Thread 95899160

I'm a noob in /tg/ but I find it very cool and interesting. Recently I start looking some franchise to learn how to start in this hobby and I found this.

Is it good?
How different is from D&D?
Why people say D&D died after the 2nd edition (others say 5th)?
Where are the white humans in Daggerheart?

3/10, not creative enough

>>95899160 (OP)
Faggerheart

>>95899160 (OP)
>Why people say D&D died after the 2nd edition
Name 20

I have a story about this game.
Every fucking campaign that my GM runs inevitably at some point involves running into an NPC named "Teehee Maccaroni," who the GM affectionately describes as "an epic level sorcerer who's also a retarded nudist gnome."

Teehee Maccaroni wander the countryside with a unique Rod of Wonders powered by "retard magic" shoved up his anus, and he casts the Rod of Wonders by diddling his penis. He says nothing but his own name in different inflections and the phrase "I like-a the goodberry, gimme gimme the goodberry." The GM thinks it's hilarious to have this character show up during the middle of encounters we're struggling at and start jerking off magic everywhere.

But the worst part is his chant. He wanders around chanting his name, so when he's about to show up the GM will start low;

Tee-hee-hee. Maccaroni Maccaroni

Tee-hee-hee. Maccaroni Maccaroni

And then get louder and louder until he's fucking shouting

TEE HEE HEE, MACCARONI MACCARONI!

TEE HEE HEE, MACCARONI MACCARONI!

And the table loves it! The other guys I play with think this is the best shitl Teehee Maccaroni has been our table's de-facto inside joke, our signature "running gag" for six years now. When that chant starts up, everyone else joins in like a ritual; the whole table is expected to start chanting "TEE HEE HEE, MACCARONI MACCARONI" by the end, and every fucking time I refuse because this is some embarrassing circa-2002 Penguin of Doom shit, it's always the same thing; "There goes Anon again! No fun allowed around Anon! Anon's just a big grouch who's getting angry because we're making him touch Teehee Maccaroni's penis again! Why won't you just let us have fun with this character, he's just here for dumb fun, you stick-in-the mud!"

These motherfuckers are all over 25 years old.

Teehee Maccaroni is going to be the death of me.

>>95899160 (OP)
>Is it good?
Too soon to tell, the only discussion so far is just hype and/or seething
>How different is from D&D?
No idea
>Why people say D&D died after the 2nd edition (others say 5th)?
Autism
>Where are the white humans in Daggerheart?
Theres one on the cover

>>95899160 (OP)
>Where are the white humans in Daggerheart?
There are none. White people are highly triggering to the standard ttrpg player and so we got rid of them.

>>95899236
Teehee Maccaroni, what a guy!

>>95899246
>Theres one on the cover
I thought it was a dwarf.

>>95899301
90% of TTRPG players are white, anon.

>>95899236
Rumor has it that guy who made this pasta was murdered. The only lead the police have is the word Teehee written in blood.

>>95899160 (OP)
It's some youtuber's grift. There's no reason a noob would be interested in it unless they were his fan, in which case they'd already know about it.

I'm not betraying D&D for some shitty woke Hollywood plant's game.

I think if someone tried to get me to play this abortion of a game I stare at them disgusted and ask if they were serious, then walk out of their house, laughing all the way to my car.

>>95899160 (OP)
>Is it good?
The official character sheet has a "pronoun" fillable box next to "name".
Depending of the mental capacity you have, you'll determine this is "good" or "bad", but disregarding that, it tells you all you need to know about the type of players this game is aimed to.

>>95899160 (OP)
>Where are the white humans in Daggerheart?
besides all the racebaiting, you know it's a game of make believe, right?
you just come up with whatever, who gives a shit about the art? if the game has humans and I know what sorts of humans are out there, I just make one that fits my taste.
stop being so dramatic or join the fake outrage over something that is no problem.
nobody is stopping you from an all-whites setting. plus, if you don't mention complexion, most people will just assume whatever. never have I ever asked the dm what kind of skin color an npc has

>>95899645
Would you accept your character being raped in the ass every time you roll a 1? Possibly also a walking debuff later if the cock was too big

>>95899664
I would not, but that's because I run and play in games for normal people.

I'm just tired of the fake crybaby outrage from triggered /pol/lards

>>95899738
>fake crybaby outrage
What is fake about hating Critical Fail?

>>95899859
>1/10 bait

>>95899899
>every opinion other than mine is bait
Grow up kid.

>>95899160 (OP)
>Is it good?
No
>How different is from D&D?
It's not
>Why people say D&D died after the 2nd edition (others say 5th)?
Irrelevant
>Where are the white humans in Daggerheart?
Who fucking cares. It's not worth your time. Stop making these fucking threads.

>>95899236
Grinch spotted. Out of Whoville with you, vile creature.

>>95899645
>yes Matt, my campaign setting I mean frame is dominated by white people with the token elves as concubines and dwarves as allies

>>95899160 (OP)
I highly recommend that you take the nearest sharp instrument and shove it deep into your head
>>95902247
Embarrassing newfag

Chris Perkins fucked up D&D and moved over here to work on its "alternative".
RPGs were probably always the doorway to troondom, honestly. Jack Chick, we're sorry, please forgive us.

>>95903413
The real Blackleaf was inside of us all along.

>>95899645
Didn't you guys start this all by WHINING it had too many white men to the point the only white men allow are gay men or the villains?

>>95903730
Why did you say "bad guy" twice?

>>95899160 (OP)
criticalheart

>>95899160 (OP)
Embrace Wheelchair powergaming.
Thats the highlught if the system, it had a player veto to losimg the indestructible murder chair.

>>95899160 (OP)
It's just Critical Role trying to make their own D&D so they can make more money, however like their last one. The people who watch their shows don't really play the games and the people who play tabletop don't really like how it plays. It has some good ideas they have taken from other systems however as a whole it clearly trying to be gay/woke D&D. With the card system they have for skills and abilities I see people making their own over buying their own. Maybe buying custom made cards over official made stuff. However, outside of dice. Basic bitch players don't buy much compare towards DM and more hardcore players.So I think this will be like all those other woke DND replacements. It will be pushed by the woke but won't sell and fade like their last system.

>>95899160 (OP)
some viral campaign here, huh?
do not care enough to troll you more

>>95899645
>you know it's a game of make believe, right?
There's no lore or what? How is its world-building?

>>95900448
>>How different is from D&D?
>It's not
Then, what is the appeal to buy it?

>>95903821
>it clearly trying to be gay/woke D&D.
But D&D is already lame, gay and woke.

>>95904481
there are some "campaign frames" in the book, but the core rules book is exactly that, not a setting or world description. just like the 5e (2014) core books don't have "a setting".

>>95904497
only if you make it so. seems more like a you problem then. the dm makes the game, wizards provides the mechanics. I don't give a shit if there is latino orc art in the phb, if they don't exist in my setting or if I don't want to play a character like that, I don't.
did you know that you can just ignore the parts you don't like?

>>95904491
There isn't one.

@95905354
seething wotc shills

jesus how fucking desperate can you be lol

4chan hasn't even been relevant for at least 15 years, why the fuck are you paying people to post here?

>>95899160 (OP)
Buy an ad
>by and ad

>>95904497
Insufficiently so, according to people who don't play games.

>>95899236
That's awful anon.
I'm sorry Matt Mercer did that to you and your group

Critical Role and Stranger Things have been disastrous for pen-and-paper as a hobby.

faggershart lol

I think it lookd based, Mercer is a closet right winger so I wouldn't worry about a few token artworks

Anybody got an upload of the PDF?

>>95899236
>These motherfuckers are all over 25 years old.
These guys would be reaching their fucking 40 by now, do you think they still perform the chant?

>>95899645

>2013
>Guh! There’s too many white men in this hobby, get a life and allow some diversity!

>2025
>Shut the fuck up about wanting white men! Ugh! This is make-believe, just make it up!

>>95903730
Now now, white men are also allowed to be blubbering oafs or old boomer father-figures.

>>95904794
Then why did we spend the last 15 years bitching about white men in a game of make-believe? This argument you’re making is downright Israeli.
>I control the industry and I control the narrative, which is why any attempt to challenge the way things are done is met with, “just ignore it.”
No, you didn’t ignore it when everything was straight and white, why should we? If you want me to look at this post from an even further angle, you’re the dominant culture feeling threatened by counter-culture clawing at what you’ve built up. Just like you were the counter-culture during the era of Michael Bay and Paris Hilton.

>>95921206
>>95921274
I think my argument went right over your heads.
I don't feel threatened by diversity. I think it's fine if they have art of diverse races or "species" in the books. If I don't think something fits my setting, I don't put it in or I make shit up that they didn't come up with.

point is - the art is there to inspire, to give you a feel or ideas; it isn't there to force you to use it as a reference. You do you, think outside the box as much as you want.

In the end, how you use RAW and the discriptions is up to you(the dm) and what the player wants to do. If my player wants to be FAGGONIGGER 3000 and I don't see why this goes absolutely against my setting (and even if it does, I try to work out why FAGGONIGGER 3000 came to be when he shouldn't have), I let him.

>>95899664
Fear and Hunger but tabletop

Ah, the false-false flag "lancer" strategy.

>>95921522
>the art is there to inspire, to give you a feel or ideas; it isn't there to force you to use it as a reference. You do you, think outside the box as much as you want.
Yeah then why did we *need* to get rid of all the white guys and only keep them around as villains, and why are you only bitching when people are finally fighting back?

>Heh, I can say faggot too, but don’t you think anyone going against the corporate status quo are kinda chuddy? Just do your own thing! Ignore the product’s packaging and enjoy the product!

>>95922041
>fighting back

Do tell, how are you doing that? When's your new game coming out, anon?

>>95922094
>When's your new game coming out, anon?
Four weeks, give or take. I'm coordinating with friends to make sure we're not competing with each other, but one's set to open this week while another's finishing up in 2-3. I'm feeling pretty damn good about it, too.

>>95922257
Running a campaign for your mates doesn't really constitute "fighting back". Nor does bitching about wheelchairs and shit games nobody plays. Publish something, idk, it can't be that hard to outperform most of the dogshit games coming out.

>>95922357
Of course it does, it reminds people what games could be.

>>95922669
your game sounds like shit (he never posted anything about it so it doesn't remind us of anything)

>>95922041
my dude, my guy, here's a revolutionary idea for you:
just do what you want in your game and don't get triggered like a little bitch. grow the fuck up

>>95899160 (OP)
>Is it good?
Yes.
>How different is from D&D?
It's medieval fantasy. Some of the classes have the same names and flavor as D&D classes. That's about the extent of the similarities. They are mechanically pretty different.
>Why people say D&D died after 2nd edition (others say 5th)?
The game changed. People are averse to new things.
>Where are the white humans in Daggerheart?
There's plenty in the art of the book if you look through it. One of my favorite pieces of art is of a (white) human warrior dual wielding blades about to throw down with a cyclops on page 109.

>>95899160 (OP)
If you are knew and have friends willing to play I strongly urge learning something that isn't D&D 5e or 5.5. it's like a black hole of terrible design and math that is popular because it's the only thing the base majority of people who play it have ever played because of D&D is world famous several times over. I suggest playing a D&D edition anywhere from OD&D to AD&D 2e. If your IQ is over 100 and witt the power google you'll figure out how to play it easily. If you are open to playing a non D&D game then I particularly like the Dragonbane by Free League which has excellent rules and GM support. The Starter Set is a steal for the amount of stuff it gives you. I'm also a HUGE fan of d100 games. Though you'd have to snag some generic setting less version like BRP to use and just spin your own world out of it.

>>95924969
>dragonbane
lol

serious answer, i feel like the closest edition to 5e/5,5e is 2e, so that's a pretty fair assumption. older than that you get into a completely different style of game (lies)

>>95924969
>d100 games

This is barely relevant to the topic at this point, but I would add that I think the ready-made settings for BRP are pretty good, imo. Runequest (although Mythras is better), Cthulhu and Pendragon are all really decent games. I've also been seeing Viking Age around, and it has me quite curious.

>what's daggerheart
D&D's least successful gay clone

I wrote a homebrew campaign frame for Daggerheart: Divine Heroes of Modern-Day Earth, heavily inspired by Godbound.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vw4-EKpOZJ9rIxjGvy_h7yCY4pEao-gBY-3rLMdkvzE/edit

>>95925777
>willing engaging with such cancerous material
You are the death of the hobby.

>>95925777
The anime superhero/god shit isn’t really for me. But I think this is a good start! I’d maybe cut back on the prewritten story beats that start to unfold at level 5. It’s ok to have implicated narrative in a frame but you shouldn’t have a pre-planned route to godhood that the players will take. One of the core principles of the game is that you play to figure out what happens.

>>95925777
No one fucking cares, retard.

>>95903819
>wheelchair powergaming
Please don't tell me they implemented the "immune to difficult terrain, immune to prone, can hover, controlled mentally, impossible to remove from, impossible to break, counts as a mount" wheelchair that someone made a few years back.

>>95924615
>Yes.
How, why? Because mechanics? Lore? Both?

>The game changed. People are averse to new things.
What were those changes?

>>95928804

The Godbound tabletop RPG is the primary inspiration here, yes.

I think that the story beats I have laid down are very vague, and merely lists of suggestions. Plus, the sample tier progression is explicitly said to be an example.

Still, I will figure out a way to better emphasize that these are merely examples. Thank you for your input.

>>95928804
>>95929614

Okay. I have made some adjustments, including a new sidebar in this section:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vw4-EKpOZJ9rIxjGvy_h7yCY4pEao-gBY-3rLMdkvzE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.5zczysy22wip

I was mostly following the Colossus of the Drylands campaign frame in the core rulebook, which does, actually, have a somewhat hard-coded narrative integrated into it.

The Hope/Fear dice metacurrency is neat.

>>95899160 (OP)
>Is it good?
no, it's terrible
literally the worst system I've ever read through
>How different is from D&D?
it's 2x as complex [purely for the complexity itself] and 10x faggier

>>95925777
>>95929614
>>95929663
transgender posts.

>>95899160 (OP)
>Why people say D&D died after the 2nd edition (others say 5th)?
the philosophy of the system changed from a huge expanded in-house game, to one that was licensed out to everyone as some kind of one size fits all. if it died with 5e it's because lots of people got their start there and moved onto a different system, and recently the new edition bombed and lead designers let go.

>>95899336
>90% of TTRPG players are white, anon.
The notion of "white guilt" is indicative that this is not necessarily an obstacle

>>95899160 (OP)
>Where are the white humans in Daggerheart?

>>95932539
Notice how he takes up the least amount of space on the cover? And how there aren't any more in the book itself?
It's where they see white men, in the background, unwanted and ignored in the hobby.

>>95929663
So with the whole Aegis/Veil/whatever aspects to this, I kind of wonder why even have it take place on Earth. Like, if there’s not going to be any sort of human enemy, and PC’s can just go incognito and not interact with humanity, then why not just have it be an isekai? Feels like a lot of potential plot lines are stifled by making half of the characters invincible to the other half.

>>95932557
Notice how you’re a colossal retard that is obsessed with culture war brain rot? There’s more white men in the book. Chill out and play games.

>>95932557
>says it takes up the least amount of space while literally taking up more space than multiple other characters
Why is it always vacuous idiots who are so confident?

>>95931131
Confirmed for not actually reading the book

>>95921947
>He doesn't know about FATAL
Newgens istg

>>95932806
IS THAT A NIGGAGOBLIN WITH AN AFRO DUDE THAT'S HILARIOUS
Bet she would speak like a 70's sassy hoe.

>>95932557
>Notice how he takes up the least amount of space on the cover?
no

>>95920849
Oh much more than that anon
There's for sure a gagglefuck of Tee H. MACARONIs walking around college campuses and joining the local TGS by now all across the US spreading the tradition far and wide.

Everything about Daggerheart screams slop. It's like what AI would barf up if you asked for a more modern, more DEI take on D&D.

That being said, I would love to hear about people's experiences actually playing it.

>>95932806
>Noticed the party in the background
I think we found the price for a strong tall white man in modern art. For every one you include in a scene, you need two obese black women.

>>95934603
I'll never forgive yanks for colonizing elves and dwarves with their obsessions.

>>95934673
>I'll never forgive yanks for colonizing elves and dwarves with their obsessions.
As an American, I would like to offer nothing less than my sincerest apology. The Golem destroys everything.

>>95925587
Really? I haven't heard anything about Tales of the Valiant since it came out.

>>95932806

>I kind of wonder why even have it take place on Earth.

I am mostly inspired by Godbound in this regard. Regular humans are simply speedbumps, for the most part, unless they somehow pick up enhancements that allow them to fight on an otherworldly level. That is the sort of gimmick I am interested in.

>>95925777
Wait, 2hu is actually creating something instead of just criticizing? That's awesome dude, congratz. I mean critique is all well and good, but that big brain of yours has a lot of potential for making cool shit.

>>95937251
But it is for Daggerheart.
Which is garbage.

>>95899580
>I'm not betraying D&D
is this bait? people don't actually think like this right?

>>95937413
What do you think?

>>95937413
Only theater kids like Matt Mercer's shitty roleplaying game.

>>95937413
Some people are, in fact, soulless.

>>95937516
Explain to me why you like this blight on the hobby.

>>95937525
Liking what?
>I'm not betraying D&D
I'm calling you a soulless "person" for developing brand loyalty like a corporate slave.

>>95932806
Was having trouble figuring out the scale in this pic and decided that the guy on the left is human and the guy on the right is a giant.
So don't worry lads, white male humans are still cringing weaklings in clear opposition to the far superior Diverse Party chads.

>>95937795
Great detective work, Anon. The person with the axe is in fact a giant. If I hadn’t cropped it so shittily you’d see that he’s a cyclops. And this proves that the artist hates white male humans because… because… because!

>>95937795
>>95940117
>The two white men fight to the death while their fat black companions hoot and holler along.

>>95937795
That anatomy is fucking horrendous.

>>95899160 (OP)
>Is it good?
it's mediocre
>How different is from D&D?
It's D&D combined with Magic: The Gathering.
It also steals from other systems and has a complicated hope/fear resolution mechanic.
>Why people say D&D died after the 2nd edition )?
It's when TSR, the company that created D&D, died. D&D was later bought by Wizards of the Coast, the creators of Magic: The Gathering.

>>95940228
This has been in development for years, current gen models would have no problem with it.

Does this system also have obsessive explanations and reminders about how NOT to play it? You know, like it was in Candela Obscura.

>>95940406
I wasn't implying it was AI. I was saying the artist fucking sucks. They rushed to learn the generic concept artist digital painting style without studying any basic anatomy and perspective.

https://www.daggerheart.com/thevoid/

In addition to the brawler (v1.4) and the warlock (v1.4), Daggerheart now has witch and assassin classes in playtest.

>>95944892

Six new ancestries and six new communities, too, it looks like. Freeborne seems rather useful to me, since it turns a roll with Fear into a roll with Hope 1/session.

>>95944892
>>95945013
Touhoufag? Is that you?

>>95899645
This discussion wouldn't be happening if racebaiting and troonbaiting wasn't part of the games deliberate stylistic choices. Authors are the ones who decided to put focus on that, not anons.
This, of course, has nothing to do with games mechanical or setting merits. IF it had merits worth discussing. It's a clunky dnd-like / storyshitter hybrid with no compelling setting or built-in theme. I can't imagine a game that it would be well suited for, not even for theatre kid improv circlejerk.

>>95943082
God I hate drawing

I have played and run PbtA before. Daggerheart is a bit more codified.

As far as I can tell, in Daggerheart combat, the GM can elect to gain the spotlight when "someone fails a roll or rolls with Fear" (core rulebook, p. 100). In the example in the core rulebook, p. 95, on a failure with Fear, a failure with Hope, or a success with Fear, an enemy seemingly takes the spotlight and does something: highest-impact on a failure with Fear and lowest-impact on a success with Fear, but still something. This is corroborated by the core rulebook, p. 150, and by the SRD, pp. 63-64, which clarify that the GM might have an adversary attack on a success with Fear or a failure with Hope.

This is complicated by the core rulebook, p. 151, and the SRD, p. 64, suggesting that a soft move (PbtA parlance, essentially) be used on a failure with Hope and a hard move be used on any roll with Fear. An enemy taking the spotlight and acting seems like a hard move. And yet, failing a roll with Hope still allows the GM to claim the spotlight (core rulebook, p. 100); the example in the core rulebook, p. 95, shows an enemy outright attacking a PC on a failure with Hope; and one of the suggestions in the core rulebook, p. 150, and the SRD, p. 64, is an adversary attacking on a failure with Hope.

In any event, each roll proactively made by the PCs in combat will, more likely than not (i.e. any outcome other than a success with Hope or a critical success), provoke some sort of retaliation from the GM. The core rulebook, p. 108, and the SRD, p. 35, instruct players to "Embrace danger," but does that necessarily mean always trying to attack in combat? Regardless of whether or not the party is using the Spotlight Tracker optional sidebar in the core rulebook, p. 89, and the SRD, p. 36, is it possible for a player to simply declare "I am fine with just hanging back and trying to create an opening for our [rogue/warrior] to attack"? Is trying to emulate a 4e warlord fine, or is that against the game?

>>95949370

If the GM wants to say, "that will be Help an Ally or a Tag Team Roll," then sure. Can I stick to doing that, instead of risking a roll? I presumably have some Hope stockpiled from miscellaneous benefits, or from noncombat rolls. Better for the rogue or warrior to be the one doing the attacking, as opposed to, say, my bard, right?

I am struggling with this, because the principle of "Embrace danger" is seemingly at odds with what the mechanics actually encourage: being risk-averse and trying to be judicious with rolls.

>>95911240
>Critical Role and Stranger Things have been disastrous for pen-and-paper as a hobby.
Not sure whether this is the case, I am certain they have also brought new decent players to the tables, and the pic related crowd seems to stick to its hellish gatherings. I am personally yet to meet a CR player, but then again, I am from Europe. I've had to deal with a communist activist, though. The cunt broke up the entire campaign, luckily it wasn't deep into the story.

I will quote what a contact of mine has spoken on the subject:

>The design of the game seems to clash with itself, like it's not sure what it wants to be.

>On the one hand, the game wants to have crunchy classes, with specific features and domains being able to do precisely what they say - a specific status, a specific amount of damage, in a specific area.

>On the other, many of the mechanics of the game, even in combat, rely almost entirely on GM fiat.

>I feel like this tension hurts both sides of the game:

>The fiction-first side is hampered by the crunch, because it would feel unfair to grant certain effects when certain abilities grant those effects, especially if they have a resource cost (and there's also the opportunity cost of picking that class and that ability).

>The tactical-combat side is somewhat neutered because choosing the correct abilities and strategizing well is less rewarding when the combat scene and potentially even your abilities are inherently unpredictable, or potentially devalued, based on the GM's calls.

>>95950070
>That picture
Yet you ask for a single large-breasted woman pining for a handsome white man and they fall into hysterics.

>>95950103
Critical role is garbage, we all know this.
No surprise that their own trpg is shit.

>>95950617
While I haven't watched the campaigns themselves, bar the absolute gay shit, the cartoon Vox Machina is not all that different than most of what most of us experience in TTRPGs. It just appears to be played way over the top, understandably why. But the gist of it is quite normal, as far as plot and characters go.

>>95952340
>While I haven't watched the campaigns themselves
Then you don't have an opinion.

>>95952516
>Then you don't have an opinion.
I gave my opinion only on the presented content as a substance, should I watch something specific from it to get an idea on the turbo garbage part?

>>95943082
Perspective looks fine to me. Giants are supposed to look like that.

>>95944892
>https://www.daggerheart.com/thevoid/
Already trying to milk more money for this DOA ttrpg. Sickening.

CR system

>>95899301

Most of the main "NPC Archetypal" characters like what Pathfinder and D&D use are White humans.

>>95954281
You know you CAN do something about it. People's addresses are public info. You can LITERALLY either remove the problem yourself or threaten and scare them into changing.

But you're likely too lazy to do that. That's why all this stuff happens these days is because everyone is too afraid to travel five minutes outside of their home and force these changes to never happen.

>>95961798
Post face, tubby

>>95899160 (OP)
Let me get this straight.
In a post-Shadowdark world, Critical Role of all people, make a game and it's MORE complicated than 5E?!

What were they thinking? Can they not read the room? With so many people involved, surely someone should have said something.
I guess it's like Star Wars/Marvel where they thought their fans will buy whatever they put out so it doesn't matter.

>Make Colossi an Allegory for Personal Woe
>The colossi are destructive beings formed from aspects of Kudamat’s soul and the environment they inhabit—but they can also serve as allegories for the PCs’ personal journeys. When you can, use these behemoths to address the themes of the campaign, informed by the PCs’ choices and their backstories. In your session zero, make note of themes or struggles the players want to highlight in their characters’ backstories… then make them gigantic.

>For example, if one of the characters has a past with a corrupt small-town sheriff with too much influence and a finger in everyone’s business, you could utilize Zuudra, the Many Arms of Calamity (see the upcoming “The Children of Godfell” section) as a metaphor to represent the sheriff’s destructive overreach and the inescapable grip he holds on the outpost.

>Zuudra, the Many Arms of Calamity: This cephalopod has eight writhing limbs that rapidly shift between hardened stone spikes and rivers of flowing magma.

One theme I will never quite understand is "This monster is, in fact, a masterfully artistic allegory for personal tragedy, allowing the heroes to overcome their past traumas."

I do not know about you, but when I see a kaiju-sized octopus of obsidian and magma, I do not exactly think "Now that is a cunning metaphor for destructive overreach of authority!"

What exactly am I missing here?

>>95962764
anon, it sold out..

>>95961798
I didn’t know Langley was hit this hard by cutting USAID, glow-posting used to have nuance.

>>95963438
So do a lot of things that end up flopping. Not a good metric for success.

>Ikeri, Injuries Untold
>Ikeri Leg
>ATK: +2 | Stomp: Very Close | 1d6+3 phy

>Archer Guard
>ATK: +1 | Longbow: Far | 1d8+3 phy

In Daggerheart, getting stomped by a 95-foot-tall colossus hurts less than getting shot by a random guard's longbow.

Abstractions sure are curious.

>Ikeri, Injuries Untold
>Size: 95 ft. tall, 60 ft. wide

>Ikeri Leg
>ATK: +2 | Stomp: Very Close | 1d6+3 phy

>Archer Guard
>ATK: +1 | Longbow: Far | 1d8+3 phy

In Daggerheart, getting stomped by a 95-foot-tall colossus hurts less than getting shot by a random guard's longbow.

Abstractions sure are curious.

When I was running Daggerheart's quickstart, The Sablewood Messengers, the players elected to nonlethally incapacitate the Thistlefolk bandits (three ribbets, judging from the illustration, and one of indeterminate ancestry). This did not surprise me in any way; I knew each of the players tendencies, and I knew that they would instinctively opt to spare, particularly since I was depicting the Thistlefolk in a cutesy manner.

The PCs debated the merit of sparing the Thistlefolk, insomuch as the latter had clearly murdered a merchant in cold blood just to erect a ~1% more effective ambush. Eventually, they settled on tying the Thistlefolk to the carriage and dragging them towards Hush, full speed ahead, pulling them across roots and brambles.

The players and their PCs expressed interest in turning over the Thistlefolk to authority figures. I consulted the Sablewood document ( https://www.daggerheart.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Sablewood-05-20-25.pdf ) and saw that the Sable Sinecure "merchant's guild effectively runs the Sablewood." I figured that the guild would have a branch office in Hush. I informed the group that they could take the Thistlefolk to a local Sable Sinecure merchant representative, who would almost certainly execute the bandits to send a message against anyone who would disrupt trade in the forest.

The group did so. The representative came out, twirling a six-shooter imported from the Drylands. We played out a public execution scene in the middle of the Firstmoss Festival, in which the representative used the Thistlefolk as target practice. The locals cheered, due to the very poor reputation of the Thistlefolk in the Sablewood (as per the document). The Sable Sinecure guild representative took the fruits, the vegetables, and the corpse loaded from the scene of the crime, verbally thanked the PCs for helping clean up the woodland, and walked away without giving a tangible reward.

The group was roughly fine with this.

That is my anecdote.

>>95967713

If the Sable Sinecure "merchant's guild effectively runs the Sablewood," and an entire community has been demonized into good-for-nothing criminals (because some of them have been driven to banditry out of desperation), then the Sablewood is a low-key cyberpunk setting in a sylvan, cottagecore skin.

>>95967744

>If the Sable Sinecure "merchant's guild effectively runs the Sablewood," and an entire community has been demonized into good-for-nothing criminals (because some of them have been driven to banditry out of desperation), then the Sablewood is a low-key cyberpunk setting in a sylvan, cottagecore skin.

And you know, their headquarters is a corporate tower, so to speak. This image is from the Sablewood document: https://www.daggerheart.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Sablewood-05-20-25.pdf

>>95963376
I like the setting of this but the Colossi don't really interest me. I just want to play fantasy Wild West Cowboys. I don't know if people would want to play this without the giant aberrations wandering the badlands.

As per the other thread, it has been pointed out to me that Daggerheart druids are rather strong. Right at level 1, druids have access to six different Beastforms, one of which is Pack Predator for an extra 2 Strength (i.e. possible Strength of +4 at level 1) and advantage on all attacks; it is rather hard for a druid in Pack Predator to miss. Pack Predator can also create Vulnerability on enemies for a Stress, and can deal extra damage when following up on allies' attacks.

More tiers offer more forms, and tier 3 is particularly notable for Legendary Beast and Hybrid Beast, which can supercharge the raw statistics of Pack Predator. Also at tier 3, a druid can multiclass and pick up Bare Bones or Body Basher from the Valor domain, allowing them to further leverage their increased Strength.

The main downside here is that, before multiclassing at tier 3, most Arcana and Sage cards are spells, and are thus barred off in Beastform. This can be mitigated by picking the rare few non-spells (e.g. Gifted Tracker, Nature's Tongue), and by using spells for noncombat utility, for pre-battle preparations, and for post-battle resource management.

>>95968336

I suppose you could simply run a similar setting, albeit without the colossi.

>>95969175

The Darrington Press Discord server has told me:
>Druid is overtuned imo.
>Derik (Knights of Last Call) suggested to use the same rule from other transformation abilities, at least for the combat forms (If you take severe damage or the scene ends, the beast form drops).
>There are many other/additional proposed changes to rein them in a bit, without making them useless.

>>95969310

And yes, as has been pointed out, if you are willing to wait for tier 3, you can be a guardian, a warrior, or even a seraph who simply multiclasses into druid and picks up Beastform and all of its benefits (including tier 3+ shapes) that way. That is probably even better.

>>95899172
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