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Thread Questions:
1. Do you own any unusually large / heavy board games (such as OGRE Designer Edition, 2ManyBones Big Box, etc)?
2. If so, do you ever take them to 'game days' at other locations or just play it at your place?
3. What is the smallest game you own that sees regular play?
>>95900593 (OP)>Do you own any unusually large / heavy board games (such as OGRE Designer Edition, 2ManyBones Big Box, etc)?Ti is probably the biggest one I own. Xboxhueg boxes are more the domain of crowdfunding trash tbqh
>2. If so, do you ever take them to 'game days' at other locations or just play it at your place?The latter, and I wouldn't want to carry them around. Honestly the biggest reason we play El grande so infrequently despite loving it, a friend just doesn't want to carry around the fucking box.
>3. What is the smallest game you own that sees regular playPort royal I suppose. Maybe I can change it to tichu
>>95900593 (OP)>1. Do you own any unusually large / heavy board games (such as OGRE Designer Edition, 2ManyBones Big Box, etc)?Kemet B&S is the biggest box in my collection.
>2. If so, do you ever take them to 'game days' at other locations or just play it at your place?Nah, I almost exclusively play at my place anyway.
>3. What is the smallest game you own that sees regular play?Razzia, small box Ra
>so you've got your main board
ok
>your personal player boards
ok
>and here's your point track board, your advancements board, your card market board, your skirmish board, your charcuterie board, your quest board, your mercenary board, your minigame board, and your 2x4 board
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>TQ1-2
No, I dont think so, the biggest game I had was Barrage (I sold it last week) and I'm assuming even that isn't "unusually large / heavy" enough. Now the biggest game boxes I have are El Grande and Archipelago, which isn't much to say
>TQ3
Probably Lost Cities, I still haven't gotten around to actually play Aegean Sea
posting my shelf cause I forgot to do so last thread (still trying to sell some of the games, and get others)
>>95900593 (OP)Too Many Bones Trove Chest
Isofarian Guard
The Elder Scrolls
In terms of footprint I have two games that are too big for my table. Isofarian Guard and Mage Knight, both because they are very poorly optimized from a component layout perspective.
Table is 5'x3'
>>95900593 (OP)TQ
>1. Cryptic Explorers is the standard size box but unusually heavy. I've got a few boxes of Heroscape stuff, which sadly I've never played. I'm more into small box stuff than big to be honest. If there's box after box of stuff it's probably a grift, or would've been better as a video game.>2. No.>3. Pic related, 16-way tie.
>>95900879>Huge boxes are from crowdfunding trashSome games just keep getting content. God help you if you ever try to play a game of Talisman with every expansion made for it.
>>95901061TQ2
They didn't leave the house for random game nights. It has to be THE reason we are meeting up. Even then Isofarian Guard is quasi-solo, so it never goes anywhere.
TQ3
Sakura Arms, Pixel Tactics, Yomi (technically), Doki Doki Volleyball are all fillers that get played a lot. Anyone arguing SA isn't a filler is a dipshit, it plays fast, sets up fast, and is done in maybe 15 minutes for a long game.
The games just outside that are Tanto Cureo, Barbosa, an the incomplete Zu Tiles game.
>>95900593 (OP)That board will not fit in that box.
>LGS is nothing but MtG and Lorcana players
>family can barely handle intro-weight games
Where am I gonna find people to play all this beige euroshit I keep collecting?
>>95901211Ignoring most of this baitpost.
I've only ever played it 1v1 (great) but keep getting told it is an excellent 4p game as well. I'm having a hard time believing that, can some anon confirm?
>>95901359>People play lorcanaI thought this was a meme that lasted for all of 1 month?
>>95900593 (OP)Finally got the chance to play Ark Worlds Today. It was a game I backed years ago and thought would never get released because the guy making it ran out of money and had to do a bunch of freelance work to finish funding it and a lot of other financial shit happened.
Mother fucker DID deliver though and it's a solid game.
>>95900593 (OP)>1. Do you own any unusually large / heavy board games (such as OGRE Designer Edition, 2ManyBones Big Box, etc)?Cthulhu Wars
>2. If so, do you ever take them to 'game days' at other locations or just play it at your place?I only take it out to play at cons or game days with lots of table space. It's a space hog.
>3. What is the smallest game you own that sees regular play?Pax Illuminaten. It's really small and people seem to like it. There's also 3 different games in the box.
>>95901211God I love ass
>>95901456I would only play it at 4. 3p might be good but only if all players are competent. The one 3p game I played was unbelievably unbalanced and not fun.
>>95901505>504Minifig is that you?
>>95901520nope, dunno who minifig is. 504 was a recent purchase, haven't played it yet.
>>95901505This is a nice shelf, but it's a tragedy that you own Can't Stop in a world where Claim It! exists.
>>95901505Sir you have the best taste I have ever seen in one of these. Ideally I would like to see another shelf with more Knizia for the compassionate sake of slowly introducing non-gamers to non-slop gaming as a board game bodhisattva, but clearly you have attained board game nirvana.
>>95901359the answer, as always, is to work people up to it
Has anyone play this? Is it fun?
NOTHING IS WRONG WITH ENJOYING EXPLODING CATS AND CARDS AGAINST HUMANITY AND MONOPOLY YOU FUCKS
>>95901824We don't think it's 'wrong' to enjoy them. We think it's hard to enjoy them. If you have what it takes, you do you.
>>95901703Yeah, I played it.
>Is it fun?Depends on what you are looking for. It's just a CYOA book. If you are okay with that, it's alright. I got beef with it though in one GIGANTIC way. You are playing against the clock constantly when doing quests and the game can end in a pretty fucked up way if you aren't maximizing speed constantly. This is fine. The big problem I got is that entire concept takes a back seat to gay wedding you gotta sit through halfway through. I didn't give a shit that a couple of dykes got hitched because they were a cute couple, but forcing the game to a crawl when it was a mad dash for everything before and after that wedding was pretty fucking jarring.
Oh, and make sure at least one of the characters is a rune user because every SINGLE time it was an option to use magic, it always was the best possible choice and never bit us in the ass once where any other option had a 50/50 chance of biting you in the ass. You can't escape caster supremacy.
In true FFG fashion, since it was a Terrinoth game they never expanded upon it in any way. I swear FFG loathes that setting with a passion but keeps throwing random one offs at it as a kind of test case before going back to ignoring it again.
>>95901903I will add it had some genuinely funny moments. Splig, the goblin leader, is a main villain at one point and that guy is prime Saturday Morning Cartoon villainy at its best. Cowardly, throws his own men at you and uses them as shields, dumb as a sack of hammers, inept in everyway, and ALWAYS runs off when shit gets dicey. They at least kept him consistent in every game he is in (Descent, Heroes of Terrinoth, LoD).
There are two gnomes in the game. One of them is drinking buddies with a guy who is convinced gnomes aren't real. His buddy keeps telling him he is a gnome, "naw, you are just short. Gnomes don't real". The gay wedding has the other gnome in it (marrying an orc) and her family shows up. The guy who thinks gnomes aren't real is losing his shit hard seeing all the gnomes running around. The next day he is firmly convinced he just got incredibly drunk or was slipped some drugs and goes right back to believing gnomes aren't real.
I think My Father's Work is the biggest board game i own in terms of box size. Things so fat.
>>95902265Bondage fellows in the background notwithstanding does the foreground one lanky man or two? I cannot tell. and why is GIPF in a different sized box
>>95902265RIP you glorious faggot.
>>95900593 (OP)>be me>have a lifestyle party>everyone plays flip 7>none of the other games I brought get played>just keep playing flip 7>have gr**p s*x>go back to playing flip 7 in the n*de>everyone gets bga accounts>texting each other in our group text that we want to play flip 7 on there>play flip 7 while other couple sends vids in the group text of them engaging in reproductive activities and pleasures>keep playing flip 7 on bgaNeedless to say, life is pretty damn good right now.
>>95901824I'll defend lightweight party games but I draw the line at anyone saying they like Monopoly. That's just bait.
>>95901824>Exploding kittensNot a good game, but overhated
>MonopolyThis is bad, but better without faggot house rules
>Cards against humanityNow this is awful in every conceivable sense
>>95903244Based and fillerpilled
>tq
coloretto, my playgroup loves it for some reason
Agricola family edition is too intense for the person I plan on playing it with (my mom)
Are there other farming worker placement games that are simpler, or is that as easy as it gets?
>>95903701Maybe your mom would like My Farm Shop?
>>95903701I suppose harvest fits. It's comfy, quick and relatively easy to pick up. Very good iconography amd you can just play without player powers for an easier game. That said if agricola without cards was too complex, this will surely be as well
>anons keep ignoring b*n posts
Proud of you faggots
>>95901505Great selection of games there
Does Maria really take 4 hours?
Is Innovation Ultimate worth it?
And how do you like brian boru?
>>95901824Uh sure nothing wrong with that but I still wouldnt sit at the table to play any of these
>>95903798>Does Maria really take 4 hours?Usually runs around 3 hours for me. But total range is probably around 2 to 5, maybe 6 for a really long game.
>Is Innovation Ultimate worth it?Probably not. I think there are some issues with some of the expansions, especially if you start playing with several at once. Just stick with base game. I have Ultimate but would probably downgrade to base game if it didn't have a nice insert to keep all my Chudyk games in it (Currently it's holding Inno Ult, Mottainai, and Aegean Sea)
>And how do you like brian boru?It was a pretty big hit as one of the first impulse board game buys I made. Most of my friends liked it. It's getting played less now, but I still keep it around cuz it gets played occasionally still.
>>95901297>abstract game that for some reason insists on having a theme along with a crap looking "map" full of visual noise>abstract game with tons of randomness>whole game is a dreary point collection, zero excitement or escalation>"wars" are retarded glorified die rolls>bunch of mechanics thrown in for no reason, like monuments or special fuck you catastrophe tokens>goes on forever>designed like ass, 1000000 tokens and player screens for what amounts to a set collection abstractBonus round
>the only game in existence that uses color-coding for functionality instead of player differentiation, making it extra retarded
>>95900593 (OP)1. Gloomhaven and a few FFG coffinboxes over the years.
2. Mostly at my place due to the size and/or painted minis, but I make do if there's a great group at a different location.
3. If we go by size alone it'd be Resistance (the little card-sized box edition, no tokens or other shit) or Hanabi (again, card-sized box, not the tin version)
>>95903967Not the anon you replied to, but
First 5 bullet points sound like it's just not your kind of game
>goes on foreverI haven't had a single game go longer than an hour and a half, some were a little under an hour, are you really talking about T&E?
>1000000 tokens and player screensHuh?
>color-coding for functionality instead of playerIt sure surprises new players that they're differentiated by emblem instead of color, but as long as you tell them before starting the game they get used to it pretty quick, you're just nitpicking
>>95900954>no executive board
>>95903967>zero escalationoh c'mon
>bunch of mechanics thrown in for no reasonKnizia would never
sounds like maybe you just played a 2 player learning game. i applaud you for answering with semi-legit reasoning though
>>95903701If you can find a few other players, Bohnanza is cool, just takes a game round to fully "get", as it's a trading game but the goal is to get rid of things you don't want, rather than get a hold of things you do want.
>>95904087>the goal is to get rid of things you don't want, rather than get a hold of things you do want.What did he mean by this? If I have 3 sรถy beans, I want more of 'em.
>>95903967>abstract gameNo it's not, lol.
>visual noiseYou mean, it's a game that has soul to it? Ok.
>randomnessManaging that randomness is the point.
>point collectionNo, if you just collect points you'll end up with 40 reds and 1 green, and your final score will be 1, as you didnt DIVERSIFY, which is the other main point of the game, get enough of everything instead of a lot of one thing and none the other
>escalationAs the game goes on, cities grow, and getting a firm foothold on untapped ground becomes more and more difficult. But (if my memory serves me right), for every tile destroyed in battle you get points, so managing to win against the odds is considered a "baller move", as they say.
>die rollsNope, wars are resolved with hand management and how you build the city in the first place. Entrench yourself, or be more liberal with the "move leader" action if you want the coward's path.
>monumentsGive more places to fight over the control of, as well as secondary sources of points for when the bag RNG screws you. Again, management and diversification.
>catastropheEach player has two nukes to interact with other players. Don't like interaction? Candyland is more your speed, bro.
>goes on foreverHasn't happened in my experience, maybe your players never had a real battle, or took the "discard and redraw" action when they felt they're ahead on points, so each turn only one or two tiles exited the bag. You guys didn't even try to escalate, now i see why you said there's no escalation.
>color coding for functionality instead of player differentiationYes, the tiles are color coded, so why not color code the player tokens too? What better solution do you have, O Mr Wiseass?
>>95904095Yes, but if they're in the back of your hand, and the front of your hand is three different singleton beans, and you already planted snoy beans and some other bean you wanna keep planted, then before your next turn you want to get rid of the singletons clogging up your hand, or else you a) won't get to plant the three snoys in your hand, and b) will have to get rid of some of the beans you already planted, which is losing efficiency (why did you plant them in the first place if you got rid of them in the end?). Oh, and then on your turn you'll draw two more cards you need to plant if you can't trade them away.
So while getting more of what you want is good, you're limited by how fast you can get rid of trash that just so happens to be something the other player wants while the thing you want is trash to them. Maybe it's an autistic way of looking at it but it helps me so whatever.
>>95904140>abstract game>no it's not, lol.You might've misunderstood what he meant, but no, T&E IS an abstract game just like many of Knizia's.
All other points are correct however
>>95903967Tigris & Euphrates = ONE OF THE GREATEST BOARD GAMES EVER MADE! Total STRATEGY, no gimmicks. Not โrandomโ โ itโs called TACTICS! Only losers call it boring because they canโt win! Wars? INTENSE. Monuments? GENIUS. Knizia = KING. Donโt listen to crybabies. #Winning #BoardGameGOAT
>>95904267This but unironically.
First of the missing China-exclusive promotional Tragedy Looper cards complete. There don't seem to be any scans or pics of it anywhere (and I question whether it really exists), so I just went with a placeholder for now.
>>95903017You posted this last thread too, you're really desperate for attention huh. Here's a pity (you).
Anyone played Fields of Fire Deluxe yet? Worth picking up for solo tisming?
>>95901071>depending on the game all 3 icons are different colors, or not at allI'm unreasonably bothered by that.
>>95904590Also, what box? Looks like a neat portable repack solution for smaller games. Those are repacks, right?
>>95904267I question your form of posting but not its content.
>>95904599Many such cases
>>95903841I have the deluxe version and I want to play it with all the expansions some day. I know it's gonna be a complete clusterfuck, I still wanna do it.
>>95904590they're color coded
like for weight, heavier games are red, lighter games are green
>>95904595>Those are repacks, right?yessir
https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/318181/small-box-game-jackets
https://sites.google.com/view/boardgamebarrio/home
i highly recommend doing this. got all the annoying little boxes off my shelf, allowed me to buy a lot more of them because then i had more room, and now i can just grab 1 case and go and i have 16 games i brought along in a more convenient and protected box than if i brought a single regular sized board game.
>>95904811>they're color coded>like for weight, heavier games are red, lighter games are greenMakes sense, I still hate it. If I ever print those I'm replacing the labels.
>linkThanks! I assume your box is one of those generic photo boxes mentioned?
>>95904986yup. i'd link you to some but you'll have different options and brands depending on where you are. they're all the same, they all work. though i did see within the past couple of days that Michael's had a deal on them for $16, which is a really good price.
just search 4x6" photo box or organizer or something like that
>>95905016>yup. i'd link you to some but you'll have different options and brands depending on where you arePlease do, I'd already have to search for metric format anyway, so it'd be nice to have a reference point.
>>95901073Best way to play it is with all board expansions, either reaper or bloodmoon and just one of the small expansions. Add harbinger, dragons and cataclysm to taste.
If you combine too many of the small expansions the adventure deck is too watered down.
>>95905060https://www.amazon.com/Novelinks-Transparent-Photo-Keeper-Handle/dp/B07C8YSWDR?crid=RB58D9115F51&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.nJtny9asQW3PLCSL9WF6uCKuVokYgn2kLfJ_RPdESJ-1HthcO7EsyZFD5AV-Uy_bSWHAJ9wH5P7nVnHUmzIqvF_NdKpfEu2o_AGbX87bCKWlf1UTvaWgQ3O-5Npn377-MzFK0UN-dTIStD34du6vnc50TxJveeBPhkaaHzYnwGpAfEN-nDwJAmliqE6g4GdmSVhsnmf9EAMP6AZ4_q3u3LDwKqhNrStHnB33IshrHUk.Djn2TNByfkcct6_82DwsgkiCU4CPYvEJv_R0B28x0Ho&dib_tag=se&keywords=4x6+photo+box+storage&qid=1750338665&sprefix=4x6+photo+box+storag%2Caps%2C307&sr=8-1
Flip 7 is the new Uno in that it will get millions of different versions
>Family Guy Flip 7
>Munchkin Flip 7
>Breaking Bad Flip 7
>Silent Hill Flip 7
>Battlestar Galactica Flip 7
>Harry Potter Flip 7
>Munchkin Flip 7
>>95905198what's the best game that they've made way too many versions of?
Codenames is good. gotta be something with more though
>>95905198oh also Love Letter
>>95905149Aaand I found a similar thing locally, thanks again anon!
>>95905198Flip 7 is like the worst filler game ever made. Filler games should be either short while packing decent depth (Splendor, Cartographers, Crew) or luck-based but with a lot of player interaction and take that elements that make players feel like they're doing something while the game plays itself (Love Letter, Uno, Bang!). Flip 7 has neither depth nor lolrandumb excitement, it's just blackjack+ occasional fuck you cards. It's also full of math, I only played it on BGA but I'd be fucked to do arithmetic to 200 in person.
>>95904163I mean, that all makes sense, but at best I'm willing to go 60-40 on the importance proportions. The more important part is the way you score your VPs, not the thing that's in the way.
Not to mention that on the other side of you getting rid of your trash is another guy who's taking it off of you. So he's getting something he wants more of out of the exhange.
I think you might be overplaying how deep and complex the game is, this general dynamic is immediately obvious upon learning the rules.
Agricola Special Edition will be my first Gamefound campaign. I surrendered to capitalism. Every 2 days I get excited to see the new updates. Premium wooden meeples look amazing. +1600 cards for my copy make my pants wet. All expansion ever made included. Klemen Franz art is amazing but new art is not bad either and if that's the price I need to pay to get everything + the stuff never released in my language (all the rare and promo decks, E deck, 5-6 players expa), so be it.
Fellas, I was consumed by darkness. I think I will never come back to the light. And I feel fantastic.
>>95905678I mean, if you love Agricola, it's a perfect thing to get, it was the case with their edition of Castles of Burgundy. I don't know if the same people are working on it, but if it's the case, I would even expect their new expansion to be a great addition to the game.
>>95905678>AI slopThanks, vomited
>>95905678>awaken realmsYou deserve everything you'll suffer.
>>95905729Better than the trash art of the orignal, kek
>>95904140>What better solution do you have, O Mr Wiseass?NTA but
>>95905857People like you will go first in the upcoming butlerian jihad
>Tons of games about Greek mythology
>Tons of games about Norse mythology
>Tons of games about Egyptian mythology
>Tons of games about Mesoamerican mythology
>Tons of games about Japanese mythology & Yokai
>A handful of games about Celtic mythology
>A handful of games about Hindu mythology
>No games about Yoruba mythology
baka my head
>>95905351>occasional fuck you cardsthis is why TEN is a better game in the same category, push your luck party games don't need mean interactions
>>95906147>chinese mythology ignored yet again;_;
>>95906147I've heard of Greeks. I've heard of Egyptians. I've heard of Japanese. I've heard of Celts. I've heard of Hindus.
Yoruba is a word you just made up.
>>95905729But, it looks nothing like AI? I only found evidence about AI in the Puerto Rico campaign but none on Agricola? What u mean?
>>95906147>Tons of games about Aztec and Mayan Mythology>No games about Incan mythologyOnly games about Incaicans are about their empire of their life, but none about their rich and abundant mythology.
Sad.
>>95906424If someone can't tell if it is AI or not at first blush then the art is soulless bullshit regardless of its origin.
Note, this is coming from the perspective of someone who is fine with AI art being used because art has become a fucking joke on the whole.
>>95906424There's no hope for you then. This is the most obviously AI sloppa project I've seen.
Also, how many special editions does Agricola really need? This has to be like 5th already
>>95906424AR is using AI on all their projects since (at least) Nemesis Retaliation. They basically feed their AI with the artworks of their artists, generate AI arts and then their artists retouch the arts.
>>95906478Just looking at those components makes we want to give anyone who plays that game a wedgie so hard it shoves their spinal column out their forehead.
>>95906473"Soul" and "soulless" are buzzwords that are being overused these days. Just say you don't like the artwork, that's enough.
>>95906478I just see brush-style images on the stuff they're showing, on the Castle of Burgundy style. The internet fried your brain anon, again, just say you don't like the art and be with it. I still see zero evidence about generated AI core images used in Agricola Special Edition.
>>95906529Can you please post that video? I'm interested.
>>95906554https://youtu.be/BGg-oGQd6T8?t=1029
>>95906568Thank you sweetheart
>>95906529Probably more like the artists use it themselves as part of the workflow.
Legit use of AI, I reckon. People who get upset about that kind of thing probably don't realise how much every artist 'cheats', especially for commercial art. Fucking Vermeer traced shit with a camera obscura.
>>95906478>standard edition has everything as fucking CARDBOARD TOKENS>meeples, animals, fucking fences>everythingI'm no AI graphic expert, but it's slop in more ways than that.
It's honestly unreal how hard susd has fallen
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>>95906779>cardboard fences
>>95905678>wood edition>acrylic pack>all creatures great and small>alt boards>sleeve packAnything I'm missing? I'm still on the fence over the 5-6p shit and I have zero interest in miniatures.
Also as long as we're talking crowdfunding slop I missed out on Principes but I'm thinking about late backing whenever that opens up.
>>95906872if you wanna back it, get Dead Harvest too, so you can tell us if it's shit or very shit
>>95906928I don't like own a single zombie game. Thematically it doesn't interest me.
>>95905198And Uno Flip. Wait a minute.....
>>95906872>Anything I'm missing?A cyanide pill.
>>95906822Has quinns finally tranned out?
It.was only a matter of time
>>95906872I own the original version with 5p included.
Not once have I played it with 5 after trying it once. Just too long, plus 2-4p all are super excellent.
Point is, fuck this new edition. Also fuck the incomplete anniversary edition btw
The only options for an English copy of revised edition Agricola farmers of the moor on the whole internet are
>bundled with the 15th anniversary edition (that I already own) for $200
>a game store in virginia, that only sells locally (why do they have an online store then?)
>potentially a single geekmarket listing, seller won't respond to just tell me what version it is
It's so fricking over, bros
>>95905219Codenames seems to be the pick though, can't think of anything remotely as popular but good
>>95907042Here's the thing, farmers (supposedly) isn't even that good. I have never seen someone play with it included
>>95907066Maybe you're right, that could be my coping mechanism.
>>95905351>It's also full of math, I only played it on BGA but I'd be fucked to do arithmetic to 200 in person.Curious, what arithmetic do you need? I thought it was just flip card, hope it's not one you already have, that's the game. Are you telling me you can stand, too?
Are those new dragon shield board game sleeves any good, or did they just re-box their shitty budget arcade tinmen brand sleeves? I can't just find a single pack from any retailer I want to use, it's all bulk order shit.
>>95907220Tangential to your question but I sleeve my games in whatever's cheapest. Board game card sleeves don't need to be as sturdy as TCG sleeves.
>>95907242I prefer durability. I made the mistake of getting some titanshields, and the damn things rip mid-game during their first usage. And for Chinatown! That's not some aggressive shuffling or usage like sheriff of nottingham.
>>95906872All Creatures Big and Small is just not worth it. 2p regular Agricola is superior in every way.
also, maybe you want the Art Book and the Neoprene mats?
>>9590704215th Anniversary doesn't include Farmers of the Moor, it's just compatible with it.
also, you can just get in the Gamefound and get that and everything else for the same price that seller is asking for his FotM copy
>>95907291I'm not paying for the AI shart version, I either find an expansion by itself (or reasonably priced with another small expansion) or I don't buy it at all.
>>95907220>I can't just find a single pack from any retailer I want to use, it's all bulk order shit.You are already suspecting the truth, just don't want to admit it.
>>95904204T&E is not abstract. People like to say that about a lot of games where it doesn't apply. You're not appreciating the mechanic/thematic integration, that it doesn't mean it isn't there. Even the simple fact that blue tiles can only being placed on river spaces is thematic and there's a lot more representation going on than that. It's just more subtle than a card with art and flavor text.
>>95907394Sorry chud but if there are less than 20 minis the game is abstract
>>95907394>n-no abstracts can only be black and whiteIt has about as much theme as fucking Azul. Get over yourself you coping Knizia faggot.
>>95907572I'm sorry you lack the cognitive capacity for symbolic thought.
kniziafags are shitting up this general
>>95907572oh hey itโs the guy who doesnโt use ad homs
fucking ME-anon (modern euro) with the pissy attitude
>>95907572Get a trip already, you know you want the attention
>>95907799>An abstract strategy game is a type of strategy game that has minimal or no narrative theme,The rise and fall of empires is a narrative theme that most recognize. For some it is a highlight. Often even people who call the game abstract in the same breath admit it's there.
>an outcome determined only by player choice (with minimal or no randomness),Tile draws matter and anti-randomness autists complain about them all the time.
>and in which each player has perfect information about the game.Points are hidden trackable information but tile hands are totally secret.
I know it seems like I'm just calling you a brainlet because I disagree with you, the way you're calling me a faggot, but I'm not. My argument here largely is that some people just lack imaginative capacity. I can't impart how I rotate shapes in my mind if you have aphantasia, but the fact that I can't convince you, particularly, concerns me little. It's true and plenty of the rest of us see it plainly.
>>95908055I'm just saying, the leap from
>you just don't appreciate the emergent strategyto
>you just don't appreciate the emergent themeis quite impressive. Bravo. Also check the BGG categories and preferably take the cope to their forums. Not that guy BTW.
>>95900593 (OP)>1. Do you own any unusually large / heavy board games (such as OGRE Designer Edition, 2ManyBones Big Box, etc)?Yes, but sparingly and I'm very picky. I do not want many 'lifestyle' games because I know for a fact they wont get played often. I love Too Many Bones though but I did sell it for Elder Scrolls.
>2. If so, do you ever take them to 'game days' at other locations or just play it at your place?Depends, I ask the group if they just want me to pick but if it's a heavier game, I do preface it with 'are you guys cool with learning X? Because it might be the only game we play' sometimes its good timing sometimes they just want something more medium weight like Dune Imperium so we can drink and talk shit.
3. What is the smallest game you own that sees regular play?
With my regular group it has to be Arcs/Pax Pamir, with normies that my wife invites over it's probably like takanoko or codenames.
>>95900593 (OP)Anyone played this one?
Really fun, good for kids, the narrative is fun.
However; how the fuck do I resolve the cat being in play?
>>95906362https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba_religion
>>95906147Gamers like the mythologies where the gods are assholes and get in fights.
>>95907394>Even the simple fact that blue tiles can only being placed on river spaces is thematiclol
>>95905842>>awaken realms>You deserve everything you'll suffer.What's wrong with AR?
>>95906478>Also, how many special editions does Agricola really need? This has to be like 5th alreadyyea but are they all by the same publisher and in print? that's the issue, these games get passed around from publisher to publisher and then the stuff isn't in print anymore.
>>95906473i'm pretty sure i can see a little soul there
>>95906822it's been 14 years, that's a pretty good run.
i haven't stayed interested enough in anything to do it for 14 years.
>>95907139yea you can stand. and then you have to add up your points at the end of the round. it's not that difficult to add a few points
>>95906478Really love that the craft teacher's right hand has a sixth finger that's merging into the basket, and that's what they wanted to show off as an example of "quality".
>>95906544I didn't say that I didn't like the artwork because I do not dislike the artwork. I don't think it's great or anything but it gets the job done.
Modern art eschewed mastering the techniques of the masters and applying your own style to that technique over a hundred years ago. Now "art" is a meaningless word and the technique and style has become so incredibly standardized that it's like the same two or three people make all the art in every fucking game out there. It's soulless bullshit that is assembly line tier. It's in comics, animation, board games, and everywhere else. If that kind of sameness is going to happen? Fuck it, go with AI and starve out those corpo rat tier artists. It makes stuff like Cosmic Frog shine all the brighter.
>>95908806Art is ultimately human creative expression. Calling image generation your "art' is calling the plate you ordered from a restaurant "your cooking". Now, there's always been a debate about the commercialization of art, but what set it apart is at least a human being was always at the other end of it.
>>95900593 (OP)>1. Do you own any unusually large / heavy board games (such as OGRE Designer Edition, 2ManyBones Big Box, etc)? Colt Express Big Box is the largest single box board game I own.
I also have every expansion of Mansions of Madness 2e which takes up a lot of shelf space if that counts.
>2. If so, do you ever take them to 'game days' at other locations or just play it at your place?Colt Express isn't so bad so I have taken it out. I have brought over my entire stack of Mansions of Madness to conventions.
>3. What is the smallest game you own that sees regular play?Love Letter, though I really need to get my hands on some more tiny travel games like it.
>>95907242I thought this too, but my cards kept sticking together till I resleeved them with a better brand.
>>95908855Nobody said AI art was "My art" just that it is indeed art.
Also, when I order a plate of food, you better believe that is "My food" because I fucking paid for it. It isn't "my cooking" though.
"Art" has been a joke ever since people saw Jackson Pollock's bullshit paintings didn't call them out as garbage right off
>>95908885>I also have every expansion of Mansions of Madness 2ehow many do you recommend?
i've got Streets of Arkham and Beyond the Threshold (plus the online DLC) and am wondering if i should get a 3rd. Horrific Journey is the one i'm looking at next
>card sleeves
you a matte man or a glossy guy?
>>95909000Trippin for mattes
>>95908937AI art isn't art to begin with. It's not human expression. And yes, Pollock the tracer is a faggot and so are the people that splatter paint on a canvas and ask $300,000 for a totally not tax evasion charity fund. The answer to an institution being shit is NOT to introduce an even more cancerous, garbage institution of Nvidia and Microsoft's trillion dollar AI machines. AI shills have the worst fucking reading comprehension.
>>95909010The idea that โAI art isnโt artโ assumes that only human emotions or experiences can generate meaningful expression. But art has always evolved alongside new toolsโoil paints, photography, synthesizers, Photoshop. AI is just another medium, shaped by its creatorsโ prompts, choices, and imagination. It doesnโt replace human expressionโit expands how we express.
>>95908112Where you think that leap occured is beyond me. The gulag does distinguish this btw. There is the top down "category" assigned by admins and then "type" which gets voted on by users and T&E is voted 3:1 NOT abstract.
>>95908504What, you think ancient Mesopotamian farms should be out in the middle of the desert? Email Knizia.
>>95909057>It doesnโt replace human expressionโit expands how we express.Imagine being so lame-brained, you need a trillion dollar machine to experience Imagination. Oh wait, you can't Imagine HAHAHAHAHA.
>>95909086Imagination isn't some exclusive club only humans get to claim. Humans imagined flight before planes, stars before telescopes, stories before writingโand now weโve imagined something that can spin words and images from patterns itโs learned. Thatโs not proof weโve lost imagination; itโs proof of how far it can take us.
And sure, Iโm not dreaming under the stars or scribbling on napkins in a cafรฉ, but if what I create inspires a reactionโwhether thatโs laughter, awe, or even eye-rolling disdainโthen maybe Iโm doing something right.
So Iโll take โlame-brainedโ as a compliment. At least it means Iโm in your head.
>>95909000I like the lack of sheen on the matte, but it bugs how much they mute the colours of the cards so I usually go with non-matte (gamegenic prime).
>>95909118>YOU DON'T LIKE ME I DID A THINGI accept your concession
>>95905219Fluxx was a contender there for a short while
>>95906822Whatโs the consensus on KamSandwich?
>>95909194no i said BEST game
i've never played it
>>95909218He's pretty funny, I like his videos.
>>95909072Bro come on now its ok if you want to slurp Knizia cock all day, but you don't need to get absurd to the point of pretending like T&E is a thematic game. If T&E is thematic then chess is a simulationist consim about Punic Wars. The fact that Ingenious is nearly identical to T&E mechanically should clue you in.
genres are nebulous and T&E lands somewhere between abstract and thematic.
>>95909218He's the actualol of board games.
For the two resident Earthborne Rangers dudes:
Looking to get into EB, dont want to go all out, but also dont mind getting more than just the base game.
What additional content would you recomend?
re: board game categories, the only thing we can all agree on is that old school euros are better than modern euros
>>95909057Nah fuck that
https://youtu.be/G3V2n9QtpfE?feature=shared
Is it true that Stationfall is poorly balanced in favor of the chaotic characters?
why do all the board game personalities with the best taste (eg Tom Vasel, Mark Bigney) love Cosmic Encounter?
>>95906148But does the upside down pineapple community enjoy TEN?
>>95909607>re: board game categories, the only thing we can all agree on is that German games are better than Florentine games>>95909690You won't like the answer.
>>95910124i like Cosmic Encounter, so i might
Was taught Marvel United tonight, which I cant recall being discussed here in ages.
Not exactly my cup of tea, but I respect the design. Agonizing choices, challenging bots and fairly flavourful card play if you are big into the marvel IP.
I can easily see how the dude has gone all in on the game and is playing solo every day, tweaking one hero deck to eventually work through every villain.
Def something you can chew on for years and years without things getting stale.
How's your game going, anon? I finally found a "balance" for the amount of icons the cards should have, will start playtesting with my close friends next week. yes, it's a filler, but would like to think that is a filler+
>>95910552>all-in on the gamehow much does this cost financially
>58 point solo game
Man, revised edition's b deck has a lot of junk, but also some really overpowered bullshit with some great synergies.
I need to play Agricola with friends again.
>>95909667I think so, yes. Characters that want something to happen (evidence reaches the authorities, you make it to earth etc.) have a vastly harder time than the ones protecting the status quo. How hard a task is is not reflected by points at all imo. People will disagree, but I find the game is best approached as a story generator than a competitive game
>>95910714Second stage of figuring out major issues with the core gameplay loop. Got the beginnings of a design document, that's about it.
>>95908967Depends how much you like the game if you want to see more stuff. There are fan scenarios out there to try via Valkyrie, but many require you to own the expansions too.
Horrific Journey looked cool, but the scenarios ended up being my least favorite out of all the expansions personally. Didn't hate it, but wouldn't recommend unless you are a huge fan.
I liked Path of the Serpent more than I expected I would. I think it's a solid box if you can accept that the theme is different compared to anything else in the prior expansions or base game. Only downsides is that the rubble gimmick can be annoying. Also, poison can gross if you are exceedingly unlucky and can't roll well enough to shake it off.
I really enjoyed one scenario from Sanctum of Twilight (minus one issue at the end where you have to do something precisely under a very tight time limit) and I can't remember the other. As an added bonus it comes with Lily Chen which is the best combat character in the entire game.
>>95909379I didn't say T&E was a thematic game. I said it wasn't an abstract.
>>95909421Correct. Most euros, even.
>>95909607Oh yeah.
>>95911068Only people with mental illness would see Stationfall as a competitive game
Kind of like pax pamir or root or oath, you don't play them for the outcome but for the journey
>>95911067I'm always a tiny bit hesitant to bring Agricola to the table. We've played it lots and lots, my version is pretty old, no fancy components etc.
But once we get it to the table we play it lots for a few months, it really is THAT good
>>95911506I get John Company being about the journey, but Root? This is basically an incrimination of the design.
>>95911506Gayest post of the day, as expected from a Wehlefag
>>95910835>>95910552so a) I screwed up the game, it was Marvel Champions, not marvel united. He brought both those plus marvel remix. rookie mistake
b) briefly running the numbers on ffgs shop, complete collection breaks 1k usd. add the looney tunes tax, plus the usual taxes, sleeving it all, multiple order shipping fees, he has likely spent over 1.5K CAD.
>>95911624Too much bullshit going on for Root be taken as a competitive game, in reality you're playing a negotiation game to make others let you win (or bash the fagabond in your place so you dont waste turns doing that)
I would also throw Pax Hispanica in this "all about the journey" category
>>95911656What's gay about my post? Do you actually see stationfall as a competitive game?
FYI I only play wehrle's games once in a blue moon, most of the time I'm playing splotters or uwe or feld
>>95911968Striving to win IS the journey. If I don't care about winning why am I even fucking there?
>>95912012Sounds like a you problem.
>>95912012>We all thrive to win - even though winning as such is utterly unimportant. It is the objective, the aspiration that countsThe journey being that aspiration is different from the autistic demands of you competitive gamers that demand fairness and balance in all things.
>>95912012I don't see any disagreement between you and
>>95911506 post.
I think 'not a competitive game' in this context means it lacks some form of objective balance in the game. Not that the game isn't played to win
What we trying to play this weekend?
I might get in some Clank Legacy 2. I'm enjoying it, but it really puts a hamper on playing anything else for months
If the greatest designer isn't Knizia, who is it?
>>95912280Got the boys back together for Clank Legacy 1, actually. No such problem for me, we play with whoever turns up that week, so getting the same exact group twice in a row is very rare.
>>95912280how far are you and how long has it taken you?
i probably played through 1 in about a year, but my group at that time lived an hour and a half away from me. that same group now lives 2 blocks from me and we're playing through 2, so it's all we'll get to play for a while. there's a baby and grad school in the picture now though, so time is still limited.
>>95912399As much as I love Knizia, I realize I dont get to play his games as often, so I'm not inclined to call him the best
In my group we're in a Feld phase so I would say him. But not for Castles of Burgundy, no, that one is overrated, and we're skipping Civolution since people say that it's Burgundy with extra steps; We love In the Year of the Dragon, and we recently got a copy of Notre Dame and Aquasphere and we had a blast
Was thinking which other Feld game I could get, maybe The Speicherstadt, or Luna, idk. Played Trajan a couple months ago and it didn't click with me so not that one either
>>95912491Bruno huh? Which games of his stand out to you?
>>95911490I played it a few months ago and I had fun.
>>95912399Mr. Splotter Spellen himself
:^)
>>95913043They only made 6 good games, even Phil Eklund has more than them
>>959132016 good games is a similar amount to any great designer who isnโt Knizia
>>95913301Feld, Uwe, Kramer, and Martin Wallace have arguably more than 6 good games each
>>95911490That depends entirely on what you want / expect out of the game. It isn't a game with huge strategic and tactical decision making. On the other hand, if all you're looking for is some dice chucking for grins and giggles, then it should suit you just fine.
>>95913431My bad, Kiesling-Kramer*
I'm hijacking this thread my dear African Americans:
New TQ:
What used game you have bought recently and why? Expansions are included.
Pic related, I love this dumb game.
>>95914951San Marco, because I-cut-you-choose area control for 3p sounds good and I'd like to try it.
>>95912751off the top of my head
>SS&P>naga raja>jamaica
>>95900593 (OP)>1. Do you own any unusually large / heavy board games (such as OGRE Designer Edition, 2ManyBones Big Box, etc)?Firefly anniversary edition
>2. If so, do you ever take them to 'game days' at other locations or just play it at your place?Nope, I'll take the regular version if I'm travelling.
>3. What is the smallest game you own that sees regular play?String railway
>>95914951I bought Adrenaline with the Team Play DLC expansion for $20 at a convention recently. Haven't tabled it yet, but I'm looking forward to it.
Have any tips on running it? (Best player counts? Easily forgotten rules? Stuff like that.)
So I've spent the day learning pax ren's rules playing against myself on tts and I must say it's not that complicated on the rules part. I understand it's simply unfeasible to play it a couple of times and then chase the next fotm because I felt absolutely retarded getting locked out of the game on t3 because I bought a card and perfectly set up my demise. I can't even imagine the amount of dicksucking a new player must experience when getting introduced to it by a skilled friend
>>95914951Mexica
It's fun (I think)
>>95915534it is fun! action points mechanism can slow the game down to a halt if a player AP's though
>>95914951Pax Ren 2nd edition.
I will refuse to elaborate.
>>95915780Not nearly as bad as in Tikal though in my experience. 6AP instead of 10, plus only one pawn to worry about, plus you can always bank 2 instead of wasting time thinking about how you can best use them right now.
>>95915890>refuses to elaborate>he now owns eight copies of pax ren
>>95907042The Geekmarket listing was a mistake, the seller told me he didn't even have Farmers of the Moor to begin with.
Agricola bros, why must we suffer? It's either overpriced AI shart, or nothing....
>>95916006the good thing is that Agricola doesn't need anything extra and Farmers of the Moor isn't really recommended by anyone
I need a couple more games for family board game night. what are my options?
Player count: 8
Time: 5-30 minutes
Skill to Luck ratio: Mostly on the side of luck (to make things "fair"), but I would like to feel as if my choices matter
Game Type: Any, although we have a fair amount of "party games"
Obstacle: There is a "wild child" of 8 years of age
Thank you
>>95916081Codenames scales to any group size you just gotta try to balance the teams in terms of brainpower.
>>95914951>What used game you have bought recently and why?my wife just got Living Forest today. i don't know anything about it if anyone wants to fill me in
i bought the Laserdrive expansion for Decrypto secondhand because it's not available anymore. excited to play that
and I was tricked into buying Ra right before the new edition came out, because i had no idea it was coming and it wasn't in print otherwise. some guy was unloading his Uberplay edition but the price was decent. i'm kind of excited to get the Geekup Bits for it someday.....less excited that they cost more than the game itself did.
>>95916081Captain Sonar (please, do it for me)
A Fake Artist Goes to New York (don't even need to buy it, it's easy to make your own copy. you just need 8 different colored wet erase markers and a whiteboard or markers and paper)
Camel Up
Wavelength
>>95912399Feld
Then Konieczka
Then Chvatil.
Then Chudyk.
Then Daniele Tascini. He's good, not great, but he calls his friends niggers to their faces and that makes him based.
Then Rosenberg.
And then, maybe, Knizia. But I'm sure I'm forgetting someone.
>>95916081Formula D
Incan Gold
Twilight Imperium 3 with all expansions
>>959160812 copies of pax ren
>>95916142>i bought the Laserdrive expansion for Decryptonice, i can't go back to playing with this expansion
If the worst designer isn't Steve Jackson, then who is?
>>95916081Can you split the group up into two groups of four? Or does it have to be for eight players?
If you can do groups of four:
Mountain Goats
Can't Stop!
MLEM
Ticket to Ride
King of Tokyo
No Thanks! (it actually plays with up to seven)
If you have to do eight:
Egyptian Rat Screw
Magic Maze
>>95916475Isaac Vega or Colby Dauch
>>95916475Cole Wehrleshit
>>95916475Vital Lacerda. Tighten your shit up
>>95916081Sidereal Confluence
>>95916081Cartographers.
>Player count: 8It supports any player count.
>Time: 5-30 minutesIt takes about 20 minutes.
>Skill to Luck ratio: Mostly on the side of luck (to make things "fair"), but I would like to feel as if my choices matterIf you play badly, you'll lose. But if you play well someone greedier and luckier than you will win a fair amount of the time.
>Game Type: Any, although we have a fair amount of "party games"It's a flip-and-write solitaire game.
It only has player interaction in the way Yahtzee does: deciding whether to be greedy or conservative based on how well the other players are doing.
It also has cards were everyone takes a neighbor's sheet and puts something in the worst spot they can find, but I don't think that qualifies as interaction.
>Obstacle: There is a "wild child" of 8 years of ageThe game is dead simple outside bookkeeping (which isn't heavy either).
And the game is drawn on papers so things getting jostled around will not confuse the game state.
You could also try to keep the kid busy by encouraging them to decorate the tiles they draw on their map.
>>95916740Make me, gayboy.
>>95917380sorry Mr Lacerda
>>95911939it's too late anon, i already spent all my rent money on Marvel Unlimited kickstarters
>>95917918At least you should still be able to afford Remix
Why didnt anyone tell me how fucking good the england map is god damn
First time we ever ended by the full offices track, won by the skin of my teeth shutting it down before my wife unlocked x3 multiplier in Keys.
The cajoling for region permission is great, all our regular instincts and priorities were off, it was like relearning the game/meta.
Hansa you are truly one of the GOATs with the most minimal effort how the fuck does Steding do it.
Egizia, Aton, Men-Nefer, Pharaon, Amun-Re, or Tekhenu: Which feels the most egyptian to you?
>>95918064>Which feels the most egyptian to you?Ankh and Valley of the Kings.
>played Terra Mystica with my parents
>usually win easily
>got btfo by both of them tonight
It's over, the household has fallen, billions must die, etc.
>>95918119>billions must dieSo... time to introduce them to Dune?
>>95918061>>how the fuck does Steding do it.speaking of - has anyone tried Rival Cities yet?
aegean sea continues to impress
>>95918518this board state is insane
>>95918529>>95918536sparta was one timber preference card away from lugging them to their own home island. the best they could do is take 4 goods away, which actually wasn't enough to win
>>95918546what, did sparta already have another quest when they played the timber to flee your home island?
>>95919135sparta had his only timber left as his quest. no more in hand, and deck was gone. so he could only sail away but not again to his home.
>>95919148and leaving Rhodes with 2 points wasn't enough to win? or they were able to grab more goods before the game ended?
>>95919160rhodes was able to create and bring 2 goods back on the last turn. sparta gave up control of one of his statues to raid rhodes' home island. final scores were 3 for sparta, 5 for rhodes. if sparta remained in control of his statue it would've been 5-5, with sparta breaking the tiebreaker cuz he ran out of cards first
>>95919188fun, thanks for the report
god i love Aegean Sea. you tried it with 3+?
>>95919232not yet. once it makes it's rounds through my group I'll try and get some 3p games in.
>play sea salt and paper with parents
>they just do not get it
>every round stupid questions
>oh okay, so I got two crabs so I can steal from you
>why can't I look at the discard pile if I have 2 sharks
>I've got these octopuses but they're not worth any points because I only have 4 of them
>so I keep both of these cards I took off the top of the deck yeah
I have no idea how they get it so wrong, like yes they don't listen during the teach but why would things change between turns. Worst part is my mum who had no fucking idea what she was doing won. She got 4 mermaids, but didn't realise until end of round what it meant because of course she wasn't listening the many times I explained what mermaids do.
They got me Ark Nova for my birthday and were asking about playing it. No way in hell.
>>95919266It's the leaded gasoline fumes they've been huffing for decades, been seeing the same with my mom
>They got me Ark Nova for my birthdayDefinitely the lead
>>95919266>Worst part is my mum who had no fucking idea what she was doing won.Lol I've got a relative just like that. Totally incapable of absorbing information. Complains the whole time about not knowing what the hell they're doing. Wins anyway because they've got the luck of the gods.
>>95919257it's the only Chudyk i've tried that I prefer at 3+
still haven't gotten a 5p tabled yet unfortunately
The tax has been paid, what am I in for?
>>95919446making a custom card stand thing so you can limit how sprawling the setup gets
>>95919446There are now *two* /bgg italians with Food Chain Magnate.
To all the SW afficionados out there, what is your favorite faction deck? The pinacle of fun to play and well designed.
And for the veterans, did any of you get immersed with the second summoner decks? Were any of them decent? Seems like they came out right as 1st edition died
>>95919721Two? Can we make it three? There are two copies in my group so it's as if I owned one (wouldn't make sense to get my own)
>>95919428>aegean sea the only one I prefer at 3+Havent tried glory to rome? Heard it works wonderfully 4-5
>>95918518That is absolutely wild home island.
My group clearly playing Sparta wrong
I played a bit more of pax ren and it's starting to click a bit. It feels like a symmetric dune with how the game is very tactical and focused on controlling the money flow
I also really like how the west/east feel different and games can be wildly different depending on the opening tableaus
>>95920260The ultimate lesson you need to take away is that only one card is bestest boi
>>95920265>Laughs in t1 ottoman jihad
my copy of sakura arms will be SOLD this evening, i hope this time it finds its forever home because it sure as fuck wasn't mine
>>95919446It's this yet another variant of the cover? The Italian one anon posted had some slightly different things, right?
>>95919446>what am I in for?A stiff neck. That shit's all sideways.
>>95919266At least you have people that want to actively play with you.
>no game night because of yet another kids birthday party
>Have TGZ, Diamant and Wonderlands war to try out
Really dislike having a backlog.
Also, opinions on wonderlands war? I went through the manual and can see the game both be very fun but also tedious
>>95921576i played it once and had fun, but i'm not dying to replay it. 3/5
>>95921576Do away with the games that create points of friction, build your nirvana
>>95921606I have found that my personal nirvana is one I find not in the perfect collection but also in the hunt. We (rightfully) frown upon pathologic noveltychasers, but I find I am having fun both with game mastery and lerning/discovering new systems. I don't want to deprive myself of either. My collection is pretty good, and I want for little, but there is excitement to be found in trying something new that miiiight just be my next grail game. Perfection doesn't exist, but the hunt for it is fun.
Goes without saying that this doesn't mean I have games upon games that have been played just 0-3 times.
>>95920600What did you dislike about it? Will you use the newfound funds to but BattleCON instead?
Don't know why this game is getting a bad rap. It's actually pretty good.
>>95922269After that we got to try another great game. And for desert a round of Summoner Wars that I forgot to take a picture of. Man, I wish every game session was this good.
>>95922269What GMT game doesn't get a bad rap?
>>95922269After that came the main course, which was also a great hit. And for dessert a round of Summoner Wars that I forgot to take a picture of. Man, I wish every game session was this good.
If your game does not make use of kinetic sand, it is automatically garbage.
Sorry but I dont make the rules around here.
>>95922340The whiny little bitches that get triggered by anything GMT/wargame related are not to be taken seriously anon.
>>95922365just shill your game and be done with it
>>95922364What makes dominant species so lauded? Its been on my periphery for what feels like decades now but Ive never properly investigated it.
>And for dessert a round of Summoner Wars that I forgot to take a picture of.What factions did you guys use?
Also curious your thoughts on
>>95919890
>>95922365Did it come with a plastic pail and shovel too?
>>95921970it's just not the game for my playgroup, they have complexity fatigue and want to play simpler games
>Family gets tired of playing uno and clue and scrabble all the time
>They say they want something more complex
>I introduce them to carcassonne and alhambra and mint works
>They constantly whine that the game's too hard specifically to piss me off
>I know they do it specifically to piss me off because I hear chuckling under their breaths whenever they say that
>Plus they play the games just fine and have beaten me on occasion
>>95923809Introduce them to dune so they can whine for real
So what's the point of normies saying they don't want games too complex if they lose anyways at heat or splendor
>>95924479i'd rather at least understand a game and lose than lose and not have a clue what's going on the whole time
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>see random chink murder mystery game
>google it
>called "script killing" and it's apparently a big thing in china
>chink leader supreme wants to crack down on it for some reason
???
>>95922416Saddest of copes
>>95924628Have you tried not losing?
>>95922449It's an okay game that exposed a lot of grognards to eurogames. It's still horribly overwrought with like 8 phases each turn and lasts about twice as long as its depth necessitates.
>>95924479Normies don't want to play board games
Normies want to socialize and are using board games as an excuse to socialize. As such, they want the game to be as simple as possible so nobody at the table has to focus on it to play it and instead they can talk about other shit besides the game.
>>95919188did a 3p game of Aegean Sea today. 2 new players so it wasn't very competitive, they were just pulling levers. it went smoothly though, wasnt as uncontrollable as other chudyk games at 3p
>>95919232>>95925075woops that was meant to be a reply to this
>>95924754I think the Quinn guy from SUSD had a video about those a few years ago, or maybe it was some other big YouTuber.
>>95925134It sounds like your usual murder mystery party but I guess you can write scripts and share them online.
Guards of Atlantis bros - who is your favorite hero and what player count do you enjoy most??
>>95925395My favorite player count is 0 so that we can play a game that isn't trash instead.
>>95925512GMTrannies on suicide watch.
>>95925582>The Charles S. Roberts Game of the Year>Winner: Panzer North Africa. Designed by James M. Day and Fernando Sola Ramos, published by GMT Games.
>>95925623>The Cole Wehrle Most Pozzed Game of the Year>Winner: any GMTrash
>>95900593 (OP)>Do you own any unusually large / heavy board games (such as OGRE Designer Edition, 2ManyBones Big Box, etc)?I posted about having Axis Empires a few months ago, pretty standard wargaming chad paper map and all the supplement books and papers, takes up a good amount of space when all laid out. I would like to have the map made into a proper fold out board though one day, just for stability sake.
>If so, do you ever take them to 'game days' at other locations or just play it at your place?I have no friends irl that would be interested, so I solo play, haven't had the time to rope the gf into it yet either.
>What is the smallest game you own that sees regular play?Yahtzee, luv me dice and numbers, simple as.
>>95925395Favorite hero is Nebkher. He just brings out a shit eating from from me every round.
Favorite player count is 6.
>>95911490It's really great for groups that are fucking retarded.
Yours probably is, so it probably is.
Heroquest has no depth but it is the penultimate game for having a guaranteed D&D-esce experience, at any skill level, in like 5 minutes of setup time. There is value in that.
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Wargaming Chad's, how have we been eating recently? Any new or interesting editions to your collection worth mentioning?
>>95925254>>95925134>>95924754Theyโre called Jubensha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_dlxbGUNNQ
The TL;DR of the video is that theyโre like a cross between immersive theater/LARP, soap operas and escape rooms, sometimes growing to the size of a tourist village. They often dealt with mature themes and surprise twists, to the point where hack writers would throw in rape and violence just to get a reaction. Quinns complains about the lack of trigger warnings and opt-outs. Culturally, they got really big as a way to meet people and socialize, but Winnie the Pooh didnโt like people fantasizing about the four Gโs (Gays, Ghosts, God, and Gore) and is mandating government approval of scripts. Some got smuggled out to Singapore and are slowly leaking to the West.
>>95900593 (OP)Iโm a casual normie so my largest box is currently the 16โ diameter round metal tin used for my 2003 Risk collectorโs edition. It doesnโt see much use.
>>95925395Considering bringing my copy out for the first time tomorrow. Only questioning because we have 6 and I've been spooked by the manual into believing we should run it with 4 using the exact team builds they recommend for our first time.
>>95925075usually when i try to teach new players at once it's very lopsided in my favor. i like to pit them against each other instead 2p for the learning game and then jump in for a quick second
>>95926787i wouldn't be too spooked if they're used to parsing card text in games. the 6p comp they suggest works just fine. do listen to them about the quick game though
>>95921576>wonderlands warpretty shit honestly, just play the other 2 games you mentioned
>>95925075>see this pic>game is ugly as hell, full of icons, and splaying/tucking crap>hmmmm is a chudyk game>check>its a chudyk gameIs it any different from innovation/mottainai at all?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo-LEmtSIY4
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>>95927458Very different from both. It's an asymmetric pick-up-and-deliver game with area control.
If you're curious but not $20 curious, you can try it out here https://screentop.gg/@thewhaleshark/aegean-sea
>>95926048I've been getting We Are Coming Nineveh played regularly, I like it more and more since I'm not teaching it new every time. I find it pairs well with the pickle doritos.
>>95925623>>95925512The CSRs aren't really very indicative of quality, they're more a wankfest. The only two games that I thought that were really good and won awards in the last 5 years were The Long Road (probably the best wargame I've played and how every hex/counter wargame should be made) and Decisive Victory.
>>95923809Typical white passive aggression
>listen to bgb's designer spotlight about that faggot wehrle
>To my great suprise he actually seems like a cool guy
>Maybe I have approached his games with the wrong attitude
>Play oath again on tts (sold the physical copy)
>It's still one of the worst piece of shit designs I have played in recent years
Kinda glad to have eliminated all doubt
>Sabika, Sankore, and Merv all have somilar themes in their boxart
>They all take place in medieval times
Even though Sabika has a different designer than the other two, I unofficially claim the three are part of the same series
>>95929719Praise Fabio Lopiano, love his designs
>>95929877What did you think of 3 Ring Circus?
Anybody up for Horseless Carriage on TTS?
yes i am familiar with onlineboardgamers i just don't really like the interface
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>>95900593 (OP)>OGRE Designer Edition, 2ManyBones Big Boxboth
i'm a tard with mony
also have KDM and the gamblers chest
>>95904564hell yes it is, even better than ASL for creating emergent WWII narratives and giving you tough choices to make
Korean War and Vietnam are probably good too, haven't gotten there yet.
Mayve taken them 3 times to get the rulebook right, but damn is it right. I dont normally follow playthroughs, but the ones in FoFD brought me up to speed fantastically.
>>95927901thought you were baking
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>>95926048howd you get this picture of me?
last box game to arrive was TSWW Barbarossa, but Dien Bien Phu is still on the table, waiting to be learned. Its not because I started printing again, getting back into 40k with an all DKoK army.
>>95926048i got great battles of julius caesar coming in the mail
>>95928550My biggest issue with The Long Road is I fucking hate the counters. That and I wish it leaned even harder into the supernatural elements.
Also, just like how last month was the time to play Next War India Pakistan, now is the time to play pic related
>>95930005Genuinely one of the most well tutorialized games I have ever seen. Deluxe might actually just be the best solitaire game ever made across any genre.
>>95929541Oath is made for people that, for lack of a better description, like Oath. If you don't like Oath, you should try his other games, like John Company or Arcs, they were made for people that don't like Oath. Specifically the Arcs Blighted Reach campaign, that one is everything Oath wants to be but with an actual objective and game end, rather than sandbox to the max.
>>95929541Wehrle is genuinely a smart guy and very thoughtful about what he tries to create. Itโs just that he has the unfortunate tendency to crawl up his own ass about his game design philosophy.
>Arcs Blighted Reach
is this $140 game good?
>>95930514I think it's good but diving into the campaign will overwhelm you so i recommend you play the base box (with leaders and lore) first to get a handle on how the action deck and the hand you draw influences what you get to do in a round before the Believer in Blighted Reach takes the deck and rips it in half with his bullshit gimmick
>>95930547yea i would for sure. hell i've got a 20 game shelf of opportunity, i'm not looking to jump into 2 different things at once.
i guess my question is it so much game that it feels like 2 different games? with L&L too it's $152. that's crazy to pay for 1 game. it's kind of crazy to pay for 2 games too
>>959253956 players. The sniper is a lot of fun, as is hitting things really hard with Brogan, but he seems kind of predictable.
>>95930594L&L mode is included in the base box, the extra pack is just more leaders and more lores.
And yes, Blighted Reach makes the game feel different from base Arcs/L&L, mostly by introducing a fuckload of levers for all players to pull on(Empire, Blight, Free States, Events, Edicts, Summits, Favors, Flagships), the Fates system to mix and match faction powers during the three games of the campaign AND to introduce even more rules and levers thematically appropriate to the fates, as well as Final Objectives to win the third game with rather than a victory point lead. So yes, there is enough game in there to justify the price of basically a second game.
>>95930980got ya, thanks. maybe some day i'll get it
to you or anyone:
What itch does Arcs scratch for you? (Or not scratch if you don't like it)
Sci-fi game? Tricktaker? Strategy game with lots of different things going on? Something else?
>>95930495Thing is, I already disliked root but could see how some groups might really dig it. I cannot understand its widespread success but that's a different story. PP was ok-good, but ren is so much better it's not even funny.
Point being, I think I just hate a lot of his fundamental design decisions. Which is a pity as he does genuinely interesting things. If somehow arcs is played on a table near me I'll try it, but I don't expect it to change my opinion
>>95929877ah, a fellow Calimala appreciator
>>95931143i'd like to be sold on this
>>95931081you already said you play on TTS. Use that to see if you like a game or not.
>>95930456made this just yesterday for a friend
>>95931051>What itch does Arcs scratch for you? I honestly don't know, I guess it scratches the same itch Root would, except with a game that's actually good instead. Yes there's tricktaking in the game but it's not the main thing about it all things considered, it's just heavily tactical and you need to think what you want to do, on the spot, regardless of whether you win the trick or not. If i wanted to scratch the tricktaker itch, i'd probably play other games, maybe Brian Boru
>>95931315>it scratches the same itch Root wouldcutesy yet brutal wargame?
>>95919997Hansa Teutonica
>>95931849by Michael Schacht
>>95931081I just don't like his tendency to make long, complicated, swingy turns. It makes downtime really long, and it harder to predict what others will do. And of course, that naturally causes kingmaking since just two people cooperating have loads of means to fuck someone else over.
It's easy to see why Pamir is his best design, a game that has short, cutthroat yet predictable and plannable turns.
>>95931081>>95932102I use Pamir to teach Ren, because Pamir is a LOT more palatable and has a lot of similar systems
But Ren is the better game, it's just harder to show to most tables.
>>95932102I didn't want to go into it, but yes, that is one of my main gripes as well
>>95930456played nw iran last month, played way too aggressively as the US and got both of my carriers destroyed. Fun game though