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>>95884634 (OP)
https://imgchest.com/p/bp4552bn245

>>95884640

>>95884634 (OP)
>antisocial so no companions
>romance wvent is free though so I can still have my harpy wife
Based.

>old shit nobody plays
Post Danmachi

I am the strongest. My build is invincible! I shall rule cyoag with an iron fist.

>>95884650

>>95884658

How important is lore and the setting to you when it comes to your interest in a CYOA? Is it just set dressing for waifus and immortalitymaxxing, or is it the main appeal?

>>95884667
Unironically if your setting is too weird or off-putting I wont play it.

>>95884667
>just set dressing for waifus and immortalitymaxxing
This.

>>95884667
Unironically if your setting is too weird or off-putting I will play it.

Everyday, I imagine a future where I can be with you....

>>95884667
>How important is lore and the setting to you when it comes to your interest in a CYOA?
very, that's the setting our OC donut steel would be living.
If it's too vague/bare bones then it might as well be an empty world, but with a well crafted world then the player can have goals and plans for their build that go beyond "git gud"
Good worldbuilding can also make waifus more interesting

>>95884697
>Choose waifu
>Choose immortality
>Repeat ad infinitum
Waifufags are unironically lobotomized npcs. Imagine if all cyoas had this exact same formula, literally Pill Pickers II.

>>95884652
>Post Danmachi

>>95884634 (OP)
Shitpost Wizard's Apprentice - another update.

This time I've started with the artifacts. I likely won't make new updates for next few days due to work, but feel free to send me ideas.

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YFIVNKrXLvCAjRBZGiEGu8Na63ycNhkQpA1mUUpR40U/edit?usp=sharing

>>95884719
I mean, waifus can't fill the hole in their souls, so of course they're repeating the same action.

>>95884667
If it's good and well presented, it helps, but the cyoa also needs to have good powers / choices or there's no point in all that dressing.

>>95884667
Pretty important, because it means I'll actually know the consequences of my choices.

Excessive amounts of lore to the point it makes playing less fun is bad lore, which is also important to avoid.

>>95883314
>Options are:
>Live forever in your metaphysical dads basement
>Eternal anarchy ending where you Will get murdered eventually.
>Destroy all technology forever
Where's the human progress ending? Why can't humanity be allowed to live on its own merits and conquer the stars? Why do none of these idiots understand the "One eternal society" thing never works and humanity's method of "try a bunch of different societies and have them compete on their own merits" has paid back dividends consistently?

>>95884652
There you go, now shut up.

>>95884667
Sometimes it can make me completely lose interest in a cyoa, but generally it's not the most important factor.

>>95884667
Paramount.
Waifus, immortality options, powers - I can imagine them alone if the need arise, but they're (generally) crucial for the adventure component. Immersion is harder without some stakes, some vistas, some history.

Post CC

>>95884733
Why have the catposters been actually reasonable recently?

>>95884728
Great. With the kukri, is "the damage you'd expect it to take from a strike with a kukri" accounting for the strength of the wielder?

>>95884730
>waifufags get no bitches so they cope with waifus.
>immortalitfags will die some day so they cope with immortality options.
>self-insertfags have no life so they cope by self-inserting into others lives.
>minionfags have no control over their lives so they cope by controlling others.
>powerfags are powerless irl so they cope by picking the most powerful options.
I get it now...

>>95884760
Code Geass cyoa when?

>>95884760
https://imgchest.com/p/qe4g5vmdb7j

Gunsoul https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95764349/#95766809
Machine Mind https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95775411/#95779951
Sharin-GUN https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95764349/#95767341
Tech Wizard https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95769466/#95769635
Ultimate Lifeform https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95764349/#95768447
Poison Hydra https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95772238/#95773853
Protagonist Essentials https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95769466/#95769535
Sword Shadow https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95769466/#95769887
Red https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95785108/#95785690
White Gun Powder https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95769466/#95770865
Void Sovereign https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95772238/#95772346
Bloodline Clones https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95769466/#95772460
World Body https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95772238/#95772529
HikiNEET https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95801109/#q95807909
Unlimited Steak Works https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95775411/#95775765
Fighting Buddhist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95772238/#95773765
Archon of Flesh https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95772238/#95775004
Limitless Treasures Venerable https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95775411/#95776317
Thousand Faces https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95790531/#95794061
Spooky Ghooooost https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95775411/#95778640
Green Man https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95775411/#95779741
Zero Samurai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95780943/#95783282
Breaker of Infinities https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95780943/#95784927
Shadow Crafter https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95790531/#95794365
Primordial Elf https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95811447/#95812129
Infernal Jesus https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95796604/#95798551
The Queen (Male) Administrator https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95801109/#95801310

>>95884805
Majin Buu https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95807913/#95809672
Heavenly Conqueror of The Mentalist Sutra https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95811447/#95812938
Shadow Mind https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95811447/#95812798
Cyborg https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95813591/#95814234
Alchemy Furnace https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95813591/#95815035
King Arthur https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95813591/#95815072
Spatial Trickster https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95817501/#95817541
Crackshot Cyborg https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95817501/#95818521
Sage Ri-Count https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95819690/#95821779
Parasite https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95822826/#95825138
Monster Swarm https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95872939/#q95873559
Heaven of Hell https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95827713/#95830003
Body Alchemy https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95827713/#95831517
Venom Dragonkin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95844496/#95846200
"All-Powerful" Demon https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95844496/#95845707
Perfect Predator https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95859583/#95859770
Tartarus, The All-Consuming Void City https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95859583/#95860343

This would probably be better as a pastebin.

>>95884790
You nailed it.

>>95884803
why?

>>95884790

>>95884784
Yes. It pierces most magical defences so unless you are trying to fight something severely out of your league magically like fey lord or genie sultan, you will cut cut your target as efficiently as you'd expect from a kukri.

>You are chosen as a champion of the current god ruling the world.
>Your job is to kill other nascent deities who don't kneel to your goddess.
>The war will be eternal as new gods will be born every once in a while until a new god ascends rules undisputed for a while and the cycle repeats.
>The current cycle is the longest as your goddess had the idea to create power separate from herself at her zenith for warriors to protect her once she grows weak and the plan worked.

Basically saint seya expy CYOA

>>95884826
> This would probably be better as a pastebin.
wouldn't we all?

>>95884805
Primordial Elf 4.0

>Cultivation Method’s
Shadow Spirit Sutra, Skin-Shedding Scripture, Thousand Venom Texts

>Blessing’s
Heaven Blessed, Peerless Prodigy, Seventh Sense, Iron Mind, Third Eye, Perfect Conduit

>Treasure’s
Spliced Tree, Pocket Dimension, Doll of Rebirth

>Grand Inheritance
Primordial Essence, Heavenly Conqueror Foundation, Lost Legacy

>Companions
Marie Su, Master Triffil

>Events
All

>Drawbacks
Deviated Form (Pointy Ears), Parasite, Valuable, Nemesis (The Swordswomen), Incursion

>Build Writeup:
https://rentry.org/82q6cr99

>>95884805
Based

>>95884738
>Where's the human progress ending? Why can't humanity be allowed to live on its own merits and conquer the stars?
That's the freedom route dumbass. When everybody is powerful, nobody is. Humanity will have no choice than to seek new avenues of power which will inevitably lead to a technological revolution as they attempt to one up each other. Don't let the ordercucks fear mongering deceive you, humans aren't suicidal or innately evil and they sure as hell don't need some false god to babysit them. Seize your own destiny and ascend to the stars!

>>95884834
what cyoa?

>>95884832
Great! I really like the Arts of Clay and am hoping to make a golem bodyguard, that would be the perfect weapon for it.

>>95884844
Yeah! Tell him, fodder!

>>95884848
Temporary golems are available from the get go, but permanent one is one of Great Works of this school.

Lore? Who do you think I am? a Brazilian monkey?

>>95884755
>Waifus, immortality options, powers - I can imagine them alone if the need arise,
Based freethinker.
>>95884784
>Why have the catposters been actually reasonable recently?
he's trying to win back anons goodwill after what he had previously done, don't be deceived by his temporary agreeableness, it won't last long.

>>95884871
>he's trying to win back anons goodwill after what he had previously done, don't be deceived by his temporary agreeableness, it won't last long.
Now where have I seen this tactic before...

>>95884834
>another prompt
ignored, come back when you have something to show.

>>95884869
Don't worry, I have just the thing for you.

>>95884790
No, anon I won't add femboys to my WIP.
Stop crying about it

>>95884634 (OP)
>Classes:
Physical: Exercise, Literature, Enchanting, Alchemy, Warfare
General Magic: all
Nature Magic: Monster Knowledge, Animal Speech, Warding
Dark Arts: Spirit Communication, Soul Drinking

In combat, I mainly use kinetic spells for offense - some favorites:
Kinetic Awl: Launch piercing force. Extremely condensed attack good for destroying high defense.
Chaotic Kinetic Blades: Launch a ball of kinetic energy that explodes into a sphere (or other shape) full of tiny kinetic blades moving chaotically. Shreds things that have low defense.
Kinetic Energy Imbue: Imbue something with kinetic energy, typically for launching it at extremely high speed as an attack. Can be used on the caster themself for extremely high speed unidirectional movement, but they must have sufficient defense to avoid killing themselves.
Kinetic Energy Suppression: Strip kinetic energy from targets to slow or stop them from moving. Deadly against fast moving targets if only certain parts of them are stripped of kinetic energy.

>Familiar:
None

>Accessories:
Staff, Enchanting Set, Alchemy Set, Personal Tutor

>Staff:
Material: Acacia
Head: Gemstone
Power Source: Mana Transfer

>Background:
Magical Potential

>Outfit:
Wizard Robes

>Dorm:
The Library

>Click:
The Scholars

>Rivals:
Gnash Rugrub, Amelia Augustus

The latter solves the former.

>Drawbacks:
Unnatural, Albino, Mutant

Solve with alchemy and shapeshifting.

>Atmosphere:
Jovial

>Magic Source:
Mana

>>95884857
>orderjobber calling others fodder
You literally live and die at the whims of an outsider entity that you put your trust in for no reason like a cuck. A single fart from freedomchads is enough to kill you.

>>95884911
>Nooooo, I don't want my cyoa to be a success
Why are gays like this?

>>95884916
>Companions:
Kaswin Orlen: Extremely powerful crafter. I encourage him to keep going with clockwork because it defeated a teacher.
Eli Longcroft: Real "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" type. I help his aunt come to terms with her "death" by persuading her of the fact that she is in actuality still alive and that the destruction of the body means nothing.
Jack Whyte: A young master! The nice kind! I encourage him to do his best to win and participate in the competition myself as well.
Tara Mossdale: Nice fun and I'll have my plant alchemy ingredients covered. I convince her to not become dependent on highly rare substances for survival.

>Adventures:
The Silhouette/The Homunculus: Track it with a magical marker, spirits, small animals, and small clockwork drones. Help heal Professor Zukofaky to obtain a friend.
A Strange Malfunction/The Runic Armor: Defeating the Runic Armor should be easy, considering our power. Why move Forgemaster Vamos to the afterlife? Eli can put his soul in a proper body, and we will obtain another friend.
The Competition/The Magicite Cup:
Grand Melee: My group is very very strong, so this is easy.
Mithril Race: Teleportation, go!
Puzzles and Investigations: I have spirits and animals to aid in my investigation, took two pure knowledge classes, and know sensory enhancing spells for both mundane and magical senses; this is easy.
Dragon-Turtle: This is where my monster knowledge and animal speech really shine. I'm one of the best at manipulating the dragon-turtle and can teleport my totem, so I'll surely win.
The East: Learning from another power system and exploring foreign lands are indeed very beneficial, but I won't transfer and switch my foundation... unless their power system is objectively better.

>Crisis:
Life Rolls On...

>>95884724

>>95884837
>He's becoming more and more Elf with every update
Im just waiting for "you" to drop skin shedding for Fated Shot

>>95884790
I am in this picture, and I don't like it.

>>95884916
>>95884927
Jobber build.

>>95884932
It's okay. This is the place for escapism, after all.

>>95884790
embrace the path of catfag and escape the wheel of cope

>>95884742
Sigh. You will come across a girlfriend sometime this week.

>>95884941
>wheel

>>95884911
femboys are peak. And they make my little noodle into a mountain of power.

>187 days since good oc dropped

>>95884911
Guess I won't play your shit then

>>95884911

>>95884964
Femboys are women. Wanting to fuck a feminine boy is hardly gay. You’re just stapling femininity over a hairless guy. That ain’t gay. True gays enjoy what real men offer. Masculinity and all.

>>95884982
I know, I am not gay. If something makes my pickle tickle then its a woman

>>95884964
>>95884972
Father's Paladin...

>>95884982
Its gay.

>>95884911
>Stop crying about it
I will redirect my efforts into finding you anon.

>>95884991
Nope. Real gay men fuck real masculine men. Capital-m Men. Not “men”.

>>95884728
Clown magic sounds cool. I'm interested in seeing you add that one.

Back when we discussed Italics CYOAs last thread we were on topic and didn't talk about homosexuality or trans stuff.

Amazing how on topic Italicsposting and CYOA discussion is in the general compared to everything else. Say what you will but Italics just works.

>>95884998
Its gay.

>>95885000
So I'm unironically more gay if I select badass brother-in-arms rather femboys love interests as companions?

>>95885007
Wrong reply bro?

>>95884931
Lol, Skin Shedding is my best synergy with Primordial Essence. Also Fated Shot has significant requirements to be able to incorporate it into this build (Dharma Weapon/Auxiliary Techniques, Weapon God Physique, etc). And frankly going Bow instead of Gun just to fit an archetype wouldn't be worth it. I would end up with a dedicated Gunjeet build. I am surprised none of the Gunjeet builds I have seen took infero tablets for Incendiary ammo though.

>>95884863
Oh, and one more thing. Is it possible to use that Great Work to turn yourself into a sentient golem?

Bros... I'm very excited for Hentai Heroine... that's gonna be some amazing OC!

>>95885013
Yes. Got affected by clown magic.

>>95885013
No, why do you think so?

>>95885019
Inferno*

>>95885001
italics sucks though and sucking is pretty gay

>>95885021
No...

>>95885021
So true! I'm expecting it to be like Magic: The Gathering in terms of popularity!

>>95885021
Why the fuck did you make this?

I hate you people but this thread has me fucking cackling.

>>95885030
Sucking a dick as a guy is gay.
Sucking boobs or a pussy is not.
I thought we were past elementary teachings (yes, this is elementary topic)

>>95885045
I love you too, Anon.

>>95885045
What is being funny to you?

>>95885039
Yes...
>>95885041
it'll do well, the idea is actually good this time
>>95885043
that post? because it's true, i'm excited about the OC

Fellas is it gay to fuck women? I mean you are literally fucking something that came out of another man's balls.

>>95885030
A monkey will NEVER be able to make a cyoa.

>>95885045
Yea we are unironically having the "are traps gay" discussion.

>>95885062
I believe in you, Tokhaar GOAT! You never missed before!

>>95885062

>>95885041
I see you have high hopes for Flop Heroine

>>95884845
Mine
>>95884887
What do you want to see?

>>95884667
Cyoa are 1/3 setting, 1/3 aesthetic & 1/3 choices that allow you to make a build you like. One aspect you like and the others two you are neutral about is the minimum for a playable cyoa.

>>95885073
It's an OC by Tokhaar GOAT. What could possibly go wrong?

>>95885062
>>95885021
>>95885071
Take your disgusting shit to /cyoar/ and fuck off tok.

>>95884911
hopefully lolis?

>>95885062
Has tok really spent the time to edit the images out of all of his nsfw cyoas to post them here?

>>95885076
>What do you want to see?
a real fully finished cyoa, no prompt and no wips.

>>95885065
Yes. Kissing a woman and kissing sperm is 75% close to being the same. Let's not forget its:
50% dad sperm
25% grandfather sperm in mother side.
the sperm solution can't be diluted by eggs. In fact the 50% of a woman being something called "egg" is dangeriously close to being the same as eating a guy's balls in therminology.

Couldn't be me, I wouldn't get caught kissing 75% sperm lol

>>95885086
Plenty of those, yes.

Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>95885071
WHAT´S MINE IS MINE AND MINE AND MINE. AND MINE AND MINE AND MINE! NOT YOURS!

>>95885096
Greedy.

>>95885119
>Greedy.
That's what every author except huspedo has been doing since the dawn of cyoag, prompfaggotry and wipshittery are a recent shitposting phenomenon.

>>95884980
I only have gays not lesbians those I correct my my pp.
I'm about to get rid of even the male companions to be replaced with more waifus.

Is cannibalism the gayest survival activity ever? You are literally biting into another man’s thigh.

>>95885144
Checked but I only eat girls.

>>95885069
name one author of over 10 cyoas that had not a single flop.
tok's record is excellent when compared to someone like aro or shitalics. remember magi case? lol
>>95885084
meds
>>95885088
he's always been doing it, so that everyone can enjoy his cyoas! even redditors!

>>95885155
That's why Lord Tokhaar Gol has my full trust. He's the one true heir of this general and will bring back the golden age thanks to his exquisite OCs.

>>95885155
Every tok cyoa is a flop.

>>95885155
>>95885166
>tok samfagging so brazenly
does this faggot ever learn?

Now this is ADVANCED samefagging

>>95885155
acting like magi case flopped when it still drives discussion is straight schizomaxxing

>>95885171
He is still here so no.

>>95884911
The hero /cyoag/ needs...

>>95885166
this, but unironically
>>95885169
incorrect, state your reasoning
>>95885171
i'm not tok, just someone who is excited for his next OC, Hentai Heroine. You could call me a tokling if you must.
>>95885174
>it still drives discussion
people aren't talking about magi case, they are talking about the magi case flop, those two are very different

>>95884805
Heart Severing Mantra is underated.

Guns and tech are for strong, burly men.
Magic is for weak, dainty women.

>>95885174
Only by retards still propping up Shitalics
>>95885171
It's not Tokhaar Gol, I'm just a very dedicated fan. Have you seen how many OCs the Tok produced? Basically needed his own drive to not eclipse everyone else in the AllSync. Princess, Dragonfall, SuperSluts, soon Hentai Heroine. Skilled with both sfw and nsfw content. How could YOUR favorite author compare?

>>95885191
Tok you aren't even trying to hide thr samefagging anymore.

>>95885198
Magitech guns FTW

>>95885100
based king

>>95885192
True, but its jack of all trades nature for combat and its nature as an Energy Gathering Method make it less appealing, as most builds either have very specific ability combinations, take more Body Refining methods for brute strength, or both. Plus, most people already take Iron Mind, which is probably enough for mental defense.

>>95885191
>>95885206
people still talk about the majority of companions

>>95885192
Is it? I think it's fairly popular.

>>95885215
Its tok samefagging obviously bro, stop replying to him.

>>95885215
Not really. Only the ones that are about ragebaiting.

where the thread belongs

>>95885226
I'm not going back.

Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>95885062
>>95885071
My power is my own, now and forever!

>>95885192
I dislike using emotions.

>>95885226
or here

>>95884837
I'd ditch third eye or seventh sense since you already have super senses with shadow spirit.

>>95885206
Of course. After all, I am the one and only Tokhaar Gol. How could they even mistake you for someone as benevolent and handsome as myself?

>>95885214
Yea the body thing is super true which has been the impitus for most of my build changes including dropping Heart Severing Mantra. CC is a direct improvement over Heavenly Kitchen in most regards but Energy Gathering methods have more going for them in Heavenly Kitchen (especially with Spirit Sage and/or Bloodseep Chalice)

t. Elf-sama

>>95885265
Eternal reminder.

I’m mentally unwell

>>95885207
>>95885219
obsessed. prove i'm tok?
>>95885215
not really

>>95885280
Softie... We can get you the help you need behind the shed.

>>95885256
I am counting on some synergy here but perhaps 3rd eye is overkill. I will stand on seventh sense though as having Spidey Sense plus togglable invulnerability is a killer combo.

>>95885280
Is this animal abuse?

>>95885192
It's a very good third method, if you have HCF and can't think of what to do with it. The incredible versatility without relying on external resources means it can work with basically any build. Plus it's the best counter to one of the two worst drawbacks.

>>95884805
Cultivating two body or energy techniques should make you explode from the conflict.

>>95885214
>True, but its jack of all trades nature for combat and its nature as an Energy Gathering Method make it less appealing,
It's energy that can be focused inward, making it imo just as good as any body refining method. And its "jack of all trades" offensive techniques as you put it are its best selling point. If you can think of something that you want to do that isn't covered by the other methods, HSM let's you do it.

>>95885288
Maybe swap third eye for weapon god (fists)?

>>95885297
NO

>>95885024
Clown magic is gud stuff!

>>95885297
It's too late for that kind of change, but it would have been interesting if you were limited to one of each.

>>95885066
Supposedly Faggato has made one.

>>95885341
To be fair anyone can make one. If I really wanted to be considered an author I could easily make a shitty picker cyoa in like an hour. Not something particularly good, but enough to get author status.

>>95885358
Very true.

>>95885317
I will probably go Protagonist Aura IF it is redundant like Primordial Essence and Ancient Bloodline were but I still think it could be a synergy that makes me an all-seeing menace. Part of my changes were based on the discussion on "Divine Sense" a few threads back which really sold me on boosting my senses.

>>95885297
At least there should be an explanation to how they *don't* conflict. We're just left with a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

>>95885385
Explicit anon strikes again.

>>95885019
>>95885378
You will pick up your bow and you will like it, elf.

>>95885403
What do my Elf eyes see lol?

>>95885294
Insects are beneath mammals.

>>95885419
Bugtranny... prove him wrong

>>95885403
I suppose if I had Auxiliary Techniques I could be like Celebrimbor....

>>95885155
Italics has never had a CYOA flop, though. What in the fuck is this disinformation?

>>95885484
>Italics has never had a CYOA flop
magi case

When did you realize that cyoag is gay

>>95885492
Magi Case had around 50 builds and generated not one, but continous threads with 1k post numbers.

It was one of the most successful CYOAs of 2024 even with a lack of spells and a positive reception to its setting.

Were you not here when it got dumped?

>>95885523
Any multiplayer. Entropist, Outer Reincarnation, fucking Danmachi, doesn't matter - people are noticeably more interest in flirting with anons/builds than fucking the waifus.

>>95885492
Death potion.

>>95885297
>>95885385
It depends on the technique and the setting. Anyway in the cyoa it kind of sounds more like you're able to fuse the techniques together, as with how the Shadow-Spirit Sutra mentions.
>If used with other methods, their enhancements will become shadowy equivalents.
It might instead be more interesting to have a system where there are different methods that have compatibilities, and we get a number of points and costs to determine how many methods we can fuse.

>>95885534
>pic related
I cannot imagine someone so weak mentally that he'll cave for any smile thrown his way.

>>95885385
Why wouldn't they? Separating different types of RE is the absolute basics of Inferno Tablets and Rifts Codex. As for body enhancing, why should, for example, replacing the function of biological organs with your metaphysical ones in Shadow Sutra not also move the alchemcial processes from Venom Texts to those organs?

>>95885534
>Magi Case had around 50 builds and generated not one, but continous threads with 1k post numbers.
lol, nice lie

>>95885559
A lot of Anons wanted to fuck Elspwth and kill Ager because she promised her marriage and legally cunny to them.

She is basically Ranni the Witch.

>>95885571
https://pastebin.com/HifrYKUF
It only had 49. The moral character of cyoag is failing.

>>95885589
It has more builds not included in that list.

>>95885589
>>95885606
*There are Lionheart builds but are excluded from that pastebin listing. Along with Malivent builds. Ulster had more builds too.

>>95884667
it's important to put choices into context, but an original cyoa setting can't be the main appeal because cyoa settings are always going to be a metaphorical micropenis

this is avoided by using an established setting from something external to the cyoa, but that has a different set of issues

>>95884667
It's best if you have enough going on that you can get a good sense of what is allowed and not allowed, and then let the palyer's imagination fill in the blanks.

>>95885534
>>95885571
>>95885589
NTA but AROUND 50, so yea 49 counts, no lies.

>>95885571
I definitely remember a 1k thread

>>95885523
I’m totally not flirting with anon tho

>>95884844
>Freedom Route
>Humanity first
And the fact that every MT chaos route leads to humanity getting ass-fucked by demons(and the occasional half-demon) doesn't tip you off that this isn't the case?

>>95885667
Having builds doesn't mean the CYOA didn't flop.

>>95885589
Some aren't included. The Auctors builds are missing too, even if I understand their exclusion from the list.

>>95884738
Preservation ending.

>>95885543
How the fuck is Danmachi gay? It is arguably the straightest setting of all time.

>>95885707
I am not weighing in on that but calling anon a lier for saying there were about 50 builds is factually incorrect.

>>95884790
>storyfags have no story irl so they cope by picking the story options

>>95885739
The biggest Danmachi fan here wants to molest Bell though?

>>95885744
Liar*

>>95885752
How do you know it’s not a woman?

>>95885707
Goalposting moment

>>95884790
>they're all helpless irl so they cope by making choices in fantasy land
lmao

>>95884667
Very important but who I am in the setting is also important. Several authors over the years have made great settings but then made us nobody's. On the other hand a pill picker that just gives you powers is boring too. It's a balance.

>>95885804
The balance is waifus.

>>95885809
A good CYOA is like The Heart of The Celestials, countless treasured ingredients combined.

>>95885819
>The Heart of The Celestials
Post it

>>95885752
That’s just Softie…

>>95884921
I trust God because he loves me and I love him. This is the basis of faith.

>>95885297
Some would, just, none of the available options are among them.

Make a build: https://cyoa.ltouroumov.ch/viewer/

>Constraints
Difficulty: Standard.
Starting Points: Base (Standard)
No Power or Upgrade costing more than 30 SP by itself.
No more than 30 SP gained through Drawbacks.

>>95885835
It's the cake the Gourmet makes in Heavenly Kitchen Realm

>>95885873
Good point, for all their flaws DIMA did some seriously top notch work.

>>95885874
>Constraints
Did you lose your way? /mcyoag/ is next door.

What supposedly drives Italics success here? Other authors like Tok or Aro get negative reception to a lot of content and just general. Yet, Italics seems to get positive feedback on almost all of his new content?

What did he do that other named authors didn't?

>>95885912
He can give a mean blowjob.

>>95885849
I want to molest amazonian/beastfolk/zenos women.

>>95885929
Great. Now I feel obligated to write in detail how Aro, Hus, Tok, Italics and more act as prostitutes.
I'll blame you specifically.

>>95885929
Italics is a choco funny.

>>95885912
As someone who has never cared for his work I believe he captures a certain vibe that weebs love. Anime isn't simply an art style but an all encompassing view point. Italics captures that view point. Also this discussion on Magi Case is off base. It was popular but people were hyping it up for literally years before it came out, and the final product didn't live up to the hype. It didn't bomb but it was like a Marvel movie only making 400 million in 2016.

>>95885943
You have to share it with the class.

JRPGanon, I think, created one of the longest enduring CYOAs of all time with JRPG Traitor. Decades from now, in 2080, somebody will still be able to play and enjoy it within its own context. Not every CYOA can say the same.

>>95885874

>>95885959
Never.
I'm not posting barely relevant erotica in the thread.

>>95885961
The only ones that can't are like, franchise cyoas.

Husanon here I clarified that the rage only kicks in if your sense of right and wrong is seriously offended like I dunno watching a friend being tortured.

Also the other one might change to
>You must accept any combat challenge made to your face.
>If you turn it down you will be followed by an aura of cowardise anyone that looks at you will inherently know you are a coward and a loser, not worthy of of trust this will likely undermine loyalty from your allies and make social interaction more difficult with strangers and likely encourage more challenges.
>This will last for a week for each challenge you turn down.
Does that soound cool?

>>95885978
What does the text say...

>>95885945
It did live up to its hype.

>>95885873
Idk man, Heart Mantra and Akashic Ascension look like a deviation speedrun combo to me.

>>95885978
How am I supposed to win if someone a lot stronger than me issue a challenge? Either I get kill, or I'm socially weakned for the whole week. Since it encourage more challenges, it can easily spiral down to being absolutely loathed by all allies until I'm cornered.

>>95885989
YEARS anon, you people wouldn't shut up about it for YEARS.

>>95885992
>How am I supposed to win if someone a lot stronger than me issue a challenge?
By getting good?
That's kind of Zoni's specialty

>>95885961
https://imgchest.com/p/md7ogmm2yp6

I still think of it regularly, unprompted.

>>95885991
>look like a deviation speedrun combo
They don't, we already had this convo.

>>95885991
Intelligence and Emotion aren't mutually exclusive. I know we are autismos here but come on.

>>95885961
Personally I prefer In The Wake of Dawn more than Traitor.

>>95885912
Weabo anime art, cuked player settings, faggot multiplayer pissbomber crap.

>>95885992
Run away and hide for a week, call in allies, or beat the second person to challenge you to death.

>>95885945
Good assessment. Mass hype failed delivery. Just read the archives when it came out and you'll see a LOT of complaining.

Close your eyes. What's the first CYOA that comes to mind? The one that truly was your own adventure?

>>95886017
>Intelligence and Emotion aren't mutually exclusive.
They are in the context of cultivation. Mantra and Ascension interfere with each others functions. Emotionally charged tulpas sounds like a quick way to fuck yourself up on both ends.

>>95885873
>>95885885
Metamorphosis and Machine Transcendence don't seem particularly compatible, even if they also don't seem like they would specifically conflict. Also Thousand Venoms and All-Consuming Inferno seem like they would conflict at low level but could easily become compatible at higher levels.

>>95886043
...Lamentations?
Huh. I thought it would be OR or something.

>>95886057
Machine Transcendence doesn't seem particularly compatible with a lot of options, but that is because most of us want to go 100% robot with it. It makes perfect sense for a cyborg.

>>95886046
>They are in the context of cultivation
I'd love to know more, because I've never seen this anywhere. Also, Rake specifically said that it's impossible for the tulpas to go rogue and that there are no anti-synergies between the methods.

>>95886043
isekai dark lord

>>95886043
JRPG Traitor, the first page specifically.

>>95886046
>They are in the context of cultivation.
Citation needed. CC is it's own setting with its own rules.

>>95885992
If someone a lot stronger than you is issuing you a challenge face to face you have bigger problems than this drawback.

>>95886043
Torrential Tide because I miss my friends.

>>95884634 (OP)
>Classes
>Physical
Riding
Literature
Survivalism
Enchanting
Alchemy
>General Magic
Telekinesis
Telepathy
Teleportation
Summoning
Energy
Healing I
Healing II
>Nature Magic
Monster Knowledge
Animal Speech
Growth I
Warding
Animal Control
Growth II
>Elemental Magic
Fire I
Air I
Water I
Earth I
Fire II
Air II
Water II
Earth II
>Extra Credits
Warfare
Overcharge
Master of the Forest (Why would I ever use this?)
Synthesis

>Familiars
Elemental (Water)
>Accessories
Staff
Enchanting Set
Alchemy Set
Personal Tutor
>Staff
>Material
Ebony
>Head
Gemstone (Deep Purple Amethyst)
>Power Source
Elemental Infusion

>Background
Study
>Outfit
Wizard Robes
>Dorms
The Cabins
>Cliques
None
>Rivals
Kyros Gildigrad
Princess Myria
Gnash Rugrub
>Drawbacks
Frailty
Antisocial
Squishy
>Curses
Infidel

>Atmosphere
Adventurous
>Magic Source
Mana
>Companions
None (But trying for Mika Swiftshunt as romance)
>Adventures
The Homunculus
A Screeching in the Rafters
The Hunger
The Labyrinth
Romance (Miksa Swiftshunt)
>Crisis
The Dark Lord Rises

I remade my build for this. Focusing primarily on being a general mage, and in particular using the elemental magic to become a god-tier summoner. I am one of the strongest mages if not the strongest mage, but strength isn't everything, and only fate would tell whether the romance I strive for would blossom...

>>95886043
Entropist, not even shitposting.

>>95886070
Yea the compatibility of it seems to relate to how much you want to put into it. The methods it would conflict with at full machine probably don't appeal to the people that want to go full machine in the first place. Though there probably are ways of going full machine and still using say Thousand Venoms, it would just take creating more specialized implants, and a lot of work. Also I wouldn't doubt that it would be possible to use Skin-Shedding to refine implants that are in your body.

>>95886043
Echoes... home...

>>95886073
>I'd love to know more, because I've never seen this anywhere.
Some cultivation stories have this trope of two ideological paths to reach godhood, the emotionless path where you severe your attachments and humanity, and the heart path where you embrace the full breath of human experience, suffering and pain included. The first path is almost always depicted as flawed and protags typically go with the heart path.
>Rake specifically said that it's impossible for the tulpas to go rogue and that there are no anti-synergies between the methods.
I know, I'm just saying that it makes narrative sense to have bad method synergies like >>95885297 said.
Also Rake is way too forgiving to the point of making the cyoa feel like baby mode xianxia for secondaries. He even removed all threat in Tribulations for no reason (at that point why even keep it), which I think is a massive oversight as it sidelines all rewarding challenge in favour of pure lazy wishfulfilment.

>>95885874
Should have restricted CP as well. Conversion go brrr.

>>95886148
The anon who wants to die to the tribulation lightning again. *Sigh*

Hey #12, was Roko and company a stealth reference to the Worm CYOA or am I on the wrong wavelength of schizophrenia? I can match all of the paths to one of them.

>>95886148
I'd argue that tribulations in a lot of xianxia are lazily included due to being expectations of the genre rather than being meaningful aspects of the setting and story. CC at least does something with them that isn't just a standard amount of threat that happens when going up a stage.

>>95886175
>t. The ngmi anon who shits himself at the slightest hint of adversity.
*Sigh*.

>>95886193
The way you want it to work would have a 100% mortality rate long term.

>>95886189
>CC at least does something with them that isn't just a standard amount of threat that happens when going up a stage.
I must've missed it this "something" because the only time they are mentioned is when you are explicitly told that heavenly tribulations are basically a magical breeze to your special snowflake self.

>>95886209
The first page mentions them, and while the third page mentions them not being much of a threat, it doesn't say they are without any.

>>95886206
>can't imagine himself defying the odds and coming out triumphant over heaven's will.
skill issue

>>95886209
The description in HCF is not the first time they are mentioned. In the tribulations and mutations section in page one, they are described as "environmental disasters, improbable outcomes, and hostile events" and "being individualized for each cultivator".

>>95886181
>#12
What author name himself after a number?

>>95886220
Infinite stages of Cultivation + deadly power scaling tribulations at every stage. Have fun anon.

>>95886219
You said that CC "does something with tribulations", but the only thing it does is making them utterly irrelevant. Tribulations are basically a trope reference rather an something that exists in the world of the cyoa due to how they treated.

>>95886229
The unfortunate thing is that the description is a bit vague, which is why anons reading of them varies from guaranteed death to free fated adventures.

>>95886238
I'd really love to see Rake expand on them if he ever updates it. The closest we get to knowing anything about them is Alice, and she's clearly had something worse happen. I have no idea what tribulations mean to a normal person in CC.

>>95886148
>>95886209
As if Xianxia MCs aren't lazy wish fulfilment Gary Stus that cheat though all adversity.

>>95886252
Not all of them. In fact there are less xianxia gary stus than in your average manga or mary sues in your average hollywood movie rn.
God, are standards have fucking fallen...

>>95886230
It wasn't an author. Basically during the OR peak there was someone - AnalysisAnon - who """"knew""""" how to identify a few people. #12 was one of them - European shitposter IIRC - but we never got confirmation on that, then every shitposter got labeled #12, then AnalysisAnon came out to say he invented everything...
It's a long story.

>>95886181
I'm the one that created Roko and a few others, but I wasn't thinking of Worm. What's the reasoning there?

>>95886229
>In the tribulations and mutations section in page one, they are described as "environmental disasters, improbable outcomes, and hostile events" and "being individualized for each cultivator".
Yeah but that's relevant to other non special snowflake cultivators. To us they basically don't matter at all.
>>95886236
>Infinite stages of Cultivation + deadly power scaling tribulations at every stage.
Secondary-kun your ignorance astounds me. First of all, there's no such thing as infinite cultivation stages, every xianxia that ever existed has an end stage. Second in the vast majority of cultivation novels Tribulations are only a thread in the low to mid stages. Once you enter the high stages and shit becomes conceptual, tribulations cease to matter entirely. So please stop flaunting your secondary status and let the adults talk.

>>95886252
Most xianxia MCs have a shitty lives and are constantly at death's door. Yeah they insane plot armour but I wouldn't call them Gary Stues.

>>95886267
Every Xianxia protag I have ever seen has some sort of "cheat" that defines them. Some of them are a bit more tempered in using them but it's a defining trait of the genre. No one gets by on grit alone (maybe for a few chapters at the beginning to earn the cheat).

>>95886281
Tribulations exist at the highest stages in many stories, and Cultivation Never Ends!

Cultivation Parody CYOA when? I want to be an arrogant young master who has to choose which of a dozen identical jade beauties I want to save from enraged temple elders as I explore the endless heavenly realms with an unshakeable dao heart.

>>95886148
Having random landmines hidden in the cyoa would be incredibly unfun.

>>95886319
>Cultivation Parody CYOA
Already been done. Heavenly Kitchen Realm is exactly just that.

>>95886302
Saying they have plot armor is like saying Superman has above average strength.

>>95886330
Do it again.

>>95885874
Just get Sleigh Beggy, Merlin Incarnated and Chad Grindset, cheaper, better magic and a compass toward improvement, maybr get Index too for inspiration.

>>95886322
Yea the only thing Tribulation anon is really arguing for is the removal of Tribulations entirely. Honestly they may be easy for us (which is true for many MCs), but odds our we will lose one of our companions to them.

>>95886330
>I don't like it so it must be a parody

>>95885945
>Anime isn't simply an art style but an all encompassing view point.
Italics shits all over otaku and weeb viewpoints, multiple times and even calls it gross and bad.

>>95886331
Plot Armor is such an overused term nowadays, it lost all meaning. Literally every piece fiction with a non-expendable protag contains plot armor. Movies, Anime, Comics, Novels all suffer from the exact same thing you're complaining about.

>>95886043
Divine Trials sure was… a lovely dream…

>>95886043
I've played too many, they all kind of merge together

>>95886043
Church of the Divine Rod

>>95886322
>Having random landmines hidden in the cyoa would be incredibly unfun.
It wouldn't be a problem if you just use your brain (For example mixing a logic based method with an emotion based one would be a retarded rookie mistake that anyone with brain would never make). I'm not saying Rake should make all methods have bad synergy, but a little narrative consistency would be nice.

>>95886369
Not the first time such a dynamic has occurred.

>>95886392
>a little narrative consistency would be nice.
It's not inconsistent, you just want it to be more punishing than it is.

>>95886086
That is a good point.
What if the challenge doesn't need to be combat focused?
As a way to motivate you to become the best at everything?

>>95886421
It's good where it was hus that was just telling that anon he's retarded.

>>95886392
> (For example mixing a logic based method with an emotion based one would be a retarded rookie mistake that anyone with brain would never make).
Except that doesn't make any sense. Akashic Ascension is not 'based on logic' any more than any other cultivation technique. It makes you smarter, but that does not mean or imply it is somehow powered by logic. And even if it was, it's not like logic and emotions are incompatible or opposed to each other.

>>95886392
You want me... to be more mean with them? I don't understand. I really enjoyed seeing people mixing them in ways I didn't think of, I don't see why that section needs to have "traps".

>>95886392
In some stories, the exact opposite is true. Failing to properly balance the spirit, failing to be a whole person, is a retarded rookie mistake that anyone who survives qi gathering would never make.

>>95885874
>worm
There's so many cyoas about this I cannot be arsed to care about them all
Tankista's is probably the best one anyways

>>95885874
8mhz;0wyi;dstd;eqhz;AltEar;d0mx;3vpf;4tg6;taka;kwrh27;icne;ar4o;qp7g;guod;hjzu;owx1;lyut;p6py

You, CYOA, Standard, Base (Standard), June 9th, 1996, Drop-In, Only A Sith Deals in Absolutes, Brief Protection x 1, Bad Day, Shardless, Thinker (Gut Instinct), Magician (Raildex), Fae, Lawbreaker, Pixie,

Lawbreaker + Magician means I can do literally anything with enough skill. Fae + Pixie means I have 100 years worth of skill. Only A Sith Deals in Absolutes means all my spells can't be resisted or bypassed at all. And brief protection means I have a day to set up my defenses. Should be easy enough to just curse Scion and the rest to death.

>>95886359
>>I don't like it so it must be a parody
Wtf are you talking about? I fucking love Heavenly Kitchen Realm! (I still consider it the best cultivation cyoa to date). But pretending its no parody is just cope. Taking a serious genre like cultivation and turning it into a fucking cooking anime is peak parody. Also you're retarded for thinking parody = bad, some of my favourite anime shows and movies are parodies.

>>95884634 (OP)
Classes:
Physical Classes:
>Exercise
>Combat
>Riding
>Literature
>Enchanting
>Alchemy
General Magic:
>Teleportation
Nature Magic:
>Monster Knowledge
>Animal Speech
>Illusion
>Warding
Dark Arts:
>Hexing
>Shadow Magic
>Spirit Communication
>Necromancy

Familiar:
>War Hound
>Necrobat

Accessories:
>Staff, 5g
>Enchanting Set, 5g
>Alchemy Set, 5g
>Second Familiar, 10g
>Drugs (alcohol), 5g

Staff:
>Holly
>Bronze Blade (Halberd)
>Mana Transfer

Background:
>One Good Deed

Dorm:
>The Library

Cliques:
>The Scholars

Rivals:
>Kyros Gildrigad
>Amelia Augustus

Drawbacks:
>Scatter Brained
>Nightmare Fatigue
>Honourable

Magic Source:
>Mana

Companions:
>Lord Julian Haversham, Opt 2
>Eli Longcroft, Opt 2
>Lorka Grishnak, Opt1
>Lukas Priad, Opt 1
>Alma, Opt 1

Will finish build later.

A jack of all trades type with a leaning towards the morbid.

>>95886498
Rake! Questions:
1. Can you use Devourer to counteract valuable by eating low value stuff?
2. Does Karmic Alignment care about intentions, actions or results?
3. If you use Shadow Spirit's and Tempestuous Rift's intangibility at the same time, would it be improved in any way or just redundant?

>>95886498
No I want more challenge in my cyoas than "le gary stu special snowflake anon gets all powers and bitches then solos all fiction with zero effort" thanks.

>>95886488
>>95886516
Every setting has its own rules and they often contradict each other, so this anon pretending to be the God of how Xianxia ought to work is irritating as hell.

>>95886498
He is just anti-fun. He explicitly says he is against wish fulfilment which is why we are all here. I like balanced thought provoking choices but he just wants to punish people for making the "wrong" choices.

>>95886498
Riddle me this Rake!
>Can you eat your own corpse to double your power?
>Can you consume memories?
>Can you devour connections (eating a man and becoming the real husband to his wife)?
>Can you suck your own dick to remove the valuable drawback(wtf)?
>Can you somehow gain power by stealing from yourself by cutting off and eating your own fingers?
>Can you eat your own Perfect Guardian?
>What would you get from eating your Dharma Weapon?
>Can recreate the process that made you to eat your own clone?
and I'm going to add one:
>What happens if you eat Alice?

>>95885874
I can totally break it more, but I don't care enough to.

>>95886498
>>95886547
Hi Rake I have a question too. Would Shadow Spirits Sutas improved senses synergize with Third Eye or is Third Eye so good that you wouldn't benefit from the improved senses of Shadow Spirit?

t.Elf-sama

>>95886498
Hi Rake, I

>>95886566
For some clarification on the questions, the eating your own corpse to double your power is using the resurrection doll, the perfect guardian one was to repeatedly devour and respawn it, and the Alice question was whether you get the full extent of her abilities from before she became mad.

>>95885991
>>95886046
>>95886148
>xianxia headcanon anon is back with more of his bullshit

>>95886498
Hello Rake, and thank you for making kino. I wish you good luck.

>>95886498
Could you use doll of ressurection on a companion?

>>95886498
>>95886622
Hear hear, and seconded!

>>95886498
CAN I DEVOUR THE SPLICED TREE AND GAIN DUPLICATION POWERS?

>>95886498
plz nerf:
>Heavenly Conqueror Foundation
>Lost Legacy
>Devourer
thnx

Rake, make me a good cyoa, stat!

>>95886359
>chingchong iron chef battle realm is a serious setting

>>95886663
Every Devourer but me really is retarded.

I think we scared rake away guys

>>95886844
Every Devourer really is retarded.

>>95886533
>I still consider it the best cultivation cyoa to date
How does it compare to the others?

>>95886912
There are others?

>>95886383
alright I didnt expect to see peak this good mentioned

>>95886844
IT'S A LIVING THING WITH UNIQUE POWERS, I AM GOING TO DEVOUR IT.

>>95886547
>1. Can you use Devourer to counteract valuable by eating low value stuff?
You're still gaining power from this. I don't see how that would lessen you in any way.

>2. Does Karmic Alignment care about intentions, actions or results?
Intentions and actions.

>3. If you use Shadow Spirit's and Tempestuous Rift's intangibility at the same time, would it be improved in any way or just redundant?
The Rifts version is an active combat ability you have to time, while Spirit's is something you can toggle, so you'd have more versatility with that. It would probably make it harder to disrupt with attacks that try to bypass that if you have multiple sources.

>>95886566
>Can you eat your own corpse to double your power?
How would you even get your own corpse? You'd be dead. If you're talking about the Rebirth doll, it doesn't duplicate your body.

>Can you consume memories?
Yes

>Can you devour connections (eating a man and becoming the real husband to his wife)?
That's something you'd find in an esoteric technique. The ability is concerned with physical power. I was maybe too vague with the power.

>What would you get from eating your Dharma Weapon?
It's not a living thing yet, and even if you did, it would only net you a portion of its strength.

>Can you somehow gain power by stealing from yourself by cutting off and eating your own fingers?
Why are you so obsessed with eating yourself? I'm going to say no because otherwise the ability would be silly, sorry. You wouldn't be a corpse anyways.

>Can you eat your own Perfect Guardian?
This feels like an extension of the previous question. S/He can't die unless you do, so there would be no corpse to eat.

>Can you suck your own dick to remove the valuable drawback(wtf)?
What? Why?

>Can recreate the process that made you to eat your own clone?
No. That required a very specific scenario that is impossible to replicate for anyone in the setting.

>95886577
Yes to first

>95886632
Yes

>95886583
What happened to him...

>>95887005
>>95886577
>>95886632
>>95886583
Sorry, I messed that up for no reason.

>>95886698
That might have to happen. I really don't like enjoy doing that though.

>>95886268
>What's the reasoning there?

Moqus: Rogue
>He doesn't do anything.

Neverland Empress: Villain
>An illegitimate ruler that wants other people to recognize her claim on Dis.

Blasphemy: Hero
>Just straight-forwardly a good person, if she weren't also a living WMD.

Arxius: Vigilante
>Anti-hero that antagonizes any Outsiders who don't befriend him.

Chad Horizon: Endbringer
>Grotesquely powerful.

Roko's Buildfag: Conspirator
>He's an amoral manipulator, but not an overt one in the slightest, and has their path-unique "Time Travel" power.

>>95886577
>>95887005
Thanks Rake. All-Seeing Elf is a go!

>>95887034
Actually, one more thing. You are officially, a jobber.

>>95887020
I understand if Lost Legacy and Heavenly Conquerer have to be changed (memes aside I feel Devourer is okay). Lost Legacy is 100% the Blessings and if we had another way to get them/started with more (currently drawbacks are GI fuel) I wouldn't mind a Lost Legacy nerf. Heavenly Conquerer is trickier but the 3rd method is definitely a component (I would at least consider Mentor Ring over HC in some builds if not for the 3rd method).

>>95887051
Lol nice try anon.

>>95887005
>Can you consume memories?
>Yes
I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO FAGS!

>>95887005
Can you eat the husks created from Skin Shedding Scripture?

>>95887067
>memes aside I feel Devourer is okay
Wtf are you smoking? he JUST said that Devourer can devour memories (aka. methods, techniques, secrets, etc...) AND dharma weapons. Devourer is NOT okay in the least.

>>95887005
> You're still gaining power from this. I don't see how that would lessen you in any way.
RIP. I was never counting on that so it's fine.
> Intentions and actions.
I have oversized empathy so I should be good (literally!)
> The Rifts version is an active combat ability you have to time, while Spirit's is something you can toggle, so you'd have more versatility with that. It would probably make it harder to disrupt with attacks that try to bypass that if you have multiple sources.
Good stuff.

>>95887100
>is NOT okay
You sound woke anon. Bugs Bunny is NOT OKAY.

>>95887020
>That might have to happen
please rake don't become one of those no fun shitters, i like your cyoas exactly because they make you have fun with how generous they are

I have no strong opinions on a Heavenly Conqueror Foundation or Lost Legacy nerf, but I want to mention that Heavenly Conqueror Foundation was taken by more than half of all builds, so changes to it will matter a lot.

>>95887135
I.E the proof it's unbalanced.

>>95887020
No worries, thanks

>>95887148
t. nofunanon

>>95885874
Invictus + Broken Limiter is all you need, really.

>Heavenly Conqueror Foundation or Lost Legacy nerf
>Copy everything ability not nerfed
lmao

o i have noticed that a lot of CYOA’s have “must be male to choose this” or “must be female to choose this”, i find this stupid for the most part and choose to ignore it, this is for several reasons, the first being as a non-binary person i would be forced to ether choose a gender for my self inserts/OC’s or just not pick any gendered choices. Their are some that i dont ignore if they make sense, like choices that say its based around self identification but 99% dont and that so stupid

This extends to companions, a lot of cyoa’s have ether only female companions or make all the Romance able companions female, i think thats stupid so i choose for companions genders to ether be neutral or changed if im romancing them (shout out to TROY-X for putting the clause in all their CYOA’s that all genders can be shifted at desire)(also shout out to pixel-GM and all who follow their model, im not talking about you, thank you for acknowledging non-binary people)

>>95887218
>as a non-binary person

>>95887218
>copypasting reddit posts

Overlord pdf update NEVER. That fucking LIAR is a fraud.

>>95887118
>>95887161
>nooooo don't fix the retardedly broken options that shit all over the cyoas balanced because I like them!
lmao you ain't slick devourerfag

>>95887005
You can easily tell from all the questions about devourer that it needs a nerf.

>>95887020
Any chance we might get an extra starting GI in the update? Also, were you considering adding additional cultivation methods?

>>95887246
>>95887250
same guy

>>95887269
>devourerfag cannot believe that many anons are calling him on his retardation.
shocking

>>95887005
>>95887020
Speaking of balance tweaks. I really like Richard "Twang" Cox, but he is currently a losing proposition without Protagonist Aura. Please consider buffing him somehow.

>>95887298
>Retard cannot read
>>95887161 was referring to Heavenly Conqueror Foundation

>>95885048
>vampire
>loving, playing
>your room, her room
>domineering, supportive
Kino.

>>95887357
>domineering

>>95887370
he's gay

Prove to me you are not fodder RIGHT NOW

>>95887395
*eats the fodder*

>>95887395
Unfortunately, only fodder would care to prove anything to you.

>>95887370
>>95887388
There's a lack of enlightenment in your hearts. I hope that one day you will be able to understand my tastes.

>>95886108
Why do you have a water elemental rather than one of other elements? How will you deal with your rivals? What will you do in your adventures? How do you have 26 classes when, by my calculations, you should only have 19?

>>95887463
>How do you have 26 classes when, by my calculations, you should only have 19?
Never mind on this, I see that you took antisocial (eww).

>>95887476
>antisocial
I would normally take such drawbacks, but antisocial in this cyoa is mind altering and the companions are very good.

>>95887463
Someone caught me cheating AGAIN.

>>95887418
It's not a lack of enlightenment, it's lack of degeneracy. Besides, there's a difference between understanding something and agreeing with it.

Enlightenment would, at best, lead to indifference towards your shitty taste.

>>95887463
>Why do you have a water elemental rather than one of other elements?
I like water the best out of the elements. Picrel is how it would look.
>How will you deal with your rivals?
Frankly, I'm a ridiculous tier elementalist specializing in summoning monsters and stuff. I don't really care about whatever gossip stuff they do, and if they challenge me to fights, they are guaranteed to lose.
>What will you do in your adventures?
Some of them are very vague, mostly leaving it to imagination.

Honestly, I could do a huge writeup for them, but nobody reads it anyways and (currently) i'm very tired. The cyoa is also just not compelling enough for me to do a pastebin or want to write a bunch for it. But I appreciate you reading the build and asking questions.

fairy cyoa?

>>95887005
Wouldn't shadow spirit's bodily need removal be kind of redundant since you get that for free anyway?

>>95887005
1.Can someone multiple tiers above you mind control your guardian to betray you temporarily or permanently?

2.Can someone permanently trap your guardian, without killing to prevent them from resurrecting next to you? If so could they hide your guardian in a way where you wont be able to find them?

>>95887710
Not Rake but it happens before stage 5 and the Organs are still vital so removing them is still a benefit. Also I suspect there are benefits to having your metaphysical organs take over the work of them such as perfect hormonal balance.

>>95885492
The Magi Case didn't flop. If we're being honest, it is by far my most successful CYOA even surpassing Pokemon Personified and Picking-A-Goddess (I'm sorry for never releasing that update) in terms of popularity and builds.

>>95886369
>Italics shits all over otaku and weeb viewpoints, multiple times and even calls it gross and bad.
I'm a weeb that watched anime on VHS tapes and liked the girls from Tenchi Muyo as a starting point, I can't really shit over anyone.

>>95886043
planeswalker rising and divine trials.

vgh this cultivation discussion has dragged on for far too long. whens someone going to post a good cyoa?

Cyoas like this one, but expanded upon?

>>95887828
Looks like someone can't see Mt. Tai.

>>95887828
Good? Dunno. But I'm on page four of Get in, Loser's mission update. At this rate of progress I will be done before the end of the month, I fully believe.

>>95887927
I am a popular structure and alien tech scientist who is friends with 5 lords and has a science HUD, a master key, and a cloning pod.

Once I figure out how to replicate those items, humanity will be able to infinitely revive, fearlessly and easily explore the structure, and uncover alien mysteries at a blistering pace.

>>95887707

>>95888020
>>95887992
Keep chugging along

>>95887828
Might be best to wait until after his next one for the update to drop, that will answer more than a few questions.

>>95885021
wake me up when you make good Dragonfall-tier OC again that everyone can enjoy.

>>95884834
I don't serve women. I don't believe in woke matriarchies.

>>95888055

>>95884667
Very important.
Just straight up power pickers and waifu pickers suck.

>That silly bitch Luvia done better get A Luminary Named Wifebeater powers back fore I righteously smack a bitch into submission.

>>95887738
>1.Can someone multiple tiers above you mind control your guardian to betray you temporarily or permanently?
No. It would go against their very being to do so. Even if they were min-controlled it would be impossible to force them to harm you or let harm come to you by inaction.

>2.Can someone permanently trap your guardian, without killing to prevent them from resurrecting next to you? If so could they hide your guardian in a way where you wont be able to find them?
It would be easier to just kill them. If they realized they were trapped or about to be trapped in any way, and that trap meant that they couldn't protect you, they would just kill themselves/turn off to reform if there wasn't a way out. You still have the connection to them, and it would be very difficult to somehow mask that if they were somehow separated from you without specific techniques, since that's impossible to sever.

>>95887828
Sorry...

>>95888055
What if you get a modifiers that would bring you above extreme in a stat ? The modifier's text still apply but the stats is named the same ? Like a Virgo with Beauty would be the most beautiful person of any race even if the stat is still at extreme ?

>>95888112
Extreme++, of course ;).

Anyway, there is nothing to quantify the stats, so just assume whatever.

>>95888131

>SUPREME TELEKINETIC
Lina Weiss
Female
Swiss
Naive

>SUPREME BIOKINETIC
Asia Ferrari
Female
Italian
Generational (gen-z)

>SUPREME BODY
Avi Shalev
Male
Israeli
On a Leash (Israel)
Zealot (Judaism)

>SUPREME SORCERER
Myself

>SUPREME INVENTOR
Male
Takeshi Fujimoto
Japanese
Ambitions
Superior

>SUPREME TELEPATH
Emma Lindgren
Female
Swedish
Leader (Telekinetic, Biokinetic)
Uncompromising

>Crises
New-Gen
First Contact

Pretty sure none of them will preemptively kill me, and with prep-time I will be the strongest of them all. Most of the other supers of the world will join the League, which seems to have moral leadership, so that's good too.

>>95888234
>SUPREME BODY
>Israeli
>On a Leash (Israel)
>Zealot (Judaism)
What the fuck? Are you aiming to hide while he kills everyone else but the jews?

>>95888255
Zealot says he will be a moderate believer of his faith, and the torah says not to murder. It's one of the 10 commandments. And, I think I could hold his people hostage, even if he wants that.

>>95888131
>You can hijack the senses of trillions of humans, animals, and even insects, seeing and experiencing the world through their eyes or puppet them entirely.
>At will, you can also transfer your consciousness to another mind within your network effortlessly,
How many anons are ngmi from killing the entire human race and forgetting the cockroaches?

>>95888083
any comment on the theory that Alice is the mod-level cultivator who experimented with earth, and her current state is the result of failing a tribulation or karmic blacklash or something?

>>95888264
On a Leash to Israel will 100% have him kill for the jews. You want a hyper pacifist or or selfless religion like some types of buddhism for Zealot, same for On a Leash's nation.

>>95888234
This post is how I found out that the Holden Bloodfeast cartoon has been autofiltered.

>>95887005
Hey Rake I was wondering, how far do the initial Methods & Techniques take you? Do you need to start looking for higher techniques once you get around RE 10+? Would there be any drawback for taking your time and learning more relatively low level Methods once you've more-or-less initial batch (assuming they cap out around RE 10)?

>What happened to him...
Well he probably mentioned Candle Jack some where else and while he was typing that po

>>95888286
He may kill for jews, but that doesn't mean he will kill all non-jews.

>>95887828
>kino discussion stay around for once
>nooo stop it! post danmachi!

>>95888407
Post Tok kino

>>95888279
>please validate my headcanon

For more kino, what's a Method you wish was in CC? I think the last time that was mentioned the suggestions were:
>plant/wood qi-based healing/druidic method
>self-impalement method
>light energy gathering method
>illusion sword method
>sun and moon method

>>95888452
>Tok
>kino
choose one

>>95885208
femboys and tomboys

>>95888461
I remember there was a sociopatic method focused on the havenly dao that was mentioned bit but was exremely vague.
Also there were a couple of guys who really wanted a blood/slaugthering method.

>>95888548
"Heaven and Earth are not humane. They regard all things as straw dogs. The sage is not humane. He regards all people as straw dogs."

>>95888264
Have you looked at what Israel's doing right now? Are you retarded? Just pick Jainism or Buddism.

>>95888578
What does that even mean

>>95888589
>Shoggoth: Lewd

>Powers:
Prehensile Tail
Hidden
Roomba

Maybe I'll use this in my next one.

>>95888644
That to reach enlightenment someone should sever attachments to the world and strive to make impersonal judgements, to be one with our impersonal world.

>>95888657
That sounds retarded desu. All there is is the world.

>>95888644
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_dog#Use_as_a_metaphor

You just lost The Game

>>95888267
You mean how they are torturing the human mind that has to spend the rest of his life trapped in cockroaches eating corpses?

anyway, given how the methods of killing humanity, the majority of them, make the planet unhabitable, any life form will eventually die and the planet will become a second mars at best, with supreme body's method simply destroying the planet itself.
The only ones that would have great finesse would be the biokientic with a virus targetted at humans or the sorcerer with a human specific extintion ritual that would be too hard and long for its use.
And the biokientic could kill all life and then repopulate once the telepath is dead.

>>95888234
>with prep-time I will be the strongest of them all.
Nope. The strongest is the Body. If you want to add prep time with New Gen telepath could potentially be the strongest with the new sub superpowers if the rest don't stop him.
If you want to add prep time without the telepath making the sub superpowers his slaves by the rest stopping him with surveillance, then the strongest is biokientic, who could make an army of super kaijus with superpowers, if he gets his hands in 20 subsuperpowers he could have 20 super kaijus with subsuperpowers when the normal 20 subsuperpowered people were enough to be a threat by themselves with a plan, let alone the biokinetic himself and the rest of minions with powers.

If you want to ignore that too, then the strongest is and always will be the Body. As the only scenario the Sorcerer can be the strongest is if the rest of superpowers are retards that won't spy the rest and don't realize you are making a ritual for weeks without breaks with supermaterials to kill them one by one.
But as we have to guess for the other 2 examples that the superpowers are spying each other, that won't happen.

Sorcerer, combat wise, is in the bottom 3, with Inventor and Telepath.

>>95888909
Nah, I'd win.

>>95888965
See >>95888909

>>95888977
See >>95888965

>>95888965
>No arguments
a ngmi

>>95888996
Only jobbers explain themselves.

>>95889016
Only jobbers know they are in the wrong and not try to defend themselves.

>>95889104

>>95889108

>>95889104
Spellch

>>95889160
Who keeps killing our anons mid sentence?

>>95889166
Me, wanna

>>95889166
The same asshole that brew a potion that

>>95889166
candleja

>making choices in cyoas instead of making choices in real life
>escapism is just another cell
>power, waifus, immortality, lore, all distractions
>withdrawal if you don't indulge in regular intervals
>you wanted out but now you've sprung another lock again

>>95889270
There is no escape.

>>95889270
Go back to drooling over monstergirls. You're not ready for the truth yer.

>>95885874
There is that one combo that lets you to obtain whatever power you need at the moment, boosts SP limit of what you can obtain with that and let you learn powers as skills (with complete understanding of your own powers automatically).
30 SP limit per power is too huge, this entire combo is less than that. If you actually want to nerf shit, you need something like 5 SP per power.

>>95889306
>There is no escape.

>>95889369
>>95889369
>>95889369

>>95889104
>Final Spell - Arean Annihilation
The wrath of a god at the palm of one's hand... perfect for smiting a Lich to smithereens.

>Departure - Combat, Health, Time.
Who ever said wizards cannot be warriors? With overflowing vitality, unerring sense of timing and a beastial killing instinct. I can swing a sword and sling a spell with the best of them.

>Spellbook: Spell Deflection, Gust Parry, Whistle.
Magical and physical defend, plus
Thanks to Mysia's brief tutoring I learned to channel a portion of Whistle to sheath my blade in a sharp wind working in tandem with Gust Parry to attack and defend.

>Companions - Melia, Mysia.
One is a friend, an employer and (sometimes) a lover. The other is a partner in hatred for all things undead.

>Fated Doom - Makait, Purifying Wyrm.
If he wants to stand in the way of my vengeance then he too shall perish.

>Mysteries - Lich of the Red Forest, Yphonis Gates.
To get my revenge I must become stronger, and the dungeons are the best place to hone my might and magic.

>Backstory:
Once a princeling-to-be of a Vasilikan lesser state, Zeraph was bright-eyed kind-hearted child of royal birth.
His idealistic world came crumbling down however, during what is now known as the Crimson Night. The dreaded lich Knochen descended upon the capital alongsides his rotting horde and proceeded to slaughtered Zeraph's entire family and most of the city's people. The only reason he survived is thanks to his father, the king, using a precious one-use teleportation artifact to send him far away from the massacre. With his birthplace burned to cinders and his once bright future scattered to the wind, Zeraph swore bloody vengeance upon the Blood Litch and all of his unliving kind.
His vengeful obsession drove him to seek power whatever it may be, he trained his body and skill to the limit and when deciding that wasn't enough to best the Almighty Lich, he looked for more arcane might. Which ultimately brought him to Master Myrmidon's footsteps.

>>95886306
>but it's a defining trait of the genre
What stories have you been reading? Half the ones I've read had completely normal protags that had to get everything from autism levels of work(and often absurd luck).

>>95889270
Stop noticing things.