk brushes too.
Would a box of intercessors be a good starting point for marines as well?

>>95883208
what did the horus heresy teach you about b2b sales, anon?

>>95883220
>>Imperium has been torn in two, many systems completely lost or destroyed
They've only told us is, they haven't shown us this, we've had stuff set in the "dark" imperium and it's literally the same trite shit it always was.
The rift is a disappointment for worldbuilding.

>>95882185
2v2, Orks+world eaters vs necrons+dark angels. They focused on my boyz long enough for the world eaters to kill everything.

>>95883229
Gift him a character, it's less challenging and there's a shit ton of them to choose

>>95883210
>No, you didn't
I did. You're just not happy or satisfied with it, but that is not my problem. You're the one going in circles now. And you proved my assumption correct like I expected.

Here's my final answer to you because I'm don't care to waste more of your time, you must be busy.
I think marines being taller makes them cooler. Have fun.

>>95883180
I guess I am glad things aren't as grimdark. Ive seen a billion "rage against the dying of the light" stories edgy shit im glad it died in the 90s. I want to see how humanity can win against the dying of the light, and making it about that means they can sell these toys for all eternity.

>>95883229
No idea about the marine juice but you're going to need some metallic paint

>>95883220
I think it's because the majority of the marketing (except the 10th edition trailer) doesn't depict the Imperium as being the side that is losing.

I mean, look at the 9th edition trailer for example. It's just SoB and Marines fighting necrons heroically, almost gives off the sense that things are an even stalemate or that they might pull off a win. Then you watch Pariah Nexus and immediately find out all those guys died horribly, but almost no one watched Pariah Nexus compared to the 9th ed trailer.

Same goes for SM2, which is similar to SM1 in that all the grimdark stuff is in the background while the story itself is just ultramarines stomping xenos and chaos into the dirt. Which is typical for bolter porn, so seasoned lore vets will know that it's just a small victory in an ocean of loss, but a casual fan isn't going to get the sense of "oh shit, we're fucking losing" from that.

Until the marketing is way more explicit about this, even moreso than the 10th edition trailer is, I doubt it'll change. Remember that stuff like Halo literally has "we are losing" told to the player in a title crawl for ODST, whereas secondary materials for 40k rarely do this, and that secondary or even tertiary material is the only thing casual fans consume

>>95883248
>Gift him a character
He's talked about essentially homebrewing his own guys so would a lieutenant marine count as a character?
I've also realized I need to get some primer so an 18ml vallejo primer bottle will be included as well.

>>95883240
>They've only told us is, they haven't shown us this
They've talked about this quite a lot when it comes to the Imperium Nihilus. Like many planets and systems there think they are actually the last remnants of humanity.
Many imploding into heresy from desperation, some standing stalwart, some just plain disappearing.

You've been given a big sandbox to fuck around in and do what you want. You just don't do anything with it.

>>95883258
>but you're going to need some metallic paint
I never thought of that until you posted that. I don't know how I forgot about metallics.
Thanks anon!
LGS sells Pro Acryl Silver so maybe that's good enough.
Trying to keep it bare bones here.

>>95883250
>You're the one going in circles now
I'm only repeating myself because you're going in circles in the first place.

Why do you have such a height complex for marines that you NEED them to be even taller than they canonically are?

>>95883261
Yeah, I meant a lieutenant or any of those, not stuff like Guilliman

>>95880018
>"Setting stabilizers ready to fire"

>>95883248
>>95883229
meet in middle and get company heroes
low mini count but all unique, lots of bits
can just proxy as a bunch of leaders if he starts playing

>>95883268
>They've talked about this
That's the thing, they only said it happens, they haven't shown anything from that, nor any consequence of it at any point where they had to touch on places that are in that half.
It's not a sandbox because there's no box, it's not structured, it's just sand, and that's an empty desert, not a sandbox.

>>95883278
If your LGS has Vallejo Metal Colour metallics grab one of their darker silvers. They're straight up the best metallics and while they're meant to be airbrushed you can brush them out of the pot, and a single pot will last multiple armies

>>95883281
Thanks for clarifying anon!
I appreciate it.
I'll check the LGS to see if they have the the semi-customizable space marine lieutenant.
>pic related
>>95883288
I kind of want to keep it small and not lump a bunch of models on him in case he finds out this hobby isn't for him.

>can put icon of chaos on legionary champion
>can't put icon of flame on rubric aspiring sorcerer
Huh??

>>95883240
Rogue Trader is set in the Dark Imperium and the Kronos Expanses is so ridiculously fucked and cut off from everything thanks to warp storms that it takes almost divine intervention to stabilize
Half of their Marines are all gone

Deathmarks should have the same movement ability the transcendent Ctan has.
Being able to reposition 9" from enemies anywhere in the field at the cost of it counting as an advance move.
Conveys their lore skills better and makes them more fun IMO

>>95883224
You're right, it's fun in casual games. My main issue is that so many of our detachments are so keyword-restricted that it's hard to fill out a full 2k list of relevant units. Like I only have 500 points of speed freeks models. Compare it to the majority of space marine detachments where they're worded to apply to any space marine units.

>>95883299
>If your LGS has Vallejo Metal Colour metallics grab one of their darker silvers.
It doesn't unfortunately.
But I heard good things about pro acryl that the LGS sells so maybe I can get away with it.
I'll get the tamiya plastic cement as well. And a white glossy ceramic tile to be used as a palette. Those things are sold at the hardware store for less than 75 Canadian cents a piece with tax included. Maybe even less than half of that if I recall correctly. I remember buying a single one once.

I appreciate the suggestions, anons!
I'll be checking for more suggestions if I missed anything.
My friend does gunpla so he has the basic tools like a cutting mat and hobby knife, files and sprue cutters.

>>95883322
What's up with the comically oversized neural disintegrator?

>>95883323
Yeah I'm getting sick of it too, I have a fair few ork units now and I'd struggle to field an army that isn't war horde or green tide.

>>95882416
>storm bolter s4
if they made bolters hit harder then the marinefag whining would just shift to how they die too easily to bolters now and need to be tougher to feel more ~e l i t e~
then once getting made tougher its right back to moaning about how bolters just don't feel punchy enough when shooting into the 5W T8 intercessors

>>95882416
Space Marine 2 made me realize that design wise the previous Cadians are just fine the way they are. It makes me have debates with myself on whether I prefer the previous ones or the new ones because I like them both now.

>>95883348
Storm Bolters should get a rule that adds AP when at close range so units like Termies have some solid shooting while close

>>95881754
>1:60 scale
but manlet marines are 3,5cm tall, that's exactly what's needed to make them 7 feet in that scale.

>>95883333
its called perspective.

Check out my friend's poorhammer (ignore the table, we improvised it)
>>95883235
should I have learned something about b2b from the HH?

>>95883317
I'm guessing that it means you won't be able to put the chaos icon on your champion come 11th edition.

>>95883412
I got 6 images and no image editor so we're in for the long haul

>>95883423
The amount of flamers threatening overwatch was a pain to deal with, thankfully I could play from behind and make up the difference in challenge cards

>>95883428
>ignore a secondary to get a 6vp disadvantage and 1 cp, get 3vp for free
balanced

>>95883418
...Why do they do this?

>>95883436
"""balance"""

>>95883435
bonk duel

>>95883412
Absolute kino

>>95883444
dynamite delivery coming up

do deldar have actual reasons for tormenting themselves and others, all while on drugs, or is it just genetics? also post big eldar booba before bread dies.

>>95883460
Anon that is the type of question you ca just fucking google
Jesus christ

>>95883204
I'm fascinated by this phenomena. GW must be dying from constipation to shart all over the fluff.

>>95883477
It's an eldarfag wanting to shift the general's attention to the space elves. Just ignore him.

>>95883091
>Why? They're already supersoldiers way taller than a normal human

Here's why the idea of Space Marines being "just" 7 feet tall doesn't quite work with the Immaterium-sized population:

Real-world Rarity: On our Earth today, with roughly 8 billion people, there are already about 4,000 individuals who are 7 feet tall or more, without any genetic modification. This is a ratio of roughly one 7-footer for every 2 million people.

Terra's Population Problem: Now, let's port that ratio to Holy Terra in 40K, a world estimated to house at least 10 quadrillion people. If that ratio holds, Terra alone would be home to a staggering 5 trillion individuals who are 7 feet tall or more. That's just one planet!

Space Marines vs. Tall Humans: Consider the entire Adeptus Astartes. Even with the most generous estimates of 1,000 Chapters, each with 1,000 Space Marines, the total number of Space Marines in the galaxy is only 1 million.

This means there are 5 million times more random, non-gene-engineered humans over 7 feet tall on Terra alone than there are Space Marines in the entire Imperium!

If Space Marines were merely 7 feet tall, they wouldn't be awe-inspiring supersoldiers. They'd be statistically insignificant. You could reliably find a million 8-foot-tall normal humans for each and every single individual Space Marine, just on Terra.

In a setting with millions of worlds, a Space Marine would be about as remarkable as a random police officer. Their imposing presence and perceived rarity would be completely undermined by the sheer number of naturally enormous humans.

Also, that would mean that Space Marines are chosen in infancy in the lowest tiers of humans genetics if they are only 7ft AFTER undergoing the transformation.

>>95883460
all eldar have slaanesh at the backdoor of their soul constantly scraping at their spirit essence
the more emotional, passionate, hedonistic and psychically active/close to the warp, they are, the more slaanesh consumes their soul, eventually killing them way sooner than their normal lifespan would dictate
normal eldar life ascetic lives where they practice mindfulness and control of their psychic selves, in order to not get fed on by slaanesh
harlequins relinquish their souls to the clown god, who apparently can keep his small sect of clowns relatively safe, and on top of that they give up their egos for performance roles, not too differently from how normal eldar dissociate themselves from the passions and tragedies of war by wearing the literal and metaphorical mask of the aspects of khaine when at war
exodites live on maiden worlds that possess an active world spirit, which shields them from most attentions of the warp, on top of living relatively simple bucolic lives in touch with nature
corsairs like to live dangerously and prefer relatively short lives of passion over unadventurous ones, and in any case they don't necessarily remain corsairs all their lives and I'd guess their small groups don't attract the attentions of slaanesh as much as the large concentrations of eldar in actual cities and worlds
dark eldar didn't want to give up ANY sort of hedonistic pleasure, and instead stunt their psychic powers, live in the webway where they're mostly protected from the attentions of the warp, and have found out that they can replenish the parts of their souls that slaanesh consumes by eating the souls of others extracted by inflicting pain and slaaneshi-adjacent shit on them rather than themselves.

>>95883514
consider that
a)most 7 feet people in modern day are already lanklets
b)most humans in 40k are malnourished

>>95883514
>If that ratio holds
It doesn't, when you scale up populations the extremes of the distributions don't scale up linearly.

Space marines aren't selected from children with gigantism, but healthy humans, the main characteristic isn't height, but endurance and genetic compatibility with the geneseed, which you're going to find in the average humans more than in the genetic extremes.

Which is why they don't make marines from ogryns or longshanks, like you would evidently want.

>>95883528
doesn't matter the least for galatic scale eugenic selections of top genetic candidates. They'll be fed and pumped of steroid.

>>95883514
Kind of falls flat already when there are in fact millions of a human sub-species that are bigger than space marines. And who the average person is far more likely to encounter and be saved by.

>>95883514
>They'd be statistically insignificant.
Space marines already are statistically insignificant on the galactic scale,

>>95883532
>Which is why they don't make marines from ogryns or longshanks, like you would evidently want.

No that's because they are both abhumans, retard.

>>95883532
>Space marines aren't selected from children with gigantism, but healthy humans, the main characteristic isn't height, but endurance and genetic compatibility with the geneseed, which you're going to find in the average humans more than in the genetic extremes.

Read the lore of Cadia. The average Cadian, is a muscle bound 6'3 super soldier already. They can pump those in the Trillions.
A random boy from cadia would be more than 7' in a power armor, without any geneseed or anything.

>>95883536
I can't seem to find art of Ogryns with lasgun-volleyguns with those armoured wires hooked up to electron charge backpacks like the tempestus scions have.
It would be fitting for ogryns really.

>>95883516
Posting questions just to respond to then yourself is poor form, anon. Nobody gives a fuck about Eldar.

Holy fucking shit I finally took a look at the datasheets and why does every space marine unit get a super special ability?

Intercessors get double the attacks just for the squad only shooting at 1 target which you would do anyway because focusing fire is a good tactic.
>Hellblasters get shoot on death even due to their own hazardous tests killing them
Eradicators get re-roll hit, wound, and damage rolls?
>Their leaders are all beatstick statlines and all provide gigantic buffs too.
And oath of moments free re-rolls being a kill that 1 specific unit is a pretty good army ability too and am I understanding wahapedia correclty that if you don't have certain chapter keywords in your army it also adds +1 to the wound roll?

Like what the fuck, space marines are playing on easy mode.

>>95883548
>The average Cadian, is a muscle bound 6'3 super soldier already.
Can't imagine those guys can run 40mph on average, spit acid, stand naked bathed in radiation, or gain memories from human brains.

>>95883548
>The average Cadian, is a muscle bound 6'3 super soldier already
no, it isn't

and random necromunda gangers can produce roided freaks bigger than marines, the point of the geneseed isn't to make the tallest human possible, but to turn a normal human into a supersoldier, which is super not just by height.

>>95883562
Schizo

>>95883563
Most units in the game have an ability now.

>>95883576
Yeah but fuck those are some good abilities.

>>95883435
>the only thing not poor hammered is the kit with the worst price of point ratio

absolute cinema

>>95883583
I mean, Fire Dragons are basically a strictly better Eradicator for the exact same role.
And Oath is one of the weaker army rules in the game because of how limiting it can be.

>>95883597
Don't have an eldar player around here so never once fough them but that sounds super gay. and oath of moment is considered a weaker fucking ability? Damn what the fuck am I just living under a 40k rock somehow?

>>95883548
>A random boy from cadia would be more than 7' in a power armor, without any geneseed or anything.
PA doesn't have platform stiletto heels, you're thinking of the Blanche deathcult assassins.
PA is only going to give you around 6" in height.

>>95883563
Are you dumb?

>>95880958
>>95881042
>>95881058
>>95881941
It's 2025 of our lord, you don't have to pretend you're heterosexual and like roided muscular woman, just admit you're raging faggots and make peace with the eternal lake of fire instead of pushing your disgusting faggotry.

>already here is another aspect of khaine an ancient martial art with thousands of years of history and resignment behind it
>what amazing skills do they learn
>they are just really really good at using meltaguns