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>Thread Question
How do you think GW has handled the cult legions vs the divergent Space Marine chapters?

>>95904101 (OP)
PREVIOUS THREAD BECAUSE I AM A DUMBASS
>>95899717

Sex eldar.

Firstborn are 8ft tall, primaris are 9-10ft tall.

I stop building because fingers hurt.
Otherwise I'm 120 of 120 hormagaunts and 9 of 18 leapers built!
Once leapers are built, it will be broodlord on that weird fucking base I have no clue what I'm doing with.

I may make the Neurolictors more daddy-longlegs feeling. But with stabby talons.

Where are they, GW?

>TQ
Divergent chapters were a good idea on paper, but currently we're almost through this edition and Space Marines have been nerfed so many times because if they even get a crumb of 49% winrate something gets dumpstered, this trickles down to the non compliant chapters who may or may not get fucked by whatever shit GW is cooking up
Chaos is currently living their best life because if one warband gets nerfed it doesn't also fuck up the other ones

>>95904101 (OP)
They wont make a full cultist army
That no one would buy them

>>95904101 (OP)
Since I fucked up by posting right at the end of the last thread, I'll try again. Does anyone have some good recommendations for Primaris Scale cyborg limb bits? I got a box of Marines that I want to turn into an Iron Hands Successor chapter, but I want to use some of the more crazy/exotic cybernetics that you see in the art.

>>95904135
There's a detachment for that. It sorta works with a bit of rending to the cultists.

But it pales to other choices.

>>95904148
If you're good at sawing little dowels, gluing plastic string, floss, bending mini wire and using the marines original hands you cut off the arm you can probably do it yourself.

Can I make good use out of the Acid Spray Fex? I have mine already modeled and I like the look of it, but doesn't seem like it has the same "oomf" it used to.

>>95904121
At least post good elf art

move forward and engage targets

>>95904129
That model on the right is the only marine I've seen that doesn't have a single part of it that I'd want to steal for a conversion.

Does anyone have any tips for making a Medicae that would work in both 40K and HH?

>>95904128
When you finish this army you should do a gsc army of spiders wearing shoes and holding guns

>>95904184
magnets

>>95904189
>>95904189
I'm looking for excuses to add more units like scorpion/trap door spider mawlock or something. But I'm fizzling a bit, I still need to figure out a paint scheme.
Currently looking into color shift paint and I would do bottom a dark shift, the top with a bright shift. With how they work I can drybrush shiny black and spray again to get multi-shifts.

>>95904170
I made it long ago, I will try to be better

>>95904207
Careful I remember the avatarfagging long ago, the mods carpet banned everyone. They left and never returned.
>all of the meme artists left
>all of the cultist chan artists left
>all of the other chan artists left
>no more art request threads for years
Yeah be careful.

>>95904216
Well that sucks.

>>95904233
It was a nasty episode of power mongering.

We lost roughly 20 artists and they were quite talented. I have some vintage of their stuff they did for my requests on another computer.
>the computer before that died and I lost half of it

>can't hobby this weekend because I'll be drinking and puking and eating and stuff all weekend because midsummer celebration with relatives

>>95904198
Mixing/layering pearls sometimes has some very strange results, I'd suggest doing lots of tests

>>95904252
It's going to get a test model or two I plan on stripping. I need to get my old airbrush working again. So much to resurrect for the spider project.

My idea is dark shift purple-gold and do a bright yellow/green gold on top. Two different companies makes the two I will shift together.

>>95904238
Big oof.

>>95904181
I'm the opposite, I think it's a banger model and everypart of it is incredible

>>95904242
Don't drink, Helvete

>>95904184
What's different between the two?

>>95904282
Käften, I like my bread and potato juice.

>>95904280
It's weird enough that I can see someone liking it. It is just so weird though

Anon who mentioned doing a demo game for a university tabletop/anime club here:
Friend and I decided on Blood Angels vs Nids, just a 1000 pt game to make it as shrimple as possible. I got a good variety of nid models: What are good nid models to show off to newbies?

>>95904290
To each their own, that's the magic of a wide range / Fuck you for not liking it reeeeeee [cross out the unnecessary mention]

What kind of techmarine (or equivalent) do you like?

>>95904287
Then stop complaining >:O

>>95904101 (OP)
>How do you think GW has handled the cult legions vs the divergent Space Marine chapters?
Poorly, but only due to the realities of it I think.
I think the Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves (and I guess now Black Templars) should have enough unique units that they essentially have what was done with the Cult Legions and they lose access to 'base' Space Marine units unless they run a specific soup Detachment. On the Cult Legion side, I feel like World Eaters and Thousand Suns are just lacking in range, but the same could be said for many armies in the game.
In my ideal world, all armies would recieve equal attention, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Black Templars and Raven Guard would be spun out into their own Codices. T'au would split into T'au and Xeno Mercenaries (Kroot et al). Or just squat the Kroot, fuck em.

>>95904318
I always liked the metal one with the 4 robot arms, he's pretty cool

>>95904345
I like his little nose, he's a classic
I think the other day on /hhg/ someone posted a neat kitbash using that model as a base, it was gorgeous

I think my fav techmarine model might be the previous warpsmith, sad it wasn't plastic

Is it kind of weird that not every faction has all of the Librarian/Chaplain/Apothecary/Techmarine tetrad? You would think they'd all get one for equivalency.

>>95904242
Just don't have any friends.
Ez pz.

>>95904385
No. Not if you go with lore and somehow they need to be a bit distinct.

>>95904385
Which faction other than marines has it complete?

>>95904181
>>95904290
Allow me to change your mind:
This body with a bolter (or so) and mechanicus-style power axe in either hand, one blank (for chapter symbol) + one techmarine symbol sculpted shoulder pad, and a servo-arm.
Painted in red + random chapter colours would look epic as a techmarine model.
Chuck in 2-3 servitor entourage of varying loadout.

This is the most dead I've seen the general in a while.
Anyway to spark discussion: What's your favourite mission in the history of the game? Doesn't have to be 10th, you can pull something from Rogue Trader if you want to.

>>95904591
I think I would even have to go as far as the first scenario ever, in Rogue Trader. The one with the Crimson Fists and the ork-heist.

>>95904601
That's the one in the rulebook about the farm land, yeah?

Typhus is a terminator character with T7, 6 wounds, 6 S9 AP-2 D3 attacks. a good sweep and a smite that averages a bit over 3 mortal wounds
And that's still not enough to find a place in lists lmao

Dead thread

>>95904591
I don't think I have a specific favorite mission. Though I do remember a very cool one me and some buddies played back in 8th where we did a moving battlefield by shifting all terrain pieces some distance (think it was 10") while we used a bunch of vehicles and transports to keep up with the speed.

>>95904629
You guys remembered the fluff reason your group came up for that mission? That sounds fascinating.

>>95904631
It was part of a narrative campaign we were doing, just basic stuff about chaos forces invading an imperial world. It's rather fuzzy because it was almost a decade ago, but I think that particular mission was about the chaos dudes chasing down some important imperial.

>>95904613
Yeah.
Me and my buddy made a sort of mini campaign with a monster living under the hill (Bultha's Rise) using some old plastic toy, and the monster would get riled up from all the fighting and attack orks and marines alike,

>>95904129
Lmaooooooo so smol

>>95904622
Anon, Typhus is a very good fighter, but just the profile of any model isn't all that matters for their competetive viability. Their points cost is very important because even the greatest beatstick is bad if its too expensive in points. There's also the matter of internal balance, and Typhus competes with two other very good terminator characters in DG, especially the LoC who has basically the exact same role (melee beatstick) but gives out insane buffs to his unit while only being slightly worse in combat. He fits much better into Deathshroud than Typhus does.
So Typhus role becomes the Poxwalker buffer, but there's no point in trying to make Poxwalkers into anything other than meatshields, so there's no real point to taking Typhus either. Not because he's bad (he isn't) but simply because he doesn't fit in anywhere in the current meta and doesn't do anything a LoC won't do except he's more expensive and can't carry enhancements.

>>95904452
I don't think anyone but Marines have a chaplain equivalent. Except maybe imperial guard and sisters. Psyker/Medic/Mechanic are pretty common across most ranges though.

>>95904628
I'm painting so I'm kinda not focused on the thread that much

>>95904101 (OP)
>How do you think GW has handled
Badly.

>>95904663
You forgot CSM have evil chaplains in their dark apostles lol
Yes guard have their preachers. Can't remember who else has a chaplain type (aside from SoB)

18 attacks seems to be one of the highest individual attacks for a weapon, but what's the highest number of attacks a full unit could output? Back in 9th, I think Wyches had it pretty high if you gave them the right buffs and stratagems. I know from experience that Aggressors could get nutty.

>>95904628
Americans are off celebrating Juneteenth by lighting something on fire, probably

>>95904692
Their civilization, such as it is, really does revolve around, you know.

>>95904683
I was including them in Marines.
Another archetype that only seems to exist in those same armies is the Standard bearer/Ancient which several a similar motivational role.

>>95904686
A unit of 20 berzerkers in berzerker warband can do 100 attacks on the charge (5 each) plus a characters, though you'd probably want a few glaives in there which would slightly reduce the number of attacks.
A BT primaris crusader squad can also be a 20-man unit where almost every model does 5 attacks per dude.

>>95904297
My friend and I had a 1000 point game between blood angels and nids yesterday, it was pretty brutal. I hadn't played BA in years and wanted to get some old models out, so unless I accidentally had some insanely meta list, my conclusion BA are a lot stronger than nids currently.
I'd recommend genestealers, exocrines and tyranofexes to level the playing field a bit.
I cant remember what it was called but there was a unit that gave a 6+FNP to nearby units that came in clutch a good couple of times

On a related topic, what lesser xeno-races would you like to see rules for? Not necessarily minis but stats and rules in a .pdf and perhaps some ideas for kitbashing them?
I'm partial for Hrud, since they're them more-or-less most well known to me.

>>95904297
id go for the classic recognizably guys
tyrant, warriors, carnifex and gaunt spam
then +haruspex because that model is sick and everyone loves seeing it

>>95904718
>unit that gave a 6+FNP to nearby units
they just removed that ability from its data sheet lmao

FNP rolls are a plague upon the game and anything that reduces their frequency is a blessing

>>95904766
stop hitting me with damage 2 then it wouldn't take so long

>>95904727
Zoats.

>>95904727
Hrud

>>95904727
The Qorl

>>95904766
That's funny because I've rarely ever made a successful fnp roll and that's with a big unit of boyz with a painboy, that every opponent unloads everything into. The 2 damage shit is even more fucked, it's a good way to slow the game down that's for sure

How's your June vehicle coming along, /40kg/?

>>95904727
Enslavers.
They're easy to convert, you can use a plethora of other models as their slaves, and could have very interesting gameplay dynamics where you can mind control enemy units.
Other easy stuff is profiles for random xenomegafauna you're meant to convert with tyranid and lizardmen models, or customisable profiles to add other alien races as units allied to the tau empire, a unit made of large based dudes close to a marine but with less armour would let you convert tarellian dog soldiers from lizardmen, or sylvaneth models into fungus-like things, or another kind of insectoid aliens, a generic profile like that and then a generic lone operative profile with various utility options like healing, shielding, psychic protection, could give you the tool to add one galg or one nicassar or whatever else fits the base.

Imperial agents expansion is coming
I can feel it...

>>95904727
Krork

>>95904727
Khrave
40k really needs a vampire counts faction with non-imperium human serfs

>>95904692
At 7 AM? Anyone who gives a shit about that is more likely sleeping in or getting ready for work.

>>95904660
Typhus is 20 points cheaper than a LoC. I don't disagree with your post, Typhus is in a situation where DG have so much good stuff there are better uses for 90 points but that says more about how absolutely juiced up DG is honestly, because at 90 points such a beatstick with deep strike seriously entered "might as well run this guy solo" territory like he did before.
But the LoC problem is correct. I think a good fix to the whole DST and LoC issue would be removing sustained hits from the LoC and giving it to the DST datasheet when they're led, removing the 6'' deep strike. I think that would solve a ton of issues while also opening other leaders for DST.
Two keywords also just strike me as too much to give simply for leading. The standard is one.

>>95904895
I'm nearly done! Just need to varnish the thing and add a little bit of weathering

>>95904906
Mate, you'll be lucky if they still have a codex next edition.
And if they do get an expansion, it will be by gobbling up another small faction like Grey Knights.

>>95904902
This artwork always creeped me out when thinking about Enslavers. The bug in people's heads, the way they wrap themselves around your head when enslaving you, skin crawling.

>Thousand Sons only get tiny bird bots in 40k
Remember what they took from you

>>95904928
If you remove the 6" deepstrike from Deathshrouds they become a completely different unit.

>>95904942
Yeah, and I don't think that's a bad thing. I don't think DG should have essentially an unavoidable deep strike threat, I don't think it's very thematic for us. Rapid ingress, weathering some shooting and then getting stuck in seems more appropriate for me.
Maybe you could change it to free rapid ingress if done near an afflicted unit? So you keep the "Death approaches" theme.

>>95904933
Gobble up imperial knights and deathwatch, both are the inquisition's boytoys anyway

>>95904936
they could be the penultimate soup faction but we know gw doesnt want that

>>95904895
slowly
but work is letting up, so I'll probably get it done in time

>>95904343
>raven guard get their own codex
Gee I wonder what SM faction you play anon

>faction is called Imperial Agents
>faction keyword is Agents of the Imperium
Makes no sense.

>>95904956
Here's an idea. Make Imperial Agents a core books and make Deathwatch, Grey Knights, and Sisters all supplements for it. Imperial Knights should be a supplement for AdMech or Imperial Guard.

>>95905037
The faction name Agents of the Imperium has more history from the previous edition but it doesn't fit on a codex cover so they needs something a little shorter. Hence, Imperial Agents

Do you think the Emperor used the power of his captive CTan shard in making his Primarchs the same way he used gifts from the Chaos Gods?

>>95905065
No, because why would he? Chaos is stronger than the C'tan.

>>95905065
>humanity "imprisoning" a shard of c'tan
ftfy

>>95905065
>old lore

Burden of truth, nig.

>>95904895
Is done. Gonna do one of my half dozen primed but unpainted SM characters next, and then start on my stormsurge.

>>95905071
Is the Dragon of Mars free and active? I know it has a guardian in the labyrinth but I'm not sure how deep its influence on the Technocracy extends.

>>95905084
The FSE guy did it better.

>>95905070
Because he isn't beholden to either and can use both as suits his needs or whims to create something greater?

>>95904936
That isn't artwork of enslavers though anon. Very common misconceptipn but they're just some other minor-xenos that implants wasp things to mind control people. Notice there's no interdimensional portal to the warp more full grown enslavers are coming out of. Also those things look nothing like Enslavers

So where is the Legionary with Lascannon bit? Just a Havoc model?

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>95904148
sorry to tell you anon but it seems you're shit out of luck. The best course of action IMO would be to find somebody selling the bits on etsy or myminifactory etc. There is plenty of what you are looking for

Should I have Canis Rex as an ally in my marines start on board or rapid ingress in then get a big charge?

>>95905117
That isn't artwork of enslavers though anon. Very common misconceptipn but they're just some other minor-xenos that implants wasp things to mind control people. Notice there's no interdimensional portal to the warp more full grown enslavers are coming out of. Also those things look nothing like Enslavers

>>95905122
Yes

>>95904766
Sorry bro i have to slow roll these fnps on my heavy ints

>>95905171
That isn't artwork of enslavers though anon. Very common misconceptipn but they're just some other minor-xenos that implants wasp things to mind control people. Notice there's no interdimensional portal to the warp more full grown enslavers are coming out of. Also those things look nothing like Enslavers.
The Adrian Smith are is genuinely not Enslavers though, they've looked like your pic in RT and look like pic related now. Never did they look like body horror wasp alien things

>>95905133
Can't wait for them to succ the sovl right out of them

>>95905093
Didn't a random necron fleet try to break into Mars to steal it?

>>95905216
They already did that

>>95905117
Ah my mistake, always thought that artwork I posted were enslavers for some reason.

>>95904895
I am afraid I won't be finishing my trukk in time... it's my first vehicle ever and I am a bit overwhelmed. welp, I would pull down the collage anyway I guess

Do characters with -1cp cost rules let themselves rapid ingress for free or do they have to be on the battlefield to get the ability to -1cp cost themselves

>>95904216
>mods should be there to prevent illegal things like actual cp or being Canadian
>mods instead ban artist or people making fun of paypigs

haha cool I didn't want to paint today anyways

>>95905324
As long as they aren’t in a transport, yes.

>>95904936
Those are not enslavers though, but a random mind controlling bug.

Is there a full catalog of known warp beasts somewhere? It's such a a weird part of the lore that is never really mentioned outside of occasionally explaining weird minor Xenos.

>>95904130
>and Space Marines have been nerfed so many times because if they even get a crumb of 49% winrate something gets dumpstered
That's because they're the beginner army made for kids (unironically) so if they even have a 50% winrate despite all the terribad noobs dragging it down it means their actual winrate amongst real players is fucking BROKEN.

>>95905171
The only official enslaver "art" is a conversion from the rules they had back in the day.

>>95905133
Careful what you wish for. It'll probably ruin a bunch of the models.

>>95905342
We've been over this. The starter army effect is way less impactful on win rates than you might think.
You realize tournament stats already eliminate most small scale local tournaments, right? Space Marines aren't even the most popular army in tournament play.

>>95905342
That’s not entirely accurate. But then again I have a like 60% W/L in firestorm. Granted if an actual meta list even looks my way it evaporates. Just stay away from tourneys kids.

>>95905355
Questionable.

>>95905342
This is false. DG have higher presence in the tournament scene than Marines.
Good players just tend to avoid marines as they are bad.

>>95905352
Why would I care if I already own all the classic models?

shart marines win again

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/p019duoe/return-to-the-dark-imperium-with-a-new-special-edition-of-the-lords-of-silence/

>>95905349
>>95905117
>actual creature
>>95905171
>what Imperial scholar drew based on given description

>>95905385
It's got pictures and shit

>>95905349
these are all official enslaver artworks >>95905215
>>95905171
>>95905117

>>95905385
Undivided bros...
When did the poopoo marines become the face of Chaos?

>>95905368
>Good players just tend to avoid marines as they are bad.
This is true of a lot of armies, especially ones that are usually peoples side army. Custodes and Knights both get mass abandoned in the competitive scene the second their rules are bad because those people all have other armies they could play. Only die hard faction specialists stick through it for faction with bad wonrates like those handful of crazy guys who push through tournament wins with GSC, AdMech, Drukhari, and Deathwatch

>>95905394
Based

>>95905065
my head canon is that the primarchs were like 90% engineered by chaos and big E only stroke that good a bargain because
1. the gods knew of (or at least highly suspected) the coming millennia of food for the warp
2. the fact that they were "somehow" spread across the empire has a very chaotic element to it . this is also pointing at little direct human influence despite the primarchs being apparently really easy to find
3. it is to be suspected that big E made a bargain with each god individually because otherwise the chaos gods would actually have all cooperated with each other (completely ridiculous premise)

I just want to add that all this talk about lesser warp entities like the emperor is pointless since gork and mork are the mightiest gods anyway

>>95905402
When they became a starter army and got the largest army range of any chaos faction and so because the most popular by a wide margin.

He is rotting so he's called... Rotigus...

>>95905394
>>95905399
The only official art that I recall is picture related. Since it was used in the article where this >>95905349 guys are made.
Everything else I can't recall a source outside of fanart which is fine.
Granted back in the day GW had different website for spain, germany, etc and they all did random shit on their own, perhaps they are from there?

>>95905418
You'd prefer Shartalaxitus the Infenistrator?

>>95905435
>Everything else I can't recall a source
the awkward bulbous one is from rogue trader
the black and white full page art is the most recent artwork, from liber xenologis
the color one should be from an rpg book

>>95905210
Dang

>>95905453
> from rogue trader
So not 40k
>the color one should be from an rpg book
third party
Welp so the only thing we have is the sketch art and the conversion? Could be worst

>>95905513
>So not 40k
Yes, warhammer 40000 rogue trader.
>third party
Officially licensed, thus canon.
>Welp so the only thing we have is the sketch art and the conversion?
And the liber xenologis artwork, and the rogue trader artwork, and the rpg artwork.

Wasn't there an anon here doing a The Purge warband?

>>95905412
>it is to be suspected that big E made a bargain with each god individually because otherwise the chaos gods would actually have all cooperated with each other (completely ridiculous premise)
This actually makes a fair bit of sense. I reckon at the least, if he actually spoke with any of them to cut a deal, it would have been Yzeentch.
That said, I surmise that the Gods would have objected all together at this possible power rising up in a way that would be a threat, and would put aside petty grievances to stomp down on a fucking MORTAL who pretended to be a god.

>>95905540
nta. But calling RT 40k is like calling the WW1 and WW2 the same thing just because both happen in Europe.
Similar, but no the same thing

>>95905564
We're talking about an element of the fluff that hasn't been contradicted or changed one bit, enslavers exist, work like that, and rogue trader offers a potential depiction of one, there's not much to argue, rogue trader is a valid source for this.

>>95905564
Not him but no, this is some fucking meme shit peddled by retards that have never read old editions at all.

I recently reread 3rd edition main rulebook and half the fucking quotes and lore sections are practically copy and pasted directly from RT. You fags have no idea what you're on about. There have been minor changes made.

>>95905597
>>95905606
I want my human eldar hybrid and chaos GSC back.

>>95905647
>chaos GSC
This is at least alluded to in the modern GSC lore even though it doesn't have rules anymore

>>95904906
more like Shrimperial Gay Gents lmao

>>95905684
you failed

"More like SIMPERIAL agents amirite?"

>>95905326
Paint? Why would humidity affect acrylic paint?

Do you mean prime with a spray can? You can still prime minis, just leave your door open and spray the mini so that the fumes are exiting your house. That way the primer is still in your air conditioned house and the fumes exit out the door.

>>95905709
nta but I've seen entire sheets of paint shift on a car hood because of humidity in the 50% range

it affects it

>>95905713
Still shouldn't be a problem unless you're painting outdoors.

>>95905684
>>95905703
Venerial aidsmen guys venerial aidsmen...

>>95905709
it will affect acrylic paint if you're airbrushing (and dont have a moisture trap)

>>95905739
consider this

you are in a bucket zone where the moisture condenses and the air is body temperature but you sweat in the sun

that sort of weather condition adds moisture to a mix and your sheen or matte finish you aim for is scattered, has fissure lines or wont stick to the model

imagine having a dust problem but it's water... you wouldn't want to do that to your model

>>95905760
(keep) aidsmen at arms (length)

>>95905832
why is she so squat

>>95905765
>(and dont have a moisture trap)
Didn't know they played 40k on Arrakis.

>>95905862
We've been wondering that for a year now.

>>95905862
Because female custodes are only 92,1% as tall as male custodes, who instead average at 8' of height, so the unisex armor intended for someone over 7,5" inch bigger than the female custodes is loose and squatty-looking once worn.

>>95905874
I can tell you don't work with air tools much. Any air compressor naturally compresses some amount of moisture in the air and causes water to condense in your air lines. You need either a moisture trap or a dryer to filter the water out of your compressed air before pushing it through any kind of air tools, especially a paint system where adding water to the air could ruin the flow rate and atomization of the paint.

I like the space marine remaster

Yall got the 9th votann codex?

Combat Patrol is such a fucking shit show of imbalance between boxes, how they hell does anyone think GW is going to turn it into 40k spearhead next edition?

>>95905947
>how they hell does anyone think GW is going to turn it into 40k spearhead next edition?
redo all the combat patrols?

>>95905947
>how they hell does anyone think GW is going to turn it into 40k spearhead next edition?
Redo the rules?

>>95905947
each combat patrol gets a detachment rule meant to complement its problems and the overpowered boxsets get weaker bonuses as well as limits as to when their units arrive on the field
plus a deck of cards for each combat patrol, to increase the price further and give more tools to the underpowered patrols

>>95905832
Have we ever gotten a story/novel around a random citizen/soldier getting a Aquilan shield custodes?

I hope 11th nerfs a lot of damage 3

>>95905981
No.

>>95905947
Spearhead does this thing to balance boxes with more points by making you have to start some units in reserve and letting you put some smaller battleline units back into reserves as reinforcements when they die that might help out Combat Patrol.
Like make Grey Knights start their Dread in reserves and let AdMech replay their Skitarii again after the die.
They also let you combat squad 10-man units into two 5-mans for better coverage and more activations

Can Tyranids be gay?

>>95905947
Combat patrol is fine for people who are starting out. Once you are proficient enough to realise how shit it is, you can just move on to playing incursion games. Incursion is where 40k happiness exsists.

>>95905982
Is D3 even all that common? I feel like D2 is fucking everywhere and it's partly why Terminators are so good right now.

>>95906002
I've heard the game isn't really "balanced for incursion". Is it just because of big super units like Knights and Primarchs are too difficult to respond to without more points?

>>95905947
I’m gonna be honest, even if combat patrol IS good, unless the combat patrols are battleforce sized boxes, I don’t fucking care about the game mode. $170 is too fucking much of an ask to play a game. It’s why boarding actions died. They’re better off just ignoring the shitty game mode and leave kill team to fester it’s shitty “intro audience”.

>>95905989
Then we fucking should.
Could get a nice story of the custodian escorting the guy and facing all sorts of bad guys and intrigue around what the purpose of the guy to the imperium could be.
Although with how retarded are writers when making custodians, I'm sure he would come out like either an autistic retard or a pompous asshole.
Custodes are supposed to be basically philosopher warriors man... No one makes them right...

>>95905998
No.

>>95906012
>I've heard the game isn't really "balanced for incursion"
It's like all things in this hobby. Faggots can find a way to ruin anything. So, just avoid them. Problem solved. Works for non-hobby related things too.

>>95905998
Best thing you can do is get a twink imperial agents bf and have him transform into a genestealer and prolapse his shitter. It worked in inquisitor.

>>95906045
Ok ty

>95905998
Why would you ask something so idiotic?

>>95906014
I think GW cracked the code with putting underworld warbands into Spearhead boxes. "The upsell" to catch new players.
You can buy small Underworlds squad for less than the price of a videogame now and play AoS short game night edition. OR you could go just a bit bigger and have an Underworlds AND a Spearhead team. Just replace Underworlds with Kill-Team and you've got a recipe for 40k.

>>95906052
Consider the matter closed.

Thank you,

>>95906026
Or anon we have the Aquilan shield custodes guard a young women, as the second edition of Black Librarys new steamy romance novels. Dark Eldar as perfect as they are for the romance novel roll need some variety. Sure they are beautiful immortal fae, violent sadist vampires, princelings with their own evil court and literal cut throat society, and pirates who can have actual wings like an angel or demon. But readers may want to be protected by those things by a beautfil literally golden armoured bodyguard solely devouted to them. I'm telling you anons we could make millions

>>95905998
All tyranids are female, females can't be gay.

>>95906088
Do not make 40k smut bait for middle age women

>>95906059
Yes, it's extremely smart and a genuinel, good move from them, and also customer friendly (and that by gw..)
However, there combat patrol game mode is way less liked than spearhead in AoS.

>>95906091
Hive Tyrants are male actually.

>>95906003
With GSC D3 is suffering. You get D3 shot and D3 damage

>>95906091
>This again
Just because hormagaunts can lay eggs to perpetuate an infestation even if cut off from the hive that does not make them female.
Tyranid bioforms have no reproductive or sexual organs, they don't need them. FFS most barely even have digestive tracts

>>95904967
>They could be the [next to last] soup faction

What's the last soup faction, then?

>>95906120
Technically any organ that allows them to produce more of themselves is a "reproductive organ" even if they aren't having sex. Hormagaunts have ovaries.

>>95906099
>middle age women
From the terrible glimpses of the harrowing subculture known as booktok, there's lots of young women who consume this shit. Those books have no prose and are literally fan fic tier garbage that are an insult to the trees cut down to make them. It's a gold mine for us.
>>95906026
But yeah on topic its weird we have never gotten anything about Aquilan shields in the codex. Could have introduced the new High Lord of Terra with him having one as a child or something

How did catachan devils evolve to break away from the tyranids? don't tyranid creatures barely have a digestive track, much less a reproductive system?

>>95906114
If you read the older source, where we have an actual omniscient narrator rather than in setting perspective, the hive tyrant of a swarm are described as hermaphroditic and as mating with the hive tyrant of another swarm when they meet them

which makes them futa, so female

>>95906163

>>95906099
Warhammer is for everyone, boyo

>>95906155
Unfunny effortmeme made by people who legitimately seethe over an irrelevant larper like Arch. This post is equivalent to writing a whole tumblr-essay around a screenshot of a DAKKADAKKA tweet.

>>95906163
It's complicated, atrophied traits can develop back into functional apparati under certain conditions and the severing of the synaptic connection on a large scale and for prolonged periods may trigger stress responses that make the abandoned tyranids reorganise and eventually adapt to a world, if they're not able to establish a local synaptic network, reconnect with the latger hive mind and call them down or produce new ships.

>>95906171
Given that that shit is so old they didn't even have models yet, and that the Dominatrix did not exist yet, and that the lore has retconned what happens when two different Hive Fleets meet into them eating each other until one victor absorbs all the traits and biomass of the defeated one after getting to test out their forces in basically a really grisly wargame, that's obviously no longer canon.

>>95906121
Dogs of War

>>95906155
Unrelatable.

>add something along the lines of primaris size fuckery
>SM standard tac squad outselling fantasy ruining the game
more like that

>>95906197
The fact that this was the last time they ever mentioned sales figures and GW hasn't made any further comments in over a decade is genuinely perplexing. Even their shareholder reports avoid direct numbers or points of comparison.

>>95906187
>atrophied traits can develop back into functional apparati under certain conditions
this works with my theory that malastrains are closer to the original genestealer creature so it's canon

>>95906155
literally me.

Why does GW not want me to have an Emperor's Child Predator or an Emperor's Child Vanquisher?

>>95904941
I would at least post their actual battle automata.

>>95906188
>Given that that shit is so old they didn't even have models yet, and that the Dominatrix did not exist yet
hive tyrants did have models then and so did the dominatrix in epic.

>the lore has retconned what happens when two different Hive Fleets meet into them eating each other
they haven't retconned the previous case, only added another case, with no indication of whether it happens at the exclusion or alongside it

>that's obviously no longer canon
the only reason why it's not obviously canon to you is because you don't want it to be canon, which is fine, but not a real metric

>>95906241
This kinda looks bad

>>95906281
Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

>>95904101 (OP)
>How do you think GW has handled the cult legions vs the divergent Space Marine chapters?
GW did a much better job of the Chaos stuff. The Space wolves are close, but still boring.
I don't have a problem with it, though. Chaos stuff should be more interesting.

>>95906241
>mom I shat my self again

>>95906281
>It-it looks bad!
Cope.

>>95906292
Ngl. Those thighs got me…

>>95904101 (OP)
Here you fren.

>>95906320
It’s the posing and the proportions. Like
>>95906314
Says.

>>95904101 (OP)
Frenship is love!

>>95906281
Odd how we went from
>TS should have their kino HH models
to
>NGL the TS HH models kind of looked bad

>>95906266
>hive tyrants did have models then and so did the dominatrix in epic.
Anon those weren't released until Hive War in 2nd edition. You're referencing turbo-ancient lore from Rogue Trader.

>>95906340
No, I'm referencing 2nd edition, not rogue trader.

>>95906345
No you aren't.

>>95906337
Bad things are bad

>>95906331
>This models sucks!
>Why?
>Because this particular art work peice of them sucks.
Castellax Achea is based as fuck.

>>95906364
I mean it is pretty shit

>>95906364
I prefer the chicken bots tbdesu but these are pretty cool too

>>95906337
they always looked bad we just pretended they didn't to shit on the citadel team

Done with that converted boxnought for my warband of swamp cannibals (as a helbrute)

>>95906364
Concepts fine, the execution is not. Whether it’s art or a physical model. The bolter and the chassis both make it look like a third party print or a war machine knock off.

Rate the list I made with all the marine models I have laying around as a result of osmosis.

Vanguard Spearhead:

Mephiston
Sanguinor

Termie Captain
Termie Librartian with The Blade Driven Deep
Termie Librarian with Ghostweve Cloack
Lieutenant
Lieutenant with combi-weapon and shadow war veteran
Sangui Priest

10 assault ints
10 tacticals

5 devastators with lascannons
5 devastators with lascannons
5 infernus marines
10 assault termis
5 termies

Invater ATV

>>95904189
and groucho glasses

Do you think GW can still do sexy female models or only "safe horny" ones?

>>95906469
The latter, especially for 40k. It's compromised and corporate.

>>95906469
"Still"?

Show me sexy model examples from GW

>accidentally bought the same paint twice again
Bros...the LGS has a no refunds policy on paints.

>>95906469
They market to 13 year olds.

They no longer add blood to their official paint schemes or flecks of blood anywhere.

>>95906479
Wow that extra 4-5$ could have potentially netted you a $5 dollar meal deal at McDonald's. Terrible situation for all involved.

>>95906479
offer someone to buy the paint you want by trading

>>95906486
Is fast food really that cheap in the USA?
No wonder people are so fat there if true.

What could this guy proxy for? I think he looks so cool.

>>95906486
the paint IS the meal

Vanguard seems to require centurions, but what other units can take their place?
Currently, because they can't uppy downy anymore, I am skeptical of how good cents perform in the role they are meant to do. On paper, a repulsor executioner does more damage to the same targets, has better mobility, occupies a similar footprint as 6 centurions, and doesn't need a strategem. Cents do have more wounds, but they pay the same points per wounds and their survivability vs various scenarios is really different but relatively equal.

>>95906498
I'm confused he bought the paint so consume it and not for his miniatures? What exactly are you insinuating here?

>>95906494
I do not recall seeing a 5 dollar McDonald menu the last time I went there.
Everything was over 10 dollars or more. (also I like and dislike that prices in the USA are shown without tax but it always catch me unprepared to see the extra % when paying)

>>95906523
No I go to McDonalds all the time. Its their most sold item the "$5 Meal deal". You get a Small Soda a Small Fry a 4 piece nugget with Sauce and your Choice of either a Mcdouble or a McChicken.

>>95906523
most states tax is on prepared-on-demand items and non edible items

some states tax all food

>>95906528
Would you mind sharing a picture of that? Because I honestly do not recall seeing those.
Also are they really 5? and not 5+tax?

>>95904385
Dey took our chaplin

>>95904385
>equivalency
You're naive

>>95906519
this particular color tastes bad

>>95906519
>he's not taking is daily Nuln Oil shots

>>95904385
Everyone has a version of the magic, support, medic, mechanic, banner guy.
Magic, mechanic and banner are usually missing due to themes of the army or combined into one.

>>95906579
It is still really weird that Eldar don't have a medic or a mechanic (Bonesinger is legends).

>>95906539
Solid deal all around, I usually add a plain triple to it.

>>95906587
Dark Eldar do if I recall correctly.
But year Eldar have never had a medic. Mechanic went into legends and their banner dude is usually combined into their leaders.

>>95906599
huh. Wonder why I have never seen it when I was there. Wonder if the McDonald in Weston does not have it.

>>95906392
>blood angels
>not just playing LAG
Codex marines already struggling outside of gladius and you have two of the most powerful space marine detachments in your book

>looking through wahapedia
>look at all SM units
>they forgot Heavy Flamers existed on official models

wtfhammer

>>95906622
Pretty sure that kit don't exist anymore.

>>95906608
Yeah, DE have Haemonculus medics but I don't thing they have Psykers, Chaplains, Mechanics, or Bannerman either. They only have like three characters, though.

>>95905981
Not an ordinary citizen but there was a guardsmen who got Custodes protection.

>>95906637
GSC chads have all of them.

>>95906650
GSC are drowning in characters so it's not surprising they have multiples of each.

>>95906653
All things considered it was true in 2015, just didn't stay that way.

>>95906629
Doesn't matter. I believe even legends stuff doesnt have it. It cannot be fielded without house rules.

>>95906671
it might have seemed true here, a place famous for people pretending to play games

>>95906671
No it wasn't, it was true for xwing
Nobody plays historical slop

>>95906653
I hear the new BA edition has mixed reception. A shame, I've been wanting to get into it

>>95906622
>>95906674

>>95906622
Filter your supplement to blangels and they should be able to take it then

>>95906681
did they nerf germans?

>>95906523
I'm in one of the US biggest cities and mcdonalds is more expensive than actual real human food here. Fruit and veggies and fresh fish and meat markets are cheap and plentiful. Mcdonalds does regional pricing. The wealthier your neighborhood the more they charge.

>>95906686
>Cawl Cylinder on flamer
Is GW going to trademark that design tidbit? I can see GW doing that.

>>95906686
They're not primaris, sure they could proxy but they're OOP/NM models.

>>95906697
I thought the cawl cylinder would be something people like, its pretty peak admech to use a universal receiver

>>95906701
>complain about no heavy flamers
>show a heavy flamer in a modern kit
>doesn't count it's primaris
(you)

>>95906681
Did they ever release Imperial Japan?

>>95906681
Get into it anyway, no wargame is perfect and the cost is low.

>>95906622
>>95906690
>just checked, waha doesn't have it
>that's a weird oversight, let me check the GW app
>not there either
Excuse me what the actual fuck GW?

>>95906621
which one would work best with my units?

>>95906719
Weird right?
as anon said earlier proxy as infernus marines, but that's one short infernus dude

>>95906719
No model=no rules anon, been that way for a bit.

>>95906737
I would house rule that if there's a heavy bolter option, it can be the heavy flamer. they're interchange-able everywhere else.

>>95906674
>>95906719
>anons actually thought legends was safe from GW squatting things when the inevitable cull happens

>>95906737
>flashback to aberrant hypermorph and acolytes pistols

>Slaneesh has a set point when they were born
>however due to time not flowing logically in the Warp, Slaneesh can reach back before they were born and influence events then, effectively back dating their existence
>the Emperor is not a god
>but if you pray to him as if he was a god, his relics have power over the entities of the Warp, and miracles can be done in his name
>this could make sense if the Emepror was simply not a god “yet”
Will GW ever make the decision to outright deify Big E? The set up is technically already there, the Golden Throne is gradually failing and something has to be done when it does.

>>95906747
I'm still mad that some of my characters got squatted without even getting legends rules so now they're only undersized proxies for other stuff.

>>95906752
The warp doesn't do time, so any warp power can really be used retroactively its not a trait of being a god,

Being a warp god is just controling a signifigant portion of the warp

>>95906750
You have to understand anon, GW only follows that policy when it would inconvenience you specifically.

>>95906752
No, the universe will literally warp to prevent him ever getting off the throne because the vast majority of all psychically sensitive sentients in the Galaxy believe in one thing above all else:
"The God Emperor of Mankind sits upon his Golden Throne on Holy Terra"

>>95906752
Faith in the Emperor is not a Warp related phenomenon, otherwise it would have been nullified by the Pylons in the Pariah Nexus.

>>95906757
Cool, so the Dark King will exist so we should already see his agents and influence acting in the current era, right?

>>95906760
No model=no rules
Is funny because Aberrant Hypermorph and acolyte with pistol exist and are the only options being sold, but they are missing the rules for them.
Aberrant one is more annoying because rules mention them, but they do nothing with it and it is not possible to build the aberrant kit without one. So the units of ten must include two.

>>95906776
nah that prophecy fizzled. it was fated to happen on the grandest scale (tarot cards) until it was fated to never happen

>>95906730
I mean yeah but
>>95906737
It's a wargear option for tactical marines though. They still sell tactical marines.
>>95906747
It's not a legends unit though.
>>95906754
Same. I'm sad those index generic character rules didn't go to legends, and my heart broke for Gabe Angelos

>>95906752
Godhood is already a subjective idea especially with regards to the warp. What makes the chaos gods what they are is simply having the influence to say so, at the end of the day they are just really big daemons. Big E has ostensibly been deified since around M32.

>>95906781
>Is funny because Aberrant Hypermorph and acolyte with pistol exist and are the only options being sold, but they are missing the rules for them.
Just because no model=no rules doesn't mean yes model=yes rules.

>>95906787
>They still sell tactical marines.
For now. Primaris are getting a new battleline troop in the 11th edition starter.

>>95906793
They had rules in the index. No idea why they remove it but kept the name and did nothing with it.

>>95906787
>They still sell tactical marines.
Does the tactical marines kit come with a heavy flamer?

>>95906798
Yeah, I hear the bell tolling for my little spacemen.
>>95906807
The generic one no, but they can take twin lightning claws and the box doesn't come with that either. The Blood Angels box absolutely did though

>>95906807
I don't see a heavy flamer option on wahapedia, forgive me if they're not there.

So what all do we expect to get culled from the Space Marine line-up at the end of the edition? The rest of the non-vehicle firstborn at least, right?

>>95906770
it can be a warp phenomenon, just one that gets around whatever system the pylons use

>>95906824
>The generic one no
And there we go, no model thus no rules. Blood Angels box has been dead for a bit.

>>95906842
I don't know why they'd stop at the infantry. They sell predator and land raider replacements. Technically they sell Terminator replacements too, there's no reason they couldn't squat brand new models, they do it in AoS all the time.

>>95906847
Again, sergeants can take gear that doesn't come in that box though, so no model YES rules.

Why does Belisarius Cawl hate mixed loadouts in infantry squads?

>>95906842
probably everything infantry but tacticals
>>95906770
pylons close off the connection to the warp, normal psykers draw energy from the warp, but faith generates warp energy rather than using energy from elsewhere.

>>95906861
This isn't about them though, it's about the heavy flamer.

>>95906870
What's the difference?

>>95906861
>>95906870
>>95906876
Also if we want to keep it to what comes in the box, tacs can take all manner of heavy weapons that don't come in the box. The box only comes with a missile launcher.

If I use a wall of vehicles and I have infantry behind them that cannot be seen with laser pointers does that count as being unable to shoot at them?

The newer rules confuses me with the "see a tip of a finger, the whole squad can be hit" and "if it's behind another model, it doesn't count as cover unless it has a rule stating it like the baneblade"

>>95906876
GW arbitrarily decided it.

>>95906757
>>95906766
>>95906770
>>95906788
I see, well if that’s the case that godhood is just the amount of power one has/ultimately undefined as a category, then I think the ambiguity of the Emperor’s power/godhood may be better for the setting as a whole.

>>95906897
Exactly.

>soundlessly leaps out of concealment and blasts your frontline
Too subtle for you.

>>95906906
Reminds me of a regular on ye olde counter-strike server who's username was silent ninja and exclusively used the M249 to blindfire every corner.

Finished this Rhino for June collage

>>95906866
because it was useless then and it's still sort of useless today
If I take sternguard, combi or bolter there's literally no reason to use the flamer over the bolter, yeah sternguard can be surprisingly good into melee but that isn't a good delivery system for captains and I will die on this hill

>>95906207
I don't subscribe to that but I do like the idea that Genestealers were an early acquisition for whatever the Hive Mind was when it was first getting started and that much of the Tyranid genetic blueprint is derived from them, which is why they're the only ones that hybridize,why Ymgarls can do the shit they do, and why Genestealers default to the blue and purple colors after being away from a specific Hive Fleet for long enough.

>>95906940
Sexy work anon. Very nice.

>>95906948
There's lots of other factions that still use mixed loadouts and do just fine with them.

>>95906940
straight out of a parallel dimension where thousand sons got a cool wave of models.

>>95906940
My word that's got to be the best rhino I've ever seen. The bits, the paint job, it's perfect. Makes my custom rhino look like garbage.
Glad to see you're still around TSanon. You're a huge inspiration.

>>95904895
I'm beginning base coating tonight

>>95907044
I'm phoning up some guys to come rape you tonight if you don't get it done

>>95904148
Kromlech and Laserforge Miniatures make decent bits for that purpose

Who's gonna win round 2?

>>95907053
Unlucky for you, I'd enjoy it

>>95907110
Gorillaman because Fulgrim can respawn

>>95907110
Why did they make two daemon Fulgrim models?

>>95907118
So can Gulliman apparently, since Mortarion killed him last time.

>>95907126
No ones ever really gone.

>>95907122
No sharing models between HH and 40k.

>>95907126
I suppose they trade then.

>>95907122
Because retards will buy anything this company puts out

>>95907134
I'd say Horus, but they reconned that. Even Sanguinius is uncertain now.
So Ferrus Manus. He's dead AND unloved.

>>95907144
>So Ferrus Manus.
He's already been brought back a bunch of times because Fulgrim is still tsun for him.

>>95907150
I not sure Fabius Bile clones really count as the original. They don't have the Primarch soul aura to them

>>95906099
>middle age women
You fool fool you, I have met like 3 woman into this setting and I can drop the following truth nuke:
Be wary of the fujoshis, 40k has the most untapped fujo potential out of any media franchise I have seen untapped

>>95906866
Simple reason: people will buy a plasma squad, a melta squad, a heavy bolter squad etc and not just tactical squad and swap out 1-2 marines with special weapons.

>>95907184
Fujos are indeed powerful, but the worst fujos are all under 20, after that they become the library gooners

Primaris don't need Heavy Flamers.

They have PYREBLASTERS(TM)(R). They are SUPERIOR to pathetic firstborn manlet weapons. Those who cross the rubicon look down on the pathetic short dwarves that are their predecessors with autistic scorn. BURN IN THE FLAMES OF THE PYREBLASTER. The time of firstborn is over. The time of the PRIMARIS MARINE is now!

PRIMARIS ARE KING.

>>95907302
Seriously though, they do have Heavy flamers they just renamed them to a stupid primaris trademarked name.

>>95907302
>Primaris don't need Heavy Flamers.
They have those as well.

>>95907302
Trying too hard.

>>95906899
the emperors power is actually really consistent going all the way back to third edition

>>95907026
Blood Axe looted imperial vehicles should definitely look the least looted out of any Ork klan, as Blood Axes are human-weeby enough to at least put up a pretense of understanding why imperials design stuff the way they do, but this still needs to be ratcheted up a couple notches. Some random kit hanging from some of the areas that are mostly blank space, I'd have had firing points cut out in the side doors, and some camo pattern somewhere. I do like the skull glyph over the imperial eagle, though.

I actually think it's a mistake on gw's part to try to put such a large divide on 30k and 40k sharing models. I'm not going to buy a single 30k model as it stands now becauuse I don't play 30k and they don't share models, but if they did share models I would buy some 30k admech and some marines and vehicles to accent my existing 40k armies. So they're making less money than they could. And I seriously doubt I'm the only 40k player who isn't starting a second game but may have used the 30k models, so I imagine my situation is not rare.

why aren't there more combi weapons where a bolter isn't involved like a melta with an underslung flamer

>>95907390
GW didn't even do that all on their own, travel back to seventh or eighth and you'll find anons in both HHG and 40kg insisting that you keep your trash in its respective game

>>95907390
>I'm not going to buy a single 30k model as it stands now
And GW doesn't care because 50 other people will buy that shit and will just proxy it in 40k anyway.

>>95907184
Fujos don't need to be catered to. They will find the gay anywhere all on their own

>>95907206
I don't think it's -bad- for units to be that way because it's just a preference, but I always felt like the 3e+ lists for most armies following the general structure of real life squads made it feel a little more grounded in a way that didn't clash with the setting. To me it felt more like deploying an army with logical unit structure than putting down game pieces following game logic. Sure you had specialist units but the core of most armies was something like:
Squad of guys
Squad of guys, but with choice of heavy weapons
Squad of guys, but with close combat weapons and better movement or special rules
Squad of Veteran guys, with some higher stats and more weapons options
Squads of guys on bikes
Tank
Transport
Walker

I will concede it makes the factions samey if they all follow this core structure. I just have a harder time picturing my forces as an actual army when every unit is it's own special thing.

>>95907398
Probably just a leftover from when the point of a combi-weapon was a limited-use extra special weapon in the squad. Combi-specials isn't really needed, just give the weapon two shot profiles like missile launchers and plasma weapons.

I'm a 30yo female and my favorite pairing is Roboute and Yvraine because it's cute and they should work together. I don't really care for m/m pairings and I don't identify as a fujo.

>>95907478
post hole or you're larping

>>95907478
Post bobs

>>95907478
Yvraine doesn't deserve Guilliman, she's a skank. Roboute deserves a nice Iyanden lady, their colors would even match a bit.

>turns off your lights and locks your doors while you're out

what's the best way to clean a model that's been left on a desk for 4+ years and is now dusty

>>95907526

Space Marines are cool

>>95907351
Don't disagree at all, but I would mention that it works better from a non-front view because the whole top was cut out and made into a pickup truck.
It's worth mentioning that this was my first actual Ork looted vehicle, too. If I were to do it again I'd definitely add more plasticard paneling around the regular parts to make it orkier and definitely more damage all around.
Also, the Ork aquila is my favorite part, too.

>want to paint
>prep my station and sit down
>Just noticed I dont have any more paper for my wet pallette

No no NO

>>95907549
Do not become addicted to the hobby accessories, for you will lament their absence

>>95907559
>accessories
paintlet hands typed this post

>>95907549
Just use your table as a palette

>>95907537
Nuh uh

>>95907564
What am I just gonna pour water on my table? What kind of baboon do you take me for?

>>95906967
>>95906993
>>95907026
Thanks bros, I'm pretty happy with how it turned out. Here's the back, just for good measure
>Makes my custom rhino look like garbage.
Not sure what you're talking about, that's very cool

>>95907600
Wow very cool

>Want to play a gunline army.
>Like mechs.
>Like bikes.
>Like tanks.
>Like long range rifles.
>Tau has all of those.
>Still feel dirty at the thought of playing them.

>>95906587
Lorewise the Warlocks are medics because they can have psychic powers that knit you back together, but GW won't give them rules for some reason.

Bonesinger should come back, it's lame they made it Legends.

>>95907645
just play marines

>>95906650
Do they, though?

Magus is kind of a combination Librarian/Chaplain so they don't actually have a proper Chaplain.

Nexos and Clamavus are "tech guys" but not in the repairs vehicles kind of way, they're weird comms specialists.

Biophagus is lorewise a sort of medic unit at least, but he doesn't actually heal anything in-game.

The rest of their characters are Assassins, Bodyguards and Lieutenants

>>95907537
...yeah, alright, they're kinda cool sometimes

>>95907659
I have a small Primaris force from starter sets, 3e and modern CSM armies and a mechanized Death Guard army. Was hoping for non-marines.

>>95907665
Clamavus, literal preachers of the cult
Nexos are their logistic guys. Mechanics are part of said logistics
The heal mechanics is in their icons and banners.

>join crusade
>only me and one guy put effort into painting everyone else is half grey shit or 3 colour basecoated at best
>custodes power gamer and 14yo adhd kid with an entire army of bad proxies dominate
>"fun and fluffy" game mode has turned into a nuclear arms race to farm xp and build the most busted combos
>still having way more fun consistently than regular 40k
What did they mean by this?

>>95907690
I guess, but I still think that's not quite the same as proper Techmarines.
Although I'll grant you I overlooked the Kelermorph who is probably the closest to a pseudo-Chaplain with his whole "inspiring hero" schtick.

>>95907697
40k was always meant to be played as campaigns, anyone who has spent literal years of their life just doing one-off after one-off after one-off is a retard who robbed themself of the true experience. It's like they never took the training wheels off the bike.

>>95907645
Tau doesn't have proper bikes actually.

>>95907700
GSC have a bunch of sub archetypes and their vehicles are just two. Truck and ridgerunner, while lorewise it's their own crew and the cult as a whole that upkeeps the vehicle pool. So gameplaywise there is little reason to have a dedicated model for it.
Closest thing you could have is the Nexos or a the Clamavus.
Religious things are cover by Magus, Kelermorph and Clamavus. Hell even the Abominant, Iconward and Locus could count as those.
GSC overlaps a lot with the ministorum

>>95907743
>while lorewise it's their own crew and the cult as a whole that upkeeps the vehicle pool. So gameplaywise there is little reason to have a dedicated model for it.
Yeah that's fair.

>>95907714
Damn I feel called out

>>95907779
Not too late to start anon, talk to your friends about getting a campaign together. You're missing out.

>>95907302
I still think an Astartes civil war would be cool though. Gives em a chance to sell twice the amount of miniatures, and with the primarchs coming back gives a bit of "those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it" edge to it.

>>95906940
>>95907600
That's KINO, good work bud. I like the parts with the black brick(?) with the runes on it.

>>95907645
Just run eldar, they have bikes, mechs and guns

>>95907795
>I still think an Astartes civil war would be cool though
So make one with your playgroup, put Primaris havers on one side and Firstborn on the other and do your own local campaign. It doesn't have to be Official GW galaxy-wide lore, it can just be a contained thing in one region like Badab War was.

>>95907810
Badab War had a campaign book tbf but hell yeah it'd be a good time. I wonder how many players I could get for it though. I think I'd take the Index firstborn characters and brew some sheets for them though.

>>95907810
It'd go a lot like any WW2 campaign where no one wants to play the bad guys, its gonna be all germans or in this case primaris players

>>95907818
Yeah it got that Forge World book eventually but even still you gotta remember half the point of those GW campaign books is to inspire you to make your own stuff.

Also most people probably don't know this but the original Badab War lore was just a White Dwarf article from 1988 to explain why so many space marines were fighting each other back in the very early days of Rogue Trader when Marines were the only faction in the game to have any plastic minis.

>>95907720
They have piranhas

I don't get the Iron Hands. The flesh is weak makes sense when you're a lowly human with a life expectancy of 80 years but when you're a Space Marine you close to the apex of what a human can become, so cutting pieces of yourself seems silly.

>>95907854
A 2-man light vehicle bigger than a land speeder isn't a bike

>>95907885
They've all got generational trauma since emotions are the flesh and they think it is the emotions that led to Ferrus going down like he did

>>95907885
Because machines are still better, and being a larger stronger human means you can attach bigger heavier pieces of machinery to yourself.

>>95907901
So I guess it not making sense is the whole point?

>>95907885
They don't do it for entirely rational reasons.

>>95907885
>but when you're a Space Marine you close to the apex of what a human can become
Is that so?

>>95907885
They all have an autistic self-loathing and insecurity about their lack of ability to protect themselves so they cope by chopping themselves up and calling it strength

>>95907929
Thallax isn't a human just because it has a mutilated human as the not-AI

>>95907912
Yes, the current Chapter Master of the Iron Hands straight up thinks that it's a self-destructive curse and he's trying to tardwrangle his Marines. If he gets a model he might succeed.

The view is Ferrus died because of bad judgement due to emotions -> emotions weak -> emotions part of the flesh -> forsake the flesh, forsake emotions
Stronos thinks "getting really angry is good for a marine, actually" and all of the other Iron Fathers are thinking "this moron is going to get himself killed like Ferrus did due to his emotions"

>>95907912
After the heresy while the primarchs death was still fresh they decided to have a conclave and just decided all problems was human emotion and thus were going to purge all weakness from their human selves. The machine stuff is just a part of that and then they started getting too buddy buddy with the admech.

>>95907929
Thallax isn't human. It's a servitor and a parody of human form.

>admech get 5++ on everything, more or less
>Iron Hands are sleeping with the Admech
>There is exactly 1 Iron Hands character
>He is the ONLY Space Marine Epic Hero to not have an invuln at all
what did the admech mean by this

>>95907767
Now eldar? Why the fuck they lack a medic or mechanic (legend this one) is a complete mystery.
Not even their leaders, support or psyker models do either of those functions

>just realized I curbed my retail therapy to buying paints instead of gw models.
How have you lads freed yourselves if you have from this?

>>95908001
I mentioned in a prior post, I think lorewise the Warlocks do function as medics with psychic biomancy. But it isn't represented in the rules. Of all the races in the entire game, you would think the dying race desperately trying to keep its population from dwindling, and which is more terrified of death than anyone else because of Slaanesh eternally raping their souls if they don't get into a soulstone, would not be the one lacking.

Big Chicken done with Priming and ready for some paint.

He just wanted to have fun with his best friend.

>>95908033
>unscraped moldlines
>unsanded flash
>undrilled barrels
>what the fuck is that head
3/10 do better

>>95907549
uhmm baking paper?

>>95907968
FNP is so much better compared to 5++ it's not even funny
this dude dunks on anything admech brings to the table and he's one of the weaker units in a rather mid codex

>>95908040
This art sucks. Don't post art from that time period.

>>95908053
it's great
better than the thin gun art we have now

>>95907931
>>95907948
>>95907953
They seem interesting but at the same time infuriatingly retarded

>>95908053
>Don't post art from that time period.
5 years ago?

>>95908053
Kek it really does.
>that "gun"
>the fucked perspective on the axe
>neck doing a 360° angle
Who green lighted this

>>95908052
invul is much better when your a bunch of 1w t3 shitters without a space marine save

or just be an electro priest and have both

>>95907804
I bought a Deldar combat patrol but it was stolen and USPS and Ebay fucked me over on getting a refund, so I'm leery of touching Space Elves again.

>>95908111
>buying on ebay with a debit card
your fault

RETVRN

>>95908163
post your own classic kharn first

>>95908179
I wish I had one. My usual sources aren't getting me shit and I can't justify 50 dollarydoos to get a legit one 2nd hand.

pls let the specialist studio write the 40k rules too thanks

>>95907331
It does showcase how stupid the primaris weapons are. Wanna make a unit of flamers? Sure, copy the tactical support squads from 30k if you want but why does it need to be flamer+1 instead of the classic flamer? Buff flamers if you think they aren't enough but why make a pointless new and separate weapon that's barely different but just enough so the old one is completely obsolete?

>>95908002
What paints have you been buying?

>>95907478
I refuse to believe there is another F here in her 30s...

emps should have just put human brains inside ultra-mechs inside of doing gay gene experiments that he planned on throwing out later

Why do 30k armies look so much more /aesthetic/ compared to 40k armies? The models, the paint jobs, unit formations, unit composition and formations look kino.

>>95907526
>>95907534
I hate tumblr noses but the broken nose is pretty cool.

>>95908251
Unironically because of rivetcounting.

>>95908251
these look like dogshit

>>95908242
>Counterpoint
Ugly autistic women exist everywhere

>>95907549
Take the parchment paper pill

>>95908210
What is FP and RS?

>>95907885
They got buck broken so hard in instvaan that they all decided that being human is the reason why they suck and not because they are retards.

>>95907539
>ork camino
Kino

>>95908300
FP = Fire Power = Num of shots
RS = Ranged Strength = Weapon Strength

Update: I'm drybrushing terrain instead of my tank for the collage

>>95908300
FP is firepower, how many shots the gun has, RS is ranged strength, the strength of the weapon.

>>95908243
Something something killa kans. Something something baggy jeans

>>95908308
>>95908312
>firepower is attacks
man I'm glad that 30k is just a bits pipeline for 40k

>>95907885
>"The flesh is weak"
>Chopped off his limbs and replaced them with metal
>Still getting absolutely wrecked by TRUE flesh and blood pinacle of humanity
Also, how are these guys not branded traitors for throwing away their Emperor given bodies for crude mockery of the human form?
In understand replacing lost limbs in battle, but PURPOSELY removing your Astartes flesh, that the Emperor himself laboured to perfect in Terra 10 000 years ago is traitorous.

>>95907478
you know the rules

>>95908308
>>95908312
FP makes sense, but why not just S? I doubt the game hast any ranged weapon that can be used while in melee outside of pistols. I do not see a MS (Melee Strength) in those profiles

>>95908328
And so do i

>>95908329
They have rules that specifically boost S (As in the strength of the model) but not RS. I think it's just a way to save on some wording by just saying "+1 to S" rather than "+1 to the model's S". It's a little dumb but that's their reasoning.

>>95908323
admech has always been exempt from the Imperial Truth and now the Ministorum, and for that matter, so have the space marines
it's literally only the black templars who have a raging hard on for the ecclesiarch, all the other chapters may have chaplains who receive ministorum training, but their loyalty is to their chapter above all else, sometimes to the extrem in the cases of blood angels literally hiding the truth about the black rage

>>95908311
Same, I was telling myself to finish my Goliaths before starting the Genestealers but I started on the Genestealers anyway. They have minimal work left.

>>95908329
Because they don't want different stats of different profiles to share the same name. It's a bit autistic but in the end it doesn't really change anything.

>>95908343
I know that. And I get the mechanicus eschewing human flesh. But a space marine's body is the fruit of the Emperor's labour. To purposely throw it away for a metallic copy is quite insulting.

>>95908343
>admech
Correct me if I'm wrong but even in the Admech if you're to gun ho about removing your organic parts you will get the wrong kind of attention

>>95908251
the entire HH range plays it super safe so it never hits weirdo shit that divides opinions

>>95908234
Proacryl I legitimately respect proacryl for not chasing gw color tones or Vallejo historical color tones and just doing their own thing.
Also I like light bronze might use it as a metallic for plasma coils.

>>95908323
It's weird how Space Marines cannot die of old age but Custodes can

Is there lore precedent for a guard regiment using hypno indoctrination for training?
I learned about hypno indoctrination from Horus heresy inductii and wondered if the process isn’t just marine exclusive.

>>95908359
that's how Ferrus saw it, he tried to stop his sons from being retarded

>>95908382
Tempestus Scions go through hypno indoctrination.

Any good fandexes or fan shit for Malal/Malice? There's interesting stuff on 1d6chan but it's all unfinished and from 8 and 9e so I assume unlikely to ever be finished at this point.

Also I guess general "any other good fan shit not on the wikidot?"

>>95908391
This is mentioned in their codex yes?

>>95908393
Was eighth edition good or bad? If bad was it at least a fun edition?

>>95908380
Neither can the custodes. They just retire if they consider their reflexes are dropped by 0.001 seconds or some shit.
Even then I dont know if the Eyes of the Emperor are still canon.
Also Sigismund was a couple thousands of years old when he died fighting Abaddon, and he died because he was getting older.

>>95908398
I don't know but everyone who goes through the Schola Progenium does get some indoctrination

>>95908380
space marines do die of old age if they get old enough
dante was barely hanging on at 1100 years old before the primaris rejuvenation

>>95908415
Why wouldn't they be canon? They've been in every single Custodes codex 8, 9, and 10. If something in the current codex for the current edition that has not been contradicted by more recent material is not canon, then nothing is.

>>95908429
Dante was more mental exhaustion than anything else. As mentioned before, Sigismund was twice as old and still died in combat.

Don't mean to change the subject, but has a kind anon managed to scan parts of the Chaos Knights Codex yet? I'm dying to try out Infernal Lance.

>>95908442
https://vk.com/topic-209634030_53378238?offset=20

>>95908421
Fair enough. Thank you!

>>95908393
You know, with all the old art of her, and now the recent renaissance, and all the stuff showing her devoted to different gods, I don't think there's ever been art of Cultist Chan as a Malal/Malice cultist or even interacting with Malal/Maliceshit.

>>95908350
Chile?

Is there a torrent for all the 9th edition stuff? The 9th edition material in the OP is out of date. Like hell, some of the codices in the 9th edition folder are actually just 8th edition even.

>>95908323
>Also, how are these guys not branded traitors for throwing away their Emperor given bodies for crude mockery of the human form?
Nobody cares. Bionics are cool.

>>95908449
Thanks, king. May you always roll 6's.

>>95908481
no

>>95908516
>deadly demise
no thanks. My Goliaths >>95908350 haven't really been doing anything in the last few games anyway. I suppose I'm playing them wrong.

>>95908516

>>95908568
What’s his cool stat

>>95908568

>>95908574

The only Chaos Knights detachment that interests me is the cultist detachment. It's genuinely so cool and fluffy and now that all knight armies get Rotate Ion Shields by default you aren't even penalized for taking it.

>>95908574
very

>>95908609
>still don't get the 6+ fnp
>same points costs as loyalists
I want to know which designer was having a fucking giggle

>>95908578
man why can't we get cool shit like this?

Just got my EC box, tormentors or infractors anon?

>>95908699
one of each

>>95908744
Which one should the third squad be?

>>95908251
Is Marine juice still utilized in modern HH photos?

>>95908684
You don't actually want to play titans in 40k. The game already struggles to accommodate knights.

>>95908626
You can be squishier and shoot more. The buffs you get for sacrificing cultists are awesome, and if you attached a Firebrand to your cultist bricks they get a chance to ignore the mortal wounds you get for sacrificing them to the big knights.

>>95908775
Don't tell me what I fucking want to do, faggot.

>>95908775
it's still a cool thing that we can't get in the edition of "leader pistols"

>>95908251
Simple.
>Take SM/CSM
>give every chapter/legion besides Ultramarines time in the sun
>Turn BL into a cool hue of green since there's no fuckdiculous trim on beakies
And that's all it takes!

>>95908758
I meant 10 of each, don't you get two sets of the 10x men sprue? You can have 4 units of 5 but then there's the leader problem of not being able to field 2x10 of them etc.

>>95908568
Is that green and bone knight house still around in 40k? I fucking love that scheme.

What's the 1st or 2nd edition book that has the original list of first founding chapters, with the rainbow warriros and valedictors? I know OG RT did but marines were wildly different in that. I thought there was a 2nd edition one that had a different list?

I AM THE LEX

>>95908860
Luthor?

Opinion on T'au auxiliaries making a god?
I saw /v/ gushing over porn of it
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Goddess_T%27au%27va

>>95908872
maybe you should stay over on that shithole instead of infesting our threads you /v/ermin

>>95908872
there are two uses of it, narratively:
-one where it's used to highlight how the races allied to the tau will ultimately and inadvertently pervert their philosophy, attract the attentions of demons, and create a religious and cultural schism, between zealots, tau purists, pragmatists, and ethereals trying to cover shit up to mantain their status quo
-one where the newcound power of friendship creates the solution to every and all problems via a literal deus ex machina invoked to make the protagonist even more special and important

needless to say where I stand

>>95908928
>needless to say where I stand
On a pile of human skulls?

>>95907390
The fact that this happened because someone in Accounting has a stick up their ass is kinda funny in a grim way

>>95908872
It's a big load of nothing. Tau don't get major developments.

>>95907184
Every woman in his hobby is one of two
>tattoo'd hobbyist who actually plays because her ex played and she genuinely got into it
>horndogs seeing muscled up super-men making fan art of them banging 9ft super soldiers
honorable mention
>trannies who WNBAW who play tyranids or something

>recently got around to finally reading alot of the 40k books
>plenty of HH stuff, but finished dark imperium
>im a big emperors children/slaanesh fan and excited to start the new fulgrim book
>finish it
This cant be how most current 40k books are, right? Spoilers ahead but I can accept maybe the bullshit of a primarch fight having a bit of the emperor step in. But the perfect son book is literally
>oh shit I had a wet dream while praying and now I can go super saiyan!
The whole book was EC just getting their shit pushed until a happy accident, bit only after reading "and then he saw gold and was faster and stronger then ANYONE". It was stupid and fulgrim has a total of 3 lines in the book. It was so bad I actually thought they were going to let some unknown one off black Templar beat fulgrim. Just felt like nothing actually happend. Thanks for listening to my dog shit opinions. Now here's the champions box im putting together. I just need some flawless blades, and recently got my fulgrim model to put together. Im waiting to find some cheap maulrfiends.

>>95908993
>>horndogs seeing muscled up super-men making fan art of them banging 9ft super soldiers
You're out of touch with reality

>>95909008
No he isn't

When you're making bases with bits of terrain on them, do you put them down first then do your texture paint, or do you do your texture paint first, let it dry, then add the bits?

>>95909037
Dunno I use sand.

>>95908995
Any modern book with Marines in it has like a 90% chance to be "And then the Marines were rhe coolest and most awesomest dudes ever."

>>95909068
That's just primaris propaganda.

>>95909068
My LGS hates marines now. The whole primaris shit didn't help either, someone called it "a seven year civil war over whether vanilla bean or french vanilla is the better ice cream" so now all marine players get called Ice Cream Boys and heckled about it.

>>95908995
Black library books haven't ever really been known for quality.
I feel like it's dipped a bit more recently.
Half the time I swear the author never likes writing about a named character from the tabletop. Like how in Creed's last stand, both Creed and Abaddon were upstaged by OCs having their own stories and being super competent.

>>95909090
You've been spamming this bollocks for 2 years now

>>95909039
Anon, why did my power cut out three times, each time when I was trying to reply to you?

>>95909115
Cram it, Fundie!

>>95909144
He told you, he used sand.

Don't look into your walls.

>>95909037
Bits first, then texture paste

>>95909157
Then hit it with a spray primer?
That's what I've been doing, my friend says he paints the bits away from the paste then puts them in so I was curious.

>>95909037
bits, paste, prime.
Unless you're using a particular texture paint which you don't want to paint over, then
bits, prime, paste

>>95907390
or you just ignore all that faggotry and play them anyway
got 2 servitor kill teams from my box of tech thralls :^)

>>95909144
Remember.

>>95909165
I base after painting the miniature, I usually just throw brush on primer over the paste once it's dried and then paint it normally after but you don't need to, texture paste is made of paint so you don't need to prime it if you're happy with the colour

>>95909090
Feelings about the whole thing aside I don't get why GW though how it wouldn't spawn unending bitching about it.

>>95905022
I don't actually play Marines, though if I did I would probably play Blood Angels if only due to my first white dwarf being the one where Blood Angels got a bunch of cool stuff like Death Company Marines and the Sanguinor debuted.
I just think if they brought back Corvus back as a loyalist but also still a giant kickass crow thing it would be best for that to be very exclusive to them. Also they could get all the phobos(?) stuff which I am led to believe is not very popular but still has some fans so cocooning that stuff away could be healthy maybe

Genestealer cults refersh when

>>95904895
Does the Votann hover thing count, because if not I don't own any vehicles yet and will have to wait

>>95909275
All they need are their fucking limos back.
Seriously GW what the fuck

>>95909318
Similarly, I like the new Patriarch model but I feel like the old one had more of a vibe that fits the Cults. Like the new one looks too alien, I love it, but it's hard to imagine that one going native. I can easily see the old one going native and deciding ruling over a cult is a better prospect than being eaten.

>>95909275
Bro they came out like 2 editions ago, settle down.

>>95909219
Because gw was thinking more about staying afloat and primaris marines were a desperate attempt to stay afloat.
It paid off and like the Star Wars prequels it is gonna take a clone wars tier long and “well executed” story to justify them.

>>95908764
Is marine juice as good as some anons say it is?

>>95909341
I'm gonna be perfectly honest there's no way to justify them. Best we can get is them pretending they never happened and just slowly turn them back into the classics. Blood claws already started that.

new
>>95909373
>>95909373

>>95909373

>>95909359
>still coping almost 10 years later
It will not happen you fucking retard, the manlets are never coming back

>>95909332
3 editions ago
it's been 9 years

not that it's a reason to change their kits, mind you, anon is shitposting

>>95907549
I just buy a pack of cheap paper plates, use one until it runs out of space, then bin it.

>>95908329
so you can have buffs that affect strength but not shooting strength without wasting wordcount on listing exceptions

>>95904895
done
>>95905111
Bah, Sally did a great job with the text and flame art.

>>95906099
Back during the peak of Twilight, there was a fan forum that some Anons liked to laugh at and troll. They'd pretend to be teenage girls and get other girls to agree that things like paedophilia, bestiality and necrophilia were now good, because of Twilight. Retarded shit like that.

But while crawling through the threads, they found a thread from a "Twi-mom" (or whatever retarded thing they called themselves), aka a middle aged woman with tween/teen kids who were fans of Twilight, who was sharing her discovery with other middle aged Twilight fans. Hungry for more moody vampires, she'd asked her son if he had any books about vampires and the only thing he had was some Black Library novels about Blood Angels. Apparently she fucking loved them and was now suggesting them to to other middle age Twilight fans.