Thread 95933939

so any FANTASY games that take place on irl earth? and no I don't want warhammer slop or tolkein slop I want some good middle fantasy that isn't dnd or osr shit

timeline can be actual medieval or early modern nothing victorian and above

>>95933939 (OP)
definitionally, fantasy means another world
so it is no longer fantasy if its on our earth, it would be some form of urban fantasy

but there are some urban fantasy games such as delta green/call of cthulhu and vampire: the masquerade/requiem that take place in 20th century earth with the world outside your window
and superhero systems like marvel and MnM that could take place in new york or [insert your favorite city here] if you want it to

>>95933961
ok what about alternative history fantasy?

Well, aren't you a hard to please, picky and pernickety little faggot.
Make your own game.

>>95933961
>definitionally, fantasy means another world

Nope

>Low fantasy, or intrusion fantasy, is a subgenre of fantasy fiction in which magical events intrude on an otherwise normal world. The term thus contrasts with high fantasy stories, which take place in fictional worlds that have their own sets of rules and physical laws.

>>95933939 (OP)
Savage World of Solomon Kane?

>>95933939 (OP)
Conan

>>95933995
noo

>>95933939 (OP)
In the shannara books we nuked each others to the stone age and magic came back

>>95933939 (OP)
Tolkien. Middle-earth is meant to be Europe but thousands of years ago.

>>95933983
fantasy, without any modifiers, is about someone from our world in another world
low fantasy and portal fantasy are just different ways to name it
alice in wonderland was just called fantasy when it came out, after all
high fantasy is when there is another world but without any mention of our world
in either case, it takes place in a secondary world entirely

urban fantasy is the name for when the secondary co-exists with our world,. such as in harry potter or for a TG example, the aforementioned vampire the masquerade
which is not what OP is asking for either, since they apparently want historical fiction in RPG form

>>95933939 (OP)
...does world of darkness count as a fantasy?

>>95934027
schizo af

>>95934034
>>95934027
only on a technicality, since the lord of the rings being an ancient translated text from tens of thousands of years before history is just a framing device

the actual story never intersects with our world in any meaningful way
which is why LOTR is seen as the birth of high fantasy, where all the action takes place in the constructed world of middle-earth

>>95934029
>the autist enters seeing labels that exist only in his head being misused and gets upset
always funny to see

>>95933939 (OP)
Pendragon.

>>95934046
>fantasy: from our world to the secondary world
>high fantasy: secondary world only
this is how it has been classified for ages and its never been argued over except for what low fantasy means
but we go by the originals here, which is that low and portal fantasy are just different names for fantasy: both our world and the secondary world are involved

>>95934067
>anything not human is le bad the game

no fuck off

>>95934034
That is quite literally the framing narrative for The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: Tolkien stumbles upon a surviving copy of the Red Book of Westmarch (containing Elven legends, Bilbo's memoirs, Frodo’s and the rest of the Fellowship’s recountings of the War of the Ring, etc.), translates the materials from it, and releases them as The Silmarillion, The Hobbit, and The Lord of the Rings.

>>95933961
>definitionally, fantasy means another world
Source: OP's ass

>>95933939 (OP)
Game Idk, but Attack on Titan takes place in an upside down Earth. If there is any ttrpg of AoT I guess that qualifies

>>95933939 (OP)
Most fantasy games can be set in the real world. Just buy an atlas. Pendragon and Ars Magica spring to mind as games that are explicitly designed for a fantastic version of the real world though.
>>95933961
>definitionally, fantasy means another world
This isn't true at all.

>>95933939 (OP)
Shadowrun

>>95933939 (OP)
Some Savage Worlds settings do, but you'd need to be more precise with "fantasy on irl earth" since stuff like real world + monsters and some magic is fantasy (this could be Weird Wars settings, like WWI or Rome), or supernatural horror (like East Texas University or Pinebox Middle School).
Plus there are "alternate irl earth" settings where many things change while others remain familiar, like Deadlands. Or Aetas Corinthia.

>>95934085
>wow are you REALLY killing those beasts that literally came from hell?

>>95934577
sorry i just dont want to be killing anything non human all the time cuz of the "muh white man burden" trope and I don't want hell vs humans bs to be the main point of the game

>>95934487
i said medieval or early modern and that's it
also I tried shadowdark before wasn't my thing really let alone cyberpunk stuff

>>95933995
>Iranistan
Lmao who comes up with this shit

>>95933983
>The term thus contrasts with high fantasy stories, which take place in fictional worlds
It's a trusim that all fantasy stories take place on fictional worlds. Any world in which a fantasy story takes place is necessarily a fictional world because fantastic things can't happen in the real world.

>>95934029
>high fantasy is when there is another world but without any mention of our world
Tolkien's Middle-Earth stores are high fantasy and take place on a fictional version of our world Earth which he does mention.

>>95934808
You've gotta understand that new-wave and theosophic elements influences on Howard. I don't think he bought into any of that stuff, but names like "Nord" and "Hyperborea" were absolutely playing into it. The other way to translate the word "Iran" into English is "Aryan." -stan means "land of." The name literally means: "Land of the Aryans." When you put it onto that map besides places like Hyrkania, Aquilonia, Hyperborea and Nordheim, it's exactly in-line with the rest of them.

But I agree with you that the pseudo-archeological "ancient" civilizations Howard was using are pretty stupid.

>>95934880
All fiction takes place on fictional worlds, dipshit. That's the difference between fiction and non-fiction.

>>95934337
That's not the OP

>>95933939 (OP)
Pendragon

>>95934917
In no moment I implied he was

>>95933939 (OP)
There's surely a bunch of shit from Savage Worlds, given the abundance of fan material out there (For King & Country comes to mind, but more Napoleonic sci-fi spy thriller than anything). Although, in official material, there's Weird Wars Rome or the Spirits of 1776 microsetting (this one came packaged in a bundle of four back when SWADE first released).

Outside conventional historical fantasy (falling INTO OSR shit), there IS a Dying Earth splatbook for DCC... I mean, there IS magic (in a sense, it's SCIENCE fantasy...) & IS Earth, just in the farthest far future!

Although, if you REALLY wanted to, you could just spend some time on GIMP & adjust the Warhammer Fantasy worldmap so it's set on Earth (definitely crossed my mind many a time, given my 'Earth only' policy (for my own personal amusement more than anything substantial, I just REALLY like setting things on Earth)).

>>95934029
>fantasy, without any modifiers, is about someone from our world in another world

No anon the default fantasy setting is not an isekai

>>95937010
That anon is wrong, but that's not the reason.

Classical fantasy stories generally do revolve around someone wandering into a magical world. Narnia, Harry Potter, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, Alice in Wonderland, the Wizard of Oz, et cetera. That is, classically, the start of most fantasy stories.

But the bigger point that the anon you're responding to fails to understand is that these definitions are DEscriptive, not PROscriptive. There is no Authority For Genre Fidelity who writes a ticket if your novel doesn't check XYZ boxes on the holy list of definitions. Genres, at their very best, are analytical tools useful in understanding how specific works of art or music or literature stand out from the tradition they're participating in. They aren't rules that "this must follow or it doesn't count as fantasy." And they aren't rules about what authors are and aren't allowed to write. They're models that we use to example, understand and interpret art.

>>95937073
>example, understand and interpret art.
I meant "Examine."

>>95933939 (OP)
Witch Hunter: The Invisible World.

>>95936883
REDACTION:
The SWADE minisetting is actually titled 'Spirit of 1786', my bad.

Along with the splatpbook, DCC Dying Earth includes a whole series of adventures, the full collection being comprised of 9 total, worth a gander.

>>95934880
Oh, so you're just a pendant with nothing to actually add to the conversation? Right on.

Ars Magica takes place in 13th century Europe. It's all about wizards doing crazy shit.

>>95933939 (OP)
I unironically would like a High fantasy setting layered over IRL history,
However whenever something like this happens it’s always either mudcore, just a straight up historical system or a gothic horror one.
I’d just like a straight up classic high fantasy version of earth with elves and dwarves and ogres and whatever else bullshit
I’m not even saying that it’d have to be a particularly deep analysis of medieval Europe either

>>95941711
It's a little later, but Castle Falkenstien is pretty much that.

>>95933939 (OP)
Pendragon, easily

>>95941711
Shadowrun if you can handle cyberpunk, Earthdawn if you are allergic to that.

>>95933939 (OP)
Ars Magica or Dragon Conquer America.
Ars Magica was already mentioned.
Dragon Conquer America is literally conquistadors on catholic dragons showing aztecs who is the boss.

>>95938567
[NTA] Pedant (dicknozzle) =/= PeNdant (neckwear)

>>95933939 (OP)
>dnd
Greyhawk takes place on Earth but a parallel world (Yarth) where magic existed

>>95933939 (OP)
How about Pendragon? Its Arthurian.

>>95933939 (OP)
I play in My homebrew world which, after deciding I was too lazy to make My own world map, takes place on a planet geographically identical to Earth but with a ton of changes here and there for the sake of the game. I run PF2e.

If you can't find a specific system, I don't see why you can't just boot up some generic fantasy system and say "This takes place in medieval Europe as we know it"

>>95935010
You clearly stated >>95934337's usage of fantasy was the OP's definition. The OP didn't say that at all. If you don't see it, take captcha's advice. You're too stupid to exist.

>>95933939 (OP)
Ars magica

7th sea

>>95933939 (OP)
>so any FANTASY games that take place on irl earth?
Pendragon and any other Arthurian fantasy game is your best bet. There's not exactly strong demand for real-world fantasy settings that don't go off into something like Weird West/alternate history WW2/steampunk shit that your post is excluding, or that aren't modern or urban fantasy settings either with a "secret world" Masquerade aspect like WoD/Buffy/Dresden Files, or straight up modern fantasy Shadowrun type stuff.

The kind of person who wants to only play in a real-world bronze age or medieval setting is also likely the kind of person who doesn't want to play with make believe fantasy elements, and even many pulp classics either take place in more modern times/some Hollow Earth or Savage Lands lost continent shit, or are set so far in the imaginary past it's functionally a different planet (like Conan being "technically" in the real world the same way Middle Earth is in LOTR)