Thread 95896378

RIP François Marcela-Froideval
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZxUvKTsMow

"This series is dedicated to E. Gary Gygax, the first dreamer, inventor of the role-playing game, without whom the heroic fantasy and science-fiction genre would only be today a minor, almost forgotten genre. To this quiet giant who made millions of players dream.
To my master and friend. May he live forever in the universe he so patiently built.
In loving memory.'"

...who?

>>95896405
not OP but guessing the thread is about François Marcela-Froideval

>>95896429
Never heard of it. Write me a small non-AI thesis on why I should care

>>95896440
trying a little too hard "anon"

>>95896445
>wanting an explanation is "trying too hard"

>>95896405
French man who came up with the first Orential Adventures material (even if he didn't write it) and the French comic series The Black Moon Chronicles.

Which is both the basis for the 3E Chainmail setting and the untitled western lands of Oreik, the setting of Greyhawk.
He did a fiar bit of work on AD&D material. Including creating Modrons.
He inspired Gygax to add the 7th stat Comeliness to Unearthed Arcana.

He basiscally brought RPGs to France and the French-speaking world.

>>95896461
its pretty telling how many tourists use the board these days

>>95896461
he sounds ok, except the "bringing RPGs to the French" part

>>95896469
Someone here is too uncultured and low-test to read Donjon/Dungeon.

>>95896440
how about you do it yourself instead of begging for the attention people have long stopped giving you IRL

>>95896467
>>95896481
calm down, ok?

>>95896378 (OP)
>Gary Gygax, the first dreamer, inventor of the role-playing game, without whom the heroic fantasy and science-fiction genre would only be today a minor, almost forgotten genre
more like the fag that ruined the fantasy genre forever with his shitty kitchen sink.

>>95896516
m8 if you weren't some sadsack begging for attention you would have skimread wikipedia to find out who the fuck this is,m like I did
anyway I'm off to the pub, I hope you find the spiritual fulfilment of playing a game one day; you'll find the faggotry washes straight out of you

>>95896516
I kind of understand where they're coming from though. It's certainly a bit annoying and disheartening to have a memorial thread for a guy influential to TTRPGs only for asshats to come in and be like:
"Lol lmao, who's this? why should I care?"
And I say that as someone who didn't know who he was before I came into this thread.
Not knowing who someone is doesn't make them unimportant or unworthy of acknowledgement. Especially after their passing.

But perhaps that's too much to ask for nowadays.

>>95896534
>>95896536
>people aren't familiar with some fossil that was relevant 40 years ago in some specific country
>said people ask about said fossil
>"OH MY BOARD CULTURE GET OUT TOURIST JUST GOOGLE HIM LIKE WE DID"
why are you so afraid of human interaction?

>>95896461
based

>>95896378 (OP)
RIP in peace.

You beautiful bastard brought Comeliness into OA, immunizing the white male character against the Yellow Fever by the very rules of the universe.

Hope you get to have all the sex with red-headed demonesses or whatever Satanists think they'll get to enjoy in the here after.

>>95896541
I didn't say asking for an explanation was wrong. I simply suggested that being a dick about it was obnoxious in a thread that's attempting to honor someone that died.
I know it's 4chan and expecting decorum was my first mistake but it still feels like a race to the bottom.

95896541
Putting up with you being a disingenuous cunt isn't "human interaction," go concern troll somewhere else.

>>95896565
>>95896570
>being a dick is bad
>except when I do it, then it's righteous anger

>>95896576
I apologize if I came off harshly I suppose the insults were unnecessary.
I only hope you will extend the same courtesy to me and understand where I'm coming from.
Have a good night anon, sincerely.

>>95896591
Ok man, good night. No hard feelings, and I'm sorry.

>>95896378 (OP)
>>95896461
rip

>>95896461
>came up with an idea and didn't even fucking write it
>one of dozens that made some contribution to some rpg back in the day
Wow, it's fucking nothing.

>>95896378 (OP)
>Marcela
Isn't that woman's name?

>>95896763
Camille is a girl's name.

>>95896541
between begging to be spoonfed and whatever the fuck this tantrum is, assuming you're a poor quality shitposter begging for attention is actually the least bad interpretation of your posts

>>95896378 (OP)
Gygax did not invent RPGs, and actually came close to killing gaming thanks to him trying to take the idea Arneson naively brought him and trying to patent it (and thankfully having this fail), followed by numerous eroneous legal battles where he tried to kill any D&D competitors by intimidation via legal fees.

Gygax was a shitty guy, a lukewarm designer, and a complete retard when it came to writing. Everyone who tries to push him into the position of "Father of RPGs" might as well try to call Hitler the Father of Israel. He might have had a role in their creation, but no should celebrate him for it.

>>95897454
calm down bathite and go back to playing your babylonian checkers

>Gygax was a shitty guy, a lukewarm designer, and a complete retard when it came to writing. Everyone who tries to push him into the position of "Father of RPGs" might as well try to call Hitler the Father of Israel.

Based and true

>>95897454
well he did inadvertently help by making adnd so shitty that many people tried so hard to "fix" it giving us the other gaming systems that helped foster gaming like the d100 titles, traveller and fighting fantasy that later evolved to gurps

the zionist jews had been writing essays and proposals imagining the zionist colonial settler project from the mid late 19th century till they eventually managed to get enough backing to kickstart the project after ww2. hitler and nazi germany was just the final nail on the coffin of palestine

>>95897745
>till they eventually managed to get enough backing to kickstart the project after ww2.
Bruv, the settler colonial project got its first injection of chicken blood from the same source as the American Tail movies.

>>95896378 (OP)
RIP I would say he needs a sticky, but /tg/ is a pretty slow board these days, so it's probably not necessary.

>>95896467
>https://desuarchive.org/tg/search/text/Francois%20Marcela%20Froideval/
>Searching for posts that contain ‘Francois Marcela Froideval’. 26 results found.
Your faux-grognard behavior isn't really going to work when we're dealing with someone who is verifiably barely ever talked about on /tg/

>>95896378 (OP)
Never heard of him and I feel bad about not knowing until now.
Sorry man may you Rest In Peace.

>>95896378 (OP)
RIP :'(

>>95896565
This is reddit tier shit. Not just you, but everyone involved in the exchange. Even me, for posting this.

I'm gonna dump pages from the Black Moon Chronicles, because clearly modern /tg/ has no idea how insanely epic that comic book series was

>>95896461
>Which is both the basis for the 3E Chainmail setting and the untitled western lands of Oreik, the setting of Greyhawk
Greyhawk is based on the setting of the Black Moon Chronicles?! I genuinely didn't know that. Damn, makes me want to come back to it.

>>95906714
One of my (many) dreams is to make an army in a smaller scale, 6 or 10mm, inspired by the brotherhood of light.
Microworld were very close to make a 6mm High Elves army, which would have been perfect for that.

>>95906741
No, WotC reused the name Chainmail for a short-lived wargame and setting which was set in the western half of Oerik.
It looks vaguely like FMF’s Black Moon Chronicles with all the names changed.

>>95896475
Probably just new, the old JDR treads were great.

>>95906741
>Greyhawk is based on the setting of the Black Moon Chronicles?!
No ,the Black Moon Chronicles is based on Froideval's D&D campaign, which was set in the undeveloped western half of Oerik. Originally his and Gygax's intention had been that he would publish material for Western Oerik, but due to Gygax losing control of TSR this didn't happen. I have to guess the high-level overview material of the geography was left in a drawer or some shit because it was then reused for the 3E-era Chainmail minis game even though nothing about it but the actual map features was the same as Black Moon.

>>95917059
Chainmail 3E was set after a major divinity-shattering apocalypse. Which caps off a similar arc in BMC.
Obviously things are different.