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Thread Question: How do you see DE blob-derived murderwedges? Acknowledge them? Consider them just badly drawn ISDs?

>>95903354 (OP)
>Thread Question
I acknowledge themm, theey're mostly imagined by various creators as something that ends up looking better than the ST-retard class or the horrible Pellaeons from that other comic.

Updated galaxy map from the acolyte visual guide

>>95903670

>>95903677

>>95903680

No one will care, but I've looked into the acolyte book and there are some Sith reveals.
>The Stranger is not Plagueis' apprentice. He's just a random dark Jedi and Plageuis arrived to see what was going on
>The Stranger could be another potential apprentice of Tenebrous or an acoloyte of him.
It seems that they planned for a larger Sith story before the show was cancelled. They should've just done a Sith mystery story instead of the actual steaming hot pile of shit we got.

>>95903740
It's funny because there was a good show somewhere in there and some of the characters (SOL) had a lot of potential, it just really shat the bed.

>>95903740
>all of the good stuff is relegated to sourcebooks instead of the actual show

jesus christ

>>95903754
Yep. There was an interesting story around the jedi and the hidden sith that should've been 90% of the show. Instead 90% of the show was the bad writing and acting of the twins and the show runner putting in her own shitty fanfic story instead of working on a good star wars one.
>>95903759
>>all of the good stuff is relegated to sourcebooks instead of the actual show
Most visual guides are like that I find with Star Wars, except for the rise of Skywalker which is a comedy book which basically says we don't know how the Emperors throne room is intact, don't ask why.

>Beware; for I am fearless, and therefore powerful.

What's your lightsaber color?

You think Cal and Merrin will form a new order of Night Jedi with Kata on Tanalorr?

>>95903844
Yellow

>>95903844
Green is the thinking mans Lightsaber
>Luke
>Yoda
>Jolee
>Qui-Gon
>Revan

WE STAND HERE AMIDST MY KALKITE, NOT YOURS!

Life in the Former Soviet Union.

>>95903844
Crimson

>>95903889
I'm afraid the recent shaft collapses has laid bare your inadequacies as a mining director

>>95903670
>>95903677
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>>95903680
>>95903681
This might be the most detailed galaxy map officially released. It also recanonizes a whole bunch of old EU systems. Too bad tgey decided to stick it in the Acolyte guide for some godforsaken reason, and no way I'm getting that just for a nice map.

>>95903844
Black. I just think it's neat.

>>95903844
Is shit brown available? I need to blend in with the shit troopers.

>>95903844
I've always had a liking to orange blades

>>95903681
>Bothan Space
Has Disney even bothered to explain what Bothans are in Disney canon?

>>95904414

They are furries in the EU.

>>95904414
probably saving it for a cringe tales of the rebellion episode showing how they got the death star 2 plans

>>95903740
After Obi-Wan I've decided that maybe not every Star Wars show out there is worth watching, so I've skipped the Acolyte. Still, I've checked out Qimir's scenes and they were pretty good, he deserves at least a five issue comic book

>>95904570
He was the only enjoyable part of the show and the choreography was impressive, especially with how bad Ahsoka and Obi Wan were. The actor was at Celebration this year and looked so sad though fair play to him for being the only one to show up.

>>95903831
Now, i agree that this show sucks ass, but everyone getting so fucking assblasted by Mundi being there "BeCaUsE iT cOnTrAvEnEs CaNoN sOuRcEs!!!" was kinda hilarious.

The canon source in question was an interactive CD from a Cereal Box released to tie in with Phantom Menace.

>>95904596
To be fair to Obi-Wan and Ahsoka, it's not the fight choreography that's improved, it's the Lightsaber props. Those Force FX lightsabers are REALLY heavy and doing the flashy Prequel stuff with them is practically impossible. So, using them, they can only do the heavy A New Hope style stuff.

From what we've heard, they really went back and improved the Lightsaber props to make them much lighter and actually managable. Although i still say they should bite the bullet and go back to the Aluminium sticks. Looked better, weighed nothing, cost nothing, but the FX sabers saves a shitload in edittng, so they keep using them.

>>95904632
Good because every lightsaber has looked shit since Disney took over. They're so fucking bright, it's horrible.

>>95903670
I was thinking just the other day of an Origins of the Jedi plot. Where the Rakata (on map) we’re bringing shiploads of Force-Sensitives for experimentation and slavery when one ship’s Kyber Crystal reaction mysteriously malfunctions over Ach-To. Forcing a dozen different sects to form a synthesis of beliefs and become the Jedi.

But then I remembered there was no way a story could use the Rakata because they were owned by BioWare.
But the idea of a post-Zeffo, post-Rakata Galaxy ruled by Witch-Cults could work just as well as for the idea.

>>95904647
I, for one, like bright and thick lightsabers

>>95904745
As contrast to the dark and thick meatsabers you doubtless also prefer? Shove your crappy opinion back up the gaping arsehole it dropped from, Disneysabers are shit like everything else they've dribbled out.

Decided to do Thrawn's Armada from heir to the Empire in my style.

>>95904959
Here's the baseline from WEG Heir to the Empire sourcebook

Clone Commander Barbossa

>oh man niamos looks like a nice sunny beach planet, I wonder where they filmed it? spain? california?
>lancashire

>>95905032
What's wrong with Lancashire bitch? Are you a smelly Yorkshireman?

>>95904965
Interested to see how this would look with the better designed canon ships
>Picket lines replaced with Arquitens
>Close support replaced with gladiators

>>95905032
The UK is getting as hot as Hawaii tomorrow so I would expect the Lancashire Coastline to be nice enough for a holiday trip after a heist in the Scottish highlands

>>95903844
Green.

Every Jedi's Jedi has a green lightsaber. Luke, Yoda, Qui-Gon.

I did play a bokken Jedi with a green lightsaber. The crystal got stolen by a Hand of the Emperor. I eventually upgraded to a golden bladed crossguard lightsaber, so yellow is also okay to my eyes.

>>95903354 (OP)
>TQ
I used to like them a lot, but the more I've invested in the setting I just don't like them. They verge too much on the ridiculous and they never show up in anything of substance. I have my blorbos among them, like the Assertor, but if I'd ever used them they would be as one-off command ships of Grand Moff Villainous Dude

>>95905073
its the norf

>>95903844
Blue
because I'm Red-Green color blind

what is your favourite all time star fighter?
for me it's the ARC-170 just because I'm a sucker for multi-crew heavy fighter-bombers

>>95903670
sick little drift section

>>95903740
>>The Stranger is not Plagueis' apprentice. He's just a random dark Jedi and Plageuis arrived to see what was going on
Amazing, so this means that Darth fucking Plagueis was hiding in like the cabinents and closets of this fucking cave until the stranger and Osha violation left.

Fucking Disney

>>95903740
>They should've just done a Sith mystery story instead of the actual steaming hot pile of shit we got.
"Everyone will love our lesbian space witch storyline"

>>95904414
>>95904504
Knowing Filoni he will make them all space wolf people

>>95904570
>>95904596
He and the squid game guy seemed like the only ones who cared and tried

>this is what everyone wants in their star wars, space witch lesbians and incompetent terrible jedi

>>95903844
Red. Simple and classic.
Plus can fuck with the colourblind.

>>95904685
Disney can still owns the Rakatans they're mentioned in Andor, they own the IP as a whole so even if bioware/ea/broadsword create something for a game licensed from Disney then Disney still has free reign to use it

>>95906670
>"Everyone will love our lesbian space witch storyline"

>>95906979
we all know why this storyline exists and why they changed the Witches from their EU origins

>>95906588
Always been a big fan of the torrent, love dorky ships

>>95907038
unless that pic is katie lucas, its not related

>>95906979
Pic unrelated? They aren't lesbian.
>>95907038
Because George Lucas never considered EU slop to be canon.

>>95904414
There was an EU Bothan look alike in Filoni's Resistance, but the species was never named.

>>95906588
Droid Starfighter.
I like how they can just chill on the hulls of starships.
Also people flying dinky little fighters into battle is a waste of good pilots.
A few squadrons of elite heavy strike fighters that are freighter sized + swarms of disposable droid fighters and interceptors would be my space battle philosophy.

>>95907422
The existence of chattel slavery implies that organic life isn't much more expensive than droids, if at all

>>95906588
Thanks to the x-wing books I got severly interceptorpilled

>>95905032
They filmed Andor S1 entirely in the UK due to Covid I think. I know Gilroy said he wanted to film the Kenari flashbacks in New Guinea or Thailand but had to settle for a park next the Pinewood because of travel restrictions and the budget of ferrying however many kids in a plane over there for that during a pandemic. S2 has more international stuff what with all the French actors they brought in for Ghorman and a lot of stuff being filmed in Spain.

>>95907658
Low value chattel slaves probably don’t make a ton of sense as fighter pilots.

>>95907210
George cared enough to give his input to it when asked (like with the Force Unleashed), but always saw it as malleable and something he could supersede without a fuss as far back as the Marvel comics going with the early draft of ANH that depicts Jabba as a human pre-Empire Strikes Back.

>>95907874
>interceptor
well yes, however

>>95905260
>Arquitens
>gladiators
I don't get it anon, you said 'better designed...ships'

>>95904503
Which is why I'm confident if they get canonized as looking like anything else, we're going to see a chimpout on the level of the reaction to TLJ or SOMEHOW. Furfags are autistic and tribal, I'm sure the Bothanfags will raise hell.

Frankly, I've seen some cute Bothan grils, even if I've mostly outgrown my own furfaggotry.

>>95903844
Last game I played the whole party rolled for lightsaber color (we were all starting as Padawans during the Clone Wars). I didn't want yellow at first, but rolled with it when everyone else in the party also managed to roll yellow.
Slopped up rendition of character.

>>95908685
>avenger
cool, but

>>95906588
I just like how weird it looks

Since i apparently hate myself i decided to do the Vengeance Battle Group at scale. The Vengeance herself is so big i had to shrink everything down 50% from my usual scale just to fit it without my computer chunking. Jerec to rolling in with a B I G G U R L.

I had to make some guesstimates for the composition of the picket forces part. I dug into the WEG Imperial Sourcebook for some ship compositions and decided to do a mix of legends and Disney canon ships, just to piss both the EU purists and hardcore Disney fans off at the same time.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Vengeance_Battle_Group

>>95909414
How do you even staff something like the vengeance or the executor for that matter?

>>95906588
Despite being around for the OG trilogy, it's kind of a tie between the ARC-170 and the Eta-2 Actis, for me.

I'm pretty sure the ARC-170 takes a lot of its design cues from the P-61 Black Widow. Nearly the same cockpit placement, same engine placement... Chop off the tail and replace the droid socket with some guns, and the P-61 becomes an ARC-170.

And we know how often Lucasfilm dipped into the WWII well for ideas.

>>95906588
Despite being around for the OG trilogy, it's kind of a tie between the ARC-170 and the Eta-2 Actis, for me.

I'm pretty sure the ARC-170 takes a lot of its design cues from the P-61 Black Widow. Nearly the same cockpit placement, same engine placement... Chop off the tail and replace the dorsal guns with a droid socket, and the P-61 becomes an ARC-170.

And we know how often Lucasfilm dipped into the WWII well for ideas.

>>95909433
The Executor (same length as the Vengeance) is stated to have a crew of ~280.000, all personnel included.
As a comparison the USS Enterprise has a maximum crew of 5,828
The Vengeance is pretty much a medium-sized european city (or a large shopping mall for you yanks) in space.

>>95907909
Tell that to the Empire

>>95908813
Yup and I mean it bud, just because you are a homosexual doesn't mean blocky dildos are a good design. Star Wars is for getting away from gay realism crap, not embracing the autistic part of sci-fi. Fuck off to The Expanse or some shit you total fag.

>>95903831
>>95903740
feels like you are trying to force yourself to hate it

I liked it for what it was, a tragedy and a romance story, a single shitty EP won't ruin the whole damn thing. Sadly it won't get an ending

95910046
retarded

>>95908681
>Marvel comics going with the early draft of ANH that depicts Jabba as a human pre-Empire Strikes Back

Fake fan. The comics were based off an actually filmed scene with Han talking to a human Jabba in ANH. That's why the added scene with the digitized version in the Special Edition looks so janky when Han steps over Jabba's tail.
Also, this General just cannot seem to ever talk about traditional fucking games, instead of /tv/ wankery, can it?
Pic sadly unrelated to the cesspool that is this general's standard level of discourse.

>>95909668
You will be made to love the superior design language of the EU anon.

>>95910161
Ah yes, breaking away from the Danger Dorito design language of the Empire in favor of the Danger Dildos.

>>95910169
The Danger Dildos were made specifically to fuck the rebellion

What would be the equivalent starship or fighter to an old Pontiac firebird? Large enough for someone to survive on the road(galaxy) in but not super comfortably

>>95910628
Skipray blastboat maybe?

>>95906588
my shipfu, forever and always

>>95910161
God, the dildo ships look sp ugly and uninspired

>>95909433
If you are galaxy spanning Empire with galaxy scale military-industrial complex then you can get as many people you need, especially since it's biggest baddest flagship that everyone wants to be.
It's kinda like HMS Hood, WW1/2 battlecrusier with displacement(weight) and armament of bigest battleship. Despite being WW1 era battlecrusier it had same preformance as german battleship Bismarck. Hood was reason why so many sailors signing up to Royal Naby, everyone wanted to serve on Hood. Ships like that serve as symbol and floating navy ad. This is also why when Hood was sunk because Bismarck got lucky and managed to directly hit ammo magazine, blow to perstige and morale was so high that entire Royal Navy made it's existence about finding and sinking Bismarck as revange.
So empire on galactic scale wouldn't be short of volonteers who joined navy to serve on SSD, ship that's more than 10 times larger than other capital class ships and have firepower to match. Executor or Vengance like all flagships are flashy propaganda tool outside of heavy warship.

>>95910046
I'm not forcing myself to hate it. It was genuinely a bad show but it had potential. It was no worse than Obi-Wan personally but I still think they should've finished their story but changed a lot of things going into S2. It was probably cut because it was a money drain without success unlike Andor which was a money drain that has had acclaim.

>>95910860
I adore skiprays in empire at war expanded
Four or more in a control group are murderous to corvettes.

>>95910972
Sorry you have shit taste, anon.

>>95905783
angloid opinions like this always make me laugh, because the distance between the bottom of the south and the tip of the 'north' of engerland is less than the span of distance I drove last month; I drove in a straight line and never even left my state.

>>95911138
battlestar galacata ahh looking ship

Y'all should play some Legion
>>95910146
Nice, anon. Tell me about (you)r game

>>95910972
>ugly and uninspired
But enough about yer ma, let's get back to discussing Star Wars tabletop eh.

>>95911551
who won the obi-wan vs ventress scrap

>>95911576
Ventress, mostly because he was wounded from protecting the commandos and Cody from droideka and BX sniper shots.

>>95911587
8 black dice seems super good, but I guess she's not as defensive or has as much hp as others

>>95911591
Yeah, that dice pool isn't super reliable, but she's pretty cheap for what she brings now. She is relatively easy to kill, yes.
Her 1 pip usually means that she gets like 7 or 8 hits through with pierce 1 due to Makashi.

>>95907086
>love dorky ships
Opinions on the Mankvim?

>>95908681
Marvel Jabba was an alien, just a humanoid one (he's specifically one of the aliens from concept art of the cantina scene. I don't remember if that design made it to the film, though). I'm not sure if George always intended Jabba to be an alien but hadn't decided what kind, or if he just didn't care how the character was portrayed since he never made it to the film in the first place (I know he's a guy wearing a fur coat in the deleted scene, but that could have just been a placeholder look until they got a proper costume for the finalized scene that never got filmed).
George generally gave EU writers a free reign as long as they didn't directly contradict what he felt were integral parts of his vision, or cover stuff he intended to work on later. The most famous is him prohibiting anybody from writing about the Clone Wars and Anakin's fall to the dark side because he knew he wanted to tell that story in the films eventually, but there's some other examples as well. Like back when nobody knew what a Sith was other than Vader being called a Sith Lord in the novel and a cut line from the DS1 boardroom scene, the writer of the Lando trilogy correctly surmised that the Sith were an order of evil Force-users and wanted to make the main villain of the trilogy a Sith, but George refused since he was at the time still working out the details of what the Sith should be like and prohibited anybody from writing about them, so the author made his own order of evil Force-users, the Sorcerers of Tund (later on George did allow EU writers to use the Sith, and the Sorcerers were retconned into being a Sith offshoot). Or how Timothy Zahn originally wanted the clone Jedi in Thrawn trilogy be a clone of Obi-Wan, and wanted to use Sith as the name of the aliens that eventually became the Noghri, thus justified Vader's title as a "lord of the Sith" by the species being sworn to serve him. Obviously George shot both ideas down.

>>95903354 (OP)
Starting a campaign soon, based on one slight change to history, that Anakin failed at landing half a ship, so no Vader, no Palpatine, and no Obi Wan. The CIS "won" the Clone Wars, and 200 years later the galaxy has shifted from independent planets to mostly stable interstellar governments. The Jedi Order split up after the Republic government was dissolved, several of these regions are home to splinter groups, some joined up with other Force traditions like the Jensaarai or Nightsisters, there's also several darksider traditions out there.

>>95911683
what happens to Luke

>>95911725
Padme was already pregnant so he's born on Naboo and him and Leia lived mostly peaceful, happy lives, Plo Kloon and Ki Adi Mundi moved to Naboo with a handful of padawans after the Order disbanded and founded a force tradition that still exists in the sector today. Luke and Leia are distinguished figures in it's history, respected as defenders of Naboo space as both guardians and diplomats.

>>95911211
yes but in an american state, basically everyone acts the same
in england, you'll go from posh houses and golf courses to subhuman council estates 2 counties over

>>95911591
>>95911595
I had one game using her where she used saber throw to kill gar saxon and then proceeded to wipe a squad of mandalorians

>>95911825
good, fuck mandalorians

>>95911822
Mostly true, in Cali if you get more than 50 miles from the coast you'd swear you were in Texas.

>>95907350
I think a Lucasfilm employee came out and said that was not a Bothan as they had not yet decided on what Bothans were in nu-canon

>SPECIAL RULES
>Mk IV FCS: As a maneuver, the pilot may activate or deactivate the Mk. IV FCS. While the system is active, the ship's forward-mounted twin light laser cannons' Linked item quality increases to 4, and it gains the Tractor 2 item quality, but only this weapon system can be fired.
So, what happens when you swap out a weapon system?

>>95911683
It's kind of funny to think of that Palpatine bet the entire future of the Sith grand plan on his soon to be appretice's ability to successfully land a burning hulk of a spaceship missing its entire aft section. Sure, his abilities as a Force-user probably lets him see the future, but the future isn't entirely determined (if it was he'd have known he couldn't turn Luke and that Vader would kill him), and all you need is one tiny thing to go wrong and the Invisible Hand crashes with no survivors, leaving all the Sith dead and the Republic leaderless.

>>95911902
Lore-wise, thhings might keep working, maybe at reduced efficiiency.
I'd say it depends on how radical the changes are.
If you replace the laser cannons with a different model from the same maker, no biig deal.
If you rip out the laser cannons and blasters and put in a pair of bigass ion cannons you looted somewhere, better find somebody with serious mechanic and slicer skils, because that FCS is probably going to tell you to climb a wall of dicks (in binaric)

>>95906588
I love the dumb experimental TIE versions

>>95912139
Stormtroopers and TIE have variants for everything. I bet there is TIE variant for fighting under sand like some fucking sandworm and there are hypertroopers who are specialised in fighting inside hyperspace.

>>95906588
My truest love in Star Wars. I love a non TIE Imp fighter, a non S-Foil INCOM, and a shield but no hyperdrive fighter. Howlrunner is a beautiful meeting point of the three. I even made a model of one to scale for X-Wing 1.0/1.5, but the game died in my area with the 2.0 launch before I get enough interest to start floating the topic of customs for casual games (plan was to recast dozens of them and give them away into the local community along with slightly underpowered cards for it, to float it as an option for casual games).

>>95906588
TIE Defender. It's TIE but have all fancy stuff like hyperdrive and shields, while having more firepower than other imperial and rebel fighters, it have ion cannon and proton torpedos because why not.
I fell in love with it moment I used them in Empire at War, you just summon them, they destroy all enemy fighters, then procced to delete enemy larger ships and guess whan, corvette they are supposedly weak against? Well if you have 2 squadrons then just fuck it up with ion cannons, then blast it away with torpedos and cannons.

Star Wars :)

>>95906588
Where are they flying too? What’s their destination?

>>95906670

Only Disney could make lesbian space witches unappealingkrxvn

>>95911683
I think instead of the Jedi order collapsing it just lost galactic influence without a state to back it up. The only reason it collapsed in the first place is because 99% of them died in one day

I’m glad Dark Times is non-canon because I really felt sorry for the clones.

>>95906588

>>95912946
Poop

>>95903354 (OP)
>TQ
A lot of them don't appeal to me aesthetically, but I do like the Mandator/Bellator line for being a take on 'take an ISD and scale it up to it's theoretical endpoint'. The Bellator is probably my favorite SSD design and the only other one I'd like to see used more beyond the original Executor.

>>95906588
Aurek. It's just a good, solid snubfighter design.

>>95903844
Purple or indigo from canon, outside of canon the black-indigo from swtor is easily my favorite

>>95912417
Unironically if they had just made them attractive and put a few of them in skimpy clothing people would have ate it up

>>95912526
>lost galactic influence without a state to back it up
It would also lose cohesion without resources, the temple on Coruscant was dismantled as part of the dissolution of the Republic, remember the CIS still won, and they're not fans of the Jedi, Dooku or no Dooku. There was no destruction, no trials, just "it's time to stop." Jocasta Nu took the archives and holocrons elsewhere, the various artifacts were taken to other temples on other worlds, but without Republic resources the largest ship they had for this was the Crucible, and whatever other ships that planetary governments were willing to let them use.

>>95906588
Can't beat it

>>95908681
Jabba was a humanoid alien in the early Marvel run, anon
>>95910146

>>95914484
That's a good point, I forgot about how public opinion of the Jedi soured during the war. I imagine they would live wherever the temples were, a very decentralized order to fit the decentralized nature of the galaxy.

>>95914832
Yup, and why many of them were willing to join up with other traditions, even Nightsisters, they're not exactly spoiled for options. Alderaan took in the bulk of the Jedi, Bail Organa is still Bail Organa, but over 200 years a lot has changed, including many Jedi trying to rediscover their pre-Army of Light roots, when Jedi went by the title of Lord and ruled their own planets, a significantly easier prospect when the galaxy is big on independent systems.

>>95914872
Would the Republic still exist in your setting? The CIS were a secessionist movement from what I remember, I imagine a setting where they win still has a smaller, weaker Republic and a large confederacy secretly ruled by an oligarchy that no longer has any restraints.

>>95914484
I think its unlikely they would 100% disappear, even after order 66 and the empire purging everything related to jedi in the main canon a few of them still managed to stick around, you can also look at the Dai Bendu who are still around despite basically being made obsolete by the jedi

>>95911551
>>95911595
any closeups of that commando team they look cute

AIbros won...
https://files.catbox.moe/o8ysw2.webm

>>95904965
I may be misunderstanding, but those TIE Fighter numbers look extremely low. 360 total fighters for the fleet? Is this intended to show how many are out of the hangars under normal conditions?

>>95918365
The amount of TIEs that a Star Destroyer can carry, and the amount that will be carried and crewed in a line are different things. Imperial doctrine tends towards operating significantly less fighters than most imperial ships within a line would have capacity for, so it is generally assumed that the remaining TIEs listed in a ship's maximum compliment are either
>not assigned to most vessels
>spare ships to account for attrition/duty cycles
>TIE variants like /rc and /fc vessels instead of just /ln TIEs

>>95917856
Here you go. I think that the new upgrade cards will breathe new life into these doods, they were desperately missing aim tokens for sniper pierce.

i liek star wars

>>95919498

>>95918761
Stalin

>>95904414
>>95904503
Bothans need to be a less distinct species in order for the spy network to make sense. They will stand out in a crowd no matter what world.

Le Yuuzan Vong XD

>>95919987
I'm sure the way it's worded that it doesn't even imply that Bothan are a species. It could be retconned to be a name for an organisation. I like the idea of them being an elite James Bond rebel spy group instead of just little furry people.

>>95920071
By that logic, Twi'leks woulld be the ideal spies.

>>95920092
I agree, only because they're everywhere and can blend in though how well they could blend in with the Empire is another question. It's why I find it funny that so many people who play Imperial Agent in SWTOR play it as a Chiss. One of the rarest and least inconspicuous races there is.

>>95919987
You'd think that, but Mossad manage to get everywhere they need to go. This is a retarded joke mods, calm down.
Personally I always assumed that Bothans are just exceptionally talented at military type covert ops while also maintaining a wide network of non Bothan informants and contractors to get them places that they aren't meant to go.

>>95920007
Le everything I tell you is a lie XD

>>95903670
slapped it together in gimp and removed the acolyte shit. it's a bit iffy in places due to the source image and the retard who formatted it for the guide itself.

if some anon has a fancy editing software with some magic eraser feature the boxes could be removed too.

>>95920345
nice, thanks anon

>>95920345
Damm SW galaxy is a mess, it's just dots with names dropped in random places. Like from Naboo Tatooine is in oposite direction from Couruscant, entire galactic topography doesn't matter in slightest.

>>95920473
It's a galaxy where hyperspace travel takes hours, every planet seems to have the same rotation cycle length and each planet is also a single biome. Sometimes you just have to turn your brain off and enjoy it for what it is

>>95919987
>Bothans need to be a less distinct species in order for the spy network to make sense.

No, they just need to do away with the retarded notion that [species] = [single job/personality/trait/thing].

Instead of the entire Bothan species working in or being committed to intelligence gathering and spying, it should just be a small few. Bothans should be no more famed for, or seen as spies, then any other race. It should just be that in the case of the second Death Star it was an intelligence network of Bothans that discovered it and got their hands on the plans, suffering heavy losses while doing so.

Think of it like this;
>Many French spies died to bring us this information
That wouldn't mean that all French people are spies. It just means that the intelligence network that brought them the information was French.

>>95920482
>Sometimes you just have to turn your brain off and enjoy it for what it is
It works when presented in story like movie or book. It doesn't work with additional materials, you look for them to see worldbuilding only for said worldbuilding to not matter in the slightest.

>>95920345
Thanks anon. I was having trouble visualising this map until I realised that it seems like they have changed galactic north from when I was last looking at maps twenty years ago, now the maps point north where I used to feel was galactic north-east. Feels very odd seeing Tatooine in bottom right instead of bottom/bottom left, but I guess it would now work better for a vertical poster compared to the old popular layout that was for a two page spread.

recommended/easiest way to paint B1s for legion?

zandri dust spray from gw+wash+drybrush highlight?

>>95920899
Your recipe sounds about right. Do not overcomplicate your b1s, you'll need to paint AT LEAST 54 of them.

>>95920979
w-why 54

>>95920995
Assuming you don't want to mess around with super squads, you'll eventually need 6 basic squads of b1s, each one including
>6 basic doods
>1 leader
>2 heavy weapons

6 because that's how you max out in non-separatist invasion.

>>95906684
Hot-I mean a good way to make Bothans a cool species and a valuable member of the Star Wars franchise.

>>95920473
Tatooine being further away from the core does make sense since it's supposed to be a backwater world that during the prequels was outside the Republic's sphere of influence (they didn't even accept Republic credits there), while Naboo is, while not an especially prominent place, still a reasonably wealth world with representation in the senate.
The thing that doesn't add up is how they ended up on Naboo in episode1 if they were supposed to go the Coruscant. It's probably explained somewhere, but I assume it was something along the lines of them wanting to take a less direct route to throw the Trade Federation off their trail, as they'd likely assume Amidala's ship would be heading up the branch-line that led to the Hydian, and from there to Coruscant, and try to stop them on the way there. If they went down the minor hyperspace routes to Tatooine they could have re-entered the Mid Rim followed other minor routes "north" until either going down the Hydian or looping towards the Core along the Perlemian.

>>95906724
>this is what everyone wants in their star wars, incompetent terrible jedi
George unironically did this in the prequels when he made the Jedi deeply flawed cannon fodder easily killed by droids and clones

Based on the comments from the last thread, I decided to download SWTOR to play through the class questlines. Which one should I start with?

>>95909246
This design is really fucking stupid and ugly and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>>95921092
How would you have designed an Imperial heavy fighter that was still visibly a TIE design?

>>95921089
Depends on what playstyle/story you want.
I personally enjoyed the actiony classes, like Sith Warrior and Trooper.

>>95905260
Bro it's been years, you're still on this? At least the DHC and Carrack actually won some fights, the Arquintens exists to miss shots and explode.

>>95921089
Best are sith warrior, inquisitor, Jedi knight and imperial agent. All others vary in terms of good and bad. Personally I would do Jedi knight first, it’s a good entry into the wider conflict going on and then do Sith warrior after for a parallel. You can now pick any combat style for the classes so your Jedi knight can be ranged force user or go around with a double bladed lightsaber. Pick what looks fun is the best advice though

>>95919987
While I think that both of these responses (>>95920101; >>95920502) offer good explanations, I'll throw another in. There are ways to spy without ever being physically present. Perhaps Bothans excel at ELINT.

>>95921167
Close:
The Arquitens exists to look cool while missing shots and exploding.

>>95921167
I just really like Armada, it solidified the imperial and rebel fleet compositions to me, the aesthetics were top tier

>>95910161
They’re very generic sci fi, don’t look Star Wars in the slightest. EU writers had the poison of realism brain that didn’t understand ships are meant to look cool and thematic to their faction, not function over form tubes

>>95911653
Never seen it before but it’s cute

>>95921089
For the love of god, pick a stealth combat style. Otherwise, you'll have to kill all the trash mobs between the interesting content.

>>95911587
>>95911595
I really like the color scheme on those Super Battle Droids and Droidekas.

>>95921360
:)))

Putting together army lists to represent the first year of the clone wars. What stuff would the republic usually use on the ground, what stuff would the CIS use? I’m not too sure about when certain things were made, I know Super Tactical Droids were a later war thing, but not much else

>>95921461
Whatever you saw at Geonosis and Naboo would be a safe bet. I know that the HMP and the Juggernaut are late war.

>>95921461
For GAR, basically what you saw in episode 2. Clones in phase 1 armor, LAAT/is, and AT-STs. Also while they didn't appear in the film, canonically the GAR also used clone commandos and IRIC the AT-ST carries a pair of speed bikes so those would exist as well.
CIS had B1s, B2s, and droidekas (either the model from episode 1, or ones with more powerful guns but no shields. Later in the war they developed one that had both the better guns and shields), and the tanks and transports seen in episode 1.

>>95921510
>>95921571
Thanks, based on clone wars they also had AT-RTs and according to the games they had TX sabers as well. Trying to think what a suitable anti tank charge that clone would usually use

>>95906588
I am a big fan of the Belbullab-22. Playing classic Battlefront II growing up probably has something to do with that.

>>95921413
I like those aqua droids too, solid work. Did you get the idea from the color scheme on CIS ships?

>>95921049
>The thing that doesn't add up is how they ended up on Naboo in episode1 if they were supposed to go the Coruscant.

I assume you mean how they ended up on Tatooine, from Naboo...
In which case, that's literally explained in the movie. They're leaking fluid/coolant/whatever from the hyperdrive and can't make it to Coruscant, so they have to head for some place closer that's safe. They pick Tatooine because the Trade Federation has no presence there, being that it's controlled by the Hutts.

>>95921729
Exactly! My roger rogers are based on the CIS Naval scheme

>>95920163
Kek, anon.

Nerds & Geeks here

>>95906588
I've always liked the TIE hunter from the third Rogue Squadron game , a TIE fighter with S foils like an X wing, and torpedoes, ion cannons, and a hyperdrive -- its sorta weaker version of a TIE Defender

So…is there an explanation for why there can be no galactic government after the Republic / Empire? Why is the Imperial Remnant (First Order) the only large-scale government in the galaxy even after the Rebellion was victorious? Did the rest of the galaxy ust sort of settle down into fragmented planetary governments and waited for the Empire to came back and take over? I don’t get it,

>>95922492
Are you on about legends or Disney canon? Either way, the rebels winning at endor wasn’t an immediate end to the war. A galaxy wide faction like the empire wouldn’t just disappear. There is no peaceful transfer of power so the remaining holdouts will consolidate power until it’s over. Most planets and people seem ambivalent to the war anyway and it’s about just focusing on their lives even if they dislike the empire.

>>95912951
rude

>>95920482
But it doesn't take hours, unless you're a Disneyfaggot, in which case your opinion has no value anyway so the statement remains true.

>>95923211
It took hours to get from tattooine to alderaan in a new hope. Luke got on the millennium falcon, chilled for a bit and then they were there. They were not sitting on that ship for weeks travelling.

What's your favorite starting ship for a star wars rpg? I am trying to pick one that isn't just a falcon rip off was thinking of going with a beat up/malfunctioning 121-b but wanted to see what other ships you liked to use for your parties.

>>95915176
I'm going to have some of the regional governments want to reform the Republic, but they're not making much headway.
>>95915871
They didn't disappear, if anything there's more Jedi than ever, they're just not all a single order.

>>95921571
>AT-STs
You thinking of AT-RTs, or AT-TEs? Because the AT-ST is Imperial.

How the fuck did she become a Vice-Admiral? Was it just nepotism?

>>95924029
>long neck
you just know she put it to good use.

>>95924029
>>95924033
Holdo is a throat GOAT?

>>95920099
>how well they could blend in with the Empire is another question
They're well-known and respected for their ability to mainitain morale.

>>95924029
She was a highly respected mathematician, which translated into logistical/coordination ability in the Rebel fleet. There's supposed to be elements of this in Last Jedi where she's completely ineffective in leading her staff, but she manages to pull off the only effective lightspeed ramming maneuver in contemporary warfare.

>>95920099
To be fair Chiss show up pretty often in SWTOR and they never really treat it as odd when they do, if you've only ever played the light side storylines for the first few chapters Chiss basically are just an imperial species they didn't start to course correct and make them rare til later expansions

>>95924288
You also have to remember that TOR predates the Disney buyout, so it's operating on its own take on the old canon.

>>95924172
>the only effective lightspeed ramming maneuver in contemporary warfare.
Until the next movie when some random asshole did it again. Also Pippin thought they could just do it whenever they wanted.

I noticed that a few of the models i used were not true to scale so i spent a couple of hours arranging all ships i have top-down images of into proper scale to each other and with their canon lengths. I have even saved a version with my calculations and room for more ships. I will not go above ImpStar sized though as that will make the smaller ships single-digit pixels sized.

This also works as a Imperial Warlord fleet builder: You have 3000 points to spend, length (rounded to closest 50 for odd numbers) equals point cost of one ship of that class. Have at it.

>>95924956
The Arrestor cruiser is that big? I figured it was half that size.

>>95924956
>1x Imperial-Class Star Destroyer, 1600 points
>2x Dreadnought Heavy Cruisers, 1200 points
>1x Raider-Class Corvette, 150 points
>1x Gozanti Assault Carrier, 50 Points

I might not have the largest fleet compared to other warlords but i have enough firepower to carve out a slice of the crumbling Empire and keep it should any pirates or upstarts try to take it.
Raider and Gozanti will acts a recon/skirmish/pursuit force with the dreadnoughts as the hammer to the ImpStar's anvil.

>>95924984
It probably should be around the size of an Arquitens, but what do I know.

>>95924984
>>95925034
The Cantwell arrestor cruiser is 1,363.13 meter long according to wookiepedia
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Cantwell-class_Arrestor_Cruiser

>>95924956
>Vindicator Class Heavy Cruiser (600)
>Ton-Falk-Class Escort Carrier x2 (1000)
>Strike-Class Medium Cruiser x2 (900)
>Lancer Class Frigate x2 (500)

Logistical question for an upcoming game, did apprentices just get to freely choose their lightsaber style when they went to get their kyber crystal? Could you just say uhm actually I need two lightsabers or did everyone get one and those who use a dual wielding style have to get their second one later on?

>>95926126
Considering the journey they need to take to get there crystals on Ilum, they likely only get one. Now, if Ilim gives them a second crystal, that would be its own rare mark of providence that they should use a second saber. But most would have to deal with one saber before being allowed a second for any specialized fighting style.

>>95926151
>Now, if Ilim gives them a second crystal, that would be its own rare mark of providence that they should use a second saber
This was probably what I was going to go with either way, if they're meant to use two sabers they get two crystals at the same time

Cal's crystal split in half so he got two swords.

>Ahsoka
>Cal
>Ezra

>>95926612
The 501st also ran a train on the other two???

>>95926764
yes after they were finished wish sister

>>95924956
>Nebulon-B is that small
>I'm supposed to believe it can take out an Arquitens
ridiculous

>>95926764
Did the 212th ran a train on Lady Satine?

>>95927292
deathwatch certainly did (this is canon btw)

>>95927245
The arquitens (or class 546 lightspeed cruiser in later imperial service) is designed as either a command cruiser or long distance pursuit and recon craft. While the Nebulon-B is designed specifically for to be a frontline frigate.

Arquitens/Class 546 lightspeed cruiser
>4 light turbolaster turrets
>8 quad laser cannon emplacements
>4 Concussion missile launchers
>contingent of 4-8 TIE fighters

Nebulon-B
>12 medium turbolasers (6 fore, 3 port, 3 starboard)
>12 light laser cannon turrets (6 fore, 2 port, 2 starboard, 2 aft)
>1 torpedo/advanced concussion missile launcher
>2 heavy tractor beam projectors
>contingent of 24 starfighters

>>95927245
The Arquitens a shit

>>95927354
So why is the Nebulon-B so smaller by comparison?

>>95928153
Because of scale inconsistencies stemming from compositing errors/choices in the OT movies. The canonical size of the Neb-B is based on the scene at the end of Empire Strikes Back with Luke and Leia at the window of the medical bay. But even within that scene, the scale is clearly wrong, as the miniature of the Millennium Falcon docked to the frigate is far too small relative to the window, suggesting a larger sized Neb. And then in Return of the Jedi, the Neb is practically Star Destroyer sized when compared to a Corellian corvette in the foreground.

Shaak ti's race has very sensitive head horns, so grievous stroking them is pretty much the equivalent of grabbing her tits or putting a finger in her

>>95928653
Thought only the lekku were sensitive. The montrals are just hollow horns I believe
>t. Togrutafag

>>95928653
>Shaak ti's race has very sensitive head horn
>sensitive
>horns
Yeah, horn is a famously sensitive substance, why else would it be there to protect your fingertips?

Yup, just like grabbing someone's tits, if they used their tits as ears, and those ears were covered in a thick layer of fingernails. Just like fingering someone, if that someone had a nerve-lacking shell covering their orifices, so they can't be penetrated at all.

Failing biology and xenobiology at the same time... how efficient: Leaves you with so much more time to think gooner thoughts, instead of anything even remotely resembling sense or logic.

>>95924172
>There's supposed to be elements of this in Last Jedi where she's completely ineffective in leading her staff
Was that what they were going for?

>>95928153
My headcanon is that most of the bulk of the arquitens is taken up by a fast hyperractor, command&control hardware and a massive sensor suite.

>>95929375
>>95928680
Ok but he touches the lekku too so

>>95928617
Don't forget its point-blank broadside fight with and ISD in Return of the Jedi

>>95928617
>>95929484
Or we can just accept the ship with the smaller volume (Nebulon-B) is weaker, but probably capable of punching above its weight-class

If you could make RPG videogame set in Star Wars, what would you make? (Besides KotOR 3)

>>95930550
Cyberpunk 2077 except it’s Nar Shaddaa and you’re a bounty hunter. Create your own character, work up in the ranks and have a cool jet pack

>>95906588
Too bad it was crap in the games. Sure looked cool to me.

>>95906588
Z-95-AF4-H

Meta-wise - what makes a good blaster design?

>>95930550
A sandbox game set during the galactic civil war. I just want a game where I can explore the galaxy looking for markets to exploit in suicidal smuggling runs but also where I could be something else entirely in another build, from bounty hunters to hired guns. Imagine something like 3D starsector with mount and blade and kenshi in the mix.

>>95931353
Maximum Firepower so blasters won't be a complete joke in crossover battles

>>95930550
Jedi RPG inspired by Fable, you start as your created custom character as a Youngling, then grow into a Padawan, then Jedi Knight, then Jedi Master or Sith Lord.
It would be set during Episodes I,II,III, IV, V, VI, and the imperial warlord/remnant era.

>>95930550
Sandbox light freighter shipping game.
Travel the galaxy, haul cargo, occasionally ferry passengers, upgrade your ship, explore and relax inside of your ship.

Do you guys ever used any of the SW systems for your own space fantasy setting?

>>95911725

>>95931855
I once hastily modified some droid statblocks and a ship from Saga Edition into a b-movie 'mutant aliens from another universe' encounter in an Urban Arcana campaign.

>>95928617
I like how Andor / Rogue One implies that the Mon Calamari just show up to the Rebellion late and immediately go "We have capital ships. Fleet-scale engagement, let's go. Fuck Star Destroyers, we can take 'em. Scarif? Done. It's on. Throwing hands and smashing ships." While the Rebellion's diplomatic/espionage wing is just bowled over.

You know that if the small ship attack on the Death Star failed, the Mon Cals would have 100% suicide charged into the laser dish.

>>95932433
that's actually what's happening in the battlefront 2 death star map if you look at the skybox

>>95931457
>Star wars Vs 40k
>Clones completely stop using the carabines because they are useless against everything but mechanicus
>They switch to max power rifles, which work well against the guard, and are still pretty bad against power armor.
>>95931353
The DP-23 is really annoying in Legion, GAR has too much easy access to Pierce.

>>95921255
So you like Gladiators?

>>95933852
Heh, more lie... gaydiators... jej

Gladiators are for patching holes in WEG D6 fleet structures that previously were the domain of ugly 80s ships.
And for when the Sector Moff didn't get his full set of ISDs, as too many were needed to hang around Corsaraunt or one got blow up in a Rebel attack.

>>95934180
What about Victories and Venators?

interesting idea in an old magazine

>>95934262
vagina

>>95934284

>>95931584
The fuck is this?

>>95934357
Penis

>>95934716
AI sloppa art.

>>95923251
>>95923211
The Falcon is extremely fast and is not the average starship

>>95930550
underworld strategy management game where you try to build up your own crime syndicate. start as a local small timer and end the game as a galaxy spanning underworld power

>>95930550
Sandbox mechanics focused rebel guerilla simulator. Like a more casual antistasi.

We talking ships? Any room for the Pellaeon-class? :3

>>95935043
I like this ship

>>95923251
The timescale in the original movie is a bot screwy since Lucas probably didn't originally have a specific time frame in mind (plotting out the events of the film down to the minute is another case of fan-autism that eventually worked its way into canon), and IIRC based on some early sketches of the map of the locations Tatooine, Alderaan and Yavin were originally envisioned to be closer to each other, as opposed to the now standardized galaxy map that places Alderaan near the core and the other two near the southern and northern rim of the galaxy.

>>95930550
Imperial Remanent during the old EU timeline where everything is imploding during the Imperial Civil War.

>>95935043
>taste the rainbow, mutherfuckers!

>>95935043
>Pellaeon-class
Maybe the worst ship design of that era, but iit's really hard to tell given the piles of garbage in that story arc.

>>95935043
Nah.

>>95903354 (OP)
What do we think Kenobi's home world is like?

>>95920502
>>95920101
>>95921241
Literally how it's handled in the older EU material

Matt Martin's just a hack.

>>95931584
This but xenoverse instead of fable

>>95929472
Yeah. She completely upbraids Poe for his hero complex, but she still plays fuck fuck secrecy games badly enough to cause the mutiny. There is absolutely no way there's a mole aboard and the enemy fleet is famously in league with a literal psychic to account for their dogged pursuit.

>>95940155
There is no point, TLJ is essentially Plothole: The Movie.
Things happen because RJ wants them to happen, characters are cardboard cutouts with RJ's fantasies and some memes and marvel-tier oneliners stuck to them.

>>95938421
No idea, but I'm pretty sure if we crossbreed men from that planet with women from Dathomir we can pretty much make a Force Kwisatz Haderach in three generations or so.

Started to add Rebel Alliance ships to the lineup as well. Since the rebels had a tendency to nick any ship not chained down i set rules that there had to be more than one of the ship type on service during the rebellion era, so no providence, lucrehulk or captured ImpStar.

>>95941166
Really puts things in perspective. The Imperial really was a monstrosity.

It's wild how many people during the old republic would just carry a sword around and think to themselves, "yeah, I could probably take a jedi/sith"

>>95941166
>>95941335
And that's even without getting into bigger things like Bellator and Executor.

>>95941166
>Hammerhead: 116 meters
>Imperial Star Destroyer: 1600 meters
I have no idea how that Rogue One hammerhead captain fit those massive balls of his in a hammerhead.

>>95941166
>>95941335
No wonder the ImpStar was considered a priority threat wherever it popped up by the rebellion, especially the early rebellion when they didn't have many of the 700+ meter capital ships.

>>95941557
Bellator doesn't exist.
>>95941988
>>95942008
Meanwhile, to dumb Saxtonians, the ISD is a corvette/sloop type ship, and ships you've never heard of before like the "Bellator" are the real deal.

>>95942014
>Executor
>Vengeance
>Bellator
>Assertor
>Mandator I/II/III/IV
>Secutor
All of those are sector group HQ-level assets assigned to important High Admirals and above for defending critical infrastructure like orbital shipyards or assigned to personnel outside of the regular chain of command like Vader or Grand-level inquisitors (Jerec)
TL;DR: Anything above ImpStar in size is a statistical anomaly fo the Imperial Fleet

>>95942035
Bellator's acceptable as a lower-level threat since its around 8KM, it could serve well as a stand-in for the 8km SSDs that were floating around the EU, with an undefined class that werne't Executors.

Vengeance I figure is just Jerec's pet project. Assertor, they only built two of, that's fine.

Secutor isn't really a SSD, its more like an overgrown Venator.

>>95942035
The way WEG d6 portrayed the Imperial Fleet and indeed it remians canon. I didn't see how the Rebels could win where every sector had aso many Star Destroyers.

>>95938421
Lowland scotland

>>95942071
All those ships are probably spread out and conducting stop&search anti-smuggling operations or anti-pirate patrols in the entire sector. If some rebel team kicks the hornet's nest hard enough, for example the Scarif raid, then all available sector level assets converge on one system at speed to severely ruin the day of whoever kicked the nest.

>>95941557
Here >>95909414 is a scale difference for ImpStar to Executor (technically the Vengeance but they are the same length)
Sector HQ level asset indeed

>https://www.starwars.com/star-wars-galaxy-map

To be expected this doesn't include The Acolyte planets from that new visual guide to encourage purchase, and seems to be missing a couple of planets from the Complete Locations map. But it does plug in Skeleton Crew worlds we know about and Thrawn Ascendancy stuff (I don't remember this being anywhere other than the book tie-in map).

I imagine the map or pdf at the bottom will be updated over time with new placements (the pdf has grid refs for more worlds than shown)

Mighty happy Adumar is back on a map (I know it was name dropped) and fucking Valahari is in the pdf (with D'astan sub-sector inferred).

>>95942047
IIRC Vengeance was literally the result of Jerec wanting his own Executor but the emperor refused, so they compromised by getting him a similarly sized but less well armed custom-built ship. It's basically a stripped down Executor.

>>95942251
thx m8

>>95942251
>jedha and scarif are literally on other sides of the galaxy from each other and its treated like nothing
I know star wars has always kind of had this problem but cmon

>>95942793
How long does it take to move across the galaxy?
Three days or so spend getting in and out of hyper along a trade route?

Obvioiusly depends onn your hyperdrive, too, but since iit can't really be a weeks or months long voyage thing, because travel time is treated as negligible in-universe.

But a day spent in hyperspace holding hand with your waifu in your bunk sounds kinda cozy.

If you guys have any suggestions for ships to add to this >>95941166 gimme a shout. Even better if you already have hi-rez top-down pics of the ship in question.

>>95942251
Azzameen Station is there
Hold up, so the old X-Wing games are canon?

>>95942014
Saxtonite assumption is that since the Imperial-class is called a star destroyer, it must be equivalent to a naval destroyer and there must also be star cruises, star battleships, star seaplane tenders, etc. I suppose you could consider the Executor the battleship to ISD's destroyer, but the Executor-class was extremely rare and not a standard part of Imperial fleet composition (even in the EU there was only ever about 20 SSDs in the whole galaxy, compared to thousands of ISDs). Star cruisers do actually exist (the MC 80 is sometimes referred as one), but aren't depicted as bigger than ISDs. In fact, most ships designated cruisers are smaller than the ISD, with the biggest ones being roughly of comparable size.

The more reasonable assumption is that SW ships are designated based on role rather than displacement. Something like frigates for escorting larger capital ships, cruisers for long-range patrol and commerce raiding, and destroyers for destroying other vessels. ISD is also kind of an outlier for its size, as it's much bigger than ships like Venator, Providence, and Victory, which are also referred to as destroyers. So possibly it could be a Zumwalt-class situation, where Palpatine called it a new destroyer class to replace the Victories and Venators because the senate would be more likely to approve that (the ISD was commissioned at the tail-end of the Clone Wars, long before he had completely sidelined the senate) than a new class of giant planet-fucking super battleships.

>>95942854
nah they just take all the old EU planets because they can't be bothered making up a galaxies worth

>>95942848
It takes 2 weeks to cross the entire thing using a standard civilian hyperdrive, but it isn't crazy to think that Captain Andor would have a faster hyperdrive that lets him to it in 1 week or even 3 days

>>95942848
depends, its a mixed bag

I was looking for barton IV, and only barton is on the pdf so assuming that thats the system (grid reference S5, its on the map), it takes "about 2 hours" to travel from coruscant to there in a shuttle

>>95944414
I am assuming the shuttle has hyperspace? I headcanon it as the length depending on the quality of the hyperspace lane/routes and less actual distance.

>>95942793
Jedha in general is in a weird location

>>95944530
yeah it was via hyperspace, and if you look at the map, it'd be going along one of the major routes

depends on the quality of the roads really, just like real life

>>95938421
Strict pizza height regulations

widerawwy fweaking me if i was in star wars no cap

Luke, did I ever tell you about Gold bullion Effiel Towers?

>>95941166
I'm really out of the loop, I can hardly recognise half of these ships/designs, before I could have named/listed of all the specs

>>95942848
depends on the the source, book (EU) or films, in the films, a few hours, the books depends, soemtiems hours, days or a week, on the class of the hyperdrive, the better the quicker and the hyperspace route taken, their is a bit in the 2nd Thrawn book (original Thrawn trilogy) where Mara tries to work out where she is based on the ships hyperdrive class and speed/travel time --- the millenium falcon was supposed to use a back up hyperdrive -EU source- that took a few days/weeks to reach Bespin

>>95903354 (OP)
Cam Kennedy blobs are peak. DE is honestly one of my favorite inspirations for vehicles.

>>95945769
Rebel ships from right to left:
>MC75 Star Cruiser
>MC80 Liberty Type Heavy Star Cruiser
>MC80 Home One Type Heavy Star Cruiser
>Dauntless Heavy Cruiser
>Assault Frigate Mk.II
>Assault Frigate Mk.I
>Neutron Star-Class Bulk Cruiser
>Dreadnought Heavy Cruiser
>MC40a Light Cruiser
>Liberator-Class Cruiser
>MC30c Frigate
>Quasar Fire-Class Cruiser-Carrier
>Nebulon-B Escort Frigate
>Pelta-Class Strike Frigate
>Pelta-Class Command Frigate
>Marauder-Class Corvette
>CC-7700 Interdictor Frigate
>CR-90 Corvette
>DP20 Gunship
>Sphyrna-Class Hammerhead Corvette
>Action VI Transport
>GR-75 Transport
>CR25 Troop Carrier

>>95945842
Thank you the rebel ships anon, still unsusre on some of the Imps though

>>95946015
Here's >>95924956 one i made earlier with the Imp ships labeled

>>95942071
WEG was never really consistent on this stuff either.
The Elrood sector, for example, had only two star destroyers for its patrol fleet

>>95942870
Where would things like Bellator fit in though? Would they exist?

>>95948110
Youu ccann fit them in if you want to. As mmentoined, SSDs are very rare, they're really moree of a show-of-force symbol and reward for the most loyal Moffs/Grand Admirals.
There are a number of classes larger than the ISD that essentially fit in that category. Too big to deploy economically, but they serve as station flagships in the hundreds of 2nd tier sectors where you don't want to deploy a super-rare Executor, but it just looks better if you give the sector command something bigger than 'just another ISD'

>>95948110
The midsized SSDs did serve a purpose in the old EU to explain away the mentions of 8 km long SSDs when the Executor was clearly larger in the film. Beyond that, you can assume they're basically just Executor-lite, still able to act as a massive flagship and penis-extension for some moff or admiral, but not quite as expensive to build than the Executor.

Fun fact: ever wondered why so many sources claimed the Executor was 8 km long? I've traced in back to a line from the WEG Imperial handbook, which seems to be a case of the writer misremembering or misinterpreting a line in the script and novelization of ESB where the Executor is mentioned as being larger and more powerful than the 5 ISDs that accompany it, and written that the Executor is as large as 5 ISDs (since ISDs are 1.6 km long, that would make it 8 km long). Then everybody just repeated that statement without bothering to check if it actually fit what we see in the film. There's even one novel that mentions the Executor-class is 10 times the size of the ISD (close enough: it's actually 11.8 times as long as an ISD) but still gives its length as 8 km. American writers having no idea what a kilometer is probably also has something to do with it.

>>95948992
>Youu ccann fit them in if you want to. As mmentoined, SSDs are very rare
You've got to work on that stutter, anon.

>>95949663
My keyboard has been doing doubles lately, I have to take off the caps and clean everything. It's rather annoying.
Have some Twi'lek slop as distraction.

>>95949721
Generate some togruta slop instead

>>95942251
How big is the chiss empire supposed to be in canon? They're not leaving them much space

>>95941166
Added ship classes for both factions.
I'm thinking of making an alternate version where i toss in fanon ships from stuff like I.M.P.S The Relentless, Fractalsponge and other similar sources.
Probably gonna keep one Canon/Legends version and one Fanon version

>>95950466
>>95950466

>>95949721
It's wild to generate slop and then slap a deviantart logo over it to make it even less appealing.

>>95951727
It's sad and pathetic, but half of DA is just AI slop that the faggots think they deserve to get paid for.