Despondency Edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-announcement-march-31-2025

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

Odenheimer, Gruul Aggro, Wins Magic Spotlight: Foundations:
https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/odenheimer-gruul-aggro-wins-magic-spotlight-foundations/

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>95904433

>TQ
Post cards that show your current mood.

>>95912767 (OP)
Me when I 4-1'ed FNM with Elfball

Hey guys, I’m not in here often. But these FF prices for singles are crazy. I just want to pick up a handful for my cube. Are these prices gonna drop at all? Things are nutso expensive.

>>95912767 (OP)
>TQ

Top 3 decks are about what I expected, surprised there isn't more Dimir maybe. I think the good guy is probably Mono Red, like I would enjoy it if someone with 3 magebane lizards main won the fucking thing. Also, from the new cards it's only Vivi, right? I saw someone messing with Opera Love Song doesn't sound like what we need to be doing, some youtubers memeing Yuna stuff and birds... but I knew that couldn't be real. Time flies, it wasn't that long ago that people wanted to ban beanstalk lol.

>>95912938
Only for regular versions. The borderless anime alt ones probably wont until they do a 2nd printrun. Its one of the reasons why Collectors Boosters are so expensive, the anime borderless and chocobo lottery cards can only be gotten from CBBs

What’s to stop WOTC from reprinting all reserved list instants as sorceries with flash

he's beautiful

>>95913056
I’m still not used to spoilers coming out less than a week since the last set dropped

I bought a box of FF and drafted with friends and used it to teach them, they're pretty boardgame savvy and have a base understanding of the rules so drafted pretty well
When playing my friend asked if Goobbue added a land from your deck, I was proud to answer the most famous question in all of magic

>>95913014
So the woodblock cards will remain expensive? Along with any cards with amano credited as an artist?

>>95913056
Is the idea you play it, search for a mox, next turn untap and go from there? I'm not really sure what this does in most normal people formats.

>>95913092
There's probably ways to make him go infinite turn 1 or 2.
He can't be recycled with Second Sunrise but there's some way to flicker him. His {0} lets you reuse mana rock (Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, his {-3} tutors those), his ult doesn't win game on its own unless you've stacked several of them.
Or maybe some High Tide shenanigans - he can untap or tutor Candelabra of Tawnos.
Maybe more value for Tron?

>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=70154&f=PREM
98 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=70075&f=PREM
128 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69859&f=PREM
177 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69584&f=PREM
78 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=69543&f=PREM
123 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68297&f=PREM
279 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68163&f=PREM
92 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68886&f=PREM
84 players
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=68956&f=PREM
66 players

Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...

>>95913056
Is time. Robots will rise and Insects with them.

>>95904433

>>95910667
>>95910985
It's just so weird to me that I can't sit down and play a relaxed game of... the actual fucking game. At any LGS near me. I live in a fairly rural area, the closest LGS that still even hosts draft nights is 45 minutes away.

What paper 1v1 constructed format is the most popular overall right now? I thought it would be modern or pioneer but neither of those have any traction either. It's genuinely just all commander in my area. There are a dozen tabletop gaming stores with a heavy MTG focus near me, yet not one of them hosts even a single standard/moderm night on a weekly basis. I truly don't understand, playing commander feels like playing a shitty board game to me. Even 1v1 commander just feels wrong.

>>95913056
When did you lose black and blue?

>>95913030
the "promise" that they would not powercreep reserved list cards directly

>>95913404
>the "promise" that they would not powercreep reserved list cards directly
Thunder Spirit lives on to this day.

when does stream start?

>>95913030
>sorceries with flash
lel

>>95913295
In the early 2000s I played with my friends and there was a shop right in my town of 12,000 people. Now you can't find a shop that even hosts normal games in a major city. But the game is FLOURISHING!! HIGHEST SALES OF ALL TIME!!! IGNORE THOSE LAYOFFS!!! IGNORE THAT!!!!

>>95913056
I would call you a Phyrexian for thinking a disease is pretty, but they have more class than this.

>>95912938
>>95913014
Shut the fuck up, shillbots.

>>95913071
"No, UB is not MTG."

>>95913092
Hes a 3 generic mana planeshitter with 4 abilities. If you can't figure this out you need to be fired. Into the Sun.

>>95913446
Oh, "the game" is flourishing all right. If by the game you mean a faggoty fucking game mode of "social aspects" and the most gay of all time bullshit casuals. And you know what I even AM a fucking casual. I don't want to just play in tournaments to play a paper magic that isn't fucking EDH. I want to go into my LGS, sit down with a 60 card standard deck, and have a casual best of 3 with a rando. I don't fucking get it. I don't understand why a 1v1 card game has to be a "social politics beer and pretzels" game. I'm sorry but I fucking hate games like that, it's not fun, it's not what I want to do to pass my free time. If I'm going to the trouble to make a deck, at the very least I want to not have to argue about whether or not the goal of the game is to fucking KILL your opponent. I truly hate it, so much, I hate the faggoty ass beer and pretzels environment that tabletop gaming has become. "I have kids and a wife bro I don't have the energy cor a cutthroat game" then fucking kill yourself. Just die then. I also have kids and a wife. You know what I want to do with my precious few free hours of this hobby? Actually play the FUCKING GAME.

If my wife wasn't also into magic I wouldn't be playing right now at all. I fucking hate what my local community has become. I don't even give a fuck what format we're gonna play, I just don't want to play EDH.

>>95913289
>Play cards.
No thank you.

>>95913515
I genuinely like edh... on paper.
In practice the format is flawed to its core and its players put me off from engaging with it after low investment 30-40 year old redditors invaded during covid

>>95913461
it's more magic than magic has ever been in a LONG time

>>95913030
They could make them creatures with flash but wouldn't made them good for today shit.
>>95913056
underpowered imo. Almost as good as Oko and Oko is probably unplayable today.

I can't think of an uglier card than this

Are you ready for a little... SPACE TRIP?

>>95913659
Best set of the year, calling it now

>>95913659
>>95913667
Most BROKEN set of the year. Calling it now.

>bought one FF gift bundle for 99.99€
>it's now going for 189.99€
What the FUCK happened?

i miss when this card was playable and golgari sac without an oven was a thing...

>>95913659
>nobody
>literally no one
>not even someone considered crazy
Nosewater: “FOR TOO LONG FANTASY HAS EXISTED”

>>95913651
can't believe the woke shit they're printing nowadays

>>95913659
Remember: No guns, even in space.

>>95913689
Supply and demand issues. Doesn't help that the gift bundle hasn't even come out yet, or only just recently came out

>>95913056
>Buy product
>Then get excited for next product (you are here)

>>95913659
It's just gonna be another Duskmourne, where half of the art is shit, the other is great.

Anyone playing the Arena Direct?
these boxes are worth a lot more than usual

>>95913742
Should I even open mine? I don't have a card box

>>95913780
>these boxes are worth a lot more than usual
Anon I don't know how to tell you this

How good is this video's ranking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcJzavL7KgI

>>95913659
>>95913774
This will be the Duskmourne of this year indeed. I already tremble of the stupid bullshit they will be printing in this set.

>>95913799
aren't FF Collector Booster boxes going for absurd amounts?
especially vs the usual boxes of Duskmourn or Aetherdrift or whatever these things have as prizes

>>95913659
Is this the power rangers set?

>>95913874
Power Rangers are next year. You know some nose in JOTC is cooking up a Dragonzord vehicle card and Lord Zed commander

Honest question. Which of you guys are paying 1000+ for a collector's box and why? Is it worth it? Isn't it just investors selling to other investors at this point? You need a real collector at the end of the day to be holding the bag right? Who's gonna do that?

>>95913423
there is a stream?

>Casts for GW
>Destroys any nonland permanent
>Instant
why does this not see more play?

>>95913404
They said they would not reprint "functionally identical" card. There was no mention of powercreep.
>Add Cycling 9, it's functionally distinct
WotC could easily weasel out of it even assuming they're actually obligated to uphold their word (contrast the 400000 times they've backpedaled on promises of theirs when they thought they could make more money from it). They just don't want to and the RL is a convenient excuse to trick retards into thinking the game's cardboard has value.

>>95913991
which abzan deck you think should be playing this? spoiler: there are no abzan decks

>>95913907
its a waste of money until it isnt then it will flip flop between those 2 states
such is the fate of cardboard collecting

>>95914025
>abzan
Anon, it says right there you can cast it for GW. You're playing it in a selesnya deck.

>>95914051
very funny

>>95914051
>it says right there you can cast it for GW
no, it does not

>>95913659
> a 2006 Honda Civic is perfectly fine
>guns is the line that breaks fantasy

>>95913659
Go Go power rangers! tu num numnumnum

Ok, I have to admit this might be a set I m excited about, not because I think it is a good Idea but because I have to face the harsh truth that MTG is dead and going into a prerelease of a space knockoff mtg game sounds cool.

But I will wait for spoilers, If 80% isn't aesthetically cool I will not be thrilled to give it a chance.

>>95914120
Who are you quoting?

>>95914150
someone at wotc

>>95913515
Your argumentation is a disease and it's the very disease that killed the game dead. Nobody cares what YOU want. YOU, you may be surprised to learn are not the center of the entire fucking universe. If unfun mechanics are permitted to flourish, only a tiny sliver of rich idiots get to enjoy the game. If that shit is put in check, EVERYONE but them gets to enjoy it. The choice is clear, and JotC, like any government-run entity has chosen the wrong path.

>>95913617
Yes, you can claim your free Dairy Queen coupon now.

>>95913689
Stop talking. Nobody is buying this catshit.

>>95913907
I want a chocobo, not the gold just a neon.

>>95914278
Have you tried not being poor?

>>95914364
Not going to work, faggot. Enjoy your dead company. The jewish/feminine shaming tactic is a failure and a monumental one at that.

>>95914364
Jewish hands typed this

>>95914380
Well if you're so smart how come you're still poor?

>>95914386
If you're so smart, why is your company failing?

Bets for any root deck getting into top 8?

>>95914402
My company is doing great that's why I can afford overpriced cardboard.

>>95914413
No it isn't. You can lie to your shareholders all you want. I'm not one of them.

Also the reserved list is getting destroyed.

>>95914364
thats what ygo niggers say and its the community with most black people and spics of all
a white man spends money wisely

>>95914426
Are you a shareholder of ANY company?

>>95914428
It's not what humans say. It's what shills and bots say. It's nothing but a sad attempt at a marketing technique. It worked on boomers because they were batshit insane and felt they had to "keep up with the Joneses" but literally nobody feels that way anymore and it's now nothing more than a sign that boomers are programming the bots and all these companies will be dead in a few years. Good fucking riddance.

>>95914439
Done listening now, go away bot.

>>95914446
Found your problem. Get out of 4chan and go make money, anon.

hopes and dreams: someone managed to build the anti red deck and wins it all

I make money but instead of spending it on real Magic cards I spend it on gay dragon pornography. So far I'm happy with my life owning only one real Magic card.

reality: 4 cutter decks AT LEAST in top 8

>>95914466
Omniscience prevents that

>>95914466
That's the opposite of what we want because then Gavin will say this is proof red doesn't need bans, and validate Davis calling everyone lazy (even if red has a 55% winrate against the deck overall).

>>95914485
>instead of spending it on real Magic cards I spend it on gay dragon pornography
what's the difference?

Red isn't oppressive, you just can't slot against it because you'll autolose against combo. Nerfing red won't change the meta as midrange and control can't beat combo, it will still be red except omniscience will gain a larger share

>>95914521
If you destroy red decks with at least 5 bans i can assure you the meta will change. Red is OPPRESSIVE as fuck that's why even with the Cutter ban Red is still a problem with Mice, Nemesis, Slickshot and Rage.

>>95914574
No it won't. Red will still be the fastest deck and you need a fast deck to go under combo, you'll still end up with red. You'll still have FOMO, you'll still have slickshot showoff, you still have that phyrexian goblin etc etc

>>95913780
lol these are easy. first try.
should I farm a dozen of these this weekend?

>>95913659
hat set for black lesbian space rangers

>>95914588
>Red will still be the fastest deck and you need a fast deck to go under combo
Maybe but at least will not be as oppresive i will be allowed to play other stuff if they kill the mices, rage and the cutter

>>95914314
>Stop talking. Nobody is buying this catshit.
Check it yourself, cardmarket price is at 170€+

>>95914588
You don't even know how this fucking game works. You were born in the cancer, molded by it.

>>95913276
Go bother your friends instead.

Why is this guy so obsessed with Brazil?

>>95914691
You are aren't replying to no one so I don't know who you're talking about.

>>95914691
I think he's a huemonkey projecting

>>95913659
you cacn be ironic about any set you like and claim it's bad
but I've seen Aetherdrift, and it's not possible for any set to ever be this bad

>>95914620
They thought that Buzlightyear movie would be good and didn't bothered to change the main character. LMAO
>>95914691
Because of the women there.

>>95914727
kek yeah no one cares this much about brazil except brazilians themselves

>>95914485
>only one real Magic card
Which one is it?

>>95914278
>EVERYONE but them gets to enjoy it.
I don't want EVERYONE to enjoy it. I want to gatekeep a hobby of competitive cardboard gaming that is near and dear to my heart. "Just let people have fun" types ironically sucked all the fun out of the game for me. A game that was MY community before.

>>95913555
On paper 4 player free for all legendary-led singlton decks does sound fun. Unfortunately, it's never a free for all, and it's never actually fun because the people who flock to it mostly do so because actually trying to win games is intimidating for the type of uber faggot that invaded nerd spaces in the 2010s

there is no stream today is there

Bros actually i'm hyped for Space set.

>>95914588
>>95914574
But but but uncle Gavin Verhey said white now has le heckarino POWERFUL WHITE CARDS now. Wasn’t there posed to be powerful white cards??

>>95914848
>and it's never actually fun because the people who flock to it mostly do so because actually trying to win games is intimidating for the type of uber faggot that invaded nerd spaces in the 2010s
It's one thing trying to win, it's another thing completely when the game is so cancerous that you have to actively seek to not play cancerous shit so that you can actually PLAY the game instead of doing flowcharts like an autist who has no concept of the existence of other people

Like what's so appealing to play the i-win stuff and winning? There is no stimulation, just the same type of shit goonmander retards do when they spam 6 gorillion token unto the field believing they actually did something
Actual tryhard retards and normies, which are both on the same spectrum of cancer, have ruined games in general because you have to """appeal""" to their rotten goldfish memory brain or else it won't make money.
Most "nerds" are even bigger more faggotrocious normies than most normies.

there is no space set is there

>>95913404
They said they wouldn't do "functionally identical" cards. That means they're not going to print "Time Wander" that is Time Walk but has cycling 4

Any famous pros not playing cori in the pt?

>>95914960
yeah, me

>>95914949
That's not even true because tons of RL cards have functional equivalents or direct powercreep now. It's just that they're all cards that are dogshit so nobody cares about them.

>>95914968
Based anonimous pro tour poster.

>>95914960
I don't think decklists are public yet, only percentages but maybe I'm too dumb to understand this magic.gg website.

>>95913289
>Always design Thalia

>>95914588
Turn 2-3 combo can just outrace fast decks
That's the natural evolution of the meta

control and interaction and slow combos are all unplayable. There is nothing in the whole meta that will deal with cori steel cutters on turn 4+ so all you can do is be faster than them

>>95913659
Are they showing anything at magicon today?

>>95913659
I can tell that these are black women even under the suits

>>95915297
Not fat enough.

>>95913454
No I’m dead serious. It was a question asked from a point of good faith. I have no idea and don’t want to shell out hundreds.

>>95913824
Anon even if you go 7-0 you won't get the box

>take Magic rules
>make new card back
>call it Universes Beyond
>throw in any IP you want
>go to space, have guns, completely rewrite any lore
>reset power level on a fresh slate, print whatever you want without 30 years of card baggage
>people deeply entrenched in Magic aren't ass blasted by changing of the tone or addition of outside IP or nonfantasy stuff
>sell twice as much product when your 2 different games based on the same system both put out 6 sets a year
>make UB haters glad that you've contained the UB
>make investorfags foam at the mouth at the chance to buy the UB Alpha set and hold for 30 years
>make newfags have a fresh clean slate perfect for jumping in
>make corporate suits cream themselves at with double profits
>make neckbeard LGS owners thankful to have another solid product to keep the lights on
Wizards of the Coast unpaid intern, take this idea and run it up the chain. I know you fucksticks lurk here. Unapologetically steal this idea and take all the credit for it, you have my blessing. Get this idea to Rosewater and then get it to Rosewaters boss.

EOE basics.

>>95915383
is there a stream? The twitch channel is still showing games

>>95915383
Where can watch this live?

I 50% like this and %50 think it's ugly as fuck

beast

SHOCKLANDS IN EOE
I REPEAT
SHOCKLANDS IN EOE

>>95915420
I hate it.

>>95915417
>Ward 2
yuck

>>95915415
The font of the card's name ruins it. Everything else is great

where are all these reveals being shown?

>>95915417
yes. that would be an uncommon.

>>95915372
The point of UBs is that you can play fortnite in mtg with mtg characters and design UB cards that can be meta relevant so that mtg players buy them.
Also, it would cost a lot of money to copyright/brand, relicense and print new stuff, plus i doubt UBs would sell if they weren't attached to the mtg brand, so that's why they haven't done it.

If you begin to realize that modern (card) games aren't developed for people who like playing games and crossover are just meant for quick cashgrabs from outsiders, you start to understand many things.

Shocklands are now in Standard
This is not a drill

>>95915431
nonstreamed panel at magiccon las vegas. it's showing some cards and the new mechanics n shit. VOD will go up later

>>95915439
Lmao why does it matter when Monored is the best deck that already wins on turn 2

>>95915439
>guys, standard is a bit too fast. can we slow down a bit
>the wotc response

Domainbros, are we back?

>>95915443
dafuq so how do I watch it and everyone else gets to watch it

>>95910881
Told you guys my grandma was right

>>95915464
leyline rotates with this set

>>95915415
Weird to have the name in the middle, and the font is bad, but I guess it's one way to play around with the framing.

>>95915465
you watch it later when they post the VOD. people are posting whatever is getting posted to Wizard's twitter/bluesky account or images posted to whatever personal blog with personal images, you only get to watch these things in person

>>95915439
Asymmetrical Shock lands some enemy some ally so you can't get an entire set of space themed shocks?
What were they thinking...

>Shocklands in Standard
Pioneerbros... I don't feel good about our format coming back...

>>95915439
>take 2 damage
>die even faster to cori
gg wotc

SPACE

>>95915439
3 are enemy colors.
2 are ally colors.
Yet all colors show up equally.
The planets name.
Enemy:
WB:Starshadow
RW:Kiln
GU:Granove
Ally:
UB:Lammuat
RG:Aqqat

>>95915494
So it's an creature after it has 7 charge counters?
The wording is a little shit

Sets legendary token minority.

>>95915494
>legendary tutor artifact that becomes a creature with counters
>gives legs indestructible
>>95915507
>3cmc 2/4 with landfall damage and card draw
these people really do not know what the fuck they are doing

>>95915516
>down on (((their))) luck
Final Fantasy is the last good set we'll ever have that isn't filled with this trannyslop

>>95915494
>bastard child of crew and level up
Sorcery speed only seems like the mechanic is dead on arrival for constructed, unless there's some really pushed ones.

>>95915507
>landfall
Yeah that RG landfall shell they made in FF is the designated meta deck after the bans

>>95915494
>only as sorcery
oh my god FUCK OFF

>>95915518
And you fags wonder why weebs avtually bought FinalFantasy when JotC will barrage you with whatever the fuck this is

>>95915415
>name in the typeline
>typeline in the rules text

>>95915542
ok this this art rips

How is /edhg/ taking the news.

>>95915551
That's the big problem here, if it's only on regular lands I guess it could be fine? If the typeline is anything other than 'Land' it's awful

>>95915555
thread is dead atm honestly

>>95915512
So you can tap a 4/4 this turn and the same guy the next one and it works, right? Yeah it's strange, looks like it can be a huge tempo blowout.

>>95915556
>it's another dark crystal variant

>>95915415
is mutavault an extra sheet card or EOE standard playable
standard doesn't need RDW to get another pushed manland

>>95915556
Unironically darkness crystal mogs this one, if not for the cost reduction alone

>>95915566
>whenever a creature YOU control dies
It's a grave pact variant, anon.

>>95915566
>>95915578
It looks more like a grave pact to me.

>>95915555
Now that vehicles can be your commander when can other legendary permanents become your commander? Or even legendary sorceries.

>>95915518
>another 2/4
they really don't want creatures dying to damage or battle do they?

>>95915518
>>95915516
Come the fuck on

>>95915439
>>95915472
Can we appreciate for a second that wizards is:
1) giving us some of the best 3-5 color lands support in standard since ravnica/ckhans
2) premising ALL of it on losing life
3) pushing aggro out the fucking ass at the same time

What a horrible fucking recipe
You can play a 4 color omniscience combo right now with abuelos awakening, invasion of ergamon & marang regent. And it can kill on turn 3 in a significantly high % of games.
But oh holy fuck do you have:
>thran portal painland
>starting town painland
>dual painland
>now SHOCKlands fucking hell

FUCK AGGRO
GIVE US 27 STARTING LIFE IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THIS SHIT UP

>>95915555
Does it even matter that much? There's like a dozen legendary vehicles and only a couple are multicolor slop. They'll probably be waiting for whatever comes out this set.

>>95915597
Play real omniscience.

>>95915597
Shocks+verges alone would fix your mana. No need to run all the other painland shit

>Shocklands in Standard
So it's official? Can we erase Pioneer now?

>>95915494
Legendary matters? I see it coming: legendary levels on par with FIN.

>>95915609
>3 colors
>c*mmander set
get this shit out of the thread

>>95915609
>ANOTHER Jund land matters commander that lets you recycle lands from the gy
Daring today arent we

green in the TOP 17 of the latest event
standard is saved

>>95915609
>Insect Druid
>Not even an alien
Insectbros, the winds are in our favor!

>>95915531
>>95915547
seems like it will be balanced around playing retarded power cards like Rot-Curse Rakshasa, Anzrag, Tifa, Hazoret, Hammerskull, The Ancient One, Mindskinner, Last Ride, etc and therefore be totally unplayable with NORMAL good creatures

This is a major design fail imo
Vehicles work because you CAN play them with normal creatures. Turn 2 bankbuster -> turn 3 trespasser was a great standard play, you didn't feel bad crewing it, it could attack OR block right away.
Imagine you have a turn 2 caustic bronco and play the seriema on turn 3. You can't mount it, you only get 2/7 of the charge counters if you station it, you can't attack or block that turn if you do.

So basically that's going to relegate these cards into shitty combo strats with cards like The Ancient One.
Yeah you have a 2 mana creature with 8 power that can't attack or block, but holy shit it stations all your spacecraft in one click!
and then you've spent 2 cards to get a 5/5 flying bing bing wahoo

>>95915648
>Zur
Too strong I reckon. They should ban Overlords

>>95915609

>>95915657
Cute lil guy, but >>>cumhander. Hope they make a main set version

>>95915657
ROBOTOS INCOMING
ROBOTCHADS RISEEEEE

>>95915518
>>95915516
"their"

>>95915439
>>95915615
not only that, they will only rotate out when the first set of 2028 comes out

>>95915657
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

>>95915610
shocks + verges won't give you a reliable 4-5 color setup
at 3+ colors you really need to have thran portals & starting towns
even fabled passage doesn't work because you need basics in your deck and have taplands turn 1-3

decks like legendary tribal can play an insane
>4x thran portal
>4x starting town
>4x secluded courtyard
>4x plaza of heroes
>4x cavern of souls
>+ some duals

>>95915608
We went over this the other day

>>95915494
Will there be a new colorless 1/1 pilot token with "This creature crews, saddles and stations vehicles, mounts, and spacecrafts as though its power were 2 greater"?

>>95915572
>8 lines of text turned into a textless variant
Arena players stay winning

>>95915709
So is black mana supposed to be energybending or something

lol fucking gay trans shit. Space tranny captains. Lol way to confirm that anyone who isn’t straight is not of this world and should be banished to the cold void of space.

>>95915709
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>95915609
>non-token
yawn

>>95915696
>thran portal
Isnt this rotating soon though? Youre going to be stuck with starting town

>>95915709
>They're bringing back ally tribal
>For the fucking Avatar set
kek

>>95915709
And this is why UB faggot enthusiast should be bullied hard.

>>95915730
Not enough niggers yet.

>>95915739
Well more importantly invasion of ergamon rotates so you wouldn't have a reason to run a slop pile of colors in reanimator or abuelo strategies anyway
so combos like this will be out the window
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noCI6zY74zA

>>95913056
>3 CMC walker
>artifact matters
That's already two red flags also he is colorless so you can put him in every decks. This looks like a card that has the potential to break a format.

>>95915709
nobody is 4x bending in one turn no matter what the fuck bending is

>>95915709
everyone went crazy for this show back then
i personally didn't really care for it

>>95915518
>>>>>>>>their
We had a good thing with FF having none of these freaks there, fuck.

>>95915655
well yeah, up the beanstalk is getting banned in a few days due to its well established status as a cheap and easily abused value engine
no other changes needed since the meta is still adapting to newer cards

>>95915790
This will make a Legends shit viable right?

>>95915778
my guess it's kindalike like crime and based on the back of the card it's
Waterbend = whenever you gain life (white)
Airbend = whenever you draw a card (blue)
Earthbend = whenever you place a +1/+1 counter (green)
Firebend = whenever you deal (non?) damage

Aang does 2 damage when he enters

>>95915765
Never judge a card just on its inputs, look at its outputs
On most board states he will do nothing but;
>t3: tutor a 1 drop
>eat a single attack and die
He doesn't even trade with an attacker and dies to a 1/1 token
What can you possibly untap in standard? turn 2 sylex so you sweep opponent's 2 drops?

>>95915799
With Serah and Ardbert from Final Fantasy, its a big "probably"

>>95915800
The memory issues would be insane if these are different AND they have triggers with no text
That would mean you have 8 different abilities in a single mechanic

It could just be as simple and retarded as:
>Firebending 2 (the first red spell you cast on your turn costs {RR} less}
>Whenever you cast a red spell you firebend

>>95915725
genderbending, because it's gay.

I don't trust you faggots.
You said pic related will be a meta warper and you lied to me.

Haven't been able to watch yet, but is the Pro Tour as grim as I think it is?

This might be worst Standard of all time.

>>95915838
7 mana might as well be 15 mana

Next year sets are Lorwyn Eclipsed and Secrets of Strixhaven.
Rumors has it Kithkin are going to become bearded underground dwellers.

>>95915838
It warped Nicol Bolas's meta.

>>95915838
To be fair, every tron deck in modern runs 4 of him now. Might not be a metawarper but you need 4 copies JUST to play big mana decks

>>95915845
The worst standard so far

>>95915845
42% of Izzet shit.
Think about it.

>>95915854

>>95915838
The problem is it's hard to know what is actually good because everything revolves around RDW. Once people no longer lose turn 3 almost every game, then we'll see what's actually good.

>>95915864
We need rat tits and bans on red cards. Only then will Standard be playable again.

stoooop I hate this ff just released

>>95915870
>>95915854
If they reprint birchlore ranger, timberwatch elves and welleisher im gonna cum

>>95915872
RDW and izzet prowess. Cutter needs to go before we'll see any meaningful changes. Same as that ...mouse? Or whatever that does like 10 fuckin trample damage on T2-3

>>95915854
>Secrets of Strixhaven
Maybe this'll be the first rotation of standard where insects get two lords at once (the other being Swarmweaver).

Will shocks even do anything with no fetches while fastlands are legal? By turn 3 the game is usually already decided and way fewer cards these days care about land types.

>>95915854
>>95915870
This art compared to the tranny shit isn’t even close to comparable. What’s the fucking deal?

>>95915888
You need manifold and slickshot showoff to go unironically, but then you'd have to ban Omniscience/Abuelo's, Beans AND TTABE if you want meaninful changes

>>95915900
yeah honestly just scrap it all and start over at this point

Now that the dust has settled, what do we think of the new limited format?

>>95915858
1. tron is less than 3% of the meta so it's not even that relevant
2. tron decks don't actually need a playset, most decks run 2 copies and a few run 3

Reprint it you cowards

>>95915913
Might help for digital limited where it's your pod vs the world and somehow all your opponents managed to queue up with 7 disabled children feeding them pick1s every turn and you somehow got the Hall of Fame practice pod

>>95915913
oh boy now you can get the bonus sheet bomb rare/mythic AND the pack 1 pick 1 in the same pick

>>95915801
>standard
I wasn't talking about standard anon. And even in standard you could do something like cast Irencrag t2, t3 land cast Tezzeret untap Irencrag and have two mana open. Most likely not strong enough in the current meta but still a possibility.

>>95915932
you can say you can do anything in standard but it doesnt matter when Mice kills you on turn 2
3 mana is too expensive

>>95915572
we are getting white bordered again?

>>95915494
>Station
Well, it would not be bad if there were abilities to remove the counters from the card instead of it being a static ability to become a creature. It is just different vehicle. Not a fan of it.
>>95915507
>Kavu
YEY!!!!!
>Pilot
Congrats on ruining it.
>>95915516
Stop with those archetype uncommon legendary creatures already.

>>95915762
Like what the fuck have they done to this game when this happens in standard? This level of incompetency should have all the playtesters and designers fired

>>95915494
>we heard you hate vehicles so here's some new vehicles in your vehicles

I wonder how many hat sets they've already designed that we're gonna suffer through and hate while WotC thought they were so smart to make all this garbage

This space set is gonna be as annoying as 80s Ghostbuster and Wacky Races

>>95915926
That's how limited works on arena. You draft in a pod, but play against everyone.

So next year only 4 sets?

>>95915572
>I destroy the giant collapsing star with my tiny heywire mite
Is this the lorewise largest enchantment ever printed?

>>95915965
???? that's a slow turn 3 kill
Standard kills on turn 2 a lot of the time now thanks to splash portal and leyline of resonance

>>95915968
You sure said it, Sis! We really need more of this >>95915709!

>>95915913
>Need to make an official smaller draft format because people have trouble getting a normal draft pod at their lgs

>>95915965
EDH happened and WotC listened to them

>>95915913
FASTER WE NEED THE GAME TO GO FASTER

>>95915975
4 in first quarter 10 total

>>95915981
>official sets are 60s Star Trek themed-planets
>the other sets are Funko Pop slop
Remember, that we once lived...

>>95915913
Makes sense, digital needs this

>>95915494
>>95915547
>>95915654
POWERFUL

WHITE

CARDS

>>95915996
>10
>10
>10
>10
>10

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK?

>>95915972
Yea, I was being facetious. I hate the your pod feeds, you fight the world because you end up fighting everyone who got paired with idiots and just fed someone an invincible deck.

>>95916005
in 2027 it will be 12
imagine, one set per month
the horror

>>95915984
This, but unironically.

>>95915965
Remember those are the same people who thought a format with field of the dead, Oko, Uro, Omnath, pre errata companions and all the other cards banned during that period was totally OK.

>>95916015
Well i'm officially out of this fucking scam.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/planeswalkers-guide-to-edge-of-eternities
The plane is called the edge.
The Edge is donut shaped.
The Edge is stuck between the Chaos Wall and the Quiet Wall.
The Quiet Wall is entropic.
Most ships use nuclear moxite reactors.
The universe has a primitive understanding of magic.
Faster than Light travel uses a planar bridge equivalent.
The Edge has no contact with the multiverse.

>>95915609
Welcome to planet Jund, we sacrifice stuff.

>>95916024
>The Edge has no contact with the multiverse.
>full of trannies anyway

>>95915762
This is the type of shit that single-player roguelikes should devolve into. WotC having to compete with video games has killed MTG because the social aspect of it took such a backseat.

>>95916024
So people there are living... on the edge.

>>95916024
>The Edge has no contact with the multiverse.
Until now!

>>95916024
The Edge is getting ready for a spear
BY GAWD ITS EDGE. EDGE NOW HAS A STEEL CHAIR
IT’S PANDEMONIUM

>>95916024
So this is where Bolas comes back into the story for no reason (again) to be forced as the ultimate bad guy for no reason (again), right?

>>95915556
Shit.
>>95915572
>Textless new cards
Are they fucking retarded?
>>95915609
>>95915657
If they made those commander shit standard legal then people would give a crap about it.
>>95915673
Why are those JoJo villains in a car with "For all the players"?
>>95915709
>Not WURGB
One fucking job.
>The colors represent the bendings
Don't care, it is MTG and not Avatar the gathering.
>>95915799
3 mana to tutor a card.
>>95915854
>Lorwyn
fucking human looking (proportions) elves
>Kithkin are going to become bearded underground dwellers
Hahahaha I don't doubt it, they like to fucking shit over their beloved planes/settings
>>95915877
>Secrets of Strixhaven
Nobody cares
>>95915913
>Make draft less complex for stupid people
It doesn't surprises me one bit.

You know what? Fuck what Wizards are doing with Magic now... I'm just about to say just make them do all UB shit now instead. This shit is fucking depressing.

>>95916099
>the UB sets feel like more natrual planes of old than current Amusement Park Plane where everyone everywhere has the same hat, outfit and beliefs
MTG has never been so MTG as the FF set

>>95916124
If they just stick to fantasy UB settings, then I'm all for just doing UB now. I've given up now.

>>95916099
Magic = Commander now.

>>95916124
ff is full of weebshit art which is worse than same hat, outfit and beliefs

>>95916167
>look at me im such a cool normalfag, I hate anime
>btw i play mtg but im cool I got frosted tips
animefags are above /tg/ posters in social hierachy, you tremendous faggot

>These FF retards trying to gaslight people to think FF is actually not a fucking disaster pushed by Scaplers and Stock retards.
I can't laugh hard enough

I paid 100 bucks for my waifus card and I'm happy, this is my first magic purchase outside of gems on arena

>>95916216
My waifu? WTF? Are we YuGi now?

>>95916167
It looks more "Magic" to me than whatever this space shit is.

>>95916216

>>95916174
What the fuck are you talking about, tranime is lowest common denominator normalfag shit and has been for over a decade. FF7 and 8 were two of the best selling games on the playstation, the first ultimate normalfag console.

>>95916224
Yep, cast those Insta ramens faggot and turn on your brain.

>>95916174
>hello fellow Magic players, aren't those animeposters so cool?
go back

Someone post the Nosewater tirade about how he hates traditional fantasy settings and tropes. That right there is the justification for why JOTC hates traditional western fantasy and caucasians in general. And it’s why we now have Jewniverses Goyond and outer space.

>>95916224
Agreed. Whatever the copers gotta do to cope. FF is way more fantasy based than the tranny space set. The next set that’s fantasy based isn’t until next year. Saves me money.

>>95916221
Surgefoil is gorgeous innit

>worse lightning in the set
o

>>95916249
That Japanimation faggots are so un-radical bros, not like us cool mullet wearing manly men. Let's all listen to Motley Crue and play with cardboard, like a dude!

>>95916278
it's ok

>>95916278
>Lightning
>waifu
explain yourself right now, she has NEGATIVE ass.

>>95916288
I got 3 other lightnings, one with the unique borderless, normal and normal borderless

>>95915516
Anyone who was excited for this set is a complete fucking retard. Wasn't this shit directed by the guy behind Aetherdrift? I can only pray Return to Lorwyn is good and not pozzed to hell and back.
Good to know this set, possibly Spiderman, and Avatar are gonna flop leaving only Tarkir and FF to be the most successful sets of the year.

>>95916327

>>95916278
could proxy it for 5 bucks

>>95916324
flat

>>95916024
States of the Edge
The Pinnacle is an alliance of spacefaring species. It has no money and they instead use clout that they call "Mallowmass" as currency.

The Illvoi Bloom are a species of humanoid jellyfish from a gas giant. They have the technology to transform gases into solid structures.

Monoism is the religion of the Monasteriat. Its rival religion is Summism. It's congress is made up of monks. The first and most holy supervoid of the Monoist faith is the Lip of Susur. Most Monoist are human. The Immortal Faller is their Saviour. The Seeker and the Well is HIS auto-biography. The Plummet Record is the bible of the Monoist. INEVITA is their apocalypse that they wish to happen. In other words they are an entropic death cult.

The Celestial Palatinate is multispecies multiracial state made up of mostly humans. It is a monarchy under the command of divine emperor, the Regent Maximum Taman IV. Summism is the state religion. Cosmogrands are Royals each ruling at least one world. Common titles are Knights and lords. The Sunstar Free Company are mercenaries who carry out the emperor's will.

The Drix are a species that can travel faster than light via weftwalking. The Drix Concordance allied with the Fomori in the Fomori-Eldrazi war.

Mechans are made up of nonsapient drones and Sapient androids. Viys refers to artificial intelligence.

>>95915877
>RETURN TO BOOTLEG HOGWARTS
How much longer til the DEI crap at WotC gets abandoned like so many companies are doing now?

>>95916338
this set is already infinitely better than hot wheels and skinwalker tarkir
level up was the best mechanic they did

I'm gonna mail one to toriyama and beg him to sign it

Am I the only one who has permanently associated spaceshit in MTG with the Unfinity? This Edges stuff all looks like fake cards to me because I can't see it as anything but Unfinity

>>95916355
Why would it be abandoned?

>>95916351
>and they instead use clout that they call "Mallowmass" as currency.
like...social clout?

>>95916174
>animefags are above /tg/ posters in social hierachy

>>95915854
>Rumors has it Kithkin are going to become bearded underground dwellers
>Kithkin now are dwarves
They better not

>>95916124
Also all planes now have trans and non binary humans.
>>95916224
This

>>95916338
lmao, Lorwyn is going to be complete shit
It has some of the best art in modern magic, there's no way they can reach those highs again
Even the regular art on the Final Fantasy set stinks and this was their opportunity to do something great
AI art simulating Lorwyn will probably actually be better than water slop they'll come out with

>>95916360
They operate on mallowmass, an economic system that prioritizes reputation, exchange, the duties of host and guest, and other virtuous acts registered in public.

>>95916376
based meritocracy

>>95916338
>I can only pray Return to Lorwyn is good and not pozzed to hell and back.
LOL
LMAO
We've already seen lorwyn art and it's nothing like lorwyn
>>95915854

>>95916363
>JOTC forcing the white Caucasian race underground to make way for the influx of shitskins from the Omenpaths
I guess Palestine wasn’t enough ethnic cleansing for them.

>>95916371
>even the regular art on Final Fantasy stinks
Nah. Magali hard carries most sets she works on these days

>>95916338
Lorwyn 2 will only be as good as the broken cards in it. It will not have soul : >>95915854

>>95916324
As you can see Lightning has curves!

>>95915913
just cancel the game and stop embarrassing yourself

>>95916376
>Literally commodifying good deeds negating most of the purpose of being actually good
I can't tell if this is a parody or not

>space opera cover
>middle east/arabian nights folk tales cover
>traditional tolkien fantasy cover
>norse mythology cover
>greek mythology cover
>egyptian mythology cover
>gothic horror cover
>eldritch/cosmic horror cover
>modern horror cover
>japanese mythology cover
>european fairy tales cover
>mesoamerica/age of exploration cover
>wild west cover
>roaring twenties cover
>victorian england cover
>celtic mythology cover
>pajeet mythology kinda cover
>central asian/mongolian mythology cover

also:
-harry potter like world cover
-wacky races like world cover


What's next?

Don't forget what Lorwyn is supposed to look like;

>>95915854
What the fuck is that? It looks more like something from Eldraine.

>>95916338
>I can only pray Return to Lorwyn is good and not pozzed to hell and back.
we got some official art already
also the set is called Lorwyn Eclipsed

>>95916204
Again, if you dont believe weebs spend that much money on cards, youre in for a rude awakening when Avatar and Spiderman "performs poorly than expected." You have marks like pic related spending $500 on ONE card as we speak

>>95916239
Ok let me rephrase that. The UB in the fantasy settings look more like Magic to me than the space shit. The Final Fantasy set is mostly the actual fantasy ones. It's only VII and the one with the emo dude driving a black convertible Cadillac and eating ramen that looks out of place. The others look good to me.

>>95916338
>>95916408
and another one

>>95916407
Close, SNC.

>>95913651
Have this card, love it. Guy looks like some freakish cannibal recluse and the strength illustration is way better than the tired "look at this cute animal 200 stories tall" they keep doing with giant growths

>>95913461
The year started with Whacky Races and there's apparently a Star Trek set by that spoiler? While most of the final fantasy setting except VII, VIII, and XV would comfortably sit aside with most of the old blocks.

>>95913071
I got to do this one

>>95916351
>>95916376
The art direction itself isn't that bad. Some of it looks kinda interesting and a bit more how I wish the new Dune movies had looked (a little less brutalist)
But it just isn't Magic. It just looks like a completely different game. Weeb shit looks more Magic than this shit

>>95916406
Marble white to greenish-orange...
Now pink... >>95916408

Yeah, nu Lorwyn is as bad as most returns wotc has recently done...

>>95916408
This is a girl right?
>>95916419
This doesn't look bad though.

>>95913651
What's funny is that this is the "special epic fullart" version and it's the cheapest of every printing because it looks dogshit

>>95916420
Good point

>>95916448
Nah, I do like the style.

>>95916459
Yea, shame they used the style to draw smeared dogshit that time

>>95916448
Mine Now, Cracka: When Caradora enters, you may search your library for a Mount or Vehicle card...

>>95916448
>that art
>japanese name
is she an american? cause that face screams homosexual "i fixed ur racist/'sexist/-ist art" tumblr snark style

>>95916467
Thats not Japanese. At the very leqst theyd use a K than a C for her name

>>95916443
>This is a girl right?
It's an elf anon

>>95916472
I meant the artist's name
>google her
OH GOD IT'S HER, SHE DID THE WORST MIKU OF ALL TIME
>based out of New York City

I knew it, she stunk of american

>>95916467

Damn, all these pro tour decks all have like.. 8 creatures total?? Is that normal? I've only played kitchen table magic with friends and all our decks have like 15-20+ creatures

>>95916489
Cori-Steel cutter turns spells into creatures

>>95916489
Cori is an endless threat generator.
You don't need anything else.

How different is EDH from 60 cards? I'm putting up a low power EDH brew for next week around her

>>95916511
It's a coin flip if you play with normal people or cedhfags

>>95916511
EDH is not MTG; it's a weird form of boardgame that exists to get 4 people together to hangout and be friends.

>>95915673
Man, yankee and west coast parades suck ass.

>>95916489
Cori is that good anon

>>95916523
>it's a weird form of boardgame that exists to get 4 people together to hangout and be friends.
anon what do you think mtg is
turning into mtg into some weird sweatlord retardation is aberrational
fun with your friends is what mtg as always meant to be and has been for most of its history

>>95916489
creatures die 1:1 to removal
cori steel is a 2:1 against removal

>>95916530
TDM spoiler season was a gold mine

>>95915494
>Station
>You can fly a star destroyer by manning it with a 1/1 stormtrooper over 10 turns after which point it doesn't need him anymore
Jesus christ talk about a flavor fail, just call it "launch" because a launch is a one time project you can accomplish over time

>>95916523
I want frens

>>95916531
MTG has been competitive game since its inception, it had prizes for the winner and losses for the loser as its core concept (Ante)

Playing to win is fundamental to MTG: you crying and table flipping and gerrymandering for 11 hours because you're not gonna get your 12 card combo to resolve isn't how it was meant to be

>>95916523
MTG is now a form of a boardgame.

>>95916551
>you crying and table flipping and gerrymandering for 11 hours because you're not gonna get your 12 card combo to resolve isn't how it was meant to be
good thing that's not what edh is!
but I'll let you rot in your filth for now while you have your FLOURISHING "competitive" formats

Gogo with jace, enigma jewel, omen hawker, soul cauldron

>copy x=2 is already usually lethal

>>95916561
>>95916531
It's okay anon, that guy just can't comprehend the level of skill expression present in high-level EDH.

Reminder that there are people who think this is more mtg than a high fantasy series

>>95916561
>good thing that's not what edh is!
lol, yes it is
>YOU HAVE TO LET MY DECK DO ITS THING OR YOU'RE BANNED

>>95916571
Real Magic is Bolas nervously raising his ass for Ugin to plow while Niv records it.

>>95916416
lmao are there actually fags in here who don't know theres a weebtax?

>>95916574
>edh fag
anon
>No cards after fallout
that is literally some random schizo from here not liking UB lmao
keep living in your dream land though

>>95916448
lol what the heck is this creature

>>95916351
The Sothera System
It is a System that revolves around a supervoid. Sothera was going to go supernova but the Monoist turned it into a supervoid with a photon collar. The photon collar emits enough light to support life.
Planets in order.
Susur Secundi was once known as Anuki but now is devoid of natural life with labyrinths being its only legacy. The Monoist colonized the planet and built a church there.

Kavaron is the Kav's homeworld. Once resource rich it has now been stripped is a barren husk. The Kav are Kavus.

Evendo is an icebound planet. Deep under the ice lay the Eumidian vanguard dormant. When Kavaron began to fall apart its chunks fell on Evendo and awakened the Eumidians. The Eumidians then terraformed the world into a lust planet filled with giant beast.

Adagia once known as Adawa. It is colonized by the Sunstar Free Company. It is a cold windy planet.

Uthros is a Gas giant. Non-Illvoi cannot enter it so they instead hang around the planets space stations and research facilities.

>>95916486
the whites in san francisco like to punish asians by forcing them to draw black people

>>95916574
>UB isn't real magic!
>also I don't like all these other mechanics I don't consider to be real magic either

>>95916511
>you sit at a table with other people
>people just play cards until one guy go "oops I win"
>you spend more time justifying every action you make than actually playing the game because you always have a guy that will act like a 5 years old who will say "but why did you attack me with your 1/1 and not him !? I will now spend every removal and counterspell on your cards instead of the guy that will combo next turn"
Commander is basically just a way for people to cope with all the money they spent on cardboards that they wouldn't otherwise use.

How the fuck are some FF cards in the US 3-4 times more expensive than in the EU?

>>95916600
I'm convinced this set will break the meta, with or without Cutter.

>>95916630
english cards are the standard
everything else is lesser

WOTC just announced a new official format
2 card selection draft
designed for 4 players
FINALLY a good format to hopefully dethrone cummander (which is the shittiest format)
I'll build my cube set around these rules and just play cube forever (which is the best format but there's too many faggots in this general who don't actually know that it's the only correct way to play magic)

>>95916489
The difference between mtg as intended to mtg as played.

>>95916642
Applies to English as well

>>95916646
MTG is intended to be played as EDH.

>>95916584
You should see the last thread where some guy thinks its a jewish psyop. I mean yes the game and its monetization model is jewish as fuck, but weebtax is very much definitely a thing, the kikes at jotc just realized it so you have an influx of anime alt art of polarizing qualities in the past few years.

>>95916643
Just like brawl, oathbreaker, and tinyleaders did.
Sounds more like drafts never fire anymore and they had to come up with a format so the 4 people at the lgs who don't want to play coomander can still draft.

>>95916661
naw, just 40 or 60 card decks of whatever the kids can manage to scrounge together from their starters and boosters. Getting a taste of power here and there with one card or another and trying to make a set of 2 or three.

>>95916679
>People like actually good things over wotc house style slop
wow what a shocker

>>95916685
brawl is popular on arena

>>95916698
Go to r*ddit, search for "new to mtg" posts. Each and every one of them is about EDH.

>>95915516
Fuck off, that's a dude. Don't gaslight me WOTC.

>>95916630
More people playing mtg in us.

>>95916685
meh don't care, it will just be a new format and way for me to structure a cube around

>>95916712
I've personally seen a lot of fucked up asian girls that look like that

>>95916351
>Fomori-Eldrazi war
NANI??????

>>95916600
Sothera system species.
The Kav are Kavus. Their home planet is now falling apart so they immigrate to foreign planets and work for foreign jobs. The few that stayed try to preserve important cultural artifacts. Most Kavu are miners.

The Eumidians are Insects. The propagation begins by sending seed pods unto foreign planets. Once optimal conditions have been met they are created and begin terraforming the planet. Also they are not a hivemind. It was repeated often enogh that this might be important down the line I don't think Magic has had any Mind Hive insects so what could it imply?

The Astelli are the living remains of stars. They are made concentrated mana. They began the Summist religion and fight against the Monoist.

>>95916709
Because Arena doesn't have coomander.

>>95916721
INSECT CHADS RISEEEEEEE

The floating screens are universal translator.

Who was the guy behind Duskmourn? As much as I hated the humans, he made really cool looking monsters.

>>95916718
>He doesn't know

Is Edge of Eternites made by the guy behind Aetherdrift?

A Monoist.

>>95916744

>>95916734
Every art that had no humans was fucking great in Duskmourne.

>>95916744
What the hell are those? Looks menacing.

A Summist knight.

>>95916736
Why would a finno-korean hyperwar with technology outpacing at 3x the level of the nuclear age result in a slow degradation of society back to the antiquity level of development over thousands of years, instead of an abrupt cutoff like the flood or fall of maldek?

>>95916760

>>95916766

>>95916765
the technology from the war was still around and usable, but due to some of the after effects of The Bright Days it started to degrade over time and people were unable to reuse the same resources, which then eventually lead to the technology being forgotten altogether

>>95916744
why just why

The Fomori allies. Probably not important.

>>95916739
Yeah but this time the set won't be ruined by overly focusing on vehicles and a shit racing theme

>>95916760
HOLY FUCKING SHIT I FUCKING CALLED IT
>>95915297
>>95915297
>>95915297
I FUCKING KNEW IT

>>95916778
>>95916766
>>95916760
so are all they all niggers?

>>95916739
Ethan Fleischer. Its the same guy who made Battle for Zendikar, Journey into Nyx, Gatecrash, Throne of Eldraine and MH1, 2 and 3. The guy cant make a "normal" magic set. Its always either unplayable draft chaff sets or hilariously broken

>>95916789
A Drix Weftweaving.

>>95916710
k, internet ruined things again, how is this news?

>>95916765
The war end up when they used the autism ray and both side became too autistic to wage war and function as a society.

>>95916799

>>95916797
>Three of the worst sets ever made and four of the best sets ever made
man that is some heavy difference

>>95916788
>>95916811
Wait wait wait... Fomori are just Ayy Lmaos?

>>95916819
An android with a translator.

A Wurmwall giant.

oh god it looks so fucking awful
magic the gathering isnt just dead they're fucking the corpse

>>95916829
>>95916819
That's ok.
>>95916788
>>95916799
I like this.
>>95916811
>>95916744
>>95916752
This is ok.
>>95916760
>>95916766
>>95916778
I don't care about this.

>>95916819
>>95916829
Please let it be a competitive robot deck, please let it be a competitive robot deck, please let it be a competitive robot deck...

Here is a format:
Tribal Commander X
>commander doesn't have to be legendary
>creatures must share a type with commander obviously
>creatures that don't share a type with commander aren't allowed
>no changelings as commander
>1 changeling allowed per deck
>singleton
>No color restriction
>No counterspells
>No sorcery/instant/enchantment creature removal
>No board wipes
>No eldrazi
>80-120 card deck
>max 5 legendaries per deck commander included
>player with the least legendaries gets to go first
>no coom tax
>creatures can declare attacks on other creatures
>every ability is once per turn
>Phyrexian Vindicator and Obliterator and cori steel cutter are banned already

>>95916848
What are the significant implications of the Eumidians not being a hive mind? What could the writers be trying to tell us?

I just want more affinity like from those guys in aetherdrift

>>95916760
WE
WUZ
KANGZ

>>95916760
Call me woke but i would

I’m just tired of the endless niggering of mono white simply because JOTC have a Freudian fetish with blackening everything white. And again, these cards never see competitive play either.

>>95916861
Mox Tantalus {3}
Artifact (Rare)
Affinity for lands
{T}: Add one mana of any color a land you control could produce

>>95916867
I know what you are.

>>95916877
PUT A BLACK CHICK IN IT AND MAKE HER LAME AND GAY

>>95916877
An unbridled racist?
Correct

>>95916877
>maybe we could make our black girls cute
>NO they should have tan ugly angry expression
Why do they always do that?

>>95914831
Yes, I know and that's why the game is dying.

>>95914892
Yeah, it's called removal.

>>95916760
>white faction
>black people
lmao every time
they are determined to never have another Crusade again

>>95916891
Unironic agenda. I recall a black videogame dev saying the same thing, why the fuck are all the black chicks in vidya so ugly, you can 100% make hot black chicks and he posted examples. Later the day he said he got called by "fellow black artists" and rescinded his post.

>i want to have fun
>so i must be able to do everything at the expenses of game design because a game without any rules or restrictions IS LE FUN
>"yo wtf the game allows me to live out my power fantasy to the utmost autistic degree why is my game dying? fucking casuals who play the game by themselves and never say anything"
Power corrupts, absolute power makes for bad games

Aged like fine wine

>>95914904
Psychopathy. You're describing the entire spike mentality. They don't care how they win, so long as they win. If they could guarantee a 100% win rate by driving literally every single customer away from the game and ending the game next month, they'd take the deal in a heartbeat. Spikes always play blue or black and they HATE green. Always have. That's why if you look at core sets from 10 years ago even basic shit like Dungrove Elder just look amazing. It's a basic bitch card with two abilities, yet it shows more love to Green than anything printed in the past 5 years. A spike NEEDS to have a victim to play against. They hate it when someone can fight back, that's why green nets the most bans, despite being the weakest color. Always has been, always will be. And because being a spike and being rich pretty much go hand in hand, JotC just gave the whole damn game to the bastards. This is specifically why the Bluish Question has never been answered. Rich faggots love to play blue because it's the most OP color and easiest to win with. And KotK have kept it that way for 25 fucking years.

>>95916890
When they are pretty it is ok.

>>95914949
I'm going to print Time Wander. Threadly Reminder: the Reserved List is an invalid contract as all contracts signed under duress have no legal standing. And since the Reserved List is literally a hostage negotiation of rich idiots dictating terms to a company they aren't a part of, it has no legal standing whatsoever.

Tick tock.

>>95915250
Stop calling shutting down the game "interaction", you orwellian fuckhead.

>>95916942
If you're serious, you're absolutely right.
If you're shitposting; you don't even begin to understand how right you are.

When they don't want you questioning counterspell's effects on the game, you just know.

On the green stuff it's debatable, G is pretty strong.

>>95916819
If this card is not good I swear to god I'm gonna force feed maro a collectors box.

>>95915372
Lol, what makes you think the company has enough brainpower to design the sets they're doing now? All the real MTG sets are just dress-up parties now and the UB shit isn't even good if people just objectively judge the cards.

>>95915383
Literally just an Un-set masquerading as MTG.

>>95916942
>>95916961
White is the weakest color of all time. Green at least got their time in the sun for a while.

>>95915417
Hey guys, listen, what if we made a crowbar a creature!? You can just tell this set is overflow from one of kike nosewater's shitty acorn sets. This entire set is MOM:A except the leftovers from Unfinity.

>>95916945
Yeah no shit
But you got a bunch of sissies and fags and fat ugly cunts working at and for wotc, so of course they have to uglify everything or else they're feeding the "patriarchy" and "doesn't reflect reality".
But ugly nu"men" and revolting butchfemales are somehow "reality", despite homosexuals apparently only being a minority all across the globe.

>>95915425
Soulless.

>>95914040
Pointing to base set Pokemon is unconvincing. Everyone and their mom is keeping things sealed and mint. And most sets will never come close to the desirability and relevance of sets of that calibre. In ten years time after wizard's has done final fantasy set 6, are people still going to care about this set?

>>95915516
First god damned person in a card image listed on scryfall is a they/them. Lol this company is over.

I have never seen a worse and most boring PT than this one. Is everything shitting Cutters or Omniscience locking down the whole deck and playing his whole hand.

How this faggots had the balls to not fix this and let us rot in this absolute shit of event is beyond me.

Man, Pvddr is old.

Why is everyone complaining? Standard doesnt need bans just gitgud

>>95916960
>Stop calling shutting down the game "interaction", you orwellian fuckhead.
spoken like a true aggro player

>content creator engagement baiting
shall not read
shall not click
matter of fact i got that ugly faggot muted and blocked

>>95915436
I think companies are just paying JotC to advertise for them at this point. I don't believe for one second that this failed company has the money to buy the rights to a Marvel character. I think other companies are just using MTG as a cheap prostitute now because the sloppy whore is desperate for cash after spending all her rent money on crack.

>>95915518
>Interesting or at least decent looking monster
>Ugly as sin humans that ruin the whole set
It really is Duskmourn 2.0

>>95917022
He sounds like if someone squeezed Goofy’s balls until they burst.

So this vivi cancer doesn't even play cori or rage?

>>95917023
Magic as a game system has been strung up, had its guts ripped out and other IP’s rent it as a skinsuit for a few months. The endgame will be 100% UB for Standard and the mana system and “spells” will become a metaphysical costume for others to parade themselves around in until they get bored like an amusement park ride.

>>95915507
>Those colors
>Those abilities
wat

>>95917031
Where? Vivi was just a nice Plan B in Cori decks

>>95917045
Green has had do thing; draw a card for a while

>>95915517
You could literally yank any rando off the street and they would be better at designing this game than the current team. But then how would CIA trannies get nepo positions ruining something white men (themselves) like?

Threadly Reminder: Terese Nielsen was cancelled for no other reason than open bigotry because she was a lesbian and trannies hate lesbians because they won't fuck them. Make sure JotC knows that you know this on a regular basis.

>>95917031
????
they're playing vivi and cutter as their only two wincons, unless you count stormchaser's talent
some even throw in cauldron

>>95916721
>>95916848
>>95916857
>The Eumidians are Insects.
>Also they are not a hivemind. It was repeated often enogh that this might be important down the line I don't think Magic has had any Mind Hive insects so what could it imply?
WE'RE SO FUCKING BAAACK!!!

>>95917023
Really depends on the contracts and how this crossover shit actually works
FF might be dirt cheap right now because 16 flopped hard
>>>see Clive+costumes being in tekken 8 despite NO ONE asking for that and everyone hating it and the character being genuinely broken even after balance patches
7 remakes are still draining the SE on the development alone
15 was another flop and in development for 10+ years >>>see tekken 7
Dissidia NT; flop
Lots of FF mobile gachas flopped as well

If anything it might work like a company applying for the crossover shit with an IP they own and hasbro paying an agreed % based on sales
I really doubt Hasbro/wotc goes out of their way to "collab" with anyone if they can churn out new sets every month

>>95915549
They didn't. Nobody bought FF and nobody will buy Edging for Eternity Waiting for JotC to Make a Good Set. Game will be shut down by next year.

>>95915553
Too bad it requires more than just art to carry a set. Looks like they did a charity drive to hire artists to spend more than 15 minutes on each painting though, so I guess that's a nice change of pace.

>>95917056
>theresa nielsen
I know multiple copies of her Akroma and plan to add more, because i know.

Edge of Eternities will be a huge gigantic flop. FF will sell really really well but people will get burned by it due to singles prices crashing. Hence people won't rush to buy EoE boosters and I bet WoTC will overprint massively based on inflated expectations.

It's gonna be ogre

>>95915709
Based on my limited knowledge only Earthbending and firebending will be prominent in the set.

If any card i might want is in edging infinitely, i'll get it.
Won't buy sealed product tho
lmao

>>95915648
I don't even know why they bother to print green cards at this point. If you hate it this much just remove it from the fucking game. Green is better off just fucking off entirely, that way we can have good memories of less than half a dozen cards while the entire rest of the game goes up in FIRE.

>>95915791
No, Up the Beanstalk is getting banned in a few days because it's a green card. We just aren't learning how KotK operates yet, are we?

>>95915673
Andrew Tate spotted

>>95915709
Wow I just realized I will hate the Avatar set even more than I hated the Fistula Faggery set.

>>95917064
See
>>95914648
>>95916278
>>95916416
Deny it all you want, weebs hate money and would happily part with it. If this wasnt the case thrn gachaslop wouldnt be a thing. Its the easiest formula for sales proven right everytime. Game is shit? Add cute anime girl. Sales saved.

>>95916376
>nuWOTC have a faction that literally uses virtue signalling as a way to generate wealth
Bit on the nose innit

>>95915762
>This isn't even a top tier deck
The absolute christing money state of this game.

>>95916459
It's hard to make Ojutai look bad, he's got one of the best dragon designs ever

>>95915800
>waterbend
>white
I see you work for JotC and don't understand the color pie. Carry on.

>>95915838
Ugin is a game ender every time he appears. The meta is simply too fast to play him in most decks.

>>95917150
Old Ugin and 7 Karn also does that when they pop up on turns 3-4

>>95916600
>>95916721
>the Kav are Kavus
Absolutely fucking stupid - Kavu is a specific term given to creatures that Dominaria its self gave life to in the battle against the Phyrexians. They quite literally only exist on Dominaria.

>>95917120
>weebs
it's fujoshis, they're the ones who spend ungodly amounts of money on merch and gacha.
>but anime girl
Look, the goonslop is carried by a small percentage of wales and everything you read and see on the internet is pretty much chinese shills.
Same goes for games such as stellar blade or not-warframe, it's all shilling and erp'ing discord trannies trying to lure in new blood.
But for the rest? It's all actual women not even your most desperate basement dwelling bootleg shrek would want to smell, being outright obsessed with having either cute girls or boys.
If you took one marketing class, the first thing you're ever going to learn is; if you want to sell to men, appeal to women first and then forget about even considering men.

Which group do you think homosex, blacks and oh we so diverse and happy panders to? Effeminates.

>>95916569
Jesus Christ, this sounds like the worst kind of hell. Having to win by manipulating, cajoling and bribing?

>>95917170
Welcome to social games.

>>95917168
No one could ever imagine who those cute anime girls actually appeal to. It's not men.

>>95915897
>Even shocklands are bad because they're simply too slow and low value now
Oh ho ho the ABSOLUTE STATE.

- Bob is too weak now
- Shocklands are too weak now
- Counterspells are too weak now

Someone should check JotC HQ for a gas leak or something.

>>95915900
Wow it's almost like...it's almost like double strike was a clearly overpowered ability from the get go and a horrific mistake...who could have ever guessed?

>>95917168
Ah yes, its WOMEN who pay for pic related. Make it make sense.

>>95917165
Tezzeret specifically comments on this.

Pour one out for the anon who was actually excited for EOE for some reason...

>>95917211
God bless his innocent heart.

>>95915961
>Remember KAVU!?!?
>How about KAVU IN SPACE!?!?!?!?!
Gay as hell. Strong movie 4 in a slop Horror Movie franchise energy.

>>95917202
That somehow makes it less stupid? "This plane has no contact with other planes, except, you know - we have these wholly unique creatures from another plane thus invalidating the entire us being separate thing immediately."

>wotc casually dropping lore about fomori-eldrazi war, eldrazi hunters, space kavu and the actual shape of the multiverse
I will never recover from this.

>>95915965
All corporations are just nepo hiring outlets for the criminal children of the rich to keep them out of jail at this point. Talent has been utterly removed from the equation in this our latest absolute state of capitalism.

>>95917221
Yes. It is a plot hook - how did kavu first appeared on dominaria? Maybe they were transported by fomori? Maybe even the entire plane was a part of the Edge before being "sucked in" into the multiverse?

>>95917018
>the game is fine it's the pro who are wrong
I'm pretty sure wizard keep the competitive scene only because if they can it cards will lose value.

>>95917200
>pay
>for your average goonslop
Brother, i have seen everything, witnessed eternities, gained insight into the most insane faggotry... that is just a tiny drop of feces in the immense vastness of kawaii uwu shit and husbandobait

So how do I actually play magic? What do I do with the FF cards I bought?

>>95917229
I take issue with the assumption that corporatism is the end-state of capitalist society and not the consolidation of political and financial power to warp the system that has had the highest net impact on world prosperity and the reduction of suffering globally into a dream grinding profit machine.

Otherwise, full marks.

Also, fucking card games.

>>95917258
First you unfuck yourself and google "how do I play mtg". Then you read the OP.

>>95917251
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 sold the most out of the series but its also the most villofied as "goonslop" and a borderline hentai game accorsing to western outlets back 2017 to the point that its fanbase have grown tired and will lash out at anyone who criticizes the game. Its gotten to a point that people actively call it that to bait engagement. I dont believe that waifufaggotry like this waa made to appeal to women; they were the first to stir shit about it

>>95917240
I can only hope you realize how retarded you sound right now.

>>95915998
Oh don't worry, they're bringing back all the mistakes of Homolands. They even tried to bring fucking banding back for the Final Faggotry set. Why make new mistakes when you can just make old ones?

Players literally need to form some kind of organization and strongarm the company out of the hands of mark rosewater and his pet CIA trannies. I'm 100% fucking serious. What these bastards are doing is just sacrilege at this point.

>>95917272
...women love Pyra and Mythra (and Nia) though. It is the tale as old as time. Actual women love Bayonetta, Lara Croft, Tifa / Aeris...etc, etc...

>>95917211
I will tell you a secret i'm more hyped for this space set than i ever was for the absolute garbage that ended being this FF set hope you can sleep at night.

almost fell for actually spending money because of FF in this game but those upcoming pozzed (troons and bantus) cards saved me

>>95917267
Unfuck myself?

>>95916024
>>95916065
Jesus fucking christ. I'm serious. If an outside force doesn't invade JotC and commit to a hostile takeover this company will be totally bankrupt within a year.

>>95917272
Twatter or western "vocal" opinion barely matters.
In Asia, it's mostly women who go apeshit for the crap.
Goonslop and Kawaii shit are two completely different entities.
Your average art coomer audience just sees picture, saves it and move on to next picture.
Cute, wholesome or otherwise media featuring females with some sort of romance that can be canonized or some shit? Majority female audience.
FF7? 99% active female community because of shipping.
Every community or hobby is majority female now, as in actual cunts, not dickless transvestites although they also also highly active, because of either fanfiction or shit like that.
It's difficult to tell you about this in words only, you have to lurk in communities and and see for yourself how fucking cooked every hobby is.

Who do you think this basic ass animu style trash appeals to? Not men.

>>95917296
So why did they villify the game when it came out? The stigma around the series was never fully removed with the stunt they pulled around 2017. Vidya journos also bashed the character designs.

>>95916099
Wow it's almost like this was mossad and the CIA's plan the whole time or something.

>>95916224
Be fucking quiet already, shill nigger. Nobody wants your hot topic bullshit.

>>95917326
>Hope
Anon nobody fucking likes Hope.

>>95916259
It's amazing how few people know that kike nosewater has ALWAYS wanted to turn MTG into his precious spaceman comics with rayguns and that the entire purpose of the Unshit was to creep foreign material into the main game.

>>95917326
If the western vocal voices dont matter why do 90% of asian devs bend backwards to sterilize their game for "modern" audiences?

>>95917306
It's a vulgar and pejorative statement for 'resolving mistakes or failures either of action or character'. In other words you can look up the basics online instead of waiting to be spoonfed here and wasting everyone's time. Then you can read the advice in the OP, and then afterwards you'll have the basic brainwashing necessary to ask questions that either look like stupid bait or are stupid bait.

Assuming you bought more than one card but only one of each, you're probably looking at EDH which is over here >>95917253 .

>>95916338
FF was a huge bomb. All the claims online are made up botshill bullshit. Like when everyone kept claiming Arena was crashing and nobody could play the FF release. Never happened. I hadn't permanently uninstalled that shit yet and I was playing the whole time with zero interruptions. Scryfall didn't even go down. NOBODY CARES about foreign IP slop in MTG. Nobody. Not even supposed fans of that slop. KotK literally had to gravedig a Homolands tactic of FORCING people to play with FF cards in tournaments just to get people to do it.

>>95917378
Reality hits hard anon. Weebtax is real. Actual people will pay an upwards of $500 for cardboard if it has a cute anime girl on it. Im sorry of you've lived in a bubble all your life.

>>95917341
i know
that's why i posted him
>>95917364
money and market regulations
If a game contains too much nudity, age rating goes up, so it can't be sold to a wider audience.
Also middle eastern market requires way more censoring, but there is a player base there too.

Also as mentioned before, western media and vocal opinions are poisoned or fake and most twitter shit is just your average discord tranny servers attempting to social engineer.

Who do you think pic related appeals to? Not majority men.

>>95917378
>>95917385
The set is selling, yes - but not to MtG players. It is scalpers / "investors" / collectors all the way down. Not that WotC or Hasbro care one way or the other.

>>95917375
I bought one different type of lightning each,.I think I'll frame em

>>95916351
Caged Sun?

>>95917389
>Who do you think pic related appeals to? Not majority men.
While this is true, I dont believe the pic appeals to a majority female audience either.

>>95916351
>Regent Maximum Taman IV
A black woman, no doubt.

>>95916355
First players would have to call out the design team for being comprised entirely of jews and white male trannies. But nobody cares enough about the fucking game at this point to even notice.

>>95916358
No, because that's where it belongs, where it came from and they're both the product of the same cancer: mark nosewater.

>>95916376
This is a Magic set?? They're so far off the reservation at this point it may as well be another IP entirely.

>>95917378
>FORCING people to play with FF cards in tournaments just to get people to do it.
Lmao couldn’t be me. I’m sitting comfy in my pj’s about to get pizza delivery while I sort my Bloomburrow and Wilds of Eldraine, while retards are paying $32 to draft Final Fagassy. And if another constructed tournament DID happen, I refuse to play any UB slop in my decks. If this is how they soft-push me out the door of this failing game, then so be it. So long and thanks for all the Kavu

>>95917125
A very long, very curved nose.

>>95913515
Perhaps Magic players could adopt a certain aspect from the fighting game community's arcade days.
Have a table which is the "cab" (as in arcade cabinet or arcade machine). You pay to play here. Perhaps a dollar to get a sit-down. There's no expectation of socialization other than what's necessary for the gameplay. Winner stays on, loser gets up and the next guy sits down. If you can manage a multi-game win streak, then wow you're really good!

>>95917398
Good for you anon. Whenever you want to learn to play the game and come back to us we'll be here.

>>95917378
You dont need to force people to play Final Fantasy + Foundations when they'll willingly do it just to escape from a 42% cori metashare and a 14% mice metashare. You can harp about the purity of MtG all you want, the state of the meta is in utter shambles, and if it requires culling every single mistake of an expansion so you can get a meta that doesnt get decided on turn 3, then so be it.

>>95916431
And yet, it doesn't. Nothing about the FF set fits in MTG. Not the art, not the mechanics, not the flavor. Nothing. The fucking Walking Dead cards are a smoother fit.

>>95913515
This is an excellent post and I feel like you're the original core audience of the game that's now a minority because you don't just buy whatever WOTC spits out every month.

>>95917456
Now I'm imagining an Arena arcade machine...

>>95917413
On average, it would.
Same as with pic related.
You have to realize that most women, when viewing medium with other women in it these are the two things they think
>omg this is so pretty because of the colors and characters!
>i bet i would be so pretty/hot in that!
They either are wowed by aestethics or project themselves in the media, on average of course
So, when they see they kawaii uwuwu shit those two things are their standard reactions.
This is also why most women who are into anime are into cosplay.
This is also why most women would run naked in public if allowed to.
Ever been to a nudist beach? Mostly women and old men.

>>95916439
>Weeb shit looks more Magic than this shit
No it does not. Just repeating this shit on the internet won't drum up sales for that bomb of a set.

>>95917473
>Nothing in FF fits mtg
Lol ok

>>95917456
but anon, fightans are card games
in the current year they're both brain dead solved games that requires you only to know your flowcharts and let the character play the game for you because if you were allowed to have agency in a game thus an expression of skill, normies couldn't play

>>95917483
Unironically correct. The high fantasy setting of FF1-5 fits more than pic related and jotc should be ashamed of it

>>95916530
>>95916540
Threadly Reminder: ALL "predictions" that claim clearly busted cards are "bad" come from JotC autobot shills. They are planted to make people who have literally never seen the internet before believe that "UH! But it's the players who are wrong!" Just like is going on right now with the revealed Tezzeret cad. It's clearly broken as fuck, but every shill is claiming it's "bad actually".

>>95916760
Strong black woman leader type

Every gaming genre was better 8 years ago. We had SFV, Amonkhet.... After covid everything turned into dogshit

>>95916531
Do not presume to dictate to people who've been playing the game an entire decade before you heard of it what this game is, tranny.

>>95916489
This is the ultimate outcome of FIRE design. Every creature is just a sorcery now because exiling creature removal is everywhere every turn. The next logical step is to abandon the dead card type that is creatures and do something else. KotK did this to themselves.

>>95917508
>SFV
>Amonkhet
I seriously hope this is a joke because launch SFV was fucking garbage, and almondcat was also underwhelming. Try 2012, that was actually a good year for both fightan and mtg

>>95917500
If i say X is bad, no one will buy and hoard X so i will buy and hoard X for cheap to then resell X at huge profits
I think i am very smart

btw if you want to beat scalpers at their own propaganda, just lowball them and use the same tactics so they get mad

>>95917472
Kinda agree with this. Cori has been fucking up my shit in fucking Arena Standard Brawl of all places, not just when I've been putzing about with my stupid Pioneer brew. There's no format that I've seen that it isn't way too fucking fast. Doesn't get me excited for putting together a paper deck for sure.

>>95917494
a less glib response, please

>>95916551
Spikes are getting kicked out of the game. We've had enough.

>>95917525
Cori is seeing heavy play in fucking Legacy. It's a more resilient Monastery Mentor

>>95917523
If this were true, my local happy card merchant wouldnt sell their Cori Steel Cutters foe 2 bucks each on release. They would say they were out of stock thrn miraculously have stock again 2 weeks after people realize its good at 5x the price

>>95917456
I'm up for it.

>>95916571
FF isn't "high fantasy", faggot. Never was.

>>95917545
Early games in the series were all the Japs' interpretation of Ultima and Wizardry

>>95917520
SFV had Rainbow Mika and Menat, your opinion is invalid. I'd take crush counter fishing over Drive drush or heat any day of the week

>>95916531
>anon what do you think mtg is
a game, not a roleplaying session.
When my parents played Rook on weekends with their friends they didn't make sure "everyone got to do their thing". They played to win. And the losers took it with grace.

>>95916574
Unironically this should be CARD FUCKING DESIGN. For TWENTY FIVE FUCKING YEARS Spikes have been dictating terms to JotC and forcing the game to become less fun with every iteration of their power flexure. Now we've finally reached the point where NOBODY is playing the fucking game anymore and it's on death's door and they're desperate to keep their stranglehold on power. And you know what? JotC will allow it. Then the game will close its doors.

NEXT YEAR.

>>95917555
All shit compared to SF4. Notice how I didnt say SF6? Because that game also sucks

>>95917170
Politics!

>>95917533
You can't use Legacy / Vintage to gauge a card's power level because extremely niche and off-kilter effects can be absurdly effective due to how unexpected they are. Note that obvious outliers like Lurrus are notwithstanding here.

>>95917527
I dunno do you want me to write an essay on how the dumbification of all modern games is an intended design choice that focuses on taking away any and all skill expression, basically turning games into autopiloted flavored games of their genre, because in the attempt to get the broader audience to buy the game and keep playing it so they buy the next installment, you have to make it easy for them to succeed in the game so you design the game in a manner that anyone can win as in introducing either low risk-high reward mechanics (safe homing full screen launchers/cori) or huge luck factors like forced 50/50s that heavily punish the defender for guessing wrong, so that the outsider/normie can be manipulated into falsely believing they are good at the game when in actuality the game is doing everything for them?
Would you say gacha pulls are a test of skill?
Would you call a slot machine player good if he wins?

>>95916584
>>95916679
It's 2025. Everything is a jewish psyop. And trying to claim it isn't doesn't work anymore. Everyone already knows all your tricks, how you turned the internet into spambots and now nobody can afford rent. People are done listening to propaganda now.

>>95916571
what's the most soulless card in this whole set?

>>95916408
Of course they will homowash the xeno elfs just like sultai

>>95917569
Everyone is aware, the point im making is weebtax is real, and for you to say people wouldnt pay premium for attractive anime art is detached from reality.

>>95916600
This lore fucking sucks. Once again proving all autogynephiles really do have the brains of 12 year old girls. And the bodies of 80 year old men in dresses.

>yes, i will proceed to try to convince random people on the internet that X thing exists an keep insisting upon it so people are convinced of buying X (which i actually own and am trying to sell)
>hnnng i am so smart
scalpers really are the trannies of card games

>>95916523
It's a role-playing session where 4 people pretend to play an "epic" game of Magic, instead of letting that happen naturally by playing to win within the limitations of a format's rules. But EDH players can't give up their gigantic cardpool, so if you try to do that in EDH you get a cEDH experience, which is vintage/legacy-esque in broken power levels.

>>95916844
Thanks for the opinion.

>>95917559
SF6 is ass but still better than 4... however KAMIGE 5 still rules

>>95916606
I often wonder how MTG artists feel being told for the 80th time "We love your art style, now make this one the blackest gorilla nigger you've ever seen."

>>95917568
How do you explain the same people still winning these games if the game is playing it for them?

>>95917592
I mean I cant just let you claim you want the nuance and decision making involved with figbting games and mtg from yesteryear then claim SFV is better than IV, its hard to take you seriously with that opinion. At least just be honest and say you like SFV for Menat and Mika.

>>95916630
Manipulating markets is easier in a country with zero regulations on capitalist shenanigans.

>>95917597
She's pretty hot and is in a cheesecake pose emphasizing her boobs and thighs. You should have picked a different card.

>>95917598
Opponent guessing wrong repeatedly, which leads to snowballing.
Are you less skilled for not drawing the out to remove cori steel cutter and have an answer to the tokens and mice?
Next question.

>>95917481
There's also the woman who tries very hard to break the mold, but ends up behaving like a cringe-worthy stereotype of a male player.

>>95917597

>>95917258
>Buy thing you have no use for
I love burgerstan

>>95917597
She cute. I want black women black, the blackest of black. Not brown shit.

>>95916643
>>95916685
EXCUSE ME I WAS TOLD FF WAS THE HIGHEST SELLING SET OF ALL TIME.

Isn't it strange that nobody is playing all these FF cards they supposedly are buying in record numbers in draft OR constructed? Really bizarre behavior.

>>95916646
This IS how MTG is intended to be played in 2025. None of this is by accident. Don't you love FIRE? Don't you wish to consume product?

>>95917620
Because FF wouldnt do shit in the current meta. People buy it for 1.) Lottery 2.) Weebtax. Thats literally it. If youre going to base popularity of sets because it has broken cards then BLB and DSK shouldve done better.

>>95917258
You can't.
Magic is dead.
Commander is alive.
Commander fills LGS every week.
But Magic, as it existed in the 90s through the 2010s, is dead.

>>95917605
I don't know about hot, but she's generally pretty good art given the kind of garbage we've seen. Even the weird fucking revolver wands they did and the cut-out hats look pretty okay in this card.

The contrast and pose is good and I honestly love how the tattered cloak and wings frame her not-shooting her not-gun.

I don't like tokenism in art or artists, but this one is clean.

>>95917603
5 took decision making to the max, you had to manage v-trigger, defense and offense. Something simple as drive reversal was something you couldn't just throw out, when you had vtrigger up you didn't want to waste it, your opponents had counterplay.... Oki was expensive and always a choice between damage, corner carry, oki and meter

you're right about season 1 and 2 being kinda ass lmao

>>95917635
Well yes, seasons 3-4 were different beasts yes, my point was that launch SFV was a fucking scam

Cori is the equivalent of modern controls+slime in sf6 and heat+king in t8

temporary lockdown is a brutal card wtf

>>95917635
PS fighting games peaked with Naoman taking EVO Japan

>Ping pong matches between Cori fuckers and Omniscience shitters
AAAAAAAAAAAA Is this what they call “Pro Magic”?

>>95917640
Now if only white had any threats to go with its large library of answers besides “make fliers and hope to eventually attack”

>>95916709
Arena is bots. Nothing JotC says about Arena could ever possibly touch the borders of our reality of truth.

>>95917645
According to Daniel its an INTERESTING PUZZLE thobeit
>>95917018

>>95916661
I'm just going to say it. EDH sucks. If you like it, whatever, but most MTG players don't and never have.

>>95917655
I'd rather play edh than settlers of catan for the ten billionth time

>>95916703
>MTG WAS NEVER GOOD!!
>NOW BUY MTG PRODUCT!!!
Has this tactic ever actually worked? Or is this just arrant neoliberal brainrot and the various glownigger agents can't help but spill this stupid opinion all over the internet?

>>95917653
I would hit that Daniel faggot in the face without rest and tell him to enjoy his new Pluzzle to solve

how would you feel about the core rules of the game, not the EDH rules, becoming a minimum of 100 cards deck size?

>how to solve LE puzzle
>run adblockers, stop watching content creators, dislike their slop, mute and block them on social media, stop interacting with their posts (they don't care about you plebeians) and stop asking for their opinion (they have no clue about shit, only agendas),
>also keep repeating the truth until they break, don't compromise with them
death to content sloppers

Whiteschizo confirmed schizophrenic?

>>95916710
You know what bots on this general never point out? EVERY SINGLE NEW PLAYER to the game that posts on reddit HATES MTG. They find it to be an overly-aggressive, unfun slog with hateful mechanics. Seriously, go look for any new player on the Arena or MTG general subs. All new players have this view unless they're very obvious corporate shills spamming some version of "New player here, isn't the latest UB set just the best thing ever? I would sell my children for it!" MTG is losing everyone but trannies at this point. Just like the democratic party. They hyperfocused on the most rarified "not white male" demographic they could find and now utter collapse has been the outcome.

I never thought it would come to this but I actually have started gatekeeping people from Magic who I deem to be of a certain type that would be a negative influence on the game. People who have specifically asked me to teach them to play.

>>95917673
We've coddled the scrubs too long, is what we've done.

>>95916721
They're going to pull a Prometheus, aren't they?

>Um actually all Dominarian races are from outer space!

I tell people how the game really is so that when they try it out they go
>"hey that random guy who told me this game is cancer was absolutely right"
But it will only hit when they start losing to monored or some other cancerous shit.

>>95917684
The multiverse is a pocket dimension and the real universe is the Universe in EoE

>>95917676
What's are you gatekeeping them from exactly? Coomander night? Paying for product placement? Overpriced boosters you can't play with? Half a dozen dead formats? Dilation sessions with the remaining playerbase?

Literally everything I enjoy doing in Magic is considered "salt" these days.

>draw go
>prison/stax
>sligh/burn
>land destruction
>tool kits
>beatdown

>>95917673
Bro it's every game no matter how you cut it.
Lots of people, streamers and sloppers have an incentive in keeping players retained and interested so they must silence everyone who dares see thing for what they actually are.

I've learned to simply start dropping pills here and there since shills are actually that stupid or not well versed in words, they won't notice when you fuck with em.

>>95916744
>>95916752
Oh wow Orzhov in space that looks like Tezzeret.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6MxvzliG6I

>>95917694
The scraps of what's left, I suppose.

>>95917499
>this is what current year WotC makes them left to their own devices
It's time to leave Universes Within behind

>>95916782
Sorry sweaty we have to have a goatse meme in every set now.

>>95916799
Damn, this almost seems interesting. Too bad the set is guaranteed to be shit.

>b-but 50% of decks!
meanwhile the natural dynamics of the tournament format mean people just main deck against it
unironically as tricky dick intended
wotc should not intervene. The free market corrects itself.

>>95917696
If land destruction needs to be a thing, ramping or cheating out lands needs also be cheap and common amongst all colors

Land destruction is a game design mistake with the mana system and it can't be reasonably justified, no matter what anyone argues

>>95917696
>Salt
>Land Destruction
>Prison
If any faggot dares to say this about this archetypes after seeing this vomit of PT and the cancerous archetypes that lead the meta nowadays in ALL formats I swear to fucking god…

>>95916855
Be quiet! Don't let JotC see you posting shit like this or by year's end the entire game will be turned into it.

>>95917720
??

>>95913780
1000 dollars gets you enough gems to try this 25 times and the box is worth around 1000 so this seems like free money if you’re willing to grind desu

>>95917684
100%
Mirri was from space all along (not that it even fucking matters, so why even bring it up beyond memberberries), and Kavu weren't cool instinctual beasts birthed by the planet to protect its self, they were also aliens from beyond! Please be excited! PLEASE!

>>95917718
Land Destruction is a fair strategy that punishes greedy manabases is in fact a lot more fair than *cast overefficient threat* no good answer, bozo? *lose in two turns* but just like mill hurt faggots feelings because How would you mess with their 0 IQ gameplan? And now we have this dopamine seeker infestation ruining every single format.

But yeah, Land Destruction was the mistake.

>>95917716
The meta is >50% red despite people maindecking hate for the last 8 months, you dumb retard. Cori and the mouse are going bye bye.

>>95916932
Too bad neither JotC nor the rich idiots holding the company hostage are capable of introspection. That's the problem with psychopathy. It and self-analysis are basically mutually exclusive.

>>95917716
>The free market corrects itself.
it does but this has nothing to do with our current situation

>>95916760
White schizo deserves this fate

>>95916961
I'm deadly serious and I've been preaching this message for 20 years. I predicted the death of core sets about five years before they (temporarily) retired them and I'm telling you now, the path JotC are on is going to lead to actual death for the game in about a year. It's a stage 4 cancer diagnosis. Jews will do LITERALLY ANYTHING than an honest days work. They will expend 5x as much effort trying to scam or trick someone as they could have just put into making a decent product.

Bros will I be able to play an insect deck in two months?

>>95916981
Can you name when green was on top? Please list all the times you can remember. And no, bans don't count, because bans have nothing to do with dominance of a deck, only with spike sentiment. That's why cori exists in the first place and it's not getting banned next month either.

RE: fighting games
You even see people these days praising people for playing a low-tier character well even if they lost more than they give any credit to the person who won the actual tournament. See: Third Strike at Evo 2025

>>95917740
I am talking from pure game designer pov
Lands are the basis in how you can play the game, which is already tied to luck in drawing them and only green having access to ramp.
If you leave the door open for land destruction, then one day you can have cards that keep the opponent from playing lands.
Monored aggro still would beat land destruction but it isn't an argument for it.

You never want to punish a player for using core mechanics they require to actually play the game.
Mana barbs included in that.

In the end it's how wotc powercrept the game for whatever reason and kept designing overtuned cards that led us is.
Land destruction was not the mistake, it is a mistake to allow it to happen in such a game where lands are vital to actually play the game because then why would you not play land destruction when you can just let your opponent not play the game?
It's the same type of cancer just in a different flavor.

>>95917020
>You either have to have cards that win you the game when they smack the board or a removal storm.
>There are no other options
Weird how this wasn't the case for 20 fucking years, huh?

>>95917030
Yeah that dude is fat, ugly and sounds COMPLETELY insane. His voice is...indescribable.

>>95917777
If Magic got redesigned from the ground up into Magic 2.0 I'd expect you'd have another starting game stat other than life which you could spend as a way to make up for missed land drops or land destruction. HP/MP essentially.

>>95917063
Aha, so two failed companies are jerking each other off. Really explains a lot actually. Yidsney and marbul are also in the toilet and only NOW want to team up with JotC? Yeah, this is all starting to make sense now.

>>95917785
Hearthstone would be a variant you might be thinking of to fix the mana system.

The mana system is easy to fix with landcyling cards tho.
Either give every card the ability to landcycle for their respective color at the cost of Xcmc and getting exiled, because sending to gy could help set you up your second hand or reanimate targets, so you'd want to weigh in the option of either getting more land and dropping the card or not.
Or just print more landcycling cards, but the current ones are extremely slow and are only useful if your opponent isn't running aggro.
Or print more cards with effects that if they're discarded they can get you a land so you can build around using your own discard effects to get more lands.

>>95917545
You're right. It's an improvement on high fantasy.

>>95917087
>Edge of Eternities will be a huge gigantic flop
Yep. Nobody wants hat sets.

>FF will sell really really well
Nope. Unless you shills are going to keep claiming that every single fucking person that bought a pack just shoved them away in a binder somewhere and never plays with them, which would be a VERY bizarre outcome for ANY set, there's no way to explain how this set "sold so well", but also draft is failing because nobody is drafting it and oh also we have to invent a new format (translation: recycle the Homelands "you have to put these cards in your deck" rule) to force people to play with the fucking fake cards.

>>95917768
I'm not sure bro. Asking for a insect lord might be a tall order, but if we get some decent mill, ramping or reanimator insects from EoE, it might make for a mediocre pioneer or modern deck. The only insect lord in standard is 4 mana, is a legendary scarecrow, and you need delirium to get the benefits. The other insect-matters card is a 6-mana commander piece. Grist and Blex are the only insect-matters cards that have ever been successful, and that's a big stretch.

>>95917120
Shills aren't people. I don't care how many Burger King coupons they get.

>>95917202
Does he say "These jews and trannies at JotC are ruining everything."

>>95917815
>>95917822
>every single fucking person that bought a pack just shoved them away in a binder somewhere and never plays with them
Boy I have some news for you. You can deny reality all you want but weebs will unironically do this. Im sorry but youre way more detached from reality than the group youre trying to criticize if you didnt know this about weebs

>>95917809
btw with effects like that you could also have land destruction be a justifiable mechanic in the game

>>95917815
How come weiss kreuz sell so much when no one plays it? For exactly the same reason.

>>95917240
So in other words, they're pulling a Prometheus. My favorite part of modern gaming companies is that they can't even keep track of basic shit in their own fucking lore like that Necrons can travel FTL with pure speed or that the Eldrazi were a cosmic threat NOT just cosmic cleanup crew, which is why they were lured to fucking Zendikar in the first place.

>>95913991
That's not an alternate cost, it's a condition that checks whether you spent GW to cast the spell. You don't cast it for GW, you cast it for WBG.

>>95917242
Pro tour has always been a rich kid thing. The overwhelming majority of MTG players have always played kitchen table magic and always will.

Joke's on you, i don't even play kitchen table, i just fill up my binders, build decks and play against myself.

>>95917261
I'm sorry, what purpose did you THINK capitalism served? Capitlism is just the enforcement of the will of dynastic families on the planet. They don't care what rules are involved and if the rules stop favoring them for even a second, they just change them (Robinhood scandal). Money is just an illusion. Always was.

>>95917298
This post deleted 30 bots from the network.

>>95917364
Because they're loud and the CIA has power. It has nothing to do with the customers, but then nothing in capitalism does anymore. They've dropped the mask and now it's all about enforcing the will of the rich pedophiles and assorted sexual deviants on everyone else.

>>95916788
>>95916799
>>95916811

My people have fallen...

>>95917395
I don't think that's true either. I think it's just a bald faced lie to mollify investor sentiment.

>>95917782
>regularly shits on WotC for ruining every format
>still uses tribal
>Siege Rhino enjoyer
Get past the 5 second youtuber intro and you'll realize Seth is /ourguy/

>>95917885
That contradicts the point that western opinions dont matter then. They do matter thats why you have women and trannies shitting their pants about sexy women

>>95917472
What do you think I was referencing. Your pick is MY argument, not yours, retard.