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>>Previous thread:
>>95891291

>Thread Demand
Post infantry

>>95895212 (OP)
When is soon?????

>>95895220
which models come in that box?

*blocks your path*

When will GW bring a return to this phase?

you guys like Chaos?

>>95895225
leaked sprue was part of the indomitus box

>>95895248
Every non-chaos player here hates chaos. Every chaos player here also hates chaos.

>>95895248
Yeah, but I don’t like power suits.

>>95895225
The indomitus heroes, chaplain, blade guard etc.
https://youtu.be/ptJXd9Y5sPo?si=yVemM45dy7TItFEk

>>95893110
He doesnt have a pixiv
You can easily access all his stuff in stuff like exhentai
Been following him since his Amphibia stuff years ago

>>95895248
ye

>>95895268
Nobody cares you nonce

What kind of jokes does he tell?

>>95895275
Gay ones

>>95895272
You don't belong here normie

>>95895283
You have no models so I could say the same

>>95895275
Ill show you some real music kid

I don't think my FLGS ordered the Company Command Squad and Chaplain/Librarian sets for me back in December and the 180 day thing is coming due. Also mfers are trying to scalp just the Company Command Squad on Ebay for $250 so I can't imagine them suckers going down. It's over

>>95895283
If being a normie means you don't want to sleep with children then hell yeah brother I'm normal af

>>95895287
>Just post your models so I can schizo out at you screaming pedo over and over every time you post normally
Nice try tourist

>>95895297
Get the fuck off of our site normalfaggot

>>95895248
I like the lore but not the models

>>95895294
Report them to gw and get their sellers license pulled. Did that to some guy in my hometown who was scalping and got to watch his whole life crumble to pieces afterwards and eventually have his body found in the local river

Why don't space marines put random chevrons on their weapons anymore?

>>95895308
No not those mfers, ebay mfers unrelated to my flgs. I love my FLGS but their GW rep sucks ass and fucks orders up constantly.

>>95895248
I fucking love Chaos

>>95895300
It's almost as though being a pedophile isn't socially acceptable amongst the majority of people
>>95895300
>>95895304
>exactly one minute apart
You sure are desperate for people to believe you're amongst your peers here

Guardin' this thread.

>>95895300
>he has no models
Begone tourist

What exactly is his endgame with working with the chaos legions?

>>95895275
A rich merchant lived on the outskirts of Baghdad. One day, one of his servants was in town buying supplies at the market, and he saw Death beckon to him. Terrified, he fled back to his master's house and begged for the use of his horse. "Surely if I flee to Samarra, Death will not find me!" So the merchant gave him his horse and bade him godspeed. He then went to the market, searching for answers. He soon found Death and asked him why he had beckoned at his servant. Death replied, "I am sorry. I did not mean to frighten him so. I was not beckoning at him, I was merely surprised to see him here this morning. You see, I have an appointment with him this afternoon in Samarra."

>>95895327
Can you guard it from the pedophiles, they're pretending they aren't mentally ill again

>>95895324
>>95895333
This board has a loli daemonette as its mascot
Away with you pearl clutching tourists

>>95895347
I thought the mascot for warhammer was kitten

>>95895225
at standard board game price this is going to be by far the best deal GW offers, and an absolute no-brainer for starting a Space Marine army

We can talk about army rules and if they are good or not...
But are they fluffy and in line with your army?

Does anyone know if world eater arms fit custodes

Finished these bad boys. The robots look much better painted any other color than ivory white

>>95895369
Probably

Thoughts on this black recipe? I've adjusted the color a bit to reflect what it actually looks like

Reminder that I can spend close to a thousand dollars tracking and buying every Juan Diaz model or order one of each for a less than a hundred and his life won't be affected in any way at all.

>>95895361
would be nice if shadow in the warp had an extra effect on psykers

>>95895389
It would be cool if battleshock caused psykers to gain deadly demise

>>95895345
I'll give them the flammenwerfers

>>95895403
I said it last night but will also say it now:
An ideal scenario would be that battleshock/morale/whatever the fuck you want to call it affected each army differently, because every faction has their own faults that they would have to deal with through leadership or whatnot. It's never going to happen, but it is making me want to make a homebrew morale system that gives each army their own "fail" effect on leadership rolls.
Battleshock is a step forward, representing things like a breakdown in communication from command to field troops (No stratagems) instead of just the entire squad collectively shitting their pants, but I personally feel there needs to be more.

>>95895415
I'm thinking of eventually getting around to making a Steel Legion force, what weapons and army composition fits their fluff the most?

>>95895430
It's a versatile enough regiment that you can include almost anything in it - the 4th edition codex gave them abhuman access and said they preferred heavy bolters and grenade launchers, but their art and fiction has them with all kinds of stuff.

The biggest thing is they're a mechanized regiment, and my rule has always been that everything has to be mounted in some fashion to count as truly Steel Legion. Flavorwise 4-6 squads in transports backed up by other vehicles or fast units like sentinels is their jam.

Metawise the plasmagun has always been the best option for them. The regiment rules have pretty much always given some kind of buff to dismounted infantry that benefits the plasma more than anything else they could hop out with.

>>95895448
Cheers Steel Legion bro.

Flamers!

I didn’t build my new Knight like I said I would but heres a few bears.

How's everyone's vehicle coming along for the end of the month?

Bob_Ross.jpeg

>>95895509
Fixed

>>95895513
Ill have my black panther Knight done by next week

>>95895519
They’re well painted, but they still look like shit.

>>95895520
Okay but you're banned so who cares

>>95895525
Says who?

I'm homebrewing a custom sector to play around with, with the primary two forces being a Necron Dynasty and a Blood Angels successor chapter. I think I want the primary antagonist for the BAs to be a Night Lords successor my friend has been making, but not sure what to do for the Necrons for a thematic antagonist. Who do Necrons pair well against?

>>95895540
eldar or orks or mechanicus are their classic combos

>>95895545
Orks sound like the best bet, and I also have a Mechanicus fetish, so I'll just roll with both. Thanks!

>>95895519
Is that just the one bronze colour?

>>95895576
Nah thats gold n wash

>>95895425
any unit that is battleshocked cannot be targeted with stratagems, on top of this:
Space Marines/CSM
>Loss of control: unit must charge the closest unit if a target is present, non-character models become OC0
Guard
>panicked retreat: non-vehicle units lose d6 models, units in engage become OC0
Sisters:
>fate broken: can't generate or use faith dice, lose 1OC
Custodes
>Unbroken: Is not affected by battleshock
Mechanicus
>machine spirits rampant: models lose 1OC, every unit rolls as many dice as there are allied units within 12 inches, for each 6, receive a mortal wound.
Grey Knights
>See: unstable psyker
Knights
>fallen hero/brutal upstart: closest elegible allied knight target takes d6 mortal wounds, become OC0
Chaos Daemons
>ebb: models lose 1 T, 1 WS, 1 BS and 1 OC
Death Guard
>Rotten: cannot move or charge.
Emperor's Children
>The Fruits of Excess: become OC0, take d6 mortals
Thousand Sons
>Dust: Rubric models gain OC0. Additionally, they cannot move, shoot, charge, and have WS6+ when not within 12 inches of a sorcerer model
>also see unstable psyker
World Eaters
>Blood visions: Unit must move towards and charge the closest unit if a target is present, become OC0, cannot shoot.
Aeldari/Drukhari
>Gaze of slaanesh: take 2d6 mortals
Genestealer cults:
>broodmind lost: units lose 1OC. Additionally lose 1WS and 1BS unless within 6 inches of a purestrain or psyker model
Leagues of Votann
>blinded by vengeance: models lose 1 OC, must charge and shoot highest grudge unit if elegible at -1 to hit
Necrons
>connection lost: become OC0, next time this unit would recover wounds or models, don't
Orks
>Frenzied: become OC0, must charge closest elegible target, but take d6 mortals
Tau
>Lost communications: don't lose OC, but cannot guide, be guided and can only shoot closest target, infantry units take d6 mortals
Tyranids
>Disrupted Synapse: unit becomes OC0, must shoot and charge closest enemy unit if elegible at -1 to hit

>>95895592
unstable psyker: model becomes deadly demise d6

>>95895592
I like how most of these are minor and then the Eldar ones are basically just "wipe the unit"

>>95895592
Pretty neat idea. not sure how balanced all of these are but yeah. Death guard having 1/3rd of a TSon's effect seems blatantly unfair.

>>95895581
Which gold did you use

>>95895592
Anon who posted the idea in the first place: Not bad, but some of these do not fit well. That said, it's a good base for me to start tinkering around with shit.
>Unstable psyker
Now I am imagining a squad of psykers from GK/Tsons chaining off each other doing deadly demises.

>>95895608
I may have been slightly biased
Slaanesh's a bitch anyways.
>>95895612
Death Guard can still fight, shoot and have OC though. It basically does nothing for units you already parked on a point. Still, the idea is that models would be costed appropriately.

>>95895212 (OP)
>TQ

POST WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON

>>95895612
oh you probably meant the other way around.
Well it doesn't do anything if rubrics have any sorcerers at all close, though it should probably be something like 24 inches.

>>95895626
The problem he was pointing out is that the TS penalty is everything the DG penalty does, and 4 other extra penalties on top of it.

>>95895347
Our mascot is so important to us that no-one has made art of her for decades.
You're just scrambling to hold onto the last remnants of the board that reinforce your mental illness

Do you think we'll have all the codexes out by the end of the year?

>>95895382
You need to show us on an all white background or people won't be able to tell what is a natural highlight and what is your own

>>95895652
>tfw Dark Eldar get the end of edition codex
The silver lining is that 11th might be a continuation of 10th (Not that in of itself is a good thing) so it isn't instantly invalidated like Guard or World Eaters in 9th to 10th.

>>95895519
>doesn't paint plasma coil
-10vp

>>95895212 (OP)
i can make a better tool than newrecruit.
what's on your wishlist?

>>95895671
>what's on your wishlist?
Pic related

>>95895662
11th is going to be indexes by another name anyway since all the Codexes are going to get "updates" to all their Detachments for 11th edition compatibility anyways. You're still not going to be able to play with the rules written in your codex for more than six months before they change it.

>>95895671
Stratagem list for the army roster. Sick of looking up wahapedia every game.

>>95895671
Mobile app, it shows me local gilfs in my area, gives tips on avoiding taxes, maybe show me where local gamers are.

>>95895671
Images of the units in the list.

>>95895652
>Still no Dark Eldar on the roadmap
They're definitely putting out Dark Mechanicum before Dark Eldar

>>95895645
>Tourist scrambling for a gotcha over an hour later
Pathetic, just fuck off already lmao

>>95895652
>baby carrier as the image for grey knights
Well, the hope that they'd replace it with a slightly less terrible model was fun while it lasted.

>>95895671
The moment I select a unit for my roster, it brings up an option to add or remove models from the unit. I hate having to add a unit and then add models individually

>>95895621
The Kings gold the Retrib Armor

So uh……how does xenos space travel work, generally? Okay, Eldar have the Webway which is fine because it’s linked to their special pre-history and it’s available to anyone who can find a gate, etc. Necrons have whatever ancient technological wonder from the War in Heaven, fine. And so…how does ANYONE else maintain a large-scale empire / star nation without going through the Warp? How did humanity in the Dark Age of Technology do this? How can the Tau reach anything but the tiniest fraction of neighboring stars without it? How do the Hurd and all the other space-faring races do this? And there were some very strong ones which posed a serious challenge to the Great Crusade. Or is Warp travel NOT that critical, it was just the way the Empire got used to having long-range strategic mobility thanks to the Astronomicon? Ie, being able to travel via the Warp is an advantage but not a requirement?

My one and only detail brush has fallen after 6 years of service. Attempts to repair have been unsuccessful. I was considering getting a nice sable brush at some point, so it's time.

>>95895693
I'm not whoever you were arguing with whenever you were arguing with them I just scrolled through the thread and saw people trying to pretend it was totally normal to want to fuck little girls and thought it was funni

>>95895706
>available to anyone who can find a gate
They also need to be able to navigate the webway, which is its own kind of labyrinth.
>How did humanity in the Dark Age of Technology do this?
Navigators and the warp, they still had em. If you mean the old night, they simply didn't travel, and that's the point
>How can the Tau reach anything but the tiniest fraction of neighboring stars without it?
They don't, they've found a couple of portals that let them jump to a couple places but they mostly have small empires
>How do the Hurd and all the other space-faring races do this?
we just don't know yet, many do like the orks and simply fight demons all the way through the warp.
The only real problem faction is tyranids

>>95895713
>I'm totally not the same guy I'm just also a normalfaggot invader
Okay, still fuck off, you're not wanted

>>95895706
>dark age humans
Had essentially mini astronomican lighthouses all over and the warp was far more stable thus easier to deal with.
>How can the Tau reach anything but the tiniest fraction of neighboring stars without it?
They can't. Notice their empire is a tiny hexagon.
Anything else is just using warp travel of some form in a similar method to the Imperium(and might be piggy backing off of the astronomican).

>>95895645
>You're just scrambling to hold onto the last remnants of the board that reinforce your mental illness
I never thought of it like that, that is exactly what they're doing isn't it? Even if you ignore the loli daemonette, the narrative becomes about how this site has always been for pedophiles and that makes it alright now even though we know better.

>>95895724
I think if you asked a random group of 4channers who they would rather spend their time around between an actual pedophile, and a "normie" that they would pick the normie 99 times out of 100

>>95895712

>>95895737
I just assume people who make pro ped defense statements here are trolling for (yous)

>>95895726
What goes on here?

>>95895752
What happens in Bakka, stays in Bakka

>>95895737
Nope, only election tourist subhumans like (you) would

>>95895212 (OP)
>TQ

Boyz boyz boyz

>>95895763
normies are superior to you, scum. know your place. moot went on to have a hot japanese wife and retired in his 30s with two beautiful wasian kids. you can't even paint your action figures.

2008-2012 4chan died long before election tourism

>>95895780
Yes yes keep crying subhuman

>Mate buys a box of gaunts each painted a different scheme because he doesn't know what he wants
>Asks me if it's okay if his scheme in non-canon
>I ask what he means
>He thought all nids were white and purple because that's their colour in Space Marine 2
>6 months pass and he sends me this picutre out of the blue
>Not pictured is two boxes of genestealers and broodlords
Don't think he's ever played a game but likes the modelling and painting part of the hobby.
Also we are Australian so all this was like 20% more as well

>>95895763
>everyone who doesn't like little girls came to the site at the same time
I'd suggest you try and have this same conversation with a family member and let me know how the treat you afterwards

>>95895783
>slopper dogwhistle
>literal pedophile
Pottery

>>95895790
Keep crying tourist

>>95895783
>>95895795
stop replying to low effort shitposts

>>95895788
As long as he has fun does it really matter, maybe hold a hobby might once a month to help him chew through it. If you're too autistic to organize that then pick a sport or live event he likes and suggest a painting night during the event so you can hobby and watch together

>>95895608
>that thousand sons one
>complains about 2d6 mortals that doesn't disrupt objective play
Eldar players everyone

>>95895212 (OP)
40k horror vidya centering around a hive city or the bowels of a voidship being taken over by genestealers when? Could straight up be a Dead Space or Resident Evil type game of the perspective of some PDF guy or ganger experiencing the chaos of the day of ascension or the initial phase of the genestealer cementing it's foothold on an area. We have RTS games, action shooters, turn-based rpgs, but no horror games in the universe known for being grimdark and horrifying.

>>95895796
>>95895795
>calling nonces on their freakshit is bait now
Lmfao yall all do the same bit every time. By all means use your big girl words. Why don't you tell the class why it's bad to shit on nonces? Why should we all accept them as a normal member of the general. And do so without just claiming they've always been here, because clearly there wouldn't be rules about it if they were welcome site wide. I want you to tell me why it's morally okay to look at pictures of 8 year old pussy and dead/mutilated 8 year old pussy.

>>95895833
Gonna cry again? Shit and piss when the jannies ban you for your umpteenth tantrum?

>>95895833
No need to entertain the limp seething of the fragile tourist

>>95895836
Who do you think you’re talking to?

>>95895828
In 40k, a lasgun can kill a genestealer in 2 shots if you're extra lucky, in Kill Team, it took 3 shots minimum and it was much unlikelier, which one do you think is more true to the lore?

>>95895841
The same impotent normie who has a meltdown every single time people post mossa art
You aren't even clever enough to swap up your phrases or typing style, don't think people aren't aware of your game.

>>95895828
Spacehulk FPS was kind've action-horror like Dead Space. A for-real Dead Space clone in 40k would be perfect though, a lot of directions to take it in. A regular human facing any non-imperial faction could work, setting it in Commoragh would be cool too.

>>95895828
>Dead Space but its one kind of enemy over and over and not have a vast number of radically different body horror monsters
>some have Cthulhu heads and are much larger
It would have to play very differently from Dead Space. Instead of shooting hordes of enemies every other room like Dead Space it would need to be like Alien Isolation but with 0 chance of survival if they can land a hit on you. Getting stalked and needing to hide and hoping if you blow on away the sound won't bring more than you have ammo for

>>95895836
>Shit and piss when the jannies ban you for your umpteenth tantrum?
Well they haven't done that before to me so It'd certainly be a first lmao.
>>95895838
Yall so really to call everyone a tourist but are you even allowed 100feet within an lgs? They're technically toy stores after all

>>95895845
Pay attention y’all, this is legitimately schizophrenia.

>>95895845
>everyone I don't like is the same person and I can identify them with 100% accuracy
I swear I've heard this bit before

>>95895702
that's an issue with the data sources. improve them here https://github.com/BSData/wh40k-10e

>>95895681
annoying to scrape but could allow user uploads

>>95895677
tbf i think you can pay for that in new recruit

What do we call this time of day in the thread?

>>95895836
>>95895838
I can't help but notice that you don't have any reasons why it's morally acceptable to sexualise minors

>>95895863
normal britoid hours

>>95895863
Slopping hours

>>95895309
flanderisation of 40k means that ONLY the iron warriors use chevrons and ONLY the salamanders use flame patterns in the mind of the newfags.

>>95895309
they do

This model doesn't exist does it?
It's a Mauler Fiends but with Gatling guns

>>95895863
real nomodels hours

>>95895900
Could always get the ratling guns from the stormfiends kit and convert it that way

>>95895900
Nah it's there, but it's a forgefiend probably.

>>95895892
>Threats and tally marks scribbled into the armor
Ah, different times.

>>95895906
You could make an effort to increase the amount of models by posting your own

>>95895912
>posting blizzardslop art

>>95895913
i already have, in this very thread (:

>>95895900
You can't actually be this stupid.

>>95895900
So plasmafiend has made everyone forget about autocannonfiend huh?

>>95895309
>RT style beakie with shark mouth
>chevrons on guns
>armor graffiti
>robot arm
Yeah this artist oldhammers.

>>95895912
That isn't 40k though and anything that even slightly resembles your pic has been retconned out of 40k for 20 years+

>>95895925
I think modern kits have made people forget units used to have options.

>>95895925
I've only ever seen the plasma fiend used in media and models

>>95895938
That's because it is "statistically better". That said, I'm going to get a World Eater's autocannon fiend for teh lulz because rapid fire 6 on each sounds funny.

>>95895923
>it's the decalfaggot
Nevermind, you don't have to post your models. We'd be better off with no models itt than your decalsloppa

>>95895309
Chevrons, hotrod flames, checks, filligree, skulls are all chapter agnostic

Is anyone else having issues with their Ammo by MIG orders being delayed recently? They are normally super reliable, and their ultramatte varnish is my favourite.

>>95895946
Thats not me you retard, im in the thread too.

>>95895833
>why it's morally okay to look at pictures of 8 year old pussy and dead/mutilated 8 year old pussy.
nta, and playing devil's advocate, but why would it be immoral? no crime or slight or damage or insult is being carried out whatsoever; in the same exact way looking at pictures of fictional men fighting other men in war isn't murder, or doesn't make one a bloodthirsty psychopath. does collecting warhammer make you an advocate for genocide, torture, satanism, warcrimes, rape, slavery, tyranny and the grooming of child soldiers?

>>95895943
>That's because it is "statistically better"
Lets be honest, the 3 headed plasma monster is also way cooler looking.

Do you think daemons make for good conversation during downtime in the eye or is it better not to talk to them?

>>95895959
>that's not me I just happened to be here when someone insulted me so i can defend myself
Sure is interesting how often that happens for you
>>95895960
>playing devil's advocate
>for justifying pedophilia
Wew lad

>>95895960
Sure bro, show your mom your loli folder and tell us all how harmless it is. In fact it's so harmless, go show your local police chief, I'm sure you have nothing to worry about

>>95895969
Most of the writing about horrors and nurglings imply they are really fucking annoying, I can't imagine the other daemons are any better

>>95895970
>>95895976
Go back.

>>95895970
I posted my Bears earlier, I been here u niglet

>>95895976
>Britbong thinks the civilized planet operates on the same rules as his third world shithole and punished people for fiction
Lmao

>>95895980
Daemonettes can be good, remember this guy got princedom just to be with his daemonette waifu for eternity.

>>95895970
>>for justifying pedophilia
nobody is justifying pedophilia, or murder, or genocide, torture, satanism, warcrimes, rape, slavery, tyranny and the grooming of child soldiers, here.

>>95895982
I mean if looking at naked minors is so normal, maybe you should tell your irl friends and coworkers how normal and harmless it is. You keep deflecting to this "everyone who doesn't thirst after minors is a redditor" and "pedophiles have always been here even though 99% of the site is a no loli zone" but you haven't made any points mentioning why it's not bad, or why it's cool jerking off to little girls dead bodies

>>95895987
>it was me I was here shitstirring the whole time
I can't pretend I saw this one coming. Very strange self report

>>95895969
Demonettes can be muses, keepers of secrets can exchange gossip, none of the other demons make for good company except maybe lords of change, but even they don't really seem like they actually enjoy being down to earth with mortals, they speak in bullshit, riddles, and any discourse is purely transactional or meant for fucking you over on some kind of pact or plot.

>>95895969
Pink horrors are probably assholes, they are just a bunch of cheery fucks who probably going around playing pranks and setting people on fire. Blue horrors are going to be the reverse and constantly sad. And brimstones should be self explanatory. I'd imagine plaguebearers are rather high strung or droll fellows and nurglings are just funny little guys. I'd imagine every khorne daemon is unpleasant to deal with. And daemonettes would probably be a mixed bag.

>>95895976
are you implying that your mom or police chief would be okay with or even supportive of you showing them whatever other kind of porn folder you have? or are you making a blanket statement about how porn in general is immoral?

>>95896005
Weak shit posting, go to bed niglet

>>95896011
>>95896006
I think I would get a kick out of playing DOTA with a bloodletter bro.

>>95896011
Sassy Nurgling is the clear first among equals but Chill Nurgling has that iconoclast energy.

>>95895993
Syll lewdtongue was noted to be uncharacteristically caring for the mortals she looked over, unlike the other demonettes, who probably act like bitches with them 99% of the time past the initial seduction.

Decalmutant is:
>a merican
>a pedo
>a redditor
>a tourist
>a nazi
>a shitposter
>a lone
>a bad person

This place has become a pro ped shit hole

>>95896030
Schizo babble

>>95896032
>Has become
It's always been for lolichads, you're the outsider

>>95895912
loons like starcraft more than rogue tra-
>blizzard copyright
ah, alright

Units should be able to lead other units.
>IE; nid warriors leading termagants, rubrics being led by tzaangors, cadians herding ogryns.

>>95895969
I'd imagine if you can actually stomach to be around them GUO's are rather nice to hang out with.

>>95896040
Why is the schizo so obsessed with decalfag?

>>95896048
it's decalmutant samefagging hate for himself, everybody has his slop filtered already

>>95896015
Yeah surely the local police chief would have the same reaction to your loli folder that they would have to my Juliette Michelle folder. Both of those things are totally interchangeable in the publics eye for sure
>>95896048
You samefagged the wrong post decalnonce lmfao

>>95896011
>>95896025
I'd like to submit mechanic nurgling for consideration.

>>95896040
You have no models freak

Schizos are ruining this place

>>95896060
If that helps you cope with your tourist status

>>95896056
He's just a helpful guy.

>make a deal with a fren on discord in february
>he buys chinesium resin, delivers it to me, I get a model, I send the rest to him, he repays me for however much the shipping fee is minus the model
>finally get it
>realize, in my hesitation over recasts, I chose only to get a rinky dink minka lesk model instead of a dread or 30k primarch
At least it's not dogshit quality

>>95896054
>Both of those things are totally interchangeable
The reaction would be negative in that case too, but I don't see you arguing that your juliette michelle folder makes you immoral as well for that.

>>95895339
that's literally a joke from the first disc world novel

>>95896052
Kys tranny

>>95896093
well now I have to read them

>>95895220
>Chaplain and Ancient
>No Judiciar
Fuck off

>>95895272
Deal with the paki gangs first before you come here crying about drawing

>>95896064
Nonces are ruining this place

>>95896112
the leaked sprue is the one with the judiciar on it

>>95896091
Why don't you show your favorite, goriest, most underage mossa art to your local bartender, and then show him a picture of juliette michelle where her tits and ass look as fat as possible and see which of those two he has more problems with lmao

>>95896006
Nurglings are fun and adorable pets to the Death guard.

I love how this retard got mad about being called normal and yet his only defense is SEE HOW NOT NORMAL THIS IS????

>>95896139
>X ethnic group is assaulting minors
>but I should be accepted for my love of loli snuff, I swear I'm different
What the helly

>>95896011
I imagine Daemonettes to be like borderline narcissistic psycho bitches. Best sex ever, but also random outbursts of violence and other emotions

Shut the fuck up the pair of you
Shut up

>>95896158
>umad lol
Unonce lol

>>95896090
>minka lesk
Why?

>>95896169
I'm never not going to laugh at weak males who can't even chase adult women in their imagination and need to use children to make their sexual fantasies believable

>>95896162
>What the helly
kys now

>>95896152
>has more problems
if both cause problems, then why are you counting one as moral and the other as immoral? what's the correct amount of problems? why are you using your local bartender as the arbiter of your morals?

you're making no sense, I don't have either a loli folder or a juliette michelle folder, per your suggestion I'd show him the only mossa artwork I have which is the picture of a saurus warrior biting at the throat of a dark elf, I doubt that would cause much of a fuss compared to showing him a porn actress' ass unprompted.
do you do that often?

>>95893110
>>95895268
>korean
I wonder if Mossa and Dutchko know each other I think they would get along just fine.

>>95896090
Why would anyone do this for somebody unless they are your close friend. You're literally throwing money into a hole for no reason

I've noticed this thread only ever gets activity when people are just upset for no reason. On /wfg/ there is some discussion but its also kinda hard carried by some autism flinging. Whats going on with this board, man?

>>95896162
>I swear I'm different
The second is not literally assaulting minors, for starters.

>>95896184
>lol I could show anyone loli snuff and they'd think it was based but an adult with a big bum and big tt?
>no way jose, that would not be okay
Alright bud, let us know how that goes for you lol

>>95895723
>The only real problem faction is tyranids
There's no problem at all. Old lore Tyranids just used the Warp like the Imperium, except it's infinitely safer for them because of the Shadow. New lore they use the Narvhal gravity thing.

>>95896195
>but its also kinda hard carried by some autism flinging.
that's happening here too, except on /wfg/ the extent of autism is about fluff or rules, here the autism is about policing posters.

schizos shouldn't be given access to the internet.

>>95896195
The board is dying. Every day there are less and less posts by unique users. It makes sense that as the number of posters drop, the more noticeable/impactful a single person's posting becomes

I'm convinced that these scumbags are using 40K as a shield from criticism, because the fanbase consists of people who are basically in an abusive relationship with GW, who then go on to get all defensive and contrarian when it's brought up that an artist is an objectively bad person. It's basically the grown up version of being le ebin trole "U mad?" and pretending to either be above it or within it.

>>95896211
>schizos shouldn't be given access to the internet.
Neither should pedophiles but here we are

>>95896216
Cry more tourist

>reddit tourists defending the rights of pixels again
fucking normalfags get the fuck off my board REEEEE

>>95896195
>Whats going on with this board, man?
As more shitposting increased around 2016 people slowly drifted away, eventually you're just left with shitposters.

>>95896216
Tldr for someone who can't be assed reading your blogpost

>>95896216
what in the flying fuck are you even saying, you dumb sperg?

>>95896216
>>95896217
Hey can we go back to talking about the miniature wargame?

>>95896220
>nonces pretending like they represent the majority again
Pottery

Are people crying over Mossa on 4chan? Kill yourselves holy shit, this isn't your hugbox. His art is based as fuck.

>>95896195
One attention seeking autist who won't back down and a handful of attention-providing autists who won't back down.

Each are completely convinced they are epically owning the other, and that everyone actually loves them and hates the other guy. So they feed each other (you)s back and forth in a kind of neuroatypical hate fuelled public mutual masturbation exercise.

Getting it to stop is like untangling a spastic gordian knot. The one guy always gets attention so he always comes back and the other guys always give him attention thinking they're the hero. All very retarded.

>>95896223
He's mad people separate the artist from the artwork.

>>95896233
>Are people
No, just the resident slaaneshi schizo.

>>95896233
>btfo all thread long over how diddlers are subhuman
>needs to post without replies in order to maintain appearances
HAHAHAHAHA

Fellas lets all just get along ok?

>>95896244
>slaaneshi schizo.
Nope, your scapegoat hasn't returned since the site came back.

>>95896246
You know we're all laughing at you right?

>>95896246
I've been out for the past 6 hours and just got home schizo fucking retard.

>>95896244
The dcslopper has mentioned consuming loliporn in the past, get your script straight

I have some serious anger issues but in saying that I'm glad I don't have the same problems as the people in these threads, my lord

WARHAMMER
FORTY
THOUSAND

>>95896250
He only stopped posting models, but he still obsessively shitposts about the posters he hated at the same hours of the day every day.

>>95896252
>>95896253
>10 secs apart
Le ebin samefag loel

>>95896248
Imperium of Man is fuelled by hatred.
And so am I.

>>95896236
>So they feed each other (you)s back and forth in a kind of neuroatypical hate fuelled public mutual masturbation exercise.
I wonder who could be behind it.

>>95896263
Nope! He was utterly inept and incapable of resisting the allure of the negative attention to get himself off, if he was here we'd have early threads every thread and his slop posted with every new brush stroke
Find a new target to schizopost about.

>>95896258
I'm surprised people don't bring this up more

I want to marry a Sister of Battle.

>>95896273
>a 4chan user looks at loli porn
Water is also wet nigger

>>95895242
the closest thing we'll ever get to ROBOT PHASE is if Ultramarines become equal or greater in individual power, and Roboute Guilliman becomes so poweful, he'd need a separate phase just for him

>>95896258
>mention poster X
>but poster Y!
What kind of reply is that supposed to be?

>>95896275
edgecoc is a redditor, not a 4chan user

>>95896173
"test model" and I wanted a castellan at the time
then the FUCKING HELL'S LAST KIT DROPPED and I no longer needed it
>>95896187
Real fucking close dude, for over a decade now.

>>95896279
Wait is that faggot still around

>>95896278
>but poster Y
the slaaneshi schizo IS the dcslopper you fucking larping tourist lmao
>>95896282
No

>>95896282
yes

>>95896282
he's in my walls

>>95896258
>EC is a projecting hypocrite
more news at 11

>>95896144
>A 170 dollar sprue getting sold for most likely 40-60 bucks
what the fuck

I played some warhammer forty thousand the other day

>>95896298
>170 dollar sprue
Fuck did you just say?

What are your hopes for 11th?

>>95895212 (OP)
Alpha legion are the most insufferable thing in 40K, literal Reddit tier le epic trolling fucking faggots

>I am Alphaggot
>NO I am Alfaggot :^)

>>95896303
that it's just 10.5

>>95896282
I'd guess based on the dcslopper styled shitposts that pop up from time to time but directed at the wrong people is a sign that he isn't here. Also the fact that this post>>95896258 doesn't have 80 replies and isn't deleted is a good sign he's not here
>>95896278
You are retarded. The dcslopper and the slaaneshi throoder and the ecslopper and edgecoc are all one dude and its been proven already. He's still posting on reddit if you miss him that much

>>95896300

>>95896300
i think i heard about this
is it any fun?

>>95896227
I'll talk about the game a bit. Here's mucho texto most people won't read:

So my flgs runs a seasonal league which all the players like to participate in. I don't really like leagues because I don't like competitive list building or ugly terrain, but the vast majority of players in the community here only wanted to play games if they were league games, so I signed up just to make sure I always had games to play.

I actually did really well, went 11-1 and qualified for the tournament. But that 12th game I lost was the one that kind of turned me off to the whole thing.

I have found that when it's a casual pickup game I tend to crush, but as soon as you put me up against a tournament-tier list I get tabled by turn 3. So far as I can tell, it's a listbuilding problem - I am playing suboptimal units that just don't cut it at that level. The solution is to get better units...and I won't, because I hate the meta units in IG right now. Tauroxes? I refuse to ever purchase one. Ratlings? No thanks. Artillery? I prefer chimeras.

So I feel like I kind of hit a ceiling, and it's robbed me of the motivation to play. The way to get better seems like 'stop playing the army you like and play one that works better', and that's just an unfun concept to me.

>>95896303
That it's either Horus Heresy rules but for 40k, or that it's so unbelievably bad it makes it even easier to convince people to try old editions.

>>95896300
Those aren't your models though

>>95896298
>>95896302
its basically costed as a really shitty combat patrol. Even has the same number of models as the standard cunt patrol.

>>95896303
Irregular objective areas so all the faggots replace their unsightly circles for even worse looking, even more overpriced, GW exclusive, copyrighted objective shapes.

>>95896303
AoS 4e IN SPAAAAAAAACE

>>95896303
I actually like tenth. So I hope its more of the same, maybe make it more /yourdudes/ friendly too, and make the game less hordey.
Also firstborn are killed off, completely.

>>95896309
Depends on whether your brand new freshly painted skorpekhs get shot to death before achieving anything, honestly.

Still won though.
>>95896308

>>95896321
BASED

>the schizo gets called edgecoc
>multiple posts of "he's not edgecoc guys, I swear I know"
>shitposting stops

>>95896332
yes you stopped your shitposting after you namedropped your target so you could make this post, we know

>>95896332
I legitimately don't care nigger, talk about the game. If the shitposting stops, don't bring it up again.

>>95896333
Trips of truth

>>95896332
who cares
we're all into what we want right now, show me more models guys

I'm working on shit and I need inspiration.

>>95896303
100€ per infantry model

>>95896303
Rak'Gol army release

>>95896344
The sad part? the competition gw "has" will still find a way to fuck up.

>>95896346
Anon... the copyright... you have to let go...

>>95896258
Dcslopper?

>>95896303
>wargear costs/ppm returning
>actual psychic phase return
>points increase for all units in the game by 15% minimum
Do those and the game will be great. This is GW we're talking about though so we'll be lucky if we even get one of them.

>>95896303
A new army range.

Something that makes you want to start the army. I'm betting its worth a look at a new army these days.

Maybe something like a mercenary or pirate range based on all the available races that 'could' merge.

Ork/Human/Traitor etc

Edgecoc is relentless

You're very desperate for attention tonight

>>95896359
The only rumor about new factions is one for darkmek, I think GW is at a point where it physically cannot bring itself to make something new instead of digging up something old in its own IP, which is a shame because 40k and fantasy got great thanks to blatant plagiarism, while they path they're walking can only lead to the IP getting more and more inbred.

But then again, there's not much around in the world right now that could be compared to the iconic shit of the 80s and 90s, and copied, if anything all other medias are treading and retreading the same slop as well, if not even worse because they go at it at a way faster pace than gw.

>>95896323
I dislike that GW nuked all the custom subfaction rules in 10th, combined with how a lot of detachments pigeon-hole you into only running a few units.

I wish the votann were a new kind of xenos space dwarf, like Eldar are space elves, instead of them being short humans.

>>95896387
if eldar weren't isolationists and aggressive they would have been annexed and categorised as abhumans by the imperium.

>>95896093
It's way, way, way older than that. It's in the Talmud.

>>95896348
What happened...

>>95896387
B-But muh Squats and muh DAoT!!!

>>95895966
Eh, not exactly for me. I'm biased though, I love big rotary cannons.

>>95896412
the rotary cannons aren't the problem, but the fact the head doesn't mirror the weapons like with the plasma option

I'd not consider the plasmafiend so superior to the rotorfiend if the latter have a rotary cannon head too

>>95896420
Y'know what? That'd be nice.

>>95896384
I do agree with you on that.

>>95896387
Too bad gw is too chained down by its older lore, everything is a sacred cow now.

>>95896427
After seeing how GW handles nu-lore sometimes (Ynnari), it's probably for the best.

>>95896433
if the ynnari went nowhere it's specifically because gw was too afraid of shaking the status quo to reinvent the eldar and chickened out at the last moment.

>>95896162
Drawings aren't real people.
This is like acting that anyone playing violent video games is secretly wants to be a murderer.

>>95896437
The problem being that change in of itself isn't good and Ynnari heading towards the direction of killing off Dark Eldar as a faction was going to be a disastrous course.

>>95896443
stop replying to yourself to stir shit up, faggot

>>95896303
Wargear costs coming back but much much lower so you can get a power fist/plas pistol for 5pts each. However, lots of wargear should still be free, especially on utility units

>>95896387
I wish there were less stomp attacks and that SIVA makes a return.

>>95896311
>try older editions
Never fucking happening, I've tried for so long and dealt with so much FUCKING BITCHING about the current state of 10th, yet no one in my group wants to try anything else other than 10th.
I think I will keep seething about this till the day I die.

Do you think Iron Warriors make fun of the ones who can't spit acid?

Good night my dewds

>>95896499
Good night fyreslayers anon

>>95896387
Eh I like it. The fact that essentially a forgotten daot automated mining rig developed into a galactic civilization is kinda funny

>>95896447
Looking at how well executed the blend of craft and deldar armor is in the visarch and corsairs, I doubt it.

nopix
I did 3 of my "Ryans Leaper" spiders tonight. Progress is swimmingly, after having done the 120 'hormagaunts' these guys are simple..

Still dreading the genestealer and now the neurolictor conversions.

>>95895212 (OP)
>TQ
Postan

Slowly working on my sagitaur for the June collage thing. And because my midgets need a car.

>>95896494
Night lords and IW spit on fists from their citadel walls

tfw wanna start but can neither decide on faction (lgs is effectively just marine derivatives with 1-2 xenos and while I want TS it'd just be contributing to the problem) nor can spare space in the house to paint and keep models in

>I don't care about winning or losing, my only desire is cause as much pain and anguish for my opponent as possible

Best army for this feel?

>>95896575
Wolf jail

>>95896575
200 poxwalkers

>>95896575
Have you considered 2000pts of dreadnoughts

>>95896575
chaos daemons
>3 GUOs
>54 nurglings
>40 plaguebearers
>6 beasts of nurgle
2000 points exactly
no opponent will ever want to play against you more than once

>>95896575
I'd normally say green tide but I don't think it's as good as it used to be. Also it will most likely give you anguish in the form of back pain

>>95896354
>actual psychic phase return
yes because new players need another fucking phase with its own rules to keep track of

you'd be surprised how many new players forget their units abilities (doesn't help that EVERY unit has an ability, even ones that are just another unit but with a different weapon, like Infernus marines vs Intercessors)

>>95896499
>oops all basecoats
-10vp

>>95896575
ork
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExoHe4XxvA

>>95896628
I personally don't like this kind of argumentation, because that line of reasoning will lead us to rock bottom with a shrimplfied game with no flavour.

>>95896636
The uncomfortable truth is that normies and casual consumers of every video game or hobby make up 90% of your paying customers. (You) are not significant compared to the grey tide of average players.

>>95896639
While the truth, still doesn't make me happy to know that.

>>95896625
What do they do?

>>95896640
You should be in a constant fear that everything you love will be stolen from you by entropy. Warhammer complexity, money, loved ones, strawberries, all of it.

>>95896639
Here is the real kicker: Normalfags and average joes are good for short term profit, but they are fickle fags that move onto next product over and over again with little to no attachment to previous products. Autismos and nerds may not be the most profitable, but they are loyal to a fault. They will bitch, moan and complain, but in the end if you tickle their fancy enough they'll stay and be passive income for you. It'd be interesting to measure this in a long term sense.

>>95896230
>Britkek crying about drawings again while ignoring the paki grooming gangs
Nonce island

>>95896641
They don't die, come back, and do every secondary.

>>95896649
This is what you'd *expect* to be true on paper, but actually, isn't

Case in point: the most, and I mean most by a HUGE MARGIN, the most profitable product Wizards of the Coast, makers of Magic the Gathering cards, ever made were their stupid fucking card-crossovers with existing IPs

Pic related, a shitty crossover with The Walking Dead, that every veteran player HATED because it wasn't just a vanity card/alt art (like the Godzilla cards) but a real card that was ruining the atmosphere of the game with modern/contemporary settings

This fucking thing was the most profitable thing WotC ever made up until that point. No contest, it outsold everything they had ever made up until that point. Normies who just wanted slop that they recognized ate it up, and veteran players who have been playing for years got completely outclassed

the honest truth is you are massively, massively underestimating how many normies with disposable income there are. the "loyal" veterans of a hobby are peanuts compared to them.

(You) are not important to Games Workshop's bottom line.

>>95896649
>>95896676
Also before you say "oh, the normies will just buy this and move on," no, because WotC keeps making more cross-over slop to appeal to them. The Final Fantasy crossover set just dropped this week. It won't end.

>>95896676
>>95896680
Fair point, I'm just wondering how long this will last because looking outside of the ttg space, you can see super popular things eventually dropping off of normalfag radars quickly. The only thing that seems to be getting attention is nostalgiabux these days, which I think is why the MtG effect is happening: It's not so much what they have done with the game but rather they tapped into the normalfag "nostalgia" factor inside of a nerdy hobby. It's not like mechanically MtG has changed, most of the formats still play mostly like you would expect Magic to play.
40k is in a different position I feel, where the game itself is changing mechanically to fit the normalfag audience and only time will tell if this will play out long term or go the way that legacy IPs seem to be going these days: Milked to death then tossed aside until it can be cashed in for nostalgia points.
See: Vidya, movies and tv. The only entertainment mediums not affected by this thus far does seem to be TTG and music for some reason.

>>95896676
To my dismay, our gaming club is full of veterans who have tens of commander decks solely made up of fucking ezio auditore from AC, walking dead, transformers slop and a ton of other universes beyond decks. Even old players buy this shit.

>>95896685
40k can't really be tossed aside the way other IPs do because 40k is GW's only relevant IP and something they've been working on for the better part of half a decade.
Why would they kill the goose? It would be silly.

>>95896685
True, you can dumb down the art of mtg without affecting the game - though I think this is mostly because they can't lol, they should do away with the lands system but kind of can't because of how entrenched it is in their system + the physical cards (it's why the digital MtG Arena is starting to distance itself from the physical game's rules but that's beside the point)

Most games get more and more streamlined to appeal to normies, because it makes sense, you've already captured the attention of your core audience, the only way to expand your business is to change the product to be more appealing to a more generic amount of people. Were Games Workshop satisfied with the profits they're making now and didn't expand, they wouldn't have to do this, but capitalism is a false-hydra that will grow until it dies under its own weight.

Looking at how WoW streamlined the shit out of itself every expansion and now it is the most normieslop video game out there

>>95896697
>Why would they kill the goose?
To try and get even more than it gave them on a greedy dare fueled by arrogance.

>>95896697
We have seen GW toss away an old IP they have worked on for decades once it stopped making money due to their stupid decisions.

one thing that I miss from older rulebooks is those cute little phrases to give some theme to rules
i don't know how to explain it but a current rulebook says something like
"if a transport advances models inside cannot disembark"
and older one would say something like
"if a transport advances models inside cannot disembark, not even the bravest warriors would dare attempt getting off a vehicle moving at full speed"

i miss those tiny bits of fluff. they used to be everywhere too

:(

>>95896694
The best secret lair that MTG ever did was with the guy who drew all the old conan the barbarian art. I want to buy this set so bad but I got laid off months ago and my savings are dwindling.

>>95896707
It made some of the weapon rules feel better too, getting a feel of how the weapon actually fires and how horrifying it is.

>>95896705
we've been over this
nobody plays TOW except for people wearing thigh-high programmer socks

>>95895212 (OP)
you dont need to make new threads at 540/121 anon. At least let it hit the image limit.

>>95896710
9-foot-tall femboy twinks in power armor
tasty

>>95896703
>>95896705
I am not defending GW but the core problem here is that they do not have that other IP that would give them more money. The overwhelming amount of their relevance and income comes exclusively from 40k and there's no other IP that comes even close. If that IP appeared then yes, I could see 40k being in dire straits, but I don't think it's something we will have to worry about for the foreseeable future. The larger the company the more risk averse it is as well.

>>95896717
I thought the rule was page 8.

>>95896720
7'

>>95896697
>the better part of half a decade
half a century?

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

While I know Plague Marines generally wear MkIII armour, what's with this style of helmet? It doesn't look particularly corrupted or baroque, just a functional helmet. Some kind of variant for MkIII?

>>95896740
it's based on the conversions the sculptor did for his own death guard before he joined GW, It's essentially the back of a normal helmet with some goggles and a grill.
consider it repurposed scraps of actual armors.

>>95896748
That's really cool! I wish more people were like you, helpful without being sarcastic. Instead the thread is filled with shitters these days.

>>95896736
No, gw didn't exist before covid, all documents and testimonies are fabricated to inflate the perceived value of their products and IP as something long established and cared for.

>>95896740
I'd wager the non-MK3 ones like that are probably some form of MK5 as in scrounged together from what they could get to fill the role.

>>95896752
Yeah... it's silly to be nostalgic, but this board was so much better just a few years ago.
Maybe I'm just being a fuddy-duddy, but each year it gets just a little bit worse.

>>95896724
10'

kroot shouldnt be a horde.

Where did the Golden throne come from? Didn't the emperor discover it and not create it?

>>95896801
It fell off a truck

>>95896801
I made it

https://youtu.be/PlK3T2DeJuc?si=odXAtlTsAwCHgIxB
RIP, I really would've liked to see a series on the Siege of Terra

>>95896676
I'm just imagining how people would bitch and then also buy it if you got like two limited edition Marvel Heroes like Iron Man and Doctor Doom models with 40k rules for Space Marines and CSM.

>>95895592
Here's my version from homebrewfag because Fuck You.

>-1 OC for battleline, 0OC otherwise for all units. Can't Use Stratagems and must take a Desperate Escape Test. In addition, for each army:
Marines:
>Squad Broken: Unit Cohesion between models is now 3-4 other models. The rule is ignored if the unit is within 3" of a Chaplain or Judiciar
Chaos Marines:
>Warp Fueled Insanity: Roll a d6 before a model declares an attack, subtracting 1 if the unit is below starting strength. On a 1, that attack targets itself. This rule is ignored if within 3" of a Dark Apostle or Master of Executions
Guard:
>Tactical Withdraw: Every infantry platoon unit must lose d3 units at the start of the command phase. If the unit is battleline, roll a d6 instead. Any Commissar within 12" can slay one model in that unit instead and ignore the effect entirely.
Sisters
>Test of Faith: The unit cannot use miracle dice for any test neither can they use their Cherubim. If the unit is 6" of a Sister Dogmata or Imagifier, that unit can use their Cherubim.
Mechanicus:
>Omnissiah's Punishment: All weapons have the [Hazardous] ability unless they are within 3" of a Cybernetica Datasmith or a TechPriest Engiseer
Grey Knights:
>Perils of the Warp: All psychic weapons gain the hazardous keyword unless the unit is within 3" of a Brotherhood Chaplain
Imperial Knights:
>Broken Honour: This unit must charge or shoot the nearest enemy target with a -1 to hit unless within 6" of a Knight Perceptor.
Chaos Knights:
>Unstable Warp Energies: When a unit fails a hitroll, that hitroll targets themselves or the nearest friendly unit instead. This effect is ignored if within 6" of a friendly Knight Tyrant.
Death Guard:
>The Folly of Attempting: Any time a unit move, charges, or attacks, take a leadership test. If the test fails, the action does not go through. This effect is ignored if the unit is within 6" of a Tallyman or Mortarion.
>to be continued

>>95896829
buy an ad

>>95896787
Kroot should play like people imagine Exodites would. They ought to be the lizard men of 40k.

>>95896841
Nah, this is cheaper

First tournament weekend of all Chapter Approved '25 events. How'd GW do on the balance pass, do you think?

>>95896840
Neat, can't wait to see the rest.

So my next shooty army could be World Eaters.

*Berzerker Warband*
3x Defilers(Scourges)
3x Land Raiders
3x Foregefiends(Jaws)
1x10 Bloodletters
1x Prince of Khorne

(Rapid Fire Range)
60 Hades Autocannon Shots
18+3D6 Defiler Cannon Shots
24 Reaper Autocannon Shots
24 Lascannon Shots
15 Heavy Bolter Shots(TL)
36 Combi Bolter Shots
(Bloodletters don't get bonuses but the defilers hit 11 attacks when charging, Foregefiends start looking meaner)

This is a serious WTF moment for me.

>>95896866
derp, messed up on bloodletters, scrap those for something else

>>95896862
Out of my armies:
>Crons
Nice to see the destroyer based detachments doing well, but I know they are going to get nerfed for it as well. Shame. Glad Canoptek Court is low though.
>CSM
Dread Talons getting plays feels good for my Night Lords, no IW detachment getting play makes me sad.
>World Eaters
As expected, 8bound carrying the codex
>Nids
So everyone is allergic to using swarm spam huh?

>>95896862
I hit post before finishing
>Dark Eldar
I knew Skysplinter is still the way to go. Keep trucking you magnificent bastards.

I don't get how people can not use recasters at least for characters this shit is absolutely unexcusable

>>95896874
Reaper's had more players in winning positions, despite fewer players. I think Skysplinter just has too many bad matchups now and is way too fragile to armies that can effectively pressure your transports. Reaper's had the tools to fight back against more board states and doesn't require the early snowball as much.

>>95896840
>Part 2 because Fuck You
Thousand Sons:
>Tzeentch's Plan at Work: Roll a d6 every time a unit declares an attack with a psychic weapon. On a 1 or 2, that unit deals a mortal wound to itself or a friendly unit within 12". This effect is ignored if within 6" of an Infernal Master or Magnus the Red
World Eaters
>The Nails Are Biting: When a unit declares an attack and slays an opponent's unit or if the unit has not fought this turn, any leftover wounds are instead allocated to a friendly unit within 3"; if the unit has not attacked, then it must declare an attack on itself or on a friendly unit within 3". This effect is ignored if a unit is 6" within a Master of Executions or Angron.
Emperor's Children
>Sensational Withdrawl: Unless that unit has successfully charged into an enemy model, all models in this unit fight last and lose the [precision] keyword if it had it. This effect is ignored if within 6" of a Lord Kakophonist or Fulgrim
Chaos Daemons:
>Flickering Existence: Unless within 6" of the Shadow of Chaos, infantry units with a starting strength 3 models or more must remove one model from the unit. Units with a starting strength of 10 models must remove d3 models instead.
Craftworld Knife-Eared Shits
>The Great Enemy's Gaze: Every time this unit attacks, take a leadership test. If the test fails, that unit must either take d3 wounds or remove d3 models from the unit. This effect is ignored if within 3" of a Farseer or Avatar of Khaine. In addition, this effect is ignored for Aspect Warriors if they are within 12" of their respective phoenix lord (except Striking Scorpions because Fuck You). Ynnari units ignore this effect when within 6" of a Ynnari Character, and Harlequins are immune (Read Striking Scorpions)
The Cooler Knife-Eared Shits
>The Thrill of Fear: When a unit activates a pain token, that unit is empowered for the entire turn. If a unit is within 6" of a Cronos when a pain token is used, then that unit is empowered for the rest of the round

>>95896829
Well looking forward to seeing his style cover battletech wars.

>>95896829
>literal who sloptuber that probably plays Guard
nothing of value was lost

he'll be back in a month, his literal entire revenue stream is based around complaining about 40k

>>95895592
>custodes just plain immune
Hmm... I remember the discussion the previous day, and saying something along the line of "custodes players will be whiny about this and claim battleshock shouldn't work on them" and lo and behold.

>>95896779
>10"

>>95896837
if we're going off of how WotC and MtG are doing, we can expect an official Squidward Tentacles model as a new dark eldar model.

>>95896905
in that case insane people who feel nothing in regard to their own death like most of chaos shouldn't feel battle shock

>>95896862
considering this means death guard aren't going to get the nerfbat as hard as we thought, pretty good.

fuck necrons

>>95896881
>I don't get how people can not use recasters
I ordered a recast of some rhino doors for death guard 2 months ago and they haven't even shipped yet

>>95895712
If in UK or EU: https://www.rosemaryandco.com/watercolour-brushes/pure-kolinsky-sable
Cant recommend them enough, I goto them for all my brushes these days, used to use Raphael, Artis Opus & W&N, but honestly I cant see the difference to make the price hike worth it. Their synthetics are really decent too and cheap, I keep a big bunch of their S301's on hand for when I need a brush I dont mind fucking up lol.
Just one other thing, that's a really really small tip on that brush, I'd question if you would ever need a brush that small if you have a brush that keeps its tip well instead. Even for stuff like eyes I go for a number 3 or 2 with a good tip rather than a 0 or whatever it is.

>>95896915
10ft

>>95896928
As a crons player myself, what's the deal? Lokhust (Being the unit that benefits both from Starshatter and Annihilation) being hyper mobile death machines? Warrior Blobs jerking off on secondaries?

Is he wrong

>>95896947
>Twitter screencap
Regardless, what does this mean? Most people have a problem with Warhammer having an ongoing narrative, not lore/fluff.

>>95896947
That's true for just about everything though, especially nerd fandoms. People hold onto their idea of what something should be and fight tooth and nail to protect it.

>>95896950
I think people have an issue with how the ongoing narrative is executed, rather than it being.

>>95896943
half of my disdain for current necron lists isn't even their strength, it's just how boring they are. it seems like their entire strategy revolves around arks, though I'm a little out of date, maybe they're not as strong now as when the grotmas detachment first came out but it's still boring seeing them run about as many models as a custodes list because almost all of it is tied up in vehicles and less on actual infantry

>>95896924
Which is of course one of the main issues with portraying morale in 40k, so many armies have excuses to be immune to it. Space marines literally have the tagline "And they shall know no fear". Battleshock is meant to present many other things that go wrong during a fight as well, and there's literally no reason Custodes should be immune beyond Custodes players being whiny fuckers who don't want the feefees of their precious golden banana men hurt.

>>95896904
>he'll be back in a month
I think that's what people said about the Emperor text to speech guy

>>95896947
>>95896950
he's absolutely right, because the second you start thinking hard about warhammer lore it gets bogged down

warhammer lore was always intended to be:
>cool guy shoots cool gun
and never more complicated than that.

>>95896947
Only crazy people can look at all the 40k lore at face value and like it, think it's consistent and think makes sense. For everyone else, to some degree, there's picking and choosing what to enjoy.

>>95896896
Addendum before p3: Any daemon within the Shadow of Chaos is exempt and any daemon wholey within 6" of a model with the Shadow of Chaos aura is also exempt.
Now for Part 3 because Fuck You:
Orkz
>DIS IS GETTIN ZOGGIN BORING: Roll a d3 for every unit with 10 models. That many models are removed. If the unit is 20 models, roll a d6 instead. This effect is ignored if the unit is within 3" of a Warboss or 12" of a Towering (Gorkanaut, Morkanaut, Stompa, Squiggoth(?)) unit.
Necrons
>Aging Disfunction: Roll a d6 at the start of the command phase for each unit that activates their Reanimation Protocols or Living Metal ability. On a 4+, the ability goes off. This effect is ignored within 6" of a Psychomancer, 3" of a Royal Warden, or 12" of the Silent King.
Tau:
All is Lost!: Unless within 6" of an Ethereal unit, one additional model is removed any time the is unit has to remove any models as the result of allocated wounds or mortal wounds.
Tyranids
>Natural Instincts: Unless within synaptic range of a unit, this unit is always considered battleshocked. When this unit is in engagement range of an enemy unit and not within synaptic range, this unit fights last.
Genestealer Cults:
>The Star Gods Have Abandoned Us!: Units that are battleshocked cannot be put in strategic reserves. If the unit was slain while battleshocked, it cannot return as a result of Cult Ambush. This effect is ignored for all units if the Patriarch is on the battlefield.
Squats:
>Ancestor's Scorn: Battleshocked units that are slain do not generate a Judgement Token. In addition, battleshocked units must attack enemy units as if the unit had one less judgement token on them. This effect is ignored if the unit is within 6" of a Grimnyr

>>95896962
I think it depends how you look at lore. If you look at lore as set dressing and excuses for games to happen, I think nobody minds that. If you make lore as a word of god that these things happened exactly this way with no variation and it's stupid to think any more than that, then yeah, people like idea of it more than it actually being.

>>95896963
warhammer lore is just
>whoa look at that guy shoot that ork
>whoa look at that big fuckin spaceship in the background
>whoa look at the captain with his sword
it's like that dawn of war meme where the tank commander wants to hit the guy with his sword. it's not supposed to be taken seriously, it's just supposed to be fun

"media literacy" types don't understand FUN. "media literacy" types try to analyze the deep themes and metaphors in Moby Dick instead of appreciating a kick-ass story about a dude trying to kill an unkillable monster.

>>95896950
me like imagining tales of my dudes doing cool stuff that matter
me no like when its my dudes-epic dude getting their shit rocked as a saturday villain or incompetent fool
me no like when what i consider to be a part of my-dudes characterization to be acting opposite of that
me no like that event essentially meaning fuck all

>>95896963
Yeah, this.
It's how I treat any 40k lore GW peddles. I just take the bits I like and I throw rest of it out the window into the wood chipper.
And unironically it is the only good way to enjoy 40k at all.

>>95896935
10"'

>>95896970
I can accept historical context of Moby Dick to be considered, as stories are often products of their time, but if the author doesn't put something into a story, then it's not going to be in my mind when reading it.

>>95896740
eggman marine

>>95896988
>writers who use subtext are all cowards
holy BASED

>>95896962
>warhammer lore was always intended to be:
>cool guy shoots cool gun
>and never more complicated than that.
Good god it triggers me so much when people try to look for more depth in the shitty warhammer lore. It's literally just an excuse to sell plastic toy soldiers, stop pretending you're an intellectual for reading BL slop

>>95896738
Carnac you need to seek help or just start taking your meds as prescribed.

>>95896829
At this point it is pointless to do 40k related fan content. Genuinely better off if you never even touch it.
And he is right about GW's legal practise shit, it's just too much of a risk because if those cunts think you're "too problematic", they will try to get rid of you anyway possible and you can't do shit about it because GW is a giant corporation.

Dark Eldar refresh coming soon, I can feel it.

Why does Tzeentch need an army of supersoldiers?

>>95897031
Got lost, faggot!

>>95896840
>>Omnissiah's Punishment: All weapons have the [Hazardous] ability unless they are within 3" of a Cybernetica Datasmith or a TechPriest Engiseer
i think what you meant to type was actually "within 3" of a battleline unit" :^)

>>95897035
Because everyone else has one?

>>95896962
>>95897008
>it's not meant to be deep
That is true, but at the same time it will be the downfall for GW.
Because as soon as fans realize that the company and writers behind the setting/IP don't give a shit about it at all and do whatever, like break or intentionally break established rules of the setting or its rules. It just tells everyone the company no longer cares about the actual product and they only care about selling as much shit so they can squeeze out every penny from their customer base.

And once the fans realize that and notice everything that is made is just soulless, grey mush with no passion behind it, the fans will just stop caring and move on.
Apathy is the true killer. Because once nobody gives a shit about your IP, it will wither and die.

Good example of this was Dr. Who. Even me a plebian who has only watched like 1 or 2 episodes , I know that the Doctor can regenerate only 12 times after that he dies permanently.
Well what did the people behind Dr. Who do? They just up-ended that piece of lore entirely and just said "fuck it" and had the Doctor regenerate anyway for the 13th time, breaking the lore.

>>95897048
>Because as soon as fans realize that the company and writers behind the setting/IP don't give a shit about it at all and do whatever, like break or intentionally break established rules of the setting or its rules
My man they have been doing this nonstop for DECADES.

>>95896947
>Horus Heresy series sells a billion books in you are path

>>95897055
And it still sucks and it clearly burned a lot of people on the way.
Like primaris are a perfect example.

>>95896924
almost every faction in the game can make a completely reasonable claim that they are immune to fear effects
everyone just need to accept its a gameplay thing and every army needs to engage with the mechanic

maybe they should call the thing "pinned" or something because any name that even vaguely sounds like fear or shellshock really rattles he marinefags into a frenzy

I'm looking for a pdf with info for every power armor mark. the info was on some sort of limited edition cards and not WD.

I found myself getting nostalgic for 9th edition
Fuck it's so over for me

Practicality question
If I really like a certain unit say warboss on bike (rip), or whatever its now called, how stupid is giving him 1 maxed out squad even if not playing their "supposed" detachment? As much as I'd like bike guys army the fact that so much shit has big bases is killing me inside

>>95896738
>>95897031
Now kiss.

>>95896483
Sorry anon I missed your post. I'm probably gonna finish it today so I'll take more pictures from different angles once it's done.

>>95897048
You can have passion and soul without needing it to be deep.
You can have retcons and developments for good, fun, soulful reasons.

>>95896186
I think Mossa has done fanart of Vesna
He had done fanart of most the popular Twitter OCs

>>95895519
what's this clown doing with his clown nose

>>95897031
cute feet

>>95897048
I think Dr. Who being written by current-year brits did more to kill off the franchise than breaking their lore did
>cue that one scene from the recent special of a woman and a transwoman scolding a white man for being white and male
i wish I was exaggerating this even slightly but no, i'm not. Dr. Who died the second it became the latest pawn of the culture war. i could care less if a doctor reincarnation was black or a woman but adding a line where somebody says
>"gee doctor you were so much smarter when you were a woman than when you were a man!"
is impressively stupid. you just know some fat sexless woman wrote this slop out of spite.

>>95897061
Even fantasy has been shitting itself with how they gave Bretonnians ranged warfare

>>95897061
the only people that genuinely care about primaris are the people who were mad they had to re-buy their entire space marine army.

a reasonable reason to be mad, but people pretend the reason they don't like primaris is "the lore" despite them having never even read a single warhammer book in their lives.

>>95897063
necrons accepted in 5th that their forces fleeing represented programmed tactical withdrawing rather than panic, marinefags can do the same.

>>95897116
>the commission-level 1ksons painter is almost done with his rhino
i'm excited

No kill team typhon for me

>>95897175
The new tyranids in Typhon look cool but the paint scheme they picked looks atrocious
>they painted the brains piss-yellow
yuck

>>95897175
It did get snapped up rather fast.
Hope we're not back to the bad old Gallowdark days of sub 2-minute sellouts and scalpers.

>>95897175
Good. Now you finish your backlog.

>>95897181
That's not the brains, it's glands and sensory organs.

Typhon is an excellent colour scheme and should have been the hive fleet to emerge for the 4th tyrannic war instead of leviathan, which was only reused because GW wouldn't bother painting a new army for showcase in army pictures.

>>95897198
Hive Fleet Typhon is ugly

>>95897206
You're ugle

>>95897198
I think GW originally wanted it to be a new fleet but chickened out on advertising a new color scheme because it would be more difficult for new painters. They've done that before. But there's probably some alternative universe where the launch box was called "Typhon"

>>95897175
Ushi's going to burn to ashes your Agri-World anytime

I've been thinking about this. Would Dark Eldar actually increase significantly in popularity of they got a big wave of plastic releases like Craftworld Eldar did? Is it actually the themes and aesthetics of the army that drives people away from the least played faction or is it just the old plastic and resin stuff you can't buy anymore?

>>95896862
Deathguard stronk

>>95897258
A better and funnier question is, will GW let the dawn of war remake release with 3rd edition Dark Eldar models in it?

>>95896947
Thats most "lore"

>>95897164

>>95897258
Your average 40k normie would look at dark eldar and go
>Who?
they don't have new plastic because they're unpopular, not the other way around.

>>95897258
Of course its their theme and aesthics, damn idiot. They are homosexual evil spiky space elves who love to torment and torture. And no, don't compare them to Chaos, they are missing thousands of elements that Chaos has that they don't.

Is gold and silver all that really fits for thousand son trim?

>>95897156
They've always had peasantry archers.
They used to even have cannons back in the day.

>>95897258
I'd consider them if they weren't so fucking porno to breaking.

>>95897302
>porno
PRONE.
ffs.

Finished this old commissar a few days ago for my Drookians as the new ones don't fit the scale.

Realised next to my champion (marbo proxy) it's a virgin "got this sword when I graduated from the schola" Vs the chad "this sword is my chief's favourite and I've never been educated"

>>95897213
>because it would be more difficult for new painters
The scheme can be simplified to remove the feathering and still remain recognisable
>black carapace
>dark blue for ribs and upper arms
>rest of the exoskeleton and arms past the elbow in light blue
>dark red talons, weapons and hooves
>red/purple gills, sections under the exoskeleton, and bulbous part of the head
>white face (the eyesockets, cheekbones and lower jaw are neatly separated from the rest of the head already) and hands
>lime green venom, yellow and white patterns at will
it's more complex than the normal color coding of fleets, but it far from difficult

>>95897031
>>95896738
hell yeah.

>>95897292
Explain what Emperor's Children have that appeals to normies they Dark Eldar do not. Besides power armor.

>>95897285
Only you and your favourite sloptuber think the average 40k normie has no idea of 40k beyond marines.

>>95897327
They're still Space Marines and children love Space Marines.

>>95897258
Of course, faction popularity has always been proportional with the amount and frequency of new products.
That and the strength of their rules.

>>95897328
>he thinks 40k normies know or care about models that aren't marines
point and laugh at this cope and seethe, marines will always be the one and only faction that matters

apparently some youtuber, janovich, is saying he's done with warhammer

anyone know why?

>>95897327
Noise marines are cool
I also want to play as drug addicted sadistic rapists who are doing it simply because they love it
They love drugs so much that their crusade rules are the most low stakes stuff in the game
While everyone else is unlocking super artifacts, conquering planets and forming logistic lines. All you do is play Breaking Bad

>>95897344
GW copyright Jannies are aggressive
Cant blame him

>Imperial Knights getting delayed again. Get an index update in the meantime.
What the fuck happened to them? Did GW fuck up the new sprue or lose all the printed copies.

>>95897344
>caring about sloptuber drama
kys, unironically

>>95897346
he lied directly to me the last time this happened a few years ago (remember that whole IP fiasco)

why should I trust him unless he provides evidence?

>>95897344
dunno, ask @gork

>>95897327
>Explain what Emperor's Children have that appeals to normies
They are space marines. DEldar are not.

>>95897356
It's okay, redshirt.
Just a few more posts and you get that 25$ giftcard to Aldi.

>>95897352
id guess a mold for new knight broke or is having big quality issues with bubbling

>>95897344
Does it matter? Maybe hes just bored of it.

>>95897258
For me it's the fact that each of the army sub-factions barely has jack.
Wyches have the most, but get the worst rules. Kabal have the best rules but the least amount of units for their respective sub-faction. You would think they would lean into the Blades for Hire more but nope. Haemonculus have the best of both worlds but people don't like body horror because ????
It sucks man, there is so much potential with a faction that are actually three sub-factions raiding around the galaxy together.

>>95897258
>Is it actually the themes and aesthetics of the army that drives people away from the least played faction
In part, slaanesh has never been popular either

>>95897375
doesnt look like it

>>95897370
>>95897352
Lol at Dark Eldar not being the last codex anymore

>>95897379
Oh in terms of aesthetics as well I never grew out of my edgy phase so they are perfect for me.
Look at this motherfucker. Has just as much energy as the coolest chaos lords.

>>95897382
EC sold like mad and they had the most anemic faction launch of all time.

>>95897270
If they're not making Space Marines into Primaris I don't know why they would give a fuck about Drukhari

>>95897387
All the coolest Dark Eldar art doesn't look anything like the models they actually sell now, though

>>95897018
>can't do shit about it
I still hold out hope that all giants can be killed with enough determination and insanity

>>95897270
The game is just a remake.
They aren't even changing the marines.

>>95897398
Which is a bit of a problem innit? The Kabal stuff looks pretty great and Incubi are GOATED, but their other shit doesn't hold up and what's worse is that they used to have better looking stuff before the models' second refreshes (Archon vs Archon, Lelith vs Lelith)

>>95897388
>EC sold like mad
No, they didn't, and what they sold they sold because gw doubled down on making them just pink chaos marines, shying away from actual slaanesh stuff.

Golden Son

>>95897412
Shiny.
Recipe?

>>95897412
carry on my golden son

>>95897412
golden poop hehehe

>>95897398
this is the problem, i've seen tonnes of great deldar art and none of the models look half as fucking cool as they do.

>>95897412
This mad son of a bitch about to set all his Djinn and Unleash Megiddo

>>95897431
The one upside to DE refresh ritual poster is I've seen a lot of cool DEldar art I had never seen before

>>95897438
Everything has a positive.
But I guess while we are at this point the question can be asked: What does the DEldar art have that the models do not?
It's obvious to anyone who has seen both side by side, but it'll be interesting to see more outside thoughts to it.

>>95897441
The art is all sharp and thin lines and fine points drawn from extreme angles. Models have oversized spikes and blades that look clunky because they are molded plastic, and they're STILL fragile as all hell even with that concession of being thick and rounded versions of what they are trying to imitate.

>>95897412
How did you get it so shiny? Used glossy primer?

>>95897412
quit stealing models from reddit

>>95897412
is that the worlds goldest gold?

>>95895338
science

>>95897441
>What does the DEldar art have that the models do not?
whatever the fuck is going on in picrel. weird, gothic fetish BDSM stuff.
make deldar sexier, and spikier, and it'll be popular.

Just out of curiosity, have any of you guys gotten 1000 space marine miniatures to have a complete chapter?

>>95897522
I have about 30 or 40 salamander models which I believe is accurate to how many salamanders are left in the galaxy, so yes?

>>95897388
Then why are multiple lgs in my region parting out the fomo boxes like they're aos starter boxes? Not complaining, i got some noise marines for cheap.

>>95897522
I've been working on a company sized marine force for awhile now because its something I've always thought was a cool thing to work towards.

>>95897522
Don't post sloppily filtered artworks, please, have more decency than that.
Open smpaint and pour some soles on the empty pixels, if you have to shit out something low quality.

Anyone else think the Saturnine Dread kinda looks like a Proto-Redemptor? The nipple guns, the legs, the general top-heavy shape, it looks closer to the Redemptor than the classic Dread appearance.
Could GW throw in a point that Cawl's "new" dread pattern is just repurposed from what he could find on the Saturnine chassis?

>>95897594
No, it's just creative bankruptcy
The leviathan dreadnoughts already had all these features and then some

>>95897594
still insane to me that GW doesn't want to sell these to 40k players just to give their aids infested bean counters an easier time

>>95897345
What do Noise Marines sound like?

>>95897594
>Anyone else think the Saturnine Dread kinda looks like a Proto-Redemptor? The nipple guns, the legs, the general top-heavy shape
All of this shit existed on the Deredeos and Leviathan dreadnoughts, retard.
Find better material to hate primaris over.

>>95897641
Bad

>>95897638
>still insane to me that GW doesn't want to sell these to 40k players
You can always buy a model and use it in whatever game you want. It is not hard, retard.
It's what other 40k players will be doing and GW knows it.

>>95897632
>>95897643
Well damn, I'm dumb.
>hate primaris
I was just pointing out some stuff, was never meant to bash the Redemptor.

>inversion beamer

>kitbash beamer

What's that one Eldar Seer called where his helmet is almost like the EVA helmet from Halo?

>>95897510
>Dark Eldar females used to look lewder
>Stop doing this
Wasn't there backlash to Helith's model giving her pants and making her face uglier compared to her old model?

>>95897693
looking handsome anon

>>95897693
chudjak looking motherfucker

>>95897709
I just noticed the guy's hair in the reflection. Gross.

>>95897693
Spiritseer.

>>95897693
do you play that piano much, anon?

>>95897703
yeah, the new Lelith model is fuck ugly. Women and their ilk don't fucking play warhammer, we need female elves to go back to being nude bimbos.

>>95897767
>we need female elves to go back to being nude bimbos
I want female eldar in big flowing robes with high-crested helmets and ornate shoulderpads. And also they should have big tits.

>>95897581
ok anon I'll not do that. I'll only post 90's art so you old farts can feel comfortable in your safe space.

>>95897767
This but unironically.

>>95897671
>beaner immersion

>>95897671
>immersion blender

>>95896963
that stance would work if it was organic, instead, from the perspective of this board it ends up coming about because people lose lore arguments.

>X is nulore
>No X has been here since 5th
>well that's well past when the original creators left
>its also in 2e
>well I think it sucks yada yada

I think if this board went through 40k with that lens, front to back, you wouldn't have any fluff all of it would be under invesitgation for violating the sunk cost stances people have

>>95897693
>>95897730
I prefer the bug-man helm from way back in the day, just looks way more alien.

>>95897693
If you mean this one its a conversion.

Holyshit, I went down a rabbithole looking at Eldar seers and LOOK AT THIS PAINTJOB ON THE FACEPLATE! FUCKIN AWESOME!

>>95897856
your post reminds me of something that I almost did. someone posted some alpha legion spreads recently and had some images of AL schemes from 7th/8th. I was going to respond saying how shit their scheme went from, too much green too many scales. At first I thought this was a change that happened in 6th/7th but before I posted I took a look at my 2nd edition chaos codex and the Blanche art of the AL had those same scales there.

>>95897856
>I don't like X
>X has always been
>I still don't like X
And that's fine.
I'm perfectly capable of accepting what official fluff says at any given time, I just choose to ignore the parts I don't care about or think are stupid in exchange for parts I do enjoy or which make sense to me. My armies and models are beholden only to the rules and the idea I have for them.

>>95897856
Very true.
Your example is very applicable to the whole "chaos is shared by all warhammer IPs meaning it is a multiverse". It's been true since the very begining.
However, I still think it's shit none the less and shouldn't exist.

what are these metal cups with hair coming out of them called?

>>95897910
Alpha legion shouldn't be uniform anyway, I've always been a fan of the teal color the sons of the hydra cover uses

>>95897962
Wolf tails?
Talismans?
Not sure if GW has ever given them an official term or whatever.

>>95897949
>>95897961
And both of those stances are fine, but we cannot pretend your preference is "GW ruined Warhammer in Xth"

>>95897961
>"chaos is shared by all warhammer IPs meaning it is a multiverse".
Theres also a fuck ton of multiversal statements even if you don't count fantasy

>>95897969
>but we cannot pretend your preference is "GW ruined Warhammer in Xth"
I am a stubborn piece of shit and I will say that, because it is my god given right.

>>95897910
I'm not a fan that first they changed the purple and green AL into their pre-Heresy colours and then just made 30k AL also blue and silver.

>>95897985
upper left corner implies its an inuniverse record, none the less 30k also says the alpha legion has no one set heraldry

>>95897962
tail plugs

>>95897962
Tail buttplugs.

>>95897969
When have I ever said "GW ruined 40k in Xth edition" or the like? I do admit I quite following the fluff by 5e, because it was getting tiresome and felt like the people didn't care, but I'm also willing to admit even 2e and 3e contained major changes that reorganized the setting. At this point it's not about trying to understand some wider setting, just browsing through different bits and finding parts I think are neat.

>>95897968
>Not sure if GW has ever given them an official term
I'm asking about the name of the real thing, slaanesh models have similar bits but with less fluffy hair.

>>95898024
this is an anonymous image board, The stance that after X edition the 40k is no longer the real or true 40k is a very very common dismissal to any fluff arguments.

>>95897997
>alpha legion has no one set heraldry
Yet they're also always depicted as blue and silver (when not painted as other legions with some blue showing through scratches).

>>95897962
Trophy mount / Trophy tail mount

>>95897693

>>95897895
Look at this guy's paint job for the visor

>>95898033
those are tassels

>>95898034
For sure. Just doesn't make it a good one or anything to do with "I pick my own fluff." I got no problems adopting new fluff, if I find it enjoyable and not clashing with other stuff.

I wish GW wasn’t so obsessed with top knots with a lot of their models.

>>95897895
I remember looking at the results of some community oldhammer painting competition a year or two ago and half the entries were eldar farseers

>>95898071
picking your own fluff is fine, but when we are talking in a general sense like "Would techmarines in the dark imperium still get shipped to mars"

answering with your own headcanon when no one asked isn't valid, we have to at a baseline stick to canon and then say "well canon is kind of silly so maybe most of them would go to forge world lucius"

>>95898078
top knots are a cheat code, you don't understand

it's like capes and horned helmets, you can turn anything into a better design for a model with them

>>95898082
To be honest that fluff about ALL techmarines being trained on mars and ONLY mars is pretty stupid imo.
It makes way more sense if the chapter sends their marines to the closest forgeworld.

>>95898079
Farseers are legitimately one of the coolest series of 40k models to be produced and each one is rad as fuck.

>>95898054
thank you

>>95898095
there aren't that many techmarines in the galaxy for the logistics of centralising their training on mars to be a problem
and spreading the teachings of the mechanicus out of the cult, and to what's a near independent entity out of their control no less, is already a stretch

>>95898089
Top knots on helmets are fine to me, cause they can take it off and look like whatever under. But factions like the Eldar taking their helmets off and a good chunk of them having a top knot looks weird.

>>95898082
>"Would techmarines in the dark imperium still get shipped to mars"
Would they?

>>95897997
>>95898040
I like the one where they use Kabalite Green edge highlights.

>>95898082
>we have to at a baseline stick to canon and then say "well canon is kind of silly so maybe most of them would go to forge world lucius"

>>95898132
why do you think they wear tall helmets? to make their necks easier to break?

>>95898079
I imagine if not Farseers then chances were good it was some colourful Tzeentchian daemon?

>>95898082
>the dark imperium
that's a nothingburger, the imperium does have back and forth with it, marines especially

>>95898127
There's plenty of techmarines and adepts. They crew vehicles, maintain chapter ships, oversee the forges, etc. Sure, there's tons of artificers to take care of more mundane functions, but marines are at the very top overseeing everything. And someone has to train those artificers as well. That multiplied with a thousand chapters spread across the entire galaxy, plus the constant attrition of having to train new ones would put plenty of strain on the logistics of moving all those people back and forth through the now split galaxy.

Do think it makes perfect sense to send your techmarines to Mars whenever possible, but in times of need a select few Forge Worlds should be able to suffice as well. With the blessing of Mars, of course.

>>95898155
Impressive paintjob but kitbash-wise that looks very ass.

>>95898198
I do wish they expanded the hierarchies of techmarines and chaplains to match librarians

give us three distinct ranks

>>95898198
>There's plenty of techmarines and adepts.
not that many, the attrition is not that high either, they're marines, not guardsmen.

>>95898082
My headcannon is that Techmarines get shipped to all kinds of forgeworlds and instead of being always red they paint their armor on the colors of the one they went to. Prestigious chapters get to send their techmarines to ivy league forgeworlds like Mars or Ryza while obscure or not well connected chapters like Marines Malevolent have to send theirs to the Forge World of Imperial Samoa or something.

>>95898155
The army are tiny but it looks tremendous

>>95898198
Oh for fuck sake, is this some new lore where all vehicles have machine spirits now? Used to just be Land Raiders, Knights and Titans (but bizarrely not the IG Superheavy tanks like Baneblade, Shadowsword etc)

>>95895777
Hell yeah brother

>>95898278
Techmarines still take to the battlefield to get killed and new chapters get founded. The amount might not be huge on a galactic scale, but it's across the Imperium. Factor in that the shipment of adepts to Mars can (will) get lost on the way or delayed, you want to keep a reserve of dudes in case of emergency, etc. It's not like, "hey, we need two more techmarines, could you guys pop by the techmarine store on your way?"

>>95898331
>but it's across the Imperium
which you can travel in like 3 months and have constant back and forth of shipments and personnel already

>>95898313
Have you not noticed that since forever almost all SM vehicle crews have cogs on their torso and/or shoulder?

>>95896056
"It's a living"

>>95896310
ratlings, meta?

>>95897345
I like the lore bits that the Noise Marine’s fraternity with each other from their legion days are generally intact and will be bros with other Chaos Marines they like

>>95897352
They wanted uninterrupted Space Marine releases….

>>95896300
How is the "push two conference tables together" working for you? Trying to set up something in my basement

>>95898343
>which you can travel in like 3 months
On a good day, before the galaxy got split in two.
>and have constant back and forth of shipments and personnel already
Manpower and resources tend to be sourced locally to meet demands, rather than raising and shipping a regiment from across the galaxy. A lot of major traffic across the galaxy is along established trade routes between major worlds. Chapter homeworlds can be in fairly isolated locations.

>>95896988
Moby Dick can only be truly appreciated if you understand Neon Genesis Evangelion, and I'm only half joking

>>95897412
Just finish the base and you're all set

>>95898464
mopey dick?

>>95896310
Something similar with GSC, current meta is final day. Which is basically spamming gargoyles and some random nids units that I personally do not like much.
And GW already fuck me over with Nids and IG by randomly removing allied options I used to have. So I'm not dipping again into those armies.

Do you guys think they’ll shy away from 2K point games being the standard? I feel like collecting to smaller points thresholds encourages collecting more armies, and if they replace Combat Patrol’s system with something more like Spearhead, they could sell even more models across 40K’s whole range.

>>95898503
>and if they replace Combat Patrol’s system with something more like Spearhead
From what I saw Spearhead is horrible and allows next to 0 list-building. Hard pass.

>>95896988
I'm getting 'I watched Starship Troopers at face value' vibes from the poster.

>>95898344
That wasn’t of concern to me, I was concerned about all vehicles now having a machine spirit. I couldnt give a shit if they're all piloted by Techpriests, Space Marine numbers have always been jacked up.

I like titans

>>95898360
Here mate, see got the eye base colour? dont use straight white, use an off white like grey seer or wraithbone with a little pure white ink mixed in. Makes them look far less stark and "thousand yard stare".

>>95898488
Tldr there's a running theme throughout the book about things representing other things or taking the form of other things, until their forms and essences become enmeshed and intertwined. Just like Rei's humanity koolaid in EoE

>>95898536
That’s the whole point of Spearhead and Combat Patrol, you buy one box and have a playable list while also acting as a cornerstone for a wider army. In AoS they actually cared about the game mode so it’s rather popular and arguably is overshadowing the main game while Combat Patrol is a bit of a mess.

>>95898464
Explain. Last time I read Moby Dick I was like 10.

>>95898541
>all vehicles now having a machine spirit.
Anon, even a stub gun has a machine spirit. Some machine spirits are just more sophisticated.

>>95898464
>Neon Genesis Evangelion
Ah yes the feel-good mecha anime where sad "woe-is-me" teens pilot biomechanical Freudian nightmares to fight biblical metaphors, all while spiralling into existential breakdowns so the creator can work through his depression in real time. It starts like Gundam and ends like a group therapy session hosted by God, if God were a giant naked clone of your mum. The show teases deep religious symbolism, only to admit it’s just there to look cool, then punishes you for expecting coherent plotlines by replacing the finale with a PowerPoint presentation about why you hate yourself.

That level of understanding, yes?

>>95898599

>>95898577
>rather popular and arguably is overshadowing the main game
Yes and I don't want that because I never thought or would consider to buy an army box, it's either for people looking to splurge or for clueless and aimless people who don't know what they want to start the faction with.

>>95898599
Then Tengan topa gurran lagan and Kill la Kill are supposed to be companion shows somehow.
Oh and in Kill la Kill each character with a high heel has a different shoe click.

>>95898590
No it doesn’t, they make that shit in the underhive out of scrap, theres not secret to it nor is there any computing substrate involved to house a quasi-AI Machine Spirit. If that’s how Games Workshop tries to sell it nowadays they can fuck right off.

>>95898538
>watch director's commentary
>Paul starts talking about US foreign policy
>you can hear the other person roll their eyes and throwing their hands in the air with "here we go again"

>>95898313
Every machine has a machine spirit.
Most the time it's a spiritual thing, and used to talk about any quirks or issues the machine has. Appeasing the machine spirit is just proper maintenance.
Then you have the 'Machine Spirit', machines with cognitor engines, wired-in servitors, rudimentary AI and the like.
Landraiders, Knights, Titans have the AI side of things.
Rhinos and the like, are non-heuristic computers that Techmarines can interface with.
Baneblades do have cognitor also, in fairly certain it's an actual visible piece on the vehicle. It wouldn't be the same as in a Rhino, and especially not the same as a Landraider.

>canis rex is now 380 points
lmao

>>95896970
It's fun and terrible at the same time. People like the Saw movies, which are just people getting tortured or monster movies, where the cast is getting hunted by some unbeatable creature. If it's fantasy, sometimes it's enjoyable to indulge in horrific scenarios. 40k is a cartoonishly terrible world filled with pop fantasy shit like elves put through a Heavy Metal magazine filter.

I would have expected better cinematics from such a popular franchise

>>95898633
It's 450, where are you getting this from?

>>95898653
index update

>>95898623
>If that’s how Games Workshop tries to sell it nowadays
That's how it has always been. "Machine spirit" is whatever makes a thing work. Gun jammed? You didn't appease the machine spirit with enough oil. Blue screen of death? Didn't recite the litany of defragging often enough. You're confusing it with the Power of the Machine Spirit wargear that's just a highly sophisticated intelligence for powering bigger war machines.

>>95898653
>>95898633
>>95898663

I just checked Warcom, it really is 380 points. I think this is awesome, I honestly think that 1 toughness for 70 points is a totally fair trade. It's not even 70 points, because we gained 4 wounds. My Canis Rex Ally is slightly less punishing now!

>>95898673
yeah, idk
the toughness nerfs I was kind of onboard for because knights are just an autowin matchup into some armies
but the points drops are maybe too much on the big knights
canis at 380 is wild because people mostly took him because sir hektor is an OP ability to deny vp

>>95898663
Cool, allied Knights getting even better!

>>95898623
I think you missed the 40 years of lore depicting the mechanicus as tech tards who think you have to spritz everything with 'sacred oil' (WD-40) to get it to work no matter what it is.

Yes, AI and programming is interpreted by these dumbasses as machine spirits. But they believe literally everything has a machine spirit. An engine with no computer parts has one, a gun has one. They say in the fluff all the time "let me appease this ailing machine spirit" when going to work on physical things without electronics.

>>95898684
admech gets a bad rap because of their religious fervor about things, but realistically they aren't any worse than modern day engineers and mechanics it's just the verbiage is loonybin stuff
purity seals are just inspection stickers, except for space marines where they are quite literally oaths of the moment carried over from the old HH days

>>95898693
>but realistically they aren't any worse than modern day engineers and mechanics it's just the verbiage is loonybin stuff
Wrong. The vast majority of admech are literal retards who think you have to appease a ghost to make an engine work. There are decent mechanics in the setting, and most of them are hated by the broader admech for being sacrilegious in how they handle technology. They will literally kill people for knowing the forbidden spell of tapping CTR + ALT + DELETE a bunch of times in quick succession to force a reboot. You are a tertiary who has never actually read a story with admech characters to see how the author's characterize their skills.

>>95898693
>inspection stickers
I prefer to imagine it as duck tape.

>>95898714
>meanwhile, in Admech lore since the beginning...

>>95896963
THIS
40k has some nuance but it's extremely minor and surface level stuff, specifically because the setting is supposed to exist so you put your own little guys and make your own little stories with them, the setting is just a nice thematic blueprint on top. Personally I just dislike 40k's current direction because it's activly walking towards "yuh huh bolter porn imperium good epic hero" capeslop shit instead of "misery porn everyone sucks and everyone is a lunatic in space" shit. If I wanted cool heros beating aliens I would be a 8yo watching Clone Wars, the whole point of 40k is being a different setting filled with crazy off the top people and not just generic stoic cool guy personality marines. It's why inquisition stuff and the imperium's inner workings is some of the best atmosphere this setting has and how Dan Abnett ruined it with his Eisenhorn series. It's also why Guilliman replacing the high lords was the worst thing possible

>>95898753
>it's activly walking towards "yuh huh bolter porn imperium good epic hero" capeslop shit instead of "misery porn everyone sucks and everyone is a lunatic in space" shit.
No it isn't

>>95898730
>the more senior ranks are permitted to experiment
Cawl literally has daily assassination attempts for being an innovator and experimenter who goes against Admech dogma.
>that understanding lies only with a select few - the Admech, and the image of technology can only be compared with witchcraft in medieval times
>WITCHCRAFT IN MEDIEVAL TIMES
>the admech is as much arcane cult as scientific body
>ARCANE CULT
>research and exploration, (you conveniently left out the next part) its ultimate embodiment is the search for ancient STC systems
>the literally just use old shit they find because its shit they can't make themselves
>their knowledge of machine lore is unsurpassed by any other humans
>most humans think machines are literally sentient and will stop working if you are say mean things to them

I could keep going. None of these things say what you think they say. They reinforce the spiritual, non understanding of the broader Admech on every level. In every admech story from Cawl to Rogue Trader, innovators and scientists are shown to be hated and despised and regularly arrested and killed.

In every paragraph you highlighted there is a million other statements right next to them to remind you these guys are retarded priests who follow 15k year old MRCs without understanding what they do but if they follow it right it works.

>>95898792
>that understanding lies only with a select few - the Admech, and the image of technology can only be compared with witchcraft in medieval times
The rest of that passage goes on to say people perceive those who work with tech like witches, not that they're literally practicing witchcraft

>>95898753
>It's also why Guilliman replacing the high lords was the worst thing possible
You didn't read that book. The High Lords still have major influence and forced him to make many concessions, like abolishing his Crusade fleet because it went against the Codex Astartes and the High Lords feared marines gaining too much political power from it.

>>95898792
>15k year old MRCs without understanding what they do but if they follow it right it works
it might surprise you to know that there are very important systems keeping the entire world running that are ran on excel
anyways, lore disagrees with your statement, admech are busy doing mad scientist shit and constantly in a war with necrons/votann/tau over technology shenanigans

>>95898360
Yes, as stand-ins for infantry and other holder units. They hit on 4s, they can move and shoot with harder-hitting guns, and they can move after shooting to even get back into transports if they want. They cost the same as infantry and and just more useful in every way except OC, They also skirmish to deny the opponent's infiltrators.

>>95898845
>hit on 3+ meant to say, it has been a while since I I've rolled dice.

>>95898807
>The rest of that passage goes on to say people perceive those who work with tech like witches, not that they're literally practicing witchcraft

Let me quote the rest of that passage in it's entirety for you.
>Those who come into contact with technology use it with reservations and a reverence that are almost religious

The only way you can attempt to strangle your headcannon out of that is if you are an autist. Which, you know, I'm sympathetic of your mental impairment. Real human beings can accept 40k for the cool 80s pop culture bombastic setting it is. Autistic people make it their personality and have to water everything down to a bunch of reasonable, intelligent people to fit into their orderly black and white thinking worlds. And as an autistic person, you are unable to change your views or incorporate new information that disturbs the order you've created in your mind.

So I accept, that in your inferior brains mind, the admech are great scientists doing great things and inventing new technologies that drive the imperium forward and hope is on the horizon and the good guys will win one day. I accept that in your mind, which is unable to understand context or themes, 40k is a universe filled with good guys and bad guys.

>>95898825
>admech are busy doing mad scientist shit and constantly in a war with necrons/votann/tau over technology shenanigans

None of that is mutually exclusive with being backwards and having rudimentary understanding of the principles behind what they do. Stealing alien technology is a necessity because they can't invent it themselves, outside of radicals who are actively persecuted for their behavior. Which you would know, if you read Cawl's books. Or literally any 40k book in the last 40k years with an admech character.

>>95898792
>WITCHCRAFT IN MEDIEVAL TIMES
Which is what technology is to everyone else, while Admech has the remaining scientific knowledge.
>ARCANE CULT
As much as a scientific body.
>they literally just use old shit they find because its shit they can't make themselves
And when they find a fragment of something, they build everything around it. Land Speeders are based on just the grav plates, everything else was invented by someone else. Land Raiders are based on half of the schematics for a battle tank. Plenty of weapons, vehicles and ships were made along the millennia, either by using fragments of old stuff or combining things in ways never before seen. We do that today. Your smart phone is just a bunch of old technologies rolled into one.

You can piss and shit as much as you want while ignoring everything you don't like, it does not make you right.

>>95898862
>resident gimp out of his cage again

>>95898792
>Cawl
Nu fluff is pretty retarded even by 40k standards

I'm still not on board with the idea of basic bitch shit like stub guns having an actual machine spirit, even if it is just for diagnostic purposes.

>>95898886
I'm not on board with the idea of my fridge needing an internet connection, but here we are.

>>95898875
>>95898730
why would someone be into 40k if they want a setting full of knowledge, understanding and hope for progress. genuinely, even if this was the lore.

>>95898885
I don't know much about cawl because I don't read nulore but isn't he a mary sue who invented all the new primaris tech? if all the admech had mad scientist level of invention skills until literally this century did the Imperium spend 12000 years using the same STC patterns instead of making new stuff?

Like one of the first pieces of lore I ever learned as that combat knives marines have is an STC that was discovered 5000 years ago and before that they just didn't have good knives. If they had that ability to innovate why didn't they just make improvements to the Rhino or knives or whatever? Why did it take them so long to make new stuff?

>>95898913
>If they had that ability to innovate why didn't they just make improvements to the Rhino or knives or whatever? Why did it take them so long to make new stuff?

Because smart admech anon is an autist who has constructed an incorrect world view in his mind and will die before just incorporating new understanding.

>>95898884
uhoh autist melty

This discussion is reminding me of this image, people today cant even understand what electrical engineers and physicists do and yet we expect it to be any different in the 40th Millennium when technology is far far more advanced even after millennia of stagnation?

>>95898886
I always interpreted it as the fact that since sophisticated machines operating on servitors and totally not AI have “machine spirits” that the Admech take it as affirmation that everything must. Part of operating a Titan is taming the machine spirit, would make sense that’d change your perpsective on machines in general.

>black library
>lore accurate
even GW admits black library can't be lore accurate because their writers have been so inconsistent

>>95898913
>>95898923

>>95898929
>Part of operating a Titan is taming the machine spirit,
Thats a whole other part of the lore though. Titans and Knights have like... ghosts or imprints of previous operators that are basically living in a horrible PTSD fever dream sharing circuits with all the other operators. When people strap into them they literally have to mentally overcome all those memories and echoes and maintain their sense of self and not crash out.

Servitors are often not fully servitorized and many of them 'malfunction' because some tiny part of their old selves is still alive and screaming in agony inside. Most 'cogitators' in the imperium incorporate some level of biological integration.

>>95898941
womp womp

>>95898923
Pic would be funnier if it was a Sons of Horus shooting the reporter wearing a Raven Guard suit of power armor

>>95898941
even if it was a samefag answer the question

>>95898963
He will because he is autistic and right now is filled with frustration and mental anguish that his headcannon is being challenged.

>>95898953
My point is, if it’s a demonstrable truth that machines could have spirits, then people might take the religious tech cult saying all machines have spirits seriously, even down to basic stub guns.

>>95898913
At least older fluff implied tech advanced and improved over time.

>>95898953
>Most 'cogitators' in the imperium incorporate some level of biological integration.
Man, the PC....sorry "Cogitator" repair-shop business in the Grimdark future must be properly disgusting. Someone brings their non functional cogitator in and first you have to scoop out rotting organic matter because the dumbass didn’t do the "Ritual of Renewal" every week and the fans on the cooling system got clogged, so the organic components overheated and failed.

>>95898988
>>95898913
But they usually try to re discover STC stuff because it was objectively better than whatever shit they could invent with their current knowledge

>>95898978
it's also monopolizing their expertise, similar to how modern day religions use bullshittery and deflection to explain why only they (and whatever deity they represent) can fix your problems so you need to give all your money and time (in this case, technology) to them
>>95898988
>>95898994
it's always been this way even up to primaris stuff, mk8 power armor would be tech heresy according to some posters itt
and the STCs from the dark age are literally insane, some of that stuff would make even the necrons look backwards

>>95898958
I don’t get it

>>95899004
Istvaan V.

>>95898978
Oh yea, true. I see where you are coming from. Also the admech, even with it's ban on Abominable Intelligence, still uses AI when it can get away with it and will often just label it a "powerful machine spirit". The definition of what is a powerful machine spirit and what is abominable intelligence is quite literally a major theological schism in the Mechanicus.

>>95898989
Yea, definitely. Unrelated, look at this giant 'servitor colony' from Darktide. Think about all the guts you would have to dispose of to make this thing.

>>95898988
I was under the impression that the Admech’s position was “All knowledge exists already, we just need to rediscover it;”
So “innovation” is possible, so long as it comes from finding more advanced STC’s or tech. The Mechanicus game’s premise is going on an expedition to find old tech and having to deal with the Necrons and other bullshit along the way.

>>95899006
Isn’t that where everyone dies

>>95899021
Innovators being despised radicals going against the admech's orthodoxy goes against the autists headcannon anon. Careful.

>>95899021
In the same page as those example it talks about "studies" and how this studies result in improvements of output.
Admech is just doing R&D and putting a purity seal on their new crap just to avoid the bullshit.

>>95898994
>50 kilo-cubit engine.
>Cubit is about 18 inches.
>50 square kilo-cubits = approx 12,500,000 m2
...I guess they use a different measurement for cubits in the future.

>>95899024
Yes.

>>95899015
>Think about all the guts you would have to dispose of to make this thing.
I think you mean prime ingredients for corpse starch production.

>>95899028
GW is REALLY bad with numbers, like comically so
Siege of Vraks had less casualties people over 17 years than we managed to accomplish in WW1 without all the technology and chaos fuckery

>>95899047
To be fair, Vraks was like... a siege of one Cathedral on a dusty dead backwater planet.

>>95899050
And still makes no sense since even a backwater, middle-of-bumfuck-nowhere planet in the Imperium will contain at least 100 billion humans.
Remember, an average hivecity contains anywhere 10 billion to 100 billion humans within.
Siege of vraks casualties being so low is plain retarded.

>>95899074
>And still makes no sense since even a backwater, middle-of-bumfuck-nowhere planet in the Imperium will contain at least 100 billion humans
No it doesn't, there is no set minimum for the population of any given planet. Your numbers are just fanfiction.

>>95899074
vraks had a population of 8 million, the point is that the numbers are all overt the place and don't make sense for a 17 year conflict when we have shown in real life we can kill people way more efficiently than that and we're not in the grimderp future where there is only war and bad vibes

>>95899080
We kind of do have populations numbers for different types of worlds

What the fuck am I looking at?

>>95899102

>>95899103
>172 bucks for some shit my kid can make in school
lmao

>>95899103
They can't be serious at that price surely...

>>95899120
It does look like a joke but also
>Germany
who knows
Looks like it's a set of 4

>>95899120
I mean people pay full price for GW stuff.
A fool always rise up for the occasion

>>95899103
>150 yuroshekels

>>95899102
Do we have population numbers for Eldar Craftworlds?

>>95899123
This is what the thousand sons guy should've bought as his Rhino

>>95898953
>gimp is ESL
Makes even more sense.

>>95899135
"Tens of Millions" even from the 10th Edition Codex that I dont currently have on me or I'd take a picture. Was reading it last night. Eldar really are, comparatively, dying out.

>>95898988
Very much so. Such as how in 2e Heresy era Chaos plasma was dangerous and still experimental while post-Heresy Imperial plasma was safe.

>>95899183
it's still a significant number considering how each and every one of them is a warrior too

>>95899135
Nop, but I do remember that in older codex they mention that beside craftworld, exodites and maiden worlds. Eldar colonize random worlds too.
So the dying out part is not exactly true.

>>95899195
Still, its a pittance even compared to one Imperial Hiveworld or Manufactory System.

>>95899183
>~20mil per Craftworld
>~1000 Craftworlds
>Only 20 billion Eldar in the Galaxy
>Couldn't even populate one fifth of the smallest hive world
How are these guys a super power again?